40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Tbh

It’s got some

But it’s got way less then 2x rn from playtests

[prime seal]

arc sys locked in

[queen laurel]

That surprising I thought

2x would be the one having less b******* because you know

Riot trying to balance things relatively

[arctic talon]

Can strive 2 whatever it is be good

[prime seal]

im still not playing tokkon after what they did to fighterz

[arctic talon]

lol

[prime seal]

they'll eventually do that in tokkon fs

[arctic talon]

They’ve explicitly not did this with 2XKO lol

They literally buffed Yasuo because he was “too fair”

So they gave him a massive fucking disjoint

And more + on block stuff

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah they also have The war criminal champion himself teemo

[prime seal]

maybe, i dont think there enough to make it rev2 levels of good

[arctic talon]

I’m not expecting Rev 2 levels of good

Tbh

I just want strive to be better then it is now

Nothing will dethrone Rev 2 for me

Unless Arcsys somehow makes Rev 3

[prime seal]

rev2 raven was something else

[arctic talon]

lol

I’m def nostalgia goggled for Rev2 and Xrd as a whole

But whatever

It’s so much fun lol

Sin my beloved

[prime seal]

popping combos after you got your ass beat and filled out your maso gauge was mega satisfying

[prime seal]

tbf we could go play that shit rn and we'd have just as much fun

[arctic talon]

I can lol

[prime seal]

idk if you can have nostalgia googles for a ps3 fighting game

[arctic talon]

But I also play strive because it’s way faster to get a game lol

[arctic talon]

It was my first fighting game

lol

So that’s why

[prime seal]

strive for me is slow too

[arctic talon]

Strive is weird

It’s not bad

[prime seal]

i play rev2 with people irl

[arctic talon]

Just I don’t like the current state of the game

I play Rev 2 with friends mostly

[prime seal]

if im playing online i'll play sf6

[arctic talon]

I like variety

I play like 4 fighting games actively rn lol

💀

[prime seal]

are you goated at any of them

[arctic talon]

Does clawing my way into top 8 at locals count

Then strive/xrd/granblue

lol

[prime seal]

idk if the scene where you're at is any good

[arctic talon]

It’s pretty good

There’s people here who’ve gotten pretty high in evo and other tournaments

[prime seal]

here there are only scenes for like tekken and smash bros

[arctic talon]

For Granblue and strive specifically

[prime seal]

after leffen got away with you know what i lost a lot of faith in the strive scene

[arctic talon]

Lol

Idrc tbh

Strive is fun enough

I’m enough of a guilty gear shill

[prime seal]

that and the sf player i cant recall managing to win a major with potemkin after picking up the game for a few days

tbh respect he called the scene dogshit, asked who was the worst charachter for competitive play and won a major with him

[arctic talon]

Strive is too volatile to be a good competitive game

Rn lol

That’s my take on it

Like you can have high level competition but the game is volatile as fuck

[neat zenith]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMKMP3H2/

[arctic talon]

Also Leffen was paying strive as their main game then

[neat zenith]

[arctic talon]

So whatever

That’s my opinion on him winning Evo lol

[prime seal]

strive let leffen win evo through bullshit chaos playing

[neat zenith]

When’s MAHVEL?

[arctic talon]

Mahvel 5 is never happening

💀

[prime seal]

never

[neat zenith]

😭

[arctic talon]

Yeah not my problem

Tbh

[prime seal]

friendship ended with crapcom

[arctic talon]

Chaos being bullshit is whatever

I do not try to understand Daisuke’s balancing decisions

[prime seal]

now arc midstem works is my best friend

[arctic talon]

Because that’s how you go insane

[arctic talon]

Don’t insult arcsys smh

[neat zenith]

https://youtu.be/6fbfrV5qqnU?si=hcQwV7sk7RaMdo2h

[prime seal]

absolutely not back then he was ragequit worthy

[arctic talon]

I’m sending you to the meat grinder for this

[arctic talon]

I literally played against it

I’m aware

And I didn’t really give a shit

[prime seal]

did you forget how rewarded he was for nonsensical aggression

[arctic talon]

Guilty gear always has some fucking bullshit going on

Yes

[prime seal]

worse than sol

[arctic talon]

And it was dumb

But whatever

It’s guilty gear

It’s always got shit like this

[prime seal]

yeah but it was game breaking and strive doesnt abide by series standard of everyon can break the game

[arctic talon]

Testament in accent core and elphelt in Xrd

[arctic talon]

Which hopefully changes

[arctic talon]

Tokon is interesting

But also it’s weird

Since you need to “unlock” your assists

And it’s not 4 health bars lol

[prime seal]

nah not gonna happen they'll simplify the game even more just watch

[arctic talon]

We’ll see

[neat zenith]

I wanna play tokon, but the LoL fighter piqued my interest

[arctic talon]

I’m not interested in having this conversation anymore so let’s talk about literally anything else

[prime seal]

you can play test rn i think

[arctic talon]

I already bitch about strive enough with friends

[arctic talon]

It plays kind of like MVC

It’s weird

Some shit feels really off in that game

[prime seal]

all i know is

[arctic talon]

Hitstun lasts forever on some stuff

[neat zenith]

MvC you say

[prime seal]

sett is not in the game

[arctic talon]

Vaguely

[prime seal]

aatrox is not in the game, jhin is not in the game.

[arctic talon]

Also you can combo off of forward grab which is hilarious

[prime seal]

so i dont have a reason to play it

[prime seal]

it has tod's too

[neat zenith]

The only time I took a fighter seriously was umvc3 so I’m always looking for something similar

[arctic talon]

It’s got a lot of TODs lol

[prime seal]

lower your expectations

[neat zenith]

😭

[prime seal]

umvc3 was one of a kind

[neat zenith]

Best neutral game in a fighter

Besides dbz

Imo

[prime seal]

i wish it had one last update that would reduce the effectiveness of zero may cry

[arctic talon]

💀

[prime seal]

absofucking lutely not

[neat zenith]

Unless they are doing morri doom bullshit

[arctic talon]

UMVC3’s neutral is like a bomb strapped to your chest

lol

[prime seal]

unironically tekken 1 has better neutral

and that game is fundumentally broken

[arctic talon]

But if you want comically huge rewards

Off of one neutral interaction

2XKO has that

lol

No motion inputs is cringe though smh

[neat zenith]

I literally cannot enter the 3d space, it’s jarring from just playing capcom fighters

[arctic talon]

I wish it was a toggle

3d fighters are bizarre to me

I cannot play them

[prime seal]

you can play tekken 8

its 2d

[arctic talon]

Not really

[prime seal]

it's 3d in name only

[neat zenith]

I also wanted to try hitbox controller or whatever too

[arctic talon]

I’m not interested in playing tekken as a series

[neat zenith]

The all button one, no joystick

[arctic talon]

I enjoy watching tournaments though

lol

[prime seal]

those feel specifically made for tekken too

but they're kind of depressing

hitting electrics on them is extra easy

[arctic talon]

I like hitboxes

Feel way better then stick tbh

[neat zenith]

I saw people doing 360 and shoryu shortcuts on them tho

[arctic talon]

Shortcut buttons for inputs like that are cringe

lol

[prime seal]

not buttons he means the input

[arctic talon]

Oh

[neat zenith]

Not I mean like cause the way it reads your inputs

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s literally a fucked up keyboard

Regarding hitboxes

[neat zenith]

lol

Also cause I need to switch to a traditional stick/hitbox cause I also wanna play charge characters

And it’s hard on the controller

[arctic talon]

Yeah charge is fucked on pad

I don’t get how people play charge characters on pad in general lowkey lol

[vagrant fox]

obviously one should play with a keyboard as bill gates intended

[crystal forum]

finished the 3 episodes of pluribus

i need the whole season NOW

i can't believe vince created a show where the main character is even more morally ambiguous than saul goodman

looked on reddit and it's just people shitting on the show for incredibly stupid reasons

[wet sandal]

"looked on reddit" well that's your mistake right there

[crystal forum]

"it's overhyped"
how is that the fucking show's fault

how is that valid criticism at all

also a lot of people are just confused about the plot which is just

i feel like a lot of these people only got into breaking bad because it's popular and don't have the mental capacity to actually enjoy it

pluribus's plot is so straightforward so far it's crazy how you could be confused at all. the show explains so many things early and takes the time to answer the immediate answers you'll get in the first episode

like how severance took the time to explain any potential plot holes in the setting early on by having carol test the limits of the severance procedure until you as a viewer are satisfied that there's no way around the rules of the show

[daring creek]

Wait wait wait pluribus? Is it the one by Vince gilligan? Is the shows prompt "the most unhappiest woman in the world needs to save the world from happiness"?

Tell me it is PLEASE

PLEAAASEEEE

It is

[crystal forum]

the description of the show is not really what it's about lel

kinda funny how it hides the real plot

[languid meadow]

all the calling cards in Bo7 are AI slop

[celest dome]

What is Bo7 ?

[lament shoal]

Black ops 7

[lament shoal]

Because of course they are lol

[celest dome]

I'm stuck on CoD 🧓

[rose thorn]

Not shocked at all lol

[rose thorn]

Dr doom wiping out a Glock is fucking great

[outer wave]

Worst part is it doesnt even fit the theme for the first set of calling cards; the second calling card is just dogass

[daring creek]

Why are they using ai images

[outer wave]

Microsoft owns them and is pushing AI stuff onto the devs

[daring creek]

So forced.

[rose thorn]

CHRIST 4V4 FIGHTING GAME?????that sounds like hell to learn

[languid meadow]

I mean even if it isn't microsoft it's activision they would do this regardless

[rose thorn]

Hopefully the controls aren’t fucking insane when you have to learn 4 characters

[arctic talon]

They’re normal inputs

Tag fighter time

All tag fighters are hell

[sly zenith]

Net working? More like not working !

[rose thorn]

[arctic talon]

lol

[sly zenith]

I can’t get past 10mgs

[arctic talon]

There’s a simplified input option

[sly zenith]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

But good luck learning combos

lol

[storm jungle]

I just finished watching Bricky play it

ive never seen

a man so mentally broken

the entire game is nonsense slop

[arctic talon]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

💀

[languid meadow]

holy shit he looks hollow

[storm jungle]

dude

theres entire bits where he just stares in disbelief at how dumb some parts get for like-

sometimes a minute straight

[languid meadow]

😭

[storm jungle]

also he was trying to watch the credits

and they ended instantly

because it just showed the studios and no one else LMFAO

[arctic talon]

AI generated campaign

[storm jungle]

😭

[arctic talon]

💀

[storm jungle]

💀

honestly deserved

[arctic talon]

Refund it

It’s easy

[languid meadow]

lmfao

well at least he got his money back and made money

worth it I guess

[storm jungle]

Apparently he got it back by saying it contained bad AI generated content since he played it for 5 hours compared to the 2 hour limit

[arctic talon]

Don’t worry this guide is iconic to learning any tag fighter(really strong language in it)

https://youtu.be/vpYdEjvAg3k?si=o7XLHhN8cP3ntPZM

[languid meadow]

it has this notice on the game but it's a lie since AI didn't help make stuff

it just made it all

[storm jungle]

it might genuinely explain how the entire game is a shitshow

[outer wave]

Yeah there's like little to no human input into this game

[storm jungle]

just- NOTHING makes sense

[outer wave]

At most just editing and some VA work

[storm jungle]

having actually watched someone play this id agree

[outer wave]

I dont even know the storyline of BO2 and this shit doesnt make any sense

[storm jungle]

you should play it

its worth it compared to this shit lol

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[outer wave]

I dont wanna end up with some super hacker somehow using a RRAT on me or something and hacking my computer lmao

[storm jungle]

just buy it loser

[outer wave]

Also game is expensive

NO IM NOT BUYING THAT

[arctic talon]

Blue iron man would have destroyed thanos on god

[storm jungle]

COWARD

[outer wave]

ITS 70 DOLLARS OR WHATEVER

I'LL PIRATE IT

[arctic talon]

Blue iron man is too powerful

[storm jungle]

hope you get trojan horse'd

[outer wave]

I hope you explode

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

auaagh-

[outer wave]

HOORAY!!!!

MY WISH CAME TRUE

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/mvc2-marvel-vs-capcom-iron-man-infinity-djchamploo-gif-11819377923682601210

[young pecan]

Secret Black Ops 2 ending ❤️‍🩹

Secret ending being canon ❤️‍🩹

[storm jungle]

We all knew BO2 ended with Menendez and Woods making amends and going on a tour with Avenge Sevenfold

any game after it is a cokebinge after-effect

[pseudo fox]

i am bored can someone tell me interesting warhammer topic so i can look it up on internet

[young pecan]

Salamander racism

[pseudo fox]

i mean its just basic space marine thing

[young pecan]

It's interesting and most people don't know about it

Idk man necron gender dysphoria

[jade holly]

Any hints to the next class?

[young pecan]

Only that GW is a fuck

[jade holly]

[humble shoal]

so what happened is fatshark had 3 classes, skiitari ganger and space marine scout

and then games workshop asked if the scout was an ultramarine

fastshark said no so they said it needed to be removed

[young pecan]

They actually couldn't afford Titus VA

[humble shoal]

nah chairons va wanted an anti ai clause

so gw killed off his character and the scout mentioned meeting chairon once

so he goptta go

[pseudo fox]

hive ganger or random tech priest unfortunatly

[west pendant]

I have explosive diarheea

[humble shoal]

jokaero

[humble shoal]

shit well and you may be blessed

by the grandfather

[west pendant]

thank you so much

[pseudo fox]

grandfather blessings shall be upon you

i realy dont understand people thinks plague amrines or nurgle is just about being stinky or something

its about being eternal

strong undying and being pure

[languid meadow]

They did change the colour of the "new class" text

what this could mean?

idk

it's interesting tho

[pseudo fox]

100% tech priest

i wish it was a skitari

or cool long leg dudes

[humble shoal]

It means that we are rerturning to the reik

[languid meadow]

I would like either but a tech priest would be more interesting compared to skitarii

[arctic talon]

Bro wants stiltboy

[languid meadow]

since skitarii and vet fill the same role

kind of

[storm jungle]

its a techpriest yeah

[pseudo fox]

not that one

[storm jungle]

[languid meadow]

well now it's not since dilara is yapping

[arctic talon]

Stilt boy is a sniper

lol

[storm jungle]

Imma yap your holes shut in a minute

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-squarepants-angry-ripping-gif-25651719

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/pufferfish-fish-stare-finana-ryugu-gif-25958989

[pseudo fox]

these dudes

[storm jungle]

AAAAAA-

[arctic talon]

Sicarians have overlap as well

With vet

[pseudo fox]

this would be amazing

[arctic talon]

Way more melee focused though

[pseudo fox]

and interesting

[arctic talon]

I’d rather a tech adept

Tbh

More personality variety

[languid meadow]

I would want a tech priest since I want a more technical class

[pseudo fox]

personality?

[languid meadow]

not just press button get buffed

[pseudo fox]

its jsut half robo dude

[arctic talon]

Yes?

Tech priests have personality

So do skitarii

But skitarii are all militant

[pseudo fox]

arent all skiitaris are half dead anyways because of their weapons

[arctic talon]

No

Vanguards get cancer but once they’re past the crux it’s no longer an issue

[pseudo fox]

realy

i thought

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

[pseudo fox]

all of them got cancer

[arctic talon]

Not all skitarii guns are radioactive

[pseudo fox]

because of their radioactive bullets

[arctic talon]

That is one specific type of weaponry

Radium weapons

Besides radiation isn’t harmful to members of the mechanicus past the crux

Ignore how that makes 0 sense in reality

But once skitarii past the crux radiation isn’t a worry anymore for them lol

[storm jungle]

Isnt radiation like literally an invisible "cloud"

aka the moment you are near it

you are basically fucked

[arctic talon]

Irl?

Yeah

lol

[storm jungle]

lmao yeah

[arctic talon]

It’s a invisible aura of death

Well

Not death

[storm jungle]

yeah that

[arctic talon]

But you’ll certainly wish you were dead

If you’re around too long

[storm jungle]

yeah it would make sense if like- the techpriest is just FULLY enclosed

[arctic talon]

But they’re not

[storm jungle]

but even then the radiation would "stick" on them

[arctic talon]

Yep

[storm jungle]

i actually had an Inquisitor of mine die like this

[arctic talon]

Skitarii vanguard armor is highly radioactive lol

[storm jungle]

he contracted radiation sickness from a magos he was meeting with who forgot he was carrying the particles, and he just unknowingly died like years later down the road assuming someone poisoned him and refused help

[pseudo fox]

imperium seriously trying realy hard to kill their own servants

[arctic talon]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Doesn’t matter

Holy light of the omnissiah says die

[storm jungle]

Imperium is self-defeating so yea

[arctic talon]

Also the mechanicus doesn’t care about radiation in that way

[pseudo fox]

yeah being immortal much more fun

[arctic talon]

It’s seen as a “holy” cleansing light

And they do know about the detrimental effects

[pseudo fox]

imperium got feudal worlds they are banger

i would live there

[arctic talon]

But if you die to radiation

[storm jungle]

Uh no

[arctic talon]

You’re weak

And deserve to die

[storm jungle]

feudal worlds are hellholes

[pseudo fox]

nah knights are cool

and horses

[humble shoal]

I will walk on the sunny side of mordia

[storm jungle]

i guess i hope you enjoy dying of disease

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-magnifying-glass-plankton-spongebob-magnifying-glass-burn-gif-27213632

[storm jungle]

and lack of technology

and freedom

and uhhh

about all the other shit peasants dealt with

lmao

[pseudo fox]

its just a hive world

[storm jungle]

No?

[pseudo fox]

but mediaval

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

[arctic talon]

Feudal worlds are like irl medieval times

Aka

Horrid

Except with some servitors and other tech

[humble shoal]

any place where space marines rewcruits really gotta suck

[arctic talon]

Untrue

[pseudo fox]

i saw them in rogue trader they got a servitor band

and knights

[storm jungle]

I love people lapping between "Nah medieval times werent that bad" to "Nah they were horrible lol"

[pseudo fox]

i accept irl medieval times were horrible

but its warhammer

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s based on irl medieval times

[storm jungle]

I meant more historians and people on youtube not you dont worry lol

[arctic talon]

We’re never seen a feudal world that’s not shit

[storm jungle]

also that yeah

[arctic talon]

For 40k

[storm jungle]

like uh

[arctic talon]

Like knight worlds can be nicer

[storm jungle]

me and my firend are gonna be updating the agri-world page soon

[arctic talon]

But they’re their own classification

Not feudal world

[storm jungle]

and this is for example an image of one

i fucking love it

lmao

[pseudo fox]

coolest shit ever

[arctic talon]

I do love how some agri worlds are actually nice

And others are

[storm jungle]

I LOVE my slop-towers

[arctic talon]

The grain torment nexus

[storm jungle]

lmao dude

i love that artwork

[arctic talon]

And the infinite algae farm of doom

[storm jungle]

where its just HELL

[pseudo fox]

even plague doesnt grow places like that

its hell

[humble shoal]

feel like the lack of suicide nets is a waste

[arctic talon]

The grimdark potato one?

[storm jungle]

Yeah it gets regularly doused with pesticides

[arctic talon]

Or the one where it’s even more fucked

[storm jungle]

the ones with the slop-mounds

[arctic talon]

Ah

[storm jungle]

and servitors climbing them

where it literally looks like hell

[arctic talon]

I know the one

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

There’s like some actually nice agri worlds

But I love the shit ones

As well

[storm jungle]

realistically speaking all agri-worlds would be shit

[arctic talon]

For every actually nice one there’s like

[arctic talon]

10 god awful ones

[storm jungle]

people got no idea how bad industrial farming actually is

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It’s horrid

For the environment lol

[storm jungle]

yeah lmfao

[arctic talon]

But it feeds people

So too vad

[storm jungle]

💀

[arctic talon]

Industrial farming is like an evil I am okay with

lol

[languid meadow]

this seems so inefficient and ass but I guess that's on par with the imperium

[storm jungle]

nobody asked you hillfurry

[languid meadow]

like that's not a terrible amount of food being made in those small terraces

[storm jungle]

[pseudo fox]

gawd damn imperium sucks

[hardy knot]

Wow

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[hardy knot]

Arent you a genius

[storm jungle]

be nice

also you are LITERALLY named Smooth

[hardy knot]

Takes a.dumbass to know dumbassery

Thus

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082483302671319191/1303581140682276895/minecraft_discord.gif

[languid meadow]

I do love how they have them suffering for less food than just making a planet sized field

[pseudo fox]

uhm no?

[hardy knot]

Sir

[pseudo fox]

thats not how agri culture funktions

[misty vector]

ooh whats this from?

[hardy knot]

Storage

[humble shoal]

I sorta want to see art of the algael farm ones

[hardy knot]

Living cuarters

[arctic talon]

WANG

Wrath and glory

[misty vector]

cool cool

[arctic talon]

Imperium maledictum has the grim dark potatoes

[surreal nest]

i love how monster hunter wilds made living in an industrial hellscape coated with ash and smoke cheerful and culture rich

[languid meadow]

storage and living can still be done with a planet sized field and you would still get more food than these small terraces but again it's in logic with the imperium

to not do that

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1410448394345910292/IM_Labourer1.png?ex=691b2eae&is=6919dd2e&hm=d31b5ba2bd2684805113d8dfc94880b0f453e280304e8731e1bad6db17bf3cba&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=267&

Evil ass potatoes

[arctic talon]

Oilwell basin W

[languid meadow]

cancer taters

[arctic talon]

Prolly one of the weirdest environments ever in a MH game

Crude oil swamp/volcano thing

[surreal nest]

Crazy ass monsters too

[pseudo fox]

in warhammer living nice is literally calls corruption

[misty vector]

and bottom of the ocean inspired too

[arctic talon]

The humble exploding Ape and mosquito balloon dinosaur

[surreal nest]

Nothing beats the rotten vale though such peak what a cool environment

[arctic talon]

And the oil octopus

[pseudo fox]

thats why every time nobles goes to worrship chaos

[surreal nest]

and the underwater place

[hardy knot]

Big ass rock lizard

[surreal nest]

coral highlands

[arctic talon]

Yeah lots of sea creatures but land based

[languid meadow]

I quite like the scarlet forest because of the small underwater sections and big dam

[arctic talon]

Coral highlands not being underwater is so funny

[hardy knot]

Normal octopus

[pseudo fox]

do they exists even at all?

if yes

i am interested

[arctic talon]

In 40k? Yeah

[pseudo fox]

is there a official art?

[arctic talon]

Uhh

Yes

[surreal nest]

It lowk just spongebob

I love it

[pseudo fox]

im interested

[arctic talon]

Ocean hiveworld

From the imperium maledictum “his glorious shield” stuff

[languid meadow]

there's also Forge World Beta-Decima

which is on a water world

[pseudo fox]

looks hella cool

[arctic talon]

Also Fathom is another water world

And uhh

[pseudo fox]

which book can io read about them

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/paolumu-odogaron-monster-hunter-world-destroy-mhw-gif-12955710175627893233

[arctic talon]

Mostly just rulebook lore

[pseudo fox]

shit

too bad i cant play tabletop

[arctic talon]

Spears of the emperor

Has an ocean world

In it

[pseudo fox]

who is spears of the emperor

[arctic talon]

It’s a chapter

Of marines

And also a book

[misty vector]

they put all the weird monsters in the ocean inspired locales

[languid meadow]

also Incron from darktide is an ocean world

[surreal nest]

damn, new reaction gif dropped

[languid meadow]

that's where the blue guardsmen come from that are ingame

[arctic talon]

Shame it’s not a real turf war in monster hunter world.

[surreal nest]

the blue guardsmen come from the blue planet

[arctic talon]

It’s just a scripted event that happens

[surreal nest]

milds had some fire turf wars ngl

wilds

[languid meadow]

milds

[surreal nest]

but milds works too

[pseudo fox]

wait youa re saying we literally got guard and space marines speacialized in underwater combat and shit?

[arctic talon]

Wilds has some great ones and also some bad ones

The fucking arkveld copy pastes are so boring

[surreal nest]

There's a guard regiment for everything

[misty vector]

always happening on the other side of the map though

[arctic talon]

But the unique ones are great

[arctic talon]

My CPU screaming as another turf war triggers

[pseudo fox]

i gotta look them up

[storm jungle]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oAdmez

[pseudo fox]

whata re they called exactly

[surreal nest]

arkveld is insanely fun to fight with longsword so im ok

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/seregios-rey-dau-monster-hunter-wilds-turf-war-monster-hunter-gif-6981282250057442691

[surreal nest]

i cant make myself hate wilds just because of how fun they made their weapons now

[arctic talon]

I think wilds plays great even if my favorite weapon is a bit fucked

[surreal nest]

greatsword and sword n shield feel so fun

[arctic talon]

Performance is still shit though

[surreal nest]

You play hammer

[arctic talon]

Insect glaive

Bug stick

[surreal nest]

oh you're not wrong insect glaive is not the move in wilds

[arctic talon]

Wilds prolly has the most in depth endgame High rank

Of any monster hunter game

[surreal nest]

i was a 100% insect glaive main in other games but I cant touch it in wilds

it feels so clunky

[arctic talon]

Just remove the charge inputs 💀

I play it in every game

I started in 4U

I’m never putting the damn stick down

They can take it from my cold dead hands

[surreal nest]

I haven't played much end game, are you still playing currently?

[arctic talon]

Somewhat

I pop on every once in a while for fun

[surreal nest]

how are the new updates that have been dropping

[arctic talon]

Talisman grind is a carrot

[languid meadow]

I quite enjoy the clash system

[arctic talon]

Extremely good

[misty vector]

omega is really cool

[arctic talon]

Arch tempered nu udra unironically is the best arch tempered fight they’ve ever done in terms of updating a monster

Including the world ones

[surreal nest]

I dropped like 150 hours when the game dropped and i havent played since april

[arctic talon]

Nu Udra has 4 new moves + a new heat aura mechanic lol

Omega is, omega

[surreal nest]

[arctic talon]

They’re cool but distinctly not monster hunter

On purpose

It’s a fun fight

[valid needle]

I wish BT were in darktide as a playable character

[surreal nest]

I will try out wilds when I get home from work

[valid needle]

God Black Templars are based

[pseudo fox]

nah

[surreal nest]

i dont want to go to the ER today

[misty vector]

though i feel like monsters like seregios and mizutsune shouldve been basegame

[pseudo fox]

they would take everything from world and kill everyone living in hive city

[valid needle]

Yuh

[arctic talon]

Seregios and Lagi were basegame

But got cut for time

They forced wilds out the door early

Just like rise and world

💀

[surreal nest]

Was Lagi the bubble bitch

[arctic talon]

Nah

Lagi is lighting leviathan

[valid needle]

Everyone living in the hive city are cultists💀 so warranted

[surreal nest]

Who was the post game bubble monster

that fight is FUN

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/lagiacrus-monster-hunter-mh-wilds-monster-hunter-wilds-gif-17484788438934669348

[proven needle]

And by based you mean batshit insane, right? 😆

[arctic talon]

Mizutsune

[surreal nest]

So much fun

[valid needle]

They aren’t insane

[wet sandal]

This but unironically

[arctic talon]

Funny bubble fox leviathan

[valid needle]

I don’t know a templar character that is actually mentally insane

[surreal nest]

Only thing I wasn't really liking about Wilds was how a lot of the armor was like eastern themed and i wanna be a big block of armor

[pseudo fox]

one time black teplars said they were on crusade and they took everything from some world and people as slaves in the name of emperor and left world not livable because they took every reasorce available

[arctic talon]

There’s big thick armor as well tbf

[misty vector]

though idk why they gave base mizu the soulseer part

[arctic talon]

It’s not soulseer

It can’t detect via bubbles

[surreal nest]

i think im using it currently its swell

[arctic talon]

All mizu’s can breathe fire if they eat burst arowana

[valid needle]

Yes like legit every other chapter does. It’s a standard Astartes tactic.

[arctic talon]

Which has been lore since GU

And Scarlet Forest has a fuck ton of burst arowana

Soulseers gimmick ironically isn’t fire

[pseudo fox]

i dont think normal chapters does that

[misty vector]

yeahhh but does it have to be every variant of mizu that gets fire attacks

[valid needle]

They legitimately do.

[arctic talon]

Idk

Capcom prolly wanted to make the fight harder

[valid needle]

@storm jungle fact check this conversation pls top mod.

[misty vector]

like soulseer/apex does fire, violet does fire, wilds mizu does fire

[arctic talon]

Burst arowana being common in the Scarlett forest is a good connection tbh

Idk

It’s fine lore wise imo

Gameplay wise it’s fine as well

[arctic talon]

Tbh Violet is a weirdo who uses oil

[humble shoal]

evberyone knows normal space marine chapters make massive blood towers

[misty vector]

just think its a bit of missed potential

[arctic talon]

Ig

[storm jungle]

Chapters do what they want as long as they dont piss off the worng people. YoU'd be amazed at what Astartes can get away with the right leverage or political standing.

[wet sandal]

Btw this applies to any entity in the imperium

[humble shoal]

not servitors

they cant do shit

[misty vector]

theres other cool stuff mizu could do, every variant is just different ways of fire lol

[humble shoal]

[wet sandal]

Well it's hard to define what they want

[dapper gyro]

Almost all "Adept" of the impetium can get away with shits.

[storm jungle]

So and so but yeah

[valid needle]

They’ll do what they are emperor damn told

[humble shoal]

space marines, custodes, and sisters of silence are mutants and should be purged

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but are there any space marine chapters that have two colours, but it's only the helmet that is different?

[humble shoal]

same with the so called emperor

[dapper gyro]

Space marines chapter can declare a world is lost if they don't want to fight for it, and no one would say shit.

[valid needle]

That’s bigoted, mutants have rights too.

[humble shoal]

abhor the mutant

[valid needle]

Mutant lives matter

[humble shoal]

yes

the masters of proteusn nnstuck their mask in piss

[dapper gyro]

Novamarines

[humble shoal]

apparently sons of medusa as well

found my new favorite chapter

[humble shoal]

the home invaders

[valid needle]

Yes, sons of dorn, very popular in the old days.

[humble shoal]

why did they mix the old and new styles

[valid needle]

A lot of chapters have been forgotten or not updated to Primaris.

[humble shoal]

old ones look better

[wet sandal]

Kill this guy, beat him to death with hammers

[humble shoal]

colors are more muted in the new ones

[wet sandal]

That's a good thing btw

[humble shoal]

and not enough skulls

[opaque coyote]

Fuck coolness

What Chapter is the most stupid

[humble shoal]

rainbow warriorsd

[opaque coyote]

Like not in terms of looks or whatever

I mean what chapter did the most dumb shit that sabotaged them

[humble shoal]

celestial lions

[opaque coyote]

What did they do

Ik lexicanum exists but I wanna see how you frame it

[humble shoal]

pissed off the inquisition

[opaque coyote]

Because funny

[opaque coyote]

Is it the Ork sniper one

[humble shoal]

yes

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that makes sense

[wet sandal]

Space wolves did the same but they're just built different

[young pecan]

If you count being unlucky, maybe the Lamenters?

[humble shoal]

there is a different between first founding

[opaque coyote]

I would count them because badab

[young pecan]

badab?

[opaque coyote]

Lamenters are half unlucky half "You literally could be in a better position if you just decided to be a bit more pragmatic"

[nocturne crest]

Okay, so an idea for an inspired space marine colour scheme could work.

[opaque coyote]

They were on Huron's side

[west pendant]

why is vermintide endtimes better than darktide?

[humble shoal]

its not

[opaque coyote]

Only realized that they were on the wrong side after all the other chapters turned to Chaos, and they got beaten by the Minotaurs

[humble shoal]

gotta put the position in context

they were outside the imperium

[opaque coyote]

It's the equivalent of like

Having all of your friends become like murderers while you're the only normal one

[humble shoal]

fighting alongside tons of people

who slowly turn without you realizing

[opaque coyote]

True, but it's still technically their fault rather than pure unluckiness

It is however very unfortunate

[young pecan]

holy shit

Also side note I fucking hate fandom.com

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it fucking sucks

[young pecan]

Every time I have to open it on my phone it loads fifty ads, ten popup ads, and freezes ts out of my phone

Navigating it is so slow as a result too

[opaque coyote]

Fandom should die

Honestly

Just fucking kill it

[wet sandal]

Holy shit, the fandom page is lore accurate for space marine lore (dogshit writing)

[opaque coyote]

It's sad cause there are some genuinely fascinating wikis with interesting communities

But fandom is so ass

[young pecan]

I would like to read more on Lamenters but I can't be bothered to deal with that site

Are there any other sites that won't stretch my balls trying to read about it

[opaque coyote]

Lexicanum

And

Lexicanum

[wet sandal]

Lexicanum

[young pecan]

Sick

I have yet to read in depth but I like the Lamenters because they're seemingly much kinder than other chapters

[wet sandal]

blacklibrary.com 5head

[young pecan]

Even more than muh good gai salamandas

But it's still grimdark for them because everything keeps fucking going wrong or they overextend

[valid needle]

Lowkey? Salamanders.

[humble shoal]

why, dont like killing eldar chiildren

my favorite salamanders are the black dragons

[wet sandal]

Any chapter that claims that they "are using the powers of the chaos gods, not the other way around"

Granted there's not that many actual chapters doing that, but the point stands

[humble shoal]

you mean like blood gorgons

iw

nl

al

[young pecan]

No bro they are only gifts, not strings

Trust

[crystal forum]

other wiki sites are slowly becoming more popular

[young pecan]

They are gifts given and used freely

[crystal forum]

it's common now that people start a second non fandom wiki for stuff

[sacred ginkgo]

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/indie-wiki-buddy/fkagelmloambgokoeokbpihmgpkbgbfm

[humble shoal]

nurgle gave me a second stomach so I can shit twice as much

[valid needle]

No they are just not very pragmatic. They would happily sacrifice 1000 guardsman to save 100 civilians, they are just stupid.

[wet sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[humble shoal]

ah lioke the marines malevolent

[young pecan]

Worship Nurgle just enough so your shit can effectively fertilize crops

Stop worshiping him with a will of steel

Live your life as a gardener

Ez

[humble shoal]

you will be a gardener

in the grandfathers garden

[wet sandal]

You claim to not worship nurgle, and yet you will die. Curious

[valid needle]

Yeah the marines malevolent are over hyped as evil. They are as evil as every chapter. They are pragmatic but of course meme lore will say they are evil sadists who are basically chaos but loyal.

[wet sandal]

Not really. Their writing is clearly trying to put an emphasis on their detachment from humanity, more so than other chapters

Most recently in Iron Kingdom I think

They just be killing people for very slight inconveniences

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-boondocks-bitch-this-chicken-is-cold-gif-4414134277801876099

bitch this chicken is cold

[wet sandal]

This one guardsman brushed against the handle of malevolent's sword in a crowded hallway and he just chopped him in half right then and there

[valid needle]

In iron kingdom?

[wet sandal]

Yes

[lament shoal]

A group of them were literally so pissed at the salamanders chapter master for beating up one of their captains that they sided with a chaos warband just to get revenge

[wet sandal]

don't get me wrong, memes are always at least in some way wrong about lore, but most of the time they start from somewhere real

[lament shoal]

They're so detached, even by space marine standards

[valid needle]

I mean Reynard is a piece of shit tho

[opaque coyote]

They do have bad luck but I think it's like

Half n half

[crystal forum]

classic 40k bit where "kind" people get shit on by the universe itself

[fossil arrow]

So I was just playing ogryn (brawler) and I had a dialogue happen where the veteran discussed how he felt about Rannick and the ogryn said "he gave me roasted rakka lung" and I tried looking it up, what is a rakka? I don't think it's in the Liber Xenologis or anything and I couldn't find anything off google

[wet sandal]

it's something not previously mentioned in lore i don't think

writers just be writing shit

[misty vector]

could be something local from tertium

[wet sandal]

yeah probably

every 40k writer has the right to invent their own replacement for "fuck" and create a new random farm animal

[humble shoal]

well its dan

dan gets to make tons of stuff up

[fossil arrow]

I see, thank you

[humble shoal]

love these guys, great proctologists

[lament shoal]

Pragmatism is their whole thing lol wdym

They would not do what you just described

[lament shoal]

Classic Black Legion cope

[valid needle]

No, I said they are hyped up as evil bad guys who just do evil because they love evil, when really they are just pragmatic.

Meme lore and such

[valid needle]

Wait

I was talking about salamanders here

[lament shoal]

Yeah lol

[valid needle]

Yeah marines malevolent are the pragmatists.

Where muh fish meme go😢

[storm jungle]

What fish meme

[valid needle]

I must have had bad signal

[storm jungle]

OH GOD

where the fuck- 💀

[rustic patrol]

FISH

[lofty cargo]

SO SAYETH BIG E

[outer wave]

Christ so much fish

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh my gods now that I know where the music is from it works so much better

[wintry cloud]

genuine question, arent all alpha legionnaires supposed to be clones of alpharius?

[dark moon]

If you mean as being look-a-likes to Alpharius, no, not in 40k. That was more so a 30k thing.

[wintry cloud]

okay. So they started recruiting across different worlds also I presume?

[dark moon]

Yeah

[daring creek]

This video is painful because the aftermath must be god fucking awful. That guy must feel so helpless

[arctic talon]

No not in 30k or 40k but Alpharius wanted as many to look identical to him as possible in 30k specifically.

[dapper gyro]

In 30k because he wanted it. In 40k because the legion wants to keep the meme going.

[storm jungle]

Racist.....

😔

[daring creek]

I knew this was gonna happen

[valid needle]

I know right💀

[wintry cloud]

hey HEY! I can ask questions

[valid needle]

Wait guys 😣

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[valid needle]

Mikeru is racist? What the heck😣

[wintry cloud]

always was.

i hate knife ears

[storm jungle]

I always knew the moment he donned that guard pfp 😔

[valid needle]

The imperium got another one😖

[wintry cloud]

dog your name is BROTHER corswain

[arctic talon]

💀

[wintry cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/anais-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-gumball-and-darwin-stantwitter-tweak-gif-738788760275822883

[valid needle]

Those “innocent” xeno worlds had it coming we all know it.

[storm jungle]

jokes aside this reminds me of when some guy was like

"If a black aspirant gets the raven guard geneseed do their skins turn white like Michael Jackson???"

😭 😭 😭 😭

[wintry cloud]

im crying

[outer wave]

Only if Joe Biden were the primarch

[storm jungle]

GOD

but yeah im pretty sure they'd just get a corpse-like shade so lol

[dapper gyro]

How about White Scars gene seeds?

[storm jungle]

That doesnt really have any racial genetic coding lmao

and as we see from artwork caucasian white scars are a thing alongside eastern looking ones

[dapper gyro]

Oh, so Asian is now under presented.

We can't even get a legion for ourselves. /s

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-cat-cat-my-honest-reaction-cat-with-the-hat-cat-in-the-hat-gif-25359607

[languid meadow]

eughhhh battletech was taken my brain over

I was about to say "play Draconis Combine"

[vagrant fox]

what the fuck is a white scar is it slang for a line of coke or something

[dire loom]

It's those biker Marines I think

[vagrant fox]

doomrider was so cool

[dapper gyro]

Yes and you should take more of it.

[outer wave]

Tbf the Hatamoto-Chi is so cool

[languid meadow]

It's so goofy it loops around into being cool

like the ATLAS

[outer wave]

The Atlas I think is just cool

Though I guess the deathmask is a bit silly

[languid meadow]

Black Knight is up there for me

[outer wave]

Generally cool for me has to be the Executioner

Just very cool design

[languid meadow]

Clan mechs are either pretty cool like the executioner or timber wolf or just ugly looking

omnimechs are such a hit or miss for me

[outer wave]

Gargoyle is very ugly but its a cool ugly for me

[languid meadow]

Dire Wolf is def one of my fav clan mech

but I still prefer battlemechs over omnimechs

[outer wave]

Ugliest for me miiiight be the Vapour Eagle; I dont like how the armor looks in comparison to the rest of the clan mechs

[outer wave]

For MWO, same tbh

God Im a big fan of the Stone Rhino

Very cool mobile artillery looking mech

[languid meadow]

I could never get into MWO sadly

most of the battletech video games I've played are the more single player ones

[outer wave]

Fair fair

I personally like MWO, even if alot of the builds rely on using side torsos instead of arms

[languid meadow]

really sucks that you cant get the other mechwarrior games on steam

[outer wave]

The community is also relatively chill for a PVP game

[outer wave]

Yeaaaaah

Not that Ive played 4 and the others

Ive played 5 and Clans

[languid meadow]

I mean yeah the battletech community is generally way more chill than other franchies that spawned from TT

Clans is cool if a bit fucking weird with difficulty scaling

mercs is fun but since it's so open it can get a bit repetitive but it takes a pretty long while before getting there

[outer wave]

Yeah thats my issue with Mercs, though I never played it modded

[queen laurel]

If we're talking battlemech then I'm a basic bitch and I have to go with the obvious monster

the Atlas

[languid meadow]

I really enjoy mercs

but then the clans invade

eugh

if you have SoK( I don't remember if they appear in vanilla) you're gonna get jumped by elementals

[languid meadow]

Atlas is very cool I love it

[outer wave]

I dont but I do know about the elementals

Pretty cool addition

Just hope that means the Gargoyle can run a squad of them inside itself

[languid meadow]

it's an experience seeing them go bananas

[queen laurel]

“ A 'Mech as powerful as possible, as impenetrable as possible, and as ugly and foreboding as conceivable, so that fear itself will be our ally.”
— Aleksandr Kerensky[7]

[languid meadow]

the goat

[queen laurel]

this thing is just armored behemoth of war and that's enough for me really

[rose thorn]

Who tf is buying those tiny replcia guns that cost as much as the gun it self

[tough haven]

Alright, I’m trying to create a Lancer character that’s basically a Cult Mechanicus adherent in a universe where there’s no such thing

Kinda like a princeps (yes I know a knight pilot is more appropriate but I like how princeps are better)

Thoughts? (I’ve never made a lancer character)

[rose thorn]

Makes sense

[tough haven]

And I have no clue what I’m doing lol

[rose thorn]

If Ordo maleus were ever to get more units what do you think they would be

[rose thorn]

Think battle tech crosses with gundum

[tough haven]

Oh I know what it is

Just none of the mechanics or lore

So I don’t know how a character like this would tie into the universe besides people thinking he’s insane

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/battletech-urbanmech-mechwarrior-urbie-gif-22274424

[tough haven]

Like this

[nocturne crest]

Where do the knights sit?

[tough haven]

In their throne

But uh In the middle of the spectrum

[arctic talon]

would be weird

in universe tbh

Could just have them venerate technology

[tough haven]

That’s what I’m going for

Got any tips?

[arctic talon]

What are you building the character as

what sort of person

[tough haven]

I’m gonna just make it a vague machine god

[tough haven]

Like as a character? Or like mechanics wise

[arctic talon]

As a character

also

there is a machine god

sorta in Lancer

Ra

Ra is the "creator" of all NHPs

and is pretty much all powerful and reality bending

[tough haven]

I’ll keep it vague so the characters and GM can assume whatever they want

[arctic talon]

alright

there are canonically Ra cultists

just an fyi

one art we have of them lol

ultimately if your character is obessesed with technology/the advancement of it

they'll likely take interest in Ra considering what Ra did/demanded humanity do

No studying Ra and no trying to become immortal by transfering your mind into a machine

[tough haven]

Holy shit it’s the Omnissiah

[arctic talon]

also yeah

Ra spawned on Mars

well the moon of mars rather lol

RA was accidently created by a paracausal prediction engine and should(technically) not exist

ultimately if you want weird machine gody stuff RA is in that ballpark

[tough haven]

I shall adhere to the tenets of the Omnissiah and exterminate any hereteks

[arctic talon]

Horus's stuff also is in that

Horus tech gets really paracausal

[tough haven]

I’ve put zero thought into it, just vague concept forming

[arctic talon]

ah

[tough haven]

Then work on it from there

[arctic talon]

your idea would work fine in that universe

if thats what you're asking

people will absolutely think you're a weirdo though

[tough haven]

That’s the goal

[arctic talon]

considering RA is kind of a horrifying eldritch monstrosity

[tough haven]

You’re gonna tell me the Machine God isn’t?

[arctic talon]

that makes anyone thats violating their laid out "treaties" with humanity

just vanish

after Deimos appears in orbit

[tough haven]

Oh so there aren’t people of that sort to hunt down

[arctic talon]

Well Ra hunts them down

[tough haven]

I was gonna make that his driving goal

[arctic talon]

humanity doesn't need to concern itself with the enforcement of the accords

since RA will do it itself

[tough haven]

Any like close loophole kinda things

[arctic talon]

Yes

[tough haven]

Where people violate in spirit but not in letter?

[arctic talon]

Could have your character go after that