#40k-lore-chat

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rocky gale
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I suppose there is variation between the different gender versions of the same personality

celest dome
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Doubt we will see 4th personalities for classes that have 2 genders

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They're less needed

celest dome
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If we get another 1 gender class, now I think we would expect there to be 4 personalities

near wasp
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Techie probably

celest dome
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Admech having 1 gender would be strange

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Hell, could see them have 3 KEKW_ogryn

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M, F, Robot

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Or heavy "augmented"

arctic talon
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Is the new ogryn personality free

arctic talon
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lol

queen laurel
near wasp
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I mean would it? Alot of followers of the machine forsake there gender because it's not relevant

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It'll either be 1 or 3

celest dome
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It'll probably just be 2

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Having augments be tied to cosmetics.

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The only thing I would hope is always having some sort of shoulder coat, and having the hands always be augments

opaque coyote
celest dome
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So that they can have hidden Chord Claw as a melee weapon

opaque coyote
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I guess most are like

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Non binary

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Which

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Is ironic considering...

near wasp
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Very funny

arctic talon
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The mechanicus are varied

celest dome
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Most lower ranked Admech still have a base gender, it's mostly their augments that make them appear genderless, which won't be strange if you have the voice changing masks and obscuring cloaks

near wasp
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I mean if they all have voice changers would there be any difference between genders voices anyways

opaque coyote
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But that aside, I can imagine there are definitely some Admechs who are non-binary in general

near wasp
opaque coyote
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Nnneat

celest dome
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There are some known trans Tech Priests

opaque coyote
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Neat (2x)

languid meadow
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We didn't get the Arbites ones until months afterwards

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Gonna be betting it's the same here

wintry scarab
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So its out there. Just not with me. And i NEED it!

storm jungle
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try asking Frip in DMs

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maybe he has some

wintry scarab
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I beg of thee! (thank you!)

storm jungle
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thank me if it actually works 😭

wintry scarab
west pendant
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smoke crack and cocaine

valid needle
lament shoal
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Did you guys see the leak for the new ogryn personality?

queen laurel
# lament shoal Did you guys see the leak for the new ogryn personality?

Voiced by Tim Bentinck, the voice of Victor Saltzpyre, the Heavy is a loud and aggressive Ogryn with extensive working experience among the cartels as gang muscle. Now he's lending his formidable brawn to Grendyl's warband together with the Hive Scum coming December 2nd.

This was an unexpected surprise. Sorry for the short video, but this was o...

▶ Play video
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It's not a leak it's a thing

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Coming to December 2

lament shoal
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Oh sick it's dropping with hive scum

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I actually really like this one lol

opaque coyote
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Need a 40k version of this meme

storm jungle
paper haven
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"I use real skin on my Night Lords models"

TAU IS OKAY

lament shoal
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With leather or pigskin

paper haven
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I sort of assumed Night Lords players already used real skin

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Imagine my surprise

arctic talon
daring creek
sacred ginkgo
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No

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Its saltzpyre

daring creek
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We live in a society

sacred ginkgo
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It literally says it in the title

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Also

daring creek
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Your mom is literally in the title

sacred ginkgo
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Every dwarf in DRG is the same voice actor besides mission control

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They just pitch shift the lines

daring creek
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Makes sense

opaque coyote
sacred ginkgo
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Blood isn't good for paint

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It dries brown

opaque coyote
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ELDAR ARE OKAY

opaque coyote
near wasp
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I paint my slaneshi with- shot for heresy

opaque coyote
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Unless if you have some REALLY strange condition

near wasp
opaque coyote
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They're fairly chill

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Like they worked with the Raptor chapter fairly well despite them basically being "Reasonable Marines but canon"

storm jungle
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and my friend's famulous OC on the left

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lmfao

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Boheshithead on the right and some other fuckwad whos name i forgot whos the white dude with the short hair and beard

opaque coyote
paper haven
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You said Black Templar user twice

storm jungle
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LOL

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its funny because i was like

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"Argus why are you in a pic with 2 nazis"

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and he just went"

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"....the artist didnt tell me"

paper haven
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I thought they were being ironic

storm jungle
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alas no, he legit had no idea lmao

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kinda makes it even funnier

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hes been immortalized in that gif

paper haven
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In the gif I sent?

storm jungle
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yep

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his OC is the famulous chick way on the left facepalming

opaque coyote
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💀

near wasp
storm jungle
storm jungle
near wasp
opaque coyote
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So

hallow saddle
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pink & black too

opaque coyote
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I mean you can also be lore accurate and just use skin

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Man 40k peeps love skinning people

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Human leather isn't even good

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It's like D tier at best

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...

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Would T'au Leather be good considering they're based off of Bovines?

near wasp
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It's only really good for books and even then it sucks sometimes

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I mean human leather

opaque coyote
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Like this is mostly a joke question but I genuinely have a morbid curiosity on whether making leather out of T'au skin would be as good as regular cow leather

near wasp
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Probably not as well because Tau are smaller and have thinner skin than cows

opaque coyote
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True.

opaque coyote
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If only because I'm now just imagining her criticizing how terrible human leather is

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Like she's having an argument with a daemonette

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"HUMAN LEATHER ISN'T DURABLE. IT IS AWFUL."

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"BUT IT LOOKS SO GOOD!"

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"NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PATCHWORK THOSE FUCKING NIGHT LORDS HAVE TO DO? IT LOOKS AWFUL."

near wasp
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All while a stitched together servent runs patches of various leathers around

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You know what ork leather would probably be best

opaque coyote
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Yeah probably

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Actually aren't Eldar like

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Mostly muscle

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With like 0 fat (somehow) in mass

near wasp
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Twisted muscle fibers too yeah

opaque coyote
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Would they have thick skin?

near wasp
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Ehhhh maybe

opaque coyote
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Race skinning tier list 💀

near wasp
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But them being so thin would also cause the same patch problem as human

opaque coyote
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True

near wasp
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Ogryns and orks and maybe even votaan

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Given votanns more rotund status better sheets

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This is by far one of the most fucked up convos I've had

opaque coyote
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Same

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...

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Average Slaaneshi Daemonette conversation

near wasp
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This is right up there with somebody asking the nutritional value of corpse starch

opaque coyote
near wasp
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And I replied with a picture of canned pork

opaque coyote
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Literally just SPAM

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To be honest in general, Corpse starch is probably inefficient given that there's probably a lack of manpower to produce it in the first place

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You'd have to be in the spot of

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Having a lot of people die but still be able to manufacture

near wasp
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I mean you have to get rid of the bodies anyways so they are really just repurposing a waste product

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Like how Cheetos were made

opaque coyote
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In uh...

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Worst part is that I like Fanta

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And I kinda want to try the original recipe

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Out of sheer curiosity

near wasp
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Fanta was created because Hitler like cola and they couldn't import the syrup of cola so they created there own soda syrup out of various fruit

opaque coyote
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Aware

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Again, still kinda curious on how the original recipe would taste LMAO

near wasp
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Probably similar to prison hooch without alcohol

opaque coyote
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And the advertising was uh

near wasp
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Oh boy

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Let me guess not to modern sensibilities

opaque coyote
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"And to celebrate this, we are bringing back the feeling of the Good Old Times with new Fanta classic!"

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Actually said in the commercial btw

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In Germany

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For Fanta's 75th anniversary

near wasp
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Yikes

opaque coyote
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Ah yes... The good old times

opaque coyote
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Also fun fact, Fanta was exempt from the sugar rationing at the time

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So it was the sweetest thing on the market

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People bought it not only to drink but...

paper haven
opaque coyote
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to use it as replacement for sugar when they're cooking

storm jungle
near wasp
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People used cola for that same reason

storm jungle
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bohemond is the guy that does nothing but tweet chud shit like 50 times a day

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guy has a huge following

opaque coyote
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And based on something that can actually be done

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Using Coca Cola or Fanta for cooking sounds fucking nasty though

near wasp
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Never done soda cooking myself so idk

paper haven
opaque coyote
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Also I tried the official cookbook version of Nuka Cola once

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Actually tasted pretty good

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Very fruity

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(obviously)

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And probably still healthier than actual coca cola

near wasp
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Probably

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I wish this hangover would go away tho fr

opaque coyote
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For accurate results

Leave out for 200 years and add radiation

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I know Greek/Roman statues were originally colored

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But I legit cannot imagine them colored

near wasp
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Fucking wat

opaque coyote
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It just faded away because well

near wasp
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Time

opaque coyote
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Hundreds of years moment

near wasp
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Couple thousand

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Speaking of rome

opaque coyote
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Apparently this is how some would have looked back then

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...

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Yeah it was better without the color

near wasp
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I agree

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Bare marble is just sexier

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In ck3 I'm doing a rome rebuild run

vagrant fox
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Augustus up there looks pretty bad, the painted ones below look a bit better

near wasp
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Auguestus looks like a fuck boy

paper haven
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Color didn't exist back then

surreal nest
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I was able to preorder darkwater thru my local game store

opaque coyote
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So it probably looked better

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probably

vagrant fox
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probably

near wasp
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Not even a scrap of purple must be made by the poors

arctic talon
surreal nest
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Does anybody know if GW stocks the Christmas battleforce boxes for LGS or even on their own shelves

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I feel like its unofficially online only

arctic talon
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tldr its a total clusterfuck

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distrubution wise

surreal nest
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No way? Ive never ever seen a Christmas battleforce box in person

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Only ever preorder pickup

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I was really hoping to get these guys

arctic talon
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4 one year 💀

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but it depends wildly

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you're gona have to get on your knees and pray

surreal nest
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Was that LGS mainly warhammer?

arctic talon
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no

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LGS was mixed Cardgames/generic nerd shit

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and also 40k stuff

surreal nest
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Damn

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Probably SoL my local game store is dying

arctic talon
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Someone on the 40k server made this lmao

storm jungle
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LMFAO

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pin worthy

storm jungle
arctic talon
# storm jungle pin worthy

this was made after someone claimed to be an expert on lore, refused to cite a source saying a youtuber said it, said something racist and then got banned 💀

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10/10

storm jungle
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HOLD ON.

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Did he have a space marine pfp

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this is CRITICAL

arctic talon
hallow saddle
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hahahahaha

storm jungle
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whew okay

arctic talon
storm jungle
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close call

languid meadow
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Degree in misinfo from shorts tech

storm jungle
near wasp
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I love posting misinformation it keeps the opps on there toes

sacred ginkgo
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How much was blackstone

arctic talon
wintry scarab
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Reading this bit from the meme above has painfully reminded me that 99% of all warhammer memes i see on the internet are so unfunny that it hurts. But then again, if i was to win an award it would be the biggest complainer award, so i could just be being a scrooge here.

plush mason
near wasp
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All Warhammer memes are the same 5 jokes from ten years ago

surreal nest
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When does darkwater drop?

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Yes I signed up for preorder without looking into it in any way

near wasp
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Can't wait to wear my I'm ultra mad shirt to work

paper haven
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I have decided to join the war on misinformation.
On the side of misinformation.

nocturne crest
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What if the missile launcher had an option to be dual wielded?

nocturne crest
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Nah, that's if it were shotguns.

paper haven
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Funny enough, most shoulder fired launchers have very little recoil

raven stone
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Morning

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Was hoping to squeeze in a meeting for Sunday afternoon but nobody is biting yet

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Wee bit annoyed but whatever

surreal nest
sacred ginkgo
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Its probably stolen

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So it'd be guard standard grade

paper haven
surreal nest
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It looks fucked up

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Also I love your implication that standard issue guard weaponry isnt dogshit

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It looks so cool though

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Do we even have a guardsman model with a rocket launcher

storm jungle
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Yeah we do

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absolutely devious

surreal nest
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Wonder why they didnt give us a new rocket launcher model

humble shoal
storm jungle
surreal nest
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If god had wanted you to live he would not have created me

surreal nest
storm jungle
surreal nest
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Were they experimenting with a robot chicken style

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Like what the fuck

storm jungle
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its old minis you fuck

surreal nest
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OLD MINIS CAN STILL LOOK GOOD

storm jungle
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THE TECH WASNT AS GOOD BACK THEN

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AND NO THEY CANT

nocturne crest
surreal nest
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Old GW minis give me charlie brown vibes

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Idk why

surreal nest
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Its just so bad

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Eavy metal more like light plastic or some shit

vagrant fox
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Destroy this man

lament shoal
surreal nest
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Its pretty fire

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But its not better

nocturne crest
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Wait a minute. Isn't there a SOB unit that has dual wielding flamers?

opaque coyote
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On the Kardashev Scale, where is the Imperium at?

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I want to ask Eldar also, but they kinda aren't an empire anymore

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I would consider the Imperium itself a very late Type 1 Civilization, considering how they can't capitalize all the energy of a star system.

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Nor do they commonly use dyson spheres.

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DAoT Humanity with be Type 2 with how they harness stars for energy

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Remember that the Kardashev scale works on energy consumption.

Type 1 would be the energy of an entire planet is fully used

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Type 2 would be the energy of a star cam be fully used

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Type 3 would be the energy of every star in the galaxy

opaque coyote
plush mason
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the IoM is a mix of type 1 and type 2 afaik

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some places are type 2 like some admech controlled systems

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the rest are type 1

opaque coyote
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True, since the Imperium isn't consistent

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feudal world moments

plush mason
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yup

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they have a lot of type 0s too

opaque coyote
plush mason
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seeing as "imperial worlds" are typically at the same level we are irl

plush mason
opaque coyote
plush mason
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ofc

vagrant fox
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Tvtropes has some fun ideas about that, I think it put Imperium and Eldar at a low 2 or something. I'm not sure it's a good scale for 40k though

opaque coyote
plush mason
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imperial world is just a catch all term for the worlds that arent specialized

opaque coyote
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I would definitely put DAoT humanity, for like... the few tidbits that we have

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as middle Type 2

plush mason
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yeah

opaque coyote
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I would say the Deldar are Type 2 also. Considering they literally steal suns

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But the Craftworld eldar are uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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They don't

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like I don't think the Kardeshev scale considers mystical space magic

plush mason
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the scale cant account for something like a craftworld yeah

opaque coyote
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I would say at their height, Necrons were type 3.

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AT THEIR HEIGHT

plush mason
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yeah and their power at that stage was typical of a type 3, meaning they where near gods next to the rest of the galaxy

opaque coyote
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And still would be, just most of their territory is either gone or

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they're just

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honk mimimimi

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The Tyranids would be considered type 1 by default given that they consume planets.

Older lore even has them eat the core.

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But again, Kardeshev scale has a hard time with hungry space lobsters

opaque coyote
plush mason
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the votaan would be type 2 i think

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ofc i dont know much about how they power their civilization and same for the tau

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both of them seem like they would be in the type 2 range

nocturne crest
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It's weird to think that there is a case for the Tyranids basically paying taxes.

languid meadow
paper haven
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Never ask the Imperial players where they live

daring creek
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Lmfao

near wasp
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Frank gamma 23-psi:Cawl your guilty of tech heresy and innovation
Cawl:nuh uh
Qov:

daring creek
near wasp
nocturne crest
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Could an Orgyn use an assault cannon, if it were given to them?

near wasp
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Probably. But they'd never be given one.

daring creek
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How to buy hive ganger early and play

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Tell me how

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I get home December 2nd and can't wait longer than immediately right now

rose thorn
daring creek
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Oh my god

opaque coyote
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"Yeah"

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"YOU MADE THE PRIMARIS RIGHT?"

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"Yeah"

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"SO YOU INVENTED SOMETHING?"

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"Nuh uh"

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Tbf for Cawl's point. All of his stuff technically isn't new.

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It's like...

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How the current iPhone version and the one a year earlier is

near wasp
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Tbf he does have the ultimate get out of jail free card

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"the emperor told me to do it"

opaque coyote
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Also I find it funny that

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Cawl made an AI copy of Guilliman

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And said AI copy pointed out that

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He knows he is an AI copy since if Roboute ever ACTUALLY found out

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He would've turned Cawl into crushed tin

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And the fact that he isn't blindingly angry currently means that he's an AI copy as a result

near wasp
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Bro roboute has to suspect the cawl inferior an ai

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There's no way he's so naive

opaque coyote
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Roboute definitely knows but I think he's intentionally looking away

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Because like

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Cawl literally is helping him atm

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Better keep him around

near wasp
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I'm gonna hate when they kill or corrupt cawl so that they can keep the setting stagnant

opaque coyote
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The only way that would happen is if they're doing another paradigm shift

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Like

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End time level

near wasp
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You'd hope

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I don't think 40k is close to end times yet

nocturne crest
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Isn't Cawl inferior doing shit that Cawl doesn't want done.

opaque coyote
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I think Cawl being alive or dead doesn't really matter if you want to keep the setting stagnant

near wasp
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I more mean like him trying to close the great rift

nocturne crest
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Do you think Rannick might resort to hiring blood axes?

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Would anyone want to play as Blood Axes?

opaque coyote
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But as for if he's desperate enough

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Tbh if you ever get to the point where you're genuinely considering hiring Orks

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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You might just want to erase the planet instead

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Like

arctic talon
nocturne crest
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Okay. So question for all!

opaque coyote
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Things are FUCKED if that happens

arctic talon
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its technically his cloned brains along with copies of his memory

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and other shit mashed together

nocturne crest
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Blood Axes or Tech priest as the next class?

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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tbh

nocturne crest
arctic talon
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Cawl could decide to start playing the political game to cause a paradigm shift to an extent

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lol

nocturne crest
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Actually, have we gotten voidsmen as a skin for the rejects?

near wasp
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Honestly the cawl inferior the one with political asperactions

arctic talon
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We've gotten Dynasty ones

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yeah Cawl inferior developed differently from Cawl's brain

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somehow

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Cawl should probably check on that

near wasp
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He's too busy

arctic talon
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but Cawl doesn't need to die/get corrupted for technology to remain stagnant

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I'd like to remind everyone that all the primaris stuff

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was made over 10,000 years

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And he was copying other tech priests as well

near wasp
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Again I'm not worried about primaris

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I'm worried about his necron tech research

arctic talon
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well

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pylons work because Trazyn was literally telling him

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what to do

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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his knowledge of necron tech is limited

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its pretty much what little info he's gotten himself + trazyn's info

nocturne crest
arctic talon
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he hasn't made some shit as insane as some xenarites we've seen in universe

nocturne crest
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With the option to spec into naval breachers.

arctic talon
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Cawl isn't a true xenarite

opaque coyote
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And how the classes have like different variants asw

hollow lantern
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They did skilltrees to avoid careers iirc

nocturne crest
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What, like the dlc you can get for characters?

opaque coyote
hollow lantern
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Actually

opaque coyote
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Either way, Rotor cannon would be fucking awesome for Veteran

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Minigun

hollow lantern
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Aren't there voidsmen cosmetics already?

nocturne crest
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I would what they would add for the other 3 remaining base rejects as dlc career options.

arctic talon
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yeah there's voidsmen at arms cosmetics yeah

nocturne crest
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How would you expand the zealot, psyker and Orgyn with 4th skill tree.

nocturne crest
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Like how the minigun in the upcoming HD2 warbond is going to work.

sudden compass
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Lore nerds, i am once again asking for your knowledge

opaque coyote
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Like TF2

sudden compass
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Are there any hive gangs that dress like clowns?

arctic talon
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and sometimes those members work alongside the clan house gangs

sudden compass
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Hmmmm

nocturne crest
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I just realised, they could give the hive scum a shotgun and a las pistol, like that voidsmen from the rogue trader kill team.

arctic talon
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Technically gangers

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lol

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the same way Enforcers are gangers in Munda

sudden compass
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Doink the Clown and Dr. Rockzo are a possibility then, thank you

arctic talon
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though the mindfrayed in Munda isn't an actual noble

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its just some random person the nobles kidnap

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torture

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and drive insane

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then they get used as basicially a hunting hound

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lol

nocturne crest
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Shotgun for short, laspistol for longer.

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Or as I posted earlier, dual shotguns.

arctic talon
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dual wield weapons in 40k for normal humans both need to be pistols mechanically

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or both be normal guns

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lol

nocturne crest
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So this guy can't use both at the same time then?

arctic talon
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He can use the shotgun or the pistol during a shooting phase

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and in lore he def couldn't fire both at once

nocturne crest
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Damn.

opaque coyote
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Even ignoring game mechanics

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He

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Needs to pump the shotgun

jade holly
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What chapter are the Carcharodons successors of?

arctic talon
jade holly
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Isn’t there theories that they’re actually successors of a traitor chapter?

arctic talon
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well those theories are dead as fuck

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as of the Heresy black books

nocturne crest
arctic talon
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But yes

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back when they were first introduced in Badab some people thought they were NL

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but the Heresy blackbooks pretty much killed off that theory entierly

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and then the Carchs own books buried it

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and then GW killed it in 8e with the RG codex supplement

jade holly
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Rip bozo NLs I guess lmao

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they don’t get the sadistic shark bois

arctic talon
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carchs are just pre Corax RG

nocturne crest
jade holly
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What chapter has the coolest successors that really diversify the identity of the chapter?

jade holly
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Booooo

arctic talon
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just due to quantity

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look

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you wanted an answer

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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but no other chapter has a sucessor that likes skinning people

opaque coyote
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But fair enough

jade holly
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I really like Rogal Dorn and the idea of defense but…

arctic talon
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and another thats literally condemmed for warcrimes

jade holly
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I just really hate the color yellow

arctic talon
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Dorn's sucessors are all really fucking close to the parent chapter

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lol

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Aside from the BT

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who are just the templar bretheren

jade holly
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BT are basically they’re own thing

arctic talon
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also Sons of the Phoenix as well

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who share a lot in common with the templar bretheren

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but they're primaris sucessors

jade holly
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Blood Ravens are the funniest

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Just a bunch of Kleptomaniacs

arctic talon
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but yeah the Libators are uh

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a sucessor of the Ultramarines

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who face censure

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for what they do to their captives

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I would like to note they like drinking blood

jade holly
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Who’s the Lamentors successors of again? IF or Salamanders?

arctic talon
#

and offering blood to Guilliman

nocturne crest
#

I wonder if we'll have a rainbow of templar chapters.

arctic talon
#

Lamenters are a blood angels sucessor

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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lol

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also silver

opaque coyote
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They were fucked from the beginning

nocturne crest
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We got red, white, black and siler so fair.

jade holly
arctic talon
#

Red and Black are both IF sucessors

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White were but they found out they weren't recently

opaque coyote
#

...

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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Until it turns out they weren't

arctic talon
#

but yeah the Lamenters are Blood angel sucessors

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or as Seth puts it in a very seth way

nocturne crest
#

We just need blue, yellow, green and other colours of the spectrum.

arctic talon
#

A puddle of piss in a sea of blood

jade holly
opaque coyote
jade holly
arctic talon
#

Honestly

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the lamenters make a lot of stupid decisions

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but they got screwed over twice

nocturne crest
#

How about this: The Magenta Templars.

arctic talon
#

which was the "cure" failing

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and then the Warp drive failure incident

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lol

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Badab they dug their own grave and sat in it

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they didn't even tap out early like the rest of the traitors

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they were in it to win it

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

with Huron lol

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Huron being Ze Astartes are Ze master race™

jade holly
#

Wait does each Primarch have a title or epithet to them?

arctic talon
#

no

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but a lot of them do

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lol

opaque coyote
jade holly
#

Is Fulgrim’s seriously “The Phoenician”?

arctic talon
#

a lot of people in 40k have a title or epithet

arctic talon
#

also "the illuminator"

jade holly
#

I know Perty is The Lord of Iron

jade holly
arctic talon
#

they're all fucking cowards

jade holly
#

So what is exactly up with Knight houses? Are they their own thing like how we have the Astra Militarum and Soace Marines?

dapper gyro
#

Yes

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They have their own Codex.

arctic talon
#

House Mechanicuses are more tied to the Mechanicus lore wise

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But some House Mechanicuses are insanely tied to a forge world

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while others are just lightly connected

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Houses Imperialis are more independent

opaque coyote
#

the mechanicus wanted a house to be House Mechanicus

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instead of House Imperialis?

arctic talon
#

No

opaque coyote
#

or any other sort of political shit

arctic talon
#

There's way more House Mechanicus's anyways

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Ryza has 3 situated on their forgeworld

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which yes this means there's hoity toity nobles on Ryza alongside tech priests

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lol

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even if their form of nobility is mechanicus coded

arctic talon
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lol

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the (formerly) largest knight house House Raven was offered up a lot to flip allegiences

opaque coyote
daring creek
#

Kriegsmen best guardsmen

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None compare!!!

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sigma rizzler gas mask noises

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Krieg > Cadia

urban spire
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black templar successor chapters rolling out like

daring creek
#

Gonna have a HARD time reclaiming that

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Are they supposed to represent spires or something

urban spire
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personally i think catholicism should be stopped just in general, but you know

lament shoal
urban spire
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we pick our battles

lament shoal
#

The KKK stole our drip because they're stupid and lame

celest dome
#

Stopping those celebrations due to the KKK would be like asking all the Hindu to strike the Manji from their rituals

lament shoal
#

Yeah, its not our fault a buncha assholes decided to wear outfits similar to ours

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And even then there's clear differences as well

celest cedar
misty vector
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Wonder why though

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Maybe he doesnt want the admech overtaking the operation potentially?

storm jungle
#

Calling over Skitarii is basically like allowing another nation to assist in a war

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where they will also want gains, requests, demands among other things

lament shoal
#

Dilara they gave us the nomad and streetkid origins for hive scum pogryn pogryn pogryn

storm jungle
#

Lmao I saw KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
#

Yeah dont forget Admech are so seperate from the Imperium that during the War of the Beast when Terra was under attack Mars tried to dip and teleport their planet away

lament shoal
#

They would demand all of Tertium's toasters

opaque coyote
#

"Please stop beating up King Dedede, he didn't even steal your strawberry shortcake!"

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🤓

hallow saddle
#

skitarii tomorrow

storm jungle
lament shoal
# storm jungle

Reminded me of this. The morons who were saying the reveal was bad because "its just a random regular ganger" are real quiet right now KEKW_ogryn

opaque coyote
#

A Guardsman

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It's still kinda low

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But they probably had better conditions than the others tbh

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I mean they're a high ranking cartel officer

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Still funny how the current rejects are mostly "I am a loyal servant to the Emperor, I was mistakingly imprisoned"

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The Arbites are "We failed to keep order, we must atone and amend the situation'

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Meanwhile the Hive Ganger is like

lament shoal
#

GET OFF MY LAWN

opaque coyote
#

"WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY DRUGS. I WAS PROMISED SLAUGHT FOR THIS."

opaque coyote
rocky gale
opaque coyote
#

Which I find funny

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Like

queen laurel
lament shoal
queen laurel
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The way a planet is in the imperium

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It's naturally makes pretty tough fighters

opaque coyote
#

Especially a Veteran

rocky gale
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It's like adding a Pirate class, it's pretty much the same as the Veteran except the voice says "Yar" and "Matey"

queen laurel
opaque coyote
#

Fair

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Then again, I think the Zealot is technically the least skilled

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They're just somebody who decided to grab a weapon and start purging heretics

queen laurel
#

They are still the least combat experience class in the game They makeup for it with a unbelievable zealotry and insanity

storm jungle
#

yall mfers really need to read the shit gangers can do in the RPG lore

storm jungle
#

they are prime space marine candidates for a reason

lament shoal
storm jungle
#

"erm this makes no sense"

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"erm how can arbites do these things"

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oh my god SHUT UP

#

😭

opaque coyote
# queen laurel Yes they are religious lunatics

So in general we have

Two people with actual official military training and experience (Veteran and Arbites).

One person who is a hardened criminal (Hive Ganger)

Two people who are basically insane crack addicts (Zealot and Psyker)

And finally

Ogryn.

storm jungle
#

The only crack addict is basically Seer

#

also all the ogryns got veterancy im pretty sure

queen laurel
celest cedar
#

oh did fashslayer finally got the boot

queen laurel
#

Very easy to fight when you can break something in half with your punch

lament shoal
opaque coyote
lament shoal
opaque coyote
#

But the Ogryns we play as are experienced for sure

storm jungle
#

guy was an uppity little shitheel

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also got reported for some political stuff in genchat

opaque coyote
#

Oh no

storm jungle
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so another mod gave em the boot after i timed em out

opaque coyote
storm jungle
#

lol

celest cedar
#

lmao

storm jungle
#

He also like openly insulted me 3 times

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which i didnt care about

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but uhhh good material for the report

#

lol

rocky gale
opaque coyote
lament shoal
#

Most of the water cartel were killed off or joined the cult right?

opaque coyote
#

Imagine if the Imperium made drug PSAs

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Like DARE level drug PSAs

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Honestly wouldn't even be far off considering some of them

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"And if you do drugs, you will go to hell before you die"

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Thank you Mario

radiant lance
#

So, if we're predetermined to go to hell,.there are no new downsides to drugs
Gonna go do drugs

lament shoal
valid needle
dapper gyro
wintry scarab
#

Are the leagues of votan sperate from the squats? Or are squats still a thing on some human worlds?

#

Are squats even cannon?

celest dome
#

They're different groups but are the same subspecies

#

Squats basically are the name for any Kin that live inside of the Imperium.

storm jungle
# wintry scarab Are the leagues of votan sperate from the squats? Or are squats still a thing on...
    1. For marketing reasons the entire race of the squats have been dubbed as the Leagues of Votann (after the big AI coreframes that build/help their civilization) with the League part being the commercial megacorp-esque conclaves and nations in space they run which is actually a thing from old lore. The Votann refere to themselves generally as The Kin. The term "squat" is still a thing but its treated more as an insult/slur by humans to them.
    1. So basically the old squat lore is still somewhat canon just largely edited to make sense with the current 40k setting, so its why they got an aesthetic overhaul among other things as well as some bigger lore changes. They still have the thing of being original human colonists who settled in the galactic core that just kinda became dwarves but now they are so seperate from humanity + have become a clone race from the Ancestor Cores that create them, they still got a ton of individuality among other things but thats a topic you should read on your own.
    1. The lore of the Nids also eating a great majority of their homeworlds in the core is also still there, it was just chalked up to poor imperial record keeping regarding what actually happened to them, they are still a proper galactic power to some extent but stick to their own devices, they are more numerous than Tau/Eldar but are below humanity in numbers
    1. They are technically considered "xenos" due to being extremely seperated from humanity + a great majority of the Imperium also doesnt know their true origin but will hire them as mercs and other commerce related stuff, but obviously it changes from League to League on the matters of operation.
    1. The Necromunda Votann are called "squats" by most people but they've adopted the name to some extent as well. They lost their Votann Core (the big AI ancestor box that micro-manages an entire League) during their first settlement into Munda so have devolved to reproducing the old fashioned way and founding an entire monopoly on their own behalf as dawi due, becoming a proper civilization on the planet that a lot of the Imperial hives/people rely on for prospecting and other big money grindsets
hallow saddle
storm jungle
celest dome
#

There was a thread on reddit today about what faction people would like to see, quite a few want thr Silent for AoS, which I have no feeling on, insect faction could work.
But still so many people want to see Skaven in 40k 💀

wintry scarab
#

Dont skaven just fall under the "beastmen" category in 40k?

storm jungle
#

No because skaven dont exist in 40k

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beastmen are mutants that carry some characteristic of cattle animals

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Skaven are entirely their own species, they dont come from humans.

near wasp
#

Rats are rats

wintry scarab
storm jungle
wintry scarab
storm jungle
near wasp
#

The imperium are 40k skaven

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Don't let big imperial tell you otherwise

wintry scarab
#

Idk how id feel about an entire new faction in 40k that is just the skaven then. To me, it would be a bit weird. But it all falls under execution. I quite liked my headcannon of rat people falling under beastmen ngl.

storm jungle
#

Orcs and Orks in Warhammer literally have zero differenc aside from industrialism, GW always finds ways to execute the same ideas differently and people always like it so i wouldnt worry about it.

#

Making skaven beastmen is a very cheap and weird option i dont think anyone would like.

wintry scarab
#

Yeah, fair enough. I tend to carry the unpopular opinions anyways lol.

wintry scarab
#

Also, idk if it was people in this chat that didnt like FlashGitz but I quite like their sort of slop content they do and i like spaceking. But in their recent video, they agreed with the people that said that that new space marine heads box looks "female" which made me go: 😐

vagrant fox
#

Least surprising thing I ever read

near wasp
#

it's just juvenile humor

near wasp
storm jungle
#

LOL

wintry scarab
storm jungle
#

The thing is Flashgitz are Schrodingers Chuds

#

where the parody is so irony poisoned that even if they were serious you’d never be able to tell. These guys very obviously do not like the modern state of 40k lol. Doesnt help that they also knowingly appeal to the chuddiest portion of the fanbase.

#

They were making offensive, transphobic and racist content for almost two decades way back, so what you said isnt really shocking to me

surreal nest
#

ngl the space marine "female head" drama is what convinced me that im done with 40k as a hobby

storm jungle
surreal nest
#

if you say any shit like that in age of sigmar communities you will get stoned to death

vagrant fox
#

I hate censorbot

surreal nest
#

but AoS also doesnt have that problem cuz women are allowed to be important players in the lore!

vagrant fox
#

Just enjoy your little space, the fandom is just plain stupid

surreal nest
#

i think its so funny how bland 40k has gotten and yet these chuds think its like their little slice of heaven

#

the most corporified art form ever

storm jungle
#

They always did and still blame GW for "ruining" it.

#

40k has been at its most successful apex in decades lol

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

its why its funny when Flashgitz' merch video from a few weeks back was actively mocking this saying they wont "sell out" like "some companies" to appeal to a "wider audience"

#

when the entire reason they even made spaceking was because they were sellign 40k merch without consent and got caught red handed

surreal nest
#

THEIR VIDEOS ARE AS AVERAGE HUMOR WISE AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE WHAT

#

THEY ARE THE WIDE AUDIENCE

#

WHAT

#

oh my god its like a baseball player thinking his sport is niche

#

what the fuck

#

nobody has ever made a no girls allowed joke before

storm jungle
#

But anyway yeah people can like space king, its just that its very much a vehicle for chuds acting as "oh we are mocking the dumb part of the warhammer fanbase" while actively appealing to them

#

But i do believe flashgitz are more like drifter-chuds, where they very much do not care about this stuff while liking offensive things but being aware they will gain more traction by appealing to That™ part of the fanbase.

#

^ basically them rn

#

anyway thats my two cents, i gotta head out KEKW_ogryn

surreal nest
#

how do the fans not feel shame knowing they are basically just being hypnotized by hearing what they want to hear

#

jesus man

vagrant fox
#

Nothing new under the sun, something about people liking being affirmed in their beliefs or something

wintry scarab
#

Yeah, when i say i like spaceking, im not saying i like the fan stuff around it. Its definitely a chud breeding ground.

wintry scarab
#

Also, from looking back at some of their old videos, they made some very much transphobic stuff lol. And it didnt seem very tasteful either.

raven stone
#

Not that this ever needs crosschecking but I just want to cross check anyways

#

Is it just me or do some women take the whole "turn things against men" argument just a bit too bitterly?

#

Like...I get that women should have a career and all, but then they say "Never ever lower your standards, never marry down!"

#

When relationships are...well...complex things that require compromise and a flexible approach (within acceptable, non-abuse situations of course) to communicate with each other?

storm jungle
#

theres nothing "genuine" about them

#

they are chuds who just bandwagon on stuff for clout/money, and its a good tactic so it works quite well

raven stone
#

GW could take them for naming/brand confusion if they really wanted

storm jungle
#

They did ge tthe hammer for using black templars for merch so thats probably close enough lol

late verge
storm jungle
late verge
late verge
#

I did think that the b positive episode was funny tbh

late verge
storm jungle
#

its not that hard to detect when they have been doing bigoted content for like 15 years now

daring creek
#

Im cementing

#

Making me think about that one your favorite martian song

late verge
late verge
#

Considering getting some incense for when my computer acts up

daring creek
#

I beat my pc when it don't work

#

Kinda backfired

#

It likes it now

near wasp
#

Now I'm just imaging ray as a tech priest thanks

daring creek
near wasp
late verge
near wasp
daring creek
#

Can't wait to go home

near wasp
#

I'm two hours into my eleven hour shift

daring creek
#

Id start tweaking

near wasp
#

One of my coworkers also just no called no show

nocturne crest
#

So how long until the 4 scum video?

#

With 8 guns going off at once.

valid needle
near wasp
#

Apparently my coworker ran off with his girl friend after trashing his coworker/roommates bathroom

valid needle
#

Partly with helping draw them to BT and partly just with general viewer opinion

daring creek
valid needle
#

Space marine players be like “black Templars are the racist chapter” like Mf every chapter is the racist chapter.

#

It is the sole purpose of their creation

storm jungle
#

to be fair

#

Black Templars are like THE racist-of-racists

#

lol

#

thats usually what they mean

nocturne crest
#

Even more than the red scorpions?

storm jungle
#

Yes.

valid needle
#

But red scorpions are legit the genetic purity dudes

storm jungle
#

we barely see Red Scorps do anything regarding eugenics.

#

BTs meanwhile have literally purged entire populations in the middle of a war lol

nocturne crest
valid needle
valid needle
#

Shit Dilara help me out

nocturne crest
#

Huh. They also believe that the emperor is a god.

valid needle
#

Propaganda

#

No rhetoric

near wasp
#

He is a god tho

valid needle
#

That’s it

#

Brain went ghost there for a min

valid needle
daring creek
#

They're black

#

So how can they be racist??

plush mason
#

lmao

valid needle
#

I notice no one hates on the WHITE Templars

daring creek
#

Might need to speak with the gods

near wasp
#

I need uncle ruckas in a white Templar armor

nocturne crest
storm jungle
#

Yeah it is

valid needle
#

But

storm jungle
#

but like "FOR THE GOD-EMPEROR" sounds better in marketing

valid needle
#

That’s because there’s over 1000 chapters

storm jungle
#

but most space marine lore makes an effort to acknowledge that Chapters believing the Emperor is a god is usually a taboo or "weird" thing

valid needle
#

Rogal Dorns line for example is the line which produces over the average Imperial Cult chapters

#

His is legit

9-9 cult-truth

#

The rest of his line are unknown ideology

#

It’s rarer because there’s so many chapters but it very much is still a thing among chapters

storm jungle
#

basically the writers just forget to explain it or just act like Chapters accepting hes a god is more the norm

daring creek
#

This is post heresy yeah

valid needle
#

Yes

daring creek
#

Oh.

#

Fair enough

plush mason
#

no chapter in 40k follows the imperial truth, it died with the heresy, all they do is view the emperor as a father figure/inspirational leader

valid needle
#

Chapters were different pre heresy chapters were still in their legions. Chapters post heresy are detached from their previous legions.

near wasp
#

I feel like ultima founding chapters are more likely to worship the emperor

valid needle
#

Chapters who view him as god will most likely jump up if Rogal returns

#

Considering the last time he was chronically seen he believed his father was a god.

#

@storm jungle correct me if I’m wrong but i believe guilliman has also began debating the facts and decided even if his father is a god he doesn’t deserve to be worshipped

#

In the books he sat down and fully read the Lectitio Divinitatus

near wasp
#

Correct

#

Dark imperium trilogy

valid needle
#

Yeah so I think in current day the imperial truth is more a leftover thing from heresy and not mandatory anymore meanwhile the imperial creed is taking over.

#

I can’t see lion accepting the imperial cult though

#

He was the most loyal but also the most against worship

plush mason
near wasp
#

He deals with it

valid needle
plush mason
#

yeah its full on outlawed

near wasp
#

He'd rather himself be worshipped than humans finding something else to worship

valid needle
#

So then yeah I agree with whoever said ultima and going forward foundings will be imperial cult

plush mason
#

ofc

near wasp
#

They are more likely to believe since they already believed big e was a god before being abducted

plush mason
#

the SMs are in a grey zone with the creed because even though they dont worship him as god most of the time they do venerate him in their own way

near wasp
#

Yes

plush mason
#

plus the cult cant afford to force the marines into compliance

valid needle
#

Of course

#

It’s not worth making enemies with the first foundings or even second foundings

plush mason
#

yup

valid needle
#

Same reason the inquisition retreated from killing off the celestial lions when helbrecht declared support for the lions.

near wasp
#

Also war of shame

valid needle
#

That’s a tough one

#

Them thinking grey knights would mop the floor with SW did make the exception to what we said before though

#

But I think the result of the months of shame has cemented going after first or second foundings is just a bad idea.

plush mason
#

hell the ecclisiarchy literally invaded fenris 3 times

#

got their asses beat all 3 times and just said "fuck it"

valid needle
#

Minotaurs are banned from all 500 worlds of ultramar

#

For attacking a 2nd founding ultramarine chapter

#

The ultramarine successors collectively put notice on the Minotaurs that if they enter ultramar they’ll be exterminated.

near wasp
#

I still find it funny that the lamentors are still alive because the minotaurs vouced for them

storm jungle
#

...They did?

#

are you sure you arent mixing it up

storm jungle
near wasp
#

Pretty sure minotaurs vouced for lamentars following the bagdab war because they saw how well they fought and thought Itd be a waste to get rid of them

storm jungle
#

Im pretty sure thats not true.

#

The only thing Minos did was take claim of Lamenters equipment and just drag them for sentencing to the gathering.

#

the Minotaurs have no sense of honor, they just do what they are told.

#

You might be possibly mixing up the Salamanders vouching for the Executioners.

near wasp
#

I have no idea anymore

#

Too many chapters

near wasp
#

Shush you I'll vent nurgles garden into your cubicle

valid needle
valid needle
#

Dilara they conjure demons and let them posess them, dorn geneseed must have been going through some stuff at their founding

celest cedar
near wasp
#

That's extorists

#

Not exacutionors

valid needle
#

Ohh shit yeah

#

Too many chapters

near wasp
#

Lol

storm jungle
#

those 142k likes are deserved

celest cedar
#

why are people so good bro

storm jungle
#

sometimes fandoms can be nice

#

(unlike 40k)

celest cedar
#

TRUE

near wasp
#

Bro every fandom pretty much sucks

celest cedar
#

not bg3 or dispatch

near wasp
#

It's very rare that they dont

celest cedar
#

helps that its not a fandom about a space fascist empire teehee

storm jungle
#

id prefer ones that dont have nazis making up half of it

near wasp
#

And yet you remain