40k-lore-chat

[outer wave]

Unfortunate

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[crystal forum]

he left lol

[sacred bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5kEVzmaukwQ

[vagrant fox]

Some of the biggest hoes I know are into tarot cards tho

[storm jungle]

Misty my beloved

[vagrant fox]

good, very good

[outer wave]

Oh he left? Didnt even realize

[crystal forum]

yeah i feel like i'm the only one who keeps tabs on annoying people

[vagrant fox]

I filter them from my brain

[crystal forum]

he would get really defensive when i called him weird it was enjoyable

[outer wave]

I recall him getting REALLY annoying about stuff

I cant remember what exactly now

[vagrant fox]

I don't remember I just had some random memory of whatever he was called floating around

[celest cedar]

where thisd from

[storm jungle]

Solo Levelling i think

that one gay anime

[lament shoal]

I've never even watched it I just like the pic for meme usage lmao

[storm jungle]

too late, kill him

[vagrant fox]

all the animes are gay

[crystal forum]

found it

[outer wave]

^

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[outer wave]

To Sig

[lament shoal]

CANT CATCH ME

[storm jungle]

OH KRAIT

[outer wave]

Which gay anime?

[crystal forum]

no you're agreeing with me berk

[storm jungle]

yeah they literally just disappeared

[crystal forum]

can't undo it

[outer wave]

FUCK, NOOOOO--

[storm jungle]

😔

[outer wave]

Least he got his exams done

Hope he's doing well in school

[celest cedar]

we lost another one of the good ones

[celest cedar]

you had me lost interest at anime

🫡

[crystal forum]

based?

[vagrant fox]

cassimps should be executed by firing squads

There hasn't been a good anime this decade also miyazaki was right about it being a mistake

[outer wave]

I havent kept up with this season

Spring/Summer had some bangers

City the Animation, Apocalypse Hotel, Panty and Stocking S2

Also Apothacary Diaries S2

[vagrant fox]

smh my head

[crystal forum]

i am thankful to miyasuzuki for creating hentai

[outer wave]

I thank that one artist that drew The Fisherman's Wife's Dream that we have hentai as crazy as it is today

[daring creek]

Normal

[celest cedar]

thanking miyazaki for anime artstyle thas it

we can leave anime as an animation media in the past tho

[storm jungle]

isnt he like 100 years old

[daring creek]

I'm hungry

Someone send me food

I'm hungry.

[outer wave]

I think like late 80s but yeah he's old

[dire loom]

I already did, you still hungry?

[outer wave]

84 actually

[dire loom]

[outer wave]

Huh

[daring creek]

When tf u feed me

[crystal forum]

i have arsenic

get it

arse

[storm jungle]

love his work but god id hate to be anywhere near him, fucking stuckup prick lol

[dire loom]

sigh

[daring creek]

Give me 5 billion dollars

[vagrant fox]

I've only got liver pate

[outer wave]

Yeah, considering what I heard about how he handled his son's first movie, yeah seems like a guy who only loves his work

[crystal forum]

netherlands fine dining

[outer wave]

Admirable man, but yeah

Dickhead

[dire loom]

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes a cunt like most master artists unfortunately

never meet your idols

[nocturne crest]

I got a silly idea. What if the new class is a genestealer taken from the crew.

[vagrant fox]

you should eat some of that canadian yellow snow

[outer wave]

Hence I stay in my lane and hope to never run into a Youtuber that I like on the streets

Because Id be nervous and I dunno if they'd just be dickheads

[daring creek]

This is possible even with a Hiveganger

[dire loom]

Context too lazy to scroll up

[outer wave]

Jay brought up Miyazaki when anime was brought up, Dilara asked how old the fella is and yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah hes like 200

[nocturne crest]

Interesting.

[vagrant fox]

Between the godfather of manga dying and people discovering a huge stash of sexy mouse drawings and miyazakis general attitude we can safely assume japanese creatives are unhinged

[daring creek]

Markiplier punched me in the face when I asked him for an autograph for the 34th time

[storm jungle]

based

[nocturne crest]

Also, we should get a blow torch as a weapon in darktide.

[crystal forum]

no

[outer wave]

He's only a year or 2 younger than my grandma before she passed

[daring creek]

Saying that only because tyranids are borderline social contagions

[nocturne crest]

Yes.

[crystal forum]

sadly he's japanese so he might live 400 years

[daring creek]

I need to touch a tyranid book they sound so fucking cool

[nocturne crest]

Wait, what if the new class is a member of the water cartel.

[crystal forum]

you can touch my book

[daring creek]

I don't like the bible

I'm hungry

Someone send me food

[lament shoal]

New class will be Swagger

[crystal forum]

i would combust if i entered a church

[storm jungle]

highly recommend the codexes

[nocturne crest]

How about a flare gun?

Also, is there a darktide side based on the water cartel?

[daring creek]

Is it plentiful on lexicanium or do you mean like an actual book. Also codex is just how to play the board game right

[storm jungle]

Lexicanum is a summary wikipedia

[vagrant fox]

Codex is lore

[nocturne crest]

The purple gangers who's dead bodies we see now and again.

[storm jungle]

i mean an actual codex

[lament shoal]

Codexes contain a lot of lore too

[storm jungle]

the codexes have lore then rules afterwards

[nocturne crest]

Yes

[dire loom]

Oh!

[daring creek]

You've got quite a few fire based weapons tho

[nocturne crest]

Imagine doing a mission in pitch black.

[daring creek]

Nade, flame thrower. Combat shotgun special round

[daring creek]

Lights out

[lament shoal]

That's a thing already lmfao

[nocturne crest]

Oh damn...

[daring creek]

Lmfao

They can be fun and pretty scary

[nocturne crest]

I have not played in a while.

[storm jungle]

awhile?

[dark moon]

Best mission type (minus the eye strain )

[storm jungle]

LIGHTS OUT HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FOR 3 YEARS

😭

SINCE LAUNCH EVEN

[daring creek]

Maybe they somehow never got that modifier

[storm jungle]

thats impossible

[lament shoal]

Love it when this track plays for lights out missions, fits with the scary and stressful vibe https://youtu.be/JBJ7n9lYSM0?si=2rEyr0PiZLOOR6cj

[daring creek]

Lights out rolling steel when

[storm jungle]

Transit Horde is SO fucking good

[arctic talon]

Lights out is peak

[storm jungle]

especially when the only light source is the lasbolts

[crystal forum]

i turn off music because i hate trash fake techno

[hallow plover]

Wasn't lights out maelstrom missions only?

[arctic talon]

no

[nocturne crest]

I can't remember doing lights out!

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/drmanhattan-watchman-delete-erase-gif-4932378

[storm jungle]

gonna fucking rip your balls off

[crystal forum]

also i cant listen to jack shit when playing darktide because of sound cues

[storm jungle]

????

[crystal forum]

i HATE THIS GAME

[storm jungle]

you literally can

KILL HIM

[crystal forum]

not to the sound levels i want

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/123-gif-27708605

[lament shoal]

The mutant noise is a loud ass echoing roar how much louder so you want it

[crystal forum]

im sorry guys i just have actual taste in music

sorry to break the news

[dark moon]

Increased daemonhost spawns are my favorite part of lights out missions. Whack-a-Daemonhost is my favorite minigame, as you can tell.

[hallow plover]

💀

[crystal forum]

nah the hit indicator

[storm jungle]

Gut this guy

burn him

[arctic talon]

literally the one thing that makes me wana play them less

lol

[storm jungle]

feed him to a paper shredder

[arctic talon]

The DH

out the ass

but whatever

[hallow plover]

Jay's alright... like most of the times

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

Me to Jay

[dark moon]

Just thammer backstab bonk pal, simple as.

[crystal forum]

i feel like i just called kpop mid on twitter

[outer wave]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

I don't like thammer

[crystal forum]

it's just generic ost guys

[arctic talon]

I'm gona be honest here lol

[hallow plover]

Anyone have the skaven warpflamer version of this

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/voting-stalin-gif-19300892

[lament shoal]

You committed the greatest cardinal sin in the darktide server, which is when you don't give Jesper Kyd his much deserved meat riding

[wintry cloud]

You’re in the wrong setting my friend

May need to go to vermintide or something

[crystal forum]

that's why i turn off music in all my 40k games

sad part of reality

[dark moon]

“Passed….unanimously, thank you.”

[nocturne crest]

Also, PS just won the console wars, because xbox are going to become a brand of PCs now.

[daring creek]

Man Darktide would be a lot better if it had fartcore

[dark moon]

The heck is fartcore?

[crystal forum]

are you a space marine 2 ost lover or something

[daring creek]

[nocturne crest]

Hatsume Miku Darktide mod when?

[daring creek]

You can do that

[lament shoal]

When was that ever stated

[daring creek]

With nugico aquila

[crystal forum]

WHAT MUSIC ARE YOU DEFENDING

[lament shoal]

Yes

In all seriousness, Darktide's

[crystal forum]

i'm going to use a random emoji in my favorites and you will have to decide what it means

[outer wave]

In all fairness, I can get where Jay is coming from

[crystal forum]

wait fuck

[lament shoal]

LMAO

[outer wave]

Sometimes its nice to just have something else playing in the background

[nocturne crest]

Also, veteran doing the Peter Griffin pose.

[dark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-princess-bride-you-fool-gullible-gotcha-gif-6946411417248849814

[lament shoal]

I flustered him guys, pointless internet debate won

[storm jungle]

Jay is ragebaiting, just do this to him:

[crystal forum]

you're just lucky that like half my emojis are gay as hell

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UBgYLjTERs Me muting Darktide so I can blast this over the mic

[daring creek]

[nocturne crest]

Imagine if GW decided to make a game with Telltale (before they collapsed.)

[storm jungle]

they did

its called Tales from Borderlands

and its peak

[nocturne crest]

It is peak.

[daring creek]

Feels like I have that game

[lament shoal]

My vet using an archeotech music player (an ipod touch) to listen to ancient hymns from the dark age of technology (kasane teto)

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-bird-brain-job-application-meme-gif-17107297268737814461

[storm jungle]

god theres a great L4D2 mod

where it replaces the Tank with a job application

[lament shoal]

LMFAO

[daring creek]

HORRIFYING

[storm jungle]

ITS SO GOOD

[outer wave]

FUCK

[lament shoal]

Nick's worst nightmare

[nocturne crest]

Need that in darktide.

[storm jungle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3476941481

[crystal forum]

greatest enemy

[daring creek]

I realized a job application isn't scary because GET A FUCKING JOB but because I CAN'T GET A FUCKING JOB!

[lament shoal]

Speaking of which

[nocturne crest]

Tbf, some places make you pay to have a chance at a job.

[lament shoal]

My local supermarket that I applied to rejected me

[crystal forum]

the job application is scary because i have to fill out so fucking many

[dark moon]

Welcome to the jobless club pal.

[nocturne crest]

It is an illegal tactic.

[crystal forum]

and i always have to write it all down manually

[daring creek]

ONE ZILLION

[dark moon]

Cue the 5 billion workday accounts you have to make.

[daring creek]

Manually??

Are you not doing it online

[outer wave]

I recommend going into medical jobs, since there is a general shortage

[daring creek]

[daring creek]

Don't think so unless theres somenice

[lament shoal]

Hospitals tend to be shitty places to work

[outer wave]

They're not great no

[dark moon]

FeelsKarkingTerribleMan

[outer wave]

Im not a nurse though

[dark moon]

I sympathize

[outer wave]

Im trying to get a job in the labs

I get to talk to people ALOT less

[crystal forum]

berk you're generic

[dark moon]

The dream.

[daring creek]

At this point we should just start working there not applying

[outer wave]

Ouch, but fair

[lament shoal]

Ty

[outer wave]

I also like the sciences

[daring creek]

I will not take a rejection as an answer. I'm working at your super market

[outer wave]

And I cant get into research

[crystal forum]

HA

[outer wave]

I know you got into research FUCK YOU

[dark moon]

I sure do love the circuitous song and dance of 5 interviews because apparently management can’t make up their minds.

[outer wave]

At least I can get a paycheck ✊ 😔

[crystal forum]

well photonics research

so very niche

anybody could do this

[daring creek]

What's photonics research

Where you

Photo

The nics?

[paper haven]

Are 40k fans really mad about the new Boltgun game?

[outer wave]

Some are, twitter people mostly

[daring creek]

Idk

[dark moon]

You know the job market/hiring process is cooked when my old man gives me the “back in my day, we only had to go through one interview, maybe two at the most.”

[daring creek]

Is there a w*men in the game

[paper haven]

Twitter people aren't real people though.

[outer wave]

SoB so yes

[daring creek]

LOL

[outer wave]

They got mad that a SoB is playable

[daring creek]

Legitimately yeah some of them aren't even real

[daring creek]

If it's fun.

I

Might touch the game

[paper haven]

By which I mean bots, of course

[daring creek]

First game was

Ass

[outer wave]

Isnt twitter like 75-85% bots?

[daring creek]

Absolute nothing burger

[paper haven]

I haven't played the first one because I don't really like boomer shooters

Or retro artstyles

Or ultramarines

[lament shoal]

LMAO

[dire loom]

Who would be mad about glorious Sisters of Battle? Lol

[crystal forum]

it's memes

[dire loom]

Wild

[outer wave]

People that do not like women or something, idk

Its weird

[crystal forum]

but gamers love the sob

[paper haven]

Or bots trying to ragebait

[crystal forum]

boob armor

yeah mostly likely bots

dont use twitter

[outer wave]

Boobie armor, but if Im playing a woman? DISGUSTING!!

GROSS, ICKY

YUCKY

[paper haven]

Or actual people trying to ragebait, there really are a lot of options here

[surreal nest]

Don't let anybody convince you that the warhammer community isnt constantly dismissing and complaining about the existence of SoB

Its a real thing its not some meme we can just wave away

[paper haven]

I'm sure it happens

[lament shoal]

Ik lol that's why its funny

[paper haven]

I've seen R/40k memes

[surreal nest]

Ive heard countless horror stories of people with SoB armies being thrown crazy ass remarks

[crystal forum]

no it sucks. it should be ferus manus

[dire loom]

🗣️ I love WOMEN!

[outer wave]

I LOVE WOMEN! I LOVE WOMEN! AND OCCASIONALLY FEMININE MEN!!!

[daring creek]

I was about to say twitter dot com is literally ran by a nazi who literally gives racist opinion a boost in the algorithm

[dire loom]

Round up the women hating heretics! Purge em all. This is the will of the Lex.

[daring creek]

It's confirmed

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-james-doakes-dexter-morgan-dexter-flashlight-gif-10593574466888155064

[paper haven]

I also love women unless they are beating me in the game, then I hate them.

[crystal forum]

women are ok but lesbians terrify me

[paper haven]

Not because I'm sexist, just because I hate losing.

[lament shoal]

Lebanons

[daring creek]

Verified hitler accounts are literally excluded from the rules and given free reign

[outer wave]

Got a lesbian couple as friends, can confirm

[daring creek]

The SoBs make me wanna be a heretic

[crystal forum]

free reich

joke was right there

[daring creek]

I need my ass kicked by a woman

[crystal forum]

see

lesbians are weird

[dark moon]

Same pal, same.

[lament shoal]

I love the kind of woman that will actually just kill me

[paper haven]

Easily 40 percent of all heretics just want to talk to a Sister of Battle

[daring creek]

I am a functional individual

I am totally not a menace to society

[crystal forum]

STOP BEING WEIRD

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-gif-13250124

[daring creek]

With every passing blasphemy I commit. I get closer to a fem arbitrator chasing me

[paper haven]

I've been friends with two lesbians and I didn't know they were lesbians until I found out they had wives.

[crystal forum]

worst gaydar

you can immediately fucking tell lesbians

way easier than gays

[paper haven]

I just thought they were really chill.

[daring creek]

Not really

Sometime yeah sometimes no

[crystal forum]

always yeah

[daring creek]

Some girls are jusr girls.

[crystal forum]

nah nah

i can always tell

[daring creek]

Dude has an x ray

[paper haven]

Granted, they were both electricians so maybe that was the big hint

[daring creek]

The stereotyping lmfao

[crystal forum]

meanwhile i can never tell if a guy is just a performative fuckboy or bi

[paper haven]

But there are plenty of other women in the trades that aren't lesbian so

[outer wave]

Tbf I never knew one of my lesbians friends (really just bi from what I know) swung both ways until I started noticing she and the lesbian in class holding hands and shit

[crystal forum]

did you call them out and inform the authorities

[lament shoal]

Its always harder with guys. Probably because being gay as a man is a bit more frowned upon

So lots of them hide it

[crystal forum]

it's because straight guys act gay now

[lament shoal]

That too lol

[daring creek]

HOLDING HANDS BEFORE MARRIAGE IS LITERAL HERESY

[crystal forum]

guys didn't used to care about what they looked like

[paper haven]

Holding hands would be a pretty big sign

[crystal forum]

now guys have body issues and go to the gym and shit

[daring creek]

NERVOUSLY LOADS BOLTER MAG UPSIDE DOWN WHERE

[crystal forum]

straight up gay behavior

also metrosexuals

i hate them all

[daring creek]

stop saying metrosexual

I can never remember the fucking meaning

[outer wave]

What even is a metrosexual? Sexual for metro stations?

[paper haven]

I can't tell if you're joking about guys caring about their appearance being gay

[daring creek]

YEAH

METROSEXUALS HUMP TRAIN CARS

[crystal forum]

urban fuckboy types who live alone and usually work in business

[outer wave]

I see

[daring creek]

HOW DOES THAT INVOLVE SEXUALITY

[crystal forum]

it's a pun

[outer wave]

Sounds more like slang than an official sexual term

[crystal forum]

the name is a joke on how they act gay as fuck

while being very toxic male

and metropolitan

[paper haven]

I'm still lost on how caring about one's appearance is a gay activity

[crystal forum]

alright so roll back to the 90's

[lament shoal]

Random cock check, guardsman! For your sake, it should be soft.

[crystal forum]

back then guys just had to be dudes right

look decent and you'd get a girl

now with social media pressure and shit you got lots of guys who feel intense body dismorphia

[lament shoal]

True

[crystal forum]

the type of stuff that women suffered a lot with

way longer

[lament shoal]

I blame toxic internet body building culture

[outer wave]

And movies

And ads

[crystal forum]

and like it's just fact that gay people take care of their bodies more than the average shlubby straight guy

[paper haven]

Arnold was a body builder in like, the 70s and suffered badly from it.

[daring creek]

Everyone does. Body dysphoria definitely intensified with social media.

[paper haven]

I'd agree that social media makes it worse but how is that gay?

[crystal forum]

now you have straight guys doing gay activities it's just that really

[paper haven]

Gay activities like having sex with men or?

[young pecan]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

guh

[outer wave]

We're gonna have more gay men within the next 20 or so years

[lament shoal]

Gay sex is pretty cool ngl 👍

[paper haven]

I've watched five guys standing in front of a full body mirror flexing and talking about how they feel about this muscle group or that muscle group.

[crystal forum]

that's not even gay

[daring creek]

Not to say Gay men are inherently feminine.

But like. When guys start going in the feminine direction. Like crossdressing. They suddenly really start having higher standards for their outer body and being more critical....for the better and for the worst but with femininity comes with a higher standard set for oneself in presentation.

[crystal forum]

that's pretty manly tbh

[daring creek]

Nothing gay about 5 dudes appreciating eachothers body

[paper haven]

Body builders in particular seem to take their appearance very, very seriously and when they can't get it the way they want, they tend to spiral. At least from what I've witnessed. Every single guy I know that used steriods did it purely so they would look the way they wanted

[daring creek]

[crystal forum]

no it's different i feel with bodybuilders

[daring creek]

Oh jesus yeah.

[crystal forum]

im talking people who go to the gym to get laid

[daring creek]

Oh. Christ.

That's just awful.

[crystal forum]

because they feel like they genuinely cannot get sex if they don't lift

the performative stuff

[daring creek]

I believe that's incel ideology. I'm being serious

[outer wave]

Probably is

[daring creek]

Guys like that treat relationships like a purchase.

[young pecan]

Part of the rightoid pipeline is thinking that your body is bad because you're short or not swole or fat etc.

[paper haven]

I'd classify that as incel stuff too. Or maybe that Alpha Male stuff

[daring creek]

Like

[young pecan]

It absolutely is incel stuff

[daring creek]

What a girl would really want

Is for you to go to therapy

[crystal forum]

yeah well that's really common amongst metrosexual types

[daring creek]

And like

[young pecan]

There is something wrong with them but it's not their body

[daring creek]

Grow as a person

[paper haven]

Shoulders the size of boulders

[crystal forum]

just think the average business major douchebag

[daring creek]

And understand yourself a little better. And like

See women as people

And that's it

[young pecan]

Literally just consider yourself and others more

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-24639141

[outer wave]

I find myself a bit insecure about my body, but other than my muscle mass, I think Im decently good looking

[young pecan]

A lot of dudes think that putting yourself second and conceding to everything a girl says and playing safe to a T is a valid approach

It is so, so NOT a good approach

[dark moon]

Best I can do is provide a warhammer book collection. And talk for hours on end about obscure parts of the lore.

[paper haven]

👩 ☕

[young pecan]

Unironically much much better than a swole gymbro

[daring creek]

I learned to put myself second from being a caregiver for most of my life.

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-smash-angry-resident-evil-chris-gif-15977463

Boulders mentioned

[crystal forum]

tbh i also think that people do not fucking appreciate kindness in relationships usually

[daring creek]

Oh yeah like

Nerd out

[dark moon]

I have the muscular build of a twig, that ain’t gonna change much

[paper haven]

Chris Redfield is my personal hero.

[crystal forum]

i know so many people who outright seek to be abused

[daring creek]

Talk about your interests

[young pecan]

Don't I know it

[daring creek]

Your passions

Your genuine person

[young pecan]

Oh you mean in a different way

[paper haven]

I enjoy punching boulders

And I like Warhammer 40k.

I don't play the tabletop game though

[daring creek]

Don't punch rocks

[lament shoal]

I hate that sexual assault on males is actually something some guys fantasize about. And they also criticize other men who think that's weird

[daring creek]

Will break knuckles

[paper haven]

Well yeah, that's sort of the point

[crystal forum]

yeah breaking bones and having them rebuild stiffer

[dark moon]

Get yourself a nice warhammer fantasy army pal. Or just play warhammer via tabletop simulator.

[young pecan]

"Need more male SA rep" until it happens and then they either downplay it or romanticize it

EIGH

[lament shoal]

Literally

[crystal forum]

just get a domination kink bro it's so simple 😭

[paper haven]

I have Tabletop sim and I still don't care for the tabletop game. It's not a price issue I just don't like the game

[lament shoal]

I've noticed that both men and women do that

[young pecan]

True but mostly men

Especially older men being entirely serious about it

[lament shoal]

Yeah

[young pecan]

"I wish I had a woman do that when I was his age"

[crystal forum]

speaking of which a twitch streamer got assaulted on cam and the assaulter didn't even get punished

like a day ago

[paper haven]

I recently saw a female streamer responding to a guy saying she SA's him by saying it must be embarrassing to admit that

[young pecan]

both barrels in yo mouth for that comment slime

[paper haven]

So, you know, that's not great.

[daring creek]

Well a fetish will be a fetish. As long as you recognize it as a fantasy and don't glorify it in REALITY. That's fine.

Infact that's a pretty common kink amongst ppl in BDSM. iirc it's literally 50/50 amongst women and men.

[lament shoal]

She got banned but knowing twitch its probably only gonna be for like 3 days

[crystal forum]

she didn't even get banned

[young pecan]

Bro

[crystal forum]

no she got unbanned!!!

[paper haven]

Yeah see two different responses

[dark moon]

See, when I say things like that in general chat, I’m entirely joking for the sake of being the funny—haha—clown man. (Because inside there is pain) but I do not for a second mean it. (Because it would bloody hurt and I like keeping my bones intact.)

[crystal forum]

double post?

[lament shoal]

Called it

[coral granite]

Let's get the cuffs out

[paper haven]

Well I didn't say who it was, maybe there's more than one incident. This is Twitch, afterall

[lament shoal]

No like I get that. And having a fetish is fine so long as its reasonable and between consenting adult parties. But I'm talking about the people who romanticize actual legitimate sexual assault against men

[daring creek]

Oh

[dark moon]

Absolute yikes.

[daring creek]

Unfortunately a thing

[outer wave]

It sounds incredibly cool until you realize its against your will and its with a person you dont even hold feelings for, and Im sure the people who spout shit like this wouldnt like actually being in that situation

[coral granite]

Actually cnc is a common kink

[paper haven]

Yeah, seems to me that wishing it to happen to you kind of goes against the core concept of SA

[crystal forum]

command and conquer kink

[outer wave]

Peace through Power.....

[paper haven]

God I love those games

[outer wave]

That is a turn on

[paper haven]

Kane Lives

[coral granite]

Consented non-consent

[young pecan]

CNC is a relatively broad umbrella tbf

[crystal forum]

im definitely the kinkest person here

so i will say

idk what to say

[outer wave]

Do you think when Christmas is around, they say "Kane Gives!" because Kane goes around in a santa outfit giving out presents?

[paper haven]

Now I do

[outer wave]

Good

[crystal forum]

wanna know the oddest thing i've discovered in my kink adventures

[lament shoal]

I take issue with this statement but out of my own personal privacy I will not be revealing my kinks to the fucking darktide discord

[crystal forum]

the kinkest people are often asexual

[outer wave]

Lets all reveal our kinks in the chat in 3

2

[crystal forum]

what this means i dont know

[outer wave]

1

[coral granite]

Age play?

[outer wave]

COC--

FUCK

[paper haven]

I don't even know what kinks are

[dark moon]

Ain’t that a hole in a boat pal.

[crystal forum]

you have no fucking idea the depths i've been in

[paper haven]

The Infantryman's Primer has no definition for the term

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-are-you-challenging-me-scooby-gif-13519095

[coral granite]

When you get older you will find out

[crystal forum]

you're probably an amateur

i however

am a furry

[coral granite]

A yiffer

[paper haven]

Do I have to? I'd rather just never age

[lament shoal]

Are you still a furry if you wanna fuck anthro characters but don't rp being one yourself

[coral granite]

Or more like pet and Master?

[crystal forum]

are you assuming i dont rp

[wind hornet]

It's an age old question

[lament shoal]

No I'm asking for myself lol

[hallow plover]

[lament shoal]

Real

[crystal forum]

there's actual human character furries

it's weird i know

[hallow plover]

We're in deep darktide chat lore rn

[crystal forum]

also rare

[paper haven]

Does being attracted to Hadron make you a furry?

[coral granite]

You yiff or is it more Master and pet?

[crystal forum]

no it makes you a clanker loving geardick

[lament shoal]

Well regardless furries are hot

[paper haven]

Yeah but where does that fall on the Furry/ not a furry scale?

[coral granite]

Oh or breeding?

[opaque coyote]

I mean, for starters, would fucking 2B from Nier Automata count as being a furry

[crystal forum]

funny enough i have never seen a furry actually use the term yiff unironically

it's weird how people think we use it

[paper haven]

The people need to know

[opaque coyote]

She looks completely human but she's a robot

So

I think Nier Androids have biological parts anyways

No

I was thinking of another type of android ncm

Terminators

[lament shoal]

Of course they do, their creator is horny for em

[opaque coyote]

For some reason

[lament shoal]

Also he wanted 2b and 9s to fuck in the show

[opaque coyote]

I think the Androids in NiER have a rubber like material as a skin

[coral granite]

Well you know what I meant and that the point got across just no answer in return

[paper haven]

Terminators have dangly bits

[crystal forum]

no i genuinely dont get the question

[opaque coyote]

I mean the choking scene alone

[paper haven]

At least the ones wearing skin do

[opaque coyote]

[crystal forum]

since i dont even know what yiff means

[lament shoal]

Furry sex

That's literally it

[crystal forum]

literally nobody uses it

[coral granite]

Fur on fur action? Master and pet? Or breeding?

[opaque coyote]

I think it was used unironically back in the 2000s-early 2010s.

But it sorta fell off

[paper haven]

I have yet to see the anime

[lament shoal]

I think fur on fur

[crystal forum]

petplay is its own thing

[opaque coyote]

Talking about the game

[crystal forum]

in fact you dont have to be a furry to do petplay

just look at puppyplay

[paper haven]

See what I mean?

[opaque coyote]

Although they often overlap tbh

[crystal forum]

not really even

[opaque coyote]

But they can be separate

[crystal forum]

lots of gay people do petplay without being furries

[languid meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113625731197579315/1153047457173880842/attachment-9.gif

[crystal forum]

and i mean LOTS

[outer wave]

Yeah I didnt think petplay and such was a strictly furry thing

[languid meadow]

Not the topic I would expect in here but not surprised

[opaque coyote]

Aware.

There is overlap but it can just have one or the other

[crystal forum]

im not into it personally i find the puppy masks creepy

[paper haven]

Is the human pet of a furry also a furry?

[coral granite]

I'm not asking about other people I'm asking about you. Also I know this I been in the lifestyle before it was a fad

[opaque coyote]

Don't ask a Furry supremacist what race their lover is

[languid meadow]

I think puppy masks are like a diff type of pet play, like I've seen it done without em

[lament shoal]

Also i am NOT

[crystal forum]

a fad? 🤨

[paper haven]

A tale as old as time.

[crystal forum]

ye i do it without it

[paper haven]

Oh, wait. A tail as old as time.

[coral granite]

Yes before everyone started getting all over it because of 50 shades of grey. I was one of old guard teachings

[paper haven]

Never ask a Nord the race of his maid

[lament shoal]

NCS artist my beloved

[crystal forum]

pyro's pet inflation artist

[crystal forum]

damn you're old

[opaque coyote]

"Make me inflated to the point where I'm bloated again, NCS."

"Yes Pyro..."

[crystal forum]

nah they prob love it

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/recite-deep-magic-witch-i-was-there-it-was-written-gif-15820897709462081617

[crystal forum]

and good for pyro

[lament shoal]

Does he actually commission her for that stuff

[crystal forum]

yep

arent they dating?

[lament shoal]

Holy shit new lore

[crystal forum]

i thought they were

i dont know anything dont quote me

[barren briar]

Why

[opaque coyote]

Pyro has had bad luck so far in the romance department.

Idk their current relationship, and tbh I don't care, but I wish him well.

[lament shoal]

I do love how pyro just owns it now and plays into the memes

[crystal forum]

yeah good for him

inflation is a wacky kink though

[opaque coyote]

Too much at times tbh.

It's getting annoyin...

Holy shit

[crystal forum]

i find it very comedic

[opaque coyote]

New tactic unlocked ig

Make it a stale joke

Now nobody will care

[coral granite]

I have had littles, pets, brats, slaves. You name it but my preference is brats and slaves littles are new to me which is my current sub

[crystal forum]

alright i yield

this is interesting

[opaque coyote]

A varied diet (tm)

[coral granite]

Well it is through many years so

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/clever-girl-raptor-jurassic-park-clever-dinosaur-gif-16307907

[crystal forum]

i'm getting into drones myself rn

[coral granite]

Longest relationship was 7 years

[crystal forum]

seems cute af

[coral granite]

That was with a brat

[barren briar]

hey man can you remove your pron profile picture it makes me uncomfortable

[paper haven]

That's fairly impressive

[crystal forum]

brat isn't really a kink though right

[lament shoal]

Oh fun fact, my bf was actually open to a commissar x guardsman rp when I brought up the idea as a half joke

[crystal forum]

it's just a type of bottom really

im not really into big brattiness

it gets on my nerves

[opaque coyote]

YOU SAY AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEX

ALSO IT'S NOT PORN, SHE IS YAWNING

[barren briar]

ur not big on anything u don't leave ur home

[opaque coyote]

GET YOUR HEAD

OUT OF THE GUTTER

[barren briar]

yeah sure furry weirdo creepy reject outcast

[paper haven]

I don't go outside.

[barren briar]

enjoy the internet

[paper haven]

It's loud out there.

[coral granite]

It's a type of sub. One that likes to test your patience and expect funishment in return.

[lament shoal]

Brats are fun

[crystal forum]

yeah i dont like it a lot usually

[opaque coyote]

Well that's rather

Punny

[barren briar]

he knows so much about sex

[crystal forum]

i like a little bit of bratiness

[opaque coyote]

ba dum tss

[crystal forum]

but too much is like guuuuh

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[crystal forum]

just tell me you like it ffs

i need the validation

[paper haven]

People don't have sex anymore

Not since the pandemic.

[coral granite]

It's over rated

[crystal forum]

i still love it

[coral granite]

Need spice

[crystal forum]

can't wait to hate it when i'm 35

[outer wave]

Id personally like some fuck

But also lazy and too busy

[paper haven]

All I got for spices are herbs

[celest cedar]

kink talk eh

[outer wave]

The 11 accosted spices for KFC

[paper haven]

I bought some oregano thinking it was weed

[lament shoal]

Scroll up we been kink talking

[barren briar]

And aware that no one would want

[celest cedar]

Im too sleep deprived to read up

[outer wave]

Aware of no one would want me? Yeah true enough in some groups for sure

[paper haven]

I didn't try to smoke it, of course. Drugs scare me.

[crystal forum]

surprisingly boring kink discussion

[barren briar]

in all groups

[crystal forum]

i'd want berk

[outer wave]

😳

[barren briar]

you aren't human you don't count

[lament shoal]

Oviposition 👍

[outer wave]

Thanks Jay

[crystal forum]

[barren briar]

ur a weird furry criminal

lwk scary individual

[outer wave]

Yeah thats a rough one to get over

i feel like Im mostly out of some of that

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-true-cowpoke-pooner-qianlong-gif-3827914201118197286

[barren briar]

fortnite brastemp

[outer wave]

Those are words

[barren briar]

yes

[outer wave]

I dunno what they mean

[paper haven]

Statistically, it's unlikely that all groups find Berk repulsive.

[outer wave]

But they are words

[crystal forum]

even ugly people have sex

[paper haven]

60 percent tops

[barren briar]

i didn't say repulsive

[barren briar]

not uggy

[opaque coyote]

Unrelated fallout NV meme

[barren briar]

uggy do but I didn't say he's ugy

[crystal forum]

you did

pretty mean tbh

[celest cedar]

beauty is in eyes of the beholder from dnd type sh

[barren briar]

meaning of what?

[outer wave]

I had some pics done for online dating and I look like a proper manwhore/Nigerian Prince that needs your help

[paper haven]

Did it work?

[barren briar]

i only use dating apps to scam men

[paper haven]

DID IT WORK?

[celest cedar]

aaah reminds me

[lament shoal]

Dylan has to know

[celest cedar]

that promo image of Fallout season 2

where Lucy is standing

in the middle of a crowd of caesar's legionnaires

[lament shoal]

Who's gonna tell her

[outer wave]

Considering how little hits I get passively, yeah that'd work unironically for most others

[opaque coyote]

As the person who shot the Centurion.

I can safely say no

[celest cedar]

she is in the middle of danger bro

[lament shoal]

Real

[paper haven]

Should have sacrificed 25

[lament shoal]

NOT okey dokey

[opaque coyote]

...yeah honestly she should attempt to piss them off.

Being stabbed to death would be better

[paper haven]

As insane as the match up between the legion and NCR is, the NCR will lose without player intervention

[crystal forum]

i kill legionnaires like they're mormons at my door

[barren briar]

Brastemp Fortnite

[opaque coyote]

Would say no cause they have

Actual guns

The fuck is a legionnaire gonna do against vertibirds shooting them down with machine guns

Jackshit

They definitely would lose hoover dam though

[outer wave]

What in the god damn does that even mean, Im not Gen Alpha enough for this

[opaque coyote]

This is also assuming that the vertibirds aren't the FO4 ones

[crystal forum]

would they come back though

[barren briar]

true ur 58 and virgin

[outer wave]

Im actually younger and Ive had sex

[paper haven]

I mean. They get around it with a few pretty clever tricks and generally being bastards in the lower defended areas. NCR command is compromised all the way to the top. The president gets assassinated, the dam is for sure gonna fall

[barren briar]

im a billionaire

[opaque coyote]

I don't think that the NCR would lose the Mojave to Caesar's Legion.

But I definitely think the dam would fall

And then be recaptured

[outer wave]

Okay

[opaque coyote]

Because the NCR is willing to use modern medicine, sniper tactics, etc. which the Legion notably got decimated by

[barren briar]

guess how much I got money

[outer wave]

0

[paper haven]

The loss of the Dam would definitely cause NCR support for a war that is already extremely unpopular to dry up completely.

[barren briar]

no dummy it has to be above 1 billion

cause I said I'm billionaire

but like how much after that

guess

[crystal forum]

well by the show's logic the NCR dissolved no matter what so

[barren briar]

what about the ncpd night city police depa

[opaque coyote]

True

But at the same time

Would anybody really want to be captured by Caesar's Legion?

It would turn into an existential threat

[outer wave]

Bro I dunno, fuckin' 1 billion and 1?

[paper haven]

They'd most likely decide it isn't worth the trouble. I seriously doubt that the Legion can push much further towards NCR territory though

Once it's fighting over their home territory, the story changes significantly

[crystal forum]

they can after they take the dam. new vegas is all theirs

that's the entire power source

[opaque coyote]

The NCR is bad, but at least you won't be crucified for accidentally coughing in front of a centurion

[crystal forum]

also slavery

[lament shoal]

Don't forget misogyny

[barren briar]

4 bilion

[opaque coyote]

Basically, fear of being enslaved, sexually violated, etc. etc. etc.

Would be a powerful motivator

[paper haven]

The NCR is probably the best civilization to pop up in the fallout series. A proper democratic society.

[outer wave]

Crazy

[crystal forum]

and for that it had to be killed by the show

[barren briar]

weirdo gotta mention sexual violation enslave and torture would be enough but u have ur mind set on that toomuch

pron addict

[paper haven]

Which is why I find it rediculous that a bunch of Roman larpers in football pads are a viable threat

[opaque coyote]

Thanks Bethesda.

You truly know how to make the world feel like it's progressing from the apocalypse

[paper haven]

Case in point: Caesar dying will ensure the legion dies with him

[lament shoal]

Its all about the money

[barren briar]

I've got 4 bilion

[paper haven]

The NCR losing it's leader doesn't kill the NCR

[crystal forum]

the setting has to permanently be cockroaches living in huts. except for bos and enclave

[lament shoal]

No you don't, I ate it all

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[crystal forum]

it didn't even work

[lament shoal]

Ik lol

[outer wave]

I knew they was a liar

[crystal forum]

there's a weird noise upstairs man god i hope there's no home intruder in my house

[lament shoal]

Naw I saw what it said before

[paper haven]

A bit of a side note but I kind of hate that the faction that exemplifies what the actual romans considered to be barbarians is so clearly based off of the Roman empire. I would have liked the NCR to have the Roman legion window dressing and the Legion to be a bunch of steppe barbarian types

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely, I feel like the problem of Fallout is that

They could easily just have games take place earlier in the timeline if they really wanted that apocalyptic feel. Hell 76 did that.

I feel like a theme present in 1 and 2. The progression after the apocalypse, kinda got forgotten about in 3 and 4. With NV continuing that plot point

[crystal forum]

this is serious man

[opaque coyote]

And then the show literally nuking it away

[crystal forum]

WRONG FUCKING EMOJI AGAIN

[lament shoal]

LMAOOOOO

[paper haven]

I still seriously doubt a single city getting nuked would cause the NCR to dissolve. I think this is just Todd hating New Vegas and trying to erase it's legacy

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it is it's capital.

But the NCR still has like

Vault City

Arroyo

Etc.

[paper haven]

Even the capital city

[opaque coyote]

It shouldn't be dissolved even if it's capital city got nukes

[paper haven]

A serious blow? SUre

[crystal forum]

the show just didn't want to deal with an actual new vegas, 1 or 2 fallout

they want a fallout 3

[opaque coyote]

Never understood why they had to wreck older material for that than just

Idk

Going to another state

[crystal forum]

since those earlier (better) fallouts deal with geopolitics

[opaque coyote]

We have 50 of them

We even have canada

[paper haven]

Fallout in Canada though

[opaque coyote]

Which was officially annexed by the US government

In fallout

[paper haven]

I'd like to see that game

[opaque coyote]

Fuck that would be so interesting

[crystal forum]

because west coast objectively had the best material to work with lol

[opaque coyote]

Both the pre and post war potential

[crystal forum]

wtf would the show do with east coast

[opaque coyote]

And they FUCKING NUKED IT

[crystal forum]

the institute?

[paper haven]

If there isn't a faction based off of the mounties then it's a failure

[opaque coyote]

Finally

Radioactive Poutine

[paper haven]

The East coast is a complete mess

Lore wise

Also in real life I guess

[opaque coyote]

I think it got the majority of nukes

[opaque coyote]

Florida is just a hellscape

The glowing sea but literal

[crystal forum]

better than a game ruining it at least

[opaque coyote]

And with alligators

[paper haven]

Florida didn't even realize there was a war

[lament shoal]

So the same as before then?

[crystal forum]

i dont think florida is ever mentioned in lore

[opaque coyote]

No you see

It probably still had a Disneyland equivalent

Nuka World

Probably

But big

Well bigger than the FO4 one

[crystal forum]

just a reminder that fallout new vegas has deep insight in local cultures and mormonism is actually taken seriously

[paper haven]

Nuka World, Florida grew to be the entire state

[crystal forum]

the show will be bos shooting NCR remnants

[lament shoal]

Joshua Graham my beloved

[opaque coyote]

We were spoiled broooo

AAAA

[paper haven]

The war saved the people from corporate slavery

Come on, Bethesda, it's not that hard

[opaque coyote]

Also one of the most interesting logs about somebody who survived the immediate apocalypse

Randal Clark

[crystal forum]

yuuup

[lament shoal]

Bethesda don't caare

[crystal forum]

garantee none of the amazing DLC's will have any relevance to season 2

except some tiny references

[opaque coyote]

Interestingly enough, apparently the severe Fallout lasted for a month before it calmed down.

In Zion national park

[paper haven]

The guy with the Beowolf rifle?

[crystal forum]

no the survival rifle

the one with french writing on it

[paper haven]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

and a table leg as a foregrip

[paper haven]

Chambered in .50 beowolf

[crystal forum]

shoots 12.7mm

[opaque coyote]

The cities probably lasted even longer

[crystal forum]

dylan how old are you

i thought you were like mid 20's

[paper haven]

Thanks

[opaque coyote]

If it lasted for a month in a national park that is miles away from Salt Lake city

[crystal forum]

lower?

[paper haven]

Older

[crystal forum]

oh

my apologies

[paper haven]

For what?

[crystal forum]

for your situation

oldness

[opaque coyote]

It also implies that both China and the US government made their nukes like

Extremely dirty.

[paper haven]

Oh. I thought you were going a different direction with that

[crystal forum]

no

i was making fun of you

[paper haven]

No I know

[crystal forum]

ok

[paper haven]

You were just nicer than I was expecting

[crystal forum]

that's your mistake

[opaque coyote]

YOU SUCK

[crystal forum]

assuming i would be nice

[opaque coyote]

[paper haven]

I assumed you would be mean

[crystal forum]

i was

that was pretty mean

should i be meaner

[paper haven]

But still nicer than I was expecting

[crystal forum]

am i breaking character

[paper haven]

Yes

Very inconsistent

[crystal forum]

i need to rewrite my scripts man

[paper haven]

anyway, survival rifle.

[crystal forum]

the actually good service rifle

ammo is rare sadly

[paper haven]

I read about the character but haven't played the game so his name isn't in my memories but I really liked the character

Sure do wish that you could play as a survivalist right after the bombs fell. You know, in the fallout.

[crystal forum]

no that would require fallout 76 being good

[paper haven]

Gonna be honest I forgot fallout 76 existed

[opaque coyote]

Tbf 76 got better

It's fun

[crystal forum]

the story i mean

being good

[opaque coyote]

Still not as deep writing wise though.

But at the same time, they somehow have

Better systems than 4

Like

[paper haven]

Being fun is the bare minimum for a video game

[opaque coyote]

Actually

The gameplay is better

[crystal forum]

dylan real question

is your pfp ai

[paper haven]

Yeah sorta

[lament shoal]

76 lets you fuck a hot robot wearing fishnet stockings

Absolute cinema

[crystal forum]

aw man

[opaque coyote]

Also unlike 4, all the weapons feel viable

[paper haven]

I can probably draw that but I've not actually drawn anything in a long time

[opaque coyote]

A true fucking accomplishment

[crystal forum]

sadge

[opaque coyote]

Also you can use a fucking Blunderbuss

Like

[paper haven]

Instead I just took a selfie and run it through an ai thing

[opaque coyote]

An actual blunderbuss

[crystal forum]

so you're a hot anime protag?

[opaque coyote]

Writing is fine tbh.

Lore isn't bad either.

[lament shoal]

I went full cowboy and did a western themed build using a lever action rifle, shotgun, and a revolver and it was very fun

[paper haven]

I try not to advertise it

[opaque coyote]

Still not a game for like deep story

Though

[crystal forum]

unfortunate

[languid meadow]

let it hang king

[opaque coyote]

Although unlike 4, it's a live service game

[lament shoal]

The community is very friendly too

[opaque coyote]

And is meant to be an MMO

[lament shoal]

High level players like to give newbies free loot

[opaque coyote]

Well kinda?

[paper haven]

The fallout community?

[opaque coyote]

Eh

[paper haven]

Friendly?

[opaque coyote]

76 players are fairly chill

[lament shoal]

I'm talking about the 76 community specifically

[paper haven]

Alright, that sounds more believable

[opaque coyote]

But for what 76 is, a live service multiplayer fallout game

It's actually pretty good

Definitely improved a lot from release

But it's not something you go for a deep story

[lament shoal]

I built a nice log cabin with a fire lookout tower at twin lakes. Coziest place ever

[opaque coyote]

But it seems like the B-team actually cares about what they're making

Problem is that we haven't really gotten good writing for bethesda's fallout

Or even decent

[lament shoal]

This guy was so chill

[opaque coyote]

Moth man

[lament shoal]

Hell yeah

I loved their portrayal of wendigos too, since they actually took the time to make it accurate

[crystal forum]

moth man is pretty scare legend

how he just pops up

and it's never really explained why he's a fucking moth

like the lamest animal

[lament shoal]

76's whole cryptid feature is so fun and cool ngl

I should talk to my friend about picking it up again tbh

[opaque coyote]

I think my favorite iteration is from trepang2

[barren briar]

Whats you guys peak elo in ur fav competitive game

[opaque coyote]

Haven't played competitive games lately

But I was gold in R6S

That's it

[lament shoal]

Elo?

[opaque coyote]

For reference: https://youtu.be/POjifoEz_-0?si=PBINqPY8RmzXgQBE

[crystal forum]

my biggest disappointment was learning that trepang2 isn't a sequel

[barren briar]

tiny

[barren briar]

Rank/elo/brastemp

[paper haven]

There's a wendigo in Fallout 76?
A lore accurate Wendigo?

[lament shoal]

Ah gotcha

[opaque coyote]

Technically there is a Trepang1.

But it was just a random sea cucumber game the director made when he was bored

[lament shoal]

I made it to silver rank in fortnite once

[crystal forum]

WHAT

[lament shoal]

I'm pretty good at clash royale too

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/8U6tiQgytdk?si=Nr7yTsA5FOgcWbzW

[crystal forum]

dont ignore my DM's player

[opaque coyote]

Completely unrelated to trepang2.

Trepang2 was meant to just be a working title but it stuck for some reason

[lament shoal]

Mb my discord notifs are off like 24/7

I'll look at them rn

[crystal forum]

why is he so good at editing

[sour hornet]

I reached a WN8 of ~2100 on World of Tanks during my unemployed days

for comparison

winning only like 55% of the games i played despite tryharding erodes you on a mental level

[crystal forum]

this is why you make best boy material emmesh

[sour hornet]

all ot cost was my sanity

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[celest cedar]

the soundtrack man