40k-lore-chat

[rocky gale]

6 new detachments, 4 of them Space Marines. That checks out

[dapper gyro]

The eldar comes out of nowhere.

Send them away.

[vagrant fox]

Serpents brood you say? Wave Serpents confirmed

[rocky gale]

Oops all Wave Serpents

[arctic talon]

The weird thing is

Eldar already got a mechanized infantry/tank detachment

So I’m confused on wtf this shits gona be

[rocky gale]

This detachment is only Wave Serpents

[queen laurel]

Hey wolf are none clan house gangs a thing in necromunda

I'm not talking about like palanites, squats or chaos school this or something like that

I'm talking about like hives scum, gangers not affiliated with the houses with their own gangs

[storm jungle]

the gangs in Necromunda are basically what those are

Orlock, Goliath and Escher are all noble houses first (Goliath less so but lol)

the gangs you see on tabletop are basically their foot-troops in the underhive

[rocky gale]

He's talking about gangs that aren't affiliated with any of those houses

[arctic talon]

They have their own gangs but they’re not relevant

The clan house gangs are by and far the strongest

Followed by the other playable gangs

Ash waste nomads dominate the wastes

No shit

[dapper gyro]

They are the mafia, they need support from the top to be strong.

[arctic talon]

But the Enforcers cracking heads for Helmwar in the underhive aren’t the best and brightest of the enforcers

lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah That's what I mean I'm just talking about like very minor groups of like hives scum gangers that don't really have the control and power

[arctic talon]

Now granted that’s kind of subverted now that you can run companions

Regularly

But w/e

[arctic talon]

Yeah they exist

[dapper gyro]

Street gang

[arctic talon]

They usually get “integrated”

By the clan house gangs

Or killed

Competition is bad for business

Even if that business is slinging crack

[queen laurel]

Damn you really need the clan house's help if you want to succeed

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dapper gyro]

They are also the equipment suppliers.

[arctic talon]

Outcast and venator gangs are a thing

But they’re rare

It’s rare for one to be properly strong to not get snuffed out by a house gang

[near wasp]

My I'm ultra mad and my custodes shirt arrive today

[arctic talon]

Often they’re tied to an existing clan house to an extent as well

Either as plausibly deniable muscle

Or as additional bulk to crack some heads

[queen laurel]

So if I have to grit and will to survive I'm better off being a bounty hunter then joining some random minor gang

[arctic talon]

Yes

Being a hired gun is way better

Even if you’re some random shithead hired gun

The gangs and clan houses will love you

lol

You’re less of a coward, you fight for a paycheck, and you’re usually better then whatever juve they can give a stub pistol and a flak jacket

lol

[wary fulcrum]

Sort of

You have rebel lords, a criminal faction who’re disgraced or fallen nobles who’re trying to make their way back to the top

Ozostium himself is from a house that was ‘wiped out’ by a gene virus by one of the Helmawr’s, and the whole succession rebellion was thst House getting itself back on top

[dapper gyro]

What is even bellow a pistol, sling shot?

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah I forgot about them

lol

[arctic talon]

A shiv

[queen laurel]

Hive Scum can be found everywhere, often hired by more established gangs looking for cheap bodies, or arranged into fully fledged Underhive Outcasts gangs that clash with the legendary Houses of Necromunda for territory, scraps of loot, and more.

This was in the store yeah I'm just like

It's genuinely better try my luck as a random bounty hunter huh

[arctic talon]

And just shiv

lol

The irony is you can’t make juves and gangers as shit as munda 1e

[wary fulcrum]

Assuming you can get the licence to be a bounty hunter

[arctic talon]

Yeah that also

[queen laurel]

Ehh this is necromunda May as well die trying

[dapper gyro]

Necromunda is a recruitment ground for the IF, yet IF is more level headed compare to most chapters.

[wary fulcrum]

You say that, they literally nicknamed a dude ‘I Am Slaughter’

(Okay, Slaughter, but still)

[dapper gyro]

It is very tame, lol.

[storm jungle]

Thats what psycho-indoctrination is for

[arctic talon]

Guh

[dapper gyro]

Meanwhile, some chapters do the reverse to get more aggressive troops...

[wet sandal]

Marine neophytes basically get a zip-bomb to their brain

[vagrant fox]

post excerpt of that one space wolf recruit shooting himself in the face

[wet sandal]

And the zip bomb is full of propaganda

[arctic talon]

I got sent a fast food culinary abomination

So all of you must see it now as well

[wet sandal]

https://youtu.be/31JNEVHZxO8

It's real

I can't believe it

The prophecy

It's coming true

[arctic talon]

It’s got truffle in it

Lmao

Which is deranged

[queen laurel]

Honestly if I got this for free I wouldn't complain and eat it

[arctic talon]

Honestly yeah but it’s 1000NTD

[cinder pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628097885749116939/1446506128107110441/image-4.png?ex=69343b4f&is=6932e9cf&hm=1c087c4dc7091212586286f20bded3a110884166a69d3ce49cfd7163263e4d3f

[arctic talon]

Which is

30$ USD lol

[vagrant fox]

https://vxtwitter.com/0thernet/status/1982473405300388143?t=7Nb25FVIvIqgArEsSQQqNw&s=19

ben (zo.computer) (@0thernet)

ancestors need you to lock in son

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 26, 2025, 3:44 PM

@ taiwan

probably

[arctic talon]

lol

[vagrant fox]

wasn't there one recently which was shaped like a turtle

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Lmao

It was a desert pizza

lol

[queen laurel]

Tell me when this appears in the commercials

[vagrant fox]

does pizza just get weirder the further away from italy you are

[languid meadow]

the beef between norway and italy over pizza is hilarious

also italy and korea

italians are just annoying it seems

[arctic talon]

Unironically it’s because they don’t care, they just do what tastes good

[near wasp]

I heard Balkan pizza is an abomination

[arctic talon]

Who gives a shit if it’s gluttonous or weird

The turtle pizza was basically just a pastry dish sold by a pizza restaurant lol

Which is Pizza Hut

Ultimately it also gets attention domestically

If it’s something absurd

[vagrant fox]

about food yes
Could be worse, they could be Norwegians

[arctic talon]

If it gets noticed by people outside the country oh well

[near wasp]

Bro Italians are so stuck up about there food

[arctic talon]

lol

[arctic talon]

I don’t get it tbh

It’s not like they’re the only culture who’s food gets chopped up and reshaped

It happens to everyone lol

[languid meadow]

I fucking love how nations piss them off

Italy was made that a reindeer meatlovers pizza won the international pizza contest

[vagrant fox]

If it's not exactly how it was done in their tiny region and more especially how their mother did it, you're doing it completely wrong and it's trash

[languid meadow]

so the people who made it made another reindeer pizza and named it after the I think the foreign affairs minister of italy

he was pissed

[vagrant fox]

Still, some of the abominations I've seen from Brazil are mildly puzzling, I'm pretty sure a bunch of them are just jokes though

[arctic talon]

LOL

Dominos in Taiwan made a boba pizza

lol

[languid meadow]

when Italians were racist against a Korean sports player they made a pizza mocking them

[arctic talon]

💀

Crazy

[dapper gyro]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735941248036241489/1446574296318349415/IMG_20251205_134730_869.jpg?ex=69347acc&is=6933294c&hm=1e6d6c079384bc29bc3509162a168bd6de856d2ac187d241c7b3b3d75cdb5d40&=&format=webp&width=648&height=864 Retook the picture of my mini with better lighting.

[near wasp]

That lowkey sound bomb af

[languid meadow]

it was finland hold on

[arctic talon]

Anyways all I’m saying is the US’s fast food game isn’t degenerate or tasty enough for how expensive it is

[languid meadow]

https://www.atlasobscura.com/foods/reindeer-pizza-berlusconi-finland

[arctic talon]

Compared to Taiwan

This shit is funny

[vagrant fox]

Oh Berlusconi, he had it coming

[arctic talon]

Honestly that looks normal

[vagrant fox]

Thinking about it, I haven't seen anything particularly weird for Japanese fastfood. Maybe I haven't looked enough

[dapper gyro]

That makes pineapple pizza look normal...

(Which it is btw)

[languid meadow]

I was about to say

[arctic talon]

They have more sane stuff then Taiwan and China generally but they also get weird stuff

Taiwan’s American fast food chains basically always have some weird seasonal shit lol

[dapper gyro]

From south to east of asia, street foods are colourful.

[urban spire]

i know that it's satire, i GET that it's satire, but the loading screen quotes get really grating

like "never forget; forgive nothing"

i've spoken with the kinda dude who thinks thats alpha or sigma or whatever and who would unironically hang that over the fireplace

[celest cedar]

https://miguel_iglesias.artstation.com/projects/989G9W

hive scum arts

[storm jungle]

theres literally over 1000 of them so yeah thats kinda the point

[urban spire]

kinda a problem i have with satire in general

[storm jungle]

i think theres some really "oof" ones in the ship as well, the one i never forgot was:

"Beware the heretic's words. Equality, justice, tolerance. These are the seeds of damnation"

Its very apt

[urban spire]

[storm jungle]

Also if you arent this blunt people shrug it off

[urban spire]

they like it anyway though

they don't think it's making fun of them, they love it!

[storm jungle]

Still better than making it way too subtle

it pisses most of them off

its like how the recent helldivers 2 major order literally references the super-prison CECOT in argentina

and also has you go on a event to build a supermax concentration camp that will house 15 million "dissidents"

[urban spire]

hd2 is especially funny because the chuds are like "hey this one makes fun of the left! it's for us!"

[storm jungle]

[urban spire]

and by funny i mean it makes me want to pull out every hair on my body one at a time with tweezers

[celest cedar]

imperium is good

[storm jungle]

[languid meadow]

Neferata might come out before the end times dlc as her own thing but she still might be only shoved into end times

[dapper gyro]

Just do a Brazilian without anaesthetic agent.

[urban spire]

well real talk i just plan on getting most of my shit lasered off

but that's unrelated to my feelings of frustration and despair

[surreal nest]

It can definitely be empowering chuds but theres really nothing we can do about it tbh. Those same people would watch the Andor series and cheer on the empire for the groping scene. Valid annoyance with the quotes though

Obnoxious hearing those dumbass quotes outside of 40k when you try to like discuss the fiction or some shit.

[urban spire]

yeah but also like

[dapper gyro]

Less maintenance in long term, so actually the opposite of frustration and despair, I guess?

[urban spire]

"hey that mission failed in a bad way, anyway to cheer you up here's some of the pithy shit nazis say to boost themselves"

[storm jungle]

I mean

the quotes are so ridiculous that you'd need to be kinda silly to take them seriously

[celest cedar]

ig it makes sense and empowering for an in universe imperial 💀

[surreal nest]

Oh well the game is definitely making fun of you for being a dreg of society and an acyolote for the inquisition, it doesnt want to make you feel great about it

[urban spire]

and they all have black templar pfps

[storm jungle]

[celest cedar]

reminds me

[urban spire]

i don't actually mind everyone on the morningstar treating you like shit, i think it's fun

[celest cedar]

Empire in the most boring way where everyone are evil 😭

[dapper gyro]

Also, this is actually one of my mantra to myself, to get better after every mistake. Not to apply to other people.

[west pendant]

Andor actually shows the empire with more nuance than any other star wars movie or show

the fuck he smoking

[storm jungle]

Andor is the greatest star wars media we'll ever get

[urban spire]

ah, i mean that's fair, remember to forgive yourself too though

[spring cairn]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/14095137500640167007/FB2F7864D33824A4EFEFE275E41BD555CBA21E8A/

[arctic talon]

It literally doesn’t though 💀

wtf lol

[dapper gyro]

😇 Absolutely!

[celest cedar]

he lets himself go alright

Anarchist knows whats up

[rocky gale]

Andor gives us the most insightful and nuanced exploration of the Empire and dude thinks "wow they dumbed it down"

[spring cairn]

@languid meadow do u still want a good teammate 4 auric ?

[spring cairn]

i love anarchist

[west pendant]

Its interesting because dude doesnt realize that andor is not about wonder and escapism

[spring cairn]

my goat

[urban spire]

empire (lowercase e) is always like that, petty and vile

[celest cedar]

mfs will see Syril Karn and thought this guy is just evil like nah

[arctic talon]

Andor shows how soul crushing being part of the empire is

lol

[west pendant]

ive only seen season 1 tbh

[urban spire]

i fell off mid season 2, but not for any good reason, i just did

[west pendant]

yeah sometimes even good shows lose me completely

because other stuff grabs my attention

[urban spire]

wanted to play videogames

[storm jungle]

If you dont watch S2 you are missing out tons

its genuinely peak

[west pendant]

do they have darth vader?

if not I wont watch

[urban spire]

i'll get around to it, there's literally a sticky note on my desk about it

[storm jungle]

fuck no lol

it literally has zero wider star wars media

[arctic talon]

No

[arctic talon]

It does

[urban spire]

in cipher because i'm a tacky bitch

[storm jungle]

oh my god shut up

[rocky gale]

Darth Vader would ruin it

[storm jungle]

lmao

[sacred ginkgo]

Not until Rogue One

[arctic talon]

It has a lot of background gulp shitto stuff

LOL

That’s why it’s funny

[storm jungle]

yeah

[celest cedar]

the original plan was it would go for 5 seasons. Covering 1 year each. But due to how costly production and post was. The producers just opted to condense everything into 1 season in S2

[storm jungle]

aka nothing major

stfu

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

im glad its 2 Seasons

makes it extremely impactful and digestible

[west pendant]

oh so its over?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

way back yeah

[arctic talon]

It’s over

Its ending is great

Imo

[celest cedar]

some character stories is impacted unfortunately. Like Bix

[rocky gale]

I'm not, we need to invent dimensional travel to escape to the reality where it got 5 seasons

[west pendant]

have u guys seen acolyte?

[storm jungle]

S2 literally ends JUST as Cassian is going to meet the contact he kills in the opening of Rogue One

its legit seamless

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/k2so-slap-star-wars-andor-k-2so-k2-smack-gif-10833212823460207992

[celest cedar]

the edit from Andor to Rogue One is so seamless

[urban spire]

i saw part of the acolyte, but i was watching it as eps came out and that's poison to the adhd brain unless literally everyone is talkin about it

[wintry cloud]

I need work to end now

[urban spire]

so at some point i just forgor

[storm jungle]

yeah the director said himself he paid REALLY close attention to make sure everything matched with the precursor bits of the movie

[languid meadow]

Are you available?

[storm jungle]

watcihng the movie after the show is also incredible

legit changes your entire view on it

Cass becomes like the main protagonist lmao

[rocky gale]

Apparently his son is also a massive nerd and would call him out on missing stuff

[celest cedar]

rogue one and a new hope becomes even more impactful

[west pendant]

its so interesting, because back when they announced andor no one gave a fuck about it

[arctic talon]

Is his son and prop department why there’s glup shitto stuff lmao

It’s always in the background lol

[spring cairn]

yes i'm done helping my college friend

[rocky gale]

Like it was his sons idea to have the hotel clerk say ||"Rebellions are built on hope"|| to reinforce the narrative of him carrying the message

[languid meadow]

Alright give myr a sec

[arctic talon]

I like Cassians sniper pistol thing

[sacred ginkgo]

Isn't Who Are You the highest rated piece of starwars media like
Ever

[storm jungle]

The most hilarious bit is out of EVERY star wars show we got with major characters ala Mandalorian, Obi Wan, Luke, Ezra, Ahsoka etc; its the one with THE MOSTfootnote character that ended up making the biggest mark ever in the history of Star Wars as a verse and everyone loved the shit out of it.

I dont think anything more ironic than this can ever happen lmao

before this nobody gave a shit who Cassian Andor was

now hes probably a bigger figure to some people than Luke Skywalker lmao

[celest cedar]

those shows are mid xd

[storm jungle]

deserved tbh

[storm jungle]

Yeah them being so mediocre helped Andor a lot i think, beacuse it did what all these shows were so afraid to do

zero punches pulld

[celest cedar]

yeaa

[rocky gale]

Because they had to make us care, with the others they thought they could ride on the coattails of the characters fame

[arctic talon]

Huffing space gasoline is canon

https://youtu.be/x0hXnZ42eJ0?si=dmq9N9lPzVro94zB

[celest cedar]

glad they didnt try to circle around the SA scene or use another word for it during Ep3

[rocky gale]

Always has been

[celest cedar]

call it for what it is

[celest cedar]

Saw's speech AKA how a kid gets radicalized

[wintry cloud]

Suffering from success

[celest cedar]

if only we get a full season of Wilmon being a rebel alongside Saw's group

[storm jungle]

it legit reminded me of 40k fans

"GUILLIMAN WOULDNT ALLOW THIS"

[arctic talon]

Yeah he would

lol

He literally wouldn’t care

[urban spire]

it's weird that they skipped dawn of war 3

and went straight to 4

[languid meadow]

I do think vader would stop it IF it happened near him but he doesn't care to stop it throughout the empires ranks so it means nothing

[rocky gale]

Reminds me of Booster Blue, from the Star Wars FFG game, it was basically starship paint, but it was also a drug that pilots would huff for increased reaction times.

[languid meadow]

You can't just react to that and not say anything

[celest cedar]

vader wouldnt tolerate this...

[arctic talon]

Alright do yall think Mon Mothma’s driver was gona go traitor to the empire

[urban spire]

vader's always looking for excuses to murder his own officers

[arctic talon]

Bcs I think he was

lol

[celest cedar]

he kills children simply cuz their jedi in training

[storm jungle]

I CANNOT believe space nazis would act like nazis

[celest cedar]

yes

[languid meadow]

Like he doesn't care it happens through out the empire like clearly he kills kids lmfao

[arctic talon]

He did get shot anyways

But I think he has a change of heart

Too bad it was too late

lol

[languid meadow]

seemed like it but it doesn't matter

wrong place wrong time

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

womp womp

he would've been purged with the rest of the ISB involved

[urban spire]

should i be reading this

[storm jungle]

Make the Galaxy Great Again™

[daring creek]

Have there ever been cases of traitor space marines being in/infiltrating loyalists chapters

[storm jungle]

Only alpha legion does that

[daring creek]

We need to build a wall

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-emperor-sheev-palpatine-gif-15621128

at least palpatine has swag to go with his rot

[urban spire]

only sith do that

[languid meadow]

the comically evil red cloak

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-mon-mothma-andor-let's-dance-raise-your-hands-gif-10292341550172352518

[storm jungle]

wrong IP

[celest cedar]

THIS WAS PEAK DANCE SCENE

[storm jungle]

me when i gotta do anything in life

[rocky gale]

Once in a game of Star Wars FFG, I was playing an Imp pilot who was addicted to Booster Blue, good times

[daring creek]

Same thing

[urban spire]

star wars and 40k are basically exactly the same

[arctic talon]

Getting wasted after basically selling off your daughter 💀

[urban spire]

40k even has light sabres like

[arctic talon]

It’s peak

[celest cedar]

the editing where it shifts constantly to Mina Rau just helps making it feel even more relatable

she's having conflicting thoughts and emotions throughout 💀

[storm jungle]

bro

the moment Moth's friend was like

"Ermmm I dont feel like im treated specially"

i was like

[rocky gale]

She got high and started practising pistol tricks like revolver ocelot in the cockpit while traveling in Hyperspace and accidentally shot the controls

[storm jungle]

Nah hes gotta go

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Oh my god lol, I love that

[storm jungle]

I watched too many Rannick clips

[arctic talon]

He was cooked the moment he said that shit

lol

[storm jungle]

İKR

and tbh it was fair

no loose ends

[arctic talon]

Yeeeeep

[celest cedar]

he doesnt got what it takes to sacrifice 😔

[arctic talon]

Mon having an awful day

Lol

[languid meadow]

I LOVE WHEN THE REBELS HAVE SHADES OF GREY YEAHHHHH

[urban spire]

mon kinda rubs me the wrong way idk

[celest cedar]

like bruh the final shot

[arctic talon]

First she basically sells her daughter off into an awful marriage

[languid meadow]

outside of Saw it wasn't shown much

[arctic talon]

Then she gets her friend killed

lol

[celest cedar]

where Tay looks all smug while Cinta

[languid meadow]

the main rebel alliance was always perfectly nice

[celest cedar]

is just preparing to assassinate him

[storm jungle]

Mfer shouldnt have been a snitch

[arctic talon]

Tbf that’s why it’s an “alliance”

They’re trying to act like a conventional military force

Anyways I’ve seen enough

Go my rebel bomb cars

[urban spire]

white lady with family money like what was her family doing in the 1860s

[storm jungle]

i think Rogue One was literally the first time ever we actually were shown the rebels are actually not all "good guys"

lol

because like

i remember people beign SHOCKED when Andor killed his fucking contact

they were like

[arctic talon]

Aside from books yeah

lol

[storm jungle]

"WAIT HES A GOOD GUY, HE CANT DO THAT"

[celest cedar]

I think its because of her privilege position that I still thinks shes a heroic person

[arctic talon]

Star Wars legions letting you make rebel bomb cars

Is the funniest shit ever

[celest cedar]

she couldve stayed rich and comfy like Perrin

but chooses to rebel anyways in the best ways she can

[arctic talon]

Yeah Mon chose to throw herself over the coals

Tbh

Which is respectable

[storm jungle]

Sacrificing it all and namedropping the true name of the entire galaxy's dictator in a public speech

the fact that she outright said Palpatine's name was a "oh fuck" moment

[urban spire]

that was a joke

[celest cedar]

like her and Luthen constantly funds multiple rebel cells throughout the like 15-20 years they were rebelling in secret

even cells like the maya pei brigade 💀

[storm jungle]

Yeah the reality is you need wealthy people for this shit too

it cant all be just homeless people

lmao

or well terrorists

[arctic talon]

Well

you can be

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

its a lot fucking harder

irl insurgancies can work without a wealthy backer

[storm jungle]

shut up castro I DONT REMEMBER ASKING

[arctic talon]

smh

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-here-pentagon-cod-call-of-duty-call-of-duty-zombies-gif-2970673749876402182

[urban spire]

eh, the critical mass of ornery homeless people is arguably the more important factor

[arctic talon]

tbh

[storm jungle]

Money is money

[arctic talon]

giving the homeless people military grade equipment

[storm jungle]

and we are talking planetary-wide stuff

[arctic talon]

is a huge step up

lol

[storm jungle]

not a small island nation

[storm jungle]

Bay of Pigs.......

[arctic talon]

All I'm saying

is the rebellion would not have rocket launchers and star fighters

without Mon and other

wealthy people

lol

Well maybe the rocket launchers

[storm jungle]

woke propaganda

[celest cedar]

aldhani heist also funded a lot of the rebel equipment

[storm jungle]

also that yeah

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

it was some real greaseball Payday 2 shit

[arctic talon]

it also was meant to incite crackdowns

lol

[languid meadow]

glory to stealing

[arctic talon]

Luthen "GOAT" Rael

[celest cedar]

Luthen is a cold mf

[arctic talon]

He's great

[celest cedar]

he's willing to sacrifice entire worlds just so people get angry and rebel

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

[celest cedar]

cold calculating leader shi

[arctic talon]

he's playing the numbers game

few billion dead is worth it for him

if it means bringing the whole house down

[storm jungle]

let my man Luthen cook

[urban spire]

don't think that's such an admirable trait

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/stellan-stellan-skarsgard-skarsgard-andor-cassian-andor-gif-26948086

[urban spire]

that type of dude is how you get the paris commune

[celest cedar]

yea he's pretty self aware

[arctic talon]

it is for an insurgency and he knows he's a horrid piece of shit

[celest cedar]

that he has no place after the empire is gone

[storm jungle]

its better than living your life on your knees tbh

[arctic talon]

Luthen does literally say he's an awful person

lol

[rocky gale]

I mourn a lot of the little details we missed because of the seasons being cut down, ||like it was supposed to be revealed that Mon's husband knew all along and was basically deliberately acting an idiot while helping in ways that Mon and Luthen didn't know about, while regularly being interrogated by ISB and never revealing anything aside from their petty maritial grievances with each other and that Davo Sculdun was going to become the head of the largest media conglomeration in the galaxy and it would have been him which kept the cameras rolling during Mon's speech||

[arctic talon]

he knows it, his "friends" know it

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-andor-luthen-everything-luthen-rael-stellan-skarsgård-gif-16801805593089156375

I BURNED MY LIFE FOR A SUNRISE I NEVER SEE

[storm jungle]

WHAT

[arctic talon]

I'm sad we missed this now

[rocky gale]

Yea those were all plotlines from the 5 season plan

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Dude there was people attributing/adding that shit to people like the Emperor and Primarchs when that episode came out lmfao

[arctic talon]

💀

lol

lmao

[storm jungle]

way to miss the point you fucking MCU fuckwads

Yeah sacrificing your life

and uhhhh

gazillions of others

lmfao

[arctic talon]

Star wars Legions letting me play the Rebels like an insurgancy is the funniest shit ever

I love IEDs

Empire players hate it

[celest cedar]

missing the context that the speech is about sacrificing happiness to fight against tyranny 💀

[storm jungle]

^

again, blame the authors

we get 1 rebellion faction and its controlled by generic evil space bugs

lol

[celest cedar]

a more grey rebel alliance is what I prefer

[arctic talon]

horus heresy books make the imperium look too good

lol

The Black Books make the Imperium look evil as shit

The black books are better

lol

[storm jungle]

Abnett doing all he can to make the Emperor a hero figure kills me man

[west pendant]

I love how in the obi-wan scene they HAD to show fucking Leia hiding under his coat, because the audience are ofc morons who cant figure anything out by themselves

[arctic talon]

like genuinely

the black books are such a better showcase

of the Imperium

during the Heresy lol

[storm jungle]

Kind of

[arctic talon]

I mean

is it not?

[storm jungle]

the black books are still very pro-imperium

[celest cedar]

also just Bix's PTSD plot point....episode constraints man 😔

[storm jungle]

i recently read the first few black books

[arctic talon]

yeah but its in universe PoV

so like

[storm jungle]

yeah but thats hard to remember

because like

they say that WAY

WAY

[arctic talon]

fair

[storm jungle]

at page 2

then you are at page 60

and its like completely forgotten

lmao

[arctic talon]

okay look

all I'm saying

is the first one saying the Imperium

killed more humans then xenos during the Crusade

is funny as shit

[storm jungle]

wait

[west pendant]

Is it possible for a space elf to get human citizenship on Terra?

[storm jungle]

where does it say that

[arctic talon]

or was it a later one

I forgot

[storm jungle]

fuck no

[arctic talon]

one of the black books mentions the Imperium killing way more humans then xenos

[storm jungle]

theres no "human citizenship"

[arctic talon]

no

[urban spire]

xenos can get sanctioned

[storm jungle]

you need to find that so i can add it to the lexi lol

[storm jungle]

not really

[arctic talon]

I need to

💀

[storm jungle]

its like being a 5th class citizen

[arctic talon]

but I also have an exam

[storm jungle]

aka literally a prop/slave

[arctic talon]

I'm procrastinating on

[storm jungle]

lol

[arctic talon]

lol

[urban spire]

yeah it's like a work permit where they hold on to your passport

[rocky gale]

Na, I'd get sanctioned and then get a promising position polishing the statues on Terra

[storm jungle]

Kinda

[wintry cloud]

They can get shot in the head

[celest cedar]

his and Saw's activities really get the now organised rebel alliance ashamed 💀

[arctic talon]

CIS and Republic players are the space marines of Star Wars Legions

not that its a bad thing

but its obvious that its like

way more fucking popular

lol

[west pendant]

Im just waiting for rogue trader to release all them damn dlcs so I can finally play the game

[urban spire]

CIS is popular?

[arctic talon]

people like Clone Troopers and Clankers™

yes

extremely

lol

[urban spire]

wild

[storm jungle]

wdym "popular"

its robots

[rocky gale]

Play the long game as an Eldar, polish statues for a couple thousand years and then eventually work my way to being the first xenos high lord of Terra

[storm jungle]

people fucking love robots

[celest cedar]

also just found out that one of Saw's rebels in Rogue One was a ghorman massacre survivor

[arctic talon]

CIS and Republic are more popular then the Rebellion and Empire

which is hilarious

[wintry cloud]

Whats CIS mean

[arctic talon]

Confedaracy of Indepedent systems

aka sepratists

[storm jungle]

^

[wintry cloud]

Is that the robot faction name for star wars?

[urban spire]

it means someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth

[storm jungle]

bruh

[wintry cloud]

LMAOO

[celest cedar]

I saw a thumbnail talking about the CIS

[arctic talon]

yeah its what all the battledroids are part of

lol

[west pendant]

CIS means you identify with your birth gender

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-cis-confeder-star-wars-clone-trooper-gif-26100258

[celest cedar]

and the text on the thumbnail says NO CIS ALLOWED 💀

I was so confused at first like wait

HUH

[zenith remnant]

It's a slur if you happen to be a moron who doesn't know their dick from a hand grenade

[wintry cloud]

Id already be banned dude

[arctic talon]

Rebels have a thing to get access to some CIS stuff

[storm jungle]

Saul definitely seems like a pro-CIS guy

[arctic talon]

which is funny

Rebels can steal shit

from every faction

but it also comes at a cost

[storm jungle]

Clankers ✋

[celest cedar]

oh yea Luthen is an accelerationist yea

[west pendant]

I want another big star wars rpg

like kotor

kotor was so good

[arctic talon]

Luthen is an accelerationist yeah

[celest cedar]

and Saw is a....insurgent?

[zenith remnant]

I want an Empire at War 2

[arctic talon]

Saw is a terrorist

lol

like

[celest cedar]

aah k

[arctic talon]

an actual terrorist

[urban spire]

living in the liberal future imagined by the far right, i accuse someone of being pro-cis and they are dragged away to the gulag without questioning

[arctic talon]

not just insurgency labled terrorism

like Saw will just

shoot like 500 civllians

[west pendant]

actually even a battlefront 3 would be cool

[arctic talon]

if it means he gets to kill 1 storm trooper

[celest cedar]

what about Andor someone said he's a separatist

[arctic talon]

Andor is an accelerationist by the end of his life

but not as much of one as Luthen

[west pendant]

accelerationist?

[arctic talon]

They want escalation

the empire cracks down harder

people get angrier

[west pendant]

anarchist then

right?

[urban spire]

accelerationists try to escalate conditions to the point where revolution happens, they can be okay or they can be fucked up

[arctic talon]

no

^

[storm jungle]

No

[urban spire]

NO

[storm jungle]

^

[rocky gale]

I liked Saw talking about how the alliance was doomed to fail due to each cell having a completely different set of beliefs

[urban spire]

angry anarchist noises

[west pendant]

if the empire makes the rules and you are against those rules

you are an anarchist tight?

[arctic talon]

that isn't anarchy

[celest cedar]

the Maya Pei Brigade would fit the anarchist types

[storm jungle]

thats REBELLION

🗣️

[arctic talon]

because the Rebel Alliance already has a plan in place

lol

Which is to restore the republic

[west pendant]

REBELLION AGAINST WAT

[celest cedar]

the empire

[storm jungle]

YOUR MOM

[urban spire]

no, anarchists are against ALL forms of hierarchy

[west pendant]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

REBEL YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL

[arctic talon]

they're called the "Alliance to Restore the Republic"

so like

Its pretty obvious what they want

on the tin

which is to restore the republic system

[west pendant]

FUCKING REBEL SCUM THEY SHOOULD LEARN TO OBEY THE RULES OF THE EMPIRE, IT IS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD, ITS CALLED TOUGH LOVE

[arctic talon]

even if they're mostly accelerationists

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-droid-roger-roger-bump-gif-2155536895475091112

[west pendant]

Think about it, tough times makes for tough people

if we all had good lives and no problems at all

[celest cedar]

uhm

[west pendant]

we would go complacent

[celest cedar]

Palpatine literalyl engineered the tough times

[west pendant]

we would lose ourselves in excess

[storm jungle]

never let this guy cook

[celest cedar]

because make the sith great again or somethin

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-star-wars-andor-quenching-thirst-cheers-salud-gif-26322633

[celest cedar]

thats the Empire xd

[west pendant]

go more and more unhinged, until in our pleasures we will give birth to a new state of being

[urban spire]

modern anarchists aren't very accelerationist generally, mostly concerned with praxis, if we just build anarchist structures inside pre-existing hierarchies like a parasitic wasp they'll eventually just croak on their own

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cassian-andor-i'm-a-tourist-gif-4828889562708003190

my favorite andor character: Justa Toorist

[west pendant]

my fav star wars character, Jeno Cyde

[urban spire]

sometimes revolution happens anyway though, that's also a thing anarchists do, like the zapatistas

[arctic talon]

Order is a good thing

smh

heiarchy good

[west pendant]

what happens if the rebellion grows more unhinged than the status quo

[urban spire]

order good, hierarchy bad an unjust, not of order, evilbad

[urban spire]

the paris commune

[arctic talon]

The last one

was uh

💀

[celest cedar]

what if battlefront 2 is still developed

and we get andor as a hero

[west pendant]

We will never

[rocky gale]

Wasn't Andor in Battlefront 1?

Jyn and Krennic were

[celest cedar]

noh its jyn and krennic only afaik

[arctic talon]

no

[west pendant]

I want battlefront 3 so hard

[arctic talon]

Andor would prolly be in a battlefront 3

lol

[celest cedar]

dedra as a villain...

[rocky gale]

....Somehow Dedra returned

[west pendant]

Palpatine is such a good villain

[urban spire]

he's fine

[celest cedar]

but he somehow returned 😔

[urban spire]

don't quote me out of context on that

wow i can't believe cinless said hitler was okay

LOOK

ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT HE KILLED HITLER

[west pendant]

If he was a better painter, a lot of tragedy could have been avoided

[arctic talon]

also the new Destiny Villain having the worlds worst case of mommy issues is hilarious.

Bros mom got revived as a guardian, she forgot everything and he's really angsty about that

[urban spire]

people who are good at things don't become nazis

[west pendant]

Destiny is the worst managed game ive ever seen

motherfuckers keep deleting campaigns

its like they dont want new players to join

[urban spire]

that's the truest thing you've said all evening

[celest cedar]

if only that english dude

didnt feel merciful that fateful day 😔

[urban spire]

if only the german communists had gotten their shit together

white communists and doing nothing until it's too late is a pretty iconic duo though

[rocky gale]

Reminds me, I need to watch that show about Mussolini, apparently it's pretty good.

[celest cedar]

Ive seen clips

[rocky gale]

Yea I've only seen one clip, but it seemed good

(nobody saw me edit the previous message 6 times until it fit my desired grammatical structure)

[languid meadow]

sisyphus

[rocky gale]

One must imagine Sisyphus having a little sweet treat

[urban spire]

please don't remind me of the dishwasher, the washing machine, the vacuum cleaner and the fourth thing

fuck i remembered the fourth thing, i have to clean the bathroom

[rocky gale]

It's simple, if you do less work, then you have less work to do

[opaque coyote]

There is one rule about politics

You can agree on 90% of the things from somebody on the same side

But that 10% will always be a deal killer

[urban spire]

communists won't stop purging the anarchists when they take power, it's a pretty significant deal breaker

[rocky gale]

The second rule is that capitalists and liberals will always sell their souls to fascists in order to undermine socialists

[urban spire]

https://youtu.be/aYUjvI79uGc

[daring creek]

Skibidi could come out at any moment

[plush mason]

venison is literally just better beef so ofc it would win

[near wasp]

A man after my own hearat

[rocky gale]

Who's putting beef on pizza

[plush mason]

plenty of people do, i dont like it personally but its not horrible

venison would be a vastly better option

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib25Xpx3a1w

Colm done cooked again

[near wasp]

You know what pepperonis are made from right

[rocky gale]

pork

[plush mason]

its both iirc

[rocky gale]

Get outta here

https://tenor.com/view/soprano-get-the-fuck-outta-here-get-out-gif-14394588

[surreal nest]

i didnt know people actually listened to stuff like this lol

[plush mason]

i love it when its done well

and Colm makes really good songs

[rocky gale]

Shame he can't sing

[surreal nest]

My favorite part of that kind of warhammer fan music is how interchangeable it is with white supremacist songs

[plush mason]

its a metal song so yeah that is sadly true

[near wasp]

Burning stars is lowkey my fav 40k song

[plush mason]

Miracleofsound is also one of my go to music channels

[near wasp]

Him and aviators

[plush mason]

yup

[near wasp]

His dark souls songs are so good

[sacred ginkgo]

Game themed songs with lyrics make me crumple into a ball

They're always so corny

[lament shoal]

My fav type warhammer fan songs are the lyric-less ones like this: https://youtu.be/36PMFbEpbw0?si=zOx8cfjn0633i7nj

[celest cedar]

eeeh its ok

[surreal nest]

god the most obnoxious reddit comment i've ever read was "technically the night lords could be seen as the real good guys in 40k from a utilitarian viewpoint"

Shut up bro! You are weird!

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/nabzzino-nabzz-nabz-nabbz-nabzino-gif-20585627

[valid needle]

I wouldn’t even say that shit

Crazy

Konrad Curze still did nothing wrong though.

[surreal nest]

why is this kinda fire

[crystal forum]

liberals try not to allow the rise of fascism challenge (impossible)

it is truly insane how many parallels to the modern political era you can make with century old history

[winter pine]

One of the best lessons I learned was there's really nothing new under the sun tbqh

[lament shoal]

@celest cedar

[tiny nova]

I am trying to come up with threats for my party's ace pilot, what is your (anyone's) favorite flyer vehicle(s) in 40k?

[crystal forum]

it's important to remember that it's not a literal cycle though, otherwise you fall into the dumb fascist mindset of how america is 1:1 to the roman republic or smth

[crystal forum]

most ork planes look great

very WW2

but cartoonish

[storm jungle]

they are MiGs so

[crystal forum]

their bombers are great

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

are they?

[storm jungle]

yeah

they got the turbine body

[crystal forum]

im just thinking of their aeronautica bombers

[storm jungle]

Oh nah yeah the bombers are WW2 styled

the fighters are the Migs

Like LITERALLY lmao

[crystal forum]

i guess they do have jet engines

[tiny nova]

Yeah the dakka jets

[storm jungle]

yeah dakka jets got square noses

[tiny nova]

My players have already bested the orks though

[storm jungle]

Chaos flyers.

[crystal forum]

this one is like a mix of pre WW2 russian design and cold war jet

it looks great

[lament shoal]

🥐

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

thats a death sentence

but hey plot armor is plot armor

[crystal forum]

klingon ship

[storm jungle]

no, croissant

🥐

[tiny nova]

They have smoke with some marines, so I was thinking of doing a Xiphon Interceptor

[storm jungle]

arent xiphons space marine planes?

[crystal forum]

i love how ork bombers could literally be guard planes if they didnt have all the greebles

[near wasp]

Only if your not a necron

[arctic talon]

I hate this fucking thing bruh

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

because of rules?

[tiny nova]

but right now the pilot is flying an Aquilla Landing Craft so idk if they could handle most things tbh

[storm jungle]

No you're dead if you are the one going against it lmao

[arctic talon]

Yes lol

[storm jungle]

its a landing craft

so you tell us

[crystal forum]

damn wolf you played aero?

[near wasp]

Oh yeah then totally

[arctic talon]

Also necron rules in aeronautica are goofy

lol

[tiny nova]

It's got an auto cannon fixed on the front

[arctic talon]

They’re like so fucking expensive points wise

So your list is tiny

However they also do literally everything well

Except for like

[storm jungle]

the problem with necron flyers is they are tough as fuck and it just needs 1 single gauss-shot and your plane is basically dunzo

[arctic talon]

Crew kills

lol

[crystal forum]

really sucks that they decided to make imperialis a HH game so all the aeronautica units are just trashed

[arctic talon]

Simply do not get hit

[lament shoal]

Croissant shortage

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Look

[crystal forum]

eldar mindset

[arctic talon]

All I’m saying is there’s a reason Orks and Eldar have the best matchup

Into Necrons

lol

[tiny nova]

And he's a psyker pilot so I let him roll foresight to dodge with the plane instead of using maneuverability

[arctic talon]

Orks as well tbh

Ork planes are fast and maneuverable

[crystal forum]

i love how many guns ork bommers have

[arctic talon]

But made of glass

[storm jungle]

I mean

it is basically junk

[arctic talon]

Eldar planes are fast and maneuverable and pretty durable

[storm jungle]

so checks out

[storm jungle]

they are basically modern fighters with an alien twist yeah

[crystal forum]

it's 80% jet engine and 20% scrap

[arctic talon]

Imperium planes are all fucking brick shithouses that turn like a brick

lol

[storm jungle]

realistically eldar fighters would stomp most enemy aircraft

but they dont because plot

[arctic talon]

But they’re like

[storm jungle]

lol

[arctic talon]

Comically fast

In straight lines only

[crystal forum]

what about tau

[storm jungle]

yeah uh

[storm jungle]

Kinda the same

[arctic talon]

Tau have some bricks

[storm jungle]

their planes are very advanced

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

but yeah that

[crystal forum]

i thought tau had like gunships

[arctic talon]

They do

But they also aren’t very aerodynamic often

[storm jungle]

they also got drone planes as well

which they never spam

[arctic talon]

Remoras

[storm jungle]

because again, plot

lol

[arctic talon]

Are disgusting

lol

[near wasp]

Nid flyers

[arctic talon]

Invisible drone plane

💀

It has missiles btw

lol

[storm jungle]

[winter pine]

Tau straight up Obama-maxxing on the drone usage

[arctic talon]

Fucking Hunter killer drone tau edition

https://tenor.com/view/nato-gif-26965518

[storm jungle]

People before the Ukraine war legit had no idea how OP drone warfare is

[crystal forum]

this thing is like a IL-2 had a baby with a mig-15

[storm jungle]

if 40k wasnt a tabletop setting tau would be railgun drone sniping most of their opposition

lmfao

[crystal forum]

i love tail gunners

[arctic talon]

But yeah Eldar are my favorite aeronautica faction

lol

They play how I like

In plane land

[winter pine]

Ork vehicles are my favorite

[storm jungle]

they also just look really neat

[crystal forum]

im not a big fan of ork land vehicles but i love their planes

[arctic talon]

Which is elitish, good guns, durable enough, and maneuverable and fast as hell

Ork planes are genuinely made of paper mache

lol

[near wasp]

Average day in cuba

[storm jungle]

I mean

again

[tiny nova]

I like how the imperium flyers look like, they are shit boxes that fly but I have a shitbox that I drive so it checks out, I think I am a big just a big lightning fan

[storm jungle]

literal junk

[arctic talon]

Do not ram with Ork planes

lol

[crystal forum]

average grocery getter in the american south

[arctic talon]

Unless you want the plane to die

In which that case yeah sure ram with it

lol

[winter pine]

I love the attitude of how you can kitbash dollar store Tonka Trucks into something Orky and the average 40k approves of it

[arctic talon]

Orks lose at the ramming game

To like

Every faction

Imperium, tau(some) and crons can ram effectively

[crystal forum]

wait there's ramming in 40k planes?

[arctic talon]

Yes

lol

[crystal forum]

god damn

[arctic talon]

Tau transports are their best ramming planes

lol

[crystal forum]

even the plane game plays like naval

[arctic talon]

Bcs they’re built like a fucking brick

[arctic talon]

It’s an actual plane game

Just with some 40kisms

[crystal forum]

WITH RAMMING

[arctic talon]

Like ramming

[crystal forum]

how different is the void game

[arctic talon]

Very

lol

[crystal forum]

i never saw that one

it should come back

[arctic talon]

Battlefleet gothic is a 2d plane

[tiny nova]

Reinforced wings to cut through the unfolded ork steel

[arctic talon]

Some Aeronautica missions deal with the Z axis heavily

Like transport or bombing ones

[crystal forum]

wait the void game is 2d but the plane one is 3d

the space game

[arctic talon]

Yes

Well

Battlefleet gothic was made in like

The 90’s

[tiny nova]

Yeah having to do a strafing run vs fighting into different altitude differences makes alot more of a difference for the gameplay

[arctic talon]

Aeronautics first edition was the early 2000’s

[crystal forum]

is the void gameplay in rogue trader similar to it

[arctic talon]

The ttrpg yes

The crpg no

[crystal forum]

the vimeo game

[arctic talon]

Not the Vimeo game

[tiny nova]

the crpg apes the ttrpg, but significantly simpler/changed

[crystal forum]

it's also insanely unfair on higher diff

[arctic talon]

The ttrpg for rogue trader had basically a replica of BFG

lol

[tiny nova]

Not exactly, theres alot more player agency in RT (FFG)

[crystal forum]

idk what these acronyms mean

[tiny nova]

Having the right crew can really swing things, having a command monster for boarding vs rolling crew rating

[crystal forum]

in the vimeo game?

[tiny nova]

nope

[arctic talon]

Fair

[tiny nova]

FFG stands for fantasy flight games, which is the company that made the ttrpg

[arctic talon]

FFG/TTRPG is the book

[crystal forum]

oh

well the vimeo game made me pull out my hair

[tiny nova]

Whats ur poison of choice for 40k ttrpgs these days @arctic talon ?

[urban spire]

put it back in

[crystal forum]

i cant

i ate it all

[arctic talon]

Dark heresy/Maledictum

[urban spire]

fuckin

[arctic talon]

Usually dark heresy

[urban spire]

don't DO THAT

you'll get a bezoar

[tiny nova]

2.0 I assume?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[winter pine]

I must be the one person who had no problem with void ship combat in Owlcat's Rogue Trader

[arctic talon]

Mostly 2.0

[crystal forum]

i need it for the ankh shield

[arctic talon]

With some stuff hacked in I like

Lol

[urban spire]

idk what that means

[crystal forum]

terraria

[urban spire]

that's fine

[tiny nova]

Are you aware of the project to merge all of the different projects? I've been running with that in a "Rogue Trader" game that uses DH2 as the core

[urban spire]

i can't even joke about hating terraria that games good

[crystal forum]

it is

[arctic talon]

I am, but currently I’m happy with DH2

[crystal forum]

what diff did you play it

because my problem with it is that you just cant do any battles unless you follow a very strict path of progression

because you're always outfucked but there's one battle that you have at least a possibility of winning

[arctic talon]

On the highest difficulty yeah

It’s that way

lol

[crystal forum]

i just played hard not even the hardest

spent hours just trying to finish any battle until realizing it's literally impossible

a tactical game should never have a straight up brick wall with no indication that it's unpassable

[tiny nova]

The one thing I don't like about the system is that there are a strict number of space battles in the game so you can't improve/come back later as easy

[winter pine]

I forget what difficult I played on with my totally legit release copy before I bought it on Steam

[near wasp]

You played it at a friend's house

[winter pine]

yeah

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[winter pine]

Lmao

[tiny nova]

I prefer "borrowed it"

[winter pine]

My friend on the Iron Warriors homeworld let me play it

[near wasp]

My group is doing a playthrough now with our main trader being a gambling psyker with a pension for fire

[arctic talon]

I am known as the "other systems person" in my play group

[crystal forum]

does the psyker have clairvoyance

[arctic talon]

bcs I am the only one who doesn't play primarily pathfinder 2e

lol

[crystal forum]

for gambling memes

[arctic talon]

or delta green

[crystal forum]

like playing fallout NV with max luck and going to a casino

[near wasp]

Uhhh idk I'll tell him to get it

[tiny nova]

I hope owlcat never touches pf2e

[arctic talon]

I actually like it mechanically

lol

[winter pine]

This always felt like cheating to me lmao

[tiny nova]

I've been playing pf1 for 11 years, it's MY gunk

[winter pine]

Double down on an 11 and you always hit a face card

Do the bare minimum for the Legion Safehouse to get the Lucky shades if you want to turbo minmax

[arctic talon]

I like PF1 and 2e

tbh

[crystal forum]

luck builds in any video game feel like gaming the crit system to me

[arctic talon]

lowkey there's very few systems I like

actively dislike

that I've played

I should specify that part