40k-lore-chat

[shadow plover]

no space marine "wants to do good" in the end, they all are brainwashed to an extent

[storm jungle]

^

you are being indoctrinated thinking this way lol

[west pendant]

I aint

[storm jungle]

definitely indoctrinated

but anyway his openmindedness doesn't mean much when at the end of the day hes still a space marine serving a horrible regime.

hes likable on the surface because you as the player need to get attached to him, thats how protagonists for shooters work

[west pendant]

you can be a soldier doing bad things and still have a consciensce, self-awareness

[storm jungle]

Yeah and at the end of the day it doesnt really matter.

your actions still dont stop the death of millions

[west pendant]

it matters on an individual level

[storm jungle]

Yet Titus serves and sleeps on a battle-barge where their servants are literal slaves

and people are lobotomized and forced to be computers lol

[shadow plover]

there is nuance to it yes, but no space marine is there to be "better" than the horrors beside him, maybe they can strive to be better servants of the emperor or more stalwart followers of the codex but none are there to be GOOD, especially in the big year of 41,000

During and before the heresy they had some more individualism but that has changed since then

[storm jungle]

^ Yeah that. You can like Titus, im not saying you can't, I dont want to rain on anyones parade either, I like him as a character even if he is the most basic form of a protagonist character, its just that at the end of the he actively serves an Imperium that makes uncountable lives of people across the galaxy suffer. At the end of the day theres no good guys in 40k and the actions of any said "good" guys is meaningless, thats what makes it grimdark.

[rose thorn]

which one is the viper again?

[shadow plover]

it is also a recurring theme how Space Marines have become less than human when ascending beyond them

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres also a marketing/lore disconnect

you cannot show a marine ripping apart a human rebel fighting to save his world from the Imperium in a store.

because that isnt really "cool" to most people lmao

you gotta have them fight generic evil aliens

[wintry cloud]

I have been hysterically laughing at this for 10 minutes.

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[wind canyon]

Bigger Eldar jetbike with the canopy and the big gun above it

[storm jungle]

this one

[rose thorn]

OH

the vyper

[storm jungle]

its from the 90's

lmao

[rose thorn]

i thgouth that already got a new kit?

with the rangers ?

[wind canyon]

Nope

[storm jungle]

Maggie Dementia

[rose thorn]

ah nvm i see hwere i was confused

holy shit this box was ass huh

[storm jungle]

New minis is new minis its fine

[wintry cloud]

This new?

[storm jungle]

Way older

like a year or two

[wintry cloud]

O

[shadow plover]

YEAR OR TWO

Girl

that's at least 5 years old by now

well 4

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats like a year or two

fuckwad

[shadow plover]

[storm jungle]

But also holy shit 5 years???

Bro im going to hell soon 💀

[shadow plover]

4 was more accurate

but still

[queen laurel]

satan will be greeting you with "if it isn't my favorite soldier"

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[plush mason]

Titus: you mean my toilet paper roll? i mean list of helpful tips

[rose thorn]

changed one of them since i felt like it didnt fit my vision

one of the cult symbols

[storm jungle]

Lmao thats pretty good

cute lil worm guy

[shadow plover]

cheesed to meet you

[rose thorn]

le tme replace the old one in the selection

i forgto who here voted on the bunch fo cult symbosl i made or shoudl i jsut send it agin

it reid to make this one a feudal world vibe

yeah jsut elite voted im gonna send it with the new symbol <3

[tough haven]

I don’t get it

[storm jungle]

Dont worry about it, you're young

[storm jungle]

Man that 2nd and last one are really good

[tough haven]

Could you maybe do one that’s like a double helix with an Aquila through it, but the bottom tips of the helix have the GSC symbol?

[tough haven]

I’ve read the eldar books though, is this not related to that?

[storm jungle]

No lol

[rose thorn]

ah i see, like snake wrappign around a cross symbol type beat but 40k

i have no clue what the imperial faith's relgious symbol si

[storm jungle]

Maggie i swear to god

CAN YOU USE GOOGLE

[crystal forum]

it's literally just classic stoic main protag

[rose thorn]

I TRIEDDDD

IT GIVES ME SYMBOLS OF THE INQUISITION

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Cult

[rose thorn]

OH

I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE INQUISITOR SYMBOL

[storm jungle]

THAT ISNT THE INQUISITION

AUGHHHHH

[rose thorn]

[storm jungle]

Doomed.

[rose thorn]

YOU CAN SEE THE CONFUSION

[storm jungle]

ok but literally all Imperial adepta use the "I" lmao

hold on ill get you a guide i made

[plush mason]

thanks Malcador

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

lmao literally 4 of them have a skill tahts really funny

of the I ones

[plush mason]

ngl i thought the munitorum was part of the astra militarum

[west pendant]

Can the emperor ever return

[storm jungle]

they arent, they oversee it

[west pendant]

and if so

[storm jungle]

Hes far too fucked.

[west pendant]

will humanity even follow him anymore?

[storm jungle]

I mean they still do

[near wasp]

Ok define return

[storm jungle]

they would follow him

[tough haven]

Yeah, I just don’t want it to be too overtly GSC

Just a little hint

[west pendant]

Return with his full physical and mental faculties

[storm jungle]

Thats not possible

[near wasp]

Impossible

[west pendant]

as per lore its impossible?

[near wasp]

What went into the throne room will not come out

[west pendant]

it will never happen

[rose thorn]

the cul that is similar to yours is nto subtle at all lamo

[plush mason]

ofc, idk why i expected the supply chain to be part of the guard

[queen laurel]

He was shattered in like a bajillion pieces

[near wasp]

The emperor is far too changed

[tough haven]

Which one is that?

[west pendant]

who shattered him

[rose thorn]

if 40k was based and cult pilled a stray gsc bullet would kill the emperor

[queen laurel]

the guy sitting in the throne isn't even him anymore

[plush mason]

that is far far too efficent for the imperium

[storm jungle]

its the same as logistics departments irl, they arent answering to the fighting arm, they are above the department.

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind

Read the lexicanum.

[near wasp]

Ten thousand years of torture

[plush mason]

ofc but they are still part of the military chain of command afaik

[storm jungle]

they arent

they are a part of the Administratum

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Departmento_Munitorum

Read the lexicanum.

[rose thorn]

Cult of the Sediparous Saints

[plush mason]

no i meant irl

[storm jungle]

Perish.

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cult_of_the_Sediparous_Saints

also liek evne people of the imperial faith dont recognize gsc sybols

in lore the pattern is uh, not as obvious as irl

[storm jungle]

also people are stupid

[plush mason]

ok i love the skull one

[rose thorn]

tehre is so many different forms of worship of the god emperor, theres some who arent even gsc and worhsip him as a dragon god or snake god or some space star god

by the time the cult symbol is common place its too late to stop lmao

[plush mason]

ok dragon god emperor of mankind goes hard ngl

[storm jungle]

its why the Cult of the Four Armed Emperor is the biggest/most widespread cult yeah

[celest dome]

In lore GSC are quite adept at hiding out

[plush mason]

they are in the walls

[crystal forum]

in my walls

finally some friends

[rose thorn]

isnt a gsc symbol literally among that collection of imeprial faith symbols and trophies in the emperor's palace? with the banner of the astral claws?

i might be thinking of someting else

[storm jungle]

You are yeah

those are EXTREMELY highly decorated regiments/people of renown being granted a place in there

[rose thorn]

ah gotcha

i might be thinking of somethign from necromunda then

chuckling to my slef imagining a gsc going to web design classes for his cult symbol

[rose thorn]

just remembered i was thinking of hired gun where the guy goes like "the 4 armed emperor aye? wonder if they are recruiting"

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[rose thorn]

i think he was some genesplicer?

[burnt maple]

Dilara. I wish I knew you before your jaded arc. I envy myself of that timeline all the discussions with you.

[near wasp]

Dilara has always been jaded

[tough haven]

Yeah I’m trying to make mine a little more cloak and dagger

[rose thorn]

faiar

[celest dome]

She's the old grumpy grandma of the chat

[burnt maple]

All the more shame.

[near wasp]

It's been nice knowing you

[storm jungle]

This is what happens when you've been a 40k fan for over 13 years

After dealing with homophobes, racists and sexists for a decade it takes its toll

[rose thorn]

all the symbols have almos the same number of votes

[burnt maple]

Bro, I am a 40k fan for about that time.

Still having fun and not being jaded.

[rose thorn]

the skull is in 1st by like 2 and the blood one is in 2nd by 1

[storm jungle]

Yeah because you havent seen the shit ive seen

[valid needle]

Last

[storm jungle]

or well, be a female fan

the amount of mansplainings I had to sit through.....

[burnt maple]

Hm. Maybe that is the problem. "No girls allowed" taken literally instead of satire.

[storm jungle]

You dont know how bad it goes trust me 💀

[burnt maple]

I do not.

[storm jungle]

i spent years like 2012 just being told how funny the daemonculaba is 24/7

https://tenor.com/view/death-cat-falls-over-gif-17605935280907017193

[burnt maple]

WHO THE FUCK WOULD SAY THAT.

[rose thorn]

thats why every eldar combat patrol comes with estrogen

[burnt maple]

Second question:

[plush mason]

yeah anyone that says that needs to be in a padded room

[burnt maple]

Why did you talk to chaos fans in the first place /s

[storm jungle]

Because Imperium fans (space marine ones especially) think they are being funny lol

No dude I do not want to play Sisters of Battle because they are all just girls :)))

[burnt maple]

Touche. I am a space marine fan and I think daemonculaba is horrible 😠

Fucking piss ass posers acting all loyal while endorsing heresy.

[storm jungle]

Yeah because you are a normal fan

half the space marine pfp users i mean end up going mask off

[burnt maple]

From you it sounds like I just received a fucking medal of highest honor.

[celest dome]

I'm like her favourite grandchild here

I have good will to burn

[queen laurel]

you did you are a rare space marine fan that isn't a crazy person

[burnt maple]

Yay!

Am not crazy! Just autistic!

[queen laurel]

i call her the iron fisted mod

[burnt maple]

[near wasp]

I'm crazy and autistic

[west pendant]

What's a daemonculaba

[plush mason]

a very messed up bit of older lore

tldr some chaos marine apothecary turned teenage girls into giant wombs to make teenage boys into new chaos space marines

[west pendant]

Is that still the case ?

[plush mason]

no thankfully

[west pendant]

Btw, the feeling of discovering new franchises and getting overwhelmed with the amount of lore and media is so goooood

Never felt like this since star wars

There's so much shit that looks epic asf that I'm interested in

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Daemonculaba

Read the lexicanum.

[near wasp]

Who has the 0 days since daemonculaba mentioned image

[plush mason]

they dont use it still do they?

[near wasp]

No it got mercy killed

[plush mason]

thank fuck

[storm jungle]

Read the goddamn page

[plush mason]

it didnt mention it got destroyed but the past tense use was a very big hint, just wanted to be sure

[queen laurel]

@celest dome @rose thorn @wintry cloud @arctic talon @rocky gale https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/duiizeuv/inara-sion-the-cleansing-blade-emerges-in-warhammer-quest-darkwater/

[rose thorn]

Oh didn’t know Ghyran jade magic lets you manipulate aqua ghyranis

Oh it’s special water

Nvm

[spring cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1231286447131328544/1434921857529675847/IMG_0107.jpg?ex=690a169e&is=6908c51e&hm=283761bdebc2f89b03f915c98546bb8c0e653ab62f3267cfdc30ecf87756e7a6&=&format=webp&width=718&height=789

[queen laurel]

she's a water-caster she specializes in that stuff

[surreal nest]

Even satirical its not funny

[plush mason]

find this factory and nuke it from orbit

[spring cairn]

but i work there

[misty vector]

oh poor thang

[plush mason]

then transmit it's location and GTFO

[storm jungle]

Sigmarite-Alarielle human worshipper? Based af

[surreal nest]

I already know how fucking flimsy this model is going to be

[storm jungle]

you'd never see shit like this in 40k lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[queen laurel]

yep

[surreal nest]

warhammer quest models are terrible i hate using them

[queen laurel]

that's been zero days since softtoast has complained about something

[plush mason]

is the back of the blade and the top of the jar the only things holding the water to the rest of the mini?

[surreal nest]

How is that a complaint you wretched cheeks filled with nuts squirrel

[queen laurel]

It's a preloaded complaint

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sakamoto-nichijou-cat-plush-death-gif-9178639101841172402

[surreal nest]

its factual that warhammer board games aren't made with GW plastic

https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

[queen laurel]

Exactly you're complaining

Before it's even out

[surreal nest]

Is it complaining if someone says its raining outside

[west pendant]

Depends how obnoxious they are about it

You can turn anything into a complaint

[storm jungle]

I hate steam.

[plush mason]

this is true

[crystal forum]

i'm complaining about lack of complaints

[storm jungle]

Its hot, leaky and it burns your skin.

[crystal forum]

hot

[west pendant]

I hate sand

I thought you hated steam the platform

[storm jungle]

nah i was making a L4D1 joke lol

[plush mason]

ngl i thought you meant the money printer Valve owns

[west pendant]

I'm so much internet pilled that anytime someone mentions steam I think of the game platform first

[storm jungle]

yall young'ins really dont know who the legend Francis is 😔

[storm jungle]

its a valid complaint, it looks destructable af

[queen laurel]

i didn't say it was an invalid complaint

[surreal nest]

francis should have been the one to go down to the generator he would have survived and tamed the tanks

[storm jungle]

shut up mushroomeer

[plush mason]

the floating water looks like it would fall off at a harsh look

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[queen laurel]

just stating the obvious

[storm jungle]

Francis would make a peak warhammer fan

[vagrant fox]

francish left for dead hisself? I believe it

[storm jungle]

guys, they are left for dead

[queen laurel]

Whatever you say trackstar

[surreal nest]

I feel like he would eat the models

[storm jungle]

Go back to your embryo wankstain

[west pendant]

Excuse me but wtf are those chips the space Marines have in their head, just implants?

[storm jungle]

he would eat them to annoy Louis

[plush mason]

who is this Francis?

[storm jungle]

Bionic ports or service studs

[queen laurel]

The grandpa from left 4 dead

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Service_Studs

[surreal nest]

He saved the world

[west pendant]

The previous Pope

[storm jungle]

thats Bill lol

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/francis-left4dead-l4d-left4dead2-meme-gif-26155453

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[queen laurel]

oh i forgot it's been awhile

[storm jungle]

"been awhile"

zero brainpower

[plush mason]

i only know L4D2 characters lmao

[west pendant]

What's your fav Warhammer videogame

[storm jungle]

https://left4dead.fandom.com/wiki/Francis

Hes one of the survivors from L4D1

[queen laurel]

it's 17 years old i can't remember any detail about it

[storm jungle]

the grumpy biker tough-guy

[surreal nest]

vermintide 2

[storm jungle]

thats more on yourself

literally everyone knows the L4D crew lol

[plush mason]

fucker looks like he is from the walking dead what da hell

[storm jungle]

he predates the Walking Dead

[spring cairn]

i hate the walking dead

[queen laurel]

i've been outside of the left 4 dead franchise for a while

[west pendant]

Pay respects to left 4 dead, we wouldn't have darkside otherwise

[plush mason]

i know

[west pendant]

So has valve

[plush mason]

same

[storm jungle]

Unironically this too

L4D is the grandfather of these titles

sitting on a couch catching ZZZs

[queen laurel]

Left 4 dead 2 is still surprisingly keeping up to modern day horde shooters

[surreal nest]

A world without darktide fans?

tempting

[storm jungle]

because its the original

[plush mason]

ngl i am still shocked they are making deadlock, i guess they got bored of sitting on a mountain of cash

[west pendant]

Valve here pioneering new game genres and then sleeping on them, hey why should they? All they have to do is maintain a game platform and rake in the billions, fucking geniuses

[queen laurel]

granted but this chat will not exist because the server was not made

[surreal nest]

well to be fair and lets do some flips here

[storm jungle]

sure, you first

[queen laurel]

Tell me is this a price you are willing to play hard bread

[surreal nest]

i died

[storm jungle]

🫡

[surreal nest]

but think about it

no left 4 dead 2 maybe no space marine 2

[west pendant]

Can you imagine if Valve comes out of nowhere and announced team fortress 3

[storm jungle]

Valve is legit gigabrained as fuck with those yeah as annoying as it is

everyone has been trying to copy them for 2 decades lol

[spring cairn]

they also announcing hl3 later this november, fun fact

[west pendant]

They are super smart, why risk releasing games and ruin your legacy when you can just stop with your legacy untarnished

[surreal nest]

valve is the only company that gamers won't call out and i think thats scary

[queen laurel]

i mean they still got it deadlock is right there

[plush mason]

the funny thing is, Blizzard could have beaten them to the punch if they had listend to the maker of battlenet

[queen laurel]

not for me but if you are into that type of game it's good

[surreal nest]

money printing gamba website

[west pendant]

Deadcock is made by some modders isn't it ?

Deadlock*

[surreal nest]

No its ICEFROG

dota dev

[queen laurel]

ice frog

[storm jungle]

They predicted shit like payable classes/operators in 2012, genuinely insane

[spring cairn]

deadlock is made by valve

they'll never stop making games

[plush mason]

ignore the long period of time where they did

[spring cairn]

they just have a unique approach about it because they don't have any shareholders to answer to

[west pendant]

Yep, it's genuinely amazing

[storm jungle]

the funny part was uh

in that presentation where they wer etalking about that

they land on the opinion that lootboxes make more money

which is entirely true lol

[queen laurel]

hell their hero shooter is still alive somehow how is team fortress even a thing still

[surreal nest]

Valve is borderline immortal

[storm jungle]

^

[surreal nest]

its scary

[storm jungle]

when you pioneer concepts for the very first time you'll always somewhat sit on that patent

[queen laurel]

Honestly they are scary because of one thing they are a gaming company content with what they have done and is happy about it

[plush mason]

Valve ever goes public and its so over

[queen laurel]

they are smart they have been playing this game for a long time

[west pendant]

Valve only makes games when they know it's gonna be revolutionary, they will only capitalize on new technology to create shit you haven't seen before

[spring cairn]

they will never go public dw

[storm jungle]

reminder that their founder is literally a harvard dropout

[spring cairn]

they have infinite funds

[storm jungle]

never follow your dreams folks

[surreal nest]

minus deadlock

[spring cairn]

deadlock is revolutionnary

[west pendant]

Deadlock is whatever, a niche product

[spring cairn]

it's smite but not dogshit

[surreal nest]

It really isn't

[queen laurel]

gabe is just that guy

[surreal nest]

Ok true

[queen laurel]

I have never seen a man be so chill

[storm jungle]

he does nothing but sit in his office and play Dota so

he opens his palm and money falls into it lol

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/gabe-newell-gabening-intensifies-shaking-gif-15589000

why is this a gif?

[west pendant]

I wish Gabe will buy the Warhammer ip

[surreal nest]

theres a chance he died like 15 years ago and he is just being piloted by gnomes

[surreal nest]

This sounds awful

[spring cairn]

gabe just get to enjoy all his boats and his facsination for the sea now

[vagrant fox]

I do find this meme funny

[storm jungle]

its more uh

Pioneer stuff

sit back, do nothing, count money

let competition shoot itself in the foot

lol

[vagrant fox]

you rn

[queen laurel]

i can't believe i'm saying this but he's like the gaming CEO equivalent of the Arizona ice tea guy

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[queen laurel]

they figured something out good and they just let money fall to them

[storm jungle]

basic ass features

revolutionary

[storm jungle]

yes

[west pendant]

That's like the bare minimum for any company

[spring cairn]

HLA was p revolutionary

it showed u could make good vr games if u actually tried

[surreal nest]

i will chime in

[spring cairn]

which aren't just gimmick showcases

[surreal nest]

HLA is really good but its not a great VR game its just a pretty show

[west pendant]

Half LYFE alyx is revolutionary for VR

[vagrant fox]

Lone Echo did that as well

[west pendant]

But I'm still waiting for VR to stop being a gimmick

[spring cairn]

experiencing the Gman end game speech in game was worth the Index

[storm jungle]

still cannot believe they scrapped 95% of an entire game and re-did it when making Alyx

some mechanicus tier shit

[west pendant]

Super smart decision

[storm jungle]

yeah the beta story was bad lmao

[west pendant]

They knew people would have been disappointed if they released it as a normal game

[spring cairn]

they do that, game not to our liking ? scrap it, start from scratch

[storm jungle]

Well it wasnt that

[plush mason]

benefit of not having wallstreet on your back

[west pendant]

Butt with VR, they can capitalize on that

[plush mason]

one of many really

[spring cairn]

cuz they don't have to release it to make money, they can just start over if they feel like it

[west pendant]

The only valve fuckup was the card game

[surreal nest]

and instead having your own fucking wallstreet by the way

[plush mason]

true

[west pendant]

Also I need VR to get advanced enough so that we can actually go and live in the 40k world

[spring cairn]

i can't wait to get to learn about HL3's entire development history after it comes out

[west pendant]

Like sword art online type shit

Minus the dying in real life part

[spring cairn]

HL3 which is definitely getting announced this month btw

[west pendant]

Actually, keep that feature on if anyone wants it, sort of like a hardcore run

Man I am so horny right now with that space marine game, its like peak masculinity, just violence and war, what any man wants

Big badass dudes fighting big badass aliens

[plush mason]

hm nothing like falling in the gears of an industrial meat packer in VR

living and working in a manufactorum is the most pure form of hell in the imperium i think

[west pendant]

is it? maybe they get good pay and actual healthcare

[near wasp]

They dont

[plush mason]

they dont

[storm jungle]

manufactorum workers are literally slaves

[queen laurel]

they dont

[near wasp]

Closest thing they get to good pay is allowed the right to continue producing

[plush mason]

^

[storm jungle]

if you listen to some of the announcements in SM1 it says some wild shit

[queen laurel]

every single planet in the imperium is designed to exploit you

[storm jungle]

like how you still gotta go to work or you'll be servitorized lmao

[near wasp]

You might be servitorizated just cause

[plush mason]

note i said "living in" as well

a manufactorum is a massive company town

[near wasp]

I owe soul to the company store

[plush mason]

the workers live die and are born there

[west pendant]

ok ill make an honest question, do you think space marine 1 is a good representation of the warhammer 40k universe?

[storm jungle]

Not really no

[west pendant]

if some normie who has no idea 40k exists and just picks up this game in isolation

will they get a good grasp of the 40k universe

[storm jungle]

Nope.

[plush mason]

nope

[storm jungle]

The thing is it just shows you 1 planet and 1 warzone

40k is INCREDIBLY diverse

[plush mason]

its space marine bolter porn

[storm jungle]

^

[west pendant]

so someone with no knowledge can just see it as an action generic scifi game

with not much more to it

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats what it was made for essentially

imagine it like watching Andor basically, thats how games like Rogue Trader are better in exploring 40k for what it is essentially.

since you planet-hop

and see tons of cultures

You also actually talk with characters and see the nitty-gritty reality of life in the Imperium

[west pendant]

rogue trader does a much better job of actually getting you into the universe

[storm jungle]

Basically yeah

SM1 isnt bad its just as you said a simple action game

[west pendant]

I was wondering if space marine has those elements to it

[storm jungle]

Yeah nah its just a shooty-game

there isnt anything complex plotwise

you shoot evil aliens

[west pendant]

theres no depth to it then? just shooty shooty

[storm jungle]

Yeah lol

its why its always been just "there"

its fun, thats it really, lacks depth

[west pendant]

what about the sequel?

[queen laurel]

Dude the plot line is even the same

Aliens are invading the planet and space marine one it's orks in here it's tyranids

Oh will you look at that they are not the true threat

it's chaos back at it again

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[west pendant]

lmao

[storm jungle]

it just looks better and has more aura-farming moments

its a perfectly 6/10 game

[surreal nest]

theres a reason why space marine 2 players dont know their lore

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/B2j6NWxDyuE?si=gIBm8MH0sI2CPcLz i have to admit even this is cool

[storm jungle]

yea

[west pendant]

well, I mean I would argue that if the objective is to create a game thats just fun and the effort is put into just recreating the 40k universe from a visual perspective

maybe its a 10/10

[storm jungle]

Its good for visuals but visuals dont make everything

[queen laurel]

yeah

[storm jungle]

40k has more nuance to it than that

[queen laurel]

warhammer covers many things

[storm jungle]

at least thats my 2 cents

[queen laurel]

not just pretty looking things

[plush mason]

if you want a video game that goes into the lore rogue trader is your best bet currently

[west pendant]

your 2 cents are more valuable than an actual billion dollars

[surreal nest]

i think darktide is the perfect representation of warhammer yeah i said it

sorry liberals

[plush mason]

but its a CRPG so that is kinda expected

[west pendant]

I dont think nuance should be part of everything, its fine to just sitdown and shoot orks, I was just curious how indepth the respective games go

[queen laurel]

i mean that's like saying that getting shot in the head with an armor piercing around that disintegrates someone and kills their family and erases their entire existence from the universe would kill someone

[storm jungle]

Aw shucks

lmao

[queen laurel]

You're just stating the obvious

[surreal nest]

Not me bro

[west pendant]

sometimes the obvious is just that, the obvious, there is comfort in that

maybe I just want to shoot aliens and have fun and thats about it

[raven stone]

40k is flexible like that

You can go as deep or surface level as you want

[west pendant]

ignorance is bliss, why if I was aware that the 40k lore is so messed up I would actually feel sorry for the poor soldiers on the frontlines, or for the actual brainwashed space marines

or I would actually feel conflicted about saving this planet that serves only to exploit and opress

[queen laurel]

That's the wonder of it just do what you do shoot aliens and ignore the suffering of the populace like a true space marine

[west pendant]

YEAH

GLORY FOR THE EMPEROR

[queen laurel]

The imperium is genuinely rotten to the core there is no amount of saving that's gonna save that thing other than a complete restructuring and remake

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/un-disparate-carl-carson-disparate-gif-9375748351294408772

[queen laurel]

the nicest place in detroit

[plush mason]

and that would be an act beyond even a god

there is no unfucking the imperium

[west pendant]

Only if the emperor wakes up, realizes that the point of life is not war but happiness, which is achieved by connecting with people, putting value on emotions and feelings

[vagrant fox]

when all the loyalist primarchs come back they'll reform the imperium for the better because they're the good guys, trust

[near wasp]

The imperium was fucked since conception

[storm jungle]

As long as you know that but choose to have fun thats good yeah, this fandom just has a huge issue with people who unironically think the imperium is great and also use it as a wagon to spread their very offensive viewpoints and act like chuds about it, just dont let them lead you askew as you must be always smarter than them.

[plush mason]

yup

[west pendant]

therefore warhammer40k becomes lovehammer40k

[storm jungle]

Or call people like you who are aware everyone is evil "tourists"

[near wasp]

Damn tourists

[storm jungle]

because we also needed classism ontop of this shitpile apparently lol

[plush mason]

the whole point of this IP is everyone is evil and morality doesnt exist, so pick your fav and go have fun

[wind canyon]

Very fitting for people that think the Imperium is great

[west pendant]

those people might have the media literacy of a pineapple

[queen laurel]

that's an insult to pineapples

[west pendant]

if they actually believe that warhammer is validating their shit views

[plush mason]

true

[vagrant fox]

We are in the era where a bunch ofpeople thinking every instance of "the curtains were blue" can have no symbolism whatsoever

[west pendant]

whats that mean?

[surreal nest]

symbolism

[west pendant]

whats it taste like?

[surreal nest]

tone

[near wasp]

It tastes like fungus bear

[vagrant fox]

I've seen this meme so often and it makes me want to piss on peoples heads

[burnt maple]

Satire clearly isnt your type of humor.

[surreal nest]

how is "no girls allowed" even funny conceptually

[near wasp]

People pay for that you know

[storm jungle]

speaking as a girl its funny when said as a joke

[west pendant]

I mean, art is subjective, depending on when you read something it might mean different things

[storm jungle]

when you say it unironically thats when its "ummm"

[west pendant]

are there actual good women rep in warhammer?

[queen laurel]

Plenty

[plush mason]

yeah but the problem is the teacher is telling others that their subjective view is factual

[near wasp]

I find it a touch concerning that most girls who play the table top I've met play tyranids

[surreal nest]

Yeah i dont know when somebody says no girls allowed in real life i awkwardly chuckle and look around for an exit

[burnt maple]

Because its funny when joke.

[vagrant fox]

Yes but I reckon most of us can agree Moby Dick has maybe a little symbolism and maybe it isn't just a weirdo obsessed with a fish

[burnt maple]

This is joke.

[west pendant]

there is a compromise to be had, the teachers say that because they want you to actually consider art as more than just words on the page

[surreal nest]

the jokes write themselves

[queen laurel]

do you just 40K or other warhammer settings

[west pendant]

for art to mean anything to you, you have to take it seriously

[lament shoal]

ITS A WHALE NOT A FISH

[burnt maple]

A satire, showing the borderline rabid stance of "no girls allowed" which is stupid, looks stupid.

Therefore, funny

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-arrgh-mr-krabs-flying-dutchman-treasure-hunt-gif-10613794766816553895

[plush mason]

yeah the root of the problem isnt the teacher its the idiots listening that take the words as gospel

[burnt maple]

Was that gif tunny to you, cat?

[queen laurel]

a whale is a mammal you freaking clown from smiling friends

[surreal nest]

Are you malding this hard that I dont find space king funny

[west pendant]

it could be both

[burnt maple]

Jesus Christ, read mf.

[plush mason]

i refuse to watch space king

[surreal nest]

i saw a clip and it made me want to tear at my eyes

[vagrant fox]

everything that swims is fish

[lament shoal]

You're a fish

[vagrant fox]

sometimes

[burnt maple]

Dilara, I get you. This is my jaded arc.

[queen laurel]

a crocodile swims is that a fish?

[vagrant fox]

yes

but not when it's on land

[queen laurel]

[plush mason]

i have some friends that are always pushing me to wathc it because some dude called the "imaginator" or something is just like me they say

[surreal nest]

You should be upset that you are compared to a chud cartoon

[plush mason]

i am

[west pendant]

is reading encouraged in the 40k universe, what do they teach kids in school xd

[plush mason]

depends

[burnt maple]

Bruh, guys. Do you even comprehend subjectiveness of humor?

[lament shoal]

Depends on the school

[surreal nest]

I feel like they teach them how to make canned tuna or something cool

[west pendant]

useful skill to have

[lament shoal]

You've got average academic programs for regular civies and then you got the schola

[queen laurel]

yeah work in the factory 20 hours a day

That's a useful

[surreal nest]

Do i get to bring home canned tuna

[queen laurel]

fuck no

[west pendant]

considering that its not that far from how factory work was in our history

its decent

[queen laurel]

That's for the higher level people above you get the sandwich made out of the bones of your loved ones

[surreal nest]

what the fuck is the point in anything anymore i hate it all

[lament shoal]

Its worse in 40k lol

So much worse

[plush mason]

your home is a shack built into the wall of the can packing room

and you are one of the better off workers for it

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-bob-esponja-spongebob-celebrating-shout-gif-15748766

[west pendant]

do I get vacation pay?

[near wasp]

No they only teach a few people to read and they only to that so they can preach the good word

[lament shoal]

No

[surreal nest]

You dont get vacation

[near wasp]

The fucks a vacation

[plush mason]

ngl that is getting a little too real now a days

[lament shoal]

You think this ANYTHING like how jobs are operated irl? You are just a resource to be disposed of once your usefulness runs out

[west pendant]

what is the worst life that you can have in 40k? who has it the absolute worst

[queen laurel]

Here's an Agri world which is a super heavy pollutant base world covered in pollution because they forcefully make every single people that live in the planet run and farm super heavy amounts of fucked up crops

[storm jungle]

Most imperial citizenry

[surreal nest]

idk that sounds like jobs irl

[queen laurel]

you don't get a break in there by the way

[plush mason]

living on Terra as a commoner seems especially hellish

[near wasp]

Warp drive refueler is possibly the worse way to die

[surreal nest]

if i was in the 40k universe I wouldnt suffer from any of the issues and I would live a lavish life

[storm jungle]

This one was going through my mind

[west pendant]

ohh so earth still exists

[queen laurel]

you are quite new to 40K but believe us every single living condition in the imperium unless you are in the top and super rich is horrible

[storm jungle]

you are essentially like those dudes who had to clean up the chernobyl reactor junk IRL

but imagine you do it every day

your skin will literally melt and puddle ot the room lol

[near wasp]

Yeah that's where big e sits

[storm jungle]

then you get replaced

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Terra

[west pendant]

is earth like super rich?

[storm jungle]

Read its page.

it answers everything

[near wasp]

Free soup

[west pendant]

is it a privilege to live on earth

[plush mason]

yes and its like corrasunt but even more hellish, so basically the lower levels are the nice parts of the city world

[near wasp]

Fuck no

It's like one of the worse planets

[plush mason]

^

[lament shoal]

No because at least irl there's actual laws and regulations to protect workers. Sure you can say that people violate them all the time, but the fact that they even exist puts our society above the imperium's by a huge margin

[plush mason]

"Terran grey" is the color of the skin of the common people of Terra

[shadow plover]

https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/the-future-of-plastics-at-trench-crusade/

Huge

[west pendant]

so, 40k is in the 41st millenium, but does it follow our earths history? if I go back in time in 40k to the year 2025 is it the same as our irl?

or is it completely different history

[surreal nest]

laws and regulations like - at will employement and getting ground up in a bean press

[plush mason]

no idea

[shadow plover]

it's pretty much the same

[storm jungle]

Yes it does

[surreal nest]

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Timeline

[surreal nest]

Cyberpunk and 40k both started with the invasion of Venezuela let that sink in

[west pendant]

LMAO

guess we are fucked then

[lament shoal]

I will not be letting that sink in until he tells me why he wants to get in my house

[west pendant]

well ill be dead anyway

[raven stone]

In theory, the distant mythical past of 40k is such that it can be our past, our current past as depicted on TV shows, Cyberpunk 2077, Star Trek etc.etc…

All mashed together

[storm jungle]

Kinda

[surreal nest]

Wow I never expected this ngl

[shadow plover]

I did

[raven stone]

Throw in Gundam if you really feel like it lol

[shadow plover]

(I also had a chat with James last weekend at Spiel about this very topic)

[raven stone]

Basically any past dating back before Reunification of Terra can be anything from pop culture (Provided Terra is not destroyed)

[surreal nest]

when do we get the sultanate in plastic

[raven stone]

And it slots in completely fine

[shadow plover]

Not before all the kickstarter rewards have been sent out

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/no-thumbs-down-thumbs-bad-decline-gif-7992578387087579673

[shadow plover]

Next year at the earliest

[surreal nest]

I will never support a company that doesn't make me feel like a queen

[shadow plover]

but very likely before 2027

[surreal nest]

Btw is the Prussian kit out rn?

[shadow plover]

on pre-order

[surreal nest]

Expected release date?

[queen laurel]

When do they plan to release that lore book again

[surreal nest]

Im not trying to treat you like Google sorry im walking

[shadow plover]

Uh I dunno

[surreal nest]

😡

You have to tell us if there are enough helmets for each model

[shadow plover]

it's at the printers for kickstarters, should arrive during this month for them. Others may get pre-orders this months as well I presume, maybe tomorrow at the earliest

[queen laurel]

Is it physical only or does it come in PDF

[shadow plover]

There are, I'm pretty sure

[shadow plover]

both, pdf will be free

[surreal nest]

I AM PREORDERING

[queen laurel]

LET'S GO

I can't wait to read lore and just be a lore nerd

( I don't have money )

[shadow plover]

They had a prototype version of it for reading at Spiel (no pictures) but I didn't want to look at it for spoilers

[queen laurel]

I'm guessing it's gone?

[shadow plover]

gone?

[queen laurel]

Yeah like no longer available

[shadow plover]

it wasn't available for anyone to take anyways. It was there just for show during the event

[queen laurel]

Well that's unfortunate

Oh well

[shadow plover]

it was just a preview

from the failed printing batch pretty much

[west pendant]

what are some upcoming 40k games you guys are excited about?

[shadow plover]

twwh40k

[outer wave]

DoW4 seems cool

Thats kinda it for me tbh

[green loom]

Dark Heresy

[rose thorn]

there will be no major releases in STL or Resin format in the future

i have no major opinions i hope the old stl format stuff gets rereleased in plastic

[queen laurel]

Dawn of war 4

[celest dome]

Is that one even announced ?

[shadow plover]

they will, but will be slightly different (for obvious reasons)

[shadow plover]

no but I'm sure it's coming

[rose thorn]

ice!

ill wait for that then tbh

i dont trust 3d prints much anymoer

[celest dome]

The only 2 game that are known to be planned to go out that I'm interested in are Mechanicus 2 and DoW4.
Dark Heresy, I may get it later but I didn't like Owlcat's Pathfinder game so I didn't try RT

[queen laurel]

Dawn of war is the only 40K game coming out where I can play orks

That's good enough of a convincing for me

[celest dome]

I'm still reserved on it.
Feel like it'll be a trainwreck in the making

[rose thorn]

no gsc in dow4 saddage

[celest dome]

If it is in the making, which I do not really think it is

[rose thorn]

i wouldnt play itetiher way

but still

[queen laurel]

Then why do you even want it you know what just forget it

[west pendant]

tww40k?

[rose thorn]

introduce new people to my favorite faction

[queen laurel]

I guess that's fait

[celest dome]

It is rumoured that CA is working on a Total War Warhammer 40k

[queen laurel]

Total war Warhammer 40K

Much like Total war Warhammer fantasy

[lament shoal]

Guys look at my sad pathetic breakfast

[celest dome]

The only reason I want to see that game would be to ping Bulgur each time there is a dlc to complain about some design choices that CA dud

[queen laurel]

Fuck you

I just know you will pull out the most random Warhammer 40k fun fact I don't know

Just to show that grimlock iron fist is the better Lord option over Conor the decapitator

[queen laurel]

Where the heck did you buy this

This thing looks like something that you would buy your kids in the supermarket named toasty snacks

[celest dome]

Still think that it is way too early for CA to jump on the 40k wagon, they need to develop some new engine and stuff for it

[queen laurel]

Yeah I would wait on it a few more years

[lament shoal]

The campus convenience store next to my dorm lol

[queen laurel]

That explains it

How does it tast

[lament shoal]

Pretty good

Just wish the portion was bigger

[queen laurel]

Hey at least that's something going for it

[lament shoal]

Lol yeah

[queen laurel]

Be glad that it's not small and taste horrible and looks horrible

At least it tastes good

[rocky gale]

Man

You in prison?

[near wasp]

Fuck man I buy those things sometimes

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-man-web-of-shadows-depressed-sad-gif-16524395

[lament shoal]

Worse, college

[near wasp]

Rip

[lament shoal]

At least in prison there's no expensive ass fees to live there

Can't wait to work my ass off to pay my student loans after graduation

[near wasp]

In prison you live off tax dollars

[lament shoal]

[near wasp]

I'm just glad I didnt

[rocky gale]

Get yourself some beans on toast man

[near wasp]

Evil

[lament shoal]

I have beans but I was planning on using them to make nachos this week

I'm somewhat of a chef myself

[near wasp]

Good idea

I'm meal prepping like four days of breakfast burritos

I cook alot

It's just cheaper

[celest dome]

I love cooking, but there are some recipes that I really just can't be arsed on doing myself and just would rather go to a restaurant/order out

[near wasp]

I have like two vices and they are both food trucks

Teriyaki and Mexican

We have two Mexican food trucks like two blocks from each other and they are ran by father and a son

[lament shoal]

Egg fried noodles I made a couple weeks ago

[celest dome]

I've helped on a mexican food truck, was nice

[near wasp]

I'ma be real the son has better food

Tator tot casserole is like my go to

[west pendant]

I just got taken out by 2 little goblins, how shameful is that for a space marine?

[queen laurel]

Very shameful because grots are like the bottom of ork society

[celest dome]

Even Guardsmen being murked by Grots is pityful

[tough haven]

Grots struggle to take out Humies

Zoggin worthless gits

[celest dome]

God do I want to play a Grots in a Killa Kan as part of a tide game

[tough haven]

As or against?

I just want an Ork tide game

Possibly playing as one

[daring creek]

Already is one

Oh ork tide

Yea idk

That would be cool tho

[west pendant]

Maybe if they update darktide to includethat

it could come

isnt vermintide 2 huge in terms of content? tons of locations, different enemies etc

[queen laurel]

orks in tide tide game as enemies can work on dark tide however no

We are deep in imperial space and we are firmly facing

heretics

[celest dome]

As

[celest dome]

Nah

Wouldn't work well in Darktide, would be better developed in its own game

[celest dome]

Vt2 has 3 factions (Skaven/humanoid rats, Chaos marauders/Fantasy Dregs, Beastmen/humanoid Goat and Cow mens).
Area wise it is more diverse

Because it isn't in a Hive

[urban spire]

honestly it could be so much worse

[dark moon]

It’s peak.

[urban spire]

i've had worse

like off the top of my head, the time i was tryna eat chicken nuggies and suddenly some switch in my brain flipped and the texture of any kind of sauce was the most disgusting thing imaginable

so like, baseline, it was 30 or so cheap-ass store bought nuggies, i should not have cooked all of them at once, and then i also had to choke them all down dry

[median star]

this happened to me at age 7 but specifically only with mayonnaise and i never recovered

[urban spire]

i've recovered from it before, hopefully i will again

[lament shoal]

If a space marine wanted to split off from his chapter to start a successor, how would he go about doing that? Has the process for doing so ever been described?

[urban spire]

successor chapters are started with the geneseed tithed from older chapters afaik

[lament shoal]

But weren't successors like the crimson fists and the black templars given permission to split off from their parent chapter instead of their geneseed just being tithed?

[tough haven]

Idk how the process of getting the authority to do that works

[urban spire]

no idea, i'm not familiar with those

[vagrant fox]

see
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Founding

[rocky gale]

Aren't those both second founding chapters?

[lament shoal]

I think? All I know is that they're both imperial fists successors

[rocky gale]

Yea so both those chapters were founded when the original Legions got split up following the Heresy

[vagrant fox]

It happens sometimes. The Mantis Warriors are a successor from the Marauders who're from the White Scars

[daring creek]

would you let a space marine hug you

[west pendant]

yes

[lament shoal]

Ask because I'm trying to write some lore for my homebrew

[vagrant fox]

no they stink

[west pendant]

only if its titus tho

[rocky gale]

From the sources we have additional foundings are usually done at the request of the Lord of Terra

[rose thorn]

messed with this symbol a bit using some critism

[urban spire]

norwegian genestealers

[vagrant fox]

As is, if I remember correctly, a few veterans are assigned to the new chapter to train everything up and get them going. I'm not entirely sure at the moment I can try to find it later

[west pendant]

so are you guys big on the tabletop game? do you have miniatures?

[urban spire]

some people here are

[queen laurel]

there are some people here who do

[urban spire]

i've never cared, i'm here for the novels, the videogames and the tabletop rpgs

[vagrant fox]

I used to, I still have a few warhammer fantasy chaos warriors from the early 00s

[urban spire]

which, i guess the ttrpgs are technically tabletop, but i reckon that's not what you meant

[lament shoal]

I paint but I currently don't have any armies large enough to play with just yet. Currently working on a kasrkin killteam

[rose thorn]

yee thats the vibe

[west pendant]

there are so many pieces that need to align, for me to actually play the tabletop game, first of all id need to learn how to play it, then id need someone to play it with thats hard by itself, then the hardest part, id need to live basically only to afford warhammer miniatures

[celest dome]

Still have a couple of Tau and SM in my parents home, otherwise sold the rest (Dwarf, Admech)

[storm jungle]

correction

first we need MONEY

[vagrant fox]

ok there it was

[west pendant]

well yeah, money is the biggest factor

[queen laurel]

Yeah warhammer tabletop isn't the cheapest hobby

[vagrant fox]

white dwarf 458 🤓

[west pendant]

witchfinder dilara do you play the tabletop

[rocky gale]

Na she's a nerd

Only reads books

[urban spire]

a 3d printer makes warhammer much more playable

[queen laurel]

she's a member of the lore and games only club

same as me

[west pendant]

how do you buy miniatures? do they come in sets?

[rose thorn]

warhammer.com

[celest dome]

Part of the smarter warhammer fans

[rose thorn]

and your local lgs

[vagrant fox]

local store or online I s'pose

[languid meadow]

either from the warhammer store or you local game store

[rocky gale]

Yea local stores and reputable 3rd party stores online are better than getting from the Warhammer store direct

[west pendant]

ive never heard anyone irl mention warhammer

[languid meadow]

and yeah they mostly come in boxes with multiple models some models are one model only

[lament shoal]

What Cain said, and it depends on the models

[urban spire]

note: if you enter your local game store or games workshop and it immediately smells BAD; simply leave

[lament shoal]

Some come in sets while others come as individual single models

[urban spire]

just hit the grampa simpson and loop de loop right outta there

[languid meadow]

Like characters are usually one model boxes

some come in sets

[queen laurel]

this is important by the way because warhammer store is expensive as shit

[rocky gale]

Yea like you can get 20% discounts on the same thing by buying it from a 3rd party store

[languid meadow]

also you support local businesses

[urban spire]

also never buy your paint from a games workshop store, that's way too expensive

[queen laurel]

Just make sure it's a credible third party store

[west pendant]

a starter set is 220 euro wtf

[urban spire]

YEAH IT'S BAD

[queen laurel]

yeah avoid the warhammer store

Try your best as much as possible to look for third party stores

[rocky gale]

Starter sets are also usually meh

[urban spire]

also the game isn't even that good

[west pendant]

insanity

[queen laurel]

Or your local LGS

[rocky gale]

Combat Patrols are usually better starts if you've got a faction in mind

[west pendant]

50 euro for one specialized figurine

some sort of lore character

wtf

[urban spire]

yeah

[lament shoal]

Its an expensive hobby

[west pendant]

i dont have any local game stores

[urban spire]

you'd think the price would mean you're getting high quality models too

not so

[rocky gale]

What country you in?

[west pendant]

I guess thats how we should define the social classes by todays standards, if you can afford to play tabletop warhammer you are part of the nobility

[west pendant]

Italy, but I live in a pretty isolated place

and nobody here has ever spoken about warhammer

none of my friends or even just in passing

[urban spire]

if you just want to paint models, there's better things to get into than warhammer

[west pendant]

maybe in the city ill find a place where they sell board games

[lament shoal]

Not necessarily. Take me for example. I'm broke as shit because I spent my money on plastic crack lmao

[west pendant]

what do you mean paint models? you buy them and they dont even come painted?

[rocky gale]

No

[west pendant]

lol

[rocky gale]

You've got to build and paint them yourself

[lament shoal]

You gotta build and paint them yourself

[queen laurel]

Yeah that

[rocky gale]

They come like this

[west pendant]

warhammer survives because of its cool lore

its too much of a niche hobby

[queen laurel]

No it survives because people love buying plastic crack

the lore will not exist without the table top

[west pendant]

how old is warhammer

[celest dome]

70th iirc ?

[west pendant]

damn

[queen laurel]

The first ever warhammer setting warhammer fantasy is from 1983

[west pendant]

so it started with fantasy

[queen laurel]

there are multiple warhammer settings but warhammer fantasy was the first yes

[vagrant fox]

40k is late 80s, became properly 40k in the early 90s

[rose thorn]

then 40k, then new and abtter fantasy called Age of SigmaR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rocky gale]

Apparently Ars Manufactorea is the best/most reliable online store for Warhammer in Italy

[celest dome]

Yesn't, it started with making miniatures for DnD

[lament shoal]

Behold, a man

[languid meadow]

featherless? ✅
Bipedal? ✅
yup that's a man

[queen laurel]

since the beginning warhammer has been a setting about miniatures

[vagrant fox]

green like a parrot

[queen laurel]

it's blood runs on miniatures

without miniatures warhammer will not have cool lore because miniatures fund the Lore

[languid meadow]

yeah it's minis first lore second but GW does understand that lore can sell minis

[west pendant]

ya ill stick to the videogames

[queen laurel]

^

[languid meadow]

no one blames ya lmfao

shit's expensive

[celest dome]

I got a beer with Yuzu (Japanese citrus), and it doesn't taste any different from a pils

[west pendant]

I mean if I had a lot of money I might get into it, but im poor asf

[lament shoal]

Don't sleep on the novels though. Plenty of good ones out there to read

[queen laurel]

Some fancy as shit just get root beer

[west pendant]

I already got a huge pile of books that I need to read, I refuse to get into another book heavy series

I only have so much time

[queen laurel]

then you better research things thoroughly because books provide a lot of lore

[west pendant]

Yeah its mostly there for the unemployed

[celest dome]

Root beers don't exist in my country, but we have quite a few fruit beers
Krieks, Lambics...

[west pendant]

jk

[queen laurel]

you just made fun of like everyone in this chat

And everyone in the book club

[west pendant]

would you say its a heresy

maybe a

horus

heresy

[queen laurel]

i'm gonna hit you in the head with a metal chair propelled by a rocket

[west pendant]

very creative

[rocky gale]

Where's Dilara when you need someone mauled to death

[lament shoal]

Funny enough the reason why people can afford, or at least barely afford this hobby in any capacity is because they're employed lmao

[hollow lantern]

You can find a lot of cheap 40k stuff on ebay and facebook marketplace btw

Somewhere out there there's always someone selling an army for cheap

[west pendant]

Im not against reading some novels but I really dont have time, I mean I could stop playing the games but I dont want to do that

[shadow plover]

get audiobooks and you can do other stuff at the same time

[lament shoal]

Don't let Dilara hear you say that though

[queen laurel]

Dilara is a bit of a boomer don't worry

[rocky gale]

If you ain't got the paper in your hand it don't count

[dark moon]

Facts.

[hollow lantern]

40k has some really good audio dramas tbh

[queen laurel]

well fellas i'm just gonna reinforce my house before somebody crawls through my vent

[dark moon]

Physical books or nothing at all.

[west pendant]

I refuse

I either read or I play games

I dont do both at the same time

[rocky gale]

Like if I'm sitting in the lunch hall with earpods listening to a book people are still going to try and talk to me, but if I'm holding a book in front of my face then I'm fine

[shadow plover]

this is anti dyslexia discrimination

[queen laurel]

i should get that Abraxia spear of the everchosen audio book

[rocky gale]

Just read better

[west pendant]

I cant read in public, and I wont listen to shit in public

I get too easily distracted

[queen laurel]

I'm a freakish hybrid of A ebook reader and audio book listener

[west pendant]

i do ebooks

[rose thorn]

It’s a hard start, you have to get use to the narrators pretty bad Inuit accent mimicry

[queen laurel]

fuck

welp

[rose thorn]

I don’t know why they have a British women copy a North American specific accent

[rocky gale]

Of all the accents to try and imitate

[rose thorn]

It makes sense for the story

It’s just not great

She sounds very stuffy like she has a cold

[rose thorn]

SORRY

I THOGUHT YOU SAID THE YNDRASTA BOOK

[queen laurel]

well there's my plans for that ruined

[urban spire]

on one hand, imitating accents for an audiobook kinda sucks but on the other books that demand accent work kinda suck too

[queen laurel]

it's OK

[rose thorn]

Nono that book I haven’t read

Sort

Sorry*

I thoguht you said spear of sigmar

[urban spire]

like you don't have to do an accent unprompted

[rose thorn]

I’ve been staring at Genestealer cult symbols for like 4 hours my brain has rotted

[urban spire]

mind, a lot of importent and foundational novels kinda suck

[rose thorn]

If you listen to it tell me if it’s good

[urban spire]

Snow Crash for example is really good, but wow it also sucks a lot

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit

[lament shoal]

Deserved

[opaque coyote]

Ubisoft isn't even a 1 billion euro company anymore

[rose thorn]

God I hate Ubisoft lol

[rocky gale]

Someone post the white scar meme

[sacred ginkgo]

What the fuck did they say

[opaque coyote]

Lfg!?!!!!

[west pendant]

ubisoft nooo

man they used to cook

[rose thorn]

Oh bulgur

[rose thorn]

Have you voted on the cult symbol yet

[west pendant]

how much is game workshop worth

[rocky gale]

Wrong one

[lament shoal]

I know

[queen laurel]

also funny you pointed this out to me but i guess even Archaon still is a Sigmarite because both him and sigmar have badass spear girl

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though down 91% is equivalent to being a victim of a bolter

[sacred ginkgo]

What did they do

[rose thorn]

^

[hollow lantern]

Continued to be ubisoft, I imagine

[opaque coyote]

Well

Ubisoft