40k-lore-chat

[fickle marlin]

Eh, I wouldn't say no to more faces that don't look like hammered shit

[rose thorn]

I tried to check your profile but I can’t see shit because some skibiti toilet stuff blocked my screen for like 30 seconds

[raven stone]

Don’t forget professional Vet + Gangers too.

[high shale]

I like that about Darktide too, how your character are not chiseled demigods and seem flawed, like you know... they've lived.

I would like some more hair style options tho...

[wintry cloud]

Are you trying to dox me mag?

[languid meadow]

we already have that interaction anyway

[nocturne crest]

JARED LETO SQUAD LETS GO

[languid meadow]

just play LC

[prime seal]

thats part of the fantasy but thing is, you'll still be sent to missions that prove youre expendable

[rose thorn]

[wintry cloud]

The skeleton is actually killing me lmao

[rose thorn]

Also considering your hive scum can be jarico I doubt the anti power fantasy pays much in mind

[rose thorn]

Thanks it’s from.a PvZ modding server

[dapper gyro]

Not enough abs.

[prime seal]

pvz modding is either plants vs victims or victims vs plants

[queen laurel]

the DT usual

[wintry cloud]

Is it getting review bombed or was it always mixed

[rose thorn]

THE GAME IS GOOD OMG

[queen laurel]

don't like something down vote the game

[languid meadow]

I do wonder what weapons they'll share with the rest of us since if it's like arbites their exclusive weapons are all in the store page

[prime seal]

ive never seen a mod that wasnt either you getting fucked in the ass or you fucking the zombies in the ass

[queen laurel]

Former

[wintry cloud]

Lmaoo

[arctic talon]

Victims vs Victims is the funniest version

[queen laurel]

dT fans are pissy

[rose thorn]

A boring decision > a bad decision

[surreal nest]

I genuinely hate video gamers bro

[languid meadow]

I get not liking the class fuck I don't but review bombing is bad for shit like this

[serene monolith]

am-----

[surreal nest]

What a truly pathetic group of people

[wintry cloud]

Imagine getting downvoted for adding more content to the game

[rose thorn]

Fr

[void flare]

Would the hive scum be allowed on the Morningstar?

[queen laurel]

I get not liking the type of character a hive scum is but getting mad

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[raven stone]

Yea FatShark is not Activision or Bethesda, people need to get a grip.

[queen laurel]

That it's not what you wanted even though there's not indication of what you wanted getting added on the game is ******* funny

[wintry cloud]

Yes, or they wouldn’t be playable

[surreal nest]

How unemployed do you have to be to take time to review bomb over not getting midmech

[limpid granite]

probably all bladed weapons except class exclusive ones

[queen laurel]

yeah considering our situation they are willing to accept any type of body that they're willing to fight

[celest cedar]

I mean this whole trailer fiasco is just FS learning you shouldnt tell people youre releasing a class trailer like a month in advance

[dapper gyro]

Not all gangers are necessary outlaws.

[rose thorn]

… what’s wrong with Bethesda????

[languid meadow]

D claw gets another class to be shit on

[raven stone]

Basement dwelling incel levels, considering how some whine about it being a woman Ganger…

[dapper gyro]

Or they are, but not caught to become a rejected yet.

[fickle marlin]

I would say the class not being that great or ideal for a player is more of a tipping point to some instead of the actual issue. The game feels off to me, like there's something not working right. Feels in a similar spot as say Helldivers if that makes sense

[raven stone]

Fallout 76, all that needs to be said :p

[languid meadow]

pronounce

[arctic talon]

Likely after they’re recruited

[limpid granite]

hive ganger suddenly gets plasma rifle on acount of being a powercreeping vet

[rose thorn]

Fallout 76 is good

[wintry scarab]

I mean i guess it makes sense when it comes to escapism in videogames and all that. But imo, you dont come to play something like darktide to be the hero of the story lol. You come to darktide to get a glimpse into a super unique world, especially the niche parts that are not represented as much overall.

[rose thorn]

It’s like the least scummy live service MMO on the market

[tame cape]

Whats wrong with bethesda🥺

[raven stone]

Yea, though some people really have difficulty abandoning the hero complex.

[dapper gyro]

Ganger could be recruited to become space marines or imperial assassins... So yes.

[limpid granite]

i like how me wanting good cosmetics somehow turned into a word salad of main protagonist syndrome

https://tenor.com/view/movie-gif-4713511

[dapper gyro]

Anyhow, Dual autopistol is coming.

[raven stone]

…wait are we talking about the same Bethesda that released the buggiest launch of Fallout 76 here? The game that could not be uninstalled without bricking your computer and all that?

[wintry cloud]

Lots of salt today

[celest dome]

Yup

[fickle marlin]

I was gonna say, I just want faces that don't look like shit, "but thats some main character syndrome" is not the response I'd expect outta that

[void flare]

Fair enough. Just Figured the ship would have been “military” only if yaknow what I mean

[celest dome]

Not surprised tbh

[rose thorn]

[daring creek]

Beating the fuck out of my keyboard rn

[raven stone]

Welcome to Lore chat, the sane general chat.

[rose thorn]

I just don’t like the name

[daring creek]

Sending very strongly worded emails to fatshark

[dapper gyro]

They can be recruited like everyone else.

[languid meadow]

I just don't think the class is too interesting

[queen laurel]

They are still human if they are on the right place on the right time they can be recruited into more actual legit corporations

[languid meadow]

we should skin gen chatters for entertainment

[wintry cloud]

Let’s join in on the reviewbomb!!!!!!!!!!
/s

[prime seal]

haha you're an alcoholic

[rose thorn]

Yeah, ever since the settlers update thr game has been really good

[queen laurel]

i will feed you to pestigors

[raven stone]

Ship is under control of a Rogue Trader, so more akin to a PMC ship contracted to work for Inquisition…but yes Brahms will be whining for sure about the Scum on board.

[dapper gyro]

Zola is a former hive scum.

In case you miss the lore of the game.

[raven stone]

…huh. Well I never thought I would see them claw it backup.

[storm jungle]

the Inquisition itself works on the logic of a Dungeons and Dragons RPG party setup, aka basically anyone can be a part of it to allow players playing it the freedom to choose etc, its a carry-over from the Inquisition/Dark Heresy RPG series, its why Inquisition teams are all very diverse from each other.

[languid meadow]

so is LC they'll be allowed on the ship but they'll be gross about it

[daring creek]

Vomits all over your face like an alcoholic would

[fickle marlin]

I mean many Vets play into Former hive scum, and its a background you can choose. so it is a bit borin to have that as a class itself. but it will be nice to see a Loose Cannon vet bicker with a proper Ganger over "whos still true to their roots" or some shite

[wintry cloud]

Are you guys role playing right now?

[celest dome]

Also the Kill Team for the Inquisitorial warband has a Scum in it

[prime seal]

you read too much chainsaw man

[languid meadow]

they're gonna be small ogryns in terms of filth really so at least we'll have that to have interactions about it will be funny

[daring creek]

Does your mom

[storm jungle]

Theres a difference between ex-ganger and one that is basically been embedded into the life in Tertium forever.

[wintry cloud]

Yeah, on thursdays

[languid meadow]

oh god I forgot they make the deluxe preview image piss yellow

[rose thorn]

Yee this is exactly how I feel

[wintry scarab]

I cant really say this without sounding like an egomaniac lol but it really does feel like most people have the "main character complex" thing. Some of the stuff that i see people do in day-to-day life just boggles the mind.

[raven stone]

Blame TikTok

[wintry cloud]

We want the darktide cast to look like the marvel rivals roster

[fickle marlin]

it will be nice to see a Loose Cannon vet bicker with a proper Ganger over "whos still true to their roots" or some shite
Said that for a reason, lol

[languid meadow]

today has revealed to me that this server operates on this

I love how this image makes no sense

[rose thorn]

LMAOOOOOOOO

[languid meadow]

now this is funny

[fickle marlin]

not gonna lie, people who complain a lot about Main Character complex are usually people stuck in that as well and annoyed others have significance over them

[rose thorn]

I really did think skitarii and ratling were on the table

[languid meadow]

but still people are being weirdly hostile and childish on both sides here aka darktide fans deserve nothing

[wintry cloud]

One thing the warhammer community does great is gaslighting itself.

And then getting mad when things don’t match the delusion.

[celest cedar]

FS wont ever say in advance theyre releasing a new class trailer ever again

[queen laurel]

genuinely this ye like i'm not the biggest type the sign of this trope of scum in a city type character but I just go ehh and move on I get not liking something totally but being this hostile and childish about it?

[languid meadow]

I mean they shouldn't look at what releasing a roadmap did

[arctic talon]

Look my idea it was a tech priest was entirely spawned by my own delusions and I expected it not to happen okay

Smh

[void flare]

Makes sense. Don’t know too much about rogue trader kind of lore. I like muh imperial guard lol

[queen laurel]

that's just weird

[wintry scarab]

The thing that i dont get is that, at least to me, the story of dartkide is literally only pointing to ganger or something else super obscure that i dont know of. Arbites made sense. Admech, imo, would take a lot more setup to introduce properly. And that "setup" we have not had.

[languid meadow]

Yeah the hate is getting weird, like I don't care for the class and I dislike it, am I going to review bomb the game? no im not. Do I think people who were pro ganger being dicks about are cool? no idk why people are being so hostile over it

imo fatshark shouldn't have said anything when it comes to a new class

should've just dropped it like arbites

[raven stone]

Maybe I have a low bar, but the whole Mobian Steel plot line felt Ad Mech enough for me.

That and the missions where you steal a train of Archeotech

[languid meadow]

I mean that and the billion of admech related stuff we still have in the files

[wintry scarab]

I mean, true to be fair. I forgot about that. That could easily been a way for admech to get involved.

[prime seal]

it does the regular goomba is a centrist

[limpid granite]

we had no hive ganger frames

[prime seal]

he doesnt believe in anything

[limpid granite]

we have 3 mechanicus ones

[languid meadow]

like you can't say "admech was never teased" then go "the stims teased gangers" in that logic the entire moebian steel arc teases admech

[dapper gyro]

The place produces tanks, the Admech present is lacking is somewhat questionable, but not that far fetched.

[celest dome]

People are jumping to any occasion to review bomb, but at the same time a lot of the outside community really was 100% thinking it would be Admech, so they see it not being it as a bait and switch of sort

[dapper gyro]

Admech usually run away quickly if a world is not important for them.

[storm jungle]

If it helps at least at this point a techpriest class is basically confirmed after this

[celest dome]

1 used for the community thingy, and the other for testers...

[languid meadow]

I still think at most we'll get one more class

[celest dome]

I'm seeing 8 at max unless they add new slots.

[dapper gyro]

Stop gaslighting people, Dilara.

[limpid granite]

3 classes are in the pipeline

thats arbites and hive scum done

[languid meadow]

the games balancing is already shit with the 5 we have

[celest dome]

Why 3 ?

[limpid granite]

i believe that was said

but i could be mistaken

[storm jungle]

it wasnt

[celest dome]

Wouldn't that have been said before Ganger anyway ?

Making it one of the 3 ?

[celest cedar]

once again posting peak...

[dapper gyro]

Because you based it on the 8 character slots?

[storm jungle]

is it kinda weird that these look better than most faces in teh game

it feels like cyberpunk quality, might be the super HD texture of the models for te promo image

[languid meadow]

at least tattoos will be visible on the characters without GW having a fit

[limpid granite]

phantom liberty

[dapper gyro]

New face DLC?

[vagrant fox]

Dilara you must never remove general chat that shithole can be funny

[celest cedar]

gotta be the makeup

[storm jungle]

deffo might be it

[arctic talon]

Why do they look so pretty

[storm jungle]

I wont alas 😔

[arctic talon]

That feels cursed

[storm jungle]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[arctic talon]

They do not look like a Darktide character

[storm jungle]

^

[vagrant fox]

more disfiguring mutilations to my gangers please

[celest cedar]

but what if I wanna be a pretty patootie

[arctic talon]

No it’s fine

It’s just the quality of the faces

Looks too high

[queen laurel]

People complaining about their looks when all of the prettiness points went to their face

[dapper gyro]

To be fair, their skin is so smooth looking, too.

[celest cedar]

than serve the Emperor as a soldier

based 🗣️

[dapper gyro]

No scar cosmetic, no battle damage.

[celest cedar]

nooo not the random npc thats overtly pretty

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

bro people are so down bad for her

(i am too)

[languid meadow]

that's a backstory we already have

for vet

iirc

[opaque coyote]

Oh it's hive scum

Cool

[celest cedar]

yea I had to ask a friend

[wintry cloud]

So ganger and scum are like different? Im guessing the scum like will never join to be a soldier or something?

[celest cedar]

who is this baddie from cyberpunk I keep seeing

[dapper gyro]

Also, they look young, maybe because gangers usually die young.

[queen laurel]

Gangs are just organised hive scum

[celest cedar]

ah

[daring creek]

I think the new class will be fun

[wintry cloud]

Gotcha, i had assumed that the scum class (as a concept) would never become an imperium soldier, but i guess it’s always a possibility.

[daring creek]

I think it fits the rejects we have

Though

Arbitrator and gang member being in the same squad will be a very interesting conversation

[dapper gyro]

Hardened ganger is no different than an IGs Veteran.

[sacred ginkgo]

I can see people being mad about the trailer it wasn't nearly as good as the arbites one

[vagrant fox]

people shocked when an inquisitorial warband that presses prisoners into combat will also use hive gangoons

[raven stone]

Well now you can have a team of 4 normal humans in different classes lol

[daring creek]

The trailer was boring tbf

Delayed another week just for a 62 second ad

But hey. We get to be Gordon Freeman

[sacred ginkgo]

Worth it for fuel to the dumpster fire right now

[dapper gyro]

Hey, we have cropped top lady.

[celest cedar]

does it even look like the inq presses gangers

it look like the gangers just swing by for rescue

[dapper gyro]

People asked for more exposed female skin cosmetic for a long time.

[vagrant fox]

Wouldn't surprise me if swagger has connections to employ them

[raven stone]

Inquisition can recruit anything deemed necessary for the mission. Including Gangers.

[dapper gyro]

(Still disappointed with the lack of abs)

[dapper gyro]

Including Xenos*

[daring creek]

Xenos feels crazy still

[raven stone]

For radicals, yes, Xenos…and for the REALLY radical ones, even demons.

Lorewise ofc

Darktide, we will not get that I think

[storm jungle]

THERES NO XENOS

[dapper gyro]

There are stormtrooper level gangers. Though those get recruited fast, willingly or not.

[storm jungle]

THERES NO TECHPRIEST

THERES NO MOEBIAN STEEL

AND THERES NO QUEEN OF ENGLAND

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-titan-incredibles-titan-incredibles-meme-the-incredibles-meme-gif-24953428

[dapper gyro]

But there is you, Dil.

[storm jungle]

unfortunately

[vagrant fox]

This has been a fun hour and a half, I genuinely want to know how many people have been banned

[storm jungle]

😔

[daring creek]

Hey Dilara

[storm jungle]

A lot.

Mostly from bigotry

LOL

[valid needle]

But there is, Ultra white monster.

[daring creek]

What would you bring me for my birthday party

[hallow plover]

Today's chaos and salt is sweet

[storm jungle]

A bomb.......

[vagrant fox]

Seeing people rant about radical feminism because of a woman in a trailer was genuinely hilarious, I've done a complete 180 on general chat the moderators need to suffer for my entertainment

[celest cedar]

ay some other guy outed himself as a pronoun hater in zeal (didnt say anything bannable afaik)

[sacred ginkgo]

Peak 40k server moment

[daring creek]

You are evil at every opportunity why :(

[celest cedar]

bro these people get scared over a she/her..

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

[wintry cloud]

Dudes really are afraid of women

Strange world

[dapper gyro]

They like Futa then?

[vagrant fox]

This guy was my favourite, it's going right into my collection

[queen laurel]

Dude these guys are literally criminals in a hive city is being a criminal gender locked?

[daring creek]

I mean I think its valid to be upset women are in 40k when its very distinctly a BL

[wintry cloud]

Whyd he get two upvotes

[vagrant fox]

general chat reasons idk

[daring creek]

What is with these cocksuckers and complaining about pronouns

[wintry cloud]

Idk

[remote wadi]

I'm fine with woman in 40k as long as they aren't written as basic stereotypes

[wintry cloud]

Pronouns are literally just language

[vagrant fox]

I'm gonna follow christs teachings by being the most bigoted person alive

[daring creek]

Me when English language

[valid needle]

Bro spelt Lord Emperor Christ wrong frfr

[daring creek]

He and she is literally in genesis

[sacred ginkgo]

You see the funny part is they also have a pronoun in their bio

[daring creek]

Grow tf up

[hallow plover]

Maybe he was an old testament dude 👀

[celest cedar]

uuh BL?

[daring creek]

Boys love

It means boys love you faker

[celest cedar]

a wha

[vagrant fox]

GW is dedicated to boys love

[languid meadow]

blue hair

[outer wave]

LMAO

[languid meadow]

pronjoucne

[daring creek]

Its over.

[celest cedar]

missus Im not a gooner like you..

[wintry cloud]

This is the love and acceptance christ taught us about

[daring creek]

Yes you are

[celest cedar]

I saw the banning live

was gonna say something

[wintry cloud]

I really enjoy that she doesn’t even deny it

[valid needle]

“I am fine with woman in 40K as long as they don’t have jobs, are only background characters and only speak when spoken to” - some guy in DT gen chat.

[remote wadi]

I don't wanna ruin Christianity for y'all but the bible does have some eye for eye type shit

[vagrant fox]

I'm not baptised thogg don't care

[wintry cloud]

Dog you’re not gonna ruin christianity for us

[remote wadi]

Distortion of words

[wintry cloud]

We see christians everyday

[raven stone]

No I think they are quoting someone else. Or at least it looks like that.

[outer wave]

People are awful with interpreting the Bible and make it suddenly that the enemies of Christ are non believers and homosexuals

[limpid granite]

didnt you know that atheists know more about theology than people who have followed religion for their entire lives

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

[arctic talon]

Old Testament is full of eye for an eye type shit Tbf

Or like

[remote wadi]

I was an atheist for 2 years cause I read the bible

[arctic talon]

Eye for a head

[remote wadi]

Unironically

[celest cedar]

Im just an agnostic fella these days

[arctic talon]

But I’m not the most familiar with Christian theology

I’m not a Christian

[storm jungle]

isnt the old testament like

[vagrant fox]

you could be

[storm jungle]

extremely violent

lmao

[wintry cloud]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Love thy neighbor?

more like uhhhh

bomb thy neighbor

gottem

[vagrant fox]

yeah old testament stuff, you know, jewery

[celest cedar]

when was old testament written

pre jesus?

[arctic talon]

God sent down a bear to maul a bunch of kids for laughing at a bald man

I’m paraphrasing a bit

But Old Testament god is uh

Pretty brutal

[remote wadi]

Yep

[valid needle]

I am an atheist because I know that IF there is a god, he either 1. Does not care about us or 2. Is evil and only wishes pain and suffering upon us.

[remote wadi]

But even the new testament has some wild stories tho

[hallow plover]

The best thing about christianity is the ||easter time movies||

[dapper gyro]

Égoïste

[remote wadi]

I believe in god I just believe we egocentrical if we think we are his special children

[wintry cloud]

Same, i think gods real.

[remote wadi]

He is all powerful

The universe has billions of planets

We are barely even entertaining

[daring creek]

If god was all powerful he'd make my furry waifu real but no he hasn't

[dapper gyro]

Even in the Bible, it says that those who use God for their own gain should be punished. But guess what...

All of those people for me are fake believers.

[daring creek]

Everyday I wake up without a well endowed wolf girl next to me is a day my faith runs further into the negative

[remote wadi]

The church literally commits a deadly sin by existing

[celest cedar]

I mean if any wish can be granted we're kinda fucked already 💀

[valid needle]

If god was all powerful and all knowing and all good, he would not allow atrocities to happen. This brings to question if he is all powerful and all knowing, he can’t be all good.

[remote wadi]

Having idols aka saints is a deadly sin

[dapper gyro]

Your god made the right decision.

[wintry cloud]

Me when mega church pastors start flying on stage

[wintry cloud]

Me when the question of evil debate

[remote wadi]

Actually I don't think he is evil

I think he is neutral

Hell or heaven comes from Ur perspective not gods

God couldn't careless about morality

[daring creek]

Imma give my two cents

God is just a force. Not a person.

[dapper gyro]

By the way, @daring creek , why do you call it a "he"? Your god has gender?

[remote wadi]

Muslim idea of hell is quite literally a space without any stimulation

Aka you make Ur own hell

It's all in Ur mind

[daring creek]

My god is what I want her to be and right now shes a clown

[remote wadi]

Translation

[dapper gyro]

Thinking of god as a "man" itself is a failure to follow their own teaching.

Funny enough, the primordial being in almost all mythologies is Chaos.

[daring creek]

Blah blah blah god is a force akin to the ocean it doesn't give 2 fucks about who you are as a person blah blah it has no malice or benevolence blah it only has cause and effects

[dapper gyro]

Which is the creation itself.

I always call it an "it".

[celest cedar]

theology as a thing to study for a pasttime is really interesting

[dapper gyro]

I do it because I hate people using religion for their doings.

[wintry cloud]

Theology is really cool, alot of games media—well almost everything has some basis on it.

[daring creek]

Even for positive things?

[opaque coyote]

I think the question is

Why would God care about humanity logically?

[dapper gyro]

Nope, but it is good to have conversations with good religious people.

[opaque coyote]

Like think about how fucking miniscule we are

How much we don't know

Why would he care?

Or she, they, or it

[dark moon]

I’ve been reading through some of Friedrich Neitzche’s works recently. It’s a bit surreal reading about how religion—according to Neitzche—is nothing more than a system of control through the subject of “morality”.

[daring creek]

I think I'm going back to sleep

[dapper gyro]

I know people from different cultures practice their teaching instead of abusing it. They are always good to talk to.

[opaque coyote]

Then again, the amount we don't know also makes it so that God could care but for some reason still allows suffering

Either way uhh

[dark moon]

I used to be religious, not sure if I really am anymore based on the last decade or so.

[opaque coyote]

I don't think it matters that much

Whether heaven exists or not, we're still on this Earth and we shouldn't kill each other for a minor disagreement

Instead we should kill the aliens

Clearly

IT ALL GOES BACK TO XENOPHOBIA

[dark moon]

One of the interesting bits of Neitzche’s works was that he talks about how our morals and values are dictated to us, and are essentially fabricated by those in power.

“Master morality” vs “Slave morality” I think the concept was called.

[opaque coyote]

WE BLEED RED, BUT THOSE GLEEP GLORP FICKS BLEED COBALT

[dapper gyro]

But...... Aren't extraterrestrials also its creation?

[celest cedar]

pretty much every western rpg

[wintry cloud]

Tru

[dapper gyro]

Damn, where did you get a picture of me?

[celest cedar]

hell dragon age inquisition was literally about religion and fantasy catholicism theology

[opaque coyote]

Nieztche's philosophy is interesting

He is also kinda fucking crazy but tbf I think that's a prerequisite to become a philosopher

[dark moon]

Oh yeah, he lost his marbles later in his life. But it’s just so fascinating to read, barring his misogynistic takes sometimes.

[opaque coyote]

Nier Automata summarizes it best

"It seems this Nieztsche is quite the profound thinker. Or perhaps he skipped past profound and went straight to crazy instead."

• Pascal (the robot)

[opaque coyote]

Syphilis moment

That STD is honestly one of the more terrifying ones

Like unironically

At least HIV just weakens your immune system

Syphilis just makes you go insane

[remote wadi]

Actually that's a English translation error

Cause the word for man and the word for god are similar

And it's man as mankind

Not as gender

[opaque coyote]

"I met God and she was a black woman"

[remote wadi]

Then it wasn't god

God canonically formless

And never speaks to a mortal directly

He always sends an angel

[opaque coyote]

I like to imagine that it's because he's lazy

[remote wadi]

And this goes for all monotheism

[dapper gyro]

Angel is "the messenger".

[opaque coyote]

It's just funnier that way

[celest cedar]

god is a woman ariana grande

[remote wadi]

Not all angels are messengers

There's an hierarchy

[dapper gyro]

Archangel and there is another one I forget.

[remote wadi]

Seraphines

[dapper gyro]

3 main levels of angels

[opaque coyote]

I love how angels say "Do not be afraid" because some of the hierarchy forms look fucking terrifying

[dapper gyro]

There are some others.

[remote wadi]

They don't have forms to sign

God knows if they fuck up directly

[opaque coyote]

So I can imagine that this happened to at least one prophet

"Bro stop screaming"

"AAAAA-"

"I'm an angel here to give you a message from God."

[remote wadi]

In politheism gods tend to have more representation

[opaque coyote]

"AAAAAAAAA-"

[remote wadi]

And btw eldritch gods count as politheism

[opaque coyote]

"please just stop screaming"

"AAAAAAAAAAAA-"

[remote wadi]

Eventho only one of them is the primordial chaos

[opaque coyote]

And how the universe is basically a dream of that primordial Chaos

Azathoth being the blind idiot honk mimimi'd humanity

[dapper gyro]

No, it goes for the god from the old old testament, which spawned Christian, Judaism, Muslim and a few others.

[dark moon]

Two quotes of his have stuck in my brain pan for a while.

“Those who fight monsters should ensure that they themselves do not become monsters. For when you stare into the abyss, it stares back into you.”

The other one went something like: “They who experience something terrible may begin to wonder if they themselves are not something terrible.”

[opaque coyote]

[remote wadi]

Also the reason why humans believe god cares is egocentrism

Which is common in humans of all generations

[dapper gyro]

There are other monotheisms but not formed with that family.

[remote wadi]

The Jews invented monotheism

Before them there were patheons of gods

And the best part is some patheons were based on people that did live

[opaque coyote]

Most definitely

Although tbf, we ultimately don't understand God, maybe he actually does care and we just don't know.

Who knows, maybe the universe is basically his ant farm

[celest dome]

Afaik Judaism wasn't the 1st case of monotheism

[remote wadi]

Actually I can logically prove god doesn't care using the god definitions

[opaque coyote]

Or maybe we're his piss drawer

[remote wadi]

Humans are made at the image of god

[opaque coyote]

Who is formless

[remote wadi]

We don't see insects as special

[celest dome]

Depend on the belief

[dapper gyro]

Depending on where. Some first nations have a single all-being, then they have the spirit of elements, while being divine, are not gods.

[remote wadi]

We believe even if there's aliens we are more special than them

God wouldn't believe this

[dapper gyro]

In some mythologies, the minor divines are like angels.

[remote wadi]

Most demons are named after politheistic gods

That was their way to kill old religion

[winged jacinth]

Actually i did ask god and aliens suck

[dapper gyro]

In a way, with their immeasurable power, you can say that Archangels are god equivalent to other cultures.

[remote wadi]

Lucifer is prolly the only known name that was originally biblical

[opaque coyote]

Also I find it funny that some cases of syncretism of Christianity are like

Viking: "Well this God guy sounds cool, I'm putting him in with the other Gods I believe in."

Priest: "That is NOT HOW THAT WOR-"

[remote wadi]

If you see an archangel as a god acording to the bible he is either a demon or you committing a sin

Cause people tend to forget demons are just angels who don't follow god

[dapper gyro]

I'm taking about equivalent.

[remote wadi]

They don't have different powers or any extra bs

Not even horned figures

[dapper gyro]

Like war gods in Hinduism or eastern cultures. They are just alike in terms of worshipping, be it called god or not.

[remote wadi]

Actually vikings didn't care about Christianity they thought Christians were disgusting

Cause they don't shower

And we call them the barbarians

[dapper gyro]

No war god is ever the top of the pantheon.

[urban spire]

the christian concept of a god isn't really universal

[vital ginkgo]

Are there any current chapter masters as powerful or more powerful than sigismund?

[remote wadi]

That stands from humans themselves

[winged jacinth]

Odin?

[urban spire]

there were plenty of christian vikings

[remote wadi]

All gods were made by humans

And no matter the culture we always believe the same principle

[dapper gyro]

Odin makes wars, but himself is wisdom.

[remote wadi]

Fertility is important and murder is bad

[urban spire]

also viking isn't a culture group it's an activity

[remote wadi]

What do you call the Nordic barbarians then

[urban spire]

their nationality?

[winged jacinth]

When you're talking about invading England may as well just say Danes lol

[remote wadi]

They didn't had one

Cause that land is now 4 different countries

[urban spire]

yeah i live in one of them

for example we had a norwegian identity before norway was united

[remote wadi]

War gods were not on the top of the gods cause as human we see war as a necessary evil not the endgoal

[urban spire]

norway literally means the road north, the north way

[remote wadi]

The main god represents the peak end goal of morality

[winged jacinth]

Clearly what we should be calling them is vikers

Those who vike

[remote wadi]

Noice

[winged jacinth]

Im out viking im a viker

[vagrant fox]

Huitzilopochtli was pretty much on top as far as the Aztecs were concerned, but that's the Aztecs

[urban spire]

and some vikings from the 800s identified themselves as being from norway

[remote wadi]

Honestly if vikings didn't take drugs and fear zombies they would be great conquerers

[dapper gyro]

The word "god" in other cultures is given to those with divine power. If you use that definition, Angels are gods. But if the culture dictates that there can only be "the god", then whatever you call the lesser divines.

[urban spire]

although by their reckoning norway was only the east coast of the scandinavian peninsula, so a bit smaller than it is today

[remote wadi]

But the peak of they could have ruled the world but didn't was china

They had guns before guns

They had fireworks when we had bows and spears

[urban spire]

most people in the 800s identified everyone from the scandinavian peninsula as a dane, even if that wasn't accurate

[remote wadi]

The reality is all humans have a perception of god's more based on superiority than godhood itself

Aka if we saw a smarter alien we would call it god

[dapper gyro]

Pretty much

[urban spire]

not all human cultures have had gods, historically

[remote wadi]

I mean workshipping the sun counts

[urban spire]

often christian cultures just look for the biggest honcho in the mythology and slap the god label on that

[dapper gyro]

Divinity is just another word for "god".

[remote wadi]

We always had a belief in something superior

[urban spire]

divinity is also a christian concept

[remote wadi]

The religion of mankind is recent

[dapper gyro]

And in human history, it is extremely difficult to find one without a divinity figure.

[remote wadi]

You know believing humans can achieve godlike things without a god is a recent worldview

[dapper gyro]

Greek gods existed way before Christianity.

[remote wadi]

The only thing that distinguishes Christianity is they don't give human flaws to their god

[urban spire]

yeah and they're not divine the way the christian god is

[winged jacinth]

Ancestor worship cultures? Taoism?

[remote wadi]

Yes even sun workshippers believed the sun had feelings

[wintry scarab]

I have come to hate on the ganger! I think the trailer is worse than the arbites one. There i said it.

[remote wadi]

And I find that absolutely interesting

[storm jungle]

Its 100% very mid

[urban spire]

i agree

[dapper gyro]

Even them, yes. I'm from an ancestor worshipping society.

[remote wadi]

I think the issue isn't ganger being made

[arctic talon]

Apparently some stuff got cut from it for regulatory reasons

(Drugs)

[remote wadi]

The issue they raised the standard high before with arbiter

[urban spire]

ganger looks like borderlands shit

but with less personality

[wintry scarab]

OMG! Dilara the num1 fatshak shill saying its mid!? (i joke) I was not expecting that lol

[urban spire]

dilara has correct opinions sometimes

[winged jacinth]

Definitely not taoism, and if ancestor worship counts you're basically just extending to any system where a supernatural entity has a personality

[remote wadi]

Also there's always a religion that wins

Currently it's called money

[dapper gyro]

Scientology?

Worship money

[remote wadi]

No actually money

People would do all types of crazy things if you pay enough

[winged jacinth]

Scientology has some gnosticism going on where god is evil and has trapped us except this time hes an alien

[humble shoal]

Ill have to wait to get home to see the mid trailer

[remote wadi]

Aka they would change their morality and customs for money

Making money a religion effectively

[winged jacinth]

Wish i was a fuckin psychic starfish fuck you xenu

[humble shoal]

Did you know LRon Hubbard was a black man

[winged jacinth]

Yeah his real name was L Ron Hoyabembe!

[remote wadi]

Honestly I respect Scientology cause they are batshit insane but they accept it

They embrace it

[humble shoal]

When do we want xenu?

[remote wadi]

Christians just fake it till they make it

[winged jacinth]

10 trillion years!

There is no hell!

[humble shoal]

Ehh, ready the acts of the apostles

[outer wave]

I think it could've been better if they had some gameplay or made the animation just a bit longer

[urban spire]

scientology is a really nasty and abusive cult, you couldn't pay me to respect them

[humble shoal]

Where peter gets in a wizard duel

With simon

[remote wadi]

They stopped sinning after they met jesus

[humble shoal]

Nah there is apocrypha

[remote wadi]

The whole point of forgiveness is you forgive urself and change

[humble shoal]

Where peter gets into a wizard duel

[remote wadi]

Not you keep doing and apologizing

[humble shoal]

In the colloseum

To end a blood feud with simon the magician

[remote wadi]

I mean humans aren't perfect

[urban spire]

also like, christianity isn't a monolith? there are so many major sects these of days with very different concepts of sin and forgiveness

[opaque coyote]

Mormon belief is fucking insane

[remote wadi]

David literally send his man to die at war to f their wifes

And he got punished for it

[urban spire]

yeah it's really out there

[opaque coyote]

The Bible fandom has some wild fanfic

[remote wadi]

The bible is very straight foward

[winged jacinth]

Im still paying for indulgences chat am i getting scammed

[remote wadi]

The religions are the ones flipping it

When it comes to define sin

It is defined

[paper haven]

Man people are mad as hell.

[remote wadi]

The bible interpretation is more on the examples than the definitions of the concept

[dapper gyro]

Taoism is one of the more recent ones. It is when people get communication and access to more education that some group starts to remove the "divinity" out of the way of life.

[queen laurel]

DT fans are childish they are already bomb reviewing the game

I get not liking the class but seriously

[opaque coyote]

To be fair...

That's partially just due to times changing.

Also Islam believes that they have the complete scripture and that Christianity and Judaism just has incomplete ones

[remote wadi]

Genuinely if you read the bible first page to last page

[urban spire]

RECENT?

[remote wadi]

It only really has 3 interpretations

[winged jacinth]

Recent like 400bce?

[remote wadi]

On the things they say it has like 20

[winged jacinth]

Taoism is from the warring states period lmao

[opaque coyote]

God gave us English Teachers to interpret a straight forward sentence in 50 ways

[dapper gyro]

Depending on how you trace it.

[remote wadi]

To be fair Jews believe their scripture is incomplete

They still waiting for messiah

[urban spire]

the tao te ching is from the warring states period, taoism itself is even older

[remote wadi]

And the worst part is if Christians are correct that means they will workship anti christ

[urban spire]

like thousands of years older

[remote wadi]

💀

[dapper gyro]

The symbol itself existed in various forms and within other cultures.

[remote wadi]

Taoism is itself flawed

[dapper gyro]

The teaching and ideology vary wildly.

[remote wadi]

Cause you lack the context of Ur ancestors

[opaque coyote]

...

So the Judaism version of God is basically George RR Martin

[urban spire]

taoism isn't ancestor worship

[remote wadi]

No they have the same god as Christians except they are the chosen ones

And the Messiah isnt born yet

Honestly Taoism is cool as a concept

[dapper gyro]

Modern day Buddhism is not the same as old Buddhism. Old Buddhism is brutal as fuck.

[remote wadi]

But humans can't reach perfect balance

We are made to be negative

[urban spire]

modern day buddhism also isn't a monolith, there are still brutal sects of buddhism

[remote wadi]

Our brain picks the negative more than positive for survival

[opaque coyote]

"Man the Messiah is taking way too long

Islam and Christianity: "Bro we already got the Messiah and his books. Check it o-"

"NO THAT'S FANFICTION!"

[remote wadi]

Actually they have a solid argument

[winged jacinth]

Im beginning to worry that the darktide discord isnt the hotbed of religious scholarship i thought it was

[remote wadi]

Back in the medivial age Christians used to kill people who were elubrated

[dapper gyro]

Old Buddhism did as much war lobbying as Boeing.

[remote wadi]

Aka they believed to be the messiah

[urban spire]

hold up what do you think taoism is?

[remote wadi]

Jews are like maybe jesus is one of them

[urban spire]

without googling

[remote wadi]

The ying and yang

The non action

[urban spire]

ok what is yin and yang

[remote wadi]

The balance of all things

[opaque coyote]

Honestly religious scholarship isn't much different than this

[remote wadi]

One is peace the other is chaos or disorder

I'm more informed about monotheism and greek/Roman workship tbh

I'm sorry I'm western

[urban spire]

yeah you're a bit out of your depth here

[humble shoal]

You want some religious scholarship

Jesus christ should be called oily josh

[remote wadi]

In wh40k lore we are

In real life nah

[dapper gyro]

Taoism as we know it now doesn't take positive and negative as extreme as it used to be.

[winged jacinth]

https://youtu.be/xRegUuydEUg

[humble shoal]

Cant watch videos at work

[remote wadi]

But to be fair if I lived in the universe of 40k I wouldn't be able to be a non believer

Like for godsake my life is at risk every second I breath

[dapper gyro]

It used to be justification for dictatorship in some SEA regions, because having the one to control all keeps people in line, therefore peace.

[remote wadi]

And the gods actually respond

[dapper gyro]

Which is not wrong, but still crazy.

[urban spire]

taoism is pretty individualistic

[winged jacinth]

Jesus has a fish recipe with too much lemon

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh responds "Damn bro, it's time to get a makeover. First, shove a few spikes up your ass. Very important to become a believer!"

[remote wadi]

To be fair all religions were used individualistically

By the elites

The Romans even used gods as warfare

[humble shoal]

Except janeism

[remote wadi]

We have Ur god now what you gonna do about it

[humble shoal]

[urban spire]

i mean individualistic in that it's focused on self improvement

[remote wadi]

[remote wadi]

Ohhh

[winged jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Eck2Mv3UA

[remote wadi]

To be fair most religions have a decent base of morals

And they fulfill the need for social interactions

[opaque coyote]

"Don't murder people"

[urban spire]

that's not really what i meant either, but it's complicated to explain and i'm also not an expert

[remote wadi]

Don't cheat, you are cheating urself

[urban spire]

but like if you're acting in accordance with the dao and murdering a mf is the most natural thing for you to do in the moment, you do it

[remote wadi]

Arrogance leads to death or bad consequences

Envy leads to depression

[dapper gyro]

My issue with Taoism is that it is more of a moral compass than a religion, and it is so often used to justify other things.

[remote wadi]

Religions knew this before psychology was a study

[urban spire]

i'm like 60% certain you've got it mixed up with confucianism

[remote wadi]

The only thing religions usually lack is a proper explanation

It's like don't do this cause bad things will happen

What bad things

Trust me bro you don't wanna know

[dapper gyro]

It is my take.

[remote wadi]

Meanwhile psychology tells you

[opaque coyote]

Also

[west pendant]

wassup nerds

[languid meadow]

I love these powerscaling images so much

as someone who is on the periphery of this stuff it's entertaining

[west pendant]

you guys seen the new darktide class???

looks super fun

[vagrant fox]

Aside from the trailer I'm mildly optimistic about it

[storm jungle]

Wow a sane opinion

you missed the first wave of salt/rage

[west pendant]

why would I be enranged?

[vagrant fox]

The drip in the deluxe edition is pretty pogging

Hoping there's an extended trailer showcasing the boombringer

[west pendant]

anyway im so excited im about to start red dead redemption 2

[celest dome]

Some people are really annoyed it isn't Admech

[vagrant fox]

Whinging they can't play a skitarii or servitor with 0 personality whatsoever

[arctic talon]

Skitarii have personality

[vagrant fox]

One day we'll get a superior lowly tech thrall

[arctic talon]

Smh

[elder helm]

I'm slightly perturbed by this information

[arctic talon]

Servitors dont

lol

[vagrant fox]

nuh uh

[opaque coyote]

I mean it does look cool

[elder helm]

how dare you

[west pendant]

servitor?

[vagrant fox]

remote controlled little toy soldier going beep boop

[west pendant]

why would I want to play as a servitor

[arctic talon]

Skitarii literally do have personalities

Smh

[vagrant fox]

idk I don't get it

[elder helm]

servitors make for great fodder

[arctic talon]

Servitor requests are fucking weird

Skitarii I can understand

[opaque coyote]

Surprised we never got Servitors as an enemy type tbh

[west pendant]

servitors are only useful to empty my chamberpot

[arctic talon]

Since they’re sapient and sentient

Servitors are like

Lobotomized and unthinking(mostly)

[opaque coyote]

Have we ever got like a combat servitor as an elite enemy/boss?

I always thought that would be cool

Also would fit the Nurgle theme

Especially if the humans parts are rotten

[west pendant]

most clients you find working retail jobs

[arctic talon]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

The procedure for making a servitor isn't a horrific lobotomization and defilement of the body

It's just forcing a person to watch company training tapes

[celest dome]

We could get a Macro Servitor I guess

[opaque coyote]

You get the robot parts for free

[opaque coyote]

...okay that would be sick as an enemy

[west pendant]

what else is there to play as a class?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Yeah that's fucking awesome

[opaque coyote]

Skitarii/Mechanicus, Kroot Mercenary

[vagrant fox]

jokes aside I just don't see how a skitarii could fit in that well as cool as it'd be, I'd rather see a different type of admech class

Fighting some bloated nurgle infested servitor could be good fun

[west pendant]

whats a skitarii

[opaque coyote]

The retail workers of the Mechanicus basically

[west pendant]

oooh

[vagrant fox]

cyborg soldiers of the adeptus mechanicus

[west pendant]

yeah those would be cool, they will come later

[celest dome]

Tech Adept would imo be the best pick as it enable FS to throw about anything that theycould want on it

[west pendant]

its not like the hivescum are gonna be the last class

[opaque coyote]

Sorta sad that it wasn't a Kroot merc

But not unexpected

[celest dome]

Probably not those imo

[west pendant]

no, like the scuffed version of a skitari

[opaque coyote]

(it turns out it's the last class)

[west pendant]

lmao yeah, the game will fail

[opaque coyote]

[celest dome]

Vanguard are very much not likely due to their radiation stuff, and also their helmet being leaked for Indigan Praefacts

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I kinda expect something similar to Vermintide where we get modified versions of the base also

Like a Sister of Battle class that would be an offshoot of Zealot

[celest dome]

Probably the 3rd to last

[arctic talon]

Skitarii aren’t happening over tech adepts

[hallow saddle]

i like that with both of the classes ppl have convinced themselves are coming, one doesnt work, and the other would be sshit and also doesnt woork

[arctic talon]

I am the ultimate admech shill

I have seen the future

With the power of huffing chemicals

[hallow saddle]

and ppl are literally obsessed with convincing themselves that its gonna happen

[opaque coyote]

Kroot Mercenary wouldn't work?

[vagrant fox]

tech thrall is the next class trust

[opaque coyote]

[vagrant fox]

then 3 classes after the tech thrall it's eldar outcast

[hallow saddle]

well no, but i was thinkig admech and ratling

[opaque coyote]

But yeah Servitor is always questionable purely because of like

[hallow saddle]

but no kroot would not work

[opaque coyote]

The #1 thing I love about Darktide is the character banter

[hallow saddle]

but ppl have been banging on about both of these for the whole time darktide has been out

[opaque coyote]

It is genuinely enjoyable

[hallow saddle]

theyre both stupid ideas

[opaque coyote]

Servitor has no banter

[opaque coyote]

Nuh uh

[arctic talon]

I’ve always said admech because I’m an admech shill

On god

[opaque coyote]

It totally will

Trust

[hallow saddle]

servitor is taking the admech and making it actually stupidly pointless

[arctic talon]

I own 4k points of them give or take

lol

[arctic talon]

Real

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, there would be no possible character interactions

[vagrant fox]

you play mobas and own 4k points worth of admech? I am starting to suspect you have issues

[hallow saddle]

people have really really really bad ideas of what should happen

[celest dome]

I want Sisters and Admech cause those are 2 factions that I very much like and would love to see both due to personalities and due to their lore/weapons

[arctic talon]

I’m not socially maladjusted smh

[languid meadow]

I play the class because fishbones is cool

[arctic talon]

I do have issues though

[languid meadow]

but still boring

[opaque coyote]

Kroot Merc and Admech are two that I want

[arctic talon]

Unrelated to this

[languid meadow]

hopefully the clothes they get have some swag

outside of the deluxe

[hallow saddle]

why in a million years would there be a kroot in darktide

[arctic talon]

Mercenary Idfk

[languid meadow]

idk but Kroot can play a big part in heretic based storylines

[celest dome]

Xenos\Kroot I doubt would happen cause they're not really sensible toward the game's tags

[vagrant fox]

To be fair I never said socially maladjusted ☝️

[opaque coyote]

Mercenary

Grendyl is a radical so he could add a Xeno in there

It is plausible

[languid meadow]

I don't think we'll ever get a xenos class

it would be cool

but

nah

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this is just wish fulfillment

[celest dome]

Eldar maybe I guess

[opaque coyote]

I don't think it will ever happen

[celest dome]

But no other

[opaque coyote]

But c'mon

[hallow saddle]

they wouldnt add a xeno to the warband cause the xeno would never be able to go anywhere in the imperium on their own lmaooooo

[opaque coyote]

Don't tell me that a Kroot merc wouldn't be cool as a class

[hallow saddle]

which defeats the point of hiring them to do shit for you

sure itd be cool, doesnt work though

[celest dome]

If the Kroot has cool mechanics, maybe, but I'd rather see other things

[opaque coyote]

Tbf most of our missions are in places that are already overrun with Chaos

So

[hallow saddle]

oh and also the devs have even said they want you to play as baseline humans

like the regular guy

[opaque coyote]

...listen

Kroot

[hallow saddle]

not epic space mercenary

[opaque coyote]

[hallow saddle]

so like not only does it not work, theyve also said they dont want to do it

[opaque coyote]

Doesn't need to be epic

Also Ogryn is NOT baseline

[hallow saddle]

this also applies to ppl saying ratling

[celest dome]

Kroot are not on the level of SM

Like it isn't what they've meant

[opaque coyote]

Like Ogryn literally isn't baseline

They are stronger than SMs canonically

[celest dome]

Ratling doesn't change compared to Ogryn either in relation of that tag line

[hallow saddle]

yeah true

[opaque coyote]

Again, honestly I kinda expect something similar to Vermintide where there's variations of the different classes.

Like, as an example, I can imagine if they ever put in a Sister of Battle. It'd be a subclass of the Zealot.

[lament shoal]

Saw the thumbnail for the reveal. Do we have dual wielding now?

[surreal nest]

Quite

[vagrant fox]

seems so

[celest dome]

Do you mean the prem careers ?

[lament shoal]

LETS GO

[languid meadow]

all of their guns I think are dual wielded

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Hopefully not paid though

[surreal nest]

The blog post talks of dual wielding knives and (clubs?) I think

[opaque coyote]

[languid meadow]

at least the needle gun and uzis

[surreal nest]

I saw a single uzi

[green loom]

And some of the guns

[opaque coyote]

The potential for dual wielding alone makes it worth tbh

[celest dome]

I don't think that Sister would work there, as Zealot has both male and female, and that they're not tied to the Sisters.

[opaque coyote]

Easily removes any sort of bitterness

Because Akimbo is cool

[celest dome]

Like having prem branches be Crusader and Redemptionist for the Zealot

[languid meadow]

you could prob use them single then

[celest dome]

Stormtrooper for the Veteran...

[opaque coyote]

True yeah

Maybe just a ecchelisarchy priest in general?

[languid meadow]

but the knives and uzsi are dual wielded

[opaque coyote]

Actually yeah

Crusader would be awesome

[lament shoal]

Finally, the better version of Hired Gun

[languid meadow]

this is all I want really either cosmetically or class wise

there's a hotshot in the concept art

we have a scion helmet

like please

[opaque coyote]

Also did they ever add a way to get cosmetics freely

[surreal nest]

God I keep reading endlessly terrible takes on the hive scum class already

[opaque coyote]

Or is it still "pay mf"

[languid meadow]

outside of havoc no you still gotta pay

[surreal nest]

I saw a dude complain about how their ranged ability works and how it refreshes off kill and theyre like "um vet already does that"

Why does vet have a monopoly on resetting cooldowns 😭

[languid meadow]

their auras and keystones are just other classes stuff (outside of their adrenaline one)

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's my #1 problem with the game tbh

[languid meadow]

like this is our 3rd kill marked enemies keystone

[opaque coyote]

Like it isn't f2p

[urban spire]

i'm sure hive scum will be fun to play, fatshark is pretty consistent, but i'm still disappointed

[surreal nest]

Yeah but there isnt much you can do within reason

[urban spire]

and the trailer did suck

[surreal nest]

If it works

[opaque coyote]

I should be able to get cosmetics/thrones by playing

[hallow saddle]

they need to just do it

[languid meadow]

also outside of fishbones (the rocket) their nades are just zealot nades

[hallow saddle]

stop being fannies

[opaque coyote]

Doesn't every class have an ability that refreshes by murdering ppl

[languid meadow]

the stims and rocket is what is carrying this class for me

[opaque coyote]

In fact, isn't that what the armor/faith system is

[urban spire]

it doesn't help that the shit in the cosmetics store is fucking crazy expensive

[languid meadow]

outside of that it's meh

[celest dome]

IP cost is expensive 💀

[opaque coyote]

Bro I could buy another game for the price of one outfit

[spring cairn]

industry standard™

[urban spire]

i wouldn't mind dropping a few dollars, i'm a mark, but that shit is just too expensive

[spring cairn]

unironically tho

[surreal nest]

You dont even know that for sure

It could work completely different

[languid meadow]

that's how tknives work

like word for word

[arctic talon]

Super mega death rocket lookin ass

[languid meadow]

that's just another immo nade

[surreal nest]

I mean yeah but thats an extremely general thing

"Refresh off hit"

[languid meadow]

only Tknives work like that

[opaque coyote]

Again either make a battle pass system similar to Fortnite's (chokes)

Or, due to the game costing Money to play.

Just have a method to get thrones that doesn't require you to play Havoc if you just want to play casually

[languid meadow]

throwing mid combo

get back off kill

[languid meadow]

Yeah I'm actually excited for that one

[spring cairn]

time to put down zealot behind the old shed for good, they had a good run, it's mercy atp

[urban spire]

i was really hoping for some necromunda shit

[vagrant fox]

necromunda stuff next week

[languid meadow]

idk I think the could've done more blitz wise and keystone wise but w/e

I would've like to explode

[opaque coyote]

Also as a side thing

I find it funny that only 2/5 classes are guaranteed to have training

[languid meadow]

3 actually

ogryn, vet, arbites

[urban spire]

training?

[opaque coyote]

3/5 either depend entirely on chosen backstory

[languid meadow]

ogryn is always a part of the guard no?

[opaque coyote]

Or are just ppl who are homeless

[opaque coyote]

The Ogryns technically do have training but it's not combat related

It's more so just

[urban spire]

ogryn training is very light

[opaque coyote]

"Please for God's sake get in the train"

[surreal nest]

Aren't at least one of the psykers sanctioned

[languid meadow]

no

[vagrant fox]

Ogryn isn't always in the guard, sometimes they're just slaves

[surreal nest]

The one who was an enforcer

[opaque coyote]

Again, backstory

[languid meadow]

they were used by the enforcers

but that's not sanctioning

[celest dome]

Nope

[languid meadow]

it's a procress

[celest dome]

Even Savant wasn't

[languid meadow]

not just a piece of paper

[surreal nest]

I dont think i claimed that

[valid needle]

Bigots try not hate ganger in gen chat challenge = impossible

[urban spire]

oh

because the ganger in the trailer is a woman?

[languid meadow]

I hate not liking the class because #thosepeople also don't like it

[spring cairn]

i hate ganger and i'm not that

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-go-away-affiliated-gif-5540784

[opaque coyote]

I mean

Zealot is also a woman

[vagrant fox]

I've had a lot of fun today, people going full chud mode in general chat

[celest dome]

Yes 💀

Saying it is a Mary Sue

[opaque coyote]

...

[urban spire]

yeah but hive scum looks more alt

[opaque coyote]

[daring creek]

My day has been ruined

More women..

[languid meadow]

but yeah non of the psykers are sanctioned

[urban spire]

WOMEN AM I RIGHT?

[languid meadow]

it's a whole ass ritual you have to do to make you harder to corrupt and shit

[daring creek]

Every damn character is a mary sue

[valid needle]

Shut down the game servers immediately.

[languid meadow]

not just someone going "all right you can exist"

[opaque coyote]

A different fucking hairstyle??

[urban spire]

that's all it takes sibling

[opaque coyote]

Oh no she has a mohawk

[urban spire]

for bigots to go insane

[opaque coyote]

It's not like 40k ever had mohawks

[rocky gale]

I might hate that the class is Ganger, but like everyone having a meltdown over it is dumb

[daring creek]

I don't mind ganger lookin like a punk hoe

[opaque coyote]

That is quite literally the best class to look like a punk hoe

[rustic patrol]

the priest in Dark Imperium had a mohawk

[opaque coyote]

She literally is in a gang

[rustic patrol]

punk hoe the class

[languid meadow]

forums are always ass

no matter what

it was dogshit when arbites was coming out iirc

[rustic patrol]

lol skitarii cope at the end
knew it

[daring creek]

I just hope Hivescum won't be broken like arbitrator(who am I kidding?)

[languid meadow]

it will be

[vagrant fox]

whaa whaa whaa arbites is just a tiny ogryn

[storm jungle]

stop reading the forums

[urban spire]

never mind i love hive scum

ideal outcome

the trailer rules actually

[opaque coyote]

Did people forget that 40k is partially based off of Mad Max.

Like every ganger looks like they're straight out of Mad Max ffs

[rustic patrol]

shhh they learning how to read

[remote wadi]

A female hive ganger is not woke

If anything it's the opposite

[spring cairn]

i must remain strong in my disdain for ganger

[daring creek]

rejecting the overly progressive aes-

I have stopped reading. God these people are subhuman

[spring cairn]

these mfs about to make me love it out of spite

[remote wadi]

A woman being a gangster aka submissive to a ganglord

[opaque coyote]

Also don't we get to choose the gender anyways?

[languid meadow]

at least admech had actually presences behind it instead of checks notes death cult and xenos merc? people wanted instead of arbities

[remote wadi]

True

[languid meadow]

idk how you would make a death cultist work

[rustic patrol]

you ger one in the RT game

[opaque coyote]

||Kroot Merc next time. A man's cope never dies||

[dark moon]

I was irritated about no AdMech class until I read that ganger gets a damn rocket launcher. I’m fully on board now.

[opaque coyote]

HUH?

OH FUCK YEAH

[dark moon]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

yeah

[dark moon]

I know right?

[opaque coyote]

I'M ON BOARD

[arctic talon]

We will get admech eventually

[spring cairn]

not enough, never forget what they took from u

[arctic talon]

Fellow admech shill

[spring cairn]

admech

[languid meadow]

prob the only reason im interested in the class

but yeah I still think we'll get an admech class

[remote wadi]

Honestly I have psyker

[spring cairn]

third times the charm

[opaque coyote]

I'm sorry

I would be an Admech shill

But

Kroot Merc is just too cool of an idea

[remote wadi]

Anything they release is just not psyker

[opaque coyote]

[rustic patrol]

it's called a rocket propelled grenade

[vagrant fox]

I'm fairly certain something admech related is basically guaranteed eventually, maybe next summer idk

[dark moon]

Meh, it’s in the back of my brain pan, but on the other hand, rocket launcher am I right fellas?

[languid meadow]

since like we still have a bunch admech related stuff in the files, plus like an actual storyline that is heavily about them going on.

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538