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hopefully we get some gear related to them
Like having civilian conspricts isn't far behind either
Our standards are getting low enough to recruit gangers, even with Arbitrator presence
Still can only afford 4 people per high-value mission
please dont call them arbitrators it hurts my eyes
Arbytraties
i hate you
"Times are desperate we need to pull some goons off the street" is how we got the original rejects except they were already in jail
we need more goons
acquire more goons
A goon squad if you will
Send in the 24th wave
An arbitrator does arbitration which the arbites do not do
Unless you count shooting people as resolving disputes
For reasons unrelated to the dispute
If you've got a dispute you can count on an arbites to arbitrate it by randomly shooting one party and the other party wins
Arbitrator is a real life job title unrelated to what the arbites do
Just shoot them both
not some fucking tax collector
Dispute arbitrated
Its also a space ship in star wars i think
I like arbites as IRS quick response death squads because of the perspective it gives on the tithe but they shouldn't be crunching the numbers
Arbites do have an ATF vibe
An arbitrator would work in the administratum
Or be in a galaxy far far away apparently
i dont like them associated with taxes. it makes them lame as fuck. they're better as 80's action movie cops who have unchecked power and overwhelming brutality
Naming a super star destroyer arbitrator is pretty funny i think
i dont think of anything cool when i think of taxes
is there a single human that does
No but its funny to kill people over them
Also maybe a CPA
Well, the arbites had a marshall to lead them into combat into Darktide, so maybe another inquistor turns up and starts recruiting hive scum, which Rannick and his boss follow with.
You never know
Certified public accountant
put up your mitts we're fighting now
i know chemists are famously weak in upper body strength
I take the chemicals and they made me a strong mutant actually
shit
I do have to fight batman every few weeks
why is your pfp yer baby
Why are you asking that knowing what it is
I love explaining my shit pfp was drawn by ringo starr and that he sells prints for like $5k
He drew it in fucking kidpix
Arbites having a marshall makes sense, but why would another inquisitor show up just to recruit some gangers? I mean they could, but there's really no indication of that
That's a good point. Maybe we'll have a ganger house reach out to the inquisition?
What's with you and gangers having some inexplicable connection to the inquisition
Zola went to the water cartel, that's all we really know
Another inquisitor would probably not be welcomed by grendyl from what we speculate lol
Desperate times, call for desperate measures. Now buy my chem stims the cartel special.
💀
Inquisitor said I can
Though maybe former interrogators of grendyl?
Our boss seems pretty radical and also might mysteriously entombed in the mourningstar i doubt he likes puritans sniffing about
Hell "bring the grimoires back" would start a gunfight at a conclave
Capturing grimores is pretty normal tbh
For radicals, sure
Doesn't take a radical to decide that something should be preserved to fight the fight
Rannick is only an interrogator, right?
Yeah for now
Serving under Grendyl?
Unless its the type thats hard to destroy and these ones seem prone to catching fire
This is the definition of a radical lol
Yeah that’s radical activity
Using chaos against itself
Learning its ways
A puritan would have it burned
Learning isn't the same as using
Also puritans consider any radical behavior very radical
Eisenhorn ||is probably one of the most moral radicals, usually* using it in the best way possible, and is still for sure absolutely a crazy radical||
Even puritans have to study there enemy at some point
He's gotten increasingly wacky as is the way with these things
I mean the retrieval of a heretical object is considered a radical action
I saved the rations, what does that mean?
Literally aforementioned guy's thoughts on it
They’d study through imperial sources or by observation
It fits 40k more that they have a lethal elite justice force that steps in when you dont give them protection money essentially
Not the enemy itself
I think around 60% of community saved rations too
arbites just run a protection racket really
Or was it 51%?
the entire Imperium is a protection racket
A puritan wouldn’t retrieve heretical objects to “learn” from them
Certainly not grimoires that corrupt you on contact
Seemed close, but I'm glad we won.
pay tithes, and maybe we send the IG to help you when you get invaded (or have a classist uprising)
I should put you down
The grims are nasty artifacts based on how much influence they have even closed
I just love that Arbites showed up annoyed that the planet is being fucked enough to where they aren't getting their money
Enjoy faeces-covered food
🗣️ Inquisitor Martyr radical renegade Inquisitor and Rogue Trader heretical with some iconoclast.
You can hear the fucking things whispering from 30 feet
Dark heresy if you go heretical
do we have any lore excerpts of arbites fighting xenos
Like i said, gunfight at the conclave type shit
You’re going balls to the walls
eisenhorn is such a bitch lol
lol
We have a video of it
lol
Agreed
i am the eisenhorn hater
dont say killteam trailer
Tithes
I imagine arbites mostly encounter genestealers and dark eldar
and chaos cults
Yeah they Merc Tyranids
yuo mean outisde of general crimincal behavior?
Those arent xenos
im curious as to how effective arbites actually are
enslavers ahve been making the routes
how rigorous is their training
""Alpha"" psyker
Still needs to use a secondary magic system revolving around funny words to do anything impactful
It’s from tithes
Okay Eisenhorn
Very
literal darktide tier shit
Genestealers for obvious reasons and then dark eldar love raiding which is bad for productive capacity
I thought this was KT trailer for some reason
wtf ive never seen this lmao
they go through the same sort of hellish obstacle course as all the other militant minded people in the schola progenium
Which means. They get
THE WALL
they still do
arbites r firefighters
The sisters of battle got the version with a flamethrower
Instead of a water cannon
And that was the lore on it
like, jim crow law
But yeah the wall is probably an indication of like
The arbites going through a great level of rigor
Likely less then the Scions and Sororitas overall
But they still have to do a lot of the live fire shit
Im very curious why they'd be fighting gaunts
retriving a tithe of psykers from a planet, nid vanguard force was sent
If the imperium were to fall what would be the most likely successor society for humans?
they're collecting the psyker tithe for the Black Ships in the middle of a Tyranid invasion
Oh lol yeah they'd do that
and also yeah Lictors as well

Lictors fucking eat like
5 arbites
in that episode of the tithes
and a few of the arbites die to gaunts/von ryans when they get overrun
lol
but they do a good job
Lore lictors are horrifying lol
considering they're out numbered and in the open lol
But yeah climbing a wall in full armor, while wearing a full backpack of shit + a loaded gun + being shot at
is a pretty good indication the arbites are pretty physically fit
Pockets of humanity fending for themselves which is essentially what the Imperium is now, they would just not have a central leadership anymore and just persevere as humanity always does, it would essentially be Unification Era Terra on a galactic scale which is awesome
Funniest Arbites representation we have is tied between that one Rogue Trader article, and that one conversation between Maul and Seer
Anyways the Schola Progenium funny wall is like
the hell test
rock climbing is already hard enough
now do it while being shot at with live rounds and wearing armor + wearing a full backpack of shit lol
Imperium Secundus with Guilliman and Imperium Nihilus by Dante would remain
My ass scheduling my wall on a low g planet
smh
you think they don't standardize the gravity
everyone gets good ol terran gravity
anyone whos too slow up the wall gets shot as well lmao
so sometimes schola students throw themselves off the wall instead
which gets them a beating instead of getting shot(if they survive the fall)
When I'm in a making stupid nonsensical bullshit up challenge and my opponent is a 40k author
tbf
its similar to irl military training
just without getting shot at
lol
and its for kids
jarhead moment
I think i'd spend a lot of time on rock climing practice
The getting shot at part is the MOST important part 
Look
its not like thats the first time they gotta climb a wall
anyways arbites are more elite then guardsmen in terms of raw training but they're trained for different stuff
if that makes sense
perfectly so
Do they also have to do it while assistants at the top randomly drop boulders on them
They should bring up schola graduates climbing proficiency more in lore
also arbites need to do a bunch of nerdy data stuff as well
no
they do need to climb back down without getting shot at though
lol
Now check this out as I ruin this whole discussion with our favorite power scaling stupid question
how many arbites to a space marine
That does sound pretty cool
bad
one with a grenade launcher or melta
next question
1 and 999 and none at all
A bunch of scions effortlessly ascending a mountain "just like my school days"
LOL
Next question
Who let the people who hate birth rates control the Schola
Its basically the Imperium's eventual fate if theres no plot armor involved, it will just shatter and all imperial factions will either:
- Keep or attempt to keep the idea of the Imperium alive
- Seperate and break into warlord factions
no in-between really
its just an Age of Strife but everyone has all the toys
when faced with the worst possible reality that they've already been living in for hundreds of years, given the chance to reforge themselves in an age of strife, humankind chooses to keep the baby grinder factories
I think that's accurate
Exactly
We could literally fix all the worlds problems but we simply dont
Honestly if the imperium broke up i could see mars taking over
because money, power, positions above others etc
its cynical but it is what it is
we still make do with what we got
i think mars goes with the imperium
They've got a largely independent galaxywide network
Its not possible, Mars would at best have some frontier colonies but thats it really
also you forget
all forgeworlds got their own loyalties
some dont even like Mars
They'd find some replacement tech
because we need tabletop armies to fight each other lol
Humans need to invent a new warp travel tech yeah lol
I lost all of my love for admech after how the darktide community reacted to hive scum
they should EXPLODE
hope you stub your toe smh
You can do it but it'd probably take forever
I never should have given you that gif LOL
I am one of like two admech hopers who didn't react like a child to the news
Ganger sounds really fun and everyone else should kick rocks
Am I number 2 then
lmao
BUT I LOVE IT
I guess so
ITS REALLY GOOD
the gigabrain admech fans know now the next class reveal is 100% a techpriest lol
yeah
Theres like
not much left, unless they do some REALLY weird shit
lol
or they do something unique
Our day will come 😈
I totally get disappointment but I've genuinely never seen a community that angry over nothing before
like actual seething rage
its so weird lol
people are literally shadowboxing
me collecting all the odogaron gifs
my favorite part is how it INSTANTLY blew over after 1 DAY
subreddit is still malding
Odogaron is such a cool monster lol
Odogaron is my number 2 monster, first always goes to nergigante
I too, wished for admech, but after seeing the ganger, I still feel very excited for it. I am debating whether or not I should make art of it. No, I will. In due time.
Fiver/j
Nergi is cool
that place doesnt exist
I learned that it is better to be happy for the success of others, rather than being upset for oneself.
FatShark Forums too
I feel like Roy Batty about it all
I've seen things you wouldn't believe, seen crying manchildren get banned en masse
I wish I had the energy to be upset over a video game not adding exactly what I dreamed of
Also shithole
i legit got no idea why anyone would use either of those lol
ngl fatshark forums gives me heavy 4chan vibes at time
to drink Admech tears
thats basically because it is tbh
i actually cant bring myself anywhere near there
at least for now
I saw one guy whine about the class and when I checked the chat again after 8 hours of sleeping he was still there saying the same things on a loop
and also to check which mods are currently broke due to the new patch
Proof these people aren't real
tHEY JUST ARENT REAL
Prototype is on sale nobody panic
I just think the self rope jokes are funny
i really need to play the new vt2 maps, Im so not caught up
I think I finished the dwarf one and thats it
Got it yesterday.
How necessary are the DLC? They're all for sale for like 15 dollars
I don't play that fantasy trash the characters have no depth besides being assholes 💯 💯
winds of magic comes with some really strong weapons lol
the weapons are really worth it
Elven Spear and Shield
super super fun
which DLC is axe and falchion?
that's 90% of the reason I want to play a game
to be a vicarious asshole
but yeah spear and shield is kind of stupidly strong on Kerellian
I liked the dlcs but I never got winds
Personally im a huge fan of RV throwing axe build
Handmaiden Kerellian literally cannot die with it if you play it right
Its actually really fun
lol
and allow me to murder hobo my way through Nevada/California/Washington etc in Fallout
generate unlimited ammo have perma attack speed uptime and you can cleave hordes
also each axe does like 40 damage to teammates
the spear and shield does have 1 tiny issue
kay, guess the resounding consensus is that I should throw money at fatshark
it has dogshit damage
lol
but hey
you will literally die after an ironbreaker baradin
so does it really matter?

If I stream a game for my friend who only does good things in games I'll instantly be as evil as possible
In about 1½ hours of Mass Effect I got more naughty points than he ever had. Some people need to live a little smh
going renegade in ME didn't feel right imho
like, I'm a military government contractor given a mandate to break any law to do the Council's work
ignoring all their calls doesn't feel like they're going to maintain my Spectre status
What are they gonna do? Fire me?
They 'fired' Saren, so yeah. It's a possibility.
Granted, you'd have to do something like working with AI, or a terrorist groups, or cause an interspacial incident...
I just had the same mindset I had when playing q Rogue Trader TTRPG game
I can do what I want and I'll prove it by bombarding whatever fool is annoying from orbit
It works tell you hwat
yeah, it works in the game, but as a 'role play' it felt sort of off to me.
and I'd rather keep my Shep's face clean and unscarred, and not looking like the T-101 after a fire bath.
I forget, is Papa Nurgle somewhat based in actual lore or is Nurgle more of a toxic positivity manipulator to his followers?
I mean... he loves you?
I guess?
Is love based or cringe now a days?
I get that part, but is it truly love or is he putting a form of facade on
It's creepy uncle sort of love.
like, I don't care what you feel about me, I'm going to force my love onto you sort of vibe
and all the sickness and suffering is basically Nurgle going, "Why don't you love me? If you did, all this pain could go away."
so seriously abusive relations tier love
Actual love isn't in the portfolio of the god of despair, decay, and disease
I joke about nurgle gaslighting and abusing but imho it's not far from what happens
I hate phone keyboards so much
frfr
The thing he offers is toxic doomer-esque positivity yeah
its the sense that the easiest thing is to give up and give into the despair that rots and destroys everything before renewing it with new disgusting pestilent life
Loner Psyker has a great line about it
Giving her a shield feels wrong lmao
Oh wait nvm I misread that
Thought you said Kibellah 💀
There should be a high elf in vermintide 3 so I can larp as a white lion and be virulently racist
So odd question, but is there a limit on how many classes they can have in Darktide?
You can literally do that in V2
as long as it's not something lore breaking like a Space Marine, Custodes, Warhound-Class TItan, then no
I feel like they should do eight classes in total.
She's a high elf in the Handmaiden class, the same way she's a Dark Elf in her Shade class
As long as they don't run out of vas they can do a lot
7 8
This is too woke for me, once a wood elf always a woodelf. I heard it on the Ulthuan Patriot radio channel
Does the imperium have a holy number?
Thinking about how M Judge has a collection of left feet the arbitrators dog brought him
Saying it was a "test"

I think that dogs just particularly weird
Na, not that I know of
Just finished the new naked gun, it’s rather funny
Sixty seven I think
Two chaos gods gain strength every time a gen z says “six seven”
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Khorne and nurgle right?
Khornes number is 8 to my knowledge
So who would have 6 and seven?
Since we're talking about numbers, why does Loner psyker say "by the five rusting spires"
Unknown
I assumed that meant the five major chaos entities
If we assume whats his face is major
Nice
13 I'd the ghr
7 would be nurgle right?
3 and 7 I believe
he gets two numbers because he's a boomer
I wonder has an IoM administrator indirectly caused mass starvation just by simply mis-inputting some wrong data in the spreadsheet?
Maybe the five rusting spires thing means the major civilizations that have either fallen from grace or are stagnant?
Yes
Many times
Tau aren’t stagnant(yet)
Class Name: Administrator.
Class Ability: Misinput.
Kills 1 to 1,000,000 civilians on a random imperial world via starvation.
It's not an unusual thing to happen, the story Watcher in The Rain deals with that administration thing
That was my only issue with the theory, I'm not eduacted on the Tau like at all
Is there another major race that could stand in for them
I thought they were prosperous and inventive
They do invent
I know they sometimes have to trade with Imperium but that they are otherwise decently well off
Ahhh
It’s also their greatest issue
They’re stagnant now due to their culture being so stiff
And unwilling to change
Elite which planet was lost due to a clerical error and an invasion was sent to invade in order to make up for a few many thousands of years of tithe debt
Smh you're supposed to know
It was Grissen
Due to a clerical error in the Imperium's labyrinthine bureaucracy, the once-prosperous world of Grissen had gone unnoticed until a mid-level functionary discovered that the planetary tithes were now some eight thousand years overdue.
Very sensible
Peak
So
Tzeentch's primary color is blue.
Ironically, it's often a color associated with trust and loyalty. Along with stability and intelligence as well.
Slaanesh's is purple, commonly associated with royalty, spirituality, and imagination. This is also shown with how they're called Prince/Princess and the constant art themes.
Green is a color of nature, harmony, and health. It's why most healing stuff in games are either red or green.
Red is a color of energy, passion and intimacy. It is biologically, the first color we notice, because of the color of blood. This is also why it represents danger.
And finally Gold, the color of wealth and success. Commonly associated with prestige, influence, and prosperity.
I find it funny that for all of the meanings of these colors. The Chaos Gods represent a corrupted version of it.
Including Gold.
I wouldn't exactly call the Imperium successful or wealthy
It is the opposite of prosperity
A dying empire scratching at anything that dares comes close
Hurting itself in a vain attempt to just stay alive as an entity just a little bit longer
is alpha legion confirmed loyal now?
uh
They're renegade at best
Traitors most often and often likely
Most of them are in it for themselves now
There is a chance that Omegon is currently influencing and coordinating things behind the scenes, but it's not like they know that
But by the majority of the allegiance of the operators currently active
Traitors
Also find it funny that for all of Slaanesh's know titles.
Not one call them a queen/king.
Even Lord is just a title for someone who has authority and power over others. Not necessarily the ultimate authority.
The crown is saved for a much darker being perhaps...
I think it's because Prince/Princess is an endearing term, naturally
And because they're all brothers, being "king" implies that you are above them
That's just my take though
anyone know what particular voicework the new hive scum personalities have done before
Their names are all dropped so you could probably look it up
I'm curious too but I'm too lazy
entire Warhammer TV animation was about that where they use up an entire 2 or 3 squads worth of IG just to get some ammo from some camp and end up getting the wrong bullets so they have to throw them away
GW couldn't get King of Kink trademarked lol
What the fuck no
Where did you get that from
Genuine question
worst part is was that the bullets were right, they just literally couldn't store anymore bullets lol
Since force and power weapons are pretty rare and expensive even for space marine chapters, are librarians ever equipped with chain weapons or do the chapters make sure they get the best stuff?
power weapons aren't very rare by space marine standards
chainswords just have different uses
Adding onto what Jay said, libarians will pretty much always use force weapons. You can turn any melee weapon into a force weapon
King of Kink genuinely is a good title for Slaanesh

But that aside, I think it's to allude to how the Dark King is seemingly the penultimate chaos god
So much so that he is called a King
Just by the psyker's powers or do you mean a chain sword and be mechanically altered to be used as a force weapon?
And th titles for anything else are missing
Theoretically yes, but it isn't just enhancing it with Psyker powers
Force weapons usually are specially made to be able to channel Psyker energy through it better
The psyker uses the psy reactive materials the weapon is made with to channel their power through it
Generally, the method of making one depends on the race
Although for Aeldari like
...
Technically most of their weapons are force weapons
You need Psyker powers to be able to even use them
They literally have no trigger for the guns because of that
Hm
Force weapons don't have trigger.
Of course Deldar lost their Psyker powers so their guns have triggers and shit.
It is the psyker channeling the power at their will.
Yeah a lot of force weapons are Aeldari made
Although there are definitely some made in the Imperium
(doy)
Eldar has peak force weapons, necrons have peak power weapons.
The other factions are in between.
Unless you're Trazyn.
Then you have the Empathic Obliterator that does psychic damage while not being a psychic weapon.
Meanwhile my homebrew chapter master turning a xenophase blade into a force sword lmao
Isn't that sort of like taking a sword and beating it on a rock until it makes a good club?
I don't think so
Generally in terms of technology. I would rank
- Necron
- Deldar
- Aeldari
- Votann
- Imperium
- Chaos
- T'au
- Exodites
where's votaan
Oh shit yeah
i'd say tau have better tech than imperium just because on average they field way better shit than what most of the imperium has access to
They use different techs. The necron and eldar/deldar tech are as good.
I would say that the Imperium is more advanced than the T'au (at the moment).
It's just that the T'au have this rare thing called "actually wanting their soldiers back alive". So they generally equip their soldiers with better shit
I think in terms of military capabilities, yeah it's true.
Although again, I'm not sure how much of it is actual advancement or just
The difference in terms of caring about their soldiers lives.
Although, I definitely think the Imperium is more advanced in Medicine ironically enough
And also biological enhancement
Pre imperium humans are pretty up there.
Also let's be fair here
The Mechanicus has most of the good shit

The Imperium gets the scraps
Not even including archaeotech, the Mechanicus just hordes the higher quality stuff in general
Though, at their peak, Necron = Eldar for power vs psychic, then human (pre imperium+ Votann), then others.
Their average soldiers get fancy guns with electrified servitor bullets.
The average Imperial Guard gets the fucking flashlight
Yeah in general, the T'au are more sensible
that's mostly because the imperium is so comedically evil by comparison
Which I think it's hard to say they're more advanced.
Because how much of it is the Imperium just not caring to make it more safe.
Like the Pulse vs Plasma gun
I think the Imperium Plasma Gun is more damaging (do not quote me on this).
It's just that it also has a higher rate of malfunction
...
And usually that malfunction causes the user to melt
Meanwhile the Pulse rifles are less damaging, but still extremely deadly.
And more importantly, have much less of a chance to explode in your face
If your plasma weapon explodes in your face, skill issue
Recite the correct prayers to its machine spirit next time

Aren't plasma guns perfectly reliable if you don't overuse them and if they're in good condition?
Or is there always chance of exploding
tabletop wise it's only when overcharged that they have a chance to explode. in lore they're just unstable
modern plasma is actually more stable than older
but it comes at less power
Lore wise they have a “stable” point
But lore wise sometimes they cock up and do the heat dump early
Also common misconception plasma guns don’t explode when they overheat
They just vent hot gas all over you as a safety measure to prevent the plasma gun from exploding
A plasma gun exploding is a containment failure
Usually a plasma gun doesn’t kill you when it overheats
It just maims you
Or cripples you for life if you’re weak
I remember in one of the dark angels books a marine has his plasma gun sabotaged by some fellow dark angels because he found out too much about something. He survives but pretty much immediately figures out it was an assassination attempt because he takes good care of his gun and such an incident had never happened before
Yeah plasma guns don’t explode randomly
You don’t have a chance to get horrific 3rd degree burns everytime you shoot it
You only have a chance to get horrific 3rd degree burns with sustained use and not allowing it to properly cool off between shots
I think the pulse rifles work similarly
which is why ogryns cant use any
Pulse rifles are similar to plasma weapons yeah
But tau plasma is “colder”
Aside from larger forms of it
They're less powerful than the Imperium Plasmas.
But in exchange, they don't vent heat into your face
Because they actually care about wanting their soldiers back
Or well surviving more than one battle
I love plasma pistols man, they're so cool
cause horrific burns and electrical scars to the Tau using them
when they overload lol
Ion is arguably the Tau's analogue to plasma
the Tau care about their soldiers marginally more but its not like they don't hand someone "gun that can overload horrifically and maim you"
True, but they're usually saved for usage in battle suits or for elite soldiers.
...and not to give to the poor guardsman on duty in his squad
no they're not
LOL
Ion is issued to fire warriors or pathfinders
pathfinders being more absurd as they have insanely light armor
and they use a shoulder mounted varient
I swear Pathfinders are the equivalent of scions?
Pathfinders are elite
but they're scouts/infiltrators
they wear light stealth focused armor
this is a fire warrior
Look how the armor completely covers the bodyglove
Yeah I think due to them being in mostly enemy lines. They need a weapon to take out any heavily armored just in case
this is a tau pathfinder
note the lack of arm armor and leg armor
and the chestplate being lighter
Ah yes, the T'au seems to have given them a lack of pixels
they do have pistols funnily enough
Jokes aside yeah I see how the Pathfinders have lighter armor
its a back holster
the issue is they have demolition charges/rail rifles
and anti armor grenades
they can handle light armor, Ion weapons are issued for testing
to see if they can supplant the role of Rail rifles or be issued squad wise
lol
Oh nvm that's definitely just being stupid then
tbf
I guess even the T'au can't escape the rule of cool
True
That's all good to know
Also they kinda remind me of the Halo Infinite shock rifle for some reason
Design wise
it also punches a hole in shit
I can only guess Darktide's plasma rifles are greatly, greatly more durable than a realistic lore plasma
In terms of bashing people? yeah
though in terms of overheat they're arguably in line
Nah for shots fired
just without the whole, sometimes randomly explodes lol
That's surprising
also the Earth caste are batshit insane lol
Ion weapons have an issue of overloading?
strap 3 together and make a minigun out of them
Yeah I remember a situation where the overheat bar was like
Half
Cyclic ion blaster
And it immediately caused an overheat damaging
which is the infantry sized ion rifle
Based beyond belief
but with 3 times as high of a fire rate
and 3 times of high of a chance to fry the battlesuits systems lol
and the "fun" part
is if all 3 go off at once the pilot might just get electrocuted lol
"Skill issue" - T'au Earth caste
also the earth caste instead of fixing these issues
made an even more advanced and larger higher power version
the Cyclic Ion Raker
aka the marine obliterater 9000
They are from an inquisitorial armory. I would imagine they're well taken care of.
Even more firerate, even more firepower
"The Black Templar trying to stop the oncoming tide of Ion Raker plasma bolts after praying to the Emperor."
Ion bolts 🤓
I mean not even about how they're taken care of
Just how often you can shoot it
but yeah the Cyclic Ion Raker was in lore considered massive overkill
by the Earth Caste
until they ran into the death guard
And how little downside unless overloaded
and then the earth caste was like "fuck it make like more of them"
the funniest part of the Cyclic Ion Raker
Tbf
Sane reaction
Ig you need a powerful weapon for when you get spotted lol
Ah, the "if no one is alive to hear me, I am stealthy" approach
Always "field" this, "field" that with sci-fi
Most issues with the plasma weapons are the mass and power supply. You don't have that many shots.
BOOORINGG
its also uh "big"
Honestly kinda terrifying to imagine accidentally bumping into it
Turning aroujd
The effective range of lore plasma gun is only a few hundred metres.
They deactivate the field and you just see this big ass mech
tbf they can fire while in stealth mode
is why they're horrifying
the smaller stealth suits can't do that
That is terrifying
But also you could probably tell where it's coming from by the Ion bolts
Well
"You weren't supposed to see that.", says the 30-foot tall mech
After like several ppl are dead
Extremely stealthy
tbf it follows the "layers" of protection theory irl
Well, a flame can be invisible.
Gasoline flame can be invisible for example.
Tbf they're literally invisible with a stealth field
And I assume that the flamers are used when they're close
Yeah but for discerning where the bolts are coming from
geneseed stew
its full armaments are a Cyclic Ion Raker/Fusion Collider + Twin Flamers/Fusion blasters/burst cannons + an electrowarfare suite lol
the thing is stupid
its overkill
its a testbed for earth caste tech lol
they just shoved a bunch of stuff they liked into it and called it a day
Considering the weapons were made after encountering the death guard
I can imagine an Earth Caste looking at the footage with a pale blue face
Looking to his buddy
nah this was made before
"We need to make better shit NOW."
To be fair, that's how weapon platforms work.
Man that random Earth caste T'au inventor must've been stoked
"YOU CALLED IT OVERKILL"
"YOU ALL CALLED IT OVERKILL"
"We're putting a flamer on it?"
"We're only putting one??"
"WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!"
the earth caste much like the IRL military industrial complex
makes bad investments

Look at every weapon platforms we have in real life, same shit.
tbf is it really bad if it's 40k?
Yes
because the Tau pulse carbine is a failure doctrinally in universe
and doesn't fufill the role it was meant to
I wonder what this is a reference to
||actually what is it in reference to||
M14 is likely what GW had in mind
idk why
I just like this big blocky end
Gives me similar feelings to like the bolter
The current US M7 carbine is the repeat of the M14.
just the vibe of "FUCK YOU"
the issues are its just way too fucking bulky in universe
for its intended role of being a CQB weapon lol
and it gives up too much range
yeah I can tell
so it just ended up being issued to pathfinders who had a use for a "smaller" pulse rifle
LMAO
lol
and drones
in general, if i ever get into the figure collecting of 40k
definitely making a t'au army
Tau suits are more diverse than most 40K armies.
which is why it has a bunch of attachment options lol
yeah gives me the vibes of like a fucking lmg rather than a carbine
like
which 10e took away because lack of PPM and wargear costs
oh also
it was meant to be lighter then the pulse rifle
it did not solve that issue
it was the same weight lol
yeah it's a total failure on it's purpose
...
it does however look fucking cool
true
i lik the tau
very cool yes
also fire warriors can get shotguns
which makes them better then every other factions basic infantry/j
I wish the Imperium had more shotgun designs
I think there's only really two?
The combat shotgun and the Astartes assault shotgun
oh wait
the arbites have uh
lol
scoped shotgun
here
I get that shotguns are much farther than video games portray them as but also...
jesus fucking christ
yeah I'm not really sure they count
kinda more referring to standard issue
and munda shotguns are most likely just
DKOK one
"you get them from house"
It owuld be cool if Ganger gets munda shotguns
also the House weapons
are btw exported
to the guard
(mostly to the necromundan spiders)
nvm then
we technically have a lot of shotgun designs
we just... kinda don't really see em that often
I still think this is the funniest though
scoped shotgun
"They fire powerful shells that can blow craters in their targets from afar"
I guess it's slug?
old ass art I know
goes hard ngl
sadge
i do hope the ganger allows us to see necromundan designs
idk how or why just uhhh
I think orlock, escher, goliath are all on the table
Delaque(lower rank stuff)
Cawdor goes to zealot
but yeah the Necromundan guard are notable for mixed infantry primarily lol
Which house is in hive secundus?
Just had someone say to me on the topic of post apocalyptic movies that 28 days later is a “movie with zero impact that no one has heard of”
He's a moron
All of the clan houses but none now
And other noble houses
The main thing of Hive Secundus was the Chrono Guild which was an information broking member of the Merchant Guild. Anyways they're dead now lol
nowadays the noble/clan houses occasionally go in to gather stuff
Relics/archeotech/data
I think you should call him stupid
Because he is stupid

Like seriously the intro of 28 days later alone was stolen by the Walking Dead show
I just logged onto yt and some guy was saying that dropsite massacre novel was confirming the legion was loyal
just wanted to ask
there was a specific group of AL in that book who were loyalists and managed to not get purged
oh
the legion as a whole are still hard core traitors
also GW classifies them as traitors
in every system ever
and the rulebooks all have them as traitors(mostly)
Loyalist Alpha Legion are rare and far between
I think they're also usually laughed at
well
in 40k they're all extinct
lol
they joined in with loyalist legions/chapters
By other AL anyways
The moebius configuration was a specific tactic
used by loyalist alpha legion
where they'd "align" themselves with traitors
and then bleed their forces dry with false intel/bad battle plans and then on the day of the battle sacrifice them as cannon fodder
lol
pretty fun lore bit imo
This is done while pitting them against another traitor force
and claiming they're "filthy loyalist scum"
You mean similarly to the cutscenes where the story showed somebody grabbing intel
Also damn that is a mind fuck

I made a admech class personality concept post that could work within the lore https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1p3lh5v/what_would_be_your_ideas_for_potential/
I hope you chaps like it
hmm so the hive scum arent just gangers but cartel enforcers
why'd you get thumbed down lol
I have no bloody idea lmao
I think Pathos would be more akin to pitying them
"Oh these organics simply don't understand the strength and certainty of steel"
Instead of being bitter, they decide to teach them.
oh that would be bonkers
Basically an evangelical but for the mechanicus.
being hadron like sibling who's chill than telling you to unfunction yourself lmao
or like the savant psyker but more mechanical like
Although I can imagine they would be awkward towards the Ogryn because...
like
The Ogryn wouldn't understand shit.
basically yeah
Or wouldn't care.
also true
So they're just constantly confused on how to even appeal to them.
or trying to fix one of the ogryn's bonehead implants
Because it was from Jay and he's a hater
"Have you ever thought of adding new arms?"
"Nah, two armz are enough to crush 'eretics."
"What about fixing you bonehead implant."
"Nah beeping too weird."
"...how about becoming stronger?"
"Ay, I could accept that."
"THAT WORKS??"
oh sounds pretty good
You could also add some flaws.
Y'know how some fuck ass christians who are like
"I simply don't agree with you being gay, but love the sinner not the sin!"
I can definitely imagine Pathos being like that

perhaps, kinda like the judge zealot
yeah that's what i'm imagining
yeap
need a bigger anvil
wtf
Awful 💀
❌ Olanzapine is NOT a sedative
It’s a antipsychotic
That can have a drowsy effect
Holy fuck 90mg, bro is going to get EPS
For reference, at my work, I usually give around 5-10 mg
No wonder it’s gonna cause you to lose consciousness
its a horse that got turned into an anime girl, medical knowledge is the last thing you can expect from her
I wish I could get with a girl like this
Funny enough this is the one character from that anime with actual medical knowledge lmao
She's a mad scientist who likes to experiment on people by putting serums in their drinks
so a hack and a quack as well as a horse
devious
I really hope they do this personality justice. This has the potential to be exactly what i had in my head when i thought of ganger.
Also, are the arbites gonna be the the hivers "handlers"? If so, thats going to be cool.
Its Zola as their handler.
I mean she has been on their place before
Out of everyone in the ship she's the one who's most knowledgeable on how these types of people work
Yes.
why not morrow
"chaos incarnate"
I really hope that the arbites have some harsh words to exchange with the anarchists in their dialogue lol.
Zola seems like a bit of a strange choice to me. hasnt she sort of gone off the rails with that whole wolfer thing? Feels like putting a band of criminals under her isnt the smartest move.
True but she does have a lot of experience with the cartels in tertium
She would know how to utilize them best
arent all of the rejects "criminals"
Yeah. But you have criminals, and then you have Criminals
Do we know how long zola has been under the inquisition? I thought shes one of the newcomers to the band.
Not sure actually
I thought she was the newest member of the main gang. Besides the commissar. Or was morrow the newest addition. idk myself lol.
Also, here it does say "handlers", plural. So is that just a typo or is it just a generalisation for the inquisition crew?
We know not long, she got promoted really fast
Yeah, thats what i thought. Idk, maybe it will make more sense to me when we actually see the implementation of the gangers.
Also i cant imagine that the shipmistress will be too happy about having her ship further infested with lowlifes lol
Who is this guy? Is he the guy with the blue glowing eye on his portrait?
nah that is a different fellow
the one you're talking about is kayex
Oh, thats kayexes portrait? I thought that we had a 3rd admech guy but i think i just made it up. (I didnt make it up, i was thinking of a guy from rogue trader)
Enginseer Kayex-8 yep
RT's highest ranked admech representive, much older than our admech
Kayex is youngest and lowest-ranked I assume
He is an enginseer after all
former ufc lightweight champion
I thought Hadron was the youngest. She is by far the most human and emotional. I assume admech tend to grow less human with age and modifications. Idk about her rank though. Shes just in charge of the armoury i presume. Kayex also has lines talking about his old age.
But then again. I guess age can have symptoms that manifest in many different ways when we are talking about people that live for hundreds of years.
They're not very different in the ranking of things
Admech are wildly varied, some keep their emotional bits even at much higher ranks
although i believe artisan class is above enginseer still and that image is just from a fanmade thing
As far as i know as a Admech player, Technoarcheologists are Generally considered to be higher ranking than most Enginseers, as Enginseers are perceived with a little bit of derision due to being "just" maintainers and fixers rather than inventors or discoverers as the Technoarcheologists are. To be trusted with the role of Technoarcheologist is a big honorable thing, although it is also usually given to tech priests who are more on the socially difficult side to get them away from the forgeworld.
So it creates a really interesting dynamic between Hadron and Kayex. Hadron technically outranks Kayex, however she is working to fix and maintain which is a Enginseers speciality, not a Technoarcheologists, and is forced to rely on Kayex's expertise. It also doesnt help that Kayek is older and could have easily been higher ranking than her, but due to his work for a rogue trader, i suspect his rank climb in Admech has been put on hold, adding more disbalance to the dynamic.
yea you're rite it would seem
This is from the 7th ed codex, artisans are a bit above enginseers
Couldn't for the life of me find it but surprise surprise, it was on the lexicanum. Whoever edits that place should be shot or something
pray to the datagheists more for assistance
Reminder that this hierarchy is incredibly loose and even that is suppose to be a rough approximation
theres no "higher rank" other than Magii/Magoses, all techpriests can just outrank each other depending on experience, knowledge, etc
is youse sayin' i'm a liar?
Some positions hold more knowledge than others, and Technoarcheologists often tend to hold much more knowledge of STCs, and other tech secrets that the Admech values versus Enginseers who specialize in repair and maintaining of pretty commonplace if vital tech. That is primarily why Enginseers are seen to be on the lower end of the tech priests ranks.
I mean kinda but not really, as ever "it depends". Theres no solid foundation to these things as other sources also showcase the opposite being as true where techarcheologists get dumbfounded or bonked by an information they dont know by another techpriest.
Admech hierarchy has always been extremely loose.
Unless you're a Magos of something honestly yeah lol

