#40k-lore-chat

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near wasp
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I mean this are progressively getting worse in the hive

languid meadow
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hopefully we get some gear related to them

near wasp
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Like having civilian conspricts isn't far behind either

young pecan
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Our standards are getting low enough to recruit gangers, even with Arbitrator presence
Still can only afford 4 people per high-value mission

crystal forum
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please dont call them arbitrators it hurts my eyes

young pecan
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Arbytraties

crystal forum
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i hate you

winged jacinth
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"Times are desperate we need to pull some goons off the street" is how we got the original rejects except they were already in jail

wet sandal
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arbitees nuts

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Gottem

crystal forum
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acquire more goons

winged jacinth
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A goon squad if you will

crystal forum
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no i did not say gooners

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we have enough in the 40k community

winged jacinth
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I didn't suggest we keep them in a cave

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(Zola writing the idea down)

vagrant fox
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another prison barge for the meatgrinder

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the Imperium is so cool

wet sandal
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Send in the 24th wave

winged jacinth
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An arbitrator does arbitration which the arbites do not do

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Unless you count shooting people as resolving disputes

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For reasons unrelated to the dispute

crystal forum
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i never even thought of them as arbitrators

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just arbites

winged jacinth
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If you've got a dispute you can count on an arbites to arbitrate it by randomly shooting one party and the other party wins

crystal forum
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see that's how arbites should be

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space cops who hate lawbreakers

winged jacinth
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Arbitrator is a real life job title unrelated to what the arbites do

wet sandal
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Just shoot them both

crystal forum
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not some fucking tax collector

wet sandal
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Dispute arbitrated

winged jacinth
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Its also a space ship in star wars i think

winged jacinth
wet sandal
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Arbites do have an ATF vibe

winged jacinth
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An arbitrator would work in the administratum

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Or be in a galaxy far far away apparently

crystal forum
winged jacinth
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Naming a super star destroyer arbitrator is pretty funny i think

crystal forum
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i dont think of anything cool when i think of taxes

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is there a single human that does

winged jacinth
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No but its funny to kill people over them

winged jacinth
nocturne crest
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Well, the arbites had a marshall to lead them into combat into Darktide, so maybe another inquistor turns up and starts recruiting hive scum, which Rannick and his boss follow with.

winged jacinth
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You never know

crystal forum
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what's a CPA

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are those fighting words

winged jacinth
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Certified public accountant

crystal forum
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put up your mitts we're fighting now

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i know chemists are famously weak in upper body strength

winged jacinth
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I take the chemicals and they made me a strong mutant actually

crystal forum
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shit

winged jacinth
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I do have to fight batman every few weeks

crystal forum
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why is your pfp yer baby

winged jacinth
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Why are you asking that knowing what it is

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I love explaining my shit pfp was drawn by ringo starr and that he sells prints for like $5k

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He drew it in fucking kidpix

wet sandal
nocturne crest
wet sandal
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What's with you and gangers having some inexplicable connection to the inquisition

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Zola went to the water cartel, that's all we really know

winged jacinth
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Another inquisitor would probably not be welcomed by grendyl from what we speculate lol

dire loom
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Inquisitor said I can

winged jacinth
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Though maybe former interrogators of grendyl?
Our boss seems pretty radical and also might mysteriously entombed in the mourningstar i doubt he likes puritans sniffing about

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Hell "bring the grimoires back" would start a gunfight at a conclave

arctic talon
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He is def radical

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Not super radical

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But he’s up to some shit

near wasp
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Capturing grimores is pretty normal tbh

winged jacinth
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For radicals, sure

near wasp
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Doesn't take a radical to decide that something should be preserved to fight the fight

young pecan
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Rannick is only an interrogator, right?

near wasp
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Yeah for now

young pecan
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Serving under Grendyl?

winged jacinth
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Unless its the type thats hard to destroy and these ones seem prone to catching fire

winged jacinth
arctic talon
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Yeah that’s radical activity

winged jacinth
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Using chaos against itself

arctic talon
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Even if someone is “neutral”

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And they engage in that

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It’s radical activity

winged jacinth
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Learning its ways

arctic talon
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A puritan would have it burned

near wasp
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Learning isn't the same as using

winged jacinth
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Also puritans consider any radical behavior very radical

young pecan
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Eisenhorn ||is probably one of the most moral radicals, usually* using it in the best way possible, and is still for sure absolutely a crazy radical||

near wasp
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Even puritans have to study there enemy at some point

winged jacinth
arctic talon
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I mean the retrieval of a heretical object is considered a radical action

dire loom
young pecan
arctic talon
surreal nest
arctic talon
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Not the enemy itself

dire loom
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I think around 60% of community saved rations too

surreal nest
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arbites just run a protection racket really

dire loom
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Or was it 51%?

rustic patrol
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the entire Imperium is a protection racket

arctic talon
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A puritan wouldn’t retrieve heretical objects to “learn” from them

winged jacinth
dire loom
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Seemed close, but I'm glad we won.

rustic patrol
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pay tithes, and maybe we send the IG to help you when you get invaded (or have a classist uprising)

young pecan
winged jacinth
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The grims are nasty artifacts based on how much influence they have even closed

young pecan
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Sorry

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I should explode you

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Sorry

surreal nest
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I just love that Arbites showed up annoyed that the planet is being fucked enough to where they aren't getting their money

young pecan
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Enjoy faeces-covered food

dire loom
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🗣️ Inquisitor Martyr radical renegade Inquisitor and Rogue Trader heretical with some iconoclast.

winged jacinth
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You can hear the fucking things whispering from 30 feet

dire loom
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Dark Heresy I'm doing heretical. Chaos sleeper agent but not get shot by Rannick.

arctic talon
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Dark heresy if you go heretical

surreal nest
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do we have any lore excerpts of arbites fighting xenos

winged jacinth
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Like i said, gunfight at the conclave type shit

arctic talon
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You’re going balls to the walls

arctic talon
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lol

arctic talon
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lol

young pecan
rose thorn
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i am the eisenhorn hater

surreal nest
near wasp
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Tithes

winged jacinth
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I imagine arbites mostly encounter genestealers and dark eldar

rose thorn
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and chaos cults

dire loom
rose thorn
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yuo mean outisde of general crimincal behavior?

winged jacinth
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Those arent xenos

rose thorn
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OH

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XENOS

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sory i came in half wayu

surreal nest
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im curious as to how effective arbites actually are

rose thorn
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enslavers ahve been making the routes

surreal nest
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how rigorous is their training

young pecan
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""Alpha"" psyker
Still needs to use a secondary magic system revolving around funny words to do anything impactful

arctic talon
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It’s from tithes

young pecan
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Okay Eisenhorn

arctic talon
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Very

storm jungle
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literal darktide tier shit

winged jacinth
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Genestealers for obvious reasons and then dark eldar love raiding which is bad for productive capacity

surreal nest
arctic talon
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they go through the same sort of hellish obstacle course as all the other militant minded people in the schola progenium

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Which means. They get

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THE WALL

rose thorn
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ddint arbities use to have water tanks

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adn then replaced the water with guns

storm jungle
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they still do

arctic talon
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But yeah

surreal nest
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arbites r firefighters

arctic talon
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The sisters of battle got the version with a flamethrower

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Instead of a water cannon

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And that was the lore on it

rose thorn
arctic talon
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But yeah the wall is probably an indication of like

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The arbites going through a great level of rigor

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Likely less then the Scions and Sororitas overall

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But they still have to do a lot of the live fire shit

winged jacinth
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Im very curious why they'd be fighting gaunts

arctic talon
vital ginkgo
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If the imperium were to fall what would be the most likely successor society for humans?

rustic patrol
arctic talon
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So they got the unfortunate end result

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of running into nids

winged jacinth
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Oh lol yeah they'd do that

arctic talon
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and also yeah Lictors as well

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Lictors fucking eat like

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5 arbites

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in that episode of the tithes

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and a few of the arbites die to gaunts/von ryans when they get overrun

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lol

arctic talon
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but they do a good job

winged jacinth
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Lore lictors are horrifying lol

arctic talon
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considering they're out numbered and in the open lol

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But yeah climbing a wall in full armor, while wearing a full backpack of shit + a loaded gun + being shot at

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is a pretty good indication the arbites are pretty physically fit

storm jungle
young pecan
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Funniest Arbites representation we have is tied between that one Rogue Trader article, and that one conversation between Maul and Seer

arctic talon
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Anyways the Schola Progenium funny wall is like

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the hell test

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rock climbing is already hard enough

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now do it while being shot at with live rounds and wearing armor + wearing a full backpack of shit lol

rustic patrol
winged jacinth
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My ass scheduling my wall on a low g planet

arctic talon
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smh

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you think they don't standardize the gravity

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everyone gets good ol terran gravity

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anyone whos too slow up the wall gets shot as well lmao

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so sometimes schola students throw themselves off the wall instead

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which gets them a beating instead of getting shot(if they survive the fall)

young pecan
arctic talon
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tbf

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its similar to irl military training

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just without getting shot at

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lol

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and its for kids

surreal nest
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jarhead moment

winged jacinth
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I think i'd spend a lot of time on rock climing practice

young pecan
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The getting shot at part is the MOST important part kek

arctic talon
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Look

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its not like thats the first time they gotta climb a wall

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anyways arbites are more elite then guardsmen in terms of raw training but they're trained for different stuff

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if that makes sense

surreal nest
young pecan
winged jacinth
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They should bring up schola graduates climbing proficiency more in lore

arctic talon
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also arbites need to do a bunch of nerdy data stuff as well

arctic talon
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they do need to climb back down without getting shot at though

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lol

surreal nest
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Now check this out as I ruin this whole discussion with our favorite power scaling stupid question

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how many arbites to a space marine

arctic talon
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bad

arctic talon
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next question

young pecan
winged jacinth
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A bunch of scions effortlessly ascending a mountain "just like my school days"

arctic talon
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LOL

young pecan
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Next question

arctic talon
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but yeah the Schola Progenium is god awful

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and its comically evil

young pecan
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Who let the people who hate birth rates control the Schola

storm jungle
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  • Keep or attempt to keep the idea of the Imperium alive
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  • Seperate and break into warlord factions
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no in-between really

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its just an Age of Strife but everyone has all the toys

young pecan
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when faced with the worst possible reality that they've already been living in for hundreds of years, given the chance to reforge themselves in an age of strife, humankind chooses to keep the baby grinder factories

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I think that's accurate

storm jungle
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I mean

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its how we work IRL

young pecan
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Exactly

storm jungle
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We could literally fix all the worlds problems but we simply dont

winged jacinth
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Honestly if the imperium broke up i could see mars taking over

storm jungle
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because money, power, positions above others etc

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its cynical but it is what it is

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we still make do with what we got

surreal nest
winged jacinth
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They've got a largely independent galaxywide network

storm jungle
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also you forget

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all forgeworlds got their own loyalties

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some dont even like Mars

winged jacinth
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Oh wait astronomican

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No one

storm jungle
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They'd find some replacement tech

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because we need tabletop armies to fight each other lol

winged jacinth
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Humans need to invent a new warp travel tech yeah lol

arctic talon
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the Forgeworlds are way too full of hatred towards each other

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lol

surreal nest
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I lost all of my love for admech after how the darktide community reacted to hive scum

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they should EXPLODE

arctic talon
arctic talon
winged jacinth
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You can do it but it'd probably take forever

arctic talon
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I never should have given you that gif LOL

young pecan
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Ganger sounds really fun and everyone else should kick rocks

arctic talon
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lmao

surreal nest
young pecan
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I guess so

arctic talon
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ITS REALLY GOOD

storm jungle
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the gigabrain admech fans know now the next class reveal is 100% a techpriest lol

arctic talon
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yeah

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Theres like

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not much left, unless they do some REALLY weird shit

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lol

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or they do something unique

young pecan
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Our day will come 😈

surreal nest
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I totally get disappointment but I've genuinely never seen a community that angry over nothing before

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like actual seething rage

arctic talon
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people are literally shadowboxing

surreal nest
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me collecting all the odogaron gifs

storm jungle
surreal nest
arctic talon
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Odogaron is such a cool monster lol

surreal nest
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Odogaron is my number 2 monster, first always goes to nergigante

noble seal
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I too, wished for admech, but after seeing the ganger, I still feel very excited for it. I am debating whether or not I should make art of it. No, I will. In due time.

arctic talon
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Nergi is cool

storm jungle
noble seal
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I learned that it is better to be happy for the success of others, rather than being upset for oneself.

rustic patrol
vagrant fox
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I feel like Roy Batty about it all
I've seen things you wouldn't believe, seen crying manchildren get banned en masse

surreal nest
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I wish I had the energy to be upset over a video game not adding exactly what I dreamed of

storm jungle
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i legit got no idea why anyone would use either of those lol

surreal nest
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ngl fatshark forums gives me heavy 4chan vibes at time

rustic patrol
storm jungle
surreal nest
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i actually cant bring myself anywhere near there

rustic patrol
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at least for now

vagrant fox
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I saw one guy whine about the class and when I checked the chat again after 8 hours of sleeping he was still there saying the same things on a loop

rustic patrol
sacred ginkgo
surreal nest
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Prototype is on sale nobody panic

young pecan
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I just think the self rope jokes are funny

vagrant fox
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Vermintide 2 is free

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Dw

surreal nest
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i really need to play the new vt2 maps, Im so not caught up

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I think I finished the dwarf one and thats it

rustic patrol
arctic talon
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Not really

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but if you want more stuff to play

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its worth it

vagrant fox
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I don't play that fantasy trash the characters have no depth besides being assholes 💯 💯

arctic talon
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winds of magic comes with some really strong weapons lol

surreal nest
arctic talon
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Elven Spear and Shield

surreal nest
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super super fun

arctic talon
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is fucking INSANE

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lol

surreal nest
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which DLC is axe and falchion?

arctic talon
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same with the flachion + axe

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Back to Ubersreik

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is axe and flachion

rustic patrol
arctic talon
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but yeah spear and shield is kind of stupidly strong on Kerellian

vagrant fox
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I liked the dlcs but I never got winds

surreal nest
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Personally im a huge fan of RV throwing axe build

arctic talon
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Handmaiden Kerellian literally cannot die with it if you play it right

surreal nest
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Its actually really fun

arctic talon
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lol

rustic patrol
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and allow me to murder hobo my way through Nevada/California/Washington etc in Fallout

surreal nest
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generate unlimited ammo have perma attack speed uptime and you can cleave hordes

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also each axe does like 40 damage to teammates

arctic talon
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the spear and shield does have 1 tiny issue

rustic patrol
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kay, guess the resounding consensus is that I should throw money at fatshark

arctic talon
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it has dogshit damage

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lol

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but hey

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you will literally die after an ironbreaker baradin

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so does it really matter?

vagrant fox
rustic patrol
vagrant fox
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What are they gonna do? Fire me?

rustic patrol
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They 'fired' Saren, so yeah. It's a possibility.

Granted, you'd have to do something like working with AI, or a terrorist groups, or cause an interspacial incident...

vagrant fox
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I just had the same mindset I had when playing q Rogue Trader TTRPG game
I can do what I want and I'll prove it by bombarding whatever fool is annoying from orbit
It works tell you hwat

rustic patrol
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yeah, it works in the game, but as a 'role play' it felt sort of off to me.

and I'd rather keep my Shep's face clean and unscarred, and not looking like the T-101 after a fire bath.

jade holly
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I forget, is Papa Nurgle somewhat based in actual lore or is Nurgle more of a toxic positivity manipulator to his followers?

rustic patrol
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I mean... he loves you?

I guess?

Is love based or cringe now a days?

jade holly
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I get that part, but is it truly love or is he putting a form of facade on

rustic patrol
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It's creepy uncle sort of love.

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like, I don't care what you feel about me, I'm going to force my love onto you sort of vibe

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and all the sickness and suffering is basically Nurgle going, "Why don't you love me? If you did, all this pain could go away."

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so seriously abusive relations tier love

vagrant fox
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Actual love isn't in the portfolio of the god of despair, decay, and disease

rustic patrol
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love is magical, and magic is heresy

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so no place for love in 40k period

vagrant fox
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I joke about nurgle gaslighting and abusing but imho it's not far from what happens

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I hate phone keyboards so much

storm jungle
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its the sense that the easiest thing is to give up and give into the despair that rots and destroys everything before renewing it with new disgusting pestilent life

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Loner Psyker has a great line about it

lament shoal
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Oh wait nvm I misread that

arctic talon
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wdym?

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She does have a shield

lament shoal
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Thought you said Kibellah 💀

arctic talon
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oh

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lmao

vagrant fox
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There should be a high elf in vermintide 3 so I can larp as a white lion and be virulently racist

nocturne crest
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So odd question, but is there a limit on how many classes they can have in Darktide?

vagrant fox
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I wouldn't touch a wood elf even if I had to do it to survive

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i forgor

rustic patrol
nocturne crest
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I feel like they should do eight classes in total.

rocky gale
vagrant fox
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As long as they don't run out of vas they can do a lot

nocturne crest
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7 OR 8.

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Number of Nurgle or 8 points of the chaos star.

daring creek
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7 8

vagrant fox
nocturne crest
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Does the imperium have a holy number?

daring creek
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Thinking about how M Judge has a collection of left feet the arbitrators dog brought him

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Saying it was a "test"

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I think that dogs just particularly weird

vagrant fox
tough haven
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Just finished the new naked gun, it’s rather funny

tough haven
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Two chaos gods gain strength every time a gen z says “six seven”

daring creek
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USER SERVITIZED FOR THIS POST^

tough haven
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Khorne and nurgle right?

daring creek
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Khornes number is 8 to my knowledge

tough haven
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I thought it was 6

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Oh wait

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No it is 8

daring creek
tough haven
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So who would have 6 and seven?

young pecan
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Since we're talking about numbers, why does Loner psyker say "by the five rusting spires"

young pecan
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I assumed that meant the five major chaos entities

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If we assume whats his face is major

nocturne crest
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9 is Tzeentch

tough haven
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Nice

nocturne crest
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13 I'd the ghr

tough haven
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7 would be nurgle right?

vagrant fox
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3 and 7 I believe

rustic patrol
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he gets two numbers because he's a boomer

lofty mason
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I wonder has an IoM administrator indirectly caused mass starvation just by simply mis-inputting some wrong data in the spreadsheet?

young pecan
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Maybe the five rusting spires thing means the major civilizations that have either fallen from grace or are stagnant?

young pecan
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Imperium, Eldar, Tau, Orks, Necrons?

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That's a random bullshit guess though

arctic talon
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Tau aren’t stagnant(yet)

lofty mason
# arctic talon Yes

Class Name: Administrator.
Class Ability: Misinput.
Kills 1 to 1,000,000 civilians on a random imperial world via starvation.

vagrant fox
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It's not an unusual thing to happen, the story Watcher in The Rain deals with that administration thing

young pecan
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Is there another major race that could stand in for them

arctic talon
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Ehhhh

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Leagues of votaan I guess?

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They’re pretty stagnant

young pecan
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I thought they were prosperous and inventive

arctic talon
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They do invent

young pecan
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I know they sometimes have to trade with Imperium but that they are otherwise decently well off

arctic talon
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But they’re stagnant culturally

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Their culture is iron clad

young pecan
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Ahhh

arctic talon
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It’s also their greatest issue

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They’re stagnant now due to their culture being so stiff

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And unwilling to change

young pecan
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Inventive but refuses change

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🙂

vagrant fox
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Elite which planet was lost due to a clerical error and an invasion was sent to invade in order to make up for a few many thousands of years of tithe debt

arctic talon
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I know of one

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But I forgot the name

vagrant fox
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Smh you're supposed to know

arctic talon
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I don’t know all this shit by heart

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Smh

vagrant fox
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It was Grissen

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Due to a clerical error in the Imperium's labyrinthine bureaucracy, the once-prosperous world of Grissen had gone unnoticed until a mid-level functionary discovered that the planetary tithes were now some eight thousand years overdue.

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Very sensible

arctic talon
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Peak

opaque coyote
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So

Tzeentch's primary color is blue.

Ironically, it's often a color associated with trust and loyalty. Along with stability and intelligence as well.

Slaanesh's is purple, commonly associated with royalty, spirituality, and imagination. This is also shown with how they're called Prince/Princess and the constant art themes.

Green is a color of nature, harmony, and health. It's why most healing stuff in games are either red or green.

Red is a color of energy, passion and intimacy. It is biologically, the first color we notice, because of the color of blood. This is also why it represents danger.

And finally Gold, the color of wealth and success. Commonly associated with prestige, influence, and prosperity.

opaque coyote
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Including Gold.

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I wouldn't exactly call the Imperium successful or wealthy

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It is the opposite of prosperity

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A dying empire scratching at anything that dares comes close

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Hurting itself in a vain attempt to just stay alive as an entity just a little bit longer

fervent gull
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is alpha legion confirmed loyal now?

opaque coyote
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No

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Most of em are opposite

fervent gull
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uh

opaque coyote
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They're renegade at best

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Traitors most often and often likely

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Most of them are in it for themselves now

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There is a chance that Omegon is currently influencing and coordinating things behind the scenes, but it's not like they know that

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But by the majority of the allegiance of the operators currently active

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Traitors

opaque coyote
young pecan
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I think it's because Prince/Princess is an endearing term, naturally

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And because they're all brothers, being "king" implies that you are above them

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That's just my take though

celest cedar
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anyone know what particular voicework the new hive scum personalities have done before

young pecan
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Their names are all dropped so you could probably look it up

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I'm curious too but I'm too lazy

rustic patrol
rustic patrol
arctic talon
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Where did you get that from

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Genuine question

arctic talon
vital ginkgo
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Since force and power weapons are pretty rare and expensive even for space marine chapters, are librarians ever equipped with chain weapons or do the chapters make sure they get the best stuff?

crystal forum
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power weapons aren't very rare by space marine standards

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chainswords just have different uses

lament shoal
opaque coyote
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But that aside, I think it's to allude to how the Dark King is seemingly the penultimate chaos god

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So much so that he is called a King

vital ginkgo
opaque coyote
#

And th titles for anything else are missing

opaque coyote
#

Force weapons usually are specially made to be able to channel Psyker energy through it better

lament shoal
#

The psyker uses the psy reactive materials the weapon is made with to channel their power through it

opaque coyote
#

Although for Aeldari like

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...

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Technically most of their weapons are force weapons

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You need Psyker powers to be able to even use them

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They literally have no trigger for the guns because of that

vital ginkgo
#

Hm

dapper gyro
#

Force weapons don't have trigger.

opaque coyote
#

Of course Deldar lost their Psyker powers so their guns have triggers and shit.

dapper gyro
#

It is the psyker channeling the power at their will.

opaque coyote
#

Although there are definitely some made in the Imperium

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(doy)

dapper gyro
#

Eldar has peak force weapons, necrons have peak power weapons.

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The other factions are in between.

rustic patrol
lament shoal
#

Meanwhile my homebrew chapter master turning a xenophase blade into a force sword lmao

rustic patrol
lament shoal
#

I don't think so

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

where's votaan

opaque coyote
#

Oh shit yeah

crystal forum
#

i'd say tau have better tech than imperium just because on average they field way better shit than what most of the imperium has access to

dapper gyro
#

They use different techs. The necron and eldar/deldar tech are as good.

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

without archeotech macguffins then imperium has shit tech

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hard to quantify

opaque coyote
#

And also biological enhancement

dapper gyro
#

Pre imperium humans are pretty up there.

opaque coyote
#

Also let's be fair here

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The Mechanicus has most of the good shit

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The Imperium gets the scraps

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Not even including archaeotech, the Mechanicus just hordes the higher quality stuff in general

dapper gyro
#

Though, at their peak, Necron = Eldar for power vs psychic, then human (pre imperium+ Votann), then others.

opaque coyote
#

Their average soldiers get fancy guns with electrified servitor bullets.

The average Imperial Guard gets the fucking flashlight

crystal forum
#

also the tau civilians get decent conditions

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they arent starving 24/7

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

that's mostly because the imperium is so comedically evil by comparison

opaque coyote
#

Which I think it's hard to say they're more advanced.

Because how much of it is the Imperium just not caring to make it more safe.

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Like the Pulse vs Plasma gun

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I think the Imperium Plasma Gun is more damaging (do not quote me on this).

It's just that it also has a higher rate of malfunction

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...

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And usually that malfunction causes the user to melt

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Meanwhile the Pulse rifles are less damaging, but still extremely deadly.

And more importantly, have much less of a chance to explode in your face

lament shoal
#

If your plasma weapon explodes in your face, skill issue

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Recite the correct prayers to its machine spirit next time

young pecan
#

Aren't plasma guns perfectly reliable if you don't overuse them and if they're in good condition?

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Or is there always chance of exploding

crystal forum
#

modern plasma is actually more stable than older

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but it comes at less power

arctic talon
#

But lore wise sometimes they cock up and do the heat dump early

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Also common misconception plasma guns don’t explode when they overheat

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They just vent hot gas all over you as a safety measure to prevent the plasma gun from exploding

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A plasma gun exploding is a containment failure

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Usually a plasma gun doesn’t kill you when it overheats

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It just maims you

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Or cripples you for life if you’re weak

lament shoal
#

I remember in one of the dark angels books a marine has his plasma gun sabotaged by some fellow dark angels because he found out too much about something. He survives but pretty much immediately figures out it was an assassination attempt because he takes good care of his gun and such an incident had never happened before

arctic talon
#

Yeah plasma guns don’t explode randomly

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You don’t have a chance to get horrific 3rd degree burns everytime you shoot it

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You only have a chance to get horrific 3rd degree burns with sustained use and not allowing it to properly cool off between shots

crystal forum
#

if you hit somebody with it

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it might explode

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is all i know

arctic talon
#

Also yeah bashing someone with it is a bad idea

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lol

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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which is why ogryns cant use any

arctic talon
#

Pulse rifles are similar to plasma weapons yeah

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But tau plasma is “colder”

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Aside from larger forms of it

opaque coyote
#

They're less powerful than the Imperium Plasmas.

But in exchange, they don't vent heat into your face

arctic talon
#

Yeah well that’s why they don’t melt a big hole in a marine

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Smh

opaque coyote
#

Because they actually care about wanting their soldiers back

arctic talon
#

Well

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the Tau have their own

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horrifically backfiring weapons

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lol

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Ion weapons

opaque coyote
#

Or well surviving more than one battle

arctic talon
#

Well again

#

Ion weapons much like plasma

lament shoal
#

I love plasma pistols man, they're so cool

arctic talon
#

cause horrific burns and electrical scars to the Tau using them

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when they overload lol

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Ion is arguably the Tau's analogue to plasma

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the Tau care about their soldiers marginally more but its not like they don't hand someone "gun that can overload horrifically and maim you"

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

no they're not

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LOL

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Ion is issued to fire warriors or pathfinders

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pathfinders being more absurd as they have insanely light armor

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and they use a shoulder mounted varient

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Pathfinders are elite

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but they're scouts/infiltrators

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they wear light stealth focused armor

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this is a fire warrior

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Look how the armor completely covers the bodyglove

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

this is a tau pathfinder

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note the lack of arm armor and leg armor

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and the chestplate being lighter

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

they do have pistols funnily enough

opaque coyote
#

Jokes aside yeah I see how the Pathfinders have lighter armor

arctic talon
#

its a back holster

arctic talon
#

and anti armor grenades

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they can handle light armor, Ion weapons are issued for testing

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to see if they can supplant the role of Rail rifles or be issued squad wise

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lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

tbf

opaque coyote
#

I guess even the T'au can't escape the rule of cool

arctic talon
#

an Ion rifle is a lot easier to use for anti armor roles

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lol

arctic talon
#

but yeah if the power cell overloads

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not good lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

tbh it does shoot out a giant bolt of energy that turns off vehicles

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lol

opaque coyote
#

Design wise

arctic talon
#

it also punches a hole in shit

young pecan
#

I can only guess Darktide's plasma rifles are greatly, greatly more durable than a realistic lore plasma

arctic talon
#

In terms of bashing people? yeah

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though in terms of overheat they're arguably in line

young pecan
#

Nah for shots fired

arctic talon
#

just without the whole, sometimes randomly explodes lol

young pecan
#

That's surprising

arctic talon
#

also the Earth caste are batshit insane lol

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Ion weapons have an issue of overloading?

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strap 3 together and make a minigun out of them

opaque coyote
#

Half

arctic talon
#

Cyclic ion blaster

opaque coyote
#

And it immediately caused an overheat damaging

arctic talon
#

which is the infantry sized ion rifle

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

but with 3 times as high of a fire rate

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and 3 times of high of a chance to fry the battlesuits systems lol

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and the "fun" part

#

is if all 3 go off at once the pilot might just get electrocuted lol

opaque coyote
#

"Skill issue" - T'au Earth caste

arctic talon
#

also the earth caste instead of fixing these issues

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made an even more advanced and larger higher power version

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the Cyclic Ion Raker

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aka the marine obliterater 9000

lament shoal
arctic talon
#

Even more firerate, even more firepower

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Ion bolts 🤓

young pecan
#

Just how often you can shoot it

arctic talon
#

but yeah the Cyclic Ion Raker was in lore considered massive overkill

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by the Earth Caste

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until they ran into the death guard

young pecan
#

And how little downside unless overloaded

arctic talon
#

and then the earth caste was like "fuck it make like more of them"

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the funniest part of the Cyclic Ion Raker

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

is its mounted on a "stealth" battlesuit

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the ghostkeel battlesuit

lament shoal
#

Ig you need a powerful weapon for when you get spotted lol

young pecan
arctic talon
#

the worst part is it is actually stealthy

#

because it cheats uses a stealth field

young pecan
#

Always "field" this, "field" that with sci-fi

dapper gyro
#

Most issues with the plasma weapons are the mass and power supply. You don't have that many shots.

young pecan
#

BOOORINGG

arctic talon
#

its also uh "big"

opaque coyote
#

Turning aroujd

dapper gyro
#

The effective range of lore plasma gun is only a few hundred metres.

opaque coyote
#

They deactivate the field and you just see this big ass mech

arctic talon
#

tbf they can fire while in stealth mode

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is why they're horrifying

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the smaller stealth suits can't do that

opaque coyote
#

But also you could probably tell where it's coming from by the Ion bolts

#

Well

young pecan
opaque coyote
#

After like several ppl are dead

arctic talon
#

it has flamers btw

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lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

tbf it follows the "layers" of protection theory irl

dapper gyro
#

Well, a flame can be invisible.

arctic talon
#

where the best way of not dying is to not get hit

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lol

young pecan
#

I mean, smoke and fire are okayish visual blockers

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So like

#

?

dapper gyro
#

Gasoline flame can be invisible for example.

opaque coyote
#

And I assume that the flamers are used when they're close

young pecan
#

Yeah but for discerning where the bolts are coming from

opaque coyote
#

Like an SM is about to shout out your location?

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flamer

young pecan
#

geneseed stew

arctic talon
#

its full armaments are a Cyclic Ion Raker/Fusion Collider + Twin Flamers/Fusion blasters/burst cannons + an electrowarfare suite lol

#

the thing is stupid

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its overkill

#

its a testbed for earth caste tech lol

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they just shoved a bunch of stuff they liked into it and called it a day

opaque coyote
#

I can imagine an Earth Caste looking at the footage with a pale blue face

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Looking to his buddy

arctic talon
#

nah this was made before

opaque coyote
#

"We need to make better shit NOW."

arctic talon
#

it got approved for mass production after meeting the death guard

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LOL

dapper gyro
arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

thats true lol

opaque coyote
#

"YOU CALLED IT OVERKILL"

#

"YOU ALL CALLED IT OVERKILL"

young pecan
opaque coyote
#

"WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!"

arctic talon
#

the earth caste much like the IRL military industrial complex

#

makes bad investments

dapper gyro
#

Look at every weapon platforms we have in real life, same shit.

arctic talon
#

like the Tau Pulse Carbine

#

which is in universe considered a total failure

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Yes

#

because the Tau pulse carbine is a failure doctrinally in universe

#

and doesn't fufill the role it was meant to

#

I wonder what this is a reference to

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
#

A lot of stuff...

#

M14 is a big example...

opaque coyote
#

also is it weird that I like the look of it

arctic talon
#

M14 is likely what GW had in mind

opaque coyote
#

idk why

#

I just like this big blocky end

#

Gives me similar feelings to like the bolter

dapper gyro
#

The current US M7 carbine is the repeat of the M14.

opaque coyote
#

just the vibe of "FUCK YOU"

arctic talon
#

the issues are its just way too fucking bulky in universe

#

for its intended role of being a CQB weapon lol

#

and it gives up too much range

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

so it just ended up being issued to pathfinders who had a use for a "smaller" pulse rifle

opaque coyote
#

LMAO

arctic talon
#

lol

opaque coyote
#

in general, if i ever get into the figure collecting of 40k

#

definitely making a t'au army

arctic talon
#

but yeah failure of a carbine lol

#

oh also it was designed to be modular

dapper gyro
#

Tau suits are more diverse than most 40K armies.

arctic talon
#

which is why it has a bunch of attachment options lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

tau suits have an insane level of customization

#

tbh

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

which 10e took away because lack of PPM and wargear costs

opaque coyote
#

the gun is almost as big as him

arctic talon
#

oh also

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it was meant to be lighter then the pulse rifle

#

it did not solve that issue

#

it was the same weight lol

opaque coyote
#

...

#

it does however look fucking cool

arctic talon
#

yeah but the pulse rifle is cooler

#

smh

opaque coyote
#

i lik the tau

#

very cool yes

arctic talon
#

also fire warriors can get shotguns

#

which makes them better then every other factions basic infantry/j

opaque coyote
#

I think there's only really two?

arctic talon
#

unfortunately there's only like 4

#

lol

opaque coyote
#

The combat shotgun and the Astartes assault shotgun

arctic talon
#

or 5

#

do we count munda

opaque coyote
#

oh wait

arctic talon
#

bcs that has

#

A lot

opaque coyote
#

the arbites have uh

arctic talon
#

lol

opaque coyote
#

scoped shotgun

arctic talon
opaque coyote
#

I get that shotguns are much farther than video games portray them as but also...

#

jesus fucking christ

arctic talon
opaque coyote
#

kinda more referring to standard issue

arctic talon
#

lol

opaque coyote
#

and munda shotguns are most likely just

arctic talon
#

DKOK one

opaque coyote
#

"you get them from house"

arctic talon
#

8 shotgun designs then

#

lol

opaque coyote
#

It owuld be cool if Ganger gets munda shotguns

arctic talon
#

also the House weapons

#

are btw exported

#

to the guard

#

(mostly to the necromundan spiders)

opaque coyote
#

we technically have a lot of shotgun designs

arctic talon
#

the necromundan spiders get the bulk of necromunda weapons

#

lol

opaque coyote
#

we just... kinda don't really see em that often

arctic talon
#

pretty famous regiment in lore

#

only one piece of art though

opaque coyote
#

scoped shotgun

#

"They fire powerful shells that can blow craters in their targets from afar"

#

I guess it's slug?

arctic talon
#

old ass art I know

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

only modern dude we have of them

#

but he's a deserter

opaque coyote
#

i do hope the ganger allows us to see necromundan designs

#

idk how or why just uhhh

arctic talon
#

I think orlock, escher, goliath are all on the table

#

Delaque(lower rank stuff)

#

Cawdor goes to zealot

#

but yeah the Necromundan guard are notable for mixed infantry primarily lol

lament shoal
#

Which house is in hive secundus?

tough haven
#

Just had someone say to me on the topic of post apocalyptic movies that 28 days later is a “movie with zero impact that no one has heard of”

lament shoal
#

He's a moron

arctic talon
#

And other noble houses

wintry cloud
arctic talon
#

nowadays the noble/clan houses occasionally go in to gather stuff

#

Relics/archeotech/data

opaque coyote
#

Because he is stupid

#

Like seriously the intro of 28 days later alone was stolen by the Walking Dead show

fervent gull
#

just wanted to ask

arctic talon
#

there was a specific group of AL in that book who were loyalists and managed to not get purged

fervent gull
#

oh

arctic talon
#

the legion as a whole are still hard core traitors

fervent gull
#

I see

#

thx

arctic talon
#

also GW classifies them as traitors

#

in every system ever

#

and the rulebooks all have them as traitors(mostly)

#

Loyalist Alpha Legion are rare and far between

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

well

#

in 40k they're all extinct

#

lol

#

they joined in with loyalist legions/chapters

opaque coyote
#

By other AL anyways

arctic talon
#

The moebius configuration was a specific tactic

#

used by loyalist alpha legion

#

where they'd "align" themselves with traitors

#

and then bleed their forces dry with false intel/bad battle plans and then on the day of the battle sacrifice them as cannon fodder

#

lol

#

pretty fun lore bit imo

#

This is done while pitting them against another traitor force

#

and claiming they're "filthy loyalist scum"

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

not sure

#

lol

opaque coyote
#

I think it was a trust cutscene

#

Eh whatever I don't think it's that

opaque coyote
vague seal
plush mason
#

hmm so the hive scum arent just gangers but cartel enforcers

prime seal
vague seal
opaque coyote
#

"Oh these organics simply don't understand the strength and certainty of steel"

#

Instead of being bitter, they decide to teach them.

vague seal
#

oh that would be bonkers

opaque coyote
#

Basically an evangelical but for the mechanicus.

vague seal
#

being hadron like sibling who's chill than telling you to unfunction yourself lmao

vague seal
opaque coyote
#

Although I can imagine they would be awkward towards the Ogryn because...

#

like

#

The Ogryn wouldn't understand shit.

vague seal
#

basically yeah

opaque coyote
#

Or wouldn't care.

vague seal
#

also true

opaque coyote
#

So they're just constantly confused on how to even appeal to them.

vague seal
#

or trying to fix one of the ogryn's bonehead implants

lament shoal
opaque coyote
#

"Have you ever thought of adding new arms?"

"Nah, two armz are enough to crush 'eretics."

#

"What about fixing you bonehead implant."

#

"Nah beeping too weird."

#

"...how about becoming stronger?"

#

"Ay, I could accept that."

#

"THAT WORKS??"

vague seal
#

oh sounds pretty good

opaque coyote
#

You could also add some flaws.

Y'know how some fuck ass christians who are like

"I simply don't agree with you being gay, but love the sinner not the sin!"

#

I can definitely imagine Pathos being like that

vague seal
#

perhaps, kinda like the judge zealot

opaque coyote
vague seal
#

yeap

plush mason
#

need a bigger anvil

plush mason
#

wtf

arctic talon
tough haven
#

It’s a antipsychotic

#

That can have a drowsy effect

#

Holy fuck 90mg, bro is going to get EPS

#

For reference, at my work, I usually give around 5-10 mg

#

No wonder it’s gonna cause you to lose consciousness

plush mason
#

its a horse that got turned into an anime girl, medical knowledge is the last thing you can expect from her

daring creek
lament shoal
#

She's a mad scientist who likes to experiment on people by putting serums in their drinks

plush mason
#

so a hack and a quack as well as a horse

celest cedar
prime seal
wintry scarab
#

I really hope they do this personality justice. This has the potential to be exactly what i had in my head when i thought of ganger.

#

Also, are the arbites gonna be the the hivers "handlers"? If so, thats going to be cool.

storm jungle
#

Its Zola as their handler.

queen laurel
#

Out of everyone in the ship she's the one who's most knowledgeable on how these types of people work

storm jungle
vagrant fox
#

why not morrow

wintry scarab
wintry scarab
# storm jungle Its Zola as their handler.

Zola seems like a bit of a strange choice to me. hasnt she sort of gone off the rails with that whole wolfer thing? Feels like putting a band of criminals under her isnt the smartest move.

misty vector
#

True but she does have a lot of experience with the cartels in tertium

#

She would know how to utilize them best

full obsidian
#

arent all of the rejects "criminals"

wintry scarab
wintry scarab
misty vector
#

Not sure actually

wintry scarab
#

I thought she was the newest member of the main gang. Besides the commissar. Or was morrow the newest addition. idk myself lol.

wintry scarab
frosty wind
wintry scarab
#

Yeah, thats what i thought. Idk, maybe it will make more sense to me when we actually see the implementation of the gangers.

#

Also i cant imagine that the shipmistress will be too happy about having her ship further infested with lowlifes lol

tough haven
#

6 million gangers

#

Swarm her ship like skaven

wintry scarab
#

Who is this guy? Is he the guy with the blue glowing eye on his portrait?

queen laurel
#

the one you're talking about is kayex

wintry scarab
#

Oh, thats kayexes portrait? I thought that we had a 3rd admech guy but i think i just made it up. (I didnt make it up, i was thinking of a guy from rogue trader)

frosty wind
#

Kayex is youngest and lowest-ranked I assume

#

He is an enginseer after all

prime seal
wintry scarab
# frosty wind Kayex is youngest and lowest-ranked I assume

I thought Hadron was the youngest. She is by far the most human and emotional. I assume admech tend to grow less human with age and modifications. Idk about her rank though. Shes just in charge of the armoury i presume. Kayex also has lines talking about his old age.

#

But then again. I guess age can have symptoms that manifest in many different ways when we are talking about people that live for hundreds of years.

vagrant fox
#

They're not very different in the ranking of things

#

Admech are wildly varied, some keep their emotional bits even at much higher ranks

#

although i believe artisan class is above enginseer still and that image is just from a fanmade thing

craggy ginkgo
# vagrant fox They're not very different in the ranking of things

As far as i know as a Admech player, Technoarcheologists are Generally considered to be higher ranking than most Enginseers, as Enginseers are perceived with a little bit of derision due to being "just" maintainers and fixers rather than inventors or discoverers as the Technoarcheologists are. To be trusted with the role of Technoarcheologist is a big honorable thing, although it is also usually given to tech priests who are more on the socially difficult side to get them away from the forgeworld.

So it creates a really interesting dynamic between Hadron and Kayex. Hadron technically outranks Kayex, however she is working to fix and maintain which is a Enginseers speciality, not a Technoarcheologists, and is forced to rely on Kayex's expertise. It also doesnt help that Kayek is older and could have easily been higher ranking than her, but due to his work for a rogue trader, i suspect his rank climb in Admech has been put on hold, adding more disbalance to the dynamic.

vagrant fox
#

yea you're rite it would seem

#

This is from the 7th ed codex, artisans are a bit above enginseers

#

Couldn't for the life of me find it but surprise surprise, it was on the lexicanum. Whoever edits that place should be shot or something

craggy ginkgo
#

pray to the datagheists more for assistance

storm jungle
#

theres no "higher rank" other than Magii/Magoses, all techpriests can just outrank each other depending on experience, knowledge, etc

vagrant fox
#

is youse sayin' i'm a liar?

storm jungle
#

Always

craggy ginkgo
storm jungle
#

Admech hierarchy has always been extremely loose.

forest orbit
#

Unless you're a Magos of something honestly yeah lol