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Doubt we will see 4th personalities for classes that have 2 genders
They're less needed
If we get another 1 gender class, now I think we would expect there to be 4 personalities
Techie probably
Admech having 1 gender would be strange
Hell, could see them have 3 
M, F, Robot
Or heavy "augmented"
Is the new ogryn personality free
Yes it would be a bit silly if it's not free
I mean would it? Alot of followers of the machine forsake there gender because it's not relevant
It'll either be 1 or 3
It'll probably just be 2
Having augments be tied to cosmetics.
The only thing I would hope is always having some sort of shoulder coat, and having the hands always be augments
I can imagine there's actually a lot, but we won't ever know.
So that they can have hidden Chord Claw as a melee weapon
Very funny
There’s still those that care about their gender and those that don’t
The mechanicus are varied
Most lower ranked Admech still have a base gender, it's mostly their augments that make them appear genderless, which won't be strange if you have the voice changing masks and obscuring cloaks
I mean if they all have voice changers would there be any difference between genders voices anyways
But that aside, I can imagine there are definitely some Admechs who are non-binary in general
There are, cawl points this out in genefather
Nnneat
There are some known trans Tech Priests
Neat (2x)
There are yeah
We didn't get the Arbites ones until months afterwards
Gonna be betting it's the same here
Im pretty sure content creators got the file for it as they use it in their vids
So its out there. Just not with me. And i NEED it!
I beg of thee! (thank you!)
thank me if it actually works 😭

Theme for day 1 of Hive Scum: https://youtu.be/tsfnuyyjaB0?list=RDtsfnuyyjaB0
smoke crack and cocaine
Yes please.
Did you guys see the leak for the new ogryn personality?
Voiced by Tim Bentinck, the voice of Victor Saltzpyre, the Heavy is a loud and aggressive Ogryn with extensive working experience among the cartels as gang muscle. Now he's lending his formidable brawn to Grendyl's warband together with the Hive Scum coming December 2nd.
This was an unexpected surprise. Sorry for the short video, but this was o...
It's not a leak it's a thing
Coming to December 2
Need a 40k version of this meme
"I use real skin on my Night Lords models"
TAU IS OKAY
Ngl that's actually a great modeling idea for them
With leather or pigskin
Most of the dedicated skinned flesh heads just get really good with green stuff
IS THAT THE FUCKING DRILLER DRG VA?
We live in a society
Your mom is literally in the title
Every dwarf in DRG is the same voice actor besides mission control
They just pitch shift the lines
Makes sense
"I use real blood to paint my World Eaters..."
ELDAR ARE OKAY
Aware
I paint my slaneshi with- shot for heresy
Tbh purple cannot be gotten from that substance
Unless if you have some REALLY strange condition
slaneshi models aren't all purple they have some pale shades
I find it funny that the Black Templars are 90% of the time fucking rabid.
But even when working with the chapters that go against their creed
They're fairly chill
Like they worked with the Raptor chapter fairly well despite them basically being "Reasonable Marines but canon"
Its even funnier when you realise this pic has 2 nazi black templar twitter uses
and my friend's famulous OC on the left
lmfao
Boheshithead on the right and some other fuckwad whos name i forgot whos the white dude with the short hair and beard
ON THE LEFT?? RRTGGGHHH
You said Black Templar user twice
LOL
its funny because i was like
"Argus why are you in a pic with 2 nazis"
and he just went"
"....the artist didnt tell me"

I thought they were being ironic
alas no, he legit had no idea lmao
kinda makes it even funnier
hes been immortalized in that gif
In the gif I sent?
Insert Horst-Wessel-Leid to the gif
💀
Very attractive, next



True, but the ECs are basically all purple
So
Fair
pink & black too
I mean you can also be lore accurate and just use skin
Man 40k peeps love skinning people
Human leather isn't even good
It's like D tier at best
...
Would T'au Leather be good considering they're based off of Bovines?

Like this is mostly a joke question but I genuinely have a morbid curiosity on whether making leather out of T'au skin would be as good as regular cow leather

Probably not as well because Tau are smaller and have thinner skin than cows
True.
Again, Seamstress Slaaneshi character sounds fun
If only because I'm now just imagining her criticizing how terrible human leather is
Like she's having an argument with a daemonette
"HUMAN LEATHER ISN'T DURABLE. IT IS AWFUL."
"BUT IT LOOKS SO GOOD!"
"NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PATCHWORK THOSE FUCKING NIGHT LORDS HAVE TO DO? IT LOOKS AWFUL."
All while a stitched together servent runs patches of various leathers around
You know what ork leather would probably be best
Yeah probably
Actually aren't Eldar like
Mostly muscle
With like 0 fat (somehow) in mass
Twisted muscle fibers too yeah
Would they have thick skin?
Ehhhh maybe
Race skinning tier list 💀
But them being so thin would also cause the same patch problem as human
True
Ogryns and orks and maybe even votaan
Given votanns more rotund status better sheets
This is by far one of the most fucked up convos I've had
This is right up there with somebody asking the nutritional value of corpse starch

And I replied with a picture of canned pork
Literally just SPAM
To be honest in general, Corpse starch is probably inefficient given that there's probably a lack of manpower to produce it in the first place
You'd have to be in the spot of
Having a lot of people die but still be able to manufacture
I mean you have to get rid of the bodies anyways so they are really just repurposing a waste product
Like how Cheetos were made
And Fanta
In uh...

Worst part is that I like Fanta
And I kinda want to try the original recipe
Out of sheer curiosity
Fanta was created because Hitler like cola and they couldn't import the syrup of cola so they created there own soda syrup out of various fruit
Probably similar to prison hooch without alcohol
Apparently they actually did rerelease the old recipe for a limited time in 2015 for Germany
And the advertising was uh
"And to celebrate this, we are bringing back the feeling of the Good Old Times with new Fanta classic!"
Actually said in the commercial btw
In Germany
For Fanta's 75th anniversary

Yikes
Still kinda want to try it out of curiosity
Also fun fact, Fanta was exempt from the sugar rationing at the time
So it was the sweetest thing on the market
People bought it not only to drink but...
Didn't know about the Nazi stuff
to use it as replacement for sugar when they're cooking
yeah its his pfp templar
People used cola for that same reason
bohemond is the guy that does nothing but tweet chud shit like 50 times a day
guy has a huge following
Yeah that's also how I learned that the food made with Nuka cola as an ingredient in Fallout wasn't just something wacky
And based on something that can actually be done
Using Coca Cola or Fanta for cooking sounds fucking nasty though
Never done soda cooking myself so idk
Many such cases. One day the Roman statues will transform into statues of black templars
Also I tried the official cookbook version of Nuka Cola once
...
Actually tasted pretty good
Very fruity
(obviously)
And probably still healthier than actual coca cola
For accurate results
Leave out for 200 years and add radiation
I know Greek/Roman statues were originally colored
But I legit cannot imagine them colored

Fucking wat
By colored I mean like painted over.
They all originally were painted with actual colors
It just faded away because well
Time
Hundreds of years moment
Apparently this is how some would have looked back then
...
Yeah it was better without the color
Augustus up there looks pretty bad, the painted ones below look a bit better
Auguestus looks like a fuck boy
Color didn't exist back then
I was able to preorder darkwater thru my local game store
Of course we will never fully know since this is a recreation based on the remnants of pigments
So it probably looked better
probably

probably
Not even a scrap of purple must be made by the poors
Does anybody know if GW stocks the Christmas battleforce boxes for LGS or even on their own shelves
I feel like its unofficially online only
all LGS's, their own stores, online stores and their website
tldr its a total clusterfuck
distrubution wise
No way? Ive never ever seen a Christmas battleforce box in person
Only ever preorder pickup
I was really hoping to get these guys
There's an LGS near me that had like
4 one year 💀
but it depends wildly
you're gona have to get on your knees and pray
Was that LGS mainly warhammer?
this was made after someone claimed to be an expert on lore, refused to cite a source saying a youtuber said it, said something racist and then got banned 💀
10/10
i'm sorry they didn't
hahahahaha
whew okay

close call
Degree in misinfo from shorts tech
I love posting misinformation it keeps the opps on there toes
How much was blackstone
150$ but it was a smaller box
Reading this bit from the meme above has painfully reminded me that 99% of all warhammer memes i see on the internet are so unfunny that it hurts. But then again, if i was to win an award it would be the biggest complainer award, so i could just be being a scrooge here.
omg he is fucking SCOTISH
All Warhammer memes are the same 5 jokes from ten years ago
Im so excited
When does darkwater drop?
Yes I signed up for preorder without looking into it in any way
Can't wait to wear my I'm ultra mad shirt to work
warhammers was a mistake
I have decided to join the war on misinformation.
On the side of misinformation.
What if the missile launcher had an option to be dual wielded?
This I imagine
Funny enough, most shoulder fired launchers have very little recoil
Morning
Was hoping to squeeze in a meeting for Sunday afternoon but nobody is biting yet
Wee bit annoyed but whatever
I'm sure the disposable rocket launcher wielded by the lowest class of society in a sci fi universe is as safe as real life
Well safety and recoil aren't mutual
Idk
It looks fucked up
Also I love your implication that standard issue guard weaponry isnt dogshit
It looks so cool though
Do we even have a guardsman model with a rocket launcher
The shitzooka
Wonder why they didnt give us a new rocket launcher model
Mordian iron guard getting ready for 2fort
If god had wanted you to live he would not have created me
Can we talk about those valhallan faces
No.
OLD MINIS CAN STILL LOOK GOOD
Honestly, I wonder if it work as a melee weapon.
The steel legion and tallarn look fine you DEMON.
Old GW minis give me charlie brown vibes
Idk why
👎
Destroy this man
Whiny uncs will look at this shit and say its better than the current models
To be fair
Its pretty fire
But its not better
Wait a minute. Isn't there a SOB unit that has dual wielding flamers?
On the Kardashev Scale, where is the Imperium at?
I want to ask Eldar also, but they kinda aren't an empire anymore
I would consider the Imperium itself a very late Type 1 Civilization, considering how they can't capitalize all the energy of a star system.
Nor do they commonly use dyson spheres.
DAoT Humanity with be Type 2 with how they harness stars for energy
Remember that the Kardashev scale works on energy consumption.
Type 1 would be the energy of an entire planet is fully used
Type 2 would be the energy of a star cam be fully used
Type 3 would be the energy of every star in the galaxy
Considering the Imperium doesn't use stars for it's main power, and instead fuels from planets. They would be a very late Type 1
the IoM is a mix of type 1 and type 2 afaik
some places are type 2 like some admech controlled systems
the rest are type 1
still though can the admech use something similar to a dyson sphere?
seeing as "imperial worlds" are typically at the same level we are irl
there is a forge world that is literally a dyson sphere
I would say type 1 at minimum. Especially ones like Hive Cities.
They use ALL of the resources of the planet, to the point where it's a shithole to live in
ofc
Tvtropes has some fun ideas about that, I think it put Imperium and Eldar at a low 2 or something. I'm not sure it's a good scale for 40k though
Yeah, I would say that the Admech themselves are low Type 2, and the IoM itself is Type 1.
imperial world is just a catch all term for the worlds that arent specialized
I would definitely put DAoT humanity, for like... the few tidbits that we have
as middle Type 2
yeah
I would say the Deldar are Type 2 also. Considering they literally steal suns
But the Craftworld eldar are uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
They don't
like I don't think the Kardeshev scale considers mystical space magic

the scale cant account for something like a craftworld yeah
yeah and their power at that stage was typical of a type 3, meaning they where near gods next to the rest of the galaxy
And still would be, just most of their territory is either gone or
they're just
honk mimimimi
The Tyranids would be considered type 1 by default given that they consume planets.
Older lore even has them eat the core.
But again, Kardeshev scale has a hard time with hungry space lobsters
We don't have them eat stars right?
the votaan would be type 2 i think
ofc i dont know much about how they power their civilization and same for the tau
both of them seem like they would be in the type 2 range
It's weird to think that there is a case for the Tyranids basically paying taxes.
Never ask the Imperial players where they live
Lmfao
I decided to relisten to the trial of belisauris and this always kills me
Could an Orgyn use an assault cannon, if it were given to them?
Probably. But they'd never be given one.
How to buy hive ganger early and play
Tell me how
I get home December 2nd and can't wait longer than immediately right now
Lit glasses but those look like they hurt to wear
Oh my god
"YOU SANCTIONED THIS RIGHT?"
"Yeah"
"YOU MADE THE PRIMARIS RIGHT?"
"Yeah"
"SO YOU INVENTED SOMETHING?"
"Nuh uh"
Tbf for Cawl's point. All of his stuff technically isn't new.
It's like...
How the current iPhone version and the one a year earlier is

Tbf he does have the ultimate get out of jail free card
"the emperor told me to do it"
Also I find it funny that
Cawl made an AI copy of Guilliman
And said AI copy pointed out that
He knows he is an AI copy since if Roboute ever ACTUALLY found out
He would've turned Cawl into crushed tin
And the fact that he isn't blindingly angry currently means that he's an AI copy as a result

Roboute definitely knows but I think he's intentionally looking away
Because like
Cawl literally is helping him atm
Better keep him around
I'm gonna hate when they kill or corrupt cawl so that they can keep the setting stagnant
The only way that would happen is if they're doing another paradigm shift
Like
End time level
Isn't Cawl inferior doing shit that Cawl doesn't want done.
Yeah but in general Cawl took 10k years to make the primaris
I think Cawl being alive or dead doesn't really matter if you want to keep the setting stagnant
I more mean like him trying to close the great rift
Do you think Rannick might resort to hiring blood axes?
Would anyone want to play as Blood Axes?
The answer is yes

But as for if he's desperate enough
Tbh if you ever get to the point where you're genuinely considering hiring Orks
Yes but they'd probably just get rotor cannons
cawl inferior is something worse lol
Okay. So question for all!
Things are FUCKED if that happens
its technically his cloned brains along with copies of his memory
and other shit mashed together
Blood Axes or Tech priest as the next class?
Kroot Mercenary
They can keep him around, just have his inventions slow down
tbh
That's a good idea.
Cawl could decide to start playing the political game to cause a paradigm shift to an extent
lol
Actually, have we gotten voidsmen as a skin for the rejects?
Honestly the cawl inferior the one with political asperactions
We've gotten Dynasty ones
yeah Cawl inferior developed differently from Cawl's brain
somehow
Cawl should probably check on that
He's too busy
but Cawl doesn't need to die/get corrupted for technology to remain stagnant
I'd like to remind everyone that all the primaris stuff
was made over 10,000 years
And he was copying other tech priests as well
Rotor Cannon for Veteran please
his knowledge of necron tech is limited
its pretty much what little info he's gotten himself + trazyn's info
It will probably be a voidsmen class.
he hasn't made some shit as insane as some xenarites we've seen in universe
With the option to spec into naval breachers.
Cawl isn't a true xenarite
Ngl, if a Voidsman is ever added. It'll probably a variant similar to Vermintide 2
And how the classes have like different variants asw
They did skilltrees to avoid careers iirc
What, like the dlc you can get for characters?
Careers basically yeah
Actually
Aren't there voidsmen cosmetics already?
I would what they would add for the other 3 remaining base rejects as dlc career options.
yeah there's voidsmen at arms cosmetics yeah
How would you expand the zealot, psyker and Orgyn with 4th skill tree.
Would you be fine with rotor cannon for vet, if it meant you couldn't move?
Like how the minigun in the upcoming HD2 warbond is going to work.
Lore nerds, i am once again asking for your knowledge
I would be fine if it was slowed movement
Like TF2
spit
Are there any hive gangs that dress like clowns?
probably, but not explictly.
one of the noble houses in Munda do have members who dress like clowns tho
and sometimes those members work alongside the clan house gangs
Hmmmm
I just realised, they could give the hive scum a shotgun and a las pistol, like that voidsmen from the rogue trader kill team.
Technically gangers
lol
the same way Enforcers are gangers in Munda
Doink the Clown and Dr. Rockzo are a possibility then, thank you
though the mindfrayed in Munda isn't an actual noble
its just some random person the nobles kidnap
torture
and drive insane
then they get used as basicially a hunting hound
lol
Dual wield?
Yes.
Shotgun for short, laspistol for longer.
Or as I posted earlier, dual shotguns.
yes but no
dual wield weapons in 40k for normal humans both need to be pistols mechanically
or both be normal guns
lol
So this guy can't use both at the same time then?
yes
He can use the shotgun or the pistol during a shooting phase
and in lore he def couldn't fire both at once
Damn.
I mean
Even ignoring game mechanics
He
Needs to pump the shotgun

What chapter are the Carcharodons successors of?
Raven Guard
Isn’t there theories that they’re actually successors of a traitor chapter?
Gravity
But yes
back when they were first introduced in Badab some people thought they were NL
but the Heresy blackbooks pretty much killed off that theory entierly
and then the Carchs own books buried it
and then GW killed it in 8e with the RG codex supplement

carchs are just pre Corax RG
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What chapter has the coolest successors that really diversify the identity of the chapter?
Ultramarines

Booooo
Tbf, 106 is built different
but no other chapter has a sucessor that likes skinning people
But fair enough
I really like Rogal Dorn and the idea of defense but…
and another thats literally condemmed for warcrimes
Dorn's sucessors are all really fucking close to the parent chapter
lol
Aside from the BT
who are just the templar bretheren
BT are basically they’re own thing
also Sons of the Phoenix as well
who share a lot in common with the templar bretheren
but they're primaris sucessors
but yeah the Libators are uh
a sucessor of the Ultramarines
who face censure
for what they do to their captives
I would like to note they like drinking blood
Who’s the Lamentors successors of again? IF or Salamanders?
and offering blood to Guilliman
I wonder if we'll have a rainbow of templar chapters.
Lamenters are a blood angels sucessor
Blood Angels
We got white, red and black templars
lol
also silver
They were fucked from the beginning
We got red, white, black and siler so fair.
BLOOD ANGELS???
Red and Black are both IF sucessors
White were but they found out they weren't recently
Yeah supposedly they were immune to things like the black rage
...
Stop trying to assign stereotypes to sucessors smh my head
Until it turns out they weren't
but yeah the Lamenters are Blood angel sucessors
or as Seth puts it in a very seth way
We just need blue, yellow, green and other colours of the spectrum.
A puddle of piss in a sea of blood
Green Templars are just the Dark Angels let’s be honest here
Like that and the warp drive failing are like two instances of just
Fate giving them a middle figure

Honestly
the lamenters make a lot of stupid decisions
but they got screwed over twice
How about this: The Magenta Templars.
which was the "cure" failing
and then the Warp drive failure incident
lol
Badab they dug their own grave and sat in it
they didn't even tap out early like the rest of the traitors
they were in it to win it
They are both stupid and unlucky essentially
Wait does each Primarch have a title or epithet to them?
"Welp in for a penny, in for a pounding"
Is Fulgrim’s seriously “The Phoenician”?
a lot of people in 40k have a title or epithet
I know Perty is The Lord of Iron
Just call him fucking Lucifer at this point lmao
alan bligh knows writers who use subtext
they're all fucking cowards
So what is exactly up with Knight houses? Are they their own thing like how we have the Astra Militarum and Soace Marines?
Knight Houses are their own thing organizationally though some are way more heavily connected to the Mechanicus then others
House Mechanicuses are more tied to the Mechanicus lore wise
But some House Mechanicuses are insanely tied to a forge world
while others are just lightly connected
Houses Imperialis are more independent
have there even been situations where say
the mechanicus wanted a house to be House Mechanicus
instead of House Imperialis?
No
or any other sort of political shit
There's way more House Mechanicus's anyways
Ryza has 3 situated on their forgeworld
which yes this means there's hoity toity nobles on Ryza alongside tech priests
lol
even if their form of nobility is mechanicus coded
Generally its the Imperium that wants houses to flip
lol
the (formerly) largest knight house House Raven was offered up a lot to flip allegiences
Well that sounds like an interesting political type of thing
Kriegsmen best guardsmen
None compare!!!
sigma rizzler gas mask noises
Krieg > Cadia
black templar successor chapters rolling out like
Gonna have a HARD time reclaiming that
Are they supposed to represent spires or something
it's holy week in spain, no idea what the fuck any of it means, but it's a real "why should we stop? they're the ones who suck!" situation
personally i think catholicism should be stopped just in general, but you know
Also for anyone unaware, this is an outfit worn by Catholics in Italy for religious observances. NOT to be confused with the KKK outfit
we pick our battles
The KKK stole our drip because they're stupid and lame
Aren't they technically Spirer, for those specific one
Stopping those celebrations due to the KKK would be like asking all the Hindu to strike the Manji from their rituals
Yeah, its not our fault a buncha assholes decided to wear outfits similar to ours
And even then there's clear differences as well
Wonder why though
Maybe he doesnt want the admech overtaking the operation potentially?
Calling over Skitarii is basically like allowing another nation to assist in a war
where they will also want gains, requests, demands among other things
Dilara they gave us the nomad and streetkid origins for hive scum

Lmao I saw 
Ahh true true
Yeah dont forget Admech are so seperate from the Imperium that during the War of the Beast when Terra was under attack Mars tried to dip and teleport their planet away

They would demand all of Tertium's toasters
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Reminded me of this. The morons who were saying the reveal was bad because "its just a random regular ganger" are real quiet right now 
I mean compared to like
A Guardsman
It's still kinda low
But they probably had better conditions than the others tbh
I mean they're a high ranking cartel officer
Still funny how the current rejects are mostly "I am a loyal servant to the Emperor, I was mistakingly imprisoned"
The Arbites are "We failed to keep order, we must atone and amend the situation'
Meanwhile the Hive Ganger is like
GET OFF MY LAWN
"WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY DRUGS. I WAS PROMISED SLAUGHT FOR THIS."
The Guardsman and Arbites are the only ones with fully military training respectively.
I'm not quiet, it's still lame
Well yeah but you have to understand
Gangers can be so tough and used to fighting that space Marines recruit from them
Wouldn't that be the same for guardsmen from those tough planets though
Especially a Veteran
It's like adding a Pirate class, it's pretty much the same as the Veteran except the voice says "Yar" and "Matey"
Yeah which still make some pretty tough
Hive scum has to survive in a place where They are oppressed 24/7
Fair
Then again, I think the Zealot is technically the least skilled
They're just somebody who decided to grab a weapon and start purging heretics
Yes they are religious lunatics
They are still the least combat experience class in the game They makeup for it with a unbelievable zealotry and insanity
They literally murder 10 guardsmen in the trailer i think they'll be fine lol
yall mfers really need to read the shit gangers can do in the RPG lore
Also this.
they are prime space marine candidates for a reason
You're being generous by assuming the people complaining can read
It was the same shit with the arbites too
"erm this makes no sense"
"erm how can arbites do these things"
oh my god SHUT UP
😭
Rip bozo
So in general we have
Two people with actual official military training and experience (Veteran and Arbites).
One person who is a hardened criminal (Hive Ganger)
Two people who are basically insane crack addicts (Zealot and Psyker)
And finally
Ogryn.
The only crack addict is basically Seer
also all the ogryns got veterancy im pretty sure
Even without that They are natural born fighters
oh did fashslayer finally got the boot
Very easy to fight when you can break something in half with your punch
Loving the new ogryn btw
True.
Ogryns don't really get true official training.
Well besides "Please actually shoot the gun towards the enemies before bashing them with it"
Yea

But the Ogryns we play as are experienced for sure
Yeah they did lol
guy was an uppity little shitheel
also got reported for some political stuff in genchat
Oh no
so another mod gave em the boot after i timed em out

lol
lmao
He also like openly insulted me 3 times
which i didnt care about
but uhhh good material for the report
lol
Hey, it makes perfect sense for the Inquisition to recruit local gangers in this situation, I just think it's kinda lame.
you're lame

Definitely made it easier to make the decision
Most of the water cartel were killed off or joined the cult right?
Imagine if the Imperium made drug PSAs
Like DARE level drug PSAs
Honestly wouldn't even be far off considering some of them
Captain Lou - in partial Mario getup - implores kids not to use drugs. It's a very passionate and strong speech that seems like it was recorded in a spare room with bad acoustics.
I'm also not sure whether the bouncy kids music fits here.
"And if you do drugs, you will go to hell before you die"
Thank you Mario
So, if we're predetermined to go to hell,.there are no new downsides to drugs
Gonna go do drugs
LMAO
W
Gen chat is like the low level hive spire.
Are the leagues of votan sperate from the squats? Or are squats still a thing on some human worlds?
Are squats even cannon?
They're different groups but are the same subspecies
Squats basically are the name for any Kin that live inside of the Imperium.
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- For marketing reasons the entire race of the squats have been dubbed as the Leagues of Votann (after the big AI coreframes that build/help their civilization) with the League part being the commercial megacorp-esque conclaves and nations in space they run which is actually a thing from old lore. The Votann refere to themselves generally as The Kin. The term "squat" is still a thing but its treated more as an insult/slur by humans to them.
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- So basically the old squat lore is still somewhat canon just largely edited to make sense with the current 40k setting, so its why they got an aesthetic overhaul among other things as well as some bigger lore changes. They still have the thing of being original human colonists who settled in the galactic core that just kinda became dwarves but now they are so seperate from humanity + have become a clone race from the Ancestor Cores that create them, they still got a ton of individuality among other things but thats a topic you should read on your own.
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- The lore of the Nids also eating a great majority of their homeworlds in the core is also still there, it was just chalked up to poor imperial record keeping regarding what actually happened to them, they are still a proper galactic power to some extent but stick to their own devices, they are more numerous than Tau/Eldar but are below humanity in numbers
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- They are technically considered "xenos" due to being extremely seperated from humanity + a great majority of the Imperium also doesnt know their true origin but will hire them as mercs and other commerce related stuff, but obviously it changes from League to League on the matters of operation.
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- The Necromunda Votann are called "squats" by most people but they've adopted the name to some extent as well. They lost their Votann Core (the big AI ancestor box that micro-manages an entire League) during their first settlement into Munda so have devolved to reproducing the old fashioned way and founding an entire monopoly on their own behalf as dawi due, becoming a proper civilization on the planet that a lot of the Imperial hives/people rely on for prospecting and other big money grindsets
skitarii tomorrow

There was a thread on reddit today about what faction people would like to see, quite a few want thr Silent for AoS, which I have no feeling on, insect faction could work.
But still so many people want to see Skaven in 40k 💀
Dont skaven just fall under the "beastmen" category in 40k?
No because skaven dont exist in 40k
beastmen are mutants that carry some characteristic of cattle animals
Skaven are entirely their own species, they dont come from humans.
Rats are rats
Oh, its just cattle animals? I thought "beastmen" in 40k were just basically generic mutants that just so happen to be animal like.
Yeah its why every beastmen model is modelled after bull-like features.
Well yeah, but i imagine, if we were to get 40k skaven, theyd have totally seperate lore to fantasy ones.
Probably not. Orks are alien in origin in fantasy too, GW would do the same with them as skaven have no connection to humans in WHF.
Idk how id feel about an entire new faction in 40k that is just the skaven then. To me, it would be a bit weird. But it all falls under execution. I quite liked my headcannon of rat people falling under beastmen ngl.
Orcs and Orks in Warhammer literally have zero differenc aside from industrialism, GW always finds ways to execute the same ideas differently and people always like it so i wouldnt worry about it.
Making skaven beastmen is a very cheap and weird option i dont think anyone would like.
Yeah, fair enough. I tend to carry the unpopular opinions anyways lol.
Also, idk if it was people in this chat that didnt like FlashGitz but I quite like their sort of slop content they do and i like spaceking. But in their recent video, they agreed with the people that said that that new space marine heads box looks "female" which made me go: 😐
Least surprising thing I ever read
it's just juvenile humor
I knew it was only a matter of time until that guy lost it
LOL
Just to clarify, i obviously still like them but that space marine female head "situation" irritated me for some reason. I personally see how you can think that the heads were painted weird and that they look a bit odd. But saying they have "female" features and that gw is trying to force some agenda or whatever, is dumb imo.
The thing is Flashgitz are Schrodingers Chuds
where the parody is so irony poisoned that even if they were serious you’d never be able to tell. These guys very obviously do not like the modern state of 40k lol. Doesnt help that they also knowingly appeal to the chuddiest portion of the fanbase.
They were making offensive, transphobic and racist content for almost two decades way back, so what you said isnt really shocking to me
ngl the space marine "female head" drama is what convinced me that im done with 40k as a hobby
Its the perfect example of how the vocal surface of this fandom will bitch about anything.
if you say any shit like that in age of sigmar communities you will get stoned to death
I hate censorbot
but AoS also doesnt have that problem cuz women are allowed to be important players in the lore!
Just enjoy your little space, the fandom is just plain stupid
i think its so funny how bland 40k has gotten and yet these chuds think its like their little slice of heaven
the most corporified art form ever
They always did and still blame GW for "ruining" it.
40k has been at its most successful apex in decades lol
also yet these people complain like crazy whenever something new happens lol. Or even something they THINK is new
its why its funny when Flashgitz' merch video from a few weeks back was actively mocking this saying they wont "sell out" like "some companies" to appeal to a "wider audience"
when the entire reason they even made spaceking was because they were sellign 40k merch without consent and got caught red handed
THEIR VIDEOS ARE AS AVERAGE HUMOR WISE AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE WHAT
THEY ARE THE WIDE AUDIENCE
WHAT
oh my god its like a baseball player thinking his sport is niche
what the fuck
nobody has ever made a no girls allowed joke before
But anyway yeah people can like space king, its just that its very much a vehicle for chuds acting as "oh we are mocking the dumb part of the warhammer fanbase" while actively appealing to them
But i do believe flashgitz are more like drifter-chuds, where they very much do not care about this stuff while liking offensive things but being aware they will gain more traction by appealing to That™ part of the fanbase.
^ basically them rn
anyway thats my two cents, i gotta head out 
how do the fans not feel shame knowing they are basically just being hypnotized by hearing what they want to hear
jesus man
Nothing new under the sun, something about people liking being affirmed in their beliefs or something
Yeah, when i say i like spaceking, im not saying i like the fan stuff around it. Its definitely a chud breeding ground.
I disagree with this. from watching their slop channel, i still do believe that they are genuine guys.
Also, from looking back at some of their old videos, they made some very much transphobic stuff lol. And it didnt seem very tasteful either.
Not that this ever needs crosschecking but I just want to cross check anyways
Is it just me or do some women take the whole "turn things against men" argument just a bit too bitterly?
Like...I get that women should have a career and all, but then they say "Never ever lower your standards, never marry down!"
When relationships are...well...complex things that require compromise and a flexible approach (within acceptable, non-abuse situations of course) to communicate with each other?
They literally have made transphobic and sexist content in the past for years
theres nothing "genuine" about them
they are chuds who just bandwagon on stuff for clout/money, and its a good tactic so it works quite well
I am just surprised they haven't gotten the hammer for using Flash Gitz the term
GW could take them for naming/brand confusion if they really wanted
They did ge tthe hammer for using black templars for merch so thats probably close enough lol
I dont like flashgitz but I do think space king is funny if you read it as a parody of 40k and of the chud side of the fandom even if its not intended that way.
I just watch with an ad blocker just in case
I mean you say that yet like I said they also actively feed the chud part of the fanbase with shit like "no girls allowed", making fun of people who like female custodes and "no diversity is woke" shit constantly.
The thing is with the no girls allowed thing is that its like, yeah they can say its satire cause its so obviously childish but its also like. Glorified if that makes sense. I get what you mean.
Its like how /pol/ users will call themselves the r slur but its used as a term of pride as well
Again, Schrodingers Chuds
I did think that the b positive episode was funny tbh
I agree I'm just comemnting
its not that hard to detect when they have been doing bigoted content for like 15 years now
Yeah they are obviously just found their niche and are cynically milking it imo
Yeh
pretty much
My favourite martian song is https://youtu.be/KCR7ovEwtCA?si=h4IvZmKEHqlRQd6i
This version of 'Noosphere' by Guillaume David is a little different from the original, i wanted to put the part i prefer together. Enjoy !
Praise the omnissiah !
From the Warhammer 40k game 'Mechanicus'
Art: https://oniric-realms.tumblr.com/post/160327943468/james-martin
Considering getting some incense for when my computer acts up
Now I'm just imaging ray as a tech priest thanks

You can get an admech censar
Omg i need
Id start tweaking
One of my coworkers also just no called no show
Flash glitz is very much a large part of why people say my fave tall dark and handsome crusaders are Nazis and bigots
Apparently my coworker ran off with his girl friend after trashing his coworker/roommates bathroom
Partly with helping draw them to BT and partly just with general viewer opinion
🫡
Space marine players be like “black Templars are the racist chapter” like Mf every chapter is the racist chapter.
It is the sole purpose of their creation
to be fair
Black Templars are like THE racist-of-racists
lol
thats usually what they mean
Even more than the red scorpions?
Yes.
I’d say no
But red scorpions are legit the genetic purity dudes
we barely see Red Scorps do anything regarding eugenics.
BTs meanwhile have literally purged entire populations in the middle of a war lol
We had our reasons alright
Battle Cry: Strength in Purity!
Legit nazi what’s the word
Shit Dilara help me out
Huh. They also believe that the emperor is a god.
He is a god tho
Most of the imperium do
Wait wait no how can the black templars be racist?
They're black
So how can they be racist??
lmao
People just hate Black Templars because they are black
I notice no one hates on the WHITE Templars
I need uncle ruckas in a white Templar armor
Isn't it rarer for SM chapters to believe he is a god?
Yeah it is
but like "FOR THE GOD-EMPEROR" sounds better in marketing
That’s because there’s over 1000 chapters
but most space marine lore makes an effort to acknowledge that Chapters believing the Emperor is a god is usually a taboo or "weird" thing
Rogal Dorns line for example is the line which produces over the average Imperial Cult chapters
His is legit
9-9 cult-truth
The rest of his line are unknown ideology
It’s rarer because there’s so many chapters but it very much is still a thing among chapters
basically the writers just forget to explain it or just act like Chapters accepting hes a god is more the norm
This is post heresy yeah
Yes
no chapter in 40k follows the imperial truth, it died with the heresy, all they do is view the emperor as a father figure/inspirational leader
Chapters were different pre heresy chapters were still in their legions. Chapters post heresy are detached from their previous legions.
I feel like ultima founding chapters are more likely to worship the emperor
Chapters who view him as god will most likely jump up if Rogal returns
Considering the last time he was chronically seen he believed his father was a god.
@storm jungle correct me if I’m wrong but i believe guilliman has also began debating the facts and decided even if his father is a god he doesn’t deserve to be worshipped
In the books he sat down and fully read the Lectitio Divinitatus
Yeah so I think in current day the imperial truth is more a leftover thing from heresy and not mandatory anymore meanwhile the imperial creed is taking over.
I can’t see lion accepting the imperial cult though
He was the most loyal but also the most against worship
afaik the truth was deemed heresy by the cult
He deals with it
Well shit
yeah its full on outlawed
He'd rather himself be worshipped than humans finding something else to worship
So then yeah I agree with whoever said ultima and going forward foundings will be imperial cult
ofc
They are more likely to believe since they already believed big e was a god before being abducted
the SMs are in a grey zone with the creed because even though they dont worship him as god most of the time they do venerate him in their own way
Yes
plus the cult cant afford to force the marines into compliance
Of course
It’s not worth making enemies with the first foundings or even second foundings
yup
Same reason the inquisition retreated from killing off the celestial lions when helbrecht declared support for the lions.
Also war of shame
That’s a tough one
Them thinking grey knights would mop the floor with SW did make the exception to what we said before though
But I think the result of the months of shame has cemented going after first or second foundings is just a bad idea.
hell the ecclisiarchy literally invaded fenris 3 times
got their asses beat all 3 times and just said "fuck it"
Minotaurs are banned from all 500 worlds of ultramar
For attacking a 2nd founding ultramarine chapter
The ultramarine successors collectively put notice on the Minotaurs that if they enter ultramar they’ll be exterminated.
I still find it funny that the lamentors are still alive because the minotaurs vouced for them
They still killed their new chapter master

Pretty sure minotaurs vouced for lamentars following the bagdab war because they saw how well they fought and thought Itd be a waste to get rid of them
Im pretty sure thats not true.
The only thing Minos did was take claim of Lamenters equipment and just drag them for sentencing to the gathering.
the Minotaurs have no sense of honor, they just do what they are told.
You might be possibly mixing up the Salamanders vouching for the Executioners.
Shush you I'll vent nurgles garden into your cubicle
Ah yes the black sheep of the Dorn family

Dilara they conjure demons and let them posess them, dorn geneseed must have been going through some stuff at their founding
Lol
Goddamn bruh
those 142k likes are deserved

why are people so good bro
TRUE
Bro every fandom pretty much sucks
not bg3 or dispatch
It's very rare that they dont
helps that its not a fandom about a space fascist empire teehee
I mean
id prefer ones that dont have nazis making up half of it

And yet you remain


