#40k-lore-chat

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noble seal
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There’s no way Acheran would’ve pulled a Shrike and stepped down to let one of his subordinates take his place right?

lament shoal
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He doesn't care who does it or how

arctic talon
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Shrike wanted to do that the whole time he was chapter masster

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Acheran is "new"

noble seal
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Yeah, that’s fair.

lament shoal
rose thorn
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when do you think the 16 detachemtsn wilkl be realeased

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it could corrialte to new mdoels :3

languid meadow
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the warcom post says this

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he's fucking dead

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that or he's a Victrix now

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but mostly likely dead

arctic talon
humble shoal
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any kroot?

arctic talon
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The new tau suits feel very mecha slop

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lol

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they feel very very very gundam helmet wise

opaque coyote
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😭

rustic patrol
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Gundam wannabe mixed with Pokemon Polygon

opaque coyote
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To be honest I think the #1 thing that disappoints me about the T'au.

Well it's obvious about their lack of variety in terms of different races

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But also some of those races sound awesome

opaque coyote
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Wearing a gigantic suit of T'au power armor

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Wielding a giant fucking club

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Or sword

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Or whatever

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Do you know how fucking COOL that would be?

rustic patrol
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I would be wondering how it could support its own weight, the armor its now forced to wear, and whatever bs GW gives it

opaque coyote
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Imagine a giant fucking power armor suit manhandling a Knight.

Using a giant version of a T'au railcannon

opaque coyote
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Square Cube Law already got thrown away due to the Titans existing let's be fair here

rustic patrol
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those are designed to be giant walkers. I doubt the Vought evolved with the assumption they were going to be wearing a bunch of external armor.

opaque coyote
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To uh... Handwave it away

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Use the magical force of sci Fi bullshit

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It's not like 40k is accurate to our modern laws of physics anwyays

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We got Space Elves singing a material that they use for most of their weapons and armor

rustic patrol
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tbh, not every faction needs a Titan equivalent. Tau were fine with using their Mantas and Grav tanks.

LIke, the move to give every race a super heavy walker lead to that hideous Necron Seraptek.

Tau are a miniscule faction who're smaller than the Ultramarr sector. They shouldn't have the resources to go around deploying Titan-class units.

opaque coyote
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But

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That's just kind of an example of like

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There are (lore wise) several other races within the T'au empire

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They could interact uniquely with the technology they have also

storm jungle
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Oh hey there's already porn of Titus and the necrom

lament shoal
lament shoal
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No gooning allowed

queen laurel
rustic patrol
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the Slaanesh is spreading

storm jungle
lament shoal
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Only thing I hate about these reveal videos is the fact that the live chat is chock full of the whiniest bitches the human race has to offer

storm jungle
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Lmao

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NEVER

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EVER

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Look at ANY stream chat

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literal pack of monkeys

lament shoal
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Real

storm jungle
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ill never understand the purpose of it either

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they pass by so fast its like "why even comment"

opaque coyote
storm jungle
opaque coyote
rose thorn
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i am gona delete reddit for liek a week lmao

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i refuse to see reddits reaction to these rgeat reveals

lament shoal
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I'm sorry Dilara but

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I actually like the Ultramarines

storm jungle
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Im sorry but

rose thorn
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me too

storm jungle
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I think you need to be hospitalized for your own sake

rose thorn
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LOOK HERES THE GOOD ISDE OF THE ULTRAMRIENS REVEALS

storm jungle
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ill prep your shock therapy session

rose thorn
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YOU CAN KITBASH YOUR OCS

lament shoal
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YOU'LL NEVER CATCH ME

rose thorn
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AND URN IT AS THAT 500 NAMED CAHRACTERS UNIT

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
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First thing you see is a shirtless Ogryn in his undies run by

daring creek
lament shoal
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He's running from Hadron because she found out he chewed off the barrel of his gun after she finished performing maintenance on it

daring creek
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I swear it is

opaque coyote
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Go to a different subreddit

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More like 4chan lite

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Except you can actually ignore the racism

paper haven
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Aren't there like, 10 people in charge of about 80 percent of the subreddits or something crazy like that?

lament shoal
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Imma check the ultramarines subreddit to see what they're saying about the reveals

opaque coyote
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Same 5 people moderate 92 of the most popular subreddits

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Still bad but not as bad as you said

storm jungle
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Literal administratum shit

lament shoal
opaque coyote
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...

opaque coyote
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Although considering Reddit Mods, they would 100% have that if it was allowed

storm jungle
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generic ass space marine no.3

opaque coyote
rustic patrol
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would make plasma gunners the mvp of the rejects lol

sacred bluff
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what is 500 worlds

storm jungle
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its the new Ultramar campaign

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some more slop basically

rustic patrol
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but like ff is on for Tyranids in SM2

although not always a good thing

sucks when the execute target you wanted to get back health with gets euthanized by a VC Warrior

daring creek
rustic patrol
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everyone gets Iron halos apparently

daring creek
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Their job must literally be moderation

storm jungle
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well yeah its tradition

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also modellers dont give a fuck about consistency

rustic patrol
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its a power trip I bet

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you think the reason gadriel doesn't get one is because he almost pulled a Leandros, or is it because he's flexing 'cuz he's got the banner? Like, on purpose he didn't get an IH because he already deployed without a helmet, but now he's got to show he's even more bad ass by going with less protection.

storm jungle
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Okay so to be blunt

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literally none of the modellers give a shit about any of that stuff

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its just down to "is this gonna look cool and make people buy them"

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actual narrative touches to models UNLESS like some super well known thing (ala a lost limb or whatever) is very rare lol

rustic patrol
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ffs, they charge like +$100 for a different weapon/gear attachment on a model. The least they can do is make it mean something lol

storm jungle
lament shoal
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Waiter! Waiter! 500 billion more ultramarines please!

wintry cloud
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he now has a stoic face

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good

storm jungle
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kill all space marine fans

wintry cloud
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yeah dudes are furious that ultramarines got more stuff

storm jungle
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LOL

wintry cloud
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but dang
those models are cool

rustic patrol
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I can't look at the word "stoic" and not think about abusing alcohol to get rid of bullets now

wintry cloud
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they look insanely cool

storm jungle
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ngl i legit am just here to take the human ultramops for character references

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the others can play with their toys i guess

wintry cloud
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I just like warhammer as a concept
I rlly dont care much

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but seeing people mald is fun

storm jungle
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to be fair warhammer is a nice concept

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but it should have more beyond space marines

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its why the Necromunda reveals for example are peak

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so diverse and different

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i love it

wintry cloud
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okay true I will never argue with the fact that space marines---and ultramarines have quintuple the content of the other factions

storm jungle
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its fine ill survive as long as we get more Munda

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bro has the chinese worker-catcher stick

rustic patrol
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"buh buh when we tried all that ages ago it didn't sell well! That's why we have to make Starshiptroopes in knight armour!" - GW

wintry cloud
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the reveals today were all amazing

storm jungle
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deffo

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wig-skull 🫡

rustic patrol
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George Washingskull

storm jungle
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💀

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bruh moment

rustic patrol
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Bone Franklin

wintry cloud
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also i forget but what happened to Titus' other companion in SM2? with the robot arm?

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cause he isnt here

storm jungle
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We dont know, they'll reveal it NEXT WEEK

wintry cloud
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lmao..........

rustic patrol
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what other founding father names can I butcher (insert pooh bear thinking gif)

storm jungle
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the real reason is Titus has more marketing value

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so its prob why they are getting sidelined

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or just for another future reveal

wintry cloud
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welp in SM3 we can expect him to have his aura cape i guess

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he may duel a C'tan shard

storm jungle
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also fighting necrons is basically confirmed now which is nice

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yeah that lol

daring creek
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I thought Titus died

storm jungle
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yeah he did, I killed him

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he unfortunately survived

daring creek
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But gw needs to juice him more

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He on that path to redemption

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Or something!!!

storm jungle
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on that path to RED dead redemption

daring creek
rustic patrol
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He's supposed to be on the path to corruption if the original script writers story is being followed.

storm jungle
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nah its not

daring creek
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Society.

storm jungle
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its been completely scrapped since SM2 came out

daring creek
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It would've been cool

rustic patrol
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but if he doesn't die or get corrupted, GW's gonna milk him for more games

storm jungle
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^

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also speaking of corruption

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Abaddon at the back like a sitcom lackey is killing me

wintry cloud
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honestly
I may actually read this series

rustic patrol
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I forgot that he has black armour for some reason when Luna Wolves > Sons of Horus are white

wintry cloud
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cause I am NOT reading the entire heresy

storm jungle
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Oh no yeah read the first 3 books 100% they are great

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After that consult this video

rustic patrol
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Read Angel Exterminatus. Not because it's good, but because it's hilariously bad.

storm jungle
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Ian is BRUTALLY honest and doesnt glaze

wintry cloud
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arbitor goat

storm jungle
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you at best need to read like 10 or 15 max

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anyone who says you gotta read like 50 to 60 is a lobotomite lol

rustic patrol
storm jungle
rose thorn
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500 worlds yet only 5 new space marines…

wintry cloud
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yeah thats his name

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he hates chaos

storm jungle
lament shoal
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I like him he's funny lol

storm jungle
rose thorn
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I’m so fucking excited for another Genestealer cult foot hero

storm jungle
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Lmao MAG

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STOP IT

rose thorn
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What did I dooo

storm jungle
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no genegooning allowed

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rose thorn
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Damn

lament shoal
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The magus baddie is letting me hit

rose thorn
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Any word on when the 500 worlds thing is happening?

rose thorn
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Wait

rustic patrol
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honestly, with the Plague war, the Tyranid invasion, the 13th Black Crusade, and now this Necron thing when has Ultramar NOT been under iminent threat?

rose thorn
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and a book of six new Warhammer 40,000 Detachments for the Space Marines and Necrons.

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No

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This can’t be right

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It’s 9th edition all over again

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9th edition 2.0

sacred ginkgo
storm jungle
lament shoal
storm jungle
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"Largest" is being a bit generous

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📏

rustic patrol
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At this point, this should be another Tuesday imho

storm jungle
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I do love tho how in the trailer they do the 9th edition thing

sacred ginkgo
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It is another tuesday

storm jungle
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aka a glorious speech about how everything is fucked

sacred ginkgo
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Which means ultramarines get a new box and characters

storm jungle
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that "A golden age we'll never achieve again" is peak

lament shoal
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They did that in 10th too

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With Gman's speech

storm jungle
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wait meant 10th yeah lmao

lament shoal
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Yea lol

storm jungle
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peopel were so upset by that

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because everyone keeps herofying guilliman saying he's gonna fix everything, then he himself says "Nah fam its all fucked, im just putting duct tapes."

lament shoal
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That nids were ripping apart marines like nothing yeah lmao

storm jungle
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shoutout to my librarian homie getting psychic attacked with tyranid r34 art

near wasp
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I fucked up

near wasp
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I accidentally talked my buddy and his wife into a vampire the mascerade game

storm jungle
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Lmaoooo

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based

near wasp
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Help

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;-;

rustic patrol
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Is that a crit fail on persuasion, or a crit success?

lament shoal
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Dilara when are we getting a jokaero kill team

storm jungle
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god i hope soon

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also you joke

storm jungle
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but its pretty likely lol

lament shoal
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MONKE

storm jungle
near wasp
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I wish I knew but I'm gonna be the story teller

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I'm thinking I just do LA or NY

storm jungle
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Better get to reading those VTM codexes boy KEKW_ogryn

near wasp
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Fuckkkkkkkkk

lament shoal
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I would 100% buy the monkey kill team idc if it ends up being shit

storm jungle
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ngl the best part of not playing tabletop for me is any time a mini reveal drops i just steal them for art references

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so i agree lol

near wasp
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Curse you drunk joseph why must you do think ;+;

storm jungle
near wasp
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Yes I have

rose thorn
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Wasn’t there some reveal coming up soon

storm jungle
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okay good, was gonna say you should check out the ending bit where he explains how to play the game

storm jungle
near wasp
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I know how to play

rose thorn
storm jungle
near wasp
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I'm just creativity bankrupt

storm jungle
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same bro

near wasp
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I'm just gonna stick to vtm tbh

storm jungle
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id suggest going on the VTM subreddit and making a thread asking for some assistance too btw

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the people there are REALLY nice and helpful lol

near wasp
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I understand the game enough to probably run it I just am not good at writing

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Because self doubt eats away at my zoul

storm jungle
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Yeah like i said say that you got self-doubt too

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i had a thread once where i was asking what to do for a friend shitting on me for wanting to play a Ventrue

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and the amount of supportful/helpful comments i got was nuts

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the users can prob give you some tips

near wasp
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Yeahhhh my main issue is probably npcs

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That's probably where doing a setting like NY or La will help

storm jungle
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yeah mention all of that in like a medium sized paragraph of text, theres tons of users ther ethat have similiar issues

near wasp
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Anyways the gin is kicking in

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To sleepy dimension I go.

storm jungle
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🫡

near wasp
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Love y'all wish me luck on my self created problems

wintry cloud
lament shoal
rose thorn
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i think im gonna expel rumors wihtout pictures from my mind, its a bitter disease

storm jungle
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essentially just psychic overload since he tried to solo a Super-Psyker tyranid, reminder that this thing can literally place dreams into peoples minds and play 4D chess lol

lament shoal
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Gotcha, ty

storm jungle
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🫡

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its also not a neurothrope its a neurotyrant

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which is like gigantic KEKW_ogryn

languid meadow
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He's slimy

storm jungle
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Not a fan of this artstyle

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older one was better

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its like if Belakor put on clown makeup

outer wave
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Clown Bel'Akor

rustic patrol
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Bel'oker

opaque coyote
lament shoal
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He needs to see an orthodontist

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Get some braces

wind hornet
languid meadow
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They did yeah

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Absolute Joker is an actual monster thing

wintry cloud
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Not sure if i enjoy daemon prince joker but i may need to get used to it

wind hornet
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Idk maybe the story does something interesting with it

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But seems pretty dumb on the surface

median star
opaque coyote
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Don't be mean!

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Tyranids love eating so much they forget to brush their teeth

lament shoal
valid needle
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Big Titus is back

wintry cloud
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Indeed

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And he’s aura farming

wind hornet
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They really are making him John Spacemarine huh

surreal nest
storm jungle
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so basically every comic book

wind hornet
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Basically, but like for joker specifically the whole point is like he's a smart but normal'ish guy

forest orbit
wind hornet
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So what advantage is there to making him a monster

storm jungle
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also there isnt an "advantage", its a detriment to him that he constantly needs ot keep in check

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thankfully hes a super-billionaire compared to Bruce whos basically a bluecollar worker dude, the advantage gap is kinda the focus point

rose thorn
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Looks like someone redrew ai art

storm jungle
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I HATE how smooth it is

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like this was perfect

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it looks creepy as hell and the heavy shadows compliment him a ton

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then you got smoothskin jonkler belakor

wind hornet
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whats that dude from spawn, he kinda looks like that

storm jungle
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Violator

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what a name

valid needle
valid needle
storm jungle
valid needle
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The repeat Violators?

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Based

paper haven
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They have to tell their neighbors they're on the national registry in most states

dusky beacon
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i really hope with the 500 Worlds stuff they dont forget to mention the rapidly expanding Xenos Empire on the border of Ultramar

outer wave
opaque coyote
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Dorn and Perturabo circa 31st millenium

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(It is up to you which gets their toys exploded)

rustic patrol
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Perturabo never made toys. He pre-emptively decided that no one would appreciate his works in the way they were supposed to. It's why he has that massive stack of designs in his mancave just sitting there in Angel Exterminatus.

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And also allows Fulgrim to goad him into making an entire stadium so Fulgrim can self-insert himself into a massive play to explain why they have to go find the Angel Exterminatus.

opaque coyote
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Just differently

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I mean people collect things like

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guns

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for a reason

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or make designs

valid needle
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Let’s slap 11 of our old books into one and resell it to the masses

vital ginkgo
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What are more noble chapters like ultramarines or salamander's thoughts on berserkers? Brothers who are extremely vicious and passionate in combat?

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Is it discouraged?

valid needle
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No they don’t really care

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Salamanders and ultramarines can be equally viscous especially their Horus heresy brothers

vital ginkgo
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Like world eaters type rage

valid needle
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Ultramarines in 30k especially before guilliman were found were absolute fucking mad men

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Even had a version of the dreadwing

vital ginkgo
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Ok

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As long as they get the job done then

valid needle
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Basically

celest dome
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Noble chapter
War crime with flamethrower

vital ginkgo
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Can't be a war crime if the government says it's ok

ember reef
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Does skittari do minions ?

sacred ginkgo
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No

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Skitarii are the minions

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They're the rank and file of a mechanicus combat force

celest dome
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Eh, they're not often minions, they're still autonomous troops

sacred ginkgo
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It works for the allegory (or whatever literary device its called)

celest dome
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Admech minions are Servitors, Adseculari, Guardian Skulls.
But they're mostly minions/familiars to Tech Priest

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If we consider mounts as familiars then there's their dogs though

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I want more Serbery variants Sitgryn

sacred ginkgo
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How many different names do we have for robot dog

celest dome
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Also the new 30k Skitarii aren't doing it for me, could work for some Ash Waste Nomads though

sacred ginkgo
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We have cyber mastiff, cyber canid, cyber wolf

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What else is there

celest dome
celest dome
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Cybercanid are so cool though.
They're given as young pup to Skitarii and those that are matching well with theirs are sent to the Serbery Corp, they both get augmented and the dog is transformed into a horse.

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I want a Serbery marshal that ride on a bear chadgryn

storm jungle
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I just had the strangest dream

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a cop was about to arrest me and i said "Dont worry officer this is all worthless, ill just open a quicksave and reload before i did any of this and erase you from this reality"

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💀

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anime villain ahh shit

opaque coyote
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saving

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and then shooting them in the face

storm jungle
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"Ah welp not much I can do"

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girl accepted her death

opaque coyote
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either way not my problem anymore

storm jungle
storm jungle
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i think littering

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i aint gonna pay the cops shit

celest cedar
cinder pivot
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Dispatch devs were able to get Karlach's sister into the game

cinder pivot
cinder pivot
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She's cool too

shadow plover
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Man, that's quite a few cool announcements we got last night

storm jungle
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tons of stuff

celest dome
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Hello Beorg from AoS 🤝

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So when that one was published we argued on whether or not it was a Fox, or a squirrel

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Which one would you say that thing is (other than being cute)

dire loom
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Hella funny

storm jungle
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guy's first exposure to the internet

rocky gale
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It's ironic that last nights reveals are the best we've had in quite a while, but the actual stream was a complete shit show

shadow plover
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Good thing I slept through it cool

rocky gale
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The audio was a complete mess and it got so bad they had to take a technical difficulties break for 20 minutes to fix it

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and then when the stream came back the audio was even worse

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So they just gave up and continued with the bad audio

storm jungle
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imagine waiting/sitting to listen to those 2 guys

valid needle
shadow plover
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also my theory for why Chairon wasn't included in the wardens of ultramar kit is that he'll probably get his standalone character kit. A lieutenant or similar role

valid needle
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Probably

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Considering his back story is pretty big

queen laurel
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Why was the audio so f****** bad

daring creek
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Mmmm

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Leota

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I think

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I think I may

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Slightly hate leota. For no fault of her own

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I have issues

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Eh it was just one scene anyway

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But earlier on I was like

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Weirdly annoyed

storm jungle
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Who the fuck is Leota

rocky gale
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Ray Leota

storm jungle
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💀

daring creek
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Leota Adebayo

storm jungle
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SAY ADEBAYO THEN

shadow plover
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Literally the best character in the series..

daring creek
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I don't got time to spell that shit

storm jungle
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racist fuck

daring creek
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I AM BLACK

storm jungle
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nuh uh

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Also you can also call her Ads like Peacemaker does

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smh my head

rocky gale
shadow plover
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speaking of hating Peacemaker characers, I hated Vigilante

storm jungle
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I loved him

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so did everyone honestly

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what did you hate about him, his Deadpoolism?

shadow plover
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that pretty much

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it was too much

storm jungle
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I liked it because it came off as more unique too

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deadpool does nothing but not shut the fuck up and make stupid jokes

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Vig is more like a weird jeffrey dahmer character that isnt a horrible person with more depth

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(mostly)

daring creek
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I think I find myself annoyed with adebayo because she looks a little bit like my mother.

storm jungle
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nahhh 💀

daring creek
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💀

shadow plover
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he had some funny scenes which were more so funny because he's just stupid

daring creek
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I'm being fr

storm jungle
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hes very much a sociopath

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with like some redeeming qualities

daring creek
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My mother is. Uniquely stupid at times

shadow plover
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being a sociopath and stupid aren't the same!!

storm jungle
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it is!!!

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he cannot read people

daring creek
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😭

shadow plover
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the best bit was him thinking his dad|| wasn't gay in the other universe but rather than not being gay he probably just lives in the closet and he would never be smart enough to get that||

storm jungle
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||Yeah that was the implication a lot of people came up with since he seemed very dead inside lol||

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also id argue ||the best bit was his dumbass mindset that all the millions of dollars he stocked up is "blood money" as every one of the cast starts stealing them lmfao||

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ngl id do the same shit so uh staregryn

shadow plover
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but again ||I hate fucking multiverse storylines and now all of nu-DCU is wrapped in that shit already RAAAAH||

celest dome
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I quite like Vigilante more than Deadpool tbh.

storm jungle
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Same, the personalities are just way more different Theres a reason the only scene I ever loved in Deadpool 3 was when Logan tells Wade to shut the fuck up.

storm jungle
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it had lasting consequences on the characters and set up future stuff that wasnt shit ala Antman lol

shadow plover
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I didn't even watch the later antman movie

storm jungle
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good lmao

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i stopped after Endgame, thank fuck

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only show im hype for is Daredevil Born Again's Season 2 which is actually great

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says a lot that the main cast literally protested to have the entire plot be rewritten

celest dome
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More often than not DPool is just 4th wall break jokes and thinking that are all over the place, going from dumb to smart and back again just for quips

shadow plover
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I really like how Gunn writes characters but his overarching storylines are often very mid or uninteresting, except for Superman, that was good all over. But Peacemaker's both seasons the main storyline was the weakest part in them, same thing with suicide squad

storm jungle
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Very much disagreed.

shadow plover
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the bug invasion, wack. Multiverse shit, wack

storm jungle
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the carry-over content he brings from previous installments is always great and explores way more shit

storm jungle
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people do this shit in-universe and forget it a day later, just like massive kaiju attacks

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theres very much nothing wrong with this stuff

shadow plover
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Nothing wrong but it's nothing great either, very safe and uninteresting

storm jungle
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Its mostly due to the fact that its a vehicle for character exploration.

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Both these seasons are just exploring how much of a fucked life Chris has compared to a butterfly world takeover tbh

shadow plover
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but it doesn't mean the story can be made better as well!!

storm jungle
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Its comic book stuff its fiiiiiiiine

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ive seen way worse

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see DCAU

shadow plover
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you say that but you complain about the exact same shit with heresy.. which applies there as well

storm jungle
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I mean no because the HH barely has any interesting characters

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and is extended to be a cashgrab series

dire loom
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Would need a full reset or something

storm jungle
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people soyjack about Loyalist No.2102 killing Generic Traitor Marine no.2910 every book

dire loom
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Some of it is good though

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Well DC stuff in general

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IMO

storm jungle
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HH is like the Star Wars prequels if you extended them to be 60 movies

shadow plover
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they're novelisations of comic book stories

storm jungle
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Ehhhh nah

dire loom
storm jungle
storm jungle
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since well, hes a literal comic book writer lol

shadow plover
#

well yes

storm jungle
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Also a comic book is usually more concise because they arent given 300 pages

shadow plover
#

just 300 issues

storm jungle
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and even a Issue series is shorter than most 30k slop

storm jungle
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get outta here

dire loom
dire loom
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Just wanna shoot stuff

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Or smack stuff

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Or bonk

shadow plover
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I will kill Mr. Bones 40k

dire loom
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It's interesting but too much sometimes

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That's why I watch the lore YouTube channels

shadow plover
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||I am joking||

dire loom
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Easier for my feeble brain to comprehend

shadow plover
#

average 40k fan moment

dire loom
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Even if half or more or all of it is wrong

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The memes are my source

storm jungle
shadow plover
storm jungle
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god i hate his content

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glad i stopped watching him

shadow plover
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His earlier stuff was great

storm jungle
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Yeah he kinda fell off afterwards

shadow plover
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or whenever he does positive "hey this shit is cool" content

storm jungle
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the issue is

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thats when Pancreas popped up

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so i was like "Why even watch this guy

storm jungle
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hes also way more better and brutally honest

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and makes his biases clear lmao

dire loom
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That's important

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Best to get the bias out of the way and turn it into meme

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Oh.. it's late

storm jungle
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🫡

urban spire
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dope

storm jungle
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😭

rocky gale
#

The fact that both of their suits are made out of what remains of the suit of their third bondmate

shadow plover
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the design's very cool

misty vector
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Oooh thats cool

celest dome
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Is the blue part or the white part their bondmate's suit

storm jungle
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Id assume so, it has seeming battle damage

rocky gale
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The Blue part I'd assume

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Since she was their commander and it looks the more intricate part

celest dome
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🤔

rocky gale
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They also both have half of her dagger

shadow plover
# celest dome

I was also thinking about this but didn't see the exact same shape in those ribbons

storm jungle
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oh its half of both, damn thats peak

shadow plover
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Unless there's more ribbons behind them

celest dome
shadow plover
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ye

dusky beacon
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They're so godamn cool

misty vector
pseudo fox
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year of chaos they said

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the plans they said

shadow plover
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Did you miss all the AoS releases or what

storm jungle
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^

pseudo fox
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but they should ahve mentioned it was for AoS

storm jungle
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this is fucking PACKED

queen laurel
storm jungle
pseudo fox
storm jungle
rocky gale
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Also the way they both have this piece on their chest implies that's were she got stabbed

celest dome
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Year of Chaos, like hasn't it been 2 years since that 🤷

pseudo fox
dusky beacon
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I wasn't considering using named characters in my list but damnit Twin Lance is so godamn cool

hallow saddle
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it's clearly year of Ultramar

storm jungle
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let the loyalists get the slop-bloat

queen laurel
storm jungle
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needs more invasions

shadow plover
#

oh so more ultramarine related content you say?

celest dome
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Got fooled

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100%

storm jungle
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love how they followed that up with the Sloptide of Calgar and other Shitramar minis a week or so ago

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GW is doing supervillain tier shit

shadow plover
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they would've probably had all the UM stuff for this reveal if some of it hadn't leaked beforehand

storm jungle
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tbh doesnt make much of a difference

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would still be released close to each other

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not like GW gives a shit

shadow plover
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not for most but for the people being pissed about it it does pupper

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pissed about ultramarine releases that is

queen laurel
storm jungle
shadow plover
#

yeah

storm jungle
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especially when this is the people that buy them:

shadow plover
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depends

storm jungle
#

these people get all this shit then have the gall to complain when stuff gets sent to legends

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they are like Harry Potter's step-brother

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"BUT LAST YEAR I HAD 50 MINIS"

shadow plover
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to be fair, UM haven't really had minis since 8th edition launch days

near wasp
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0_0

rocky gale
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Looking at it Nurgle was the AoS chaos faction that needed a refresh the least

shadow plover
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but marines in general yeah

rocky gale
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and they got the fattest of refreshes

storm jungle
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what did GW mean by this

near wasp
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The Titus mini looks awesome tho

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I want

queen laurel
rocky gale
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Sickening levels of corpulence

queen laurel
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I mean look at these guys they look like Caseoh if he decided to be a villain

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Actually Speaking of putrid Blightkings I've seen people have been mixed in

near wasp
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That's rude to them

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Caseoh id more rotund than guo

rocky gale
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Like if you had to rank the four classic monogod factions in AoS that needed a refresh it would be

Tzeentch
Khorne
Slaanesh
Nurgle

storm jungle
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this applies to 40k too lol

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its insane how much love Nurgle gets

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meanwhile Khorne sitting in the ditch

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(good)

shadow plover
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it's the most interesting designwise yesgryn

near wasp
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That's because Papa nurgle loves you

queen laurel
storm jungle
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you guys are just mid

queen laurel
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He was featured in a lot of warhammer games

urban spire
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blue/pink horrors kinda suck

near wasp
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That's because he's easy to represent

celest dome
#

What I very much like about this Nurgle release is that there are different aspect of it that aren't shown much before:

  • Sloven Knight: Boredom/Apathy
  • Rotsword: Mania
rocky gale
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Oh

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Damnit was trying to post the pics of the new models and automod must have stopped it

shadow plover
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did you post more than 5 pictures

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this server doesn't like that

rocky gale
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Oh right

celest dome
storm jungle
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tzeentch aint getting squat

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Waiter WAITER

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MORE TZAANGORS

rocky gale
storm jungle
queen laurel
shadow plover
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These were my favourites

rocky gale
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and the horses are fucking revolting

queen laurel
shadow plover
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ye

celest dome
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The new Blight Kin look great too

queen laurel
storm jungle
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bruh those bellypot stomachs are gnarly i hate it

queen laurel
rocky gale
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AoS design team must have found the best designer in the world and the clause for hiring them was "You have to let me make as much Nurgle stuff as I want"

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"I'll make Ushoran for you, but then I'm going right back to Nurgle"

pseudo fox
queen laurel
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ugh

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It's disgusting man

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they use nothing but giant weapons because they don't need Shields

celest dome
dusky beacon
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I wonder what Sept the Twin Lance hail from, i usually see people put that blue-green on N'dras

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I know they're supposed to be septless but

queen laurel
urban spire
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i'm not really seeing how nurgle is more versatile

rocky gale
celest dome
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Has a lot of themes:

  • Bugs, flies, maggots and such
  • Bloating
  • Any riff on a disease (Here we see Mania)
  • Rust and rot
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On the other hand, Khorne:

  • Blood
  • Skull (not used much)
  • Martial\Berserkers
  • Hounds
queen laurel
urban spire
#

bulls

storm jungle
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literally every chaos god can have weird creative designs

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saying Nurgle is the most versatile is very incorrect imo

rocky gale
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Yea I feel like all of the Gods are as versatile, the design teams just don't fully use that versatility

storm jungle
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^^

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this is it

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They likely go Nurgle because he has more market appeal

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and has been dominant since 8th edition

celest dome
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Easiest to be varied with 🤷

storm jungle
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Hes really not

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lol

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look at any chaos artwork and you can see how creative some get with designs

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Nurgle is the same as anyone else

nocturne crest
storm jungle
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We got Slaangors already way back

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Khorngors are the only ones missing i think

shadow plover
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the less beastmen the better

celest dome
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Could get more Slaangor tbh

nocturne crest
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I missed the slaangors?

urban spire
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gw is too cowardly to ever do anything interesting with slaanesh

celest dome
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Just had the one from the Infernal something for that boxed game

shadow plover
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stop wasting resources on designing beastmen!! they all suck!!

storm jungle
rocky gale
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Like we could get more varied Khorne AoS models that aren't shirtless barbarians with red scraps of cloth, they just don't put the same effort in

storm jungle
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its just not used a lot

nocturne crest
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Tbh, didn't thy try locking Slaanesh away in Aos?

urban spire
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"slaanesh is sexy demons but it's NOT A SEX THING GUYS"

storm jungle
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people read way too much into that

queen laurel
storm jungle
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him being imprisoned isnt that much of a plotpoint as hes slowly breaking free

celest dome
queen laurel
rocky gale
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Yea Slaanesh is locked away in the sense that they aren't currently eating the souls of every Elf the way she is with the Eldar in 40k, but they're still very much active

urban spire
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slaanesh is all excess, it's just pure coincidence that the only excess the daemons visually represent is horny excess

storm jungle
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I mean not really

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again, look up the Hedonites line

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Slaanesh always had a huge Hellraiser aesthetic more than a sex one

queen laurel
storm jungle
queen laurel
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Lord of gluttony and excess of food

urban spire
nocturne crest
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Honestly, Slaanesh has got the "sexy" models and that guy who is gluttony in the flesh, so maybe we need a model that represents pride?

rocky gale
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Slaanesh is one of the better realised Chaos factions in AoS

celest dome
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The Myrmidesh aren't that horny looking either tbh

shadow plover
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Sigvald is right there

nocturne crest
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Like, maybe a collector or something like a builder.

urban spire
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why am i getting the skull? am i supposed to double down and try to argue that dude is also about sex or something?

queen laurel
nocturne crest
storm jungle
rocky gale
queen laurel
# rocky gale

Infernal Enrapturess canonically kill you by playing Justin Bieber baby

storm jungle
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the nipple piercing amulet is CRAZY

rocky gale
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Like Hedonites need a little more love, but like it can wait a little while and still be fine, it's nowhere near as bad as Tzeentch and Khorne

storm jungle
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Lmaoooo

celest dome
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Pride: Sigvald
Gluttony: Glutos
Lust:
Envy:
Wrath:
Sloth: (Slaanesh KEKW_ogryn)
Greed:

urban spire
shadow plover
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Going back to Nurgle not needing an upgrade I do think the current Maggotkin range is very weak, like one cool model and that's it. The new ones are almost all stellar instead

storm jungle
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that horse rider dude has been carrying them for a few years now yeah lol

#

he summoned his homies finally

shadow plover
#

That

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I once planned starting an AoS army and would've liked to do a Nurgle one but the Maggotkin range was so weak I abandoned the idea entirely

celest dome
queen laurel
shadow plover
#

which you would say were good ones from the human side?

storm jungle
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Im looking at it now

#

there REALLY isnt that much

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most of them are solo models

shadow plover
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and old at that

queen laurel
#

yeah the new minis are there to fill in missing stuff

rocky gale
storm jungle
#

^

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the minis there are good

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it just isnt proper "troop" stuff

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most of these are like champions

shadow plover
# rocky gale

I think only the first one is a good looking model, and it's the newest one in the range

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besides that, Harbinger of Decay is absolutely stellar

urban spire
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but like this shit's horny, it's just not normal cishet horny

storm jungle
#

I mean... kinda?

queen laurel
celest dome
storm jungle
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you need the sexual elements somewhat

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it still isnt that in your face

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like-

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if you think thats horny

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google some 3rd party slaanesh minis

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lol

rocky gale
shadow plover
storm jungle
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Yeah that

celest dome
storm jungle
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GW got way more class with the slaanesh minis

queen laurel
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Sloven knights finally give you cavalry

urban spire
celest dome
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I mean 1 hand, Beastmen are pretty much always near naked

urban spire
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my objection isn't to the minis being horny, it's using kink as a shorthand for evil

celest dome
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But on the other it isn't really that horned up

rocky gale
#

It's also like not necessarily evil

urban spire
#

the pretty pervasive depiction of androgyny as fucked up and evil is also pretty uncomfortable

rocky gale
#

Is Nurgle saying that being fat is evil, is Tzeentch saying that being smart is evil, is Khorne saying that getting angry is evil

west pendant
#

I dont think evil has anything to do with that

urban spire
#

with the khorne and tzeentch bits there are counterparts in the fiction that are meant to be heroic

west pendant
#

evil is more about intent

urban spire
#

with the fatness thing, kinda yeah, fatphobia is a pretty pervasive issue that people get uncomfortable talking about

west pendant
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than just different character traits

rustic patrol
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Slaanesh is all about excess.

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not necessarily horniness

near wasp
#

Marking this entire chat as heretics

celest dome
#

Themes that I'd like to see more in mini
Khorne:

  • Mercenaries: Looking less like the muscly Warrior of Chaos, and instead set more around the Zorro like (Cutting you up in duels without just straight up using savage strength)
  • Brass Sister: (Fantasy) Women that survived Raids from Warrior of Chaos that then started to hunt them, till they themselves just started raiding around (Maybe setting them more into lighter infantry and maybe some measure of range
  • Bloodcursed: (Fantasy) Cursed Flayed warrior, just ending up as a blood puddle/ghost (Ghost infantry -> Total War)
full obsidian
rocky gale
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That's my point, it's taking a singular mundane aspect of a design philosophy and attributing malice to it

wintry cloud
celest dome
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Their fatness is more about being bloated than just fat-arses

wintry cloud
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And take his place as our “angron”

queen laurel
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they're not even fat because of like eating or being a glutton or something they are fat because they are literally rotting

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They are literally being bloated because they are rotting sacks of diseases

wintry cloud
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Their boddies are fat and bloated with flesh

wintry cloud
#

He ascended recently

celest dome
rocky gale
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Nurgle isn't evil because he's fat, Tzeentch isn't evil because he's smart, Khorne isn't evil because he has problems with emotional regulation, Slaanesh isn't evil because they're androgenous and kinda slutty.

queen laurel
wintry cloud
#

^

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Khul was like the main man of khorne since 1st ed

queen laurel
wintry cloud
#

Yeah skarr is sadly just kinda braindead

But it is khorne

celest dome
#

Isn't Khul more akin to Kharn ?

wintry cloud
#

Not anymore

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But your point isnt wrong

urban spire
wintry cloud
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Cause he was the mortal champion

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So yeah kinda

celest dome
#

Like the Gorechosen were created/federated under Skarr (Well before him in theory but he is the 1st Gorechosen/Skaramor character)

urban spire
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but androgyny, kink, and body types that aren't conventionally attractive are pretty absent in that regard

wintry cloud
#

Khul has had alot of awesome stories and books with him battling (formerly) the main man of the stormcast vandus hammerhand in the realmgate wars

urban spire
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and to get ahead of an argument: i'm not saying 40k needs to be kinkier to balance it out

wintry cloud
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In the dawnbringer crusades he gets picked up by khorne and starts growing wings and he flies into the warp, we haven’t seen him since

Rumors say at the end of the EDITION he will return as a new daemon prince model

urban spire
#

just that associating those traits exclusively with the bad guys sucks

west pendant
#

DAMN

#

When lord calgar arrived I glazed all over my monitor

rocky gale
#

I think the greater issue is attributing any one specific faction as "The bad guys"

#

There are bad guys in every faction in AoS

west pendant
#

so is lord Calgar the leader of all the ultramarines?

#

he is chapter master or whatever

urban spire
#

i know there aren't any good factions in 40k, but there are definitely good people

wintry cloud
#

He’s second to bobby

west pendant
#

is guilliman the son of the emperor?

wintry cloud
#

Indeed

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A primarch

west pendant
#

whos bobby?

wintry cloud
#

Meme name for guilliman

west pendant
#

ooh ok

wintry cloud
#

Roboute Guilliman
“Bobby G”

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“Big blueberry”

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“Papa smurf”

paper haven
west pendant
#

so let me get this straight, each space marine faction are lead by one of the emperors sons

wintry cloud
#

Yep

urban spire
#

they're not really biological sons

young pecan
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And they're more like tools

west pendant
#

are the space marines made from the genes of the emperors sons?

paper haven
#

Test tube sons built in a lab, but yeah

wintry cloud
#

Geneseed yes

#

Kinda

celest cedar
#

remind me what are the chaos gods supposed to represent again

west pendant
#

ok so they are all inbred basically

young pecan
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"Only men shall receive my seed"

west pendant
#

that takes the whole brother bonding theme they got going on a whole other level

wintry cloud
#

Kinda

paper haven
#

It was one of the reasons for breaking up the legions.

celest cedar
#

I dont often see perfection in the slaanesh part ngl

celest dome
#

@urban spire How do you see those models ?

wintry cloud
#

They strive to never lose

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Shalaxi helbane

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Ultimate hunter of slaanesh

celest cedar
#

Sigvald is also a perfectionist yea?

celest dome
wintry cloud
west pendant
#

do the sons of the emperor actually care about their space marines?

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not just as tools of war

wintry cloud
#

Depends on the son

celest dome
west pendant
#

but as sons or brothers or whatever

urban spire
celest dome
#

Most didn't care about most of their SM

wintry cloud
#

I guess moreso perfection in his vanity rather than combat

west pendant
#

does bobby g care about the ultramarines?

wintry cloud
#

Cause he nods off

celest dome
wintry cloud
#

He’s one of the better (maybe the best) primarchs

urban spire
#

"best" being a relative term

west pendant
#

nice, it reflects on how the ultramarines behave, they are so wholesome in space marine 2

wintry cloud
wintry cloud
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Very very relative

paper haven
#

Guilliman would be on the higher end of loving his sons

full obsidian
#

The viewers/fans have kind of a biased view since like all the protags in this franchise are from the imperium so naturally we see more "good" imperials since we only see one perspective most of the time.

urban spire
#

plenty of nonhuman perspective characters in 40k novels, those novels just aren't as popular because folks love their blorbos

wintry cloud
#

True
The less you read the less you know

#

If you only read one factions PoV you’re reading propaganda

nocturne crest
celest dome
burnt maple
celest dome
celest dome
nocturne crest
burnt maple
celest dome
#

Doomseeker might be older than Kratos 💀

wintry cloud
#

“Are those dudes roided on crack swinging hammer-heads?”

“Yeah”

burnt maple
#

XD

near wasp
#

Classic

celest dome
#

In the early Age of Chaos, the Chaos Gods granted their followers many gifts to aid in the conquest of the Mortal Realms. One of Khorne's gifts to the first Bloodbound tribes were brass anvils of Khorne much like of his own to use both to forge ever more lethal weapons and as sacrificial altars: in return for smashing captives' skulls on the anvils, the tribes' weapons would be imbued with the raging heat of the Blood God's daemonic forge. [1a]

Bloodbound legends say that eventually, mysterious wanderers - the first Skullgrinders - came to Bloodbound camps and silently marched directly to the anvil-altars at their heart. Any who sought to stop these strangers were simply smashed aside, and the infernal light of the anvils grew brighter the closer they came. When a wanderer finally reached an anvil, they unwound lengths of brass chain from thin air. These chains, still glowing as if taken directly out of the forge-fires, were then attached to the anvils with thunderous strikes of the Skullgrinder's hammer. Seeing daemons dancing in the flames spewing from the anvil once this ritual was complete, the Bloodbound fell to their knees in worship. The Skullgrinders have been the guardians of the brazen anvils ever since.[

wintry cloud
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A man of culture i see

wintry cloud
#

He doesn’t know

nocturne crest
celest dome
#

Doomseekers 2004

nocturne crest
#

Also, did the ultramarines ever have a dreadnought character on the table.

west pendant
#

hmm I am really considering reading the horus heresy books

surreal nest
west pendant
#

but there are so many of them

celest dome
#

God of War from Wikipedia seem to be 2005

west pendant
#

64 books wtf

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so id assume reading about the horus heresy will give you a very profound knowledge of space marines, the emperors sons, the empire as a whole etc

wintry cloud
#

Check that one out maybe

west pendant
#

where is that

nocturne crest
wintry cloud
#

i think hes referring to the video game, not the literal greek character

nocturne crest
#

Fair enough.

queen laurel
nocturne crest
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Okay.

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You've got a point there.