40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

The worst and best

At once

Either way, I think out of all of the examples, Pol Pot is basically the #1 reason why I believe Karma doesn't exist

He died.

Peacefully

In his sleep

At an old age

At least Stalin got a slow, painful death caused by his own paranoia

[jade holly]

I mean Stalin exists. He died painfully cause all of his doctors were terrified to operate on him

oh you said him

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Pol Pot died surrounded by loyal ppl, at an old age, and said that he basically regretted absolutely nothing

Actual cartoon villain

Sister of Battle cleansing Chaos tainted artifact

[young pecan]

Karma doesn't exist, which is why it is our duty to enforce it ourselves

[opaque coyote]

Justice is a construct that we must maintain

...

I feel like we forgot the maintain part

[surreal nest]

YEAH THAT POST

[storm jungle]

GENUINELY insane

just nothing but Whataboutism

[surreal nest]

"You say warhammer is a satire of far right fascism, yet you dont acknowledge that genestealer culture ares a satire of left wing fascism" LIKE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

[arctic talon]

lets play a "fun" game which noxian is a mage

you get 1 guess

[surreal nest]

You say cars use gasoline to power their engine yet you havent pointed out that I might have shit my pants!

[storm jungle]

Again just-

macro-moving the goalpost

[jade holly]

4th on the top

From the left

[rose thorn]

The lady?

[crystal forum]

they're still made about primaris. i expect femstodes to still be brought up 8 years from now

[arctic talon]

which lady 💀

[rose thorn]

Ignore fallout nv

[arctic talon]

oh her

[surreal nest]

Genuinely what do those people have to live for how do you go through your day to day constantly angry

[arctic talon]

its not her

[rose thorn]

HOW

[arctic talon]

good guess though

[surreal nest]

Its 3

Its 3

[arctic talon]

her weapons are runic

You're right

[jade holly]

Can’t believe Noxus went from crazy old bird guy to this

[arctic talon]

LOL

it is 3

[rose thorn]

THE DUEL WIELDIBG GUY?!!?!

[surreal nest]

YESSSSSS

FUCK YOU

[lament shoal]

I actually got a sm2 vid recommended to me a while back titled "Labubus are chaos artifacts" LMFAO

[arctic talon]

its her yeah

[surreal nest]

WHATS MY PRIZE

[arctic talon]

4th one is an officer in a non combat outfit

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf it's less a satire of left wing... Fascism(what?)

Just more so revolutions in general

[arctic talon]

this gif

https://tenor.com/view/until-we-meet-again-league-of-legends-league-gay-gay-lol-gif-22467247

[opaque coyote]

Where the revolutionary leader is sponsored by an all encompassing tyrant

[surreal nest]

I will accept this as a prize thank you so much chat

[arctic talon]

LOL

[surreal nest]

This is cool too

[arctic talon]

Honestly Swain got such a huge glowup

[jade holly]

Indeed

[opaque coyote]

It's similar to how like countries like the USA and Russia basically sponsored revolutions

[jade holly]

Became my all time favorite League champ

[opaque coyote]

The Genestealers are the same in that regard

A gigantic figure that dwarfs the small mass that is the planet/country manipulates and sponsors a group of revolutionaries so that they can use the country to their own ends

As the country ends up being consumed by said bigger mass after the revolution is done

Literally adding them to themselves and losing their identities as a result.

It isn't really a criticism of left wing specifically. Just a lot of revolutions

In fact, if you're like me and look into things too much. It's more so a criticism of imperialism

[arctic talon]

okay so the big thing for Noxian mages is to look at the weapon, if its made out of a pitch black material its often runic stone

and not metal

[opaque coyote]

Not Colonialism considering well

The Tyranids literally eat them

[arctic talon]

and runic stone weapons are waaaaaaaaay more popular among mages

then non mages

because they can juice them up further then what was put into them from the start

runic weapons can be made out of metal as well but the good stuff is made from rocks

[opaque coyote]

But yeah Genestealers are basically the type of revolutions that are sponsored by gigantic countries

Tbf a lot of revolutions are

Both the ""good"" and ""bad"" ones

Notice the quotations as revolutions are often more complicated than that

And the results are never immediate

[arctic talon]

shove magic into a sword so it cuts better, truly a noxian technique

[valid needle]

In a universe where everything is fascist

[arctic talon]

Gsc def make fun of red facism to an extent

But they never remain in control long lol because the star gods are hungry

[valid needle]

Imperium fascist, aliens fascist, necrons fascist, robots fascist, cats fascist, babies fascist, dogs are chill tho

[valid needle]

Nah I doubt it

Primaris was a completely different situation

[young pecan]

Felinids are under represented in positions of power, leading me to believe cats not fascist

[lament shoal]

Nah dogs are fascist too. Arbites

Cyber mastiff named "stop resisting"

[valid needle]

I never went through the change but I can understand being told “your shit is worthless now now spend hundreds if not thousands replacing it” will piss you off.

[valid needle]

Nah.

Dogs can do no wrong.

[surreal nest]

I never understood this

Arent the models still usable

Are space marine fans just stupid

[valid needle]

No

[surreal nest]

How do you figure

[arctic talon]

Yes but not in comp

But a small portion of people play comp

[valid needle]

Most are legacy and don’t have rules for proper games

[arctic talon]

Also there’s proxying which is a thing

[arctic talon]

Legends are proper rules bruh

Tf you mean

You can also use firstborn sternguard as the new ones

[surreal nest]

No not even rules related they are the same model but just not updated

[lament shoal]

The humble baby eating cyber mastiff:

[valid needle]

How many people play legacy vs normal

[surreal nest]

Its really not the end of the world if you use your old miniatures

[valid needle]

Let me pet that dog

[arctic talon]

Legends are literally allowed for all normal play verbatim from GW

There isn’t such thing as a “legacy” mode

[surreal nest]

But I understand the annoyance in your space marine army being mismatched due to new better scaled primaris but that would have happened anyways

[arctic talon]

You just play normal ass 40k and you can bring legends stuff

If you’re in a tournament or doing competitive practice then no legends

My LGS has a fuck ton of comp players but people use legends stuff all the time in casual play

[arctic talon]

Meh scale creep has happened since forever

It’s inevitable

[surreal nest]

0 percent chance the eye of terror community actually plays the game btw

[arctic talon]

GW seems to have slowed down

[valid needle]

Didn’t they get banned

[arctic talon]

Literally every person I’ve ever met is fine with legends stuff outside of comp play

[surreal nest]

Several times

[arctic talon]

Including at big events

lol

[surreal nest]

This be their third neo nazi subreddit

[storm jungle]

This is the 3rd time

genuinely unbelievable

[valid needle]

Idk how Grimdank hasn’t been banned yet

[arctic talon]

All the people saying legends makes shit unusable are literally shadow boxing from my personal experience

[storm jungle]

it doesnt have nazis or white supremacists in it

ironically those chuds on that subreddit say this exact same rhetoric

lmao

[arctic talon]

Genuinely what do you mean by this I’m curious

[surreal nest]

Solution - they should ban every single user subscribed to the latest neo nazi subreddit

[storm jungle]

the funniest part is like

[arctic talon]

What do you define as a proper game

A comp game? Because GW statistics show less then 1% of the people who play the physical tabletop game play in tournaments

[storm jungle]

reddit doesnt have a subreddit report feature, so these people are SO BAD that they get noticed enough to be nuked

[valid needle]

Aren’t Grimdank and eye of terror all chuds who beef with eachother on reddit lol?

[arctic talon]

No

[surreal nest]

Grimdank is woke

[arctic talon]

Grimdank is just a meme subreddit

[storm jungle]

Grimdank is filled with dumb people, but they are very supportive/pro-queer among other stuff

yeah that

Eye of Terror is literally just nazis

[lament shoal]

They're collaborating. Planning a heresy. A horus heresy

[arctic talon]

Bad

[storm jungle]

google it now and the top post is a transphobic post with 2k likes lol

[lament shoal]

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

this isnt Horus' treachery

it is his HERESY

(actual line btw)

[valid needle]

Reddit Heresy

It’s just grown adults beefing on reddit

[arctic talon]

There’s prolly some teens

💀

And kids

Also @storm jungle cyberpunk 2077 2 isn’t coming out until after 2028 lol

according to CDPR’s investment reports

[storm jungle]

Thats good

lmao

[arctic talon]

In other news uh glory to Arasaka or something

Idk

[storm jungle]

we already had one Arasaka stooge this morning

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/well-done-cyberpunk2077-good-job-thumbs-up-cyberpunk-gif-27166106

[storm jungle]

im good

[arctic talon]

lol

[surreal nest]

I know its mean but please god let cyberpunk 2 be an echo of what happened

That would be so funny

Everybody preorders again

[jade holly]

Arasaka stooge? Should I be glad I missed it or something?

[arctic talon]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Think Pondsmith might decide to not work with them ever again after that

[storm jungle]

Some weird guy with an arasaka pfp just kept going on about "whataboutisms" for 2 hours straight

lmao

[arctic talon]

Weird

lol

[surreal nest]

Thats my goat

[storm jungle]

shoving you in an oven

[arctic talon]

Anyways Arasaka isn’t my favorite evil mega corp in cyberpunk

[surreal nest]

Wow this oven is really nice

Really thank you for showing me this

[arctic talon]

My favorite is Kang Tao because Taiwan #1/j

[jade holly]

Honestly for me my favorite evil corp in a game’s prob gotta be Hyperion

[vagrant fox]

what happened to him anyways is he dead yet

[jade holly]

And not just because of Jack

[surreal nest]

Valid

[surreal nest]

Nice whataboutism

[storm jungle]

Just went quiet lol

[humble shoal]

Im a big fan of the finals' sponsor

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651502381183533077/1405838821370761277/bf4_250.gif

[arctic talon]

Also all the Chinese text in cyberpunk 2077 uses traditional not simplified

Fun fact

[vagrant fox]

Weird lad, hope I never see him again

[opaque coyote]

GAMES REQUIRE TIME???

[arctic talon]

Also my players made a killdozer in cyberpunk red

💀

From a stolen armored ambulance

[vagrant fox]

because of the kanji dominance 100% 100% this is lore

[opaque coyote]

considering cyberpunk 2077, i would be surprised if there wasn't more killdozer type incidents

[arctic talon]

I mean it’s expensive as fuck

And also the police would notice

[opaque coyote]

i mean

cyberpsychos

[arctic talon]

Those aren’t killdozers

Those are just people suffering psychosis and cybernetics making it worse

Lll

[young pecan]

But what if you strapped a bunch of dangerous cyberpsychos to a bulldozer to turn it into a killdozer

[arctic talon]

Someone deciding to go on revenge and blowing someone’s head off isn’t news in cyberpunk also

[humble shoal]

So just a bigger choom

[opaque coyote]

yeah so making a giant machine to kill people would be news

[arctic talon]

Honestly probably

[opaque coyote]

also wasn't there a cyberpsycho in a full makeshift borg suit

[arctic talon]

But only because it’s funny

[arctic talon]

They have militech heavy lifting rigs

Either military or for “civilian” use

[opaque coyote]

yeah if we didn't kill him, that would definitely be a killdozer type incident

[arctic talon]

The rig is called a militech centaur

It’s an exoskeleton

[opaque coyote]

or in this case uhhh

knock him out and drag him to regina

If there is one thing I unironically wish for

more non-lethal weapons

[arctic talon]

You can make any gun non lethal in 2077

If you have slots

[opaque coyote]

smart guns

I believe?

[arctic talon]

Don’t ask how this works lore eise

Nah works on anything

lol

PAX mod makes all stuff non lethal unless you double tap

Makes no sense lore wise

So I choose to believe it’s a gameplay mechanic

[opaque coyote]

I think the lore for smart guns being non-lethal is them targetting non-vital areas specifically

[arctic talon]

Well smart guns don’t do that with pax equipped

But yes you can lock on to non lethal areas

[opaque coyote]

Yeah PAX makes no sense

[jade holly]

“Smart guns”- don’t kill a target

Make it make sense smh

[opaque coyote]

tbf usually they do

[arctic talon]

They’re smart because they aim for you

[opaque coyote]

It makes more sense for smart guns to have a non-lethal and lethal setting

Like Clippy

[arctic talon]

Ironically why some corps soldiers suck at aiming lol

Because they get equipped with smart guns only

[opaque coyote]

the equivalent of asking chat gpt

on things like

"will this fridge fit my car"

[arctic talon]

I do think it’s funny that kang tao doesn’t have any of their conventional guns in 2077

And it’s just all smart guns

[arctic talon]

“It will”

[dapper gyro]

"If you are brave enough"

[opaque coyote]

also

[arctic talon]

Good image

[opaque coyote]

The first thing I learned about coding

is that it is never "This is perfect"

it is always

"Is this good enough? Okay good, now I'm gonna go to bed. I've been awake for two days"

[raven stone]

Wonderful image

[jade holly]

You think the Imperium uses skulls cause of how abundant of a resource it is?

[arctic talon]

It’s just due to tradition

[dire loom]

🗣️ Hive City infrastructure!

[wintry scarab]

Just saw the ganger gameplay snippet and those pistols look so fucking good. Literally looks like payday 2 lo

[dire loom]

🗣️ That's right, choom.

Join the dark side

[lament shoal]

Kruber is a Bretonnian right?

[sacred ginkgo]

Kind of

His dad was

Imperial mfs when they find out they're 1% french

[arctic talon]

His father was but he himself grew up in the empire

[spring cairn]

how much of shitter is valrak

idk that guy

[lament shoal]

Gotcha, ty

[spring cairn]

there's a vid in my recommendations basically titled tww40k reveal next week

[arctic talon]

He’s good

[spring cairn]

mmmh

[hallow saddle]

hes somewhat annoying but his rumours are pretty damn good

[arctic talon]

He just soys about marines, nids and orks

Aka his armies

lol

[hallow saddle]

he has at least one source in the warhammer studio

[arctic talon]

He’s a good guy

[spring cairn]

should i trust his claim

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1258683963589787689/1443371205334929620/Screenshot_2025-01-15-10-20-45-263_com.google.android.youtube-edit.jpg?ex=6928d3af&is=6927822f&hm=05aa75e78f95c9d3a0c0196b3ab0fa964e29b16cc8269ccb80e4e911a0a98aff&=&format=webp&width=627&height=785

[arctic talon]

Yeah his proper leaks are accurate

For 40k the wargame yes

For anything else probably not

[wet sandal]

You can't trust a person that doesn't soy over their armies

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

Valrak pretty much only knows his armies well

lol

[hallow saddle]

the content of the rumours is good but dont put too much stock in the dates he gives

like total war 40k seems to 100% be coming but im not so sure about an announcement next week

might happen, would be poggers if it does

[spring cairn]

yeah ik it's coming

but idk about that next week claim

[hallow saddle]

ya idk

[wet sandal]

I must restock my supplies of hopium

It seems I'm running low

[hallow saddle]

skitarii tomorrow

[languid meadow]

considering the total war community has had it's own leaks about warhammer I don't think we'll get the 40k announcement until the supposed end times stuff

[languid meadow]

since the newest DLC is following those leaks very closely

[wet sandal]

skitarii tomorrow

[spring cairn]

i'm self-sufficient when it comes to hope atp

so tww40k next week for sure

[dapper gyro]

I have given up all hope.

[spring cairn]

yes, i tooked it all

https://tenor.com/view/starman-superman-hope-happy-gif-10856873242241688466

[wet sandal]

You don't need hope, you just need to know that

nothing ever happens

[spring cairn]

If nothing happens, nothing bad happened

[wet sandal]

"But what if they announce..."
"They won't"

[dry bluff]

Would be nice and it makes sense

[wintry scarab]

The soyjak epidemic is real. I cannot peruse the internet without seeing one ugly things.

[celest cedar]

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[wet sandal]

This is you btw

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/cobson-edit-gif-17725429570181052605

[wintry scarab]

My life is like a video game, trying hard to beat the stage. All the while im still collecting coins.

[jade holly]

How tough is it actually for normal soldiers to kill a CSM?

[winter pine]

Depends on what kind of weaponry the normal human troops have

Plasma or Melta? A chaos marine is probably dead within a few seconds afaik

[jade holly]

Let’s say normal lasguns, maybe a Plasma gun or two

[winter pine]

There's a quote of a chaos marine telling some other lost and damned astartes to not underestimate the lasgun so I think it wouldn't take that many regular humans

[wet sandal]

It's tough, but entirely dependant on circumstances. A single csm can mow through a trench of guardsmen (in one of the minka lesk books for example), or 10 guys can take out 6 csm (gaunt's ghosts)

[jade holly]

But CSM aren’t as invincible as one would think yeah?

[winter pine]

Like real life it's probably a matter of who gets the first shot on the other guy

[jade holly]

Including loyalist Space Marines?

The only CSM I see being a pain in the ass to really kill are Plague Marines

Cause, ya know, they cheat

[winter pine]

Vorx my beloved ❤️

[jade holly]

What about the loyalist side? Which Chapter is the hardest to kill a single space marine of?

[sacred ginkgo]

a plasma or krak grenade can solve a great deal of problems very quickly

[jade holly]

I’m thinking Salamander, IF, or IH

[hallow saddle]

iron hands cause theyre cyborgs

[winter pine]

I'd guess Iron Hands because they're Adam Smasher grade borgs

[sacred ginkgo]

Nah not even close

[winter pine]

Also have a doctrine of only fighting in a conflict they stastically will win easily

[sacred ginkgo]

Adam is a brain in a jar

[hallow saddle]

iron father kristos was basically adam smasher

absolute horrible psycho

[wet sandal]

This discussion is approaching powerscaling at a dangerous pace

I must withdraw

[sacred ginkgo]

Not really power scaling so much as style

[jade holly]

Who would win: The first captain of the DG or one Oggy boi who was told he’d get extra rashuns by the guy in the big hat if he threw a rock at him

[wet sandal]

Who would win: the back of my mouth or a 12 gauge buckshot shell?

[jade holly]

[winter pine]

Adam Smasher: METAL IS BETTER THAN MEAT!
Iron Father Kristos: See, mortals? This guy gets it!

[jade holly]

Time to inspire some heresy

The flesh is weak. Iron within, iron without

[dapper gyro]

Iron Fathers are more durable than most marines, but eating a few shots of plasma and they become dreadnaught candidates.

[dry bluff]

Only a few things that the Admech, Iron Hands, and the Iron Warriors would agree on

Plus Adam Smasher I guess

[arctic talon]

Ultimately plasma/melta is the great equalizer

[arctic talon]

Legalize cyber psychosis

[dry bluff]

When Meltagun in Darktide

[dapper gyro]

Unfortunately, there are so many occassions that normal people killed marines that stuff like the Youtube shorts "Astartes" is barely accurate.

[arctic talon]

Tbh they never go against anything that can kill them aside from the psykers

lol

[dapper gyro]

Despite fans trying very hard to say otherwise.

[arctic talon]

Actually

The auto cannon

[dry bluff]

Like any media it depends on the writing

[arctic talon]

Could have killed then

[winter pine]

wdym it's already legal

[arctic talon]

The psykers/auto cannon/multi las were the only threats

Also the rocket that missed ig

[winter pine]

Military grade cyberware doesn't kill people, people kill people

[dapper gyro]

Autocanon, multi-las, krak?

[hallow saddle]

astartes is perfection

[jade holly]

You think Admech tried to reverse engineer Necrons before?

[arctic talon]

Don’t know if it’s a krak or frag ngl

[arctic talon]

Probably

[dry bluff]

I mean realistically or lorewise the 4 rejects and the upcoming 2 classes we play as wont survive fighting daemons, daemonhosts, chaos spawns, traitor guard cultists etc at the same mission

[arctic talon]

Yeah but it’s fun

lol

Every 40k game player character is alternatively constructed

[dapper gyro]

Assassin and Death Watch use necron techs, so yes, Admech does reverse engineer stuff.

[jade holly]

I still just want a mission saying a random Plague Marine got badly injured and displaced via a warpstorm and we gotta kill it. Make it like a 16 man activity

[sacred ginkgo]

1 plague marine would just get mulched

[arctic talon]

Yeah we’ve got enough shit to kill them

Just keep on shooting them until they die

[daring creek]

If you have armor penetrating weaponry like. Plasma you can definitely off an astartes

[winter pine]

A plague marine showing up means thing get way more escalated

[sacred ginkgo]

Vet with plasma power sword and kraks
Zealot with thammer or relic and bolter
Psyker
Ogryn with pickaxe and heavy stubber

Dead

[arctic talon]

Heavy stubber isn’t doing shit to plague marines

[jade holly]

Hence why o said warpstorm displaced. A loner who got isolated

[sacred ginkgo]

It would be so incomprehsibly dead

[arctic talon]

Ogryn melee yes

Plague marines are really fucking hardy

[dapper gyro]

Thing is that in the lore, the strike team is much bigger than 4 guys.

[arctic talon]

In like almost every depiction

Aside from gaunts ghosts

lol

[sacred ginkgo]

The heaviest variant is basically 30mm

[jade holly]

Not to mention just being near one is like experiencing every historical plague at the same time

[dapper gyro]

They would never send a valk in carrying only 4 people.

[arctic talon]

Oh the non twin linked one

lol

[sacred ginkgo]

thats twink stubber

[arctic talon]

That one looks more like an auto cannon then stubber

[daring creek]

An ogyrn can take out a space marine hand to hand. Hugely differing in fighting skill though

[dry bluff]

Yeah wish we got more players in a mission

[sacred ginkgo]

not heavy stubber

[dapper gyro]

Unless you got some serious package like an temple assassin.

[sacred ginkgo]

Game wouldn't play well with more

[arctic talon]

Twin linked stubbers are heavy stubbers

[winter pine]

I'm still convinced Grendyl is doing some Ravenor-tier shit to keep the strike teams of rejects safe

[sacred ginkgo]

They couldn't get a challenging amount of enemies for more than 4 players to run on a console

[arctic talon]

They’re literally two of the mini heavy stubbers glued together

Ultimately a plague marine would be a pain in the ass to fight

Just due to their “aura”

[jade holly]

Bro he has Rannick working for him, he ain’t doing shit for us

[jade holly]

The Reddit mod aura

[arctic talon]

Asmongold aura

[winter pine]

asmongoldmaxxing

[dapper gyro]

Twin link and the heavy stubber in game are the same thing, but for gameplay, they are different.

[winter pine]

lmfao

[jade holly]

Nah his is even stronger

[crisp heath]

🤣

[arctic talon]

Mfw my bolter rounds literally rust mid flight

This is bullshit

But being around a plague marine usually results in puking at best

lol

Your flesh will literally start melting off at worse

[jade holly]

Honestly Plague Marines are just high health, high armor, and then a massive fuck you aura of death

The aura is the hard part of fighting one

Make that a raid mechanic

[dapper gyro]

Plague marines have high regen.

[jade holly]

They do?

Well that’s just cheating

[arctic talon]

Yeah plague marines “regrow”

[celest cedar]

prolly same reason they give to VT2

[arctic talon]

lol

[celest cedar]

easier to track 4 players than 5 (this is a lie)

[dapper gyro]

That's why they are hard to kill.

[arctic talon]

It’s funny that even in dark imperium which is imperium bolter porn book

[dry bluff]

Yeah and in some stories they also revive from death

[arctic talon]

They get mag dumped by a primaris marine

And don’t fucking die lol

[jade holly]

I still can’t get over that Dracula Flow video is saw in here yesterday for the World Eaters lmao

[arctic talon]

But yeah plague marines regenerate, don’t feel pain, are extreme durable and all their weapons will kill you after the fact often

Also their “aura”

[jade holly]

A walking miasma of decay and pestilence

[dapper gyro]

The armour is the same as any other marines, but more durable and regen.

[dry bluff]

Yeah we will die even if we wear some protection

[arctic talon]

Yeah plague marine armor isn’t armor anymore lol

[dry bluff]

It corrodes everything

[arctic talon]

Its part of them

[jade holly]

Plague Marines are basically health tanks

[arctic talon]

Tbf they can just hand wave the aura

[dapper gyro]

AP ammunition won't do shit, but flame will.

[arctic talon]

Like they do with the beast of Nurgle

lol

Tbf AP ammo will do shit

[jade holly]

Whereas Iron Warriors would be armor tanks

[arctic talon]

You just need to get lucky

lol

Or fire enough

[dry bluff]

Warpsmiths will just capture us and make new Daemonculabas the all gender edition

[winter pine]

yeah idk I'm doubting a regular Plague Marine would do more to the rejects than the usual bosses we're stomping through

[dry bluff]

New and improved

[queen laurel]

I'm gonna be honest I think you need something about that can take out a light vehicle to go to even tickle them

[jade holly]

I’ve heard enough, send in Typhus

[hallow saddle]

id think a plague marine would be pretty fuckin dangerous to us tho

[winter pine]

bro we're doomed if he shows up lmao

[arctic talon]

Well we’ve got those

[dry bluff]

Yup

[winter pine]

Typhus is a contender for most malignant bastard in the whole setting with Erebus

[dapper gyro]

Plasma will still blast them over, lol.

[jade holly]

Typhus shows up on Atoma

Morrow: What’s this now?

[hallow saddle]

like if his attacks hit theyre gonna do a ton of damage and or corruption and or slowdown effects or w/e

[dapper gyro]

Plasma burns!

[jade holly]

Doesn’t Nurgle like Typhus over Mortarion too?

[dry bluff]

Just give us meltaguns and we good

Until the mf revive from death because why not

[dapper gyro]

Also, the damn psyker can just smite (lore smite) with warp fire the hell out of plaque marines.

[hallow saddle]

he'd have to have some kind of invuln phases or else we could just nuke him

4 vets chucking kraks

[jade holly]

Make it so we have to negate his miasma to be able to have a damage phase

[winter pine]

Typhus showing up would probably be a valid reason for Grendyl to just crack Atoma into a million pieces

[jade holly]

But otherwise it’s too impossible to aim or even stay alive to damage him

[jade holly]

Part of me thinks he wants to exterminatus the place, he just wants data on Nurgle

[dapper gyro]

Say, the hp pool would be something like a plaque orgryn, but with carapace level armour.

[dry bluff]

Maybe we need to break his shield first and stop his regen

But it should be multiphase if it’s a sorcerer and it’s definitely gonna be a sorcerer not a typical plague marine

[arctic talon]

Blow the head off and then cave out the chest

It’ll work

Usually

[jade holly]

Plague Marines really do just be the zombie space marines huh?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dry bluff]

These guys are body horror enthusiasts I don’t think it’ll work

[dapper gyro]

Flame grenade from the zealot would also kill it.

[jade holly]

They should make a named Plague Marine and call him Kronenberg

[dry bluff]

They’d just mutate like some resident evil boss

[winter pine]

Death Guard at least are just fatalists who realized they're stuck on the road to total ruin and entropy

Might be more grim than just being mindless zombies

[arctic talon]

Our list of effective weapons against plague marines ingame

Ogryn raw strength
Psyker stuff(all inclusive)
Plasma, power weapons, thunder hammer, krak grenade, fire grenade, flamer

[dry bluff]

I think FS knows it’s just stupid to add Space marine enemies

[jade holly]

Wait are Plague marines and DG two different things or are they like a rectangle and square where is a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn’t a square

[arctic talon]

All DG are plague marines

[dry bluff]

They need to be OP but also balanced so that GW won’t be on their butts

[arctic talon]

Not all plague marines are death guard

[jade holly]

Which is why I want a mission where the target is a Plague marine. Not some random spawn able enemy

A legit dedicated raid boss mission

[winter pine]

There can be totally different plague marine philosophies both within the DG and other plague marines

[arctic talon]

It can be whatever they want balance wise considering 2 nid primes lose to 3 marines

lol

[hallow saddle]

darktide needs a proper boss battle tbh

[arctic talon]

Which is horseshit but whatever

[dry bluff]

A sorcerer but should be a boss

[arctic talon]

lol

[humble shoal]

If we get dg, power scythe

I demand it

[jade holly]

The twins count no?

[arctic talon]

Havoc assassination mission

And also twins

[hallow saddle]

oh yeah true

[arctic talon]

I don’t even like nids

And nids are depicted pretty horribly in SM2 lol

[dry bluff]

Balanced wise yup but tbh Titus is also OP anyway

Mary Sue forever

[winter pine]

very excited for Necrons to be the intro enemy for Titus in Space Marine 3 before he squares off against some Word Bearers

[arctic talon]

I meant in MP PVE

Which is 3 randos

lol

[dry bluff]

Would be nice if it’s the Emps Children

[arctic talon]

He’s about to get cooked in 500 worlds

[surreal nest]

is this also true for rotkin?

[arctic talon]

Because campaign booo moment lol

[humble shoal]

Skin capes return

[dry bluff]

Monogods first we already got Undivided in SM1

[arctic talon]

Depends for them, but for some of them their armor is fleshy and part of them now yeah

[winter pine]

Nah it's got to be Word Bearers for a textbook Ultramarine like Titus, would be a terrible finish for the trilogy if they're not the final enemy

[surreal nest]

or maggotkin sorry

[celest cedar]

Nurgle loves you btw teehee

[arctic talon]

It grows and adapts

But not all maggotkin have like living armor

Some just wear normal enchanted armor

[surreal nest]

also AoS pill

[arctic talon]

Plague marines in 40k are specifically like

[surreal nest]

does anybody know if slaves to darkness can use daemon models

[dry bluff]

Ngl the characteristic of that Thousand Sons sorcerer main villain and how he looks he kinda reminds me of a Emps Children than Magnus’ son

[arctic talon]

very nurgled up

[arctic talon]

Only if you suck off belly K

And you get a weird fucked up roster

Not even the full thing

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/emotiguy-salute-joe-hi-emotiguy-joe-salute-gif-12916449566301630787

[arctic talon]

Daemons get the shortest end of the stick in AoS

Somehow

GW pls

[dry bluff]

Well archaon ain’t doing shit that’s why

[arctic talon]

LOL

[surreal nest]

I want screamers pink horrors and bloodletters with my army of misbegotten kind

[arctic talon]

You get screamers and bloodletters iirc

But no pink horrors

lol

Let me check the belakor list

[surreal nest]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

are slaves to darkness undivided or can you pledge to a certain god like chaos marines

last AoS game question sorry

[winter pine]

very excited to botch my first attempt at painting hazard stripes when I get my first set of Iron Warriors soon

[surreal nest]

Are these chaos furies

https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/chaotic-beasts-2022

[winter pine]

Only Chaos Marine army I'd really play

[arctic talon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Specific units or a specific specialized list

And also a generic army rule

All allow for this

[surreal nest]

I almost abbreviated slaves to darkness as STD

Do you play s2d or something

[arctic talon]

No

I play sylvaneth

lol

But the army rule pledge to chaos

[surreal nest]

Dang you are just a well of knowledge

[arctic talon]

Let’s your units “pledge” to a specific chaos god

lol

And also the Varanguard only list

Has a bunch of other chaos rules

But you have to run a very limited list of stuff

Swords of chaos is only Varanguard

[surreal nest]

they have so many cool models idk why they decided their latest spearhead should be all marauders

[arctic talon]

But you get a weird god options

[arctic talon]

New shit

[surreal nest]

this shoulda been their set minus the daemon prince smh

[arctic talon]

Real

Nah include the daemon prince

Would be a great army starter lol

[surreal nest]

[arctic talon]

Do you like S2D? lol

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the worst part is the Samus, as far as we know, is the only daemon of the Dark King

and yet he looks kinda lame

[surreal nest]

I have always loved chaos warriors but i was unaware of their game they got awesome variety

[arctic talon]

Yeah slaves to darkness are awesome lol

[opaque coyote]

well lame for what is essentially is a Chaos God called a King

[surreal nest]

unfortunately i bought the skaventide box and already wanted to start a skaven army but im tempted to toss it

[arctic talon]

sell it

Or don’t

[opaque coyote]

I honestly imagined the Dark King having the color of tarnished gold

[arctic talon]

Idk I love slaves to darkness lol

Best chaos faction

[opaque coyote]

Like this

[surreal nest]

i super agree they overtook skaven for me the other night when I saw the minotaurs

and the chosen

[arctic talon]

God they need a new generic chaos lord so badly man

Like this dude is fine

But god he’s still on a square lol

[opaque coyote]

His face looks like a grumpy pug

I cannot take that seriously

He's literally pouting

[arctic talon]

CAM ON CHAOS SCORE SOME FACKIN SKULLS

[opaque coyote]

chaos warrior drum man

[arctic talon]

Dude is a chaos chosen btw lol

Favored by the dark gods

Still banging their drum

[opaque coyote]

Does ascending into becoming a Daemon prince still apply to fantasy?

[humble shoal]

Thats why he is favored

[opaque coyote]

Cause if so, I like to imagine that he was offered Daemonhood

Refused because he likes beating his drum

[humble shoal]

Nah he is a greater demon

He just still beats the drum

[arctic talon]

Yes

Also tbf you can still beat the drum as a daemon prince

lol

[lament shoal]

What's this model called?

[opaque coyote]

But it's not the same (tm)

[humble shoal]

He is a champion of tzeentch

[arctic talon]

Chaos chosen

[humble shoal]

The drum can now make guitar spunds

[lament shoal]

Ty

[arctic talon]

Squad musician specifically

lol

[opaque coyote]

Just because you worship the dark gods doesn't mean you can't make sick beats

[arctic talon]

Uh yeah it does

Smh

Dedicate yourself to killing

[opaque coyote]

Genuine question though

I forgot whether worshipping Undivided makes it harder for you to become a Daemon prince.

Because the Gods hate polyamorous relationships

[arctic talon]

It does

But you get way more shit lol

Anyways the eightpoints are lowkey kinda chill as long as you’re a worshipper of chaos, as long as you’re okay with a bit of good old fashioned violence

And not a skaven

[opaque coyote]

"CHOOSE ONE."

"WHY SHOULD I??"

[arctic talon]

No skaven

Archaeon has banned the skaven from the eightpoints

[opaque coyote]

Don't the Chaos Gods all hate the Great Horned Rat?

Like I specifically remember they became absolutely annoyed when Archaon named him the 5th Chaos God

[arctic talon]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Which btw is fucking hilarious to imagine

[arctic talon]

Archaon hates the chaos gods as well

As do a chunk of his followers

[opaque coyote]

"I AM NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GIGANTIC RAT."

Archaon laughing his ass off in the background

[arctic talon]

Anyways the Varanspire has a lot of eating and drinking going on in it

And violence

[humble shoal]

Yes yes good good

Archeon is 10 skaven in an armor set

[opaque coyote]

Tbf he has like the most reason to hate every God.

Like imagine having the events of your life be manipulated, and also turn out to be the Antichrist

[arctic talon]

They have a giant pit where they toss slaves/prisoners/people jump into to fight

lol

[opaque coyote]

Like I would definitely want to kill every type of God

If that happened

[arctic talon]

Daemon princes are banned from participating

As are greater daemons

lol

[opaque coyote]

Too high ELO

[arctic talon]

Ironic that the fights in the funny pit aren’t always to the death

Unless it’s a prisoner or slave then it’s free game

🔪

[opaque coyote]

Fuck

Discord shit the bed

Again

I saw it be posted twice

Deleted one

[arctic talon]

Anyways the one time it isn’t just normal chaos civilization activity at the eightpoints

[opaque coyote]

And it deleted both

[arctic talon]

Is when Nagash’s armies decided to try and lay siege to it

They got pretty far and established a beach head

Before archaon came home, pissed off

[young pecan]

So did the chaos gods very begrudgingly allow Archaon to be the one who brought about the end times

Or did he only minorly piss them off while taking their gifts

[opaque coyote]

He thought bringing the end times would starve Chaos

Unfortunately, that's exactly what Chaos wanted

A new playing field

[young pecan]

What a stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid

[arctic talon]

He only minorly pissed them off and is now their toy/slave which he doesn’t like

He’s trying to kill them now

Which they find entertaining

[young pecan]

Like, now as in AoS now?

[arctic talon]

Archaon thinks he can finally do it this time around

Yes

[young pecan]

Or trapped back in WHF

oo

[arctic talon]

In AoS

Archaon has killed God(s) now

So he’s confidant he could do it maybe

lol

Ignore the fact he’s still marked with the chaos gods blessings

[young pecan]

Why is this dickhead still in the setting and allowed to be literally anything but a dork loser

[opaque coyote]

I definitely think he's gonna become a Chaos God as a result and he's gonna crash out

[young pecan]

He already had his big moment crashing WHF

[arctic talon]

Archaon?

Because he’s the chaos gods favorite toy

He’s their champion

And they love watching him fight lol

Until he’s deposed by one of his varanguard or a daemon prince

[opaque coyote]

Basically they made him the antichrist specifically to rage bait him for all of eternity

[arctic talon]

It’s unlikely for the chaos gods to stop adoring him

[young pecan]

Oh ofc he'd still be strong but I would hope that everything keeps blowing up in his face

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

He had a temper tantrum that caused a bunch of his forces to fuck off and leave

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think it would be funny for him to become a Chaos God

[arctic talon]

Where he screamed about how he’d kill the Gods

In a fit of rage

And bashed in a daemon princes skull because she dared to offend him

Reasonable crash out/j

[young pecan]

Using a small fraction of each gods' powers to kill all gods

That's a really good plan, actually

[arctic talon]

But yeah that caused a wave of the slaves to darkness break off

lol

Some still are following him even if they think he’s stupid

For trying to kill the gods

Others think he was just cursing the chaos gods

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it would make sense if

Say

I don't know. It was a shard of Nurgle against Tzeentch

[arctic talon]

And doesn’t actually want to kill them

lol

And others are like

“Kill the chaos gods? HELL YEAH”

[opaque coyote]

So basically they think it's similar to how some people shout "GOD FUCKING DAMMIT" in anger

[arctic talon]

Yes

lol

[young pecan]

If his goal was to make chaos go away, then you can only guess he's being genuine

[arctic talon]

His goal to all his not high ranking followers is to conquer the mortal realms and rule over them as the rightful ruler

[opaque coyote]

"I WANT TO KILL THEM. I WANT TO KILL THEM ALL. I WANT TO FUCKING RIP TZEENTCH IN HALF, MAKE KHORNE TASTE MY BLADE AS I SHOVE IT UP HIS ASS, AND-"

"Man this guy is really angry. I'm sure he doesn't want to actually kill the Chaos Gods though."

[arctic talon]

His goal as known to his inner circle is “IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL THE GODS AND THEN THE DARK GODS”

[sterile basalt]

in lore what guns do psykers normally have?

[arctic talon]

Laspistols are common, as are plasma pistols

Aside from that it varies

[wet sandal]

Pointed to their head mostly

[opaque coyote]

Like Elite said, basically the same as everyone else

[young pecan]

It's a really good idea to kill the good gods first, actually

[arctic talon]

Boltpistols, las pistols, plasma pistols

[sterile basalt]

shredders or no?

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, they're weaker.

[arctic talon]

I can’t tell if you’re being ironic or not

[arctic talon]

Auto pistols usually no but some carry them

The guard doesn’t favor auto weapons generally

[arctic talon]

He wants to consume the non chaos gods powers

[opaque coyote]

He could possibly want to use their corpses to somehow find a way to slay the Dark Gods somehow

[sterile basalt]

got it

[opaque coyote]

So basically his plan is to ween off the Chaos Juice and become his own independent being

[arctic talon]

Archaon figured out how to drain power from a “god” he’s slain

[late verge]

whats the difference bwteen an adsecularis/tech thrall and a servitor?

[arctic talon]

Maybe it’s unclear

[arctic talon]

Tech thralls aren’t lobotomized

And are considered lower then servitors in terms of worth

Their bodies get forced to do actions

[opaque coyote]

Either way, I should get into fantasy/AoS. This sounds interesting

[late verge]

lots of servitors aren't eitherd tho no?

[young pecan]

I am
This guy has chronic debilitating mental malfunctions

[nocturne crest]

The pistols look like a 1911 and a luger had a baby.

[arctic talon]

Servitors by definition are lobotomized

[arctic talon]

Yeah no he’s blinded by anger and hate towards the chaos gods lol

His actual military plans are generally good

His overall plan is awful

[opaque coyote]

He's basically in an eternal state of crash out

[jade holly]

What is the name of the gigantic looking revolver some Hive Gangers use?

[opaque coyote]

Well that and cost sunk fallacy

[arctic talon]

Stub revolver

[late verge]

servitors tbf seem like they'd be moderately valued in some circumstances bc of how relatively expensive their components are compare to some random ass slave or menial or serf

[celest cedar]

looked like a beretta to me

[arctic talon]

Yep, you nailed it

[late verge]

valued in dthe same way an expensive machine is

[celest cedar]

someone said looked similar to a repetierpistole m1912

[young pecan]

get power from bad gods, bad gods get control over me in return
I will kill the good gods and take their power
this will not benefit the bad gods in any way

[arctic talon]

Tech thralls are literally slaves they mutilated and jammed some shit in

And their armor forces them to move in a specific way and fight lol

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the power he got from the bad gods was

More so forced upon him. He was basically born to be the antichrist

[late verge]

even worse than servitors lol

[wet sandal]

Tech thralls are.... thralls with tech

GW does it again

[jade holly]

So what’s the one we have in game called?

[arctic talon]

Also Sigmar told Archaon he was sorry he couldn’t save or help him in the past

[late verge]

the same

[arctic talon]

Stub revolver

[jade holly]

Bruh

[celest cedar]

Sigmar mentioned

[arctic talon]

Archaon responded by spitting at sigmar and trying to kill him with his spear

lol

[jade holly]

give Ogryn the big Stub Revolver then

[nocturne crest]

Maybe?

[arctic talon]

As you can tell Archaon is very rational and sane

And totally Not angry

Or spiteful or bitter

[jade holly]

And when the Hell are we gonna get Slab Shield gun combo Ogryn??

It’s literally in one of the three arts on their skill tree

[celest cedar]

its just illustration

[opaque coyote]

Realize my mistakes and that my journey was pointless? That I ultimately failed?

❌

Dig even deeper into the hole I dug myself into?

✅

[arctic talon]

Sigmar literally offered to free his soul btw lol

Archaon is the king of crashing out in AoS rn

It’s great

[young pecan]

Fr??

[vagrant fox]

archaon continues to be the coolest mfer around

[arctic talon]

Yes, Archaon is pissed at sigmar

lol

He never had his prayers answered in the past

[young pecan]

I thought when you said that, that Sigmar was apologizing for the fact that he could not EVER save him, past or present

[arctic talon]

And now after an eternity of being the chaos gods slaves

[young pecan]

This guy is NOT sentient chat

[late verge]

kina surdprised that they primarily seem to be a 30k thing, id think 40k mech woul keep using something so cheap an expendable

[arctic talon]

He gets offered a chance

[arctic talon]

They’re common in 40k as well

They’re only locked to 30k for tabletop reasons

All the 30k stuff is in 40k aside from the castellax battle automata

[late verge]

huh thats kina stupiddd ddbdut yk

[arctic talon]

And battle automata are usually restricted to defensive warfare

[arctic talon]

Blame GW’s sales department lol

It’s stupid

[late verge]

ik lol everything bad is dtheir fault

/genuine

[young pecan]

Archaon reminds me of stupid 40k space marine bravado, except if it didn't go well every single time

[arctic talon]

It’s their sales department

Specifically lol

They want to keep 40k and 30k nearly completely separate for sales tracking

Which is fucking stupid

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, ignoring the overall high stakes, Archaon is a pretty interesting character to me. Tragedy is not an excuse for him, but his tragedy is an interesting explanation.

And also the dangers of spite and cost-sunk fallacy.

He could accept Sigmar's offer. But

He never saved him before. He never saved him when his village got attacked, or when he was prophesied to be the Champion of Chaos.
He didn't even know that Sigmar existed until Fantasy exploded.

Why would he accept it now?

It's already too late for him.

[arctic talon]

Archaon was scared he’d become sigmars slave when he offered that lol

[arctic talon]

Yeeep

lol

He’s also terrified of being under anyone ever again

[late verge]

cause theyre not very smart right? i read their "brains" are similar to animals & so they can only perform very basic tasks, so not great for complex battles

[arctic talon]

He wants to be free

[young pecan]

Slave of good <<<< slave of bad

[arctic talon]

Yeah they need a handler in essence

You know the 40k units have the cybernerica datasmith

[young pecan]

I get where he's coming from, I think it's funny to dunk on him though

[arctic talon]

Automata in modern day 40k usually have one assigned to help

[young pecan]

Brother is horrifically traumatized

[arctic talon]

It’s hilarious lol

[late verge]

neat im gonna odgo fixd my keybbdoar dnodw

[opaque coyote]

Tbf for Archaon. He sees none of them as good.

Only bad.

The "good" gods are just weaker ones to him

[arctic talon]

It’s fun to shit on him because of how tragic he is

[opaque coyote]

Despite the fact that he is definitely no longer human in body.

It is fitting that he is the "champion of mortals".

Because his flaws are deeply human.

Spite, misplaced hatred, anger

A want to make sense of it all

[arctic talon]

He’s literally labeled as a daemon prince in the battle tome lol

[opaque coyote]

A want for freedom

[arctic talon]

He’s def no longer truly human

[opaque coyote]

I think he never takes off his helmet because he doesn't want to see what he looks like now

[arctic talon]

Also it’s hilarious how he refuses to answer his followers about his origin

[opaque coyote]

Because some part of him definitely knows that he isn't human anymore

[arctic talon]

He just lets them speculate

Some people think he’s sigmars brother

Which in fact

Makes him extremely angry

[opaque coyote]

How to rage bait Archaon even more

Ship him and Sigmar

Step two

Run as fast as you can (you will not escape)

[arctic talon]

There’s one in universe theory that’s correct on his origin

Which is that he used to serve sigmar lol

[young pecan]

So about ascending to daemonhood
I thought daemons were made of the warp energy made from collective consciousness, so if a person ascends to daemonhood, are they purely warp and no longer a truly sentient individual?

Or is it like a halfsies sorta thing

[arctic talon]

In AoS it’s different

In 40k it’s, weird

[opaque coyote]

Yesn't.

[arctic talon]

If a person ascends to daemonhood they keep all their memories and personality

But their soul is no longer theirs in 40k

[opaque coyote]

You still have your mind and thoughts but you can no longer go against the Chaos God ideals.

[arctic talon]

It’s part of the greater whole of a chaos god now

[arctic talon]

You can go against it until they pull the leash

In AoS/whfb daemon princes are simply mortals greatly empowered by the chaos gods

To the point where they’re no longer human in terms of how they interact with the world

[zenith remnant]

You don't really stay the same person. Becoming of the warp drastically reshapes your perceptions and intuitions.

[opaque coyote]

Basically

If a Nurgle Demon prince wants to make a sandwich for some reason

They can

Unless if Nurgle doesn't allow it

[young pecan]

True regardless

[opaque coyote]

Then they physically can't order a sandwich

Despite how much they really want that BLT

[young pecan]

I think that all makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Does the "leash" still exist?

[young pecan]

So in AoS they keep all of their mind, but they have puppet strings on their bodies?

[opaque coyote]

Or even as a Daemon prince you can go against them

[sacred ginkgo]

Identity Contamination!!!!!!!

[opaque coyote]

Chaos is just late stage capitalism

"congratulations you're a CEO, your soul is lost and belongs to Nurgle.INC now"

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-bird-bird-damn-distraction-pukeko-gif-930861285998444136

[sacred ginkgo]

Was not the original intent but I'll roll with it

[opaque coyote]

DAMN!!

[green loom]

Sometimes it ends okay, like the world eater in fall of cadia that gets force femd

[opaque coyote]

Huh

[celest cedar]

wha

[opaque coyote]

Explain

[young pecan]

I like when people refer to it as the Damn Bird so it sounds like they're frustrated with it

[green loom]

Okay, not actually what happens

[sacred ginkgo]

Awww

[celest cedar]

dont backpedal now

you got the whole class listening

[green loom]

But iirc the daemon that's been actively following him is a weirdly seductive more fem leaning khorne daemon, and when he ascends she kinda pushes his soul out

Or something idr

[young pecan]

Weirdly seductive more fem leaning khorne daemon may be a unique sentence

[green loom]

Well daemons don't really operate on that spectrum so the closest you get is "approximately lady-like"

[celest cedar]

I still think of you as iron leggy bird

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/valkia-khorne-gif-26441238

[young pecan]

Real ones know that's because I used to be obsessed with Ironhelm

Now I am just Leggy Bird

[green loom]

I might be wholly misremembering but if I am I am going to use this idea for a char

[celest cedar]

what happened

[young pecan]

Scab enemy HP buffs

Nuked Ironhelm auric usability

All hail Crucis

[arctic talon]

Only if you get banished

[arctic talon]

She’s a daemon prince so she doesn’t count

[arctic talon]

Nope you remembered it all perfectly lol

[green loom]

World eater force fem is canon

[vagrant fox]

Artesia is a funny daemon, weird shadow thing

[green loom]

[raven stone]

Morning, foul mood, dumbass question

How do single women not suffer from the existential dread of dying alone and forgotten!?

It boggles my mind, genuinely

Because I sincerely get that sort of existential dread

[celest cedar]

uhm they do lol

[raven stone]

And I have 0 idea how by Terra women can so easily overlook/cope/ignore that

[humble shoal]

We all fear true death, when nothing is left of ones existence

[raven stone]

...not if all the online discourses I have been seeing/my dating app experiences are showing me :/

Like OK ignore dating apps for now

[celest cedar]

you just need to talk with them xd
and preferably outside dating apps

[raven stone]

My FB feeds shows some women just keep hammering on about how women don't need men

[surreal nest]

because women typically dont align their societal worth with their inability to find a partner like men do

[celest cedar]

I generally avoid those content because its mostly gender bashing

[raven stone]

But I am more talking about the concept of living and eventually dying alone

Like, not even what society thinks

But the concept that your only worth is to be a working cog

With no special meaning to anyone else outside of work

With no one to appreciate you on a personal level

Somehow women enjoy their modern freedoms so much they apparently don't even feel the above!?

[surreal nest]

to well adjusted people being single isn't a big deal idk what you're saying

[wet sandal]

Well adjusted people can in fact be lonely

"big deal" is too broad a term

[green loom]

You eventually get used to prolonged lack of social interaction

[raven stone]

(I mean maybe I am too lonely?)

[green loom]

This is called going crazy

[surreal nest]

single doesnt inherently mean lonely though which is what the connection he is making is

[wet sandal]

Cope

[raven stone]

Nah, they did qualify it with "going Crazy"

[green loom]

Hey I haven't left the house in years and I'm fine 😎

[wet sandal]

Cope

All power to ya tbh, but sincerely I very much doubt you are fine

[humble shoal]

Im on a train choo choo

[celest cedar]

eeeh Im pretty sure they feel some type of loneliness too

[green loom]

It's true I do play foxhole, generally a bad sign for the average person

[surreal nest]

Like we are saying "how do single women not cope with the idea that they will die alone" and treating it like thats a normal thing to say

[celest cedar]

surface level appearance dont necessarily show whats under and all that

[green loom]

Also the people saying "x doesn't mean y" are basically all grifter filth

The internet has no advice, it has entertainment

[celest cedar]

I think your perspective on the matter is too askewed by shown content thats meant to incite some discourse 💀

[green loom]

Okay not true but 99% of internet commentator stuff is just pure nonsense grift

There's no separation on people with this we're all quite equally fucked in the head

[surreal nest]

I hate to see your feed if there's no joy or genuine people in it

[raven stone]

Yea, maybe I really should try to stop over thinking about it. I traveled to HK for a break, not to drive myself off the deep(er) end.

[raven stone]

TBF Facebook is half dead nowadays

[green loom]

Half is generous

[celest cedar]

just have a talk with women, or people in general thats outside of the context of dating or engaging in some gender discourse xd

[green loom]

Or the internet, ideally

[celest cedar]

no you can have good convos in the internet

[raven stone]

(Like this one lol)

[green loom]

Yes but ideal rule of thumb

[surreal nest]

It turns out when you treat people like people you begin to understand them more

[celest cedar]

its not ideal rule of thumb 💀

people is the same, just different method of comms

[celest cedar]

ye

[green loom]

Okay admittedly bad source since I haven't had prolonged interactions with people in 4 years

[celest cedar]

like skewed perceptions plays a part on warping your perspective and all