40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

the rot spreads

[daring creek]

Omg its a furry

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-agnes-tachyon-tachyon-agnes-anvil-gif-6509626087963579393

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/ウマ娘-プリティーダービー-ウマ娘-umamusume-umamusume-pretty-derby-ステイゴールド-gif-18088481779848444505

[opaque coyote]

the uma craze spreads

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-correct-uma-musume-gif-18135324735467863367

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-still-in-love-still-in-love-uma-musume-gif-10324588910083405122

[arctic talon]

mfw the horse might have actually been mentally ill IRL

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-source-leak-fake-leak-leaking-gif-13900499262115031917

[arctic talon]

the jockey was also a weirdo

[near wasp]

Might of been.. nah that horse was insane

[arctic talon]

the horse had really weird attachment issues to its original jockey + its temperament swung wildly

and would attempt to trample/kick people who weren't him

she also was really inbred

really weird horse lol

[near wasp]

She also got worse with age

[arctic talon]

both the Jockey and Trainer for the horse said the horse was crazy/not well mentally so I'm inclined to believe them lol

now granted the horses jockey irl was also a nutcase but not in the same way

[near wasp]

At least it's not the tragedy that is rice shower and silent suzaka

[arctic talon]

I'm bored and I want more League lore

Rito please

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-fist-pump-celebration-horse-girl-racing-opera-o-gif-6655393067816857287

Theater kid Horse

[near wasp]

I've still got another hour at work

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-golshi-gold-ship-scream-gold-ship-sigh-gold-ship-pain-gif-17736731781653583378

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gif-2682032711946943250

[paper haven]

Hors

[arctic talon]

My favorite honse

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-cap-umamusume-uma-gif-15407094230313995300

[near wasp]

Fatty horse

Her gluttony is biblical

[lament shoal]

I thought tachyon was ur fav

Its 100% Agnes Digital hiding there off screen

[near wasp]

Digital is the cybernetic one right

[arctic talon]

Nah

[arctic talon]

Tachyon is my second favorite bcs I like the lab coat aesthetic and chemistry stuff lol

[arctic talon]

Digital is the one who simps

Horse was nicknamed Hentai irl for being a freak of nature who could run any distance + turf or dirt

lol

[near wasp]

Ah I was thinking of bourbon

[lament shoal]

Nah she's the otaku one who's obsessed with all the other umas

[near wasp]

I looked her up

[arctic talon]

Horse was alternatively constructed irl

[lament shoal]

I heard that the horse's jockey also had a habit of taking notes about the other racers so he could study up on the best ways to beat them, and that transferred to Digital's anime personality as well

[near wasp]

The Yakuza is loving this horse game

[arctic talon]

Infinite yakuza money

[lament shoal]

Finally got Creek to win the finals

[near wasp]

Straight to jail with you

[daring creek]

Horse game has such a shit pc port man.

[arctic talon]

It’s just an emulator

lol

[young pecan]

my favorite honse

[rocky gale]

Curren-Chan, my daughter

[opaque coyote]

Lmao the liar and truth heads

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-noelle-holiday-silly-noelle-goober-gif-1658351236888003313

[daring creek]

Do you know de wei

[young pecan]

I can hear it

[young pecan]

King Halo

Starting a gofundme to afford an artillery strike on her mother

[sacred bluff]

i'm ngl

solar war was a good fucking book

i was hooked the whole time

[vagrant fox]

apparently it's bad out there for the yiffers

[winter pine]

very excited to see what a horrible job they do to my favorite splat, Mage, if they even bother making a fifth edition

[vagrant fox]

i'm gonna say a mage slur if you say it's your favourite splat again

[near wasp]

is caster a mage slur

[vagrant fox]

freakin

finger wigglers

[near wasp]

i cant wait to scream this when i fight mages in dnd

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but if a STC was found by a Knight house that allowed to them equip Death strike missiles to a Knight, would the imperium allow it to happen?

Or would they just order the destruction of the STC?

[plush mason]

i made a van saar gang

[rustic patrol]

The Mechanicum would claims dibs, and if it wasn't handed over they're either comitting tech heresy, or breaching the Lex Imperialis and the Treaty of Olympus Mons.

[arctic talon]

The Mechanicus gets first dibs

[near wasp]

the admech would probably give the knight world some form of compensation though

[mossy peak]

what does this mean

[near wasp]

what in the psychosis

[languid meadow]

idk why I can't access the AoS warcom page but wtf

[winter pine]

Pretty sure this is some Maoist brainrot someone tried to slap 40k references on lmao

[cinder pivot]

Chairman T'au

[dapper gyro]

STC has to be analyzed by the admech before putting it into production, because sometimes they think the STC is bad or corrupted.

[abstract vector]

so After 20 years Andy Hall gave the Dawn of War dark crusade narrator a name.

"REMEMBRANCER THETA-SCION"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-463iXHwkVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUBIZcnCA4U

Gonna wait for another decade for andy hall giving the name for the soulstorm narrator

[raven stone]

Yo
Is the WarCom downloads page borked for anyone else?

[lament shoal]

Missus wtf does this mean

[daring creek]

Watch the video again

Dumbass

[misty vector]

bbtbtk

[crystal forum]

look

a gay

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s fucked

[lament shoal]

I watched it 3 times already and its still just as incomprehensible as before

[misty vector]

because bread tastes better than key

[jade holly]

Does Leman Russ actually have a spear named Gungnir?

[vital ginkgo]

How do demon primarchs stack up in power to other demon types of their gods? Is angron equal to, less or more powerful than a bloodthirster? Similar question for each demon primarch. Also are they favored over other demons or seen as less than since they were originally a type of human?

[jade holly]

Don’t some Daemon primarchs have daemons as bodyguards?

[celest dome]

He has/had the Spear of the Emperor

[sacred ginkgo]

Does "because bread tastes better than key" mean anything to you

[lament shoal]

I remember that meme now lol

[jade holly]

Tf kinda kitbash did I find lmao

[radiant lance]

A blessed one

[opaque coyote]

Basically, Daemon Primarchs are (at least) equivalent to Daemon Princes

And Daemon Princes are essentially powerful

The lucky and skilled few that avoided becoming a spawn

and managed to ascend into daemonhood

with many princes slaying powerful daemons long before ascending

And Daemon Primarchs are usually described as "Arguably greater in power than any other Daemon Prince or Greater Daemon"

[fallen oasis]

wokehammer 2026 pronounstide

[fallen oasis]

because bread tastes better than key

[daring creek]

The spiked eggnog I had did not taste that good ngl

It was just shitty eggnog with alochol in it....

A real sleeper

[dapper gyro]

I tried some blueberry cake milk alcohol drinks. It tastes amazing.

It is like a more expensive version of eggnog.

[daring creek]

What the fuck

That sounds so random

Fuck give that to me

The shit I drank cost 11 dollars

[rocky gale]

You gotta try pegnog

[daring creek]

SHITNOG

[celest dome]

Eggnog with a lamp of rum is great

[celest dome]

Carbonated drinks + milk aren't a great idea 💀

[rocky gale]

Pegnog

[queen laurel]

drink so foul even nurgle will not be able to drink it

[daring creek]

Yeah but the one I had was mixed w other stuff too..according to the bottle atleast

[daring creek]

Don't listen to this liberal

[rocky gale]

They're trying to supress our god given pegnog

[daring creek]

I just know they're shitting their guts out

[rocky gale]

Greatness requires sacrifice

[daring creek]

I don't think turning your butt inside out is worth it

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smerk-gif-3649197029996930170

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

This cats stupid as fuck I'm afraid

[rocky gale]

Same

[daring creek]

Wait

Fuck

[daring creek]

https://youtu.be/gilUPS6Wzbs

This reminds me of the oingo boingo twins style

Maybe its roughly based off that?

https://youtu.be/yVmw3ZhdzEs

[near wasp]

This chat clearly did not take its meds today

[queen laurel]

Are you still genuinely surprised?

[near wasp]

No

Some days it's better some days it's this

[queen laurel]

Well get used to it you will have to live with it

this chat it's just full of anomalies

[valid needle]

Who tf takes their meds anyway?

Why take my meds when I can slowly slip further into my delusions

[near wasp]

I forgot mine tbh

Guess I will have stummy ache today

[valid needle]

Fuck it we Baal

[near wasp]

At least it's pajama day at work

[daring creek]

I haven't in several days now actually

But its just adderall. Don't need it for this trip

Even though I took it w me

[daring creek]

Real

People who sleep in pajamas should be flayed

[near wasp]

Adderall and ridilin suck

[daring creek]

Ritalin*

Adderall is nice for me I guess

[near wasp]

I had to take it when I was younger cause I was super ADHD. I'm still ADHD but now I just don't care

[daring creek]

Vomits blood and dies

[rocky gale]

I always take my pills, someone told me once that they missed their dose for a couple days and they could feel their brain moving in their skull, so I make sure to never miss any.

[daring creek]

What are you taking

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wtf-stunned-dumbfounded-gif-7658627

[rocky gale]

Venlafaxine Krka

[daring creek]

That doesn't sound like adhd medication lmao.

[rocky gale]

It's not

[near wasp]

It's an anti depressiant

[daring creek]

Oh anti depressants

Cool

Honestly shit might as well be

[near wasp]

I just take ompremazole at this point

Aka acid reducers for my gerd

[surreal nest]

god i love ebay GW wanted 80 dollars for 5 miniatures

got them for 45

[wintry cloud]

The oathbound my beloved

[surreal nest]

ima use them for warcry

[rocky gale]

Me

[surreal nest]

i have to make the hardest decision of my life rn huddle up

which warcry terrain set do i lowball an ebay seller on

souldrain forest or shattered stormvault

[near wasp]

Stormvault

[surreal nest]

do u think its worth thr 200 asking price

ima lowball to 170

[arctic talon]

Storm vault is way cooler imo

[celest dome]

Vault

[valid needle]

If you aren’t willing to remortgage your house to buy more warhammer minis you be a tourist.

There i said it

GW is love
GW is life

[rocky gale]

If they're looking 200, then you gotta throw them off with an opening offer of 500

[surreal nest]

TBF too this is the only listing ive seen for stormvault

cant find it an ywhere else

[rocky gale]

And then while they're confused you go in with "too late offer expired, it's now 140"

[celest dome]

Vault is nice to play on, the other one is less so iirc

GW could crash and burn and I wouldn't shed a tear

[near wasp]

[west pendant]

I never understood this, if you are homeless, why dont you buy a house?

[surreal nest]

you think worth the 200 tho?

[celest dome]

I wouldn't, but I'm not currently planning on playing much warhammer TT anymore

[surreal nest]

it sucks that warcry terrains are so fucking rare

back then when i first started it I saw all sorts of terrain for like 100 bucks on amazon. All gone now

even the souldrain forest is like 170. which isnt too bad i guess but 😡

my former turned replacement theory white supremacist friend has a heart of ghur box we had halfsies on but i dont think i wanna ask if he wants to sell me the other half 😭

[soft thunder]

Do necromundans have australian accents?

[arctic talon]

I just imagine them as having British ones

[spring cairn]

it's gw so criminals all sound like british hooligans

[celest dome]

Different hives with different accents

[soft thunder]

is london accent for like spire dwellers, is that the fancy one?

[storm jungle]

Does everyone in the world have 1 accent.

[soft thunder]

yes

[plush mason]

there is a hive somewhere where all the people have Romanian accents

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

in a gw universe yes, everyone has the same accent

[soft thunder]

or speak french

[wary fulcrum]

I’d go as far as to say different domes

I can tell different accents fro different parts of Liverpool and that population in tiny in comparison

[arctic talon]

I like to imagine the foot level gangers are all super diverse for accents, but the clan house heads and public facing members are all trying to sound posh.

lol

[plush mason]

yeah

[spring cairn]

so yeah

[soft thunder]

sensible and sound thoughts

[spring cairn]

french and british hooligans

[plush mason]

realistically the different domes and sectors of a hive would have different regional accents

because even irl 2 neighboring counties can have wildly different accents and even dialects

[surreal nest]

AoS lore question dont beat me to death, do the Darkoath pretty much just fill the gap the Norscans left behind

[arctic talon]

yeah

as do like

all the other chaos tribes

and civilizations

Darkoath are meant to be similar to norscans vaguely aesthetically

[surreal nest]

They still pillage in the name of either god and shit?

cuz thats cool

sick and cool imo

[spring cairn]

rip danish cavemen

[arctic talon]

yes

but so does like

every chaos worshipper tbf

path to glory and all that

[surreal nest]

true

[storm jungle]

they are also like uhh

less norse and more Conan/Bronze Age barbarians

the vibe is still there but the latter is much more dominant, theres still some "northern" creepy shit and aesthetics to them

hence why they got stuff like literal wendigos in their range

or elk-like demons etc

[surreal nest]

SEND

SEND

[storm jungle]

📧

[surreal nest]

chaos warrriors are still human right

[arctic talon]

as human as a stormcast is human

[surreal nest]

sick

[wary fulcrum]

Sort of

They make promises for the gods with the hope of a reward

If they fail the promise it doesn’t go well for them

[surreal nest]

oko last question mr google

[arctic talon]

Chaos warriors are on chaos roids

lol

[queen laurel]

that's just warriors a chosen can cave in your head just by squeezing it

[arctic talon]

who's got the shittier impractical fantasy armor/j

[storm jungle]

Chaos Warriors are basically OG Chaos Marines, just replace genetic surgery with getting buffed up by eldritch powers

[wary fulcrum]

Both are perfect examples of fantasy chaos armour

[queen laurel]

I applaud the empire for having guys with the balls to go up against that

[arctic talon]

also magical enchanted armor

[arctic talon]

Turns out guns work

[wary fulcrum]

Practicality comes second to drip

[wary fulcrum]

You say that, but they have rifles

[queen laurel]

nah i'm talking about the front liners

[arctic talon]

this is true drip

darkoath inferior/j

[surreal nest]

do darkoath and chaos warriors get along or is it a superiority complex and fodder

[arctic talon]

filthy weaklings who deny the path to glory

[queen laurel]

The poor bastards at the frontline is what i meant

[arctic talon]

They both hate each other

[wary fulcrum]

Up to yourself really

[arctic talon]

darkoath tribes specifically reject the path of glory

(mostly)

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

but you can change that

Chaos warriors do not like people who are not on the path of glory

[queen laurel]

charlie equipped with a spear versus a man that is basically a walking tank in that era

[wary fulcrum]

The Dark Oath book has them chumming up to guys who seem very warrior coded

[arctic talon]

they see them as weak and worshipping chaos incorrectly™

[storm jungle]

Chaos Warriors are also like Archaon's (mostly) chosen legion of hellboys/girls, they are an entirely different league compared to the Darkoath/Slaves

[arctic talon]

ultimately they get along in battle/before battle

[wary fulcrum]

And there’s no dislike outside of the generic ‘they’re not us’ stuff

[arctic talon]

but culturally they're somewhat incompatible

in how they worship chaos

[storm jungle]

Yeah its kinda like how a knight migth look down on a peasant/man-at-arms that accompany them

[surreal nest]

you can run darkoath with chaos warriors tho right?

[wary fulcrum]

Yis

[arctic talon]

I forgot about this goofy ass mini bruh

[wary fulcrum]

A plains runner and a two handed dude can replace them really well

I’ve got 3 BoK to finish and then I’m working through that, I’ll show you when I finish it

Because the riders are so weird

[surreal nest]

looks better with the horses

the pose is weird

[arctic talon]

yeah

the horses look way better

[storm jungle]

Dude

him looking at us like

"Yes. This is my life now."

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-serious-jay-bauman-half-in-the-bag-break-the4th-wall-look-at-the-camera-gif-17253460

same vibe

[surreal nest]

whats the path to glory thing? darkoath arent on it?

[wary fulcrum]

It’s making me think of the guy from the Mad Max Rick and Morty episode that Summer gets with

Who has that dodgy moustache under the helmet

[queen laurel]

It's like a chaos slaves of darkness guy devoting himself to a path of ascending the chaos ladder

[spring cairn]

it's not goofy

[wary fulcrum]

The path to glory is the path to the varanguard or to daemonhood

[queen laurel]

From chaos warrior all the way to demon Prince

[spring cairn]

that shit's awesome

[arctic talon]

Path to glory is the path to gain more of the chaos gods/archaeons favor

[queen laurel]

Archaon funnily enough is just right near the end of the path of Glory

[spring cairn]

especially the chariot driver's helmet

[queen laurel]

But he doesn't take it because he hates the gods

He is still mortal

[arctic talon]

archaons labled as a daemon

rules wise

[arctic talon]

I like the horse one more

[wary fulcrum]

I’d debate if he’s even on it

His goal is to kill the Pantheon, I’m not sure where that fits with the path

[spring cairn]

it's more chaos with the gorebeast

[queen laurel]

I cast Toasterfication

[arctic talon]

Archaon has fallen off it

arguably

but he's also at the top so..........

[queen laurel]

I mean he is a mortal that can humble a daemon Prince

[celest dome]

Gorillas don't look good as pulling animal

[arctic talon]

"mortal"

[queen laurel]

I mean he is still referred to as mortal in AOS so

[arctic talon]

calling Archaon a mortal is like calling Morathi a mortal pre ascension

you

are technically correct

but practically wrong

[queen laurel]

Look if AOS stops referring to him as mortal then I will

[wary fulcrum]

I’m getting the Abraxia novel over Xmas, apparently their relationship is fun

[surreal nest]

im so excited to start my warband thanks lore nerds

[wary fulcrum]

Whatcha doing with a Warband?

[surreal nest]

warcry

darkoath and chaos warriors one

[wary fulcrum]

Good folk! GW’s best ruleset

Dark oath Raiders or Savagers?

(Do both)

[surreal nest]

raiders, im going to use the oathbound kit

[wary fulcrum]

That one has been on my list for a little while

Also blows my mind that the Blacksmith is related to Vandus Hammerhand

The Stormcast dude

[surreal nest]

i got it off ebay for 35 bucks

but yeah ill be getting the bloodwing legion spearhead as well

wind

also ordered the tazarketh bane of law mini

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah that’ll be cool, apparently it’s broken as a spearhead too

[surreal nest]

thats what ive heard i hope its not too evil, i wanna play it against my friends stormcast

[wary fulcrum]

I’ve got him on my table, next to the Warhammer + one I had to fix because I put her on the wrong base

So now that’s on top of another with a load of skulls around the rim

I was rocking these bad boys on Thursday against my Man’s Orruks

(If you follow Warboss Kurgan on blogspot, his orruks are incredible and he absolutely maimed me)

[surreal nest]

god those are so fucking cool

whats the name of that monster in the back?

[wary fulcrum]

It’s a Khorgorath, big monster they had from 1st Ed, seems to be an animal they feed skulls to and Khorne mutates it

[arctic talon]

do they not sell it anymore

lol

[surreal nest]

average khorne critter

This is for warcry right?

[arctic talon]

nvm

he's stuck in the big combo box

[wary fulcrum]

I reckon it’ll be gotten rid of or turned into their Theridon equivalent

They’ve already dropped half the heroes

[celest dome]

🙏 Give the same treatment to the other Monogod factions as Nurgle just did

[arctic talon]

lol

Maggotkin are the blessed child

[celest dome]

Explore more than just their basic themes

[arctic talon]

1000 more minis to Maggotkin

[celest dome]

Nurgle everywhere tbh

Even 40k

Hells, even during the ET too

[surreal nest]

did you guys see darkwater hasnt even sold out yet

crazy

not what i expected'

[rocky gale]

It'a a big expensive box

[surreal nest]

yeah but its the newest iteration of a warhammer quest after like 4 years with really good og minis

[wary fulcrum]

They’ve probably over produced

With the issues CC had it wouldn’t surprise me (thanks Brexit!)

[rocky gale]

Yea they usually produce quite a few of the starter boxes

[celest dome]

Cursed City 💀

[arctic talon]

Overproduced it because cursed city was a shit show

[rose thorn]

“If you paint any space marine blue, it’s an ultramarine”

Thank you gw ultra marine protest arg

[jade holly]

Do people consider Sanguinius a Gary Stu at all?

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

But whatever

40k has them out the ass

lol

[jade holly]

I’m guessing Kaldor Drago whatever his name is still gets more hate for being literally flawless?

[storm jungle]

He acknowledges he has literal in-universe plot armor during HH and the Siege which is pretty funny

[queen laurel]

Didn't stop Horus from turning him into a wall art

[rocky gale]

"Not because I can win, but because it is right"

https://tenor.com/view/sanguinius-warhammer-warhammer-40k-blood-angels-40k-gif-5881363644987634394

[storm jungle]

Thats what i mean.

He knew he would likely die at Horus' hand and nowhere else.

[rocky gale]

If this Ultramarine protest bit turns out to be an elaborate way to build up a Word Bearer reveal It would be pretty peak

[storm jungle]

Its likely that or just more loyalists.

[rocky gale]

The GW employee in the latest video is wearing a Word Bearer shirt while saying "We're clearly all Ultramarine fans" and the Reporter is called "Mark from Calth news"

Like come on

[storm jungle]

Good point actually

[rocky gale]

Mark of Calth being the event where Word Bearers ambushed the Ultramarines during the Heresy

[storm jungle]

What makes me sus is like

when they do lame jokes like this is its usually a one-off and contained in 1 video

the fact that they made 2 vids rn thus keeping it going is what makes me raise a brow

[jade holly]

You mean we may get a Lorgar mini?

[raven stone]

…

[storm jungle]

Probaaaably not, id just say WB minis

[raven stone]

I don’t want to say GW is clever enough to do that, but…

[storm jungle]

Primarch reveals are largely saved for big'ish events like Arks of Omen

[jade holly]

What’s WB’s specialty?

[raven stone]

Anything for a break from the stupid blueberries

[storm jungle]

Chaos Undivided, daemonic summonings, basically Ecclesiarchy but Chaos

[jade holly]

So unholy priests

[storm jungle]

They have done this dumb liminal message stuff in the past so its why Iarmoth kinda has a point

[raven stone]

P much

They could be a candidate for reverse Black Templars actually

GW why don’t you do that :/

[storm jungle]

Yeah they were the Legion that created what the modern Chaplaincy of marines is based on, along with the smaller foundings of the Imperial Cult along with their bible the Lecitio Divinitatus

[vagrant fox]

time for calth 2 in the scouring series

[raven stone]

Oh hey we have Hive Scum channel lol

(Just noticed)

[rocky gale]

Calth could be one of the focus points in the coming 500 worlds narrative, so we get World Bearers coming back to bully Ultramarines because it's funny

[storm jungle]

Yeah like i said you made a good point with it

their lame one-off jokes are usually always contained in 1 video

if we get another "protest" vid then its definitely some other future big reveal

[surreal nest]

the darktide subreddit is bitching about how hadron talks about skitarii and they're talking about how fatshark is being disrespectful toconsumers

i love it

[storm jungle]

LMAOOO

[outer wave]

I havent seen much bitching out of the subreddit in concerns to that

[near wasp]

They are just a bunch of crybabies

[outer wave]

Got a link or two?

[queen laurel]

I am helping you here

It's not worth the effort

It's all complaining in there

[near wasp]

I've seen a lot of stuff in yt comment sections

[outer wave]

I know it is, Im just curious

[surreal nest]

its mainly just comments under the posts talking about the skitarii line

[outer wave]

Ah fair fair

[surreal nest]

cant pretend its a whole universal complaint but it was enough to make me giggle

[storm jungle]

My favorite part is like

people do realise that shit has been written and recorded likely 2-3 months ago right

[surreal nest]

Nope they live updated the game to spite their fanbase

actually pulled in the voice actress last second its part of the contract, expect more

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[rose thorn]

I completely forgot the black legion was a thing

[storm jungle]

how the fuck

[valid needle]

Your first mistake was installing Reddit.

[surreal nest]

reddit is great for miniature art and inspiration

thats all officer

[valid needle]

No because he got folded like a lawn chair.

[green loom]

Does anyone have more bits of the new OST

[rose thorn]

Because they haven’t been the main antagonist in anything I read in like a year or two

It’s been mostly word bearers

[storm jungle]

do you like

read anything

Black Legion is everywhere maggie

💀

[storm jungle]

The full version is pinned in theorychat but i think thats basically it

[rose thorn]

I think it’s because I haven’t read a space marine book in 2 years

And all the video games ahve been word bearers and death guard (and now night lords)

[plush mason]

so random question, who crews the admech's legged tank thing? is it skitarri servitors or a mix of the 2?

[green loom]

It feels like there's some march stuff in here and I'm

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Onager_Dunecrawler

[rose thorn]

Hey what was Munda like during the HH? I haven’t read the book Ozo is from lol

[plush mason]

so basically both lmao

[late verge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/npzmcKdJWN0?si=XCN3JW9C8b6q7YEa

obv im supposed to hate them but god the drooks are so fucking dumb

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Necromunda_(planet)

[rose thorn]

Good point, thank youuuu

[storm jungle]

Also remember this is a summary, its even more detailed in the rulebooks

the Araneus Continuity is some wack ass shit

[late verge]

The craftworld eldar actually care about life and dedicate their lives to protecting against slaanesh and preserving the eldar species whereas the drukhari just inflict upon others what slaanesh will inevitably inflict upon them in the warp

They are literally all doomed and its so easy to just back out of that way of life

The exodites and craftworlders show its possible

And many drukhari become craftworlders

But the pathetic scum sucking bottom feeding commorites just utterly refuse to change

[storm jungle]

They are just psychos. And its not really that easy. You can look at IRL today, we can solve all of the planet's issues if every single rich hedonistic person just pooled their resources into fixing the issues we have now, but they will never bother until it directly starts affecting them, most assholes will never drop their vices to aspire to be something better because they do it for the love of the game.

[late verge]

They all deserve what they get

[storm jungle]

You can also say this directly to one of them and you'll essentially get "Do you have a point"

[rose thorn]

Feel like it took way too long for the Ordo xeno to be formed lol, like the war of the beast being the cause of it’s creation

[storm jungle]

Aliens werent as big of a galactic threat.

[late verge]

Except it IS that easy, that they refuse to do it is not an actual obstacle, theyre just dickheads. I feel the same way abt irl humans who think this way

[storm jungle]

Its not. You need a soulstone bonding process you can extremely suffer and die from.

[rose thorn]

Fair

[storm jungle]

Its why most Dark Eldar never bother.

or just think they cant change.

its like drug addiction

[late verge]

I wish all drukhari a very get vored by slaanesh

[storm jungle]

They got loopholes and are the most numerous sect of eldar, they'll be fine

[late verge]

Isnt the whole point that they torture in order to put off being eaten by slaanesh? And when they die they'll be tortured forever anyways?

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah but they got loopholes, again

Haemonculi, resurrection pacts, bargains, other wild tech etc

[late verge]

Theyre gonna suffer and die anyways idk man suck it up

[storm jungle]

Easier said than done. Imagine living as a murderer than having to re-live every pain and suffering you had to put hundreds of people through lmao

[late verge]

Oh no the consequences of my actions:

[storm jungle]

If you think its easy step in and try it

[late verge]

Yeah but most drooks are gonna end up in slaanesh's stomach at some point eventually anyways. Only the craftworld and exodites with thwir funny soul repository things actually safeguard their dead

[rose thorn]

I have a feeling the hytale community is gonna be the most unbearable mfs ever

Everyone who only complains about Minecraft while playing it moves to that game

[storm jungle]

Yeah but that doesnt really matter to them, dark eldar are so numerous that every vatborn batch that gets made my haemonculi just gets dumped to the streets, they dont care, they just chill and torture people and live at the underbelly of the galaxy.

[queen laurel]

The elite even have access to just straight up revival

[near wasp]

Just watched the new calth news video. Shits kinda funny

[queen laurel]

Dark eldar biotech is funny

[late verge]

Actually it WOULD be easy for me cause I haven't turned people into living furniture

[near wasp]

I'll turn you into a chair

[storm jungle]

Hence why I said "if you murdered thousands of people"

there aint no "I havent turned people into living furniture" if you are born in commorragh

its the blade or you getting your throat slit

[queen laurel]

Yeah but if you are born a dark eldar and you want to be sane?

Bahahaha

That's funny joke

[storm jungle]

Commoragh is literally just dark elf Night City lol

[near wasp]

If you were born a deldar your only chance to live a normal life is to run away and hope a craft world or solitaires will accept you

[storm jungle]

^

just like Night City, the only way you win is by walking away, but even that requires a ton of effort.

[plush mason]

"sanity is for the WEAK"

[storm jungle]

as you cant just leave lol

[near wasp]

Honestly I feel bad for dark eldar kids because they are basically being groomed

[late verge]

Idk i feel like theres a disconnect here lol

"But youre so morally privileged to have been born jn a society where you WEREN'T forced to flay babies alive!"

"What if you just. Didn't do that."

"WHAT, YOU WANT ME TO STARVE DON'T YOU?!"

(This is all in jest ofc im jot actually mad)

[plush mason]

that DOW1 vo lives rent free in my head

[storm jungle]

Theres no disconnect. They are just evil and some just cant leave Commorragh.

[storm jungle]

Not even basically, it is what it is.

The lore outright says dark eldar children are *taught *to be evil

[queen laurel]

Night city but expanded into an entire giant massive dimensional tunnels that run through between the material and the warp

[queen laurel]

Yeah but your parents will force you to skin someone

Dark eldar are basically their own thing now

[surreal nest]

You are applying logic to a maddened and terrified race of spacefaring creatures

[storm jungle]

^

thank you lol

theres no sanity or sense for any 40k faction

[late verge]

Comorragh is a circlejerk of misery. Nobody there is actually happy or genuinely enjoys their lives. The dark eldar lifestyle will never bring actual fulfilment and will always end in getting backstabbed or tortured anyways and all the unimaginable cruelties you inflicted on others will have been for nothing and you will experience everything you did to them except billions of times worse

[storm jungle]

Some absolutely love the lives they live im sorry 💀

[plush mason]

arent the various regions of Commoragh both insanely far apart and right next to each other because of the webways' fuckery?

[storm jungle]

like again

they do not give a shit

[storm jungle]

Basically: yes. Its a realm that makes no sense geometrically and is essentially endless.

[late verge]

Craftworld eldar arent perfect but they have an OUNCE of sense. Again I'm not saying its unrealistic or bad worldbuilding i get why they dont do it I'm saying that they are bad and deserve bad things

[green loom]

Isn't it a whole thing where they're actively making the vat born more aggressive

[green loom]

Everyone in the setting is a horrific monster

[storm jungle]

You are again applying logic from an outsider's perspective, most dark eldar dont even know half of this shit, their entire lives is doing what they do.

they are just evil cunts

its not that complex

[late verge]

They still deserve bad things

[green loom]

The Craftworld eldar are also edge sects of basically doomsday preppers

[late verge]

Yeah thats my point lol

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

[late verge]

And theyre better than drukhs

[green loom]

Some of them are kinda nice but others are about as murderous as the Drukhari

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah this reminds me

[plush mason]

dont forget the crafterworlders will and have murder trillions of people to save just a handful of their own number

[storm jungle]

finally banned that dumbass that was arguing about darkmech being worse than admech

[storm jungle]

To be fair still more justified than dark eldar lol

[surreal nest]

[plush mason]

true

[queen laurel]

What was that name again I forgot

It wasn't azra wasn't it

[storm jungle]

Basically imagine your country but its floating in space and everyone in the universe is a nazi out to kill all of you

[plush mason]

yup

[storm jungle]

Also humans breed like rabbits its fine

[late verge]

Tbh I always interpreted it as more "there are no good institutions but individually there can be well meaning people" drukhari are somewhat unique in that they are not, really

[queen laurel]

Orks are right there

[storm jungle]

CWE are one of the more morally "okay" factions yeah but dont say this outloud lol

[plush mason]

nah we be putting even cockroachs to shame in 40k

[late verge]

Yeah i mean i feel like its kinda disingenuous to claim that cwe and de are on the same level just cause theyre both evil lmao

[storm jungle]

They arent yeah

[green loom]

The institutions are bad, and good people are forced to do horrible things in service of them
There's very little "good" in the sense we'd imagine it, the bar is "not actively cruel" in setting

[storm jungle]

CWE (minus Biel-Tan) also dont go out of their way to wage war unless its necessary

[late verge]

Thats why i said "well meaning" rather than "good"

[late verge]

Its like that annoying trope in movies where the villain who has killed millions is like "if u kill me you'll be as bad as me"

[storm jungle]

to be fair thats another can of worms

also a braindead trope

some people need to die lmao

[queen laurel]

Yeah like someone said some people just like to watch the world burn

And there is no saving those guys

[surreal nest]

i like variations of the trope but the one of being as bad as the villain is dumb

[wary fulcrum]

Fucken word

[surreal nest]

i like the trope of they dont kill bad people because if they do they might see how easy and enjoyable it is and do it more

[rose thorn]

GROTMAS AND MDOEL TRVEAL IS TOMROROW!!!

[late verge]

Also cwe save the biel tan actually do care about other species to a certain extent. Granted, not as equals, but imperials will literally kill billions of humans just to kill one eldar. Again, theyre not on the same level lmao

[rose thorn]

Can’t wait for everyone to be disappointed!

[wary fulcrum]

Like, I kind of get the Batman one because it’s not ‘I’ll be as bad as you’ it’s ‘I’ll eventually make you look like a fucking boy scout’

[storm jungle]

This one scene from this Batman animated movie sums it up imo

https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comments/ui0ri1/no_more_all_the_people_ive_murdered_by_letting/

'No more... All the people I've murdered, by letting you live'

fucking metal

[green loom]

Wait there's reveals tomorrow?

[rose thorn]

Monday model reveals

[late verge]

Eh fair enough.

[green loom]

Sidenote read Absolute Batman fr

[rose thorn]

They do one like 75% of the time on mondays

On warhammer community

[storm jungle]

I have and its the best decision ive made i think, its peak 🙏

[queen laurel]

I understand Batman's no kill rule he's just a guy that brings it into the justice system and lets them handle it, it's just that the justice system is absolutely hilarious

What do you mean psychopathic clown to the asylum

[jade holly]

Aren’t too high up and valuable to be used among rejects anyways?

[queen laurel]

Kill it

[near wasp]

I mean admech and dark mech are both just as evil as eachother

[late verge]

Darkmechs and admechd are practically the same. Its just one is loyal to the emperor and is okay with using chaos and (i think?) ai and one isnt

[jade holly]

A tech-adept would be way more likely no?

[storm jungle]

We arent really rejects anymore so not really no

[surreal nest]

i think it just depends on how bad it gets

[storm jungle]

Yeah the only difference is one uses daemons essentially

[queen laurel]

We are now inquisitorial acolytes

Which is the lowest rank in the Inquisition but

We're official members

[storm jungle]

the Mechanicus are like COMICALLY supervillain levels of evil

[jade holly]

One uses daemons, and the other has Cawl and his bitchass plot convenience Deus Ex Machina bullshit

[queen laurel]

Hadron casually saying that the machine must be fed

[near wasp]

Don't talk I'll about my boy cawl

[late verge]

I dont support the death penalty but not because i dont think some people have rescinded their right to existence but because I dont trust the masses or the government to choose who deserves it

[vagrant fox]

Quote mechanicus marching tau prisoners into a volcano
We have inhumanity to spare

Comical bunch

[late verge]

I dont trust myself with that power either, I dont trust anyone with that power

[green loom]

Cawl is like

A total cult extremist

[storm jungle]

yeah i meant more in a superhero/mano-mano case

[queen laurel]

I would go with execution by firing squad but that's just me

[green loom]

It's pretty funny

[late verge]

Yea, and self defense

[jade holly]

Isn’t Cawl GW’s excuse for whenever something happens lore retcon wise?

[green loom]

No?

He like made the primaris marines

[queen laurel]

No

[green loom]

Which actually is giving him a lot of credit he basically just found an almost finished project and kinda half finished it

[wary fulcrum]

I vibe

State violence is always a problem

[late verge]

They are almost unrealistically evil for a large human institution,

Almost.

[green loom]

Then everything else he makes has been readily available to the Martians they were just a different flavour of dogmatic extremist vs Cawl's practical

[late verge]

Very true

[wary fulcrum]

But sometimes a fucker needs to be violenced

It’s a tricky one

[green loom]

Like Cawl is all down with Machine Cult stuff he just isn't a very church-prone creature

[late verge]

Ehhhh

Disagree

We're still taked abt like were disposanle

[green loom]

His idea of communing with teh Machine God is making stuff

[storm jungle]

You cant disagree, its the reality lol

[late verge]

Yeah it is i agree

[queen laurel]

We are disposable inquisitorial agents

[storm jungle]

Thats literally everyone in the inquisition, you realise that right

[queen laurel]

That's not the reject

A reject is a criminal but the moment you reach level 30

[green loom]

Every imperial is disposable

[queen laurel]

You are now proven to be a true

Inquisitorial acolyte

[late verge]

Oh right right right i forgot abt that

Mb

[storm jungle]

Lord Inquisitors treat Inquisitor pupils as disposable, Inquisitors treat their Interrogators as disposable, Interrogators treat their warband members as disposable, it goes from all the way to the top to all the way to the bottom.

[late verge]

I meant ESPECIALLY disposable

[queen laurel]

Hell some of us are good enough to survive so long our deeds spread like wildfire as a hero

[storm jungle]

you need to remember after the launch missions and going forward always EVERY mission is ones we are handpicked for, Zola and others say as much during missions. Down to even sometimes suggesting pulling you out due to the risk being too great.

[late verge]

As in like initially the poiny of the reject thing feels like its to kill you first and if you just happen to complete the mission then thats a nice bonus

[green loom]

You're just above the normal degree of disposable now

[late verge]

Oh right

[storm jungle]

that still happens but by now in the plot we are proper Inquisition agents

[green loom]

Mostly due to our continuous issue with "we literally don't have the bodies to hold this place"

[late verge]

Never really thought abt it ig. Neat.

[storm jungle]

Theres a lot of substance to darktide once you read more into the dialogue

even the most single line implies a lot of things

[wary fulcrum]

I think as far as Grendyl is concerned, we’re disposable

If it were Eisenhorn or Ravenor, we wouldn’t be

But I also think Grendyl sees everyone except Swagger as disposable (because Grendyl is Swagger)

[late verge]

I agree tho that "good" in such a cruel universe generally only means "not knowingly, actively cruel"

[daring creek]

Swag

[jade holly]

I wonder if we’ll ever get to see what Grendyl actually looks like

[wary fulcrum]

They must have modelled a face under Swag’s hood, so that

[daring creek]

I think my mom once told me swag is a bad word. Probably because she did not want me to say the word swag...

[jade holly]

Are you saying Swagger is Grendyl?

[wary fulcrum]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Like I said uptop Lord Inquisitors treat Inquisitor pupils as disposable, Inquisitors treat their Interrogators as disposable, Interrogators treat their warband members as disposable, it goes from all the way to the top to all the way to the bottom.

[daring creek]

Then who treats lord Inquisitors disposable..

[wary fulcrum]

Sort of agree

I was more saying that I think Grendyl and Inquisitor’s of that bend aren’t bothered but other Inquisitors would be, it kind of depends on the Inquisitor and how they operate

[green loom]

Other Lord Inquisitors

[storm jungle]

I mean its not "sort", Dark Heresy and other material goes deeply into this and the books show as much. Eisenhorn sacrifices literally all his warband members lol

[wary fulcrum]

Like, Coteaz would probably be bummed if Cell 790-ayj got wiped because of the implication

But I don’t think he could name them all

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

[late verge]

My main point was just that the drukhari reap what they sow and I think you agree lol. Its always fun when they get whats coming to them (eternal torture)

[storm jungle]

have you read his book

[storm jungle]

buddy that topic is from like 20m ago

[late verge]

And?

[wary fulcrum]

He literally daemonhosts a guy for getting his friends killed

[storm jungle]

We are past it. Why are you pinging my old message? lol

[wary fulcrum]

Or his gun cutter

[late verge]

I had more to say

[wary fulcrum]

Some room for debate there

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

And in the same novel instantly dispatches his interrogator the moment he outlives his usefulness, a guy he spent years training.

[dapper gyro]

It does sound random, but it is good. I don't even know where they source that.

[wary fulcrum]

Who?

||Fischig?||

[plush mason]

expecting an inquisitor to have a clear sense of morals honor and loyalty is like expecting a night lord to be good with kids and small animals

[storm jungle]

Im talking about Coteaz lol

[queen laurel]

I mean they are good with them They are good at turning them into very nice coats

[late verge]

There are degrees to which there are relatively "innocent" people in the imperium or the tau or whatever even when the institutions they serve and likely their beliefs are incredibly evil but I dont think the average adult drukhari is innocent in the same way a hive menial is

[wary fulcrum]

Ooooh, sorry I was talking about Eisenhorn

Sorry again, to be clear, I mean that Coteaz woild bummed that one of his cells gets wiped, not because members of the team are dead, he doesn’t care about that, but because his network has been attacked

They’re disposable

[late verge]

Drukhari are enthusiastic participants in unfathomable cruelty and the average hive worlder is just a brainwashed slave

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically. Eisenhorn cared about his team but in the end as you can see at some point he very much doesnt even bother anymore either.

the only Inquisitors that would actually somewhat care about their entourage are the ones that arent like massive in influence and just travel with like the same band of people like a proper RPG crew

[surreal nest]

innocent is bad terminology

[late verge]

Innocent as in, not deserving of death

[wary fulcrum]

I think that’s part of his arc though, shows just how far he’s fallen

Though he does care about some of them, there’s parts of (I want to say Magos) where he’s pretty chill with Nayl about going over to Ravenor

[surreal nest]

considering the galaxy would be a better place if the imperium exploded, maybe. maybe not

[storm jungle]

My man

[late verge]

A better galaxy for some but by that logic the galaxy would be a better place if chaos devoured everything because it would benefit the chaos gods

[storm jungle]

Not really no

thats whataboutism

[late verge]

No???

[storm jungle]

nobody is talking about chaos, we are talking about the Imperium

its entire existence has led to the galaxy being torn in half

lol

also provided chaos with its GREATEST champions

[surreal nest]

well no the imperium is the root of most of the problems and is still constantly a major bully and abuser of even its own citizens

[storm jungle]

^

Chaos is dogshit evil but this isnt the core of the subject

[wary fulcrum]

The galaxy would be a better place if chaos won

Because it would self cannibalise itself and then they’d get to start again once it wiped itself out

||hydra dominatus||

[surreal nest]

obviously the galaxy would be awesome if chaos went away but imperium has probably still done more damage imo

[arctic talon]

Chaos has done more damage then the imperium but only because the imperium exists

lol

thats how I dissect this

the Imperium gave chaos its strongest realspace footholds

[late verge]

Oh if you mean the IMPERIUM and not humanity i agree but I think "killing literally all humans including the vast majority which are as much victims of the system as perpetuators of it" that's kind of a weird take ngl

[surreal nest]

i only said imperium because i meant imperium

[late verge]

Okay then i agree

[late verge]

Even so i still dont think innocent is inappropriate here because I don't mean "morally good" i just mean "not obviously personally responsible for terrible things that wouldn't've happened anyways"

Though there is obviously nuance here

[valid needle]

Wrong

[surreal nest]

Correct

[wet sandal]

that depends entirely on what actually happens

"imperium exploded" doesnt mean anything

[valid needle]

If the imperium go, the galaxy goes.

[late verge]

I think he means if the imperium as an institution was magically dissolved

[valid needle]

Who besides the imperium is holding back all the most evil xenos?

Tyranids

Orks

Necrons

[green loom]

The galaxy is already gone

[valid needle]

If imperium is gone these three plus chaos will war and kill until the universe is dead

[green loom]

The Emperor made sure of that

[valid needle]

It was fine before chaos decided to be evil and do evil business

[queen laurel]

Corswain you are starting to look like an actual Black Templar fan

Keep it up

[late verge]

Tau, craftworlders, hypothetical non imperial humans since we're talking about the imperium being dissolved

[wary fulcrum]

Just saw that Wrath and Glory are doing a Darktide book

[queen laurel]

......They already did

[green loom]

Yeah and which genius decided it'd be an amazing idea to give them gigantic legions of super soldiers

[late verge]

He said it himself, imperium being destroyed =/= humanity being destroyed

[celest dome]

If Terra disappear (with or without a new Eye), it would lead to a better potential to having an actual good future

[wet sandal]

That still explains nothing

[wary fulcrum]

The one they announced yesterday?

[valid needle]

Oh yes because they stand a chance at holding back chaos, orks tyranids and necrons

[late verge]

Yes unironically

The imperium is entirely unequipped to deal with these threats

[queen laurel]

No ya numpty

It's already a thing

[celest dome]

https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/warhammer-40-000-roleplay-wrath-glory-darktide-extraction

[valid needle]

Exactly and if the imperium is struggling you think imperium leaving the fight will go well?

[green loom]

Hypothetically a single imperial planet could probably snowball the full recovery of the Galaxy if that's the narrative we wanted

[celest dome]

You do realise that the Imperium stifle any type of progress, and that the Tau aren't treating the human on the worlds they control worse than the Imperium does

[late verge]

Yes because the imperium hinders itself and all the other factions from effectively dealing with these threats because they are so obsessed with their xenophobia and technological stagnation.

The deathwatch wiped out a species of aliens that had anti chaos tech, they disrupted an eldar ritual that couldve ended slaanesh

[green loom]

The Imperium is just rigor mortis in Empire form, it's dead already

[late verge]

They also just generally create division where there needs to be a united front

[valid needle]

The imperial worlds are gone

[late verge]

Youre acting like the imperium is a force multiplier but its absolutely not

[valid needle]

If the imperium dies the worlds are included

[near wasp]

No because even if the main imperium falls ultramar will still exist

[valid needle]

Good points. The deathwatch thing wasn’t our most bright idea.

[celest dome]

The Severan Dominate or something, forgot the name, the domain that broke of from the Imperium isn't a paradise, but it still way better than most Imperial area

[near wasp]

The imperium probably could fight off the dark but it's such a bloated dessicated system that nothing gets done and planets die

[late verge]

A flawed society that tries to be better is better than a flawed society that tries to be WORSE

[green loom]

That's a bad example TBF since it kept most of the imperial stuff going and the leader mostly kept in power via deals with the Drukhari lol no?

[late verge]

If the imperium dropped its anti technological progress and anti xenos ideology i'd agree with you but unfortunately that's literally never going to happen

[late verge]

Me when the deathwatch are so stupid even the black templar thinks theyre dumb;

[celest dome]

Yes, but they're still doing better

[valid needle]

Although. That ritual could have easily went wrong. Remember the Evil God of Sexual Assault they made from their orgy ritual.

[wary fulcrum]

In my defence. That was from yesterday, I thought they were announcing it

[celest dome]

Remember the army that the Emperor gave to Chaos

[celest dome]

Also the Emp is next.

Encroaching Ruin

[late verge]

Even though it was disrupted it still fucked up slaanesh to an extent. If it was allowed to happen it at least wouldn't've made it worse

If the deathwatch cared about fighting chaos they'd go "hmm let's maybe work with these eldar to make sure this ritual goes right" but they dont care because "EWWW ELDAR ARE ALIENSSSS EWWWW"

[celest dome]

Tbf, Deathwatch doesn't care about Chaos at all

[late verge]

Yeah no exactly my point

[queen laurel]

They're making another one?

[celest dome]

They're anti Xenos and strictly that

[queen laurel]

Huh

[valid needle]

I can’t lie it’s a bit late to do that buddy we already killed all the peaceful xenos, there’s only the evil xenos left and I doubt they would want an alliance with humans since they too are evil.

We all evil

Nobody wants an alliance

[celest dome]

I think it is the same "Cargo Elevator E07"

[late verge]

The tau and craftworld eldar are not even remotely perfect but they would be up for an alliance and have made that exceedingly clear

[wary fulcrum]

I don’t think so

When you click on the link it’s the cover art from the picture you posted, so maybe just different art?

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's not new I just checked the news tab

[outer wave]

Piece of art goes hard

[valid needle]

I mean tau we’re sterilising human worlds for fun I think they are a bit late to ask for alliance

[late verge]

I assume you have an issue with this because it eliminates potential new servitors

[celest dome]

Com-on FS, gib mission where we ride on a boat

[valid needle]

No it’s the making human worlds completely infertile and trying to exterminate the human race.

[celest dome]

1. The Imperium does that too, even to local Human populations
2. The Imperium also does worse
3. I don't even think it is still cannon @storm jungle should know

[storm jungle]

Yeah sterilizing thing is from DoW and old af

they do other authoritarian shit

[late verge]

If they wanted the human race gone they wouldnt have allowed any in their empire to begin with

[valid needle]

Not any worse than what chaos and their marines do

[celest dome]

Love those arts

[wary fulcrum]

I mean, you say that but there’s real world examples of those exact actions

[valid needle]

Also

I just said EVERYONE is evil

[celest dome]

And of dubious cannon anyway 🤷

[rose thorn]

Oh is this official art of necromunda mutant outcasts?

[late verge]

Yes but we both agree chaos and nids are worse

[celest dome]

From the W&G Darktide stuff

[rose thorn]

Oh neat

[full obsidian]

Babe its time for another "which 40k faction is evil" debate 🐒

[late verge]

You cant pull the "everyone is bad" card after you already prefaced this argument with "the imperium is bad but necessary"

[valid needle]

Based

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[valid needle]

When did I say “imperium is bad but necessary”

[full obsidian]

at best you can say the imperium is only necessary NOW because they wiped out every other human civilisation that couldve had a chance

[late verge]

this is how i interpreted this

[valid needle]

Don’t put words in my mouth, I said that the galaxy would die if imperium died because the other factions don’t have the manpower to fight against chaos or nids.

[celest dome]

Even then, many smaller Domain would survive and thrive by being freed from the control of the Imperium

[late verge]

Fuck em nids

[opaque coyote]

Yes, it is partially true on some level, but that's because the Imperium caused it to be necessary when it wasn't.

[late verge]

Eh fair enough

[opaque coyote]

Like Tyranids are arguably something they can't directly be blamed over

Because that was literally a mistake

But that's about it

[arctic talon]

Tbf

Tiamet would have rung the dinner bell anyways

With or without the imperium

The imperium just rang a weaker one earlier

[celest dome]

The Pharos exploding was cause by Chaos SM, which have been caused by the Imperium

Ergo, Imperial's fault

[valid needle]

If I’m out swimming at the beach and accidentally draw the attention of a shark is it my fault the shark is there?

[late verge]

Based on this misogynistic meme

[celest dome]

Could have led to fewer Hive Strains coming toward the Milky way though, other going toward different area

[arctic talon]

Well Pharos was blown up during the heresy

[arctic talon]

Imo it would have been worse if the tiamet beacon was what rung

Bcs it’s big

Like

[storm jungle]

Classic lol

[arctic talon]

Psykers can literally hear it “screaming” big

lol

A space marine librarians head literally exploded

The moment they got near the beacon

lol

[late verge]

I mean ig thats fair but i also think that the imperium sabotages itself and others in the fight against literally the worst thing imaginable(tm)

[winged jacinth]

Please babe let me take advantage of your vulnerability

[late verge]

So true

[surreal nest]

is the imperium the innocent beach goer in this scenario or the fisherman dumping bait into the water as other people swim

[late verge]

Sorry that was actually me I was playing psyker

[arctic talon]

It’s dumping the bait while in a fist fight

[late verge]

This is unrelated but that's a hilarious image

[arctic talon]

I mean

That is literally how the Pharos beacon blew

[late verge]

Ik

Im not disagreeing just

[arctic talon]

It was a bunch of marines fighting each other and they accidentally blew the shit up

[surreal nest]

also the only reason why humanity fights against chaos the most is because they are mortal enemies if other factions cared as bad as the imperium did im pretty sure chaos would be in a lot worse shape no?

[arctic talon]

No

The eldar hate chaos more

lol

[late verge]

Two guys fist fighting in the water precariously balancing a bucket of chum

[arctic talon]

Chaos is enemy #1 for eldar of all flavors

[near wasp]

I regret my gaming group deciding rouge trader will be our next group game

[full obsidian]

they fight chaos the most because most of chaos comes from within the imperium

[late verge]

Every faction are the "bad guys" but also chaos are the worst guys

[surreal nest]

the entire point of warhammer is for you to not do this comparison

[late verge]

I disagree tbh

[near wasp]

Chaos are the good guys

[surreal nest]

saltzspyre, get in here

[near wasp]

They just want the truth out there so what if they have to skin babies to get there

[storm jungle]

Its one of the biggest things that I find obnoxious.

"They are humans so I relate to them" so you relate to literal space nazis who will just burn entire planets to the ground because they dont wanna be a part of space rome lol

[surreal nest]

THE ONLY SIN OF CHAOS WAS THEIR AMBITION

[late verge]

So based

[arctic talon]

Wdym, as a follower of chaos I’m a simple man trying to spread my religion

Ignore the screaming burning people

They’re fresh converts

[late verge]

They are not normal humans that is the entire point (im agreeing with you)

[surreal nest]

Sounds like the imperium to me

[storm jungle]

Yes. So making comparisons of any kind is pointless.

[surreal nest]

[opaque coyote]

Hey that's unfair.

You forgot about the Space Mongols

Literally there is a Primarch named after Genghis Khan like you cannot be more on the nose than that.

[near wasp]

I relate more to the necrons because I've sold my soul to the company store

[near wasp]

What's fucked up is he's one of the most reasonable

[humble shoal]

Yes, those planets deserved the night lords

[surreal nest]

I relate more to the slaves to darkness because I work in health care

[storm jungle]

I think you deserve the night lords

[opaque coyote]

I relate to Chaos because it's literally just late stage capitalism

[humble shoal]

If they get me they are definitely going to get all of us

[late verge]

I think I deserve the night lords 🤤

[storm jungle]

[full obsidian]

how is chaos capitalist i would genuinely like you to explain this

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

Can we change tyrants name to skin cape

[celest dome]

I fully agree with Cities and Stormcast players when they say that they're playing good factions, but Imperium and Admech faction are evil and deserve to be gutted

[late verge]

Idk ig ur right

[arctic talon]

Okay but I like admech because they’re evil

[storm jungle]

AAAUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHH

[arctic talon]

Lobotomize all people

[humble shoal]

This

[late verge]

"You should never grade evils, kroobah, for if there is a worst you might be tended to kinship with the least" n all that

[surreal nest]

it was a shock for me to discover that Age of Sigmar had inherently good factions

[celest dome]

Oh for sure, favourite of mine, still a bunch of dicks

[late verge]

What? I admitted I was wrong

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/phenomaman-dispatch-dispatch-game-ravannacries-gif-6337929989348324760

[surreal nest]

deploying taser

[humble shoal]

Dilara needs vitriol

[late verge]

Wh-what

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-piggy-yoink-grab-mine-gif-9061225795220341106

[storm jungle]

Im gonna make you chug some gasoline

[humble shoal]

Ok

[late verge]

Saltzpyre is a cock obviously but he was spitting here

[humble shoal]

2 NULN REGIMENTS... EEEEELF

[storm jungle]

[near wasp]

Honestly saltz is pretty reasonable given his job

[late verge]

POGGAH'S BRIDGE?!

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Saltz is like one of the nicest witch hunters we’ve seen

lol

[humble shoal]

Saltz by 2 is pretty chill tbh

Even says hell help sienne with her trial

[late verge]

All the ubersreik 5 are antiheroes imo

[humble shoal]

Except for krubah

[arctic talon]

Only Kerellian

And saltz

The others are pretty good people

lol

Kerellian by wood elf standards is a saint

[humble shoal]

The dawi is also pretty chill for a dawi

[celest dome]

Still try to kill her when they found her as a Necromancer (which he wasn't wrong for)

[late verge]

Theyre all very flawed and somewhat dickish but theyre all good people at heart who want the best for their people and for the world

[celest dome]

Damn still salty about that

[humble shoal]

Didnt saltz grab sienna for burning a bunch of people alive?

[arctic talon]

No

She burned a building down

[humble shoal]

Ah

I need to play 1

[arctic talon]

Now granted

[sacred ginkgo]

Wasn't it close to an entire quarter

[arctic talon]

Sienna has murdered people before

But she wasn’t arrested for murder

💀

[arctic talon]

Yes

lol

[humble shoal]

Like the old man who liked to beat young girls with sticks

[surreal nest]

You can be a hero with a record

[arctic talon]

It’s a miracle she didn’t kill anyone

[late verge]

40k is a morally black political horror story dystopian grimdark nightmare and fantasy is more like spicy lord of the rings

[late verge]

I agree i think

[arctic talon]

Ultimately the ubersreik 5 are good people at heart

[sacred ginkgo]

I wouldn't call kruber an anti hero though

[arctic talon]

He isn’t

[late verge]

Eh fair enough

[sacred ginkgo]

He's just a good guy