40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

^

genchat is a shithole

[vagrant fox]

I'm over my fun now as well, you can go back to campaigning to get general chat deleted

[vagrant fox]

Elite you're an AOSer do you know of any good novels besides Dark Harvest

[queen laurel]

On the shoulders of giants

God eaters son

[vagrant fox]

[queen laurel]

Are you into monsters?

[vagrant fox]

Ish, not really. I just figure it's time I learn more AoS instead of putting it off for tomorrow

[arctic talon]

Hamilcar: Champion of the Gods is good imo

God eaters son is excellent as mentioned

Callis and Tolls stuff is good

[queen laurel]

Oh I see, what about ghouls suffering a delusion thinking They are good guys and are knights doing the right thing but instead they are cannibals that eat people

Like their vision is all nice and rosy and flowers and then in reality they are just eating the insides of a person alive

[vagrant fox]

Ah yeah the guy with the cool model, why not

[queen laurel]

This one is pretty good

[vagrant fox]

Competent people at last, yellowname(slur) up there ☝️ was useless

his name's really funny to me, heroes fall

[arctic talon]

Oh also

I really like this short story

https://i0.wp.com/www.trackofwords.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/The-Garden-of-Mortal-Delights.jpg?w=300&ssl=1

[vagrant fox]

Many thanks, hopefully I'll get through some while I'm stuck at my parents over Christmas

Oh Rath can't miss

[arctic talon]

Rath writes sylvaneth well

@vagrant fox also if you want some horror adjacent stuff Gloomspite is good

[vagrant fox]

I always were a megasimp for High Elves in WHFB, there's not that many Lumineth novels though are there?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[vagrant fox]

c'est la vie, I got plenty

[fossil current]

I have never seen these handguns before. What could they be

Looks like an iron warriors brand Deagle

[zenith remnant]

My favorite comment was Crackhead Starlord

[queen laurel]

Stub pistols probably

[celest dome]

Autopistols

[queen laurel]

Nah that would be the SMG

[zenith remnant]

The Iron Warriors discord will love it

Hazard stripes are basically a meme in its own right

[celest dome]

true and correct

[zenith remnant]

No Civvie, it's a Mac-11

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361366630118064400/1435426444368150671/image0.gif?ex=691f0a4d&is=691db8cd&hm=f5b0ff027698cb9904270eb25580abacc82472e7614e4aa5a8d858f568251b3d&

[arctic talon]

Stub pistol/auto pistol

[queen laurel]

Nah I'm pretty sure that's a stub pistol The auto pistol is definitely the one

The ganger lady was using

[valid needle]

Sigmar is the lost 2nd legion primarch.

[queen laurel]

And the one with the silencer

[valid needle]

Hes basically lion el Jonson and obviously 2nd legion primarch who fell through the warp.

[queen laurel]

That's the auto pistol

[arctic talon]

Die

[celest dome]

The Emperor wish

[valid needle]

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

[arctic talon]

Sigmar was born to normal people

So it literally can’t be true

He also was a normal really buff human

lol

[celest dome]

Sigmar is much better than anything the Emperor has created

[valid needle]

So was the Emperor👀

[queen laurel]

The f*** you mean normal human bro he was brawling black orcs

[arctic talon]

lol

[queen laurel]

How is that normal

[celest dome]

But not the Primarchs

[arctic talon]

Humans are just built that way in whfb and AoS

lol

[fringe moth]

I am curious what the tape on the bastardized mac10 is supposed to be

[valid needle]

Except Lion El’Jonson, of course.

[celest dome]

No

[arctic talon]

Prolly to keep the thing attached to the barrel fastened on

[celest dome]

The Lion still was a genocidal ass

[vagrant fox]

I swear I've seen those pistols somewhere, not the old 1911 art

[fringe moth]

but what thing

[arctic talon]

It’s munda

[valid needle]

Aren’t we all

In warhammer

[fringe moth]

it seems falsely reminiscient of the fabric grip

[arctic talon]

A barrel extender, makeshift silencer? Idfk

[celest dome]

They're on some of the cosmetics maybe ? Some of the coat have pistols and such

[languid meadow]

I mean you can hear it shoot in the trailer

[fringe moth]

no yeah but what is it attaching to the magazine

[arctic talon]

Oh

[fringe moth]

its tied to smt below

some laser sight would be cool

[queen laurel]

But here's the thing sigmar is a genuinely good person, hell his personal soldier lightning warriors the storm casts are genuinely good people and would go through hell just to save one person

Of course there are storm casts with not the brightest record

But they are much more and I mean much more reasonable than any marine in 40k

[celest dome]

And Sigmar accept ex-Chaos warriors

[arctic talon]

Also whfb isn’t genocidal aside from the orcs

lol

[storm jungle]

Its a classic design cue in "lowly" character design like bottom of the soceity folk

[arctic talon]

And chaos I guess

[languid meadow]

well and skaven

[storm jungle]

basically wrappings around your weapons, clothing etc usualyl givess of that vibe

a lot of designers do it

[celest dome]

I'll join the Stormcast the moment they allow me to fight with an anvil, not before

[arctic talon]

Skaven aren’t alive

They don’t count

[celest dome]

Skaven still have souls no ?

[arctic talon]

They have one big shared soul

Technically

But yes

[celest dome]

They do ?

[fringe moth]

yeah thats what I thought, but visually it also looks like it is tying something to the barrel from below

[plush mason]

wait what

[celest dome]

Dman forgot that

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

Rat king species

[arctic talon]

It’s confirmed in a 4e AoS book

[storm jungle]

Id wager its mostly to imply "this rag is the only thing holding it together" yeah lol

[arctic talon]

A amethyst mage

Basically tries to read a captured skaven soul

[vagrant fox]

Ok yeah the pistol is pretty 'munda, to no great surprise

[arctic talon]

And it’s just one big thing where all other skaven are constantly fighting for more of it

[fringe moth]

heh I suppose thats the most likely explanation, I was just huffing some copium for a laser sight

[celest dome]

The skaven's souls were something else.

They glowed, but not like fire. They were molten glass, liquid in their brightness, and they mixed together, browns and bronzes and dull ugly greens, colours like old bruises. Their soul light flowed through them, around them, bunching and spreading, rushing back and forth. It was as though the skaven shared one massive soul between them, but every one of them wanted it all. Every skaven was fighting for more, constantly drawing in light and colour from those around them and having it stolen back, a never-ending battle to grasp the essence they all shared and hoard it in themselves. The skaven in some ways were all one, but it was a one at war with itself; predatory, hungry, consuming. And the Clawlord that stood on the litter was the hungriest of all, his essence a vast mass far larger than his body, a barbed tangle of thorns limned in that toxic green fire that ripped at the souls of the skaven surrounding him and pulled their pieces into himself.

Damn

[arctic talon]

It’s not in a literal sense

That they have one soul

But it might as well be that

[humble shoal]

Playable stormvermin confirmed

[queen laurel]

Yeah can't the great horned rat literally sever every skaven soul easily because of that and that's how he threatened them to stay put?

[humble shoal]

Versus would be way more fun if they let you be elites

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-shrug-oh-really-what-gif-3802473

[languid meadow]

LFD verus lets you play as a tank

where is my boss rats

[humble shoal]

Yes yes good good

[humble shoal]

You can play as a rat ogre....

[queen laurel]

And bile troll

[humble shoal]

Or a bile troll

[fringe moth]

My god (emperor) I am so sad to be a console pleb

I wanted to play versus

[languid meadow]

not enough

[fringe moth]

But alas

[wintry cloud]

Guys help

My friend wants a GOOD space wolves book

!!

[fringe moth]

book club chat might be slightly more proficient in that

[wintry cloud]

Yeah if it was active

[storm jungle]

Nah its fine we are pretty spastic with the topics we jump from lol

[vagrant fox]

The same people would answer anyways

[storm jungle]

I got you broski

very fun book

[arctic talon]

Ragnar trilogy good

[rocky gale]

Damn you guys jumped on it before me, I was going to tell him to ask in Book Club and then answer saying "I don't know" when he asked again in Book Club

[vagrant fox]

I remember reading Blood of Asaheim and liking it just fine but I genuinely can't remember anything about it

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-widow-hornet-bonk-arito-gif-13643966964603239778

[fringe moth]

Tzeentch vibe

[dapper gyro]

Everyone in this chat has a psychotic episode from time to time.

[queen laurel]

I don't know man but me personally I'm just f****** stupid

There is nothing up here man there is nothing up here

[vagrant fox]

me as fuck bro I don't read but I love my king

[rocky gale]

Yooo it's me, I love the King in Yellow and media that references it

[arctic talon]

I read the novel and forced my players to do shit related to it in pathfinder

lol

[rocky gale]

My Nighthaunt are yellow in reference to him

[queen laurel]

That's an uncruel and unusual punishment?

[wintry cloud]

Im not reading that book lmao

[arctic talon]

No

Because it was fun for them

Smh

[outer wave]

Me with any classic fictional novel

[queen laurel]

I see

[arctic talon]

Also I had to improvise on the fly because one of the players figured out the gimmick of Carcosa

Of dreams/the mind becoming reality

I had a whole thing planned where they had to do a “show” and follow a script in essence

But as a combat

But one of my players said they imagined “the king” stepping onto the stage so I decided to go with that instead and had no combat instead

Anyways I’m going to use the stage performance fight for some other thing prolly

[celest dome]

Best trick I did on some of my regular players was having 4 player, and each having been given a theme that was linked to the 4 Riders of the Apocalypse, without the other being told that they were given themes either.
Then have them realise it, have to confront the BBEG who was gonna cause the apocalypse in their land, then have them chose between doing it where they live, or in another country

[opaque coyote]

"Man, this play is very interesting, I wonder what's ne-"

[celest dome]

So went from:

• Have to prevent the end of the world
• We're causing the end of the world
• We're trying to stop it still
• We have to cause the end of the world

[arctic talon]

That shit goes hard

But yeah I’m glad my players are creative

[arctic talon]

Because dumping the king in yellow right in front of them

Was a 10/10 for me

And I hope for them as well, they seemed to like it

But I can’t read minds lmao

[opaque coyote]

Honestly thought for a second that the "BBEG" was actually gonna be a hero trying to stop them from causing the apocalypse

[celest dome]

I mean, the second big target they had was a Hero and their team

[opaque coyote]

So the BBEG was basically a situation of

"NO I DON'T WANT YOU TO CAUSE THE APOCALYPSE! I WANT ME TO CAUSE IT!!"

[celest dome]

More like Galactus calling Heralds, but those heralds attacking him cause they want to save their planets

[languid meadow]

what the fuck stargate is getting something new?

[celest dome]

Then realising that a planet need to be destroyed, so you have to do your job

[rocky gale]

That's nothing, Spartacus is getting a new series

[languid meadow]

what is going on

[rocky gale]

The show that ended like 12 fucking years ago

[opaque coyote]

I'm now just imagining all of them doing rock paper scissors

"Okay which lands shall we ravage and murder?"

[arctic talon]

Roll a dice

Smh

[vagrant fox]

man I gotta stop this dorkass apocalypse so I can be the dark lord instead

[lament shoal]

The chaos gods in AoS are the same ones in 40k right? Or are they just different versions for their respective universe?

Ik there's a whole multiverse thing going on

[median star]

their the same concepts but not like the exact same i think?

[arctic talon]

Different ones

The multiverse isn’t relevant

[lament shoal]

Gotcha ty

[arctic talon]

Either that or they’re tiny bits of some greater whole

But that’s unlikely

The chaos gods in AoS are much more

How do I say this

[celest dome]

Is the Great Game still not current in lore ?

[arctic talon]

They’re less eldritch

[arctic talon]

It is

It’s just that the multiverse is irrelevant generally

So shouldn’t be brought up imo

Beyond the fact the chaos gods jump between shit

[celest dome]

Isn't it possible that the different depictions are just different facets of the same thing

Like how both the GHR and the Emperor will both end up as facets of the same thing/domain

[arctic talon]

Maybe

But slaanesh is chained up in AoS

And has 2 unique “daughters” in it

[mossy peak]

truth nuke

[arctic talon]

So they’re a bit weird

[median star]

lol

[wintry cloud]

It is, usually described that time isn’t relevant in the warp

[storm jungle]

WAIT

It happened a THIRD TİME?

[outer wave]

I thought it was under a different name?

Oh it happened a third time OHHHH

[storm jungle]

Yeah the 2nd one was SonsofHorus or some shit

[queen laurel]

Mr President horus Galaxy has been remade into the eye of terror

[wintry cloud]

Theres this from 2018 and this from 2023

[celest dome]

Wasn't it named after the Ship the duel happened on ?

[mossy peak]

at least chudhammers mostly contained there instead of bothering the rest of us

[storm jungle]

OH RIGHT Vengefulspirit

[celest dome]

Or is it the 4th sub

[storm jungle]

Venge is second

HorusGalaxy was first

fucking worms lol

[rocky gale]

Yep, Spartacus: House of Ashur, in which Ashur in the afterlife is shown what his life could have been if his plan succeeded

[celest dome]

Not even got the decency to remain dead

[storm jungle]

[wintry cloud]

And then this came out a few months ago this year

[storm jungle]

Yeah the chaos gods are very much multiversal

theres ironically dozens of sources both old and modern confirming this

[crystal forum]

multiverse slop

[celest dome]

tbf, the multiverse stuff is rare enough that I don't mind

[wintry cloud]

One day GW will make a MCU equivalent movie universe

I will cry that day

In pain

[languid meadow]

Oh yeah Zaahen came out today

[wintry cloud]

How is he?

[humble shoal]

After the cavill show happens

[wintry cloud]

Yep then we hit comic slop tier

If we’re not there already

[plush mason]

@queen laurel since you are the best one to ask, is there a difference between a pain boi and a mad doc?

[languid meadow]

unchanged from PBE as far as I know so he can hit 1200 ad autos with max determination

[wintry cloud]

Scary guy

[humble shoal]

Titman warden of utramaw captain of the sigma company

[opaque coyote]

Actually I would like to know as well

Although my best guess it's similar to how

A surgeon and a doctor is different?

[rocky gale]

Really?

[opaque coyote]

One fixes what's wrong

The other diagnoses

And tells you what your options are

[plush mason]

or its like a nob to a regular boi, mad doc being the nob is my guess

[opaque coyote]

Oh

Mad Doc is just another name for Pain Boyz

[plush mason]

that was my other guess

because i hear it used interchangeably a lot

[opaque coyote]

Although there does exist Bad Doks

"There exists a subclass of Painboyz known as "Bad Doks". All others pale in their eccentricity compared to these Painboyz and they are outcasts of their own tribes due to the unnecessary surgery they inflict upon their prey. Patients who fall victim to a Bad Dok can find themselves with mechanical lungs, extra limbs, or head transplanted onto a new body. For a Bad Dok there is no need for payment, the surgery itself is a reward."

[celest dome]

Painboys are the same as Mad Doks

[arctic talon]

On PBE he was broken as fuck

So first champion riot has released broken as fuck in a while

lol

[opaque coyote]

So basically Bad Doks are basically just Painboyz that really can't control themselves

[arctic talon]

Oh also Mel got her first non arcane related skin

lol

[celest dome]

Rogue Painboys

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Now I'm just imagining this image

[arctic talon]

It’s uncanny seeing Mel not in her arcane outfit or league Noxian outfit

https://preview.redd.it/prestige-winterblessed-mel-splash-art-v0-6w1v4s1hb22g1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0de8c737bbf01ee9766aa1831fb9b55d2bfde35e

[opaque coyote]

"KONTROL YERSELF YA GITZ. STOP STAPLIN' HUMIE COCKZ ONTO PEOPLE"

"BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. I NEED THIS!!"

"I'M ABOUTTA KRUMP YA I SWEAR TO GORK AND MORK-"

[humble shoal]

I DIDNT GO THROUGH 4 UEARS OF ORK MEDICAL SCHOOL TO BE CALLED A GIT. IM DOKTA GIT

[arctic talon]

lol

[queen laurel]

Mad doks it's in the name people already probably answered but

They are usually crazy by ork standards

Pain boys are the general classification

Mad dokz are pain boys that are actually crazy

[plush mason]

i see

[queen laurel]

@opaque coyote here's your answer as well

[queen laurel]

Yeah pain boy is the profession

Mad doks are the crazy workers in the profession

This is also the same reason grotsnik is also referred by
Mad dok Grotsnik

They usually also perform the dreaded squig brain transplant

[opaque coyote]

There any lore on what result it exactly gives

Or does it just... kill the Boyz completely

Cause a Squig in an Ork body sounds

Hilariously macabre

[queen laurel]

Well not really but by the name you can guess that it's not a good thing for the health of the ork

[opaque coyote]

Definitely not, but Orks that act like Squigs sounds darkly entertaining to have as a unit

I like evil scientists in general

In fiction of course

Istg somebody accused me of being a Nazi because Dottore was one of my favorites

I CAN LIKE EVIL BASTARD CHARACTERS

[vagrant fox]

Italian likers are ontologically evil

[west pendant]

I hate italians, every day im surrounded by them

[zenith remnant]

We're in a 40k game's server, I don't think you have to worry about people getting onto you for liking evil assholes here

[rocky gale]

So long as you only like the same evil assholes that I do

[zenith remnant]

The objectively 'best' characters in all of 40k are just as if not more evil than some outright sadistic sickfucks in the same setting, they just get real sad about it because 'it has to be done' and 'things used to be better'

[mossy peak]

i love angron

[zenith remnant]

"Well I'm really sorry but I'm going to order mass executions of unarmed civilians who broke no laws because you saw a Silvery dude I'd rather you not talk about, shame it had to happen, I'm gonna go mope about it in my literal ivory tower on my giant gold-trimmed space ship and drink space martinis about it"

"Yes we HAVE mind wiping tech and psychic weirdos who could just make you forget all about the silvery dude, but you have to understand, the lasbolts use less energy"

[languid meadow]

Old Grey Knight lore fucking suckssssss

[zenith remnant]

"Old"? Do they no longer execute the witnesses?

[rocky gale]

Yea, it became impractical

[arctic talon]

They only execute people when it’s really bad now

Otherwise there’s no point at this point

There’s literally a giant warp rift that can be seen in the sky always

[zenith remnant]

Riiight, the Rift. Hard to keep Chaos a secret when it's literally splitting the galaxy in half.

[languid meadow]

It's also just less stupid

I don't want to throw around the "grimderp" label but this one instance begs me to

I HATE IT

[zenith remnant]

Full honesty, yeah, Grey Knights have always been the largest (imperial) recipient of the mixed bag

[languid meadow]

yeah they're not the only faction who is in this weird spot but most people talk about them since they're imperials

[storm jungle]

i dont know where people are getting the "no kill" rule from

[arctic talon]

I never said they didn’t kill people

[languid meadow]

dilara can't read messages 💔

[arctic talon]

I just said they don’t kill unless shits bad

[storm jungle]

I dont wanna read

[languid meadow]

A true 40k fan

[rustic patrol]

They have wrist strapped acid grenades to melt people alive

Souce : Altar of Cyrene

[arctic talon]

Which is true from what we’ve seen

[arctic talon]

Based

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

SUPERVILLAIN SHIT

[storm jungle]

😭

[languid meadow]

lmfao

[storm jungle]

i accidentally deleted my message FUCK

[languid meadow]

I was so confused

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082483302671319191/1303581140682276895/minecraft_discord.gif

[storm jungle]

i was trying to delete every other message so id be right......

got caught Nixon handed

[languid meadow]

HK really going in on the SCP connections

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rustic patrol]

lol, I was like "oh, I guess the GW GK favoritism was IRL and they ordered a mind wipe on Dilara"

[arctic talon]

GW does not have favoritism for GK

They’re like

The most neglected imperium faction lmao

They’re more neglected then craftworld eldar

💀

[rocky gale]

They found a Batman comic and thought it was pretty cool

[languid meadow]

fuck

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

Let him cook-

damn deleted it

[storm jungle]

its even funnier when you read this edition's codex

i LOVE how fucked up they got

there has to be primaris reinforcements coming next edition

[arctic talon]

Nah

They’ll just get a magical book

[storm jungle]

Nah

they'll get minis

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside I’d assume they’ll find some treasure trove of recruits

[storm jungle]

bitch-ass

[arctic talon]

Not primaris

Bcs fucking Crowe

Isn’t primaris

[storm jungle]

they're 100% gonna get primaris

[arctic talon]

If you’re wrong

[zenith remnant]

The Good: Good theming, (most) of the models are cool, it makes sense that there would be a dedicated anti-daemon Chapter that the Imperium gives all the best anti-daemon stuff to, being Chapter 666 when there weren't even any successor chapters yet is so stupid it's genius

The bad: Baby carrier dreadknight, using the blood of Sisters of Battle like they're using Khornate Blood Magic, slaughtering witnesses out of hand, what do you mean Kaldor Draigo is living in the Warp, "Hey, don't let the Emps off the throne, just like, stop him somehow"

[storm jungle]

mark my words

[arctic talon]

I’m going to mail you a pipe bomb

Smh

[rocky gale]

The magic book of Primaristo, which enhances them to be bigger and stronger and have models that don't look bad

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-pipe-bomb-gif-11987700991386067050

[languid meadow]

even if they dont just give them a fucking resize please

[rustic patrol]

lol, Primaris psyker GKs?

well I guess they already have Primaris Librarians
(and the Imperial Guard Primaris psykers sigh so confusing)

[arctic talon]

They already got one good resized mini

Btw

[languid meadow]

firstborns CAN look good just look at Horus Heresy models

[arctic talon]

Which was Crowe

[languid meadow]

oops almost abbreviated horus heresy

[zenith remnant]

Kanye moment

[storm jungle]

The SoB incident is older than most people on this server, we really need to move on from it at this point, witness killing is also fine knowing how chaos corruption badly gets, the Terminus Decree was also a nothingburger and nobody cares about it anymore

i do agree on the Dreadpoopknight and Draigo thing though

[languid meadow]

I think Grey Knights have some of the best aesthetics for any marine faction

imo

I love their goofy knight helmets

[storm jungle]

They're pretty neat.

[zenith remnant]

Dilara, nobody cares about it because nobody cares about GKs anymore lmao

[storm jungle]

Shape

nobody cares about it because warhammer controversies all last 1-2 weeks

lmao

This happens for popular factions like the Ultras too

[zenith remnant]

That's a y'all problem, my memory works.

[languid meadow]

we must get mad at the next ultramarine model anyway

[storm jungle]

Yeha because uhhh

opens script

its a non-white guy

[zenith remnant]

Primaris Lieutenants, get yer Primaris Lieutenants here

[languid meadow]

My only problem with the whole terminus decree is that I liked it being a mystery

[arctic talon]

He’s a captain

[languid meadow]

not everything needs an answer

[arctic talon]

Akshully

[rocky gale]

The 40k balancing team are hard at work trying to figure out how they can come up with unique rules for a third Calgar model

[arctic talon]

Also yeah the mystery was better but whatever

[arctic talon]

Termie calgar has the same rules

As Gravis calgar

lol

Just he’s in termie armor

[storm jungle]

I like how people say they loved the "mystery" when it was literally fucking nothing

[lament shoal]

Lower deck voidship worker waking up in his hab unit during a warp jump:

[storm jungle]

"Its a box"

[arctic talon]

That was fun

Okay

Fuck you smh

Box good

[storm jungle]

You know what else is fun

me stuffing you in a locker

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-gif-24248233

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1377109813854736494.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=TheSilly

[arctic talon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

[arctic talon]

He literally does

Like I’m not fucking with you lol

He has a better save and worse toughness

That’s the only change

[rocky gale]

So different rules

[languid meadow]

this one?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

I would not call that different rules

Tbh

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smerk-gif-3649197029996930170

[zenith remnant]

How much is the Calgar model?

[arctic talon]

Like

[lament shoal]

About tree fiddy

[rustic patrol]

massively over valued and probably 3 digits like everything else

[arctic talon]

65$ usd direct from GW

[arctic talon]

Are you stupid

lol

[rustic patrol]

65?! I thought nameds were at least a 100

[lament shoal]

NO LOL

bruh

[rocky gale]

£34 from GW, £27 from 3rd party

[arctic talon]

Bro what

Yeah I don’t think any named character but the fucking knight dude is 3 digits

lol

[rustic patrol]

like one Titan Volcano cannon is like 165. It's almost the same amount of plastic as a full mini. How is a character cheaper?

[arctic talon]

Nvm

Daemon primarchs are

[arctic talon]

Resin, low production number

Also do you know how big a warlord titan is

Compared to a normal mini

[rustic patrol]

it's just a weapon

[lament shoal]

Zard did you get scalped without knowing and that made you think that's how they're normally priced? 😭

[rustic patrol]

one attachment

not even the full model

[rocky gale]

Titan Volcano cannon is a single weapon for a Warlord Titan

and it's resin

[languid meadow]

if you're buying a warlord you're buying it as a display piece because it's so fucking massive it's impractical

[rustic patrol]

I never looked at the Space Marine minis individually.

[arctic talon]

That tiny dude down there is a normal marine mini

lol

[languid meadow]

oh wait they're gonna say where Khan went?

[arctic talon]

No

[languid meadow]

worded that way

[arctic talon]

No sane person has ever bought a warlord titan

lol

[zenith remnant]

All this talk of pricing makes me thankful I stick to Vidya.

[arctic talon]

Excluding epic scale

[languid meadow]

"Expect grand battles, bloody revenge, and political intrigue as the series unfolds across the early years of the 31st Millennium. Will we discover what really happened within the Iron Cage, or where certain carefree outriders disappeared to? Who knows – but if you pre-order this weekend, you’ll be taking the first step towards finding out."

"carefree outriders" is linked to Jaghatais model

[rocky gale]

Knew someone who had 2

[arctic talon]

We’re just going to get confirmation he actually vanished into the webway

Imo

Also the daemon primarchs are 3 digit price wise in USD

[zenith remnant]

My friend once offered to send me the Iron Warriors out of some Horus Heresy box he got and I turned him down because I know why drug dealers give out free hits

[arctic talon]

I forgor about them

[languid meadow]

we'll see since at this point it could just be anything really

the world is playdough

[lament shoal]

You're in the iron warriors server, you're already an addict

[zenith remnant]

To artillery, yes. To plastic crack? No.

[rocky gale]

Sooner or later it gets you

[arctic talon]

people grossly underestimate the size of the titan minis

in general tbh

lol

[zenith remnant]

It can't get me if I'm too broke to afford it lmao.

[rocky gale]

Even then

[zenith remnant]

Also I have no space to put a table for any of it, even if I could afford it. I live in a tiny cottage.

[arctic talon]

like jfc lol

anyways

if the plastic warhound, thunderhawk and Taunar rumors are true

I'll be very surprised

they would unironically be some of the biggest wargaming plastic miniatures ever made lol

[zenith remnant]

I love that the Tau philosophy for dealing with Titans matches Imperial philosophy for dealing with literally anything

"Big enemy? Bigger gun"

[languid meadow]

Gun faction

but this reminded me of the new tau characters

I love this

[languid meadow]

well not "new" im pretty sure they are mentioned somewhere else before their models

[arctic talon]

They're codex lore nerds

yeah

those are new suits though

they used to be in iridium battlesuits

some suit comparison

Crisis's are prolly getting made bigger

with the refresh

like they are in modern art

[rose thorn]

i know their battle wiht the gsc is mentioned but htey arent by name in i believe the 8th ediiton tau codex? Idk thats thesource o fwho i believe htey fought on GSC end

i thgouht it was the disciples of the bleeding star but it could be uhhhhhhhh

Endocult fellowship haev foguht tau, i doubt its them since the endocult only live on ships

Hivewyrm

but thats from the deathwatch codex

OH Illumismatic Order of the Ever Turning Cog have alot of tau lore but it deosmt seem to fit the context of the new guys

is there a lex page ofr these guy sI can check

[languid meadow]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Twin_Lance it gives not a whole lot

and the source also gives not a whole lot as well

[rose thorn]

ah okay

well if its on a tau calimed wordl, its Ever turning cog, if its on a ship its endocult, and if its on saint's halt its hivewyrm

Scitaluss Altus for everturning

[lament shoal]

Average tau combat philosophy:

[mossy peak]

what does it look like

[rocky gale]

Up close it looks like this

[lament shoal]

Daemon world conversion?

[rocky gale]

It's a world being consumed by the Great Rift

[lament shoal]

Ah gotcha

[mossy peak]

that doesn’t look good

[lament shoal]

Oh it really isn't lmao

[valid needle]

What in the skibidi doo da

[daring creek]

If the Emperor wanted to be seen as just a man. He did a real shit job at it. So much more could have been done to prevent himself, his primarchs and astartes from being seen as gods. And these Mournival rituals seriously aren't helping. These oaths are cringe. As atheistic as they wish to be. It still feels plenty fuckin religious.

Kind of cult-y as well.

If you really want to humanize someone. You have to constructively criticize them. Expose their flaws

[wintry cloud]

Man
I would say “id just kill myself” if i saw this but im pretty sure just looking at it would make my brain melt

Jesus christ

[vagrant fox]

the whole horus heresy is stupid
Emps wanted to be followed and the primarchs were war criminals who respected power so a form which projects that was chosen

[daring creek]

And the Emperor fucking knows this will only lead to 40k

Something something he saw infinite futures and all of them were shit. Yeah?

So like. Why this path? Why have your primarchs and yourself look so fucking angelic?

Does he just want to see humanity struggle in an entertaining way?

[vagrant fox]

Future reading is murky in 40k at best tbh

[daring creek]

[vagrant fox]

He didn't have the current 40k in mind, he wanted humanity to psychically evolve to be like him. Directly intervene in humanitys future, conquer the webway to eliminate warp travel and all that
Unless that's older lore

[lament shoal]

Yeah thats part of his whole arc. He was arrogant and thought he understood humanity when he really didn't. But because he's got max level charisma and a golden aura, people in the setting take him seriously

[daring creek]

Is there a saying about a characters intelligence only being truly measured by how smart the author is

[vagrant fox]

Personally I don't see him as a character, just the nonsensical mess of too many cooks in the kitchen

[daring creek]

Likely

Lmfao

[languid meadow]

general 40k problem

[vagrant fox]

Decidedly a Horse Heresy problem

[languid meadow]

warhammer problem

[daring creek]

House horesy

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-greg-house-james-wilson-hilson-house-and-wilson-gif-14711314540112464893

It's a mess. Either way he saw a decent enough future, by his metrics, even if he had to become the biggest genocider of all time to achieve it

there it is

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/lgrk4t/excerptthe_master_of_mankind_the_emperor_explains/

Prescience in 40k is kind of beans

[burnt maple]

You wouldnt?

[young pecan]

That could not possibly coexist with his massive ego

[opaque coyote]

I always thought that the Psyker's beloved are actually just multiple... people? (would daemons be considered people?)

Like for shits and giggles I love to imagine that there is an actual shard of the emperor

Then a Tzeentchian daemon

Just fucking shouting in their head

Like it's a roommate situation, and it so happens that the dorm is this random unsanctioned Psyker's poor brain

[young pecan]

Isn't every psyker in Darktide sanctioned? Or is Seer not

[opaque coyote]

I think all of them are unsanctioned

But just got employed later

And also somehow didn't get kidnapped and/or shot the entire time

[arctic talon]

all of the personalities are unsanctioned

[young pecan]

I swore on at least one of them they personally talked about being on a black ship

[opaque coyote]

Anyways my personal headcanon is that the "beloved" is basically just a bunch of warp entities

And the Psyker just mistakes it as the same person

[lament shoal]

How is the savant not sanctioned

They were an enforcer before the events of the game

[arctic talon]

illegally

[lament shoal]

They even talk about their extensive training in dialogue with the cutthroat

[arctic talon]

you do not need to be sanctioned

getting training != sanctioning by the Astra Telepathica

[lament shoal]

This is mentioned in game?

[arctic talon]

I mean they literally got turned over to the Tancred Bastion

so I think we can assume that

they got thrown under the bus

and also the Savant has never been on a black ship

which would be a requirement to become sanctioned

[vagrant fox]

One of the defining moments you can pick at chargen is getting picked up by black ships and trained by the psykana afaik
What's said by the personalities indicates they're not sanctioned though as far as I'm aware

[arctic talon]

yeah

the personalities all indicate they're not sanctioned

seeing as none of them have been on the blackships before

[vagrant fox]

Loner definitely talks about hiding from witch seekers

[lament shoal]

Classic 40k having contradictory info lol

[vagrant fox]

It's a bit weird to be in there but it lets you roleplay a bit so w/e

[young pecan]

It sounds like they mostly let it stay up to you

On whether you got Black Ship'd or not

[arctic talon]

Background choices don’t matter though

Not for the black ship thing as far as I can tell

[young pecan]

They don't matter in any way except individually, unless there's a voice line that inherently contradicts it

Or established lore w/e

[arctic talon]

There’s voicelines that contradict the blackship background option

[young pecan]

What are the voicelines though

[valid needle]

It’s the emperor. He is bored on the throne and wanted a penpal.

[opaque coyote]

There is also a voice line where the Psyker dreams of a shifting pink palace

Which is implied to be Tzeentch's realm

With a voice that almost sounds like their beloved

So I think it's a mixture of Emperor and Tzeentch tbh

[valid needle]

It gets lonely on the throne😖

[arctic talon]

They talk about how if the other psykers have heard how their brothers/sisters suffer aboard the black ship

[opaque coyote]

It probably also explains why nobody senses anything wrong.

Because talking with a Daemon causes ripples in the warp

Like scratches

[arctic talon]

And the times I’ve heard it they all respond in a way that indicates they never experienced it

[jade holly]

Is Arbites a fun class to get?

[arctic talon]

Like “it is said they are truly awful”

Ect.

[opaque coyote]

The Loner Psyker is my favorite

Primarily because

They're a borderline heretic

[valid needle]

One says my beloved says the high lords aren’t listening to him anymore

[opaque coyote]

Kinda only there because they really have nothing better

[jade holly]

My favorite Oggy personality is the one that keeps saying Sah’

especially when he interacts with Cadia vets

I think it’s that vet anyways

[opaque coyote]

I think my favorite interactions are between loose cannon vet and dreamer Psyker

[jade holly]

I love how loose cannon keeps rage baiting the Cutthroat

That’s the Cadia one right?

[opaque coyote]

It's like the designated driver bantering with their friend who's drunk as shit

[opaque coyote]

Only if the cutthroat chose cadia as their origin

But yeah

"Oh don't cry, you'll break... just like Cadia!"

[lament shoal]

He does say his actual beloved rescues him at the last second

[jade holly]

Are fans still on the fence whether Dreamer is talking to Big E or not?

[opaque coyote]

I still think the funniest interaction is when the Ogryn is concerned on whether or not Hadron is listening to him

And then Hadron pops up and says

"I am not spying on you"

[jade holly]

We love sassy grandma

[valid needle]

I think it’s Big E or at least a shard of him.

[lament shoal]

Wait does the Cutthroat really not get Cadia lines if you don't choose that as your homeworld?

[jade holly]

All the zealots are amazing ngl

[lament shoal]

Cuz the personality is literally about the character watching cadia fall

[jade holly]

they’re all batshit insane in their own ways

[opaque coyote]

Yup

I think the zealot is the most interesting partially because it gives interesting lore building

Like how Abhumans are considered to have dim souls/soulless by the average Imperial

[summer rock]

i think cutthroat is cadia exclusive if i remember correctly

yeah it is just checked

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but how are the iron hands still around seeing how they withdrew from fighting in the HH?

[arctic talon]

They remained loyal and some kept on fighting

[lament shoal]

I swear I saw the option to pick different homeworlds when I made my cutthroat character

[summer rock]

It’s greyed out if you don’t pick Cadia and although you can select it you can’t actually proceed to the next screen unless you have Cadia as your homeworld

Same deal for the purple cadian eyes

[lament shoal]

Gotcha, ty

[opaque coyote]

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[languid meadow]

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[young pecan]

Wym bro Cadia stands

It's a whole lot of much smaller Cadias now but it stands

[crystal forum]

it's almost like relying on one single planet to hold the entire galaxy together wasn't a very good idea

[young pecan]

You don't say

[crystal forum]

meanwhile terra:

[celest cedar]

how much was the population of cadia before it went kaput

[young pecan]

Random guess is a trillion with how they're fucking everywhere across the galaxy seemingly

[summer rock]

I might be misremembering but I also think that the surviving Cadians continue to have children with each other so there are technically more being born (but are they really cadian if they weren’t born on Cadia?)

[young pecan]

I thought an integral part of Cadians being elite soldiers was killing each other needlessly since their childhood

So I wouldn't call the new ones Cadians unless that institution somehow exists again

[summer rock]

No I think they just conscript the kiddies

The training is probably so brutal that some of them die but that would hardly be a shock to anyone

[opaque coyote]

I'd be surprised if the training was sensible

Every type of training in 40k seems to be tailored to be as needlessly cruel as possible

[young pecan]

I doubt people traumatized by both their unsensible upbringing and their planet's destruction would be very smart about it yeah

[opaque coyote]

A Commissar is forced to check out a T'au military camp (do not ask how)

Sees that they do things like

Give the soldiers in training breaks

Not immediately throw them into live fire exercises

Etc.

He immediately has a seizure

If somebody is unfit for military service they

gasp

Get sent home instead of shot???

@prime seal

Kinda like this

This is sorta what I imagine Felinds would look like

Yes including the ganger ass clothing

[rose thorn]

this looks like yuri if it was made by the straightest men ever

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

1980s

[rose thorn]

true that was really a yaoi era

[opaque coyote]

Jojo moment

[rose thorn]

i was talking about berserk but that too

[opaque coyote]

I still find it wild that JJBA technically has the first Yandere in manga and anime history

[rose thorn]

oh really? i thgouht it was future diary

[dapper gyro]

Many Cadians survived and they created training facilities on other planets. Those then supply troops to different Cadians regiments, including the ones stationing with the IF.

[prime seal]

they're in the guard though

[prime seal]

or they're friends

[dapper gyro]

The Cadians in SM2 are most likely 2nd generation after the destruction of Cadia.

[prime seal]

tbf i dont even understand what youre talking about so i wont argue

[opaque coyote]

JJBA is quite old.

Part 4 was released around 1992-1995. And that's where Yukako was created.

Apparently she was made because Araki was tired of the Genki/Moe archetype that oversaturated every anime/manga ever

[rose thorn]

i was using look as a noun

[opaque coyote]

Berserk is more just...

Trauma tbh

[rose thorn]

it is top 5 yaois ever

its amazing

[opaque coyote]

Absolutely vile

[rose thorn]

MF IT IS PEAK GAY MEDIA

[prime seal]

👎

[rose thorn]

at least season one

[opaque coyote]

I just keep imagining Griffith X Guts

And

[dapper gyro]

GitS is the peak 80s imo.

[opaque coyote]

...

[prime seal]

me when my gay general rapes my girl because i'm not gay

[rose thorn]

literally waht the show was about

[prime seal]

it hasnt been that for like over 300 chapters lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this is more so just in planets rather than in the guard

Ofc I expect Felinds to be wearing guard uniforms while in the guard

[rose thorn]

because its by someone else who did not pick up on teh ques lol

[prime seal]

?

[opaque coyote]

💀

[prime seal]

no its 99% miura

[rose thorn]

the original creater passed away right after the ending of the first arc

[prime seal]

dont question us berserk fans, we havent read the manga

[opaque coyote]

Mag

Are you tired

Or high

[dapper gyro]

Eh?

[prime seal]

strange lie

[rose thorn]

is this because im saying berserk is bad ending yaoi or because im thinking fos omethign else

[prime seal]

miura died after chapter 364

[prime seal]

no its because thats just straight up false

[dapper gyro]

The creator died in 2021...

[rose thorn]

oh wow

[lament shoal]

Berserk is not a yaoi last I checked lmao

[dapper gyro]

He started the series since 1989...

First act my asses.

[prime seal]

3 decades of work

rip miura

[rose thorn]

i was under the impression he passed after the eclipse ended whoops

[opaque coyote]

Dumb

[rose thorn]

I WAS MISINFORMEDDDDD

MY APOLOGZIESSSS

[dapper gyro]

This is not the 1st time Maggie's memory is altered.

We need to bully her more.

[prime seal]

btw berserk starts with guts having sex with a succubus

like thats the first pannel

first time you see guts if you dont count the cover of the chapter

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-punisher-trial-gif-2731039532118799511

[lament shoal]

Do not the deer

[rose thorn]

how it feels to say berserk is gay media

[dapper gyro]

Griffith is bi, but Guts is definitely not.

[prime seal]

it is sort of

griffith is in the closet

[opaque coyote]

I mean...

Didn't Guts get prostituted off when he was a kid

[prime seal]

and guts is just straight

[opaque coyote]

For dudes?

[prime seal]

bro what

mfer READ THE MANGA

it was one dude and he was raped

almost

[dapper gyro]

Forced doesn't make him bi.

[rose thorn]

YEAH

LMA

[prime seal]

he kills him right after, like the day after

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was about to say that he definitely isn't bi

[rose thorn]

griffith and guts arent gay because they were sexually abused by men when they were minors omg

[dapper gyro]

Not gay neither.

[rose thorn]

😭

https://tenor.com/view/griffguts-griffith-guts-berserk-anime-gif-17460584048852882104

[dapper gyro]

If I force you to do stuff without your consent, would you be gay because people you are raped?

[prime seal]

griffith is gay as fuck

[daring creek]

A succubi? Isn't it an apostle???

[prime seal]

guts calls him out frame 1

[opaque coyote]

I swear it was due to Gambino basically prostituting him off to his own gang though.

[daring creek]

I don't think it counts as a succubi

[opaque coyote]

Either that or I misremembered

Could possibly be the case

[rose thorn]

they look into each others eyes lovingly and guts crashed out because he mistakenly thoguht that griffith didnt care for him

[dapper gyro]

Griffith does have romantic feeling for Guts.

[rose thorn]

it is obseenly gay, and all good media is gay

[prime seal]

she didnt even read the manga how would she know what an apostle is lol

[rose thorn]

batman is gay thats like

[prime seal]

succubi is more generic paints a clearer image

[opaque coyote]

He literally dated several women

[prime seal]

what

[rose thorn]

yeah but for the ocncept of batman tow ork its gay

its like

the meta level

hang on wahts the male version of sapphic

[daring creek]

For a second I thought you claimed I didn't read it...I'd have to kill you if that were the case.

I wouldn't say its a succubi though. Id just call it a monster

[prime seal]

griffith looks at him that way

guts is thinking about the bromance

[rose thorn]

ACHILLENA

[prime seal]

not the romance

[rose thorn]

THERE DA,M

[opaque coyote]

"Some time later, Gambino prostituted a sleeping Guts to a pederast mercenary named Donovan. After Guts was raped, he confronted Gambino, who had a hangover. Gambino merely replied that it was too early to train, a reply which made Guts ponder whether he was unaware of the events that unfolded"

[prime seal]

monsters can be men too missus

[dapper gyro]

Griffith x Guts is very one sided. Guts doesn't care and Griffith is sad.

[daring creek]

No they can't :p

[rose thorn]

i, feel like we didn twatch the same show or we treat oury friedns very sided

OMFGGG HE LEFT BECUASE HE FELT LIEK HE WASNT GOOD NEOUGH FOR GRIFFITHHHH

[dapper gyro]

Griffith tried to use Casca as a bait to get Guts' attention.

[opaque coyote]

"That night, Gambino entered Guts' tent in a drunken stupor to kill him. He ranted at Guts, blaming him for the death of Shisu and his condition, going so far in calling him a devil's child. He even confessed to Guts that it was he who sold him to Donovan. When he attempted to slash Guts, Guts mortally wounded him in his throat."

[prime seal]

?

[dapper gyro]

Guts does love Casca.

[rose thorn]

DID WE NOT WATCH THE SAME SHOW???????

[opaque coyote]

Did you read Griffith X Guts fanfic

[prime seal]

no he left to find purpose, he wanted to have his own dream

[opaque coyote]

And then think that was Berserk

[prime seal]

to not just be a follower

[opaque coyote]

[prime seal]

i read and watched it

[rose thorn]

yadda yadda art differnet lenses

[dapper gyro]

The show and the comic are not that different.

[opaque coyote]

... there's different lenses and then there's hallucinating

[prime seal]

uh no

its the same in both

he only came back when he learned they were in trouble

[rose thorn]

omfg i mean, i am sorry i did not ocnsdier form your lense that its not gay as fuck

[prime seal]

i mean

[rose thorn]

form my lense its gay as fuck

[prime seal]

its not my lense

its just what happens lol

[dapper gyro]

Guts loves Casca, Griffith loves Guts. The feelings are not mutual.

[prime seal]

im not talking about my subjective view

its what happens

[opaque coyote]

Griffith is probably gay

Guts definitely isn't

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-griffith-berserk-anime-guts-berserk-gif-24563096

omg crashing out

[prime seal]

bro someone just kill her

mfers cant even look at their day ones

without being called gay

[opaque coyote]

@rose thorn how many hours did you sleep

What time is it for you

[dapper gyro]

Hold on, did you just turned 22?

[rose thorn]

No ive been 22 for like

5 months

[dapper gyro]

Oh, I remember your profile say 21.

[prime seal]

lmfao

whats 9+10

[rose thorn]

deinocamo i got crazy news for you

it did say 21 5 months ago lmao

[dapper gyro]

Anyway, your illness is contagious and it is affecting me.

[prime seal]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[rose thorn]

at least i came out of this learning achillean is at erm

[prime seal]

do you think everything is gay too?

[dapper gyro]

Ehhh... no

[prime seal]

?

[rose thorn]

hang on wheres the guy with the guts breast mouse pad

[prime seal]

oh yeah fax

i can see why someone would be gay for guts

[rose thorn]

man im just, its crazy i really dont understand the straight guts. thats like saying Haikyu!! media is straight to me

[prime seal]

???

whatever dawg

[rose thorn]

google haikyu
500 ai images

[prime seal]

https://tenor.com/view/isaac-clarke-dead-space-goodbye-chat-goodbye-chat-gif-8795671242034358000

[rose thorn]

i hate the internet

[dapper gyro]

Maggie, get off the internet and actually read Berserk.

[rose thorn]

know what, fuck y'all. shockingly all art is subjective. i admit i was wrong for expecting others to perceive it as gay media like me. but I will not kneel because god forbid that anyone else has a different view of the same piece of art because it doesnt match your vision of it

[prime seal]

lol

[lament shoal]

I know Berserk is good but I just don't think I could handle reading or watching it due to certain events that happen in the story

[prime seal]

some warp dust is still stuck in your nose btw

[rose thorn]

what ever get bent fashion, i am gonna go back to studying physics

[prime seal]

you can skip those

[lament shoal]

I just know I would somehow end up coming across them despite my best efforts lol

[prime seal]

im sorry but the guy has spent the last 200 chapters trying to gain the humanity of his traumatised girlfriend back and you trying to pull the "im gonna interpret it MY WAY and call him gay" is just funny thats all

[prime seal]

the more recent stuff has i'd say it has practically none of those its just a lot more emotionally heavy

[dapper gyro]

Eh, if you read the manga instead of watching short meme or 1 or 2 panels, you can see the reaction of the characters.

[prime seal]

takes your heart and smashes it into a gazillion pieces

[dapper gyro]

The characters do talk!!!! They don't just stare at each other in the manga.

[prime seal]

if you read berserk during the boat arc you were fucked

main cast spent the entirety of the 7th generation of consoles on a boat

[zenith remnant]

I just can never get into manga or anime. The closest I got to actually getting into one was Demon Slayer, and I binged the first few episodes, went to bed, and never touched it again.

[lament shoal]

I already know what happens during the eclipse. No way I could ever bring myself to read or watch that lol

[prime seal]

you already read the most disgustingly horrible part?

||kind of||

[lament shoal]

I didn't read it

[prime seal]

oh

[lament shoal]

I just know what happens

[prime seal]

tbf if its not for you its not for you

[lament shoal]

I've never read the manga nor watched the anime

[prime seal]

miura laments the hyper disgusting stuff and said he wouldnt have put it in had he had the chance to go back in time

[dapper gyro]

Berserk is not for everyone, and it is ok.

[lament shoal]

Yeah, but I know the general synopsis and I can't deny it is a really good story. Its just a bit too dark for my taste ig

[prime seal]

yeah its a bit like knowing that sephiroth kills aerith in ff7

[summer rock]

very reasonable
if you're not in the right headspace it can be a tough read for sure

[rose thorn]

I really like the classic golden arc, it’s one of my top 10 shows. It touches a bit on SA and stuff but it’s not too bad until the very very end of the arc unlike later in the series. Griffith and Guts are some of the best written characters in media I’ve ever seen and it’s genuinely really emotional.

I think it’s onscreen like, twice?

It’s been a Minute

[prime seal]

can i ask you something if its one of your favourite shows why dont you keep reading from there?

[opaque coyote]

Tbf yeah Berserk can get too gross even for itself

Horse

Moment

[prime seal]

Horse

[opaque coyote]

[dapper gyro]

Then the elf moment

[prime seal]

elf

[rose thorn]

Because my best friend thinks it falls off really bad and we feel like it’s a good stopping point

[prime seal]

yeah enough of this lmfao

[prime seal]

? the eclipse is where berserk begins though

a good stopping moment is when Griffith starts act 1 of his dream?

[opaque coyote]

Guts backstory is essentially the prologue

[prime seal]

exactly the story starts after the prologue, golden age is a long flashback

[rose thorn]

Yeah lmao

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf it's so good that the prologue could legitimately be a short series

[prime seal]

nah hard disagree

[rose thorn]

I’ve looked further ahead and it doesn’t seem like it’s for me

[dapper gyro]

So you talk about how people view art differently, but you let someone else dictate the continuation good or bad?

[opaque coyote]

In fact it already is

[rose thorn]

^

[prime seal]

the eclipse would be a completely horrible ending

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact, 4kids Zoro is voiced by Guts from the 90s show.

[rose thorn]

My best friend has watched it and wasn’t a fan lmao

Also it’s my best friend

[prime seal]

wait so they're not even a fan?

bruh

[opaque coyote]

If he's talking about 2016 berserk

Then he's uh

No wonder he didn't like it

[rose thorn]

Liked the golden arc lol

[dapper gyro]

Well, I disagree with my friends all the time, that's why we are friends.

[prime seal]

yeah thats complete dogshit though

[rose thorn]

They read some of the manga and didn’t really enjoy it so eh

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but gonna be honest if that was my first impression

I wouldn't be interested either

[opaque coyote]

...

[prime seal]

you'd go online and realise that you shouldnt be fucking watching that

[opaque coyote]

I think you should give it a chance past the golden arc

[rose thorn]

Additionally, me and my best friend had the same takeaways and views of guts and Griffith lmao

[dapper gyro]

The 2016 show has about as many frames as the comic.

[lament shoal]

Yeah I can see why a lot of people really like it. Sucks about what happened to the author too.

[prime seal]

okay now i get it

[lament shoal]

Speaking of, is it being continued in his stead?

[prime seal]

echo chamber moment

[rose thorn]

Shut up

[prime seal]

by his team

they're cooking

the art is fantastic

[lament shoal]

Thats good to hear

[prime seal]

not miura level because that's just

[lament shoal]

Would've been a shame if there was no one to keep it going

[prime seal]

you cant really do that its his creation

[dapper gyro]

They don't have the brutalist imagination, but that's fine.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Miura goes another level in terms of detail art wise

But at the same time I genuinely wonder how long it takes him to make some of the panels that we see

[prime seal]

when you have a team behind you that is mostly employed and trained by you i guess thats what happens

[rose thorn]

But Yee player, if you are feeling up for it golden age is definitely worth a watch, a lot of people I know dropped it after that

It’s a good, fulfilling story

[prime seal]

Golgo 13 is still going strong after 50 years despite takao saito's death

[prime seal]

90% of people continued after watching it though

[rose thorn]

Don’t feel pressured to watch beyond it since especially it changes a lot lol

[opaque coyote]

Like genuinely imagine how long it would take to ink in all that shit

It would take hours for me to even trace this

[lament shoal]

Looks like some 40k shit lol

[dapper gyro]

Peak autism?

[lament shoal]

A warp rift devouring a feudal world

[prime seal]

detail wise i can only think of murata as a contender

[opaque coyote]

I think 40k's art is partially inspired by Berserk

Also Dark Souls is about as inspired by Berserk as 40k is with Dune

[rose thorn]

It looks kinda like nid tendrils

[dapper gyro]

Fromsoft loves Berserk.

[opaque coyote]

AKA just barely above plagiarism in some areas

[prime seal]

might not be a contender i take it back

Murata is HIM

[lament shoal]

I've heard Dark Souls lore is really cool

Never played any of the games tho

[rose thorn]

Same lol

I’ve been holding back since I got like 90 rpg games to play first

[dapper gyro]

Dark souls lore are fragments that you need to put together.

[opaque coyote]

It has the same appeal as FNAF lore

Only not as ass to find out wtf is happening

It kinda gives the feeling of being an archaeologist and finding the ruins of a civilization

[dapper gyro]

It doesn't tell you anything directly.

[prime seal]

or just watch a 24 hour youtube video

[opaque coyote]

It does but only the basics

[rose thorn]

Secret chica party 2016

[lament shoal]

Wanted to try elden ring but I haven't been able to afford games that are at full retail price ($60 - $70) for a while now unfortunately

[opaque coyote]

"YOU SHOULD SET YOURSELF ON FIRE NOW!"

[rose thorn]

Same lmao

I don’t even buy 20 dollar games anymore

[dapper gyro]

🏴‍☠️

[opaque coyote]

The dark souls series goes on sale a lot.

I suggest that anybody who likes video games plays any dark souls game at least once

[prime seal]

dark souls 2

[opaque coyote]

Even if you end up not liking it, it's still good to try out

[rose thorn]

Have you ever played any other… souls like? Is that the word?

[prime seal]

playing dark souls 2 requires playing atleast 1

[lament shoal]

I've been really into Hollow Knight lately

[dapper gyro]

Souls 2 is the most forgiving.

[lament shoal]

Its fun

[dapper gyro]

It is a good start.