#40k-lore-chat

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crystal forum
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the mage guy contained the explosion

wintry cloud
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Good for him

humble shoal
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So does exterminatus just not work then?

crystal forum
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very old virus bomb

humble shoal
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Fair

crystal forum
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the better question is why was it intact after being bombarded by orbit

arctic talon
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Very old virus bomb yeah

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I'd assume it was a "dud"

crystal forum
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better not question it

arctic talon
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Fulgrim + Magnus are both pretty competent as daemon primarchs

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Magnus's only modern banishment was via deus ex machina from fucking Khorne

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so that hardly counts lol

late verge
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I think Savant psyker is an interesting character because they don't seem to understand what setting theyre in. Theyre genuinely hopeful and optimistic but not as naive as they seem. I think they had a line with the loner psyker that was something like "Why do you proscribe so much value to the lex when it is used to oppress our kind?" and then savant was like "I use the lex as a tool to help others." and loner was like "i never thought of it that way :0"

theyre probably the only fully "good" non-ogryn reject. Most everyone else has glaring massive unforgivable flaws (which is part of why I love them so much) but Savant is unique in that they are a decent person and try to be better.

crystal forum
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have they ever fought grey knights

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i feel like the only factions that could banish fulgrim or magnus would be

  1. grey knights
  2. custodes
  3. space marines with a primarch
wintry cloud
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It could be anyone with the numbers

arctic talon
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but he knows when to fold his cards

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since his goal is to "have fun" primarily

wintry cloud
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Btw is his self titled book good?

arctic talon
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which one

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the heresy one?

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or the 40k one

wintry cloud
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Newest

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Perfect son

arctic talon
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the 40k one is a good Emperors Children book

wintry cloud
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Lessgo

arctic talon
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it barely has any fulgrim in it

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lol

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so don't expect him

wintry cloud
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Ah, oh well

arctic talon
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it should have just been titled "perfect son"

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tbh

wintry cloud
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I still wanna see some EC

median star
crystal forum
crystal forum
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underrated game

storm jungle
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ill say

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if i had to be briefly an Anton Ego

crystal forum
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still so few people playing it

storm jungle
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the last episode is essentially just an Invincible episode, mostly cutscenes with tons of interactive combat beats

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but like, it was so fucking Cinema™ that i dont really give a shit

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it was amazing

surreal nest
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SHUT UP

storm jungle
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eat my ass

surreal nest
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I DELETED EVERYTHING TO AVOID SPOILERS do NOT talk about dispatch

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Im at WORK

storm jungle
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Im gonna talk about it

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its peak, deal with it

surreal nest
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True....

storm jungle
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Also yeah uh

surreal nest
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Nope

storm jungle
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if you got the game play it the moment you get home, it has a lot

storm jungle
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but yeah its gonna get spoiled FAST

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so otherwise you are doomed

crystal forum
surreal nest
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I deleted Instagram and YouTube

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I gotta delete discord too in case somebody tries to be funny

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Goodbye cruel world for 6 hours

crystal forum
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the yellow guy kills the green guy

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spoiler

storm jungle
storm jungle
lament shoal
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I lost my house in 2008 and one of the mfs responsible for it is still successful 💀

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Fml

crystal forum
wintry cloud
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Yeah i better play dispatch tbh

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But my backlog is so large

storm jungle
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you should do it now

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its not that long

wintry cloud
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My friend has been begging me to play deltarune

wintry cloud
storm jungle
wintry cloud
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Bet

storm jungle
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Deltarune in comparison is like weeks lmao

wintry cloud
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A lady of culture i see

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W

storm jungle
# wintry cloud Bet

its very much like an interactive superhero movie minus the dispatching bits, its very fun

lament shoal
crystal forum
fickle marlin
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so uh, I'm new here and trying to get some aspects of the game's weapons down for later study. Why TF is the vigilant, braced, and infantry autoguns the way they are? Just gameplay or are they supposed to be different patterns or somethin. Trying to find em on a database is a pain as its mostly just labeled autogun on its own

celest dome
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Dilara, I'm currently having a WoD evening, running some Hunter for some friends, one of them is suggesting we do a Mage tryout next month 😨 I don't think they are thinking of running it

storm jungle
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Then be honest and tell them what you think KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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^

lament shoal
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In terms of gameplay they each have a specific play style

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Also autoguns mentioned

fickle marlin
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so what's the actual patterns for braced, vigilant, and infantry supposed to be then? cuz the game makes them out to be patterns based on planets and marks, but some share planets.
(also, learning GW screwed attachments as a concept pisses me off. I want the damn fake holos we got on the lasguns on an autogun)

storm jungle
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The GW fuckup hole goes deep believe me 💀

celest dome
storm jungle
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all the names on them are some canon locations and others are madeup for the game

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for example Agripinaa is an actualy forgeworld in the lore

celest dome
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Drink break over

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Bey

lament shoal
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Infantry autogun my beloved. I love turning an entire poxwalker horde into red mist in a single volley

fickle marlin
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so an Agripinaa MK1 autogun is the type we'd expect as a full auto infantry gun, but its an Agripinaa Mk IX thats a semi auto style rifle..

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but they're both autoguns at the end of the day...

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I can only assume gameplay stylings is the only reason they're grouped the way they are... except the models share so much that it feels like a subset of patterns itself...

humble shoal
fickle marlin
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and the one Autogun I trust the most. Love me volume of fire
(funny that it says Columnus instead of Vraks on the autogun's description. I assume a name change somewhere?)

languid meadow
lament shoal
languid meadow
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Yes

burnt maple
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Certainly looks like it lol.

fickle marlin
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feels like it can apply ot quite a few other series tbqh

humble shoal
fickle marlin
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oh wow, now I understand. looking through old posts and seeing so many name changes... GW just hate the names or something?

storm jungle
humble shoal
sacred ginkgo
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Some of them were so small as changing mk2 to mk3

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Don't even ask why

sacred ginkgo
wintry scarab
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These mother fuckers will do anything but make halflife 3 ffs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhTvaRogQp8

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golden imp
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We’re thunder warriors 1 for 1 better fighters then space marines?

prime seal
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yes firstborn, primaris no one knows

median star
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on a 1v1 they were normally more imposing and stronger maybe about on equal terms w primaris but not nearly as strategic

golden imp
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You don’t need strategy when you are fighting mad max villains on Terra

median star
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also the fact that sometimes theyd just kind of randomly die and or explode for 'reasons'

rose thorn
dapper gyro
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They would be stronger than primaris. Their armour is half powered and they still fought 3 to 1 vs fully powered Marines.

rose thorn
arctic talon
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GW should kill the wheel cult in AoS

median star
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their still is like a dozen to half dozen thunder warriors that are still alive technically on terra if i remember correctly they took gene seed and just turned themselves into basically astartes

rose thorn
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oh?

arctic talon
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I just hate the wheel cult

rose thorn
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lmao

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fai

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r

arctic talon
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lol

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They probably died during the siege

median star
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probably tho thats why i said technically as theyve not be stated to have died

rose thorn
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i despise thudner warriors

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they are hte most redditor tier lore ever next to half eldar and chaos tyranids

arctic talon
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Why

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Well the first one isn’t real

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Second one is uh

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I’m not sure actually

median star
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thunder warriors are based in comparison to normal astartes behavior brother this brother that when thunder warriors are just im going to beat you to death with your own arms and have a laugh about it

rose thorn
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people pog out every time thunder adn warrior are mentioned, depsite them doing nothing in lore

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and poeple re like

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"they are so much stronger adn better than even custodies adn iw ant them to be thier own army

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maybe im going insane

median star
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id rather not have them get minis but a book maybe even short stories all in

rose thorn
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so im not sure if there is any chaos tainted nids

rose thorn
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they haev too much fucking loer

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for how meaningless their existance is

median star
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thats why the only actual chapters i like are nightlords (they have emotion to what they do and arent glued soley to chaos or chaos at all constant betrayal amongst themselves false justice guides and endless self fulfilling prophecies) and iron hands ( they dont get to have feeling anymore only chrome)

rose thorn
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they barely serve world building in a short story that might not even be canon

median star
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thunder warriors still get the raw bullshit of astartes but get to experience through the emotional lense of still being people not totally psycho indoctrinated child soldiers

rose thorn
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thunder warriors, should have 2 paragraphs of lore

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remember wen they did a made to order mk 1 power armr

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and everyone flipped their utter shit

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everyone on reddit who dont own models*

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thinking it would be a thunder warrior army teaser or osme shit

arctic talon
rose thorn
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"omg a thudner warrior omg guys''

arctic talon
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Less is more for the unification wars

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Imo

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Same with the War in Heaven

rose thorn
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look at me in the eyes and tell me thunder warriors have any reason to exist besides being space marines but not really

rose thorn
rose thorn
arctic talon
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Their existence is fine

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Imo

median star
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also like thunder warrios as their name sort of jives w iron hands name pre finding ferrus (storm walkers)

rose thorn
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yeah but htey have too much lore, their lex page should not be longer than any fucking 40k faction. when you say thunder warrior people shoudl go "huh" and not "eyah i hope they become a new faction adn rejoin hte imperium"

arctic talon
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Their page isn’t that long

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Tbf

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It’s shorter then any actual factions

rose thorn
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okay just checked, thunder warrior lex has 1282 word not counting characters and shit

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gsc has 400 words more

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we are good

arctic talon
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lol

rose thorn
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crazy that teh votaan one has 3400 words

arctic talon
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Gsc should prolly be longer

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They have a lot of lore lol

prime seal
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no we arent you cant even play thunder warriors lmfao

arctic talon
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lol

rose thorn
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OH EYAHH

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thank you gav

arctic talon
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A faction getting drowned in a tidal wave of lore whenever gav writes a book for them

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The only downside is you get a mid as fuck book

rose thorn
# prime seal no we arent you cant even play thunder warriors lmfao

every time thunder and warrior are mentioned in teh same sentence reddit is like "HERE WE GOOOOO", every time a stormcast is revealed reddt is like "is this a thunder warrior???" or "oh hey a new mini to mkae into a thunder warrior, htanks gw for giving us sutff we dont want"

rose thorn
prime seal
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i dont browse space marine 40k reddit

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only tau

rose thorn
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fair

prime seal
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so i can see peoples minis

rose thorn
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i ahd to disconnect from reddit mentally so i can stay sane

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wait why havent i blcoked weshammer on youtube yet tats such a good idea

arctic talon
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The wheel cult should be banned in greywater

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On god

rose thorn
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LMAO

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what did they do

arctic talon
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And do other kind of heinous stuff like any religious cult

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lol

rose thorn
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oh yeah fair

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they are a military cult tbf

arctic talon
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Yeah

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But no wheels smh

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Lame

rose thorn
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and also if it helps Tahlia is pissed at Pontifex because embergard, the city Pontifex literally founded, was attacked (then destroyed) and she disappeared literally right before the attack lmao

prime seal
rose thorn
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sorry zenestra*

rose thorn
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i forgot pontifex is tehr ank

arctic talon
rose thorn
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adn zenestra is the name

arctic talon
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She’s probably undead

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lol

rose thorn
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isnt she a reincarnation of the other matriarchs of the great wheel?

prime seal
prime seal
prime seal
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like in tes

arctic talon
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Imo she’s the skeleton

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On the back

rose thorn
rose thorn
arctic talon
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Fate isn’t pre ordained in any of the Warhammer settings

rose thorn
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i mean, kidna, aos is wierd because fate exists but it is constantly beign tambered with

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ie excelsis

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their money is literally fortune telling and visions of the future

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but the value is dependant ont eh accuracy and importants of hte vision

prime seal
rose thorn
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and in chamon espeically fate is baiscally never fucking correct lmao

arctic talon
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It’s always malleable

prime seal
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some of tzeench' thralls have fate manipulating spells

rose thorn
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chamon is the chosen realm that tzeentch is attacking

arctic talon
rose thorn
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theres probably agood reaosn vindicarum is the most religious city and destains all witchcraft for a good reason besides literally being under the threat of mass extermnation by the stormcasts

arctic talon
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Friendliest Stormhost

rose thorn
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only the faithful ahh

prime seal
arctic talon
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Neat

rose thorn
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whats tes?

arctic talon
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The elder scrolls

rose thorn
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OH

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i shoudl play that more

prime seal
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its pre ordained but you can be strong enough to circumvent it

rose thorn
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destruction's visions nad mystism is weirldy accurate but that could be because of drugs or just straight up lying (gitz)

prime seal
rose thorn
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the bad moon really likes pretending to be predictable lmao

rose thorn
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oh yeah @arctic talon did you see tha hedonites won the world championship

arctic talon
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Yeah

arctic talon
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It’s not

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The eldar literally steer fate in the direction they want

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And keep it in that direction as much as they can

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The future is something that can be predicted and modified

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But it will never be 100%

west pendant
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I finished chapter 1 of boltgun super fun game

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I still think the original doom games are better boomer shooters imo

mossy peak
west pendant
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Btw do you guys read fantasy books? If so do you have any recommendations

storm jungle
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Gotrek and Felix is the go-to Eisenhorn-esque classic recommendation for most people

west pendant
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Not Warhammer

storm jungle
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aw man

arctic talon
west pendant
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Ive read almost all cosmere

arctic talon
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Discworld?

mossy peak
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acotar

west pendant
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I haven't read lord of the rings actually, which I should

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Disc world is interesting but I dunno if I'll like it

arctic talon
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Like stardust by Niel Gaimen

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Unfortunately niel gaimen

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Is you know

west pendant
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Yeah I know

mossy peak
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i don’t

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what about him

west pendant
mossy peak
west pendant
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How so ?

arctic talon
west pendant
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What word is that ?

arctic talon
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Rhymes with grape

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Or just take the g away from grape

west pendant
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Isn't that sexual assault ?

arctic talon
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More extreme

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Different for legal reasons

mossy peak
west pendant
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Btw for a super grimdark world there's very little sexual assault in 40k

arctic talon
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There is

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It’s just not mentioned

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Tbh

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Not that kind of story

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For 40k mostly

west pendant
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I guess you can make light of violence and dictatorship

arctic talon
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It comes up in warhammer crime

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And horror

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And some other novels

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But it’s usually like

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Not what’s relevant in 40k stuff

storm jungle
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its why you'll never really see imperial guardsmen stick babies on bayonets

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or other horrific shit armies do IRL

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because people will just be offput and not really read more/get indoctrinated to buy miniatures etc

mossy peak
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and the people who aren’t put off probably aren’t the people gw want as their fanbase

storm jungle
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^

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its ironically explored/mentioned more in Warhammer Fantasy back in the day lol

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but yeah its largely just not-safe-for-work and UK book censorship laws etc, its the ultimate dilemma of "We can show a guy being melted to death but not tits" sorta thing

mossy peak
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i’ve already seen that one diorama enough on twitter without gw indulging those people in the slightest

paper haven
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No nudity or cursing in our hypervioolent wargame

wintry cloud
fickle marlin
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i mean it gets the point across

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you don't have to write a manuscript about every detail in something so vile

wintry cloud
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Yeah without getting into explicit detail

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Cause the more you detail that stuff the less people wanna read it

fickle marlin
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people who want to get into that, go ahead. just make sure you tag it so I don't accidently walk into it on twitter/bsky

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anyway, one of these days I need to get some 3D printers set up and make my own autogun props cuz honestly the more I play this game the more I want to fidget with half the guns in it

storm jungle
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"twitter/bsky"? What 💀

fickle marlin
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what? I never closed my twitter, and I use bsky as well.

fickle marlin
young pecan
lament shoal
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@storm jungle what getting into hunter the parenting has felt like:

storm jungle
lament shoal
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Real

humble shoal
storm jungle
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its gonna kill me man 💀

humble shoal
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I stopped watching after the kevin "interview"

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waiting for a backlog

lament shoal
fickle marlin
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i got no idea what's goin on anymore, just watching it go past

storm jungle
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some people just dont know

lament shoal
humble shoal
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violence, violence

humble shoal
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I do not understand

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the problem with violencer

lament shoal
humble shoal
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I love violence

storm jungle
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Anyway weeb shit is posted so im leaving staregryn

humble shoal
humble shoal
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ran out of meth?

fickle marlin
lament shoal
storm jungle
lament shoal
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Its not against the rules

fickle marlin
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Ah!... good

humble shoal
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until dilARA SLAPS YOU

young pecan
young pecan
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So instead of getting an A rank she just fell over and died at 9500 rating

fickle marlin
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anyway, here's all my favorite... okay that's a new gif to add to the "hate with a passion"

humble shoal
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anyway @storm jungle what is the best jokaero book?

lament shoal
humble shoal
young pecan
young pecan
young pecan
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I just got out of a triple crown angst phase and now I just let it roll

lament shoal
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Nah u aint going anywhere

humble shoal
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ew weeb shit

fickle marlin
# young pecan You'd have a stroke in zealot chat

I feel like that's the point, anyway I just eat crayons and play Vet cuz I got no idea how to do builds. Really only been playing for 2 weeks or so but making it up as I go... got no idea how to really "survive" as a vet unless I got Kark nades and the "get the hell off of me" shout

west pendant
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Star wars vs Warhammer 40k

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Go

humble shoal
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though I find myself pushing way less than in vt2

bold mantle
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kark nades sound sick

humble shoal
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and dodging way more

rose thorn
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I’m unironically excited for creation menu

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I’m downloading fallout 4 now

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To see how it goes

fickle marlin
# humble shoal gotta learn the melee dance

my big issue is what melee makes the most sense. I was sticking with the shovel for a long bit, then started using the Falchion cuz "DO THE META OR I'MMA KICK YA" from a few matches in a row, and then just took a knife cuz honestly stabby stabby is kinda fun.

median star
lament shoal
humble shoal
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at all

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lol

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the mark 1 shovel is more meta

west pendant
rose thorn
fickle marlin
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I did enjoy it in the end tho, so its in the rotation. Just feels neat to power up and CLEAVE

west pendant
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Fallout 4 big doodoo

humble shoal
median star
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fallout 3 the goat ill die on my hill

west pendant
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Fallout new Vegas smh

rose thorn
rose thorn
crystal forum
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i have and i will

lament shoal
west pendant
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I see

humble shoal
humble shoal
west pendant
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I think fallout new Vegas is where the writing peaked

humble shoal
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IE loyalist World Eaters, Lunar Wolves, Emperors Children

fickle marlin
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anyway, the day a katana shows up in Warhammer the day I'd get happy real quick. IDK how to make that work lore wise but FFS we got the Dao Power Swords in real lore so there's gotta be some room for it

humble shoal
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except for night lords

crystal forum
west pendant
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And fallout 4 is where the writing sucked the most

young pecan
crystal forum
humble shoal
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bingus

rose thorn
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I already really like the fallout 4 writing, it has alot of really good stuff if you look for it

west pendant
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What I dislike the most out of fallout 4 is how they force you to engage with the bullshit settlement system

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I don't want to build settlements, I couldn't give a fuck

lament shoal
west pendant
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I just want to explore and roleplay

crystal forum
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we get it mag you're a baby who grew up with 4

rose thorn
humble shoal
west pendant
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The entire minutemen faction is there to shill the settlement system to you

rose thorn
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Thete is only 1 quest that makes you use settlements

west pendant
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Them as a faction suck ass

rose thorn
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And it’s the teleport one

humble shoal
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oh I found a sentient xenos thats missing from the lexicanum mon keigh

west pendant
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And once you have those settlements you got Preston Garvey up your ass asking for help

crystal forum
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settlements were such a waste of dev time lol

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imagine if all that dev time went to actually important mechanics

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like crafting

fickle marlin
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actually, bringing up the Dao... where is there no lance like weapons here in Darktide? You'd think a few spears would be useful

crystal forum
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oh im sorry you need 400 more super glues

west pendant
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Just the overall design of fallout 4 is super popcorny, it wastes your time so much

humble shoal
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unless you mean the heavy sword

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which also is not a dao

fickle marlin
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white tiger dao's exist so actual eastern designs still exist in the universe somewhere

humble shoal
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rather something similar to this

median star
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the heavy sword is a messer

rose thorn
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Ooooo support mod authors ooooo

crystal forum
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more unpowered trash weapons

humble shoal
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but yeah there is a mongolian coded chapter

fickle marlin
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I'm just surprised a Katana like sword never manifested cuz I've tried looking and saw nothing

young pecan
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Minutemen are real patriots you commie

rose thorn
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They are enclave if you don’t wanna support rich people and eugenics

crystal forum
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the setting is european centric medieval

humble shoal
crystal forum
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death cultists vary a lot

fickle marlin
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Huh. Good to know for design stuff later

young pecan
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Brotherhood standing on pretty much nothing except for racism

humble shoal
young pecan
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Institute standing on pretty much nothing but evil scientists aesthetic

crystal forum
humble shoal
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oh yeah

crystal forum
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it's not even a faction

west pendant
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I wonder if I'll ever meet someone in real life who's a fan of Warhammer

rose thorn
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Kinda wish death cult would ahve their own solo unit unlinked to any others

west pendant
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No

crystal forum
rose thorn
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Warhammer fans you meet outside usually play the tabletop game

crystal forum
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with airships for some fucking reason

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who asked for this

rose thorn
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If you wana meet fans I suggest getting into one of the model games

median star
rose thorn
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LMAO

west pendant
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Yeah but I'd have to go outside and meet them, it's a big no-no, people are outside, I don't want nothing to do with that

crystal forum
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wait i completely forgot the new class

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did it get revealed

dire loom
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We talking about Fallout currently?

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Raider and Mercenary 💯

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Loot and pillage, repeat.

humble shoal
lament shoal
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Ik death cults are always portrayed as using melee combat but are there any gun focused ones?

crystal forum
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well i take this as a good sign since that means they'll make sure it works before release (?)

fickle marlin
# crystal forum the setting is european centric medieval

oh yeah, i totally get that but its one of the things I've noticed when getting into this is why a lot of this is gothic AF to start with there is actually a lot of variety in designs the further you go out. ITs honestly fascinating seeing the different guardsmen from world to world, the gear changing and shaped to their styles and designs. Honestly makes me think you could make any planet with its own regiment and inspiration and just go with it if you took enough time

storm jungle
dire loom
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Nuka World was my favorite, could actually be super evil like Caesars Legion.

storm jungle
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they just gotta wear latex

storm jungle
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and worship death for Big E

crystal forum
dire loom
#

Vengeance against Preston and his settlements needing help meme. Was peak

crystal forum
#

COUGH COUGH DAN ABNET

west pendant
#

My biggest dream is to meet a goth girl that plays Warhammer with the dark elf faction

humble shoal
young pecan
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I'm choosing to interpret this as it being such an important representation that GW had to have a stick up their ass about it

storm jungle
young pecan
#

So it must be good 🤑

humble shoal
#

had a friend start reading eisenhorn

humble shoal
#

he asked about the bodyglove

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I told him it was Dan's fetish

median star
fickle marlin
#

or GW yet again sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong... for people who don't actually do crap for the brand other than make overpriced plastic

west pendant
#

Wait so games workshop have the final say in any product that gets made in the Warhammer universe ?

crystal forum
lament shoal
storm jungle
crystal forum
#

except if it's dan abnet

west pendant
#

Do you have to pay GW to create content about Warhammer if you are a big company?

fickle marlin
#

and they're so utterly stick up ass about shit

crystal forum
#

then dan abnet has final say

humble shoal
#

or they get a cut

crystal forum
#

since he does whatever tf he wants

storm jungle
#

^

median star
#

i know who delayed the class it was @static wren !!!

west pendant
#

Games workshop are vultures

storm jungle
#

remember the purpose of every warhammer game is to indoctrinate you to buy tabletop products, that is the pipeline endgoal

humble shoal
#

Games workshop owns the ips

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and the books

west pendant
#

I'll never buy tabletop products, what am I a nerd ?

fickle marlin
#

like I get trying to keep everything canon and making it make sense in your every growing franchise but eventually you gotta take the stick outta your butt and just let stuff roll once in a while. Guys don't even make anything worth a damn these days, just license it for others to make and expand on

crystal forum
fickle marlin
#

its the freest gig I've ever seen

crystal forum
#

that's potential customers

fickle marlin
#

to the GW rep in the chat, let it be known I ain't ever buying a piece of plastic from ya. I'll work in blender myself tyvm

vagrant fox
#

this is another situation where we blame chapter house

humble shoal
#

anyway @storm jungle were mon-keigh not a sentient species?

storm jungle
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people treat them like martyrs when they were morons that ruined it for everyone

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lmao

humble shoal
#

thought they were sentient, just assholes

dire loom
west pendant
#

No

storm jungle
crystal forum
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can't believe chapter house got me siding with GW

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fucking dipshits

humble shoal
#

KEKW_ogryn then why arent they on the lexicanum sentient xenos list

young pecan
#

Chapter House was an industry plant made to discredit anti-GW movements

dire loom
#

EDIT
Let it be known throughout Flash-Gitz land that no company has ever delivered Flash-Gitz Animation a cease and desist, but then maybe the rocket just hasn't arrived yet.

We do not intend to imply otherwise, especially seeing as our latest animation was about no company in particular. Just clearing the air.


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fickle marlin
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Chapter House?

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first I'm hearing of em

crystal forum
dire loom
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Literally still a relevant video to be this day

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Damn corpos

humble shoal
fickle marlin
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oh, and let me guess. GW hated that with a passion

humble shoal
#

well yeah

median star
fickle marlin
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Man I'll be real, if I really wanted to play Warhammer on tabletop, I'll draw on paper and make tokens before I ever buy the models

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there's better methods tho

crystal forum
#

welcome to 40k

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you will inevitably cave in

dire loom
#

You can like totally just play Dawn of War and Total War..

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If you want a large scale strategy Warhammer or Warhammer 40k game..

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Literally

fickle marlin
#

I mean my main thing I'm waiting for is Dark Hersey by Owlcat

dire loom
fickle marlin
#

I trust those guys quite a bit after playing a bit of Pathfinder from em

dire loom
#

Still waiting on Rogue Trader to wrap up it's final dlc so I can actually finally play the full experience.

lament shoal
#

I'm hyped for dark heresy

dire loom
#

Same

west pendant
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Im waiting on rogue trader as well

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I played it a bit but I want the full experience

crystal forum
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i hope it's a let down because i like watching people be sad

lament shoal
#

I got over 500 hours on rogue trader

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Lol

wintry cloud
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More excited for dark heresy than i was for RT

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I have spread my seed and I have three friends playing rogue trader rn

fickle marlin
#

I also feel dumb cuz I didn't actually realized until getting deeper into this that those games are based on older table tops

wintry cloud
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Don’t worry, warhammer is a rabbit hole

crystal forum
#

i have a rabbit hole too

wintry cloud
#

Oh yeah?

west pendant
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Warhammer is cool but I need some elf rep in the games

wintry cloud
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Dark heresy has an elf

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Rogue trader has two

fickle marlin
#

I mean about 2 years or so I got into D&D from a new friend group, then tried Pathfinder, now playing BG3 and other Tabletops, and always looking to FA&FO with more

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currently in a Star Wars Legends based Age of Rebellion campaign

west pendant
#

I fell in love with RPGs playing knights of the old republic

wintry cloud
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A true nerd

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W

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I did dnd only one time but i love it so much

west pendant
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It was my first star wars introduction

wintry cloud
#

I wanna do AoS soulbound so bad

west pendant
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And then I played all kinds of RPGs

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Baldurs gate 1 and 2

lament shoal
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Cuz he's an asshole

fickle marlin
#

so yeah, always looking at more tabletop to mess with. Half tempted to do a VTM sooner or later, but that's another whole system to learn and I'm only just wrapping my head around the system used in Age of Rebellion...

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weird ass dice

west pendant
#

Chess >>>>>> Warhammer tabletop

vagrant fox
#

VTM is pretty simple in terms of dice rolls at least, pretty easy to pick up

fickle marlin
#

I remember making a joke of "we couldjust use this system to do a 4 person group Warhammer 40k thing as well" and was told there was arleady a tabletop using a very similar system... never got the name tho.

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think AoR called em Narrative Dice? IDK

wintry cloud
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I need a friend group to play darkwater

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I will go to a gw store to play it

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Im desperate

rose thorn
#

Probably on release they would do a demo night

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Someone at my lgs is buying 2 crusher stampedes lmao, after he already got leviathan

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What list is he building peashooter1000stare

prime seal
young pecan
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@lament shoal New best horsey

rose thorn
#

I opened fallout 4, if this is that mysterious soft lock that happens I’ll know I’m home

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Oh nope

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It loaded

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Shockingly

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What the fuck this is the smoothest fallout 4 had ever ran

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Where am I

crystal forum
#

in the wrong discord channel

young pecan
#

We don't do on topic around these parts, buster

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Waiter drop another two to three people special interest infodumping in here

hallow saddle
#

total silence from the devs

crystal forum
#

still edition 1 chess

hallow saddle
#

weve been waiting 1000 years for more pieces

crystal forum
#

no rule updates

hallow saddle
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its pathetic

young pecan
#

Two-move win still hasn't been patched out SNOOZE

crystal forum
#

so easy even a clanker could do it

rose thorn
crystal forum
#

what's a warlord lord

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the lord of warlords

young pecan
#

When the lord

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Yeah

rose thorn
#

Thank you auto correct

young pecan
#

The warlord lording warlords

rose thorn
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Ruined my joke

vagrant fox
#

chess is a solved game, boring nonsense

crystal forum
#

almost like a landlord

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warlords landlord

young pecan
#

No

rose thorn
young pecan
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No don't say that

crystal forum
#

land

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lord

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is there sea lord

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air lord

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SPACE LORD

rose thorn
#

There is no fog of war, randomly generated maps, map control

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Science trees

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That’s why I play tacticus

young pecan
#

Maybe even a Space King, if you will...

crystal forum
#

shut up shut up shut up

young pecan
rose thorn
young pecan
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I tried it and it looked to be fundamentally created to be number-crunching mobile game slop instead of strategy

young pecan
crystal forum
#

chess masters when they need to strategize for a battle that isn't pre planned with pre set moves:

#

chess is literally just memorization

rose thorn
crystal forum
#

oh cool my femboy socks arrived

crystal forum
#

imagine getting mad at wood

young pecan
#

Sure it's a solved game but you at least have to give Chess that it's got so so much to its existence as solved

crystal forum
#

i get mad at pixels on my screen

young pecan
#

No normal person is memorizing Chess like they can memorize Mancala

rose thorn
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Chess is most fun when both people barley know the game

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Like

young pecan
#

Just enough to play the game

rose thorn
#

About 30% of the information about chess is known

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Is when it’s most fun

crystal forum
#

they genuinely can memorize that shit

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it's a specific part of the brain

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like how some people can learn languages super easy

arctic talon
crystal forum
#

does that make you a genius? fuck no

arctic talon
#

idk

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I'd consider the new pieces/moves added overtime to be an "edition" so to speak lol

rose thorn
#

Chess boxing is the best side game of chess

arctic talon
#

Chess is fun

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too bad I'm too stupid to play it

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lol

rose thorn
#

Is it more fun to be a chess grand master or scrabble grand master is the thing

arctic talon
#

Chess seems more fun to me

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lol

crystal forum
#

high level scrabble plays like chess almost lol

arctic talon
#

scrabble seems way more like raw memorization at the high levels

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which I've had enough of

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in my life

young pecan
crystal forum
#

there's a guy who won the french scrabble championship without knowing french

young pecan
#

Memory and raw talent

vagrant fox
#

It's this that gets into my head whenever I try chess, completely ridiculous game 100%

rose thorn
#

It’s weird bc there is a shocking amount of mind bullshit you can do, some strategies downed on making fake words

crystal forum
#

especially with how bad these guys can be at social intelligence

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burn

young pecan
#

Being a genius also doesn't mean you don't have flaws

lament shoal
crystal forum
#

there is no single intelligence score for a brain made up of different parts!!!!!

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i say as they drag me to the crazy room

young pecan
#

Yeah IQ can be really reductive but it's still funny to colloquially call stupid people room temp

lament shoal
#

@young pecan also genuinely how tf do you get a stat to s rank

young pecan
#

But for Unity, just prioritize the training that has the most Unity Trainings

#

Friendship training is still goated but I think it's reduced in that scenario

lament shoal
#

Gotcha, ty

young pecan
#

Unity Cup still produces higher stat totals though afaIk

lament shoal
#

I'm assuming pal cards are a must have then?

young pecan
#

Other than that, just high level support cards and proper setup

#

Yeah

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For Unity Cup, borrow someone's Lvl50 Riko (the black suit girl), for URA just borrow a Kitasan Black xd

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@lament shoal One important thing to note is that you can hang onto someone's spirit burst for when it's most convenient for you

young pecan
#

So if someone's about to pop but they're by themself, just wait until they have more teammates with Unity Training active, whether they're at Burst or not

lament shoal
#

Gotcha, thank u

arctic talon
#

Unity cup is unity training + friendship, make sure director has green friendship level by fanfest.

#

Unity cup you give up races for higher stats

#

You don’t do a lot of extra races but you get a fuck ton of stats from unity training + spirit burst

young pecan
#

That gold skill for Spirit that scales with team Speed seems fucking ridiculous btw

#

Base is 35% acceleration, goes higher based on teammate speed

#

A shame it costs 380

arctic talon
#

You’re already gona be running low on points in unity tbh

young pecan
#

I was 2 points off from being able to get it on my last run

arctic talon
#

Since lack of races

young pecan
#

Cards that give skill points are a blessing

arctic talon
#

Anyways I’m bored GW release the new 500 worlds stuff so I can read about the ultras getting their skulls caved in

near wasp
#

Your funny

arctic talon
#

I mean I’m not

near wasp
#

Gw isn't gonna let the blueberries lose

arctic talon
#

They’re statistically likely to lose

arctic talon
near wasp
#

Shhhhh

arctic talon
#

The imperium has not won a single crusade or campaign book

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Since 8e lol

near wasp
#

I'm just meeting tbh

arctic talon
#

And in 8e they lost in more crusade and campaign books then they won

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Smh my head

young pecan
#

I wonder if the Imperium is supposed to even slightly be mirroring the original holy crusade

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One big push

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And then flop

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and flop

arctic talon
#

Maybe lol

#

But the imperium has won(in the past) and outside of campaign books still

#

It’s just campaign and crusade books where they get totally fucking throttled lol

#

Of the original pariah nexus crusade fleet 60% of it died by the time the mechanicus one arrived and the mechanicus killed another 20% by not giving a shit and shooting everything

arctic talon
#

“Humanoid enough Archmagos, opening fire”

near wasp
lofty sedge
#

When did the Margrave Mangolin dialogue get added to the game 🤔 new lore

arctic talon
#

Sounds new

#

But yeah Guilliman sent the mechanicus to “relieve” the imperial forces and to reinforce them

#

The mechanicus took that as “free weapons testing targets”

vagrant fox
#

Mechanicus takes another funniest faction trophy

near wasp
#

Target rich environment

#

Sir the enemy is in that direction

Good remove that direction

arctic talon
#

There’s literally a comment by a skitarii marshal about how the guardsmen, marines and necrons stuck in a melee fight make it “ideal” for testing the results of shelling

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Because they can test it on different sorts of targets with one shell 💀

arctic talon
#

It’s honestly atrocious lol

#

The guard begging the mechanicus to stop shelling them but the skitarii don’t care

young pecan
arctic talon
#

And pretend the pariah nexus is disrupting communications to them

young pecan
#

Maybe the whole setting

golden imp
#

The twice dead king books really showed how SCARY the imperium is when they are well supplied and supported

arctic talon
#

They also ignored requests for “updates” on rescuing forces

#

Because they usually had just killed them for research

near wasp
#

That was a functional crusade

lament shoal
near wasp
#

Made me choke on my drink

arctic talon
#

There’s a biologis who wants more imperial casualties so she can study and see if the null field has effects on the human body lol

#

10/10

vagrant fox
#

Sensible and researchpilled

arctic talon
#

Would let the mechanicus ruin everything again

golden imp
#

Actually good question, horrible reason

arctic talon
#

Well she went out and made some more corpses

lament shoal
#

Rogue trader lore question

arctic talon
#

With a bio weapon

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💀

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You know really useful against those Necrons

#

With their uh

#

Lungs

lament shoal
#

I still don't get why the explorator fleet ||betrays the space wolves in Pasqal's armanat ending||

golden imp
#

And these are the non chaos version of the mechanicus?

near wasp
#

Yes

arctic talon
#

||pasqual is petty||

vagrant fox
#

Yea the admech are huge assholes

lament shoal
#

He's still alive

near wasp
#

Arguably the non chaos admech is worse than the chaos faction

young pecan
arctic talon
#

And it’s the adeptus mechanicus

#

The dark mechanicum uses daemons sure

#

But in terms of pure cruelty the mechanicus wins

arctic talon
#

As in loyal

#

And sound of mind

#

Her conclusion was the pariah nexus does nothing to the human body and directly effects the soul

#

lol

golden imp
#

So were the mechanicus always this baby grinder crazy or were they more sensible during the great crusade when Big E was around

arctic talon
#

Always

#

lol

#

They’ve barely changed

#

Since the great crusade

lofty sedge
#

They believed in innovation when Big E was around

arctic talon
#

No they didn’t

lofty sedge
#

Yuh huh

arctic talon
#

Some groups did

#

Some groups still do

#

But the religion as a whole does not support it without a lot of restrictions

young pecan
#

Wasn't it much less criminalized back then?

arctic talon
#

It’s about as criminal as it is now

#

Just easier to hide

near wasp
#

Watchers of the throne is so good

#

I'm finishing it again

lament shoal
#

Servitors were still a thing in 30k right

arctic talon
#

yes

near wasp
#

Yes

lament shoal
#

Gotcha ty

arctic talon
#

The mechanicus has always allowed for very limited innovation

#

which comes with a whole host of

#

arguments

#

religous debates

#

actual murder

#

ect.

near wasp
#

Servitors have existed since the cybernetic revolt

arctic talon
#

For some new™ innovations a new type of paint was developed

young pecan
#

Didn't the Emperor only allow Mechanicus' existence purely out of a disgusted necessity?

arctic talon
#

and it took around 200 years and a civil war

#

to implement enmass

arctic talon
young pecan
#

Yeah figured

lofty sedge
#

Big E did not have the resources to fight them at that moment

lament shoal
arctic talon
#

he was going to kill them all once the great crusade was finished

young pecan
#

"need now, go bye bye later"

arctic talon
#

and yeah at the start of the Great Crusade

#

The emperor could not have fought them

lofty sedge
#

Thunder warrior experience

arctic talon
#

or done the great crusade without their help lol

humble shoal
arctic talon
#

He needed their manufacturing power

young pecan
#

He seemed really kind to Cawl in Cawl's flashback at least

arctic talon
#

to the point where the mechanicum knew

#

tthat they were "to be replaced"

#

and started making plans to fucking brick everything

lofty sedge
#

Idk if I'd say he was kind to Cawl

arctic talon
#

as a fuck you to him

#

this is including the loyalist mechanicum

lament shoal
near wasp
#

He knew cawl was important at that stage

humble shoal
#

almost like he did it to an ally before

arctic talon
#

who had armed several warheads in the event of an invasion of Mars

#

so that they'd just glass the fucking place

#

as a final fuck you

lofty sedge
arctic talon
#

the loyalist mechanicum ended up using this on the traitor mechanicum instead

humble shoal
crystal forum
arctic talon
#

They ended up glassing mars

#

We know they were around as long as the mechanicus was established

#

which would be sometime during the age of strife

#

if they weren't a DAOT thing

lament shoal
#

Was there ever official art depicting emps with a helmet or has he always been helmetless?

young pecan
#

-perturabo

humble shoal
#

ngl

lofty sedge
#

Big E needs not a helmet

lament shoal
#

It would be great for aura tho

crystal forum
lofty sedge
#

His face is better for aura

near wasp
#

Maybe

crystal forum
#

since the tech for servitors was already there for mechanicus to use

near wasp
#

But knowledge of them wasnt widespread

young pecan
#

Yeah but then all of his stupid little grandchildren are now encouraged to go helmetless

lofty sedge
#

In the DOAT humans probably did NOT use servitors

#

Since they had men of iron

#

Which went very well

crystal forum
#

humanity wasn't a monolith

young pecan
#

Space marines who care to be tactical and wear helmets die because they're not macho

crystal forum
#

it was very fractured in fact

rose thorn
#

how the fuck do i ask bethesda customer support a question

near wasp
#

Id image servitors might of existed in doat as a twisted experiment

#

You dont

young pecan
rose thorn
#

i just want to ask a question why are there 1000 fucking tabs

lofty sedge
young pecan
#

it works

rose thorn
#

i literally cant even find a fucking email

jade holly
#

How strong are Mechanicus combat units actually?

#

Like in lore

crystal forum
#

which ones

#

they have access to crazy wild shit

jade holly
#

Skitarii for simplicity sake

arctic talon
#

scion equivelents

crystal forum
#

stronger than guardsmen

arctic talon
#

regarding martian standard

#

aka the minis

lofty sedge
#

Depends on what they're fighting as well

crystal forum
#

not stronger than marines

arctic talon
#

^

#

They're around Scion level generally

lofty sedge
#

Since their radiation weaponry annihilates humans/organic life

crystal forum
#

yeah elite humans

#

also they get good gear sometimes

arctic talon
#

With augmentation but generally somewhat poorer training then the schola

#

but it evens out to about the same

#

lol

crystal forum
#

but it depends on the forge world

#

like all things in 40k

#

it depends

lofty sedge
#

GW needs to just give 40k Mechanicum some of the 30k models/units.

arctic talon
#

I'd assume they're asking about the minis

arctic talon
#

in 40k lol

#

its so funny how they don't have datasheets

crystal forum
#

are robots a thing in 40k

lofty sedge
#

Mechanicus is so shafted on tabletop

jade holly
#

I really do hope we get a Mechanicus class in Darktide one day

arctic talon
lofty sedge
jade holly
arctic talon
#

Battle automata for the mechanicus are a thing still

jade holly
#

I love cyber tech based characters

arctic talon
#

just more limited

lament shoal
#

I mean are necrons not robots

lofty sedge
#

And those battle automata

crystal forum
#

the ones in 30k

#

if they're in 40k too

arctic talon
#

yes

lofty sedge
#

Yes, but they weren't sentient ofc

crystal forum
#

cool

arctic talon
#

except for the castellax

crystal forum
#

i like the plasma mortar dude

arctic talon
#

which is banned from deployment

#

outside of forgeworld defense

#

the other automata are restricted deployment

#

but still allowed offworld

jade holly
#

Aren’t there some weird cowboy Admech out there?

rose thorn
#

OKAY IT FOUDN IT, ITS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FUCKING PAGE

crystal forum
#

steampunk

arctic talon
crystal forum
#

with western elements

arctic talon
#

also thats the "martian standard"

#

the tabletop skitarii are the "martian standard"

jade holly
#

Of all the people and places to be cowboy…

arctic talon
#

Which isn't just used by mars

crystal forum
#

lame aesthetic

jade holly
#

It’s the damn toaster lovers on Mars

lofty sedge
#

They have an entire combat force of robots

arctic talon
#

smh

#

neither are vanguards

lofty sedge
arctic talon
#

Thallax aren't automata

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

its the same fucking army

crystal forum
#

no

arctic talon
#

they're both around alongside each other

crystal forum
#

one looks cooler

arctic talon
#

Jay