they exist alongside each other
#40k-lore-chat
crystal forum
oh
crystal forum
i prefer how i picture them in my head then
lofty sedge
Thallax are basically human dreadnoughts
arctic talon
well
lofty sedge
So basically robots
arctic talon
they mutilate a person to shove in there
lol
They're more of a marine equivelent
tbh
Even got power armor
crystal forum
we love torment engines
lofty sedge
No, cuz the only thing left of a Thallax is their head and spinal cord
They have no torso/limbs
They're basically human minds implanted into a robot body
arctic talon
nervous system as well
crystal forum
every faction in the imperium has to have the "suffering torment unit"
arctic talon
you forgot the nervous system
lofty sedge
Spinal cord includes that
lofty sedge
Also, idk if they were suffering tbh
lofty sedge
30k tech was a bit different
crystal forum
this is admech we're talking about
crystal forum
ofc there's body horror
crystal forum
liberal
lofty sedge
It says they're emotionless idk
arctic talon
its a meme made from excerpts
but it also says they're in constant psychological breakdown
lol
vagrant fox
He looks happy so it's fine
arctic talon
hello random menial? would you like to fly?
crystal forum
random millenial
lofty sedge
"continous agony and psychological breakdown"
It does say it is alleviated by their lobotomy
crystal forum
a lobotomy doesn't make you immune to pain
in fact it doesn't touch that part of your brain at all
lofty sedge
They excised some of their emotional centers to reduce the pain
crystal forum
pain isn't an emotion!!!
crystal forum
i forgot which part of the brain has pain
but it's one of the baser ones
the primal part
vagrant fox
Bits here and there
lofty sedge
Hey man according to 40k writing, it is
vagrant fox
Whoever invented mahjong should suffer terribly
crystal forum
are you losing a game
vagrant fox
W/e don't lobotomise the idiots then the machine responds positively to suffering
vagrant fox
are you losing a game
I'm a temporarily embarrassed mahjong champion is all
crystal forum
I'm a temporarily embarrassed mahjong champion is all
you always seemed like a mahjong player
vagrant fox
Trying to learn so I can get destroyed in yakuza 0 is a dubious idea
I'm more of a minesweeper
vagrant fox
no thanks I haven't turned on my heating yet
crystal forum
L
crystal forum
this would kill a victorian child
arctic talon
vagrant fox
The arbites are so cool and wise
young pecan
What bastards the Arbites can be 
lofty sedge
What's that from
arctic talon
What's that from
Rogue trader dlc
lofty sedge
Noice
arctic talon
You can find it on the Arbite planet
arctic talon
Planetary cycles means days, right?
Yep
lament shoal
This is the reality that imperium glazers want
rose thorn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783433583816736820/1438341378370310154/gz...
once i finish gsc, i should probably get nids lmao
Welp returning to fallout 4, what faction should I align with first
dark moon
Welp returning to fallout 4, what faction should I align with first
Beeline the brotherhood questline for the free (nice looking) power armor, and then branch from there if you want. 
lament shoal
once i finish gsc, i should probably get nids lmao
U can play certain nid units with gsc in the same army as well if you wanted
Not limited to purestrains
rose thorn
U can play certain nid units with gsc in the same army as well if you wanted
I know lol
I just don’t wanna buy 2 codexes
nocturne crest
Welp returning to fallout 4, what faction should I align with first
Raiders
Do the nuka world dlc.
nocturne crest
Imagine if Jared Leto managed to make himself appear in the fallout tv show.
lofty cargo
Raiders for sure
opaque coyote
Do the nuka world dlc.
Nuka World is like
A microcosm of Bethesda's problems and virtues
Problems:
- the story being more hollow than my skull
- your choices don't matter nor does it include anything from the base game. What about the different factions from the base game?
- it's not like there's many choices anyways, there's only two endings
- the raider factions themselves are somehow less detailed than say... the unknown SM chapters in the depths of the lexicanum
sacred ginkgo
The furries
Playing with knives
Gun
opaque coyote
Virtues:
- Exploration itself is fun
- The side quests are actually really fun also
- New toys to play with
- It isn't... painful to go through the main quest line?
- water gun
sacred ginkgo
I remember the basic rifle being slightly goofy busted
opaque coyote
I remember the basic rifle being slightly goofy busted
Tbf anything is better than the Fallout 4 Assault Rifle
sacred ginkgo
The basic rifle just isn't good either
sacred ginkgo
Too heavy, gets outpaced before you find it, looks terrible
sacred ginkgo
Yeah but it's less painful to look at
No I mean the base game one
opaque coyote
Ah
sacred ginkgo
The nuka world AK was hilarious
opaque coyote
Yeah nah it's ugly as sin
sacred ginkgo
Bolt action damage in semi
opaque coyote
Like even if it was decent balance wise
I just
I just don't like how it looks
It looks so ugly
For fucks sake NV had the BAR just use that
Or the G3 from Fallout 3
Why is the only automatic rifle a fucking WW1 based lmg
opaque coyote
Bolt action damage in semi
Also Nuka World has a western revolver
Kinda strange given that there's already a .44 magnum
But hey it's fun
Seriously would've been an opportunity to implement the 12.7 mm pistol from FNV
Or just a Deagle
sour hornet
I'm a temporarily embarrassed mahjong champion is all
every disgraced mahjong champion quits right before they win their earnings back
remote wadi
Guys what souls like game would you recommend to bow players
(for context I already done all fromsoft games with bow only except sekiro)
opaque coyote
Guys what souls like game would you recommend to bow players
... honestly
Dark Souls 2
You can dual wield crossbows
And use them at the same time
A popular pvp build, although it got nerfed, was to use two Avelyns
opaque coyote
Ok I will try the double crossbow
It requires NG+ to get two Avelyns which is unfortunate though
Oh no wait
You can farm it to get a second one
Would take a while though
opaque coyote
Ok I will try the double crossbow
But yeah it's a genuine option
Dark Souls 2 is easily the wildest game in terms of what you can do tbh
You can do some truly demented bullshit
The saddest part about Elden Ring was that Powerstancing was kinda nerfed to shit in comparison to DS2
Which is sad because again
DS2 Powerstancing was fun as FUCK
remote wadi
Noice
mossy peak
Guys what souls like game would you recommend to bow players
lies of p
paper haven
The guns in Fallout 4 make the game unplayable to me
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> peak.
Like i said i dont care if its small interactable cutscenes mostly, its the execution that counts, pure cinema
surreal nest
https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-1...
||they look fucking identical robert|| is the best delivered line ever
arctic talon
||they look fucking identical robert|| is the best delivered line ever
Real
sly zenith
||they look fucking identical robert|| is the best delivered line ever
Yeah
Meme potential
crystal forum
Gimme your worst lore take
autoguns are cooler than lasguns
celest cedar
||they look fucking identical robert|| is the best delivered line ever
spoiler || I got Visi turning evil as my 1st walkthrough ending 💀 ||
I replayed the new episodes 4 times today
burnt maple
How the fuck did you manage that.
queen laurel
spoiler || I got Visi turning evil as my 1st walkthrough ending 💀 ||
|| what's your Robert's title? I got true hero||
celest cedar
|| what's your Robert's title? I got true hero||
|| I got true hero and everyman ||
I dont think it really matters ngl
celest cedar
How the fuck did you manage that.
multiple salves
valid needle
Gimme your worst lore take
Leandros was wrong
Chaos gods aren’t evil
Emperor isn’t a god
The imperium isn’t also evil
All the good ones
Oh another one
Nurgle is the best chaos god to be a slave for
valid needle
Nurgle doesn’t love anyone
That’s just the mind control telling you everything is ok
Clearly khorne is the best
Just kill mfs you’ll be fine
Don’t get volunteered for nails
Ez pz
shadow plover
Most of these sure are bad takes, almost like being contrarian in the sake of being a contrarian
valid needle
He asked for the best worst takes
Another
Nids aren’t evil because they are hungry
Mf Hannibal lector wasn’t evil he was just hungry
sly zenith
Yeah nids are evil lmao
Never heard that one
There is a variant of tyranid that can feel pleasure and hate. And it does things that could be considered sadistic
valid needle
If Nids were truly dumb animals they wouldn’t be able to outsmart and overrun most of the galaxies factions
valid needle
Never heard that one
You always get fans who deny their factions evil acts to take the moral high ground
Like imperium fans saying we’re not also evil
We just do evil cooler
Or chaos fans who say chaos aren’t evil because they know nothing else bar their assigned emotion
sly zenith
humble shoal
||they look fucking identical robert|| is the best delivered line ever
my fist, my imprial fist
hallow saddle
have they told us what the new class is yet
hallow saddle
hello rejects, we're pleased to announce that the new class is X, a [verb] class that specializes in Y. full trailer reveal and marketing material will drop next week!
is that so hard
wintry cloud
Gimme your worst lore take
Chaos gods aren’t actually evil /s
hardy knot
Me when the mirrornof the universe.of death.and destruction shows death.and destruction
wintry cloud
Yeah bro, truth is they’re just human consciousness so they’re actually a neutral force /s
hardy knot
Yeah bro, truth is they’re just human consciousness so they’re actually a neutra...
Eh, its more like the universe is a chain smoker and the warp is cancer
spring cairn
near wasp
The orks aren't evil they are just having a good time
spring cairn
ik it's probably because the miniature was like that but poor Aislinn just looks like a generic HE lord tbh
bro is not standing out
crystal forum
who's excited for the new valve hardware
crystal forum
i was waiting for the VR
wintry cloud
Might be interested in the controller
If its better than my ps5 one i may try it
near wasp
Can't wait to play TF2 at 20 fps
hallow plover
Steam gamecube looks nice but i'll just dock my deck on my tv
crystal forum
looks like they took a page from the aftermarket quest 3 head straps
spring cairn
and made it better
valid needle
The orks aren't evil they are just having a good time
Serial killers are having a good time, so they aren’t evil?
crystal forum
it looks much comfier than the standard quest 3 strap
hallow plover
I dread the prices
hallow plover
Yea but will it be affected by tariffs
My maple bucks can't get much american things these days
crystal forum
also it was expected for the new headset to be standalone since that's where the market is right now. direct to PC cable is dead
spring cairn
steam machine looks v good too but i'm more after SteamOS
would love to get that separately for my pc
sly zenith
The orks aren't evil they are just having a good time
Wait till you see what they do to humans
Mentally breaking them. Holding them in cells to be used like cattle
It’s the meet the pyro trailer basically
valid needle
Truly evil brother 😣
sly zenith
My maple bucks can't get much american things these days
Joke money lol
valid needle
#justiceForTheImperium
crystal forum
also there's something weird mentioned in the ad about the frame
sly zenith
What?
wintry cloud
Ligma
near wasp
I wasn't being serious guys
crystal forum
"new technology allows for the highest resolution streaming where your eyes are looking"
wintry cloud
I wasn't being serious guys
That’s why i put the /s
sly zenith
Lmao
crystal forum
so the headset adapts to where you're looking or something?
at least this means it has eye tracking
sly zenith
No it’s probably a joke
wintry cloud
so the headset adapts to where you're looking or something?
Gonna be great for onlyfans subscribers
sly zenith
You know what else adapts to where you look
wintry cloud
What
sly zenith
MY MOM
hallow plover
sly zenith
(She’s a pile of ash)
valid needle
That’s why i put the /s
I don’t understand new age emojis my apologies.
sly zenith
I don’t understand new age emojis my apologies.
It means sarcasm
wintry cloud
/s just means sarcasm or sike
crystal forum
seems like some sort of proprietary valve thing since i never heard of a headset changing resolution based on eye movement
crystal forum
i wonder how quick the response will be
sly zenith
Why would joke about that
wintry cloud
Cuz u guys are cool so far
sly zenith
Hating everyone here would be the most reasonable thing you could say
near wasp
True
wintry cloud
Nah I be chillin
spring cairn
i wonder how quick the response will be
according to reviews it's the most responsive headset out there
crystal forum
wintry cloud
according to reviews it's the most responsive headset out there
I can now simulate a IRL car crash with the headset
I may have to buy
valid needle
Hating everyone here would be the most reasonable thing you could say
DA pfps excluded of course
sly zenith
Yeah
crystal forum
this could be huge if true
wintry cloud
Big if true
sly zenith
Furry /anime PFP included
hallow plover
This is valve hardware true endgame
wintry cloud
This is valve hardware true endgame
crystal forum
valve always tries to do something different from the competition and this eye tracking thing might be it
near wasp
Valve headsets just a headcrab they ship to your house
wintry cloud
I clicked on your profile and got flashbanged
Anytime
valid needle
Furry /anime PFP included
How bro must have felt saying this
sly zenith
Oh how come I don’t get image perms
near wasp
Oh how come I don’t get image perms
Because you haven't been around long enough
noble seal
Oh how come I don’t get image perms
You need to chat more, brother. Then, when you are red, we can send images.
wintry cloud
Oh how come I don’t get image perms
You just gotta lock in
near wasp
When you get read name you get perms
spring cairn
the new valve controller also looks great
sly zenith
Because you haven't been around long enough
Oh what worried I’m gonna say the most unfiltered, vile heretical stuff possible
crystal forum
those middle finger buttons are not fun to use with my messed up finger
near wasp
Yes
valid needle
Oh how come I don’t get image perms
You need to prove you are at least mildly sane and can be trusted not to spam the N-Word first
near wasp
It's happened before especially with space marine pfp
valid needle
That’s racist
sly zenith
You need to prove you are at least mildly sane and can be trusted not to spam th...
There are far more interesting words to spam
wintry cloud
Dudes actually join and spam the N word?
valid needle
And yet so admittedly true
near wasp
It's observation
sly zenith
I’m gonna spam vague and obscure words that aren’t vulgur that I think are cool
wintry cloud
When Jay puts that thing on we will never see him again
valid needle
It's observation
They got that imperium dawg in dem I guess
sly zenith
Gotta go get my dictionary brb
wintry cloud
i will definitely be selling my quest 3
“Where has Jay been”
“Oh the dude has a new family in his headset”
valid needle
I will sell my skibidi rizz for this but I will not skibidi my rizz.
near wasp
I might use this as an opportunity to buy an old quest 3 and buy a good battery
crystal forum
it's less setup too !
the setup with meta is soooo annoying
i have to go through meta then link to my PC
crystal forum
and meta just keeps having issues with my PC
spring cairn
I was more talking about the sensors you have to put in the corners of ur room but i get it
crystal forum
i dont fucking use the meta UI at all it sucks so much
crystal forum
I was more talking about the sensors you have to put in the corners of ur room b...
did index have that?
spring cairn
yeah
crystal forum
that hasnt been a thing for a while
current VR just scans your room with cameras on the headset
which also lets you do augmented reality stuff
spring cairn
valve index is top quality but the setup is basically ur entire room
spring cairn
holds up if you don't factor the setup imo
crystal forum
well it cant work standalone
it has to be connected to a cable
that's pretty ancient
even though i barely use my headset without being connected to my PC, it helps a lot with moving around the room when i need to do stuff without having to remove the whole headset
oh also
this is interesting
with the quest 3 you cant really do much if you're in a room that's not fully illuminated because the cameras cant scan
IR illuminators means this headset could function in a completely dark room maybe
good for spooky experiences
yup
wintry cloud
This little energon cube being a console is actually cool
wintry cloud
Looks really easy and plug and play
I do want that controller the most though since i already have a PC
crystal forum
CPU of the frame
CPU of meta 3
some pretty good improvements over the meta 3
so standalone it will be even better
not that steam users will use it often that way since standalone graphics suck ass
VR chat is borderline unplayable without a PC connection just because of all the huge player models
you could get a total of 2TB of storage if you get the 1TB internal storage and a 1TB micro sd which is fucking insane
plus of course you could quickly switch out the micro SD's if you want to divide your entire library into a couple of SD's
this headset is really going to be the best on the market if valve delivers
definitely blows away the meta quest 3
though it probably wont be cheaper than the quest 3S
meta has been focusing way more on making VR accessible recently
median star
always love when these companies announce some new hardware then just wait like 9 gorrilion years to actually say the price
like um
explode
rocky gale
https://tenor.com/view/trazyn-the-infinite-warhammer-40k-gif-2805012756110263063
Me looking at my latest Warhammer purchase (I will put it on a shelf and forget about it like the others)
plush mason
dapper gyro
https://youtu.be/tgeJS_4xpLQ
To bring to the light of truth to the blinds, it requires great sacrifice.
storm jungle
Ironically goes hard
wintry cloud
https://youtu.be/tgeJS_4xpLQ
Wait this passed my feed four times but i never read the thumbnail
Hats off to him tho
He got balls
wintry cloud
https://youtu.be/tgeJS_4xpLQ
Is this a chud mob or a woke mob thing?
Cause i hear this and that on whether or not sallys are black coded
I am aware different ethnic coding can and has been in this specific legion, and that they aren’t all black coded
Like the tithes guy had asian facial features
storm jungle
Is this a chud mob or a woke mob thing?
Cause i hear this and that on whether ...
Its mostly the unawares opinion of
"Well Salamanders are african/black obviously, their skin IS fully dark."
vs the actual answer of:
"They don't have an ethicity, the geneseed just makes their skin volcanic charcoal"
Also yeah Sallies have multiple ethnicities in modern artworks, african-american, asian, caucasian etc
limpid granite
they can be ethnically caucasian black asian south american but their skin is charcoal black
look at vulkan hes ethnically black
storm jungle
That ditto yeah, they themselves arent african lol
people just misjudge it by jumping to that conclusion due to the charcoal skin
storm jungle
Wait this passed my feed four times but i never read the thumbnail
Its a nice vid so far, goes down the rabbithole of Salamanders' whole volcanic skin schtick while also exploring the early eras of "Everyone in 40k was just generally white" lol
dapper gyro
If you join the RG, you will be white doesn't matter what.
storm jungle
Kinda, im pretty sure if you got a darker skintone you just get a more corpse-like shade
dapper gyro
The geneseed are aggressive.
vagrant fox
It's a pretty good video, I just finished it
wintry cloud
Ill watch
I will admit
I do like being represented in media
I hate to admit it cause it causes sooooooo many issues
Love this so much
plush mason
Its a nice vid so far, goes down the rabbithole of Salamanders' whole volcanic s...
you mean a British company in the 80s had most of the people in it's fictional setting be white? who could have guessed that /s
plush mason
https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-running-run-leave-quick-gif-25686144
ngl i just noticed they have the old KKK hoods
literally just a white sack before they started mocking the Catholics
storm jungle
Lmao yeah tho its modelled after their white supremacist supervillain leader the White Dragon
plush mason
lmao ofc he calls himself a dragon
wintry cloud
https://youtu.be/tgeJS_4xpLQ
This video is very good
Definitely has a point if these guys are the “token” black faction then every other faction really is just white
As per usual its a conglomerate of a trillion worlds, so they aren’t limited to any race or coding.
near wasp
Also yeah Sallies have multiple ethnicities in modern artworks, african-american...
I'm pretty sure Sakan in the tithes episode is Asian.
near wasp
This video is very good
Definitely has a point if these guys are the “token” bla...
What's really funny is that terra doesn't even have distinct skin colors anymore it's all just turned into one color they call terran grey
plush mason
yup
what living in the dark and squaller of a mega city the size of a planet does too you
storm jungle
I'm pretty sure Sakan in the tithes episode is Asian.
Yep he is
storm jungle
This video is very good
Definitely has a point if these guys are the “token” bla...
Agreed yeah, i was delighted to see 10m of this was about Sallies and the rest of the 20m was just covering the awkward topic of how un-diversity GW was back in the day lol
near wasp
Idk why but I kinda get tibettian monk vibes from him
near wasp
Yes! Exactly what I was thinking about
storm jungle
plush mason
https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-pistolpete2458-pistolpete-pistol-pete-shaolin-g...
ah for honor
near wasp
It will surprise nobody here when I say I was a lawbringer main
plush mason
i went from nobushi to warden to warmonger lmao
near wasp
I sided played nobushi
plush mason
i only liked her wwhen the bleed pokes where the main thing
surreal nest
https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-pistolpete2458-pistolpete-pistol-pete-shaolin-g...
Posting for honor around me is like taking a shot next to a recovering alcoholic leave me alone
surreal nest
That game actually consumed my high school life it was insane I had like 4K hours
near wasp
Me but with ark survival
near wasp
Played both those for a while
near wasp
I played Conan on a private server and rust on a roleplay server xD
Tarkov though played like 2500 hours
storm jungle
Posting for honor around me is like taking a shot next to a recovering alcoholic...
no, die
plush mason
ugh conan exiles, rip age of conan
surreal nest
Rest in feces and annihilation
winged jacinth
When i played rust my group built a colloseum, sleeping bag kidnapped people into it, and made them fight
I think there's still clips on yt
surreal nest
When i played rust my group built a colloseum, sleeping bag kidnapped people int...
I made shit smoothies and lived in a swamp and just took people hostage
plush mason
isnt that like one of the most common things to do in rust? right up there will booby-trapping people's bases
surreal nest
Then I tried to make a boat prison and haunt the seas
near wasp
I kidnapped people in ark
winged jacinth
We had grander ambitions and when you've got a dozen people you get to run the server
plush mason
i see
surreal nest
If anybody here still plays rust please kidnap and torture krieg cosmetic owners
near wasp
I got driven from sooo many servers by mega tribes. I was on there personal shitlist
near wasp
If anybody here still plays rust please kidnap and torture krieg cosmetic owners
I'll reinstall just for that
surreal nest
near wasp
Who's to say I haven't
languid meadow
Bro is fiending
neat zenith
languid meadow
glad they're doing something interesting with BoS in the show
winged jacinth
Honestly any treatment for the brotherhood is more interesting than how bethesda does them
Even fnv's "but we LIKE living in the hole" group
languid meadow
Fo1 and 2s were the most interesting imo
and the conflict in 3 was also cool glad they're doing that again
prime seal
Honestly any treatment for the brotherhood is more interesting than how bethesda...
they were never meant to become a major faction again
prime seal
Fo1 and 2s were the most interesting imo
bro in f2 the brotherhood of steel is mega minor
"yeah we exist and we support the ncr"
bos involvement in f2 in a nutshell
languid meadow
they were a driving force behind the NCRs tech development and recruited openly which was their true mission
that's peak BoS
prime seal
thats background information their actual presence in the game itself is mega minor
prime seal
they dont even have a questline
prime seal
mfs when the story is laid out in front of them and they need to look closer
do you they think they have a bigger presence in 2 than say vault city?
storm jungle
mfs when the story is laid out in front of them and they need to look closer
Fallout fans should all be thrown in the acidic pits imo but thats just me
prime seal
fallout 2 integrates older events and emergent organisations really well
languid meadow
do you they think they have a bigger presence in 2 than say vault city?
they don't need presence to be the best depiction of them
that's the POINT
prime seal
i dont like the way both the ncr and bos handle business in new vegas
prime seal
they don't need presence to be the best depiction of them
the best depiction of them is one where they're barely in it?
the best depiction of the bos is 1
that i agree, but in 2 they just sort of exist. you get the plans for the vertibird from them then you fuck off
crystal forum
Even fnv's "but we LIKE living in the hole" group
the mojave chapter is similar to fallout 1's brotherhood when you think about it
except even more isolated
languid meadow
the best depiction of them is one where they're barely in it?
because that's the point of the BoS their goal was to hoard tech then help people rebuild, they were never supposed to be a big force.
that's why it's peak
crystal forum
the whole "help people rebuild" part about them is largely created by bethesda
prime seal
because that's the point of the BoS their goal was to hoard tech then help peopl...
i agree but its not the best depiction of them merely because they're barely in the fucking game
crystal forum
in the original games they hate outsiders
in fact they go to war with the NCR over it
and they lose
they're more tolerant in 2 but still assholes
anyways fallout should not fucking be about the BOS
languid meadow
they don't go to war over outsiders since they've been openly recruiting for decades at that point
they go to war because the NCR started taking all the enclave tech and the BoS hey wait a min that's our shit
prime seal
they don't go to war over outsiders since they've been openly recruiting for dec...
they dont go to war with outsiders because the one time they tried they got blown the fuck out
the period of cooperation between the 2 started after that
they got humbled
languid meadow
that's not what sentence means but ok
crystal forum
they go to war because the NCR started taking all the enclave tech and the BoS h...
yeah because they hate outsiders. it's part of the reason they want the tech, it's because they think outsiders can't handle it
storm jungle
languid meadow
the NCR/BoS war starts AFTER Fo2 when they were already working together
crystal forum
did it?
languid meadow
YES
crystal forum
my timeline might be a bit mixed up
prime seal
yeah because they hate outsiders. it's part of the reason they want the tech, it...
which is why by moral obbligation you should frame one go in their bunker and kill everyone
languid meadow
That's the whole reason the Mojave chapter is hiding
is because the BoS and NCR are at war during the time
crystal forum
anyways i don't like how "good" they have become
languid meadow
prime seal
fax its the opposite of what i said i thought i had it mixed up but i had the mix up mixed up
wtf
crystal forum
i expect fallout 5 to be mainly about BOS
winged jacinth
They've apparently conquered and basically recivilized the east coast which is a big pivot from the fuck you got mine technohoarders they were
languid meadow
they're not even good in Fo4 they're closer to one with a mix of 2
prime seal
i expect fallout 5 to be mainly about BOS
fallout 4 again?
prime seal
unironically yeah ffs lmfao
languid meadow
yeah they'll help but they ain't building shit outside of their main base in the capitol
prime seal
even 3 is about the bos
crystal forum
which is just itself a redo of 3
shadow plover
y'all gotta stop playing bethesda games
crystal forum
they're not even good in Fo4 they're closer to one with a mix of 2
they're treated as noble and shit stop it
in 1 they literally send you to go die the moment you meet them
winged jacinth
Where did the bos get the industrial base to build the prydwen anyway (and i think it has sister ships too)
prime seal
y'all gotta stop playing bethesda games
morrowind is top 5 best western rpgs ever made
crystal forum
like it's not comparable
languid meadow
But they're not???? they're hella racist and one of the quests you can complete by fucking robbing wastelanders
shadow plover
morrowind is top 5 best western rpgs ever made
Debatable but also not included in what I meant, you just shouldn't play anything they release anymore
winged jacinth
they're treated as noble and shit stop it
The BoS are like real knights (petty nobles who hoard power and hate commoners)
storm jungle
SNITCH
prime seal
Debatable but also not included in what I meant, you just shouldn't play anythin...
didn't play starfield
winged jacinth
didn't play starfield
Didnt miss anything
valid needle
Where did the bos get the industrial base to build the prydwen anyway (and i thi...
Adam’s airforce base
crystal forum
But they're not???? they're hella racist and one of the quests you can complete ...
they're literally still treated as the savior of the wasteland with bad parts and stuff. not the irredeemable pieces of shit they are in 1
winged jacinth
airforce bases cant even build planes
prime seal
Didnt miss anything
i was gonna buy the special but last second i felt the games evil aura
winged jacinth
much less giant rigid airships
storm jungle
i was gonna buy the special but last second i felt the games evil aura
lmao
shadow plover
I really hope whatever they release next flops so hard they finally realise their games are the worst
valid needle
But they're not???? they're hella racist and one of the quests you can complete ...
If you mean the one the proctor gives you, that was off the books
storm jungle
I really hope whatever they release next flops so hard they finally realise thei...
Skyrim?
or whatever that new game is
Elder Mimircrolls
shadow plover
next new game
shadow plover
People should have realized with original skyrim but alas
humble shoal
Elder Mimircrolls
Eldar SweetRolls
winged jacinth
didn't play starfield
i lied the one thing you missed was how bad todd howard doesnt understand why bethesdas previous games were enjoyable
storm jungle
you're not allowed to laugh at my jokes
I wasnt laughing at your jokes, I was laughing at you considering even buying Shitfield
crystal forum
elder maxson is very fucking clearly meant to be a flawed good person i hate how sigma he looks
storm jungle
says a lot honestly
storm jungle
elder maxson is very fucking clearly meant to be a flawed good person i hate how...
more like Elder Coatson
now hand it over
prime seal
i lied the one thing you missed was how bad todd howard doesnt understand why be...
he's not actually a good designer
storm jungle
wait
languid meadow
If you mean the one the proctor gives you, that was off the books
Yeah that doesn't disprove my point, the fact that high ranking people in the brotherhood will still resort to it still shows they're assholes to a certain degree
storm jungle
Howard is not a good developer?
languid meadow
they're not the same brotherhood from 3
winged jacinth
more like Elder Coatson
he really is dripped out
storm jungle
that cant be right....................
wintry cloud
Wheres dilara
storm jungle
languid meadow
they're literally still treated as the savior of the wasteland with bad parts an...
they're not even irredeemable in one
languid meadow
they're assholes but not evil
storm jungle
also he looks like the Rock here i hate it
valid needle
they're not the same brotherhood from 3
Well of course. 3s brotherhood was excommunicated by lost hills
But
crystal forum
Yeah that doesn't disprove my point, the fact that high ranking people in the br...
again not comparable to 1 where they straight up want you to die
languid meadow
if you want a true evil brotherhood tactics has it
valid needle
Power armour cool so who cares
storm jungle
anyway you fallout fans go back to killing each other i must watch from a safe distance
prime seal
they're assholes but not evil
what was the first thing they make you do in 1 again
valid needle
anyway you fallout fans go back to killing each other i must watch from a safe d...
I WILL Dilara
Infact
crystal forum
what was the first thing they make you do in 1 again
ask you to go die!!!!
humble shoal
Fallout is in the snowpiercer universe right
valid needle
I’m gonna say it
winged jacinth
the thing about starfield (ive given this schpiel 1000 places but not here i think) is that beth open world games thrived on the gameplay cycle of "you're at A and sent to B but along the way you find C which tells you about D" and they cut out the entire concept lol
languid meadow
Ok let me try to explain this to you before your soft spot collapses
valid needle
I am gonna say it
prime seal
ask you to go die!!!!
idk sounds kind of evil
valid needle
Enclave did nothing wrong.
crystal forum
they straight up did not intend you to survive, like they expected you to die. idk how more clear i can make it
languid meadow
EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE GLOW AND HOW IT IS DANGEROUS, they don't expect you to even TRY and do the task. It is not their fault we are insane and don't really know about the glow
prime seal
EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE GLOW AND HOW IT IS DANGEROUS, they don't expect you to ...
"everyone knows"
tf
no?
crystal forum
they literally talk to you like you're a moron
languid meadow
it's like saying "hey get my shit from a volcano" of course you're not gonna do it
they know no one is stupid enough to try
or insane enough
prime seal
they literally talk to you like you're a moron
reminder that the game acknowledges if youre actually a moron
valid needle
Shouldn’t you be banging rocks together local
prime seal
https://youtu.be/tNaVjni0GWk?si=0GjBCDAyQNhllQuS
voice director cooked
crystal forum
i love the cheek thing he does after giving you the quest
like "oh boy"
clay models are so cool
languid meadow
he doesn't even expect you to try, you can ask around the wasteland about the area and they'll be like "shit is dangerous don't go there" again they are assholes but not evil. Because he expects you to know about the place already.
like im not gonna say they ain't pricks
they are
but not evil
prime seal
"go kill yourself"
-a not very evil asshole
crystal forum
they don't even want anything to do with you unless you do the crazy task and prove yourself useful
also isn't it crazy how much fallout lore comes directly from 1
like that game created everything
prime seal
how is it crazy?
storm jungle
but not evil
whats wrong with being evil
languid meadow
nothing
crystal forum
how is it crazy?
it's such an original setting
storm jungle
Aw man 😔
prime seal
it's such an original setting
true it was a very big collaborative effort
crystal forum
just really good worldbuilding
prime seal
all the writers got to do their thing
languid meadow
I still think 1 is better than 2 in most aspects
prime seal
I still think 1 is better than 2 in most aspects
they're really different
2 plays better
crystal forum
i dont like comparing 1 and 2 because i like both
though 2 has better gameplay
and more variety
languid meadow
yeah gameplay wise 2 is better but I think 2 just feels like it tries to hard comedy wise but it can be really funny
prime seal
and theres more stuff you can do and you can go about doing things with more options
crystal forum
also something the fallout games forgot with 3 is how much it's inspired by mad max
prime seal
first game with gay marriage was f2
crystal forum
there's tons of mad max looking vehicles in 1 and 2
and ofc tactics
3 must have ignored that because the engine couldn't handle vehicles
so now we have no mad max stuff at all in the setting
languid meadow
the engine could barely handle the capital wasteland so yeah it would explode if more than just vertibirds were around
prime seal
3 must have ignored that because the engine couldn't handle vehicles
the game also has fast travel and the map design isnt accomodating for a car
crystal forum
it could have been accommodating for cars if the engine could handle it
but the engine is picked before the game is even designed
prime seal
idk i still think we wouldnt get a car due to a game design issue
a faster on foot option would have been better either way
because f3 sucks at directing you toward the cool stuff
near wasp
At this point walking around is the fallout vibe
crystal forum
it would have been a ton of work to make it all work
with cars
4 maybe could have had a car system if the power armor wasn't so prominent
crystal forum
and when you think about it power armor in 4 is like a car system
the customization and stuff
you even had greasers lol
languid meadow
I forgot the hellcat company existed
prime seal
houses like in minecraft
crystal forum
lol
near wasp
I wish I could get the hellcat random encounter again
crystal forum
houses like in minecraft
the disappointment of building defenses only for them to never be used
near wasp
Only gotten it once
languid meadow
Wait no it's the Atom Cats in Fo4
Hellcats are a mercenary company in Fo76 which is a bunch of old US army
opaque coyote
prime seal
the disappointment of building defenses only for them to never be used
the overseer simulator was worse
the f4 vaults are soulless
vagrant fox
should've written the gabencube smh
prime seal
should've written the gabencube smh
take the n off
crystal forum
oh yeah fallout 4 had a criminal lack of good vaults
which is so weird considering how vaults are like THE iconic fallout dungeon
opaque coyote
the disappointment of building defenses only for them to never be used
The worst part is that the defenses are useless primarily because of
You guessed it
Bethesda jank!
languid meadow
I think the only good was lord of the flies one
opaque coyote
Because they decided to put the invaders
languid meadow
I wish we got that underwater vault
crystal forum
cancelled because it might have been cool
opaque coyote
Into the middle of your civilization
opaque coyote
cancelled because it might have been cool
And also would've been hard to program in
languid meadow
I think the only good was lord of the flies one
because it's the origin of the coolest sub faciton in the game that gets nothing
opaque coyote
But also
languid meadow
the gunners
opaque coyote
Yeah
prime seal
cancelled because it might have been cool
todd howard was there to make sure it was mid
if its not mid enough into the trash it goes
opaque coyote
todd howard was there to make sure it was mid
Todd Howard leaps into the development room
He immediately uses a sledgehammer against the drive
vagrant fox
There was supposed to be that underwater vault but it got scrapped, some big underwater creature too
crystal forum
And also would've been hard to program in
it was like halfway done
opaque coyote
"Oh thank god... I thought it was good"
crystal forum
there's a ton of leftover files
vagrant fox
o yea
crystal forum
again if they just didnt fucking make settlements we could have had this kind of stuff
languid meadow
if there is one thing every fallout game fumbles it's the merc companies
crystal forum
they must have wasted so much time making buildable shit
opaque coyote
Into the middle of your civilization
Seriously though wtf
Like
Walls are useless
Because they literally just teleport through it
spring cairn
the biggest fumble of fallout games (not including 1 and 2) is that they're made by bethesda
prime seal
the biggest fumble of fallout games (not including 1 and 2) is that they're made...
bethesda didnt make Peak of Steel
languid meadow
Literally not made by Bethesda only published
New vegas was partially made by Bethesda since they made most of the assets and engine
spring cairn
NV is decent but I can still smell the bethesda cuz what said above
therefore
i look down upon it with my superior eyes
crystal forum
i dont like how boston was made
prime seal
interplay straight up stole the snowblind engine just to make a bad game
spring cairn
total bethesda death
vagrant fox
I do wonder what's happened with Bethesda, they made kind of mid but kind of fun games but after Starfield boy do I wonder if all the talent has just left
spring cairn
they made 1 game
surreal nest
I do wonder what's happened with Bethesda, they made kind of mid but kind of fun...
Im gonna splash cold water on your face
surreal nest
Bethesda was never good
opaque coyote
Interplay after Fo2 kind of sucks
True
vagrant fox
I didn't say good anyways
spring cairn
actually morrowind was p kino
vagrant fox
Morrowind is kino but that's despite the engine
prime seal
Interplay after Fo2 kind of sucks
dark alliance
opaque coyote
Bethesda was never good
It was
But it lasted a very very VERY short time. Ended at oblivion
spring cairn
you dumb N'wah
prime seal
both of them
surreal nest
actually morrowind was p kino
It was good because back then people could only play with rocks
surreal nest
It was
But it lasted a very very VERY short time. Ended at oblivion
I accept that oblivion was decent
vagrant fox
i do not
spring cairn
i don't either
crystal forum
Interplay after Fo2 kind of sucks
they made a TON of games. most of which i havent played lol
vagrant fox
Well it's decent when you're a child
opaque coyote
It was good because back then people could only play with rocks
Morrowwind was pretty mechanically deep compared to the next two elder scrolls ngl
prime seal
Morrowwind was pretty mechanically deep compared to the next two elder scrolls n...
Daggerfall is even more mechanically deep
spring cairn
after morrowing the lore fell offf therefore i hate the games
languid meadow
they shut down in 2006
prime seal
lol
prime seal
after morrowing the lore fell offf therefore i hate the games
it didnt
crystal forum
nah they're alive
opaque coyote
after morrowing the lore fell offf therefore i hate the games
It is peak for one reason.
Lusty Argonian Maid
spring cairn
it diddd
prime seal
skyrim and oblivion are full of fantastic additions to the lore
prime seal
the deadric realms arent ever fully fleshed out in morrowind
most of the worldbuilding comes from oblivion
languid meadow
well you only really see two iirc
crystal forum
anyways all the good talent at interplay left for obsidian and deep silver
spring cairn
no the dlc was kinda cool but still
with tentacle man
but still
they butchered the nords
opaque coyote
skyrim is a crime scene
Hottest take I have.
I think Bethesda should bite the bullet. Embrace the meme.
Do a full remake of Skyrim.
I wanna see a better version of the civil war quest line.
crystal forum
bethesda should just die so elder scrolls and fallout can go to more competent hands
prime seal
well you only really see two iirc
the deadra realms are infinite in dimensionality, you cant properly adapt them in a videogame
elder scrolls lore is something you dont get to experience playing the game
crystal forum
at this point bethesda is just sitting on elder scrolls lol
opaque coyote
bethesda should just die so i don't have to see Todd anymore
Who's laughing now?
languid meadow
while true you only really see two main ones in oblivion, and I think 3(?) in skyrim
languid meadow
some of his stuff is cool some of it is not
prime seal
c0da was a massively interesting read
languid meadow
ok bringing this back to the nords
I like his stuff but I also like what bethesda did
because it makes sense in the game
they're not really nords anymore they're imperials cosplaying nords
prime seal
I like his stuff but I also like what bethesda did
wym he worked on skyrim and oblivion too
spring cairn
notmynords
languid meadow
wym he worked on skyrim and oblivion too
it's how they took the nords from original vision
Hold on
prime seal
tl;dr read c0da
spring cairn
og nords were like cartoon barbarians
prime seal
its unofficial but parts of it are referenced within official tes media
languid meadow
the kirk post is on his tumblr and I don't have an account
prime seal
its also a deconstruction of canon being choosen by the corporation through official media
spring cairn
what
languid meadow
either way I like what they did to the nords in Skyrim besides the cities but that's like an engine shit
prime seal
people lie lambda
prime seal
languid meadow
https://www.tumblr.com/michaelkirkbride/128602974278 the post no longer exsits or something idk but now I look like a fool
prime seal
im not going on tumblr just give us a tl;dr
plush mason
19 years later it returns in it's most powerful form, the Gabecube
spring cairn
I'm overly vitriolic but i lwky agree it's just
i would've liked to see
the og nords in a game
like skyrim how it was described wel
before skyrim
prime seal
shoutouts Talos
spring cairn
by talus
plush mason
iirc in Oblivion the Nords where at war with the empire
storm jungle
wait was that not always a thing
languid meadow
Nords fighting a civil war over a Breton/Imperial god
languid meadow
But back yeah I like how the stormcloaks are fucking posers
"muh Talos"
you don't even care about YOUR gods
median star
the kirk post is on his tumblr and I don't have an account
for a split sec i thought this was you saying kirk had a tumblr account
prime seal
iirc in Oblivion the Nords where at war with the empire
they were a part of the greater conflict against the aldmeri dominion afaik
languid meadow
only that one homeles dude does
plush mason
wait was that not always a thing
Skyrim has been part of the empire and in open revolt like 3000 times or something, rebelling is just the Nords' passtime
spring cairn
it awlays circles back to "kill all elves" anyway in the end
median star
it awlays circles back to "kill all elves" anyway in the end
do orcs fall under the knife ear shaped blade
languid meadow
Tamriel history in a nutshell
prime seal
But back yeah I like how the stormcloaks are fucking posers
talos worship grants you heaven
spring cairn
do orcs fall under the knife ear shaped blade
they came from the elves so yes
plush mason
it awlays circles back to "kill all elves" anyway in the end
killing mers and banging Khajjit is their 2nd fav passtime
spring cairn
almost every non-human is an elf offshoot
languid meadow
they weren't even classified as mer until morrowind or was it daggerfall
spring cairn
even Khajjits
prime seal
never ask a stormcloack the race of his wife
languid meadow
they were lumped with goblins for a while and killed on site
languid meadow
median star
wish elder scrolls had gnomes love gnomes
languid meadow
also this
spring cairn
even the orsimers founding myth is vile
languid meadow
Stormcloaks forsake their ancient duty
spring cairn
they literally came from shit
languid meadow
I mean
prime seal
vagrant fox
they should if they don't
prime seal
he doesnt theres nothing to discuss
spring cairn
he does
languid meadow
whitestrake certainly couldn't tell the difference
queen laurel
Nords really do be this huh
spring cairn
if he don't he's not a true hater
languid meadow
bro is like THE elf hater
prime seal
whitestrake certainly couldn't tell the difference
whitestrake was so angry he became a deity that doesnt count
vagrant fox
it counts
spring cairn
kajiits came from elves never forget their crime of existence
storm jungle
whitestrake certainly couldn't tell the difference
Penal Whitestroke?
or whatever his name was
languid meadow
My fav gay cyborg or whatever he is now
storm jungle
um excuse me
spring cairn
gay cyborg still
storm jungle
shouldnt that be Raiden
languid meadow
I love bullshit lore we just threw on him
spring cairn
that's still the case
vagrant fox
raiden who
spring cairn
and he's awesome
vagrant fox
raiden deez?
prime seal
My fav gay cyborg or whatever he is now
his physical form was destroyed
languid meadow
Also like one of the most important artefacts for the nords is powered by elf racism and has a wojak of them on it
spring cairn
it's peak
vagrant fox
I don't care if it's justified the slayqueen gay couple killed so many elves so I think it's cool
spring cairn
Wuuthrad my beloved
languid meadow
all of the man racism is cultural while man v mer racism is just pure hate racism
mer v mer?
it's both
never ask a high elf what they think of wood elves
spring cairn
i'd agree with them tbh
storm jungle
all of the man racism is cultural while man v mer racism is just pure hate racis...
read that as "white man" for a second
well i guess its not completely wrong
young pecan
a true elf hater also hates khajiits
what did Khajiit do 
languid meadow
drug addicts
spring cairn
elf offshoot
storm jungle
THEY VOMITED ON MY FUCKING RUG
prime seal
i dont like the way pelinal was killed, it felt like a "we dont know how to kill him so heres some bullshit"
young pecan
THEY VOMITED ON MY FUCKING RUG
same
young pecan
elf offshoot
Yeah but they're cooler than elves so
languid meadow
I love the Argonians and Khajiit I just wish the Argonians didn't kill the rest of the beast races
spring cairn
Khajiit is also gene coded to be a thief, it's not racism I swear it's true
young pecan
Woah now
storm jungle
Bro is editing the lore when we arent looking
young pecan
Where in the lore does it say that
spring cairn
just look at them
vagrant fox
what did todd howard mean by making up a whole species of thieves and drug addicts
prime seal
Where in the lore does it say that
it doesnt it's just that since they're better at sneaking than everyone else they just steal more
young pecan
Also I like the fact that Khajiit can be anywhere from just a panther to a normal dude with hairy ears or something depending on the moon cycle when they were born
spring cairn
cats are inherently mischievous
young pecan
Good
spring cairn
therefore you can't trust these things
storm jungle
therefore you can't trust these things
as seen here
languid meadow
it doesnt it's just that since they're better at sneaking than everyone else the...
it's kind of a feedback loop since they are often disbarred from entering cities because of the stereotype therefore they need to steal to live
prime seal
it's kind of a feedback loop since they are often disbarred from entering cities...
this too
storm jungle
it's kind of a feedback loop since they are often disbarred from entering cities...
also this is just ratling lore
spring cairn
ratling are also inherently thieves
young pecan
Cultural stereotypes only encourage culture stereotypes xd
spring cairn
so i agree
young pecan
Racism across all settings I see
storm jungle
im glad we dont have to deal with such things IRL
spring cairn
not but fr I recalle a book on khajiits about how in their culture the concept of property is literally "different"
i'm going to try and find it
young pecan
so i agree
And what do you think of the demon people who are now in New York trying to complete a ritual 
spring cairn
ok they're not literally all in NYC that's just racist dude
languid meadow
the list of beastfolk is interesting but it sucks we prob wont see more sentient/sapient ones
opaque coyote
Cultural stereotypes only encourage culture stereotypes xd
Europeans and Romani ppl moment
prime seal
khajiit can also manipulate space and time to spread lies accross it
young pecan
I don't know much about ES lore but it's really fucking funny that argonians are just mind slaves to a big tree if they grew up in their home country
spring cairn
beast races in TES died when they got rid of the digitigrade legs, you know i'm absolutely correct
near wasp
I was waiting for somebody to mention my people
spring cairn
u know i am
young pecan
Just chilling and then you receive a divine order from The Tree of Heavenly Nourishment telling you to kill a demon that's invading
languid meadow
Argonians
Birdfolk (extinct)
Centaurs
Dragonlings
Dreugh
Faun (deer people)
Frost Giants (just big trolls)
Goblins/ogres/gremlins
there are even gorilla and chimp people in the wood elf province
opaque coyote
Argonians
Birdfolk (extinct)
Centaurs
Dragonlings
Dreugh
Faun (deer people)
Fros...
No cock cock?
young pecan
there are even gorilla and chimp people in the wood elf province
this sounds bad out of context doesn't it
languid meadow
opaque coyote
bethesda wouldn't make them right
More importantly given how uh
"Tolerant" the thalmor are
languid meadow
Also there were fox people before the argonians got to them and gave them smallpox
opaque coyote
Also there were fox people before the argonians got to them and gave them smallp...
Oh damn they actually look cool
young pecan
Native American reference maybe