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He doesn't care who does it or how
idk
Shrike wanted to do that the whole time he was chapter masster
Acheran is "new"
Yeah, that’s fair.
Also a mortal reaching the same level as a chaos god is literally impossible
when do you think the 16 detachemtsn wilkl be realeased
it could corrialte to new mdoels :3
the warcom post says this
he's fucking dead
that or he's a Victrix now
but mostly likely dead
Necron
marine
LoV
Nid
Guard
tau
and then idfk
any kroot?
The new tau suits feel very mecha slop
lol
they feel very very very gundam helmet wise
Wtf does Mecha slop even mean
😭
Gundam wannabe mixed with Pokemon Polygon
To be honest I think the #1 thing that disappoints me about the T'au.
Well it's obvious about their lack of variety in terms of different races
But also some of those races sound awesome
Imagine a Vorgh (I think that's their race name, going by memory), who are apparently the size of fucking KNIGHTS
Wearing a gigantic suit of T'au power armor
Wielding a giant fucking club
Or sword
Or whatever
Do you know how fucking COOL that would be?
I would be wondering how it could support its own weight, the armor its now forced to wear, and whatever bs GW gives it
Imagine a giant fucking power armor suit manhandling a Knight.
Using a giant version of a T'au railcannon
...I mean just look at the Titans
Square Cube Law already got thrown away due to the Titans existing let's be fair here
those are designed to be giant walkers. I doubt the Vought evolved with the assumption they were going to be wearing a bunch of external armor.
True
That's why I suggested powered
To uh... Handwave it away
Use the magical force of sci Fi bullshit
It's not like 40k is accurate to our modern laws of physics anwyays
We got Space Elves singing a material that they use for most of their weapons and armor
tbh, not every faction needs a Titan equivalent. Tau were fine with using their Mantas and Grav tanks.
LIke, the move to give every race a super heavy walker lead to that hideous Necron Seraptek.
Tau are a miniscule faction who're smaller than the Ultramarr sector. They shouldn't have the resources to go around deploying Titan-class units.
Tbf true
But
That's just kind of an example of like
There are (lore wise) several other races within the T'au empire
They could interact uniquely with the technology they have also
Oh hey there's already porn of Titus and the necrom
Why are you looking? 
I have my sources
No gooning allowed
Nurgle was owning the AOS segment holy crap
the Slaanesh is spreading
Its a good first strike against the Ultramarines
Only thing I hate about these reveal videos is the fact that the live chat is chock full of the whiniest bitches the human race has to offer
Real
ill never understand the purpose of it either
they pass by so fast its like "why even comment"
Imagining Fulgrim saying this

i am gona delete reddit for liek a week lmao
i refuse to see reddits reaction to these rgeat reveals
Im sorry but
me too
I think you need to be hospitalized for your own sake
LOOK HERES THE GOOD ISDE OF THE ULTRAMRIENS REVEALS
ill prep your shock therapy session
YOU CAN KITBASH YOUR OCS
YOU'LL NEVER CATCH ME
AND URN IT AS THAT 500 NAMED CAHRACTERS UNIT
I would like the UM more if they were actually Ultramarine
Imagine living in the ship.
You wake up in the "morning" to do more missions
First thing you see is a shirtless Ogryn in his undies run by
Is reddit just twitter 2
He's running from Hadron because she found out he chewed off the barrel of his gun after she finished performing maintenance on it
I swear it is
No since you can just
Go to a different subreddit
More like 4chan lite
Except you can actually ignore the racism
Aren't there like, 10 people in charge of about 80 percent of the subreddits or something crazy like that?
Imma check the ultramarines subreddit to see what they're saying about the reveals
Nah the original statistic was
Same 5 people moderate 92 of the most popular subreddits
Still bad but not as bad as you said
Literal administratum shit

Hasn't caused at least 70 random workers to die inbetween making any minor decision
...
yes
Although considering Reddit Mods, they would 100% have that if it was allowed
hope 🪑on is dead
generic ass space marine no.3

Sometimes I genuinely wish for a mode in Darktide where friendly fire for the enemies is enabled and watch the Chaos unfold from there

would make plasma gunners the mvp of the rejects lol
what is 500 worlds
but like ff is on for Tyranids in SM2
although not always a good thing
sucks when the execute target you wanted to get back health with gets euthanized by a VC Warrior
Yeah no how do you have time for that shit
everyone gets Iron halos apparently
Their job must literally be moderation
its a power trip I bet
you think the reason gadriel doesn't get one is because he almost pulled a Leandros, or is it because he's flexing 'cuz he's got the banner? Like, on purpose he didn't get an IH because he already deployed without a helmet, but now he's got to show he's even more bad ass by going with less protection.
Okay so to be blunt
literally none of the modellers give a shit about any of that stuff
its just down to "is this gonna look cool and make people buy them"
actual narrative touches to models UNLESS like some super well known thing (ala a lost limb or whatever) is very rare lol
ffs, they charge like +$100 for a different weapon/gear attachment on a model. The least they can do is make it mean something lol

Call me a slopaholic
Waiter! Waiter! 500 billion more ultramarines please!
I love how i was complaining that he didnt have a stoic face like not long ago
he now has a stoic face
good
Now they'll complain its too stoic
kill all space marine fans

yeah dudes are furious that ultramarines got more stuff
LOL
but dang
those models are cool
I can't look at the word "stoic" and not think about abusing alcohol to get rid of bullets now
they look insanely cool
ngl i legit am just here to take the human ultramops for character references
the others can play with their toys i guess
I just like warhammer as a concept
I rlly dont care much
but seeing people mald is fun
to be fair warhammer is a nice concept
but it should have more beyond space marines
its why the Necromunda reveals for example are peak
so diverse and different
i love it
okay true I will never argue with the fact that space marines---and ultramarines have quintuple the content of the other factions
its fine ill survive as long as we get more Munda
bro has the chinese worker-catcher stick
"buh buh when we tried all that ages ago it didn't sell well! That's why we have to make Starshiptroopes in knight armour!" - GW
the reveals today were all amazing
George Washingskull
Bone Franklin
also i forget but what happened to Titus' other companion in SM2? with the robot arm?
cause he isnt here
lmao..........
what other founding father names can I butcher (insert pooh bear thinking gif)
the real reason is Titus has more marketing value
so its prob why they are getting sidelined
or just for another future reveal
welp in SM3 we can expect him to have his aura cape i guess
he may duel a C'tan shard
I thought Titus died
on that path to RED dead redemption
He's supposed to be on the path to corruption if the original script writers story is being followed.
nah its not
Society.
its been completely scrapped since SM2 came out
It would've been cool
but if he doesn't die or get corrupted, GW's gonna milk him for more games
^
also speaking of corruption
Abaddon at the back like a sitcom lackey is killing me
honestly
I may actually read this series
I forgot that he has black armour for some reason when Luna Wolves > Sons of Horus are white
cause I am NOT reading the entire heresy
Oh no yeah read the first 3 books 100% they are great
After that consult this video
The Horus Heresy series spans 54 books and a ton of short stories, but with the move to the Siege of Terra, it's finally over! So let's run through every single book as fast as we can, and rate them from one to five er.... THINGS. It's time to review Black Library's Warhammer: The Horus Heresy novel series!
Check out EVENTS and buy MERCH on the...
Read Angel Exterminatus. Not because it's good, but because it's hilariously bad.
Ian is BRUTALLY honest and doesnt glaze
arbitor goat
you at best need to read like 10 or 15 max
anyone who says you gotta read like 50 to 60 is a lobotomite lol
that, or they're receiving a comission
too true
500 worlds yet only 5 new space marines…
Chairon
Hopefully he lives
they didnt have time to make the other 495........
I like him he's funny lol
🪑on
I’m so fucking excited for another Genestealer cult foot hero
What did I dooo
Damn
The magus baddie is letting me hit
Any word on when the 500 worlds thing is happening?
Uh let me get the page i didnt even read it
Wait
honestly, with the Plague war, the Tyranid invasion, the 13th Black Crusade, and now this Necron thing when has Ultramar NOT been under iminent threat?
and a book of six new Warhammer 40,000 Detachments for the Space Marines and Necrons.
No
This can’t be right
It’s 9th edition all over again
9th edition 2.0
They'll be fine when a different chapter starts selling better (never)
Thats kinda what you get being made up of 500 worlds
What being the largest of the imperium's territories does to a segmentum
At this point, this should be another Tuesday imho
I do love tho how in the trailer they do the 9th edition thing
It is another tuesday
aka a glorious speech about how everything is fucked
Which means ultramarines get a new box and characters
that "A golden age we'll never achieve again" is peak
wait meant 10th yeah lmao
Yea lol
peopel were so upset by that
because everyone keeps herofying guilliman saying he's gonna fix everything, then he himself says "Nah fam its all fucked, im just putting duct tapes."
That nids were ripping apart marines like nothing yeah lmao
shoutout to my librarian homie getting psychic attacked with tyranid r34 art
I fucked up
A fate worse than death
I accidentally talked my buddy and his wife into a vampire the mascerade game
Is that a crit fail on persuasion, or a crit success?
Dilara when are we getting a jokaero kill team
Deserved.
but its pretty likely lol
MONKE
the best part of KT is they sometimes make THE most random shit as minis
Better get to reading those VTM codexes boy 
Fuckkkkkkkkk
I would 100% buy the monkey kill team idc if it ends up being shit
ngl the best part of not playing tabletop for me is any time a mini reveal drops i just steal them for art references
so i agree lol
Way ahead of you
Curse you drunk joseph why must you do think ;+;
right so question, have you watched SpeakerD's introduction guide to WoD?
Yes I have
Wasn’t there some reveal coming up soon
okay good, was gonna say you should check out the ending bit where he explains how to play the game

I know how to play
LMAO
no like the whole thing of mixing codex rules together etc
I'm just creativity bankrupt
same bro
I'm just gonna stick to vtm tbh
id suggest going on the VTM subreddit and making a thread asking for some assistance too btw
the people there are REALLY nice and helpful lol
I understand the game enough to probably run it I just am not good at writing
Because self doubt eats away at my zoul
Yeah like i said say that you got self-doubt too
i had a thread once where i was asking what to do for a friend shitting on me for wanting to play a Ventrue
and the amount of supportful/helpful comments i got was nuts

the users can prob give you some tips
Yeahhhh my main issue is probably npcs
That's probably where doing a setting like NY or La will help
yeah mention all of that in like a medium sized paragraph of text, theres tons of users ther ethat have similiar issues
🫡
Love y'all wish me luck on my self created problems
I was about to say something Iredeemable in response to this
Ngl I still don't get how he died. Did the neurothrope make his brain explode or something?
i think im gonna expel rumors wihtout pictures from my mind, its a bitter disease
Yeah basically, hold on lemme get a clip that explains it
From the Venture Bros.
Original video: https://youtu.be/9FUik3QotBQ
essentially just psychic overload since he tried to solo a Super-Psyker tyranid, reminder that this thing can literally place dreams into peoples minds and play 4D chess lol
Gotcha, ty
||https://fxtwitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1986567679524925919?|| New absolute Joker cover
He's slimy
Not a fan of this artstyle
older one was better

its like if Belakor put on clown makeup
Clown Bel'Akor
Bel'oker
Bots
God damn what an ugly mf
He needs to see an orthodontist
Get some braces
Did they actually turn joker into some kind of monster or is this just some cover thing
I was not planning on laughing this evening
Not sure if i enjoy daemon prince joker but i may need to get used to it
Idk maybe the story does something interesting with it
But seems pretty dumb on the surface
Hey
Don't be mean!
Tyranids love eating so much they forget to brush their teeth
You forgot the A in his name
Big Titus is back
They really are making him John Spacemarine huh
40k team knows that AoS is pulling in heat and they had to call in a favor from big boy urkhan
"seems pretty dumb on the surface"
so basically every comic book

Basically, but like for joker specifically the whole point is like he's a smart but normal'ish guy
Titus has ALWAYS been john space marine
So what advantage is there to making him a monster
Thats not really what the Absolute-verse doing, everything is going against the norm which is a good thing.
also there isnt an "advantage", its a detriment to him that he constantly needs ot keep in check
thankfully hes a super-billionaire compared to Bruce whos basically a bluecollar worker dude, the advantage gap is kinda the focus point
This looks like ASSS
Looks like someone redrew ai art
I HATE how smooth it is
like this was perfect
it looks creepy as hell and the heavy shadows compliment him a ton
then you got smoothskin jonkler belakor
whats that dude from spawn, he kinda looks like that
Frfr, I mean if it works it works
That a new EC model?
They have to tell their neighbors they're on the national registry in most states
i really hope with the 500 Worlds stuff they dont forget to mention the rapidly expanding Xenos Empire on the border of Ultramar
Me when I wanna show off a cool magic trick using the rabbit that the magician grabbed out of their hat
Dorn and Perturabo circa 31st millenium
(It is up to you which gets their toys exploded)
Perturabo never made toys. He pre-emptively decided that no one would appreciate his works in the way they were supposed to. It's why he has that massive stack of designs in his mancave just sitting there in Angel Exterminatus.
And also allows Fulgrim to goad him into making an entire stadium so Fulgrim can self-insert himself into a massive play to explain why they have to go find the Angel Exterminatus.
Nah he does make toys.
Just differently
I mean people collect things like
guns
for a reason
or make designs
Let’s slap 11 of our old books into one and resell it to the masses
What are more noble chapters like ultramarines or salamander's thoughts on berserkers? Brothers who are extremely vicious and passionate in combat?
Is it discouraged?
No they don’t really care
Salamanders and ultramarines can be equally viscous especially their Horus heresy brothers
Like world eaters type rage
Ultramarines in 30k especially before guilliman were found were absolute fucking mad men
Even had a version of the dreadwing
Basically
Noble chapter
War crime with flamethrower
Can't be a war crime if the government says it's ok
Does skittari do minions ?
No
Skitarii are the minions
They're the rank and file of a mechanicus combat force
Eh, they're not often minions, they're still autonomous troops
It works for the allegory (or whatever literary device its called)
Admech minions are Servitors, Adseculari, Guardian Skulls.
But they're mostly minions/familiars to Tech Priest
If we consider mounts as familiars then there's their dogs though
I want more Serbery variants 
How many different names do we have for robot dog
Also the new 30k Skitarii aren't doing it for me, could work for some Ash Waste Nomads though
Cybercanid (Admech)
Cybermastiff (general)
Gunhounds (Inquisition)
Cyberwolf (Space Wolf)
Cyber Jackal (Sister of Silence)
Cybercanid are so cool though.
They're given as young pup to Skitarii and those that are matching well with theirs are sent to the Serbery Corp, they both get augmented and the dog is transformed into a horse.
I want a Serbery marshal that ride on a bear 
I just had the strangest dream
a cop was about to arrest me and i said "Dont worry officer this is all worthless, ill just open a quicksave and reload before i did any of this and erase you from this reality"
💀
anime villain ahh shit
The equivalent of finding an annoying NPC
saving
and then shooting them in the face
the best part was the motorcycle cop's reaction to this was:
"Ah welp not much I can do"

girl accepted her death
Tbf, either they're speaking the truth, and you won't remember it.
Or you're speaking to somebody who's crazy.
either way not my problem anymore

No like, i had a literal menu pop up on my screen as I disappeared

So, did they shoot ?
Literally.
No it was like some minor crime lmao
i think littering
i aint gonna pay the cops shit
Dispatch devs were able to get Karlach's sister into the game
She's cool too
Man, that's quite a few cool announcements we got last night
tons of stuff
Hello Beorg from AoS 🤝
So when that one was published we argued on whether or not it was a Fox, or a squirrel
Which one would you say that thing is (other than being cute)
My reaction most of the time. So much Slanesh stuff going on occasionally around this discord server. 
Hella funny
guy's first exposure to the internet
It's ironic that last nights reveals are the best we've had in quite a while, but the actual stream was a complete shit show
Good thing I slept through it 
The audio was a complete mess and it got so bad they had to take a technical difficulties break for 20 minutes to fix it
and then when the stream came back the audio was even worse
So they just gave up and continued with the bad audio
^
imagine waiting/sitting to listen to those 2 guys
Yeah there do be a lot of folks masturbating in the corner
also my theory for why Chairon wasn't included in the wardens of ultramar kit is that he'll probably get his standalone character kit. A lieutenant or similar role
Dude they somehow returned back it was worse
Why was the audio so f****** bad
Mmmm
Leota
I think
I think I may
Slightly hate leota. For no fault of her own
I have issues

Eh it was just one scene anyway
But earlier on I was like
Weirdly annoyed
Who the fuck is Leota
Ray Leota
💀
Leota Adebayo
Literally the best character in the series..
I don't got time to spell that shit
racist fuck
I AM BLACK
Homies from the other dimension
speaking of hating Peacemaker characers, I hated Vigilante
I loved him
so did everyone honestly
what did you hate about him, his Deadpoolism?
I liked it because it came off as more unique too
deadpool does nothing but not shut the fuck up and make stupid jokes
Vig is more like a weird jeffrey dahmer character that isnt a horrible person with more depth
(mostly)
I think I find myself annoyed with adebayo because she looks a little bit like my mother.
nahhh 💀
💀
he had some funny scenes which were more so funny because he's just stupid
I'm being fr
Well yeah thats the joke
hes very much a sociopath
with like some redeeming qualities
My mother is. Uniquely stupid at times
being a sociopath and stupid aren't the same!!
😭
the best bit was him thinking his dad|| wasn't gay in the other universe but rather than not being gay he probably just lives in the closet and he would never be smart enough to get that||
||Yeah that was the implication a lot of people came up with since he seemed very dead inside lol||
also id argue ||the best bit was his dumbass mindset that all the millions of dollars he stocked up is "blood money" as every one of the cast starts stealing them lmfao||
ngl id do the same shit so uh 
but again ||I hate fucking multiverse storylines and now all of nu-DCU is wrapped in that shit already RAAAAH||
I quite like Vigilante more than Deadpool tbh.
Same, the personalities are just way more different Theres a reason the only scene I ever loved in Deadpool 3 was when Logan tells Wade to shut the fuck up.
I hate em too but here it was done well
it had lasting consequences on the characters and set up future stuff that wasnt shit ala Antman lol
I didn't even watch the later antman movie
good lmao
i stopped after Endgame, thank fuck
only show im hype for is Daredevil Born Again's Season 2 which is actually great
says a lot that the main cast literally protested to have the entire plot be rewritten
More often than not DPool is just 4th wall break jokes and thinking that are all over the place, going from dumb to smart and back again just for quips
I really like how Gunn writes characters but his overarching storylines are often very mid or uninteresting, except for Superman, that was good all over. But Peacemaker's both seasons the main storyline was the weakest part in them, same thing with suicide squad
Very much disagreed.
the bug invasion, wack. Multiverse shit, wack
the carry-over content he brings from previous installments is always great and explores way more shit
also yeah welcome to comic books
people do this shit in-universe and forget it a day later, just like massive kaiju attacks

theres very much nothing wrong with this stuff
Nothing wrong but it's nothing great either, very safe and uninteresting
Its mostly due to the fact that its a vehicle for character exploration.
Both these seasons are just exploring how much of a fucked life Chris has compared to a butterfly world takeover tbh
but it doesn't mean the story can be made better as well!!
you say that but you complain about the exact same shit with heresy.. which applies there as well
I mean no because the HH barely has any interesting characters
and is extended to be a cashgrab series
It's too late now
Would need a full reset or something
people soyjack about Loyalist No.2102 killing Generic Traitor Marine no.2910 every book
HH is like the Star Wars prequels if you extended them to be 60 movies
they're novelisations of comic book stories
Ehhhh nah
That's actually funny, I barely read.
what does that have to do with anything
the closest comic ones are the stuff Abnett writes
since well, hes a literal comic book writer lol
well yes
Also a comic book is usually more concise because they arent given 300 pages
just 300 issues
and even a Issue series is shorter than most 30k slop
Well the fact that I just play Warhammer 40k games, but can't be bothered reading that much. Too much work. I might read a book or two but the whole damn lore archives worth of books and stories?! Nah
I will kill Mr. Bones 40k
||I am joking||
Easier for my feeble brain to comprehend
Average marine fan moment
at least you recognize that fact, doesn't apply to most
His earlier stuff was great
Yeah he kinda fell off afterwards
or whenever he does positive "hey this shit is cool" content
the issue is
thats when Pancreas popped up
so i was like "Why even watch this guy
That's important
Best to get the bias out of the way and turn it into meme
Oh.. it's late
🫡
dope
😭
The fact that both of their suits are made out of what remains of the suit of their third bondmate
the design's very cool
Oooh thats cool
Is the blue part or the white part their bondmate's suit
Id assume so, it has seeming battle damage
The Blue part I'd assume
Since she was their commander and it looks the more intricate part
They also both have half of her dagger
I was also thinking about this but didn't see the exact same shape in those ribbons
oh its half of both, damn thats peak
Unless there's more ribbons behind them
Ye, but could be something Tau then
ye
They're so godamn cool
Oooh good catch
Did you miss all the AoS releases or what
^
but they should ahve mentioned it was for AoS
Don't forget the chaos dwarves
oh yeah them too
maggotkin is fine but i cant use them in 40k
You must be used to dissapointment with GW trust me, never expect anything 
Also the way they both have this piece on their chest implies that's were she got stabbed
Year of Chaos, like hasn't it been 2 years since that 🤷
i already been. we have been eating dirth for 4 years as death guard
I wasn't considering using named characters in my list but damnit Twin Lance is so godamn cool
it's clearly year of Ultramar
you literally got one of the best ranges in the entire miniature line
let the loyalists get the slop-bloat
oh this makes sense
oh so more ultramarine related content you say?
Feel like this one has been a bait and switch
Got fooled
100%
love how they followed that up with the Sloptide of Calgar and other Shitramar minis a week or so ago
GW is doing supervillain tier shit

they would've probably had all the UM stuff for this reveal if some of it hadn't leaked beforehand
tbh doesnt make much of a difference
would still be released close to each other
not like GW gives a shit
not for most but for the people being pissed about it it does 
pissed about ultramarine releases that is
the new ctan mini would have been actually interesting if people didn't leak the stuff so 
is that a bad thing
yeah
especially when this is the people that buy them:
depends
these people get all this shit then have the gall to complain when stuff gets sent to legends
they are like Harry Potter's step-brother
"BUT LAST YEAR I HAD 50 MINIS"

to be fair, UM haven't really had minis since 8th edition launch days
0_0
Looking at it Nurgle was the AoS chaos faction that needed a refresh the least
but marines in general yeah
and they got the fattest of refreshes
what did GW mean by this
yeah REALLY FAT refresh
Sickening levels of corpulence
I mean look at these guys they look like Caseoh if he decided to be a villain
Actually Speaking of putrid Blightkings I've seen people have been mixed in
Like if you had to rank the four classic monogod factions in AoS that needed a refresh it would be
Tzeentch
Khorne
Slaanesh
Nurgle
this applies to 40k too lol
its insane how much love Nurgle gets
meanwhile Khorne sitting in the ditch
(good)
it's the most interesting designwise 
That's because Papa nurgle loves you
Dude it has to be the games
All chaos designs can be interesting
you guys are just mid

He was featured in a lot of warhammer games
blue/pink horrors kinda suck
That's because he's easy to represent
What I very much like about this Nurgle release is that there are different aspect of it that aren't shown much before:
- Sloven Knight: Boredom/Apathy
- Rotsword: Mania
Oh
Damnit was trying to post the pics of the new models and automod must have stopped it
Oh right
Tzeentch need some new infantry, the Tzeentch Arcanite aren't really that good looking.
And the Tzaangor 💀 look great but I'd rather have some human infantry
Like these guy are peak
what I love is how they also look nothing like say Death Guard, the aesthetic difference is great
Rotsword are actually great because now you have the guys that are below Blightkings
These were my favourites
and the horses are fucking revolting
Oh the dark water blighted templars are good
ye
don't forget the pestigors though
bruh those bellypot stomachs are gnarly i hate it
AoS design team must have found the best designer in the world and the clause for hiring them was "You have to let me make as much Nurgle stuff as I want"
"I'll make Ushoran for you, but then I'm going right back to Nurgle"
i wish we could use these in 40k
I love that there are two types the dark water ones look like they haven't gained the favor of their God yet so they use a shield to supplement their toughness but then you just go to the main table top one and
ugh
It's disgusting man
they use nothing but giant weapons because they don't need Shields
I think it is moreso that Nurgle is way more versatile than the other 3, so the design team is able to go into more stuff.
And that the narrative/writing teams are in the same way
I wonder what Sept the Twin Lance hail from, i usually see people put that blue-green on N'dras
I know they're supposed to be septless but
you want physical strength he can deliver just not as good as Khorne but he delivers
you want corrupting people?
he ain't slannesh but he can offer you solace in the fact that the world is dark
He can do magic not the best magic just incredibly gross plague inducing magic but it's magic
i'm not really seeing how nurgle is more versatile
They probably used to be N'dras, but then became universal after their ascension, so they changed their armour but didn't modify the armour of their fallen bondmate
Has a lot of themes:
- Bugs, flies, maggots and such
- Bloating
- Any riff on a disease (Here we see Mania)
- Rust and rot
On the other hand, Khorne:
- Blood
- Skull (not used much)
- Martial\Berserkers
- Hounds
He can also do the things other gods do not the best mind you but he can do them like I said
bulls
Thats what im saying yeah
literally every chaos god can have weird creative designs
saying Nurgle is the most versatile is very incorrect imo
Yea I feel like all of the Gods are as versatile, the design teams just don't fully use that versatility
^^
this is it
They likely go Nurgle because he has more market appeal
and has been dominant since 8th edition
Easiest to be varied with 🤷
Hes really not
lol
look at any chaos artwork and you can see how creative some get with designs
Nurgle is the same as anyone else
Do you think we'll get the other khorne or slaanesh gores in the future?
we have Slaangors
the less beastmen the better
Could get more Slaangor tbh
I missed the slaangors?
gw is too cowardly to ever do anything interesting with slaanesh
Just had the one from the Infernal something for that boxed game
stop wasting resources on designing beastmen!! they all suck!!
incorrect, AOS has done a lot
Like we could get more varied Khorne AoS models that aren't shirtless barbarians with red scraps of cloth, they just don't put the same effort in
its just not used a lot
^^^^^^^^
Tbh, didn't thy try locking Slaanesh away in Aos?
"slaanesh is sexy demons but it's NOT A SEX THING GUYS"
Not really no
people read way too much into that
granted but you can no longer paint miniatures and no longer like Malorghurs
him being imprisoned isnt that much of a plotpoint as hes slowly breaking free
Yeah but she probably doesn't count it she doesn't like AOS after all 
Yea Slaanesh is locked away in the sense that they aren't currently eating the souls of every Elf the way she is with the Eldar in 40k, but they're still very much active
slaanesh is all excess, it's just pure coincidence that the only excess the daemons visually represent is horny excess
I mean not really
again, look up the Hedonites line
Slaanesh always had a huge Hellraiser aesthetic more than a sex one
Glutos Orscollion my goat
yes
Lord of gluttony and excess of food
ok fair, didn't know about this guy
Honestly, Slaanesh has got the "sexy" models and that guy who is gluttony in the flesh, so maybe we need a model that represents pride?
Slaanesh is one of the better realised Chaos factions in AoS
The Myrmidesh aren't that horny looking either tbh
Sigvald is right there
Like, maybe a collector or something like a builder.
why am i getting the skull? am i supposed to double down and try to argue that dude is also about sex or something?
OK convincing from Dilara didn't convince you but me showing a fat guy did
^^^^
True...
i was lookin shit up!
*Gyatvald
Infernal Enrapturess canonically kill you by playing Justin Bieber baby
the nipple piercing amulet is CRAZY
Like Hedonites need a little more love, but like it can wait a little while and still be fine, it's nowhere near as bad as Tzeentch and Khorne
Lmaoooo
Pride: Sigvald
Gluttony: Glutos
Lust:
Envy:
Wrath:
Sloth: (Slaanesh
)
Greed:
this one's pretty horny though
Going back to Nurgle not needing an upgrade I do think the current Maggotkin range is very weak, like one cool model and that's it. The new ones are almost all stellar instead
that horse rider dude has been carrying them for a few years now yeah lol
he summoned his homies finally
That
I once planned starting an AoS army and would've liked to do a Nurgle one but the Maggotkin range was so weak I abandoned the idea entirely
Tbh the human side was quite good, but the Plaguebearer/Daemon side could have used a refresh
Well funny now The thing is the new reveals fills in missing parts in the roster
which you would say were good ones from the human side?
and old at that
yeah the new minis are there to fill in missing stuff
^
the minis there are good
it just isnt proper "troop" stuff
most of these are like champions
I think only the first one is a good looking model, and it's the newest one in the range
besides that, Harbinger of Decay is absolutely stellar
but like this shit's horny, it's just not normal cishet horny
I mean... kinda?
Yeah you finally have Rotswords which are the lower infantry you bring in that are still tough you know you're chaos warriors, your chosen are the Blightkings
you need the sexual elements somewhat
it still isnt that in your face
like-
if you think thats horny
google some 3rd party slaanesh minis
lol
Rita Repulsa my beloved
those are horny in a tasteless fashion
Yeah that
Is it the leather that make you think that ?
GW got way more class with the slaanesh minis
Sloven knights finally give you cavalry
a lot of bare skin + literal fetishwear is pretty horny yeah
I mean 1 hand, Beastmen are pretty much always near naked
my objection isn't to the minis being horny, it's using kink as a shorthand for evil
But on the other it isn't really that horned up
It's also like not necessarily evil
the pretty pervasive depiction of androgyny as fucked up and evil is also pretty uncomfortable
Is Nurgle saying that being fat is evil, is Tzeentch saying that being smart is evil, is Khorne saying that getting angry is evil
I dont think evil has anything to do with that
with the khorne and tzeentch bits there are counterparts in the fiction that are meant to be heroic
evil is more about intent
with the fatness thing, kinda yeah, fatphobia is a pretty pervasive issue that people get uncomfortable talking about
than just different character traits
Themes that I'd like to see more in mini
Khorne:
- Mercenaries: Looking less like the muscly Warrior of Chaos, and instead set more around the Zorro like (Cutting you up in duels without just straight up using savage strength)
- Brass Sister: (Fantasy) Women that survived Raids from Warrior of Chaos that then started to hunt them, till they themselves just started raiding around (Maybe setting them more into lighter infantry and maybe some measure of range
- Bloodcursed: (Fantasy) Cursed Flayed warrior, just ending up as a blood puddle/ghost (Ghost infantry -> Total War)
since when was nurgle about being fat
I know the great unclean ones are chonky bois but i dont thnk the takeaway is just that they are fat
That's my point, it's taking a singular mundane aspect of a design philosophy and attributing malice to it
I need one thing for khorne
And that’s for the leader of the gorechosen to come back
Their fatness is more about being bloated than just fat-arses
And take his place as our “angron”
they're not even fat because of like eating or being a glutton or something they are fat because they are literally rotting
They are literally being bloated because they are rotting sacks of diseases
Their boddies are fat and bloated with flesh
Skarr Bloodwrath ?
Nurgle isn't evil because he's fat, Tzeentch isn't evil because he's smart, Khorne isn't evil because he has problems with emotional regulation, Slaanesh isn't evil because they're androgenous and kinda slutty.
Yeah he's a daemon Prince
This guy is around AOS but he just kills people
Yeah skarr is sadly just kinda braindead
But it is khorne
Isn't Khul more akin to Kharn ?
this only works for khorne and tzeentch, since seeking knowledge, being smart, anger and martial prowess are both abundantly present traits in the settings protagonists
Like the Gorechosen were created/federated under Skarr (Well before him in theory but he is the 1st Gorechosen/Skaramor character)
but androgyny, kink, and body types that aren't conventionally attractive are pretty absent in that regard
Khul has had alot of awesome stories and books with him battling (formerly) the main man of the stormcast vandus hammerhand in the realmgate wars
and to get ahead of an argument: i'm not saying 40k needs to be kinkier to balance it out
In the dawnbringer crusades he gets picked up by khorne and starts growing wings and he flies into the warp, we haven’t seen him since
Rumors say at the end of the EDITION he will return as a new daemon prince model
just that associating those traits exclusively with the bad guys sucks
I think the greater issue is attributing any one specific faction as "The bad guys"
There are bad guys in every faction in AoS
so is lord Calgar the leader of all the ultramarines?
he is chapter master or whatever
i know there aren't any good factions in 40k, but there are definitely good people
Yes but not the highest leader
Thats guilliman
He’s second to bobby
is guilliman the son of the emperor?
whos bobby?
Meme name for guilliman
ooh ok
Of course not. They're evil because they're different from us.
so let me get this straight, each space marine faction are lead by one of the emperors sons
Yep
they're not really biological sons
And they're more like tools
are the space marines made from the genes of the emperors sons?
Test tube sons built in a lab, but yeah
remind me what are the chaos gods supposed to represent again
ok so they are all inbred basically
"Only men shall receive my seed"
that takes the whole brother bonding theme they got going on a whole other level
Khorne - murder/blood/war/hate
slaanesh - excess/desire/perfection
nurgle- death/rot/life/decay
tzeentch- change/manipulation/treachery/magic
Kinda
Actually yeah, geneseed has become unstable over time and flaws have developed and become worse
It was one of the reasons for breaking up the legions.
gotcha
I dont often see perfection in the slaanesh part ngl
@urban spire How do you see those models ?
Flawless blades
Lucius the eternal
They strive to never lose
Shalaxi helbane
Ultimate hunter of slaanesh
Sigvald is also a perfectionist yea?
Perfection is more in the quest to perfection, where you're specialising in one art till it is going too far
Yep
do the sons of the emperor actually care about their space marines?
not just as tools of war
Depends on the son
Sigvald is more about pride in himself, and self-agrandizing
but as sons or brothers or whatever
they're neat
This is true
Most didn't care about most of their SM
I guess moreso perfection in his vanity rather than combat
does bobby g care about the ultramarines?
Cause he nods off
Mostly yes
Yes
He’s one of the better (maybe the best) primarchs
"best" being a relative term
nice, it reflects on how the ultramarines behave, they are so wholesome in space marine 2
Very relative
Wholesome is also relative
Except for their tantrums
Very very relative
Some of them absolutely love their space marines. A few hate them.
Guilliman would be on the higher end of loving his sons
The viewers/fans have kind of a biased view since like all the protags in this franchise are from the imperium so naturally we see more "good" imperials since we only see one perspective most of the time.
plenty of nonhuman perspective characters in 40k novels, those novels just aren't as popular because folks love their blorbos
True
The less you read the less you know
If you only read one factions PoV you’re reading propaganda
We need a psyker or witch who is just asleep in a bed.
Or something/someone doing a lullaby
Wtf these axes xD
Honestly, they could do that by modifying the pentient engines.
XDDDD somebody fanboying Kratos.
Doomseeker might be older than Kratos 💀
Dude i kid you not, i got into khorne because my friend and i saw the wrathmonger models and we started howling
“Are those dudes roided on crack swinging hammer-heads?”
“Yeah”
XD
Classic
In the early Age of Chaos, the Chaos Gods granted their followers many gifts to aid in the conquest of the Mortal Realms. One of Khorne's gifts to the first Bloodbound tribes were brass anvils of Khorne much like of his own to use both to forge ever more lethal weapons and as sacrificial altars: in return for smashing captives' skulls on the anvils, the tribes' weapons would be imbued with the raging heat of the Blood God's daemonic forge. [1a]
Bloodbound legends say that eventually, mysterious wanderers - the first Skullgrinders - came to Bloodbound camps and silently marched directly to the anvil-altars at their heart. Any who sought to stop these strangers were simply smashed aside, and the infernal light of the anvils grew brighter the closer they came. When a wanderer finally reached an anvil, they unwound lengths of brass chain from thin air. These chains, still glowing as if taken directly out of the forge-fires, were then attached to the anvils with thunderous strikes of the Skullgrinder's hammer. Seeing daemons dancing in the flames spewing from the anvil once this ritual was complete, the Bloodbound fell to their knees in worship. The Skullgrinders have been the guardians of the brazen anvils ever since.[
A man of culture i see
wholesome is crazy
He doesn’t know
The concept of kratos is older.
Doomseekers 2004
Also, did the ultramarines ever have a dreadnought character on the table.
hmm I am really considering reading the horus heresy books
bro has timestamps thats insane
but there are so many of them
God of War from Wikipedia seem to be 2005
64 books wtf
so id assume reading about the horus heresy will give you a very profound knowledge of space marines, the emperors sons, the empire as a whole etc
Fortunately GW is legit making a “speedrun series” for the HH with the more relevant books
Check that one out maybe
where is that
not out yet
but soon
Kratos was a real greek god/entity. His name just got used as Kratos for the GOW.
i think hes referring to the video game, not the literal greek character
Fair enough.
OK but the real guy also doesn't use things called the blades of chaos now don't doesn't he 





