40k-lore-chat

[tough haven]

as it likely contradicts what I already have on him

The skateboarding stuff might get cut if I do this, as leaping from a comet is already got some tonal dissonance

[rose thorn]

Friend wants me to get trench crusade stuff, I actually don’t like trench crusade too much but I like the iron wall so I’ll probably just get that. I think I’ll give the naked eagle top surgery and make it a trans masc harpie lol

People on Twitter also complain about them for some reason so that’s more motivation to get them

[outer wave]

People complain about the Iron Wall Sultanate?

[rose thorn]

Yeah

They say they are too much like good guys, they don’t fit ‘asthetically’ and ‘oh yeha the people they are based off didn’t actually matter so they shouldn’t be included’ and racism

[outer wave]

Is it due to balance on the tabletop or is it because of t--OH COME ON

I WAS GIVING THEM A CHANCE

[rose thorn]

From what I heard trench crusade balance is non existent

[outer wave]

All I know is that anything can kill anybody which is kinda funny

Still though, bruh, I think they work really well into the aesthetics of Trench Crusade tbh

[rose thorn]

They are the only faction that actually stands out next to the uh, gun guys

[outer wave]

New Antioch and Trench Pilgrims? Agreed

[rose thorn]

Antioch them and iron wall are the only factions I recognize

The other ones all blend in together

[outer wave]

I quite like Black Grail and Heretics

Oh and Seven Headed Court

[rose thorn]

Black grail I onlu recognize because of the mosquito dogs

I literally can’t tell anyone else apart

[outer wave]

I could see the case for Heretics and Seven Headed Court tbh

Its just "Bad evil people" and "Bad evil demons"

Black Grail are mostly recognizable IMO, minus maybe one or two units

[rose thorn]

Oh this guy is neat, who is he?

[outer wave]

I believe she(?)'s part of the Prussian portion of New Antioch but I forgot

[rose thorn]

Oh fun

[outer wave]

Yeah I believe the sword is supposed to be a tank buster sword essentially

[rose thorn]

I don’t like heretic legion but thats mainly because I see people paint them like Nazis

And they have 1 good model total

[outer wave]

Painting heretics as nazis
THEY'RE NOT EVEN TRYI--

I think they look cool aesthetically, but yeah that would turn off anyone seeing that shit

[rose thorn]

Lmao

And I literally couldn’t point out 7 heads if you put them in a mugshot line up

[outer wave]

The Hunger is pretty neato and Temple of Metamorphosis

[rose thorn]

I don’t know any of those words

[outer wave]

The Hunger is basically dog/canine themed and based around literal gluttony in terms of food and animalistic wants

Temple of Metamorphosis is people turning to bug-things

[rose thorn]

You know meme that’s like ‘what I was expecting vs what I got’ I was expecting weird war for world war 1 and I got necromunda with less factions I like so I never really bothered looking into it at all

[arctic talon]

ngl

I do not like blood tokens

lol

I hate blood tokens

the campaign rules for Trench Crusade, Immaculate

the actual moment to moment combat rules make me want to tear my fucking nails out

[outer wave]

That bad, huh?

[arctic talon]

Okay consider this

blood tokens allow you to make someones dice roll worse

by 1

[rose thorn]

Yeah that’s what I heard rules wise

[arctic talon]

anytime you want

you can stack

[outer wave]

OH

[arctic talon]

blood tokens

[outer wave]

OH

Oh that sucks

[arctic talon]

see this, the humble azeb, he belives in allah and has a musket

on the other hand

the Warwolf

a giant hell constructed abomination

The Azeb can one shot the warwolf

Thank you blood tokens

the Warwolf also costs 10x more btw

[outer wave]

Okay tbf they did advertise the game as "Anything can kill anyone"

[arctic talon]

they did

but its to a comical degree

an azeb without alchemical bullets with a musket

should not be able to one shot a warwolf

if you had to shell out for napalm/acid/explosive alchemical bullets on the azeb

[rose thorn]

What’s funny is I saw an argument online like “successful games do lore first and rules second” and used TC as a prime example as lore first rules second

[arctic talon]

then I'd think it would be more fun

because rn taking anything big isn't great

because blood tokens inherently make them awful

because you can just point and go go my blood tokens

[rose thorn]

And I’ve heard nothing positive about gameplay besides ids kinda funny

[arctic talon]

and then the massive investment instantly dies lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Okay unironically

the core rules aren't bad

they're good

aside from blood tokens

however blood tokens are a core mechanic

so this is like me saying the core rules are great if you ignore 1/8th of the rules

[outer wave]

What if blood tokens only went to a max of 1 per unit?

[arctic talon]

It would be much better

[rose thorn]

Also no one at any lgs I go to plays the game

[arctic talon]

tbh

the game sucks as a pickup game

imo

[rose thorn]

But that’s because we aren’t really a 3d print society

[arctic talon]

you need some form of longterm thing lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

honestly

the best part of trench crusade

is its mini agnostic

you can use whatever tf you want

[rose thorn]

Agnostic?

Like necromunda

?

[arctic talon]

No

as in you don't need to use like the actual things

and there's a bunch of things not represented with prints

there's offical prints yeah

[rose thorn]

OH

[arctic talon]

but you can also use like, your half melted WW1 bolt action dudes

lol

or your 40k minis

[rose thorn]

SOREY KY BRAIN USED THR WRONF DEFINITION LMAO

[arctic talon]

LOL

[rose thorn]

Yeah agnostic games are great, it’s the main reason I wana try lost psalm

It looks really fun I read through the rules

[arctic talon]

also btw @outer wave if you overspend blood tokens

you don't lose them

so if you overkill something and the blood token roll doesn't get used

you don't lose the token

[outer wave]

OH THATS WORSE

[arctic talon]

TLDR you always just spend a token lol

[outer wave]

OH THATS SO MUCH WORSE

I didnt even consider that

[rose thorn]

Huh?

[arctic talon]

Tokens can be used to reduce dice rolls(which is fine) make your dice rolls better(which is fine)

(boost and reduce damage) BAD BAD BAD

[rose thorn]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[outer wave]

It wouldnt be bad to balance it by making it risky to use all your blood tokens on a single target

[arctic talon]

Yeah

If you lost it after spending them

I'd get it

anyways it kind of sucks my favorite way of playing Iron Sultanate is like

toxic as fuck due to how blood tokens work lol

Like, I enjoy using Azebs and alchemists

[rose thorn]

Oh yeha iron sultanate is the only faction I like asthetcially

[arctic talon]

and avoiding the bigger more elite units

however due to how blood tokens work

[rose thorn]

I was gonna just give the eagle top surgery so I can use the model without feeling like scum

[arctic talon]

I look like a jackass who wants to farm blood tokens off my Azebs imploding and then having my azebs load up alchemical rounds

and have some heretic knight instantly immolate

[outer wave]

I think maybe a good way to balance this out while being somewhat dynamic is:
1.) Keep it to a max of 1 stack of blood tokens to trooper level units, while bigger units can have more stacked on them
2.) Overstacking has a risk of losing all your tokens if you overkill the target

[arctic talon]

I agree

good choices

anyways Iron Sultanate on top

[arctic talon]

I do not like the eagle harpy thing with its tits out

it scares me

[rose thorn]

Me too

[arctic talon]

I'm not even prude its just creepy

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[outer wave]

No wonder people hate them as per Mags on twitter

[rose thorn]

The naked women I also hate it’s so bleh

[arctic talon]

Like its not creepy in a sexual way

its just creepy in a creepy way

for the Iron sultanate stuff

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

for the Trench Pilgram stuff its meant to be hot and sexy

lol

which is another thing but whatever

[outer wave]

I do think its a bit much with the naked women tbh (Berserker, Nun, uhh forgot the other unit but yeah)

[arctic talon]

I don't like trench pilgrams

[rose thorn]

It’s still weird since they are like mad flagellants and stuff

[arctic talon]

Yeah

they're too

clean

[rose thorn]

Neither do I

[arctic talon]

the basic like female and male trench pilgrams sare like fine

[outer wave]

Maybe if they looked monstrous it'd work?

[arctic talon]

imo they just need to look more messed up from injuries

they're insane people

[rose thorn]

I think if it wasn’t due to Nazi heretic legion and seven heads being impossible to recognize

Trench pilgrims would be my least gw rouye

[arctic talon]

LOL

Iron Sultanate are honestly like

the very creepy faction imo

[outer wave]

I honestly do find Trench Pilgrims to be kinda

Whatever

[arctic talon]

The poster child alchemist scares me lol

Something about the mask she has

[outer wave]

I love her lil funny minion

[rose thorn]

They are sick they are a few asthetic people often over look

[arctic talon]

the little haemonculi

fun fact

if you fuck it up

it'll burrow into your chest

kill you

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

and puppet your fleshy mangled corpse

and then the other alchemest apprentances have to hunt down the haemonculi

and burn it

usually someone in every class fucks up

[rose thorn]

They are like alchemist Middle East/Byzantine empire guys and isn’t a ragingly racist stereotype

[arctic talon]

So

[rose thorn]

It’s very cool

[arctic talon]

so they need to have

[rose thorn]

Lmao why?

Is it like man eating lions

[arctic talon]

because defective ones are filled with hate and can't die as they regenerate

[rose thorn]

Ah

[arctic talon]

burning it is necessary to destroy the defective haemonculi

[rose thorn]

Lmao

Iron wall being the only faction I’ve ever seen people complain about also helps with why I like them

[fossil current]

It is said that one catachan is equal to 10 guardsmen of another chapter.

How many catachans is a space marine?

[arctic talon]

about what lol

They're like

fine

[rose thorn]

^

[rose thorn]

10

Or 100

Depends if you ask a catachan or a space marine

[fossil current]

Do you think 10 catachans would kill 1 space marine? The marine is unnamed, wearing a helmet, no particular chapter

[outer wave]

3 normal guardsmen can take down a space marine

So I dont think you necessarily need 10 catachans

[rose thorn]

Oh yeha of corse, 10 catachan or 10 guardsmen’s in general have a solid 80% chance at least to kill a space marine

[fossil current]

So by that math, 1 catachan can kill 3.3 marines by him or herself.

[arctic talon]

new antioch are also like good guys ????? aside from the meta christ stuff

iron sultanate does some fucked stuff as well

[rose thorn]

… if you quote that book I guess? Where the catachan makes a bomb vest

[arctic talon]

LOL

[rose thorn]

yah but they are white so people don’t complain

[arctic talon]

also ngl the fucking like

Lions are fucked

the big ones

the ones that can think

and may or may not be made out of people

[fossil current]

Lemme crunch the numbers here

[arctic talon]

the alchemists say they're not but I don't fucking belive them

[rose thorn]

But 1 catachan on a good day can take out a space marine an survive if the space marine if the catachan has all the advantages lol

[fossil current]

The thousand sons chapter would be completely wiped out by a mere 300 catachans

[rose thorn]

Chaos marines are a different story

Chaos marines are like 2-3 times stronger than a space marine

[arctic talon]

Thousand sons aren't 1000 marines

btw

lol

[fossil current]

I choose to ignore all arguments or facts that reject my current outrageous statement

[rose thorn]

If they are all suicide bombers probably ?

And are all in one cramp room

[arctic talon]

but all the god aligned factions in trench crusade got something a little fucked up about them

tbh

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/2g2dMyClqkc?si=KQbO0Jcv4Skwo51m

[outer wave]

They also typically have much more experience than the average space marine

[queen laurel]

dude

[fossil current]

Magnus the red? More like magnus the dead. Am I right guys?

[queen laurel]

If a giant mutant abomination is speaking to me at that tone I may as well just fold that spot

[arctic talon]

not like hell

but like

they've gotten up to some questionable stuff

[languid meadow]

A lot of people in the holy nations live like a hiver (in terms of working)

[fossil current]

But they don’t have any like primaris, right?

[languid meadow]

like all day at munitions factories or farms

[rose thorn]

I mena yeah but primaris aren’t actually stronger or anything

[queen laurel]

Yes but mutations and experience make up for it

[outer wave]

He has a surprisingly gentle tone for being a giant man made fleshy lion

[rose thorn]

Primaris just has better loot

And are less likely to have space cancer

[languid meadow]

the lions are genuinely philosophical at least the wall guards

they actually debate whether or not they will go to heaven

since they dont have souls

[outer wave]

Id like to be their friends

They seem cool

[languid meadow]

people like to think they help teach new alchemists but talking to them and imparting wisdom on them

which I like

[fossil current]

But like, if you ever played space marine 2… it’s like no competition

[rose thorn]

This is fucking sick

I didn’t know they still were Islamic

That’s really really awesome

I like it alot

[sour hornet]

Can't you just like shoot a catachan though, all memes aside? They're made of literally just flesh and bone.

[fossil current]

Yes. A space marine doesn’t even need to shoot them, they could walk through humans in the games. I just ignore those facts to justify plague marines in darktide

[rose thorn]

Idk why I suspected they would have said they werent Islamic anymore and would be some Christian thing

[queen laurel]

well primaris are bigger and physically stronger than first born marines but

The first born had more experience

[rose thorn]

… are they?? I heard they were just taller

Also 40k lore is 40k lore

[fossil current]

Nope, better armor, stronger, faster, keener senses. They have little to no draw backs. Some even used to be firstborn so the experience thing might not be a factor

[queen laurel]

basically that yeah

[rose thorn]

They take a compound explosive hidden in my coat the same so I don’t notice anything different

(Gsc joke)

[fossil current]

If we consider the game’s canon (which the lore does) a primaris can just pull the thousand sons apart by hand, even in terminus armor.

[rose thorn]

The games events are canon but the gameplay isn’t lol

[rose thorn]

Even in space marine one

[rose thorn]

Neat

[dapper gyro]

If the gameplay is cannon, then the half of a company of dead marines shouldn't exist.

[fossil current]

It is however canon that one ultramarine killed the demon population of a planet

[rose thorn]

Gameplay breaks canon a lot even back in sm 1

[fossil current]

They can probably wrestle helmets off heads

[rose thorn]

No?

[fossil current]

Bolt gun is fully canon

[dapper gyro]

That number of tyrannid warriors and lictors in game would wipe the floor with the marines faces.

[rose thorn]

The lore is he ran across the planet to deliver something

He doenst find a storm bolter behind a painting lol

[fossil current]

And yet!

[rose thorn]

We need novelizations of video games like we do for movies

It would be so funny

[fossil current]

He got himself a storm bolter and that painting be broke!

[dapper gyro]

Boltgun? That's what the marines wanker on mushroom feels like.

[fossil current]

Bolt gun is fully canon to make space marine 2 canon, to make the astartes short on amazon prime canon. It’s a real rabbit hole

[rose thorn]

it’s not fully canon the events are canon but not the gameplay

[dapper gyro]

Brother is not killing multiple big ass chaos champions. It is just there for gameplay.

[rose thorn]

Also I thought specifically the shorts were not canon

On the uhh

Warcom post

I might be wrong

[dapper gyro]

Canon marines carry like 100 bolt rounds on them, good luck doing any actual damage.

[rose thorn]

At most the vidoegames are in lore propaganda

[dapper gyro]

Like 4 darkide rejects kill 5000 dudes in 30 minutes... Totally canon.

[rose thorn]

Yeha lmao

[dapper gyro]

Eat plasma to the face and walk off...

[rose thorn]

Can’t believe csgo made my irl ak 47 do less damage

[dapper gyro]

You are telling me that plasma is just water balloons next?

[fossil current]

Space marine 1 must be canon because bolt gun references captain Titus

Bolt gun must be canon to become space marine 2 has the relic he retrieves.

And space marine 2 has to be canon… so that Titus can have a funny hat in the Amazon short

[rose thorn]

The games events are canon, the cutscenes and shit

The story

But the RATATATTATATATAT 26x COMBO BOOM BOOM

Isn’t actually canon

[fossil current]

I don’t see how the gameplay can’t be canon too. I would totally kill a hive Tyrant if I had power armor and a knife

Perfectly reasonable expectations for 3 marines

[rose thorn]

Rage bait(?)

[dapper gyro]

Yeah, a monster in the book that needs a full company to kill with heavy casualty... Right right.

[fossil current]

Yea, lock in

Keep in mind, in that same game like 7 marines die to 1 lictor

[rose thorn]

Ah

[fossil current]

Also a helldrake

And that one bug that digs

Easy wins for a team of 3 marines

[outer wave]

God if there is anything I will talk down into saying is not canon, its that stupid Heldrake fight

Everytime I see it, it just looks so dumb

[rose thorn]

Gw wants to sell heldrakes so bad

They put them in every chaos army lol

And refuses to give them good stats

[outer wave]

Make subspecies of Heldrake idk

[fossil current]

They just needed to do a children’s puzzle to summon holy light to weaken the drake enough to bolter it to death. Super legit lore friendly stuff.

[outer wave]

Make more types of daemon engines

[outer wave]

GOD I HATE IT

I dont even play the game or even own it

I just hate that fight

[fossil current]

Remember how they don’t shoot a demon host because that’s clearly an immortal creature they can’t kill by shooting

It would be embarrassing if there was another video game where regular human beings with las guns and rocks could kill a demon host.

[rose thorn]

Make it do anything

[outer wave]

I can accept that more as gameplay shenanigans as alot of the ways to dispose of them is just knocking them off a cliff or closing a door on them

Heldrake is just insulting

[rose thorn]

Rhinos are better than heldrakes in every way

[outer wave]

Helrhino

[rose thorn]

lol

[outer wave]

Rhino that looks like an actual rhino

[fossil current]

Oh wait until I tell you about rogue trader

[outer wave]

Yes I know you can murder fuck the bosses in that game with certain builds

[fossil current]

Where regular humans easily kill ||A necron god||

[outer wave]

Yes and it doesnt take away from the fact that the heldrake fight still sucks

[fossil current]

No, I 100% agree.

I’m just saying video games are fucking awesome

[outer wave]

Fair

They are pretty freaking cool

[fossil current]

Shoutout to the upcoming dark heresy game where a low ranking inquisition Acolyte will fight the night lords

[glossy sonnet]

Heldrakes are actually super awesome

[glossy sonnet]

So hyped for that

[fossil current]

Do you think Rannick will be playable? If not I’m making rannick anyway

[glossy sonnet]

No

[outer wave]

Rannick 2

[fossil current]

Rannick 2, it’s a low intelligence, stub revolver build

Actually dark heresy is why I’m interested in the catachans, one of the companions is a guard of the famous death world and we will actually get to see catachan vs space marine

[glossy sonnet]

Im wondering who our space marine companion will be this time around

[sacred ginkgo]

Hopefully there won't be one

[glossy sonnet]

I saw a leak stating there was one

[sacred ginkgo]

Or it'll be some random ass no name chapter that only exists for this game so it's actually semi interesting

[fossil current]

I’m hoping for a blood raven

[glossy sonnet]

That would be preferable, I think

[sacred ginkgo]

Silliest option is loyalist night lord

[glossy sonnet]

Hell no

[fossil current]

Well acthually in rogue trader; the previous game… we got a space wolf of the blackmanes who is separated from his pack

[sacred ginkgo]

I know

[fossil current]

It’s probably going to be someone in a similar situation or maybe a deathwatch member! Since you are apart of the inquisition. Why wouldn’t a watch marine be available?

[sacred ginkgo]

Busy

Or they just don't feel like it

[glossy sonnet]

Deathwatch is probable but I still wonder what chapter they would be from

[fossil current]

Hoping for blood ravens! Or an iron warrior!

[glossy sonnet]

Iron warrior is definitely not joining us

[fossil current]

OO! What if it’s a blood angel and his arc is about trying really hard not to see Horus?

[glossy sonnet]

That could be interesting

Reminds me of Idira from Rogue Trader and having to consider if keeping her around is worth the danger of her getting everyone killed

I thought that was a fun dynamic

[sacred ginkgo]

Its always worth it

[queen laurel]

Does every single warhammer game just has to have a marine now like no offense it's just that like

They are always in every game we need more game where they're like just not around

[sacred ginkgo]

She's the best support caster and the daemons she can summon aren't a threat outside of like
Early act 1

[queen laurel]

it seems that our big guy companion is gonna be the ogryn anyway

[glossy sonnet]

Unfortunately space marines are the posterboys and sell the best so they have to crammed in somewhere

[sacred ginkgo]

And if they are you just reload

[glossy sonnet]

I would prefer if they werent

[fossil current]

Ok TO BE FAIR marines play a tiny part of rogue trader and the night lords are actually the antagonists in this next game

[glossy sonnet]

I like when chaos marines are in games, but I have a little fatigue from loyalists

I like when the average joe gets to be badass

[queen laurel]

yeah but like we also had a companion in RT that is a marine

i don't mind who ulfar was cool but

a second CRPG from owlcat with a marine companion again

[dapper gyro]

Generic

[sacred ginkgo]

I like that ulfar is excessively mid as a combatant

[glossy sonnet]

I thought he was fun

[queen laurel]

character wise yeah gameplay

[sacred ginkgo]

I have my perceptions of him tainted by his state at launch

Where he was an active waste of a slot

[queen laurel]

my god he was something

[sacred ginkgo]

And even now he's still not great

[queen laurel]

He was basically a brick wall that doesn't know what he wants to do

do you want to be a wall that shoots or do you want to be a close range wall

[sacred ginkgo]

A dime a dozen custom character can run him through the ground

[fossil current]

I know, I talked about that before but his involvement is totally optional and only starts in the second half of the game

[dapper gyro]

Imperial fist intensive

[sacred ginkgo]

And his build options are incredibly limited because he gets a single digit number of weapons and literally 2 armors

[fossil current]

Much of owl cat’s games are in fact humans being badasses

[queen laurel]

and if you want a ranged monster or a melee monster just pick these two

[sacred ginkgo]

I just use my rt now

They can be better than any character can hope to

[glossy sonnet]

Abelard, cave this guys head in

[sacred ginkgo]

My first run definitely starred Argenta as the main character though

This was around launch when the Wildfire bug and old officer existed

[queen laurel]

her bolter builds are busted

[sacred ginkgo]

So she was just insane

[glossy sonnet]

I used Argenta a ton at the start and then benched her for most of the rest of the game

[fossil current]

Abelard, fetch my bolter!

[shadow plover]

Ulfar was a better Argenta on my run, until they both left

[glossy sonnet]

Heinrix and Pasqal never left my team once

[sacred ginkgo]

Heinrix feels like an identity crisis

Warrior start but two support disciplines

[fossil current]

My most recent run I decided to play RT exactly like darktide. Warrior, shield, shock baton, arbitrator, shot pistol

[glossy sonnet]

I just built him as a pyromancer and he demolished everything

[glossy sonnet]

I was planning to do that until I saw the reviews for the dlc and held off on buying it

[sacred ginkgo]

Last time I played was my rt as heretical pyromancer with bladedancer and executioner

I was functionally indestructible and could 1 turn as long as I had reach

[glossy sonnet]

I am super excited for the next upcoming dlc

[sacred ginkgo]

I killed The Bird in a single turn

I also had better skills than Jae

[glossy sonnet]

I really did not care for Jae

[fossil current]

I like the DLCs, I have no complaints. My darktide type build was a great time too

[sacred ginkgo]

Jae is an incredible skill monkey so I keep her around

Also an officer which is an extremely reliable pick

"Not useful in combat? Give all your actions to the MC and watch them blend harder"

[fossil current]

I also played a firstborn and recently started my catachan build but I think I’ll wait until the next dlc drop

[shadow plover]

I did that with Idira alone in her single activation

[sacred ginkgo]

I always build her as a support because of her starter disciplines and turn priority late game

[shadow plover]

if you mean the Act 4 bird

[sacred ginkgo]

Having your buff caster always act first is certainly somrthing

[shadow plover]

she started as support but she grew into a beatstick during act 3

and she still supports

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh and she gets her hard cc buttons

Shriek is just busted

"Stun that general direction"

[shadow plover]

heroic act lightning is also very very potent once you have a few talents

you can wipe an entire room with it

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-bingus-my-beloved-bingus-gif-19575226

I want this gif but with Idira instead

[sacred ginkgo]

Idira haters just admit they don't know what they're doing

[shadow plover]

very real

or they larp as turbo dogmatic cringe boys

(killed her)

[sacred ginkgo]

I'll probably do full send dogmatic next time

Though I am keeping her

[shadow plover]

The real missed opportunity is that you can't romance her

literally the most interesting character 😔

[sacred ginkgo]

So sad chaos is underbaked

You get to irreparably destroy her as a person and it gets brought up once outside the end slides

[shadow plover]

very true

I just got to that part and I had an inkling it will be barely brought up later

or "just" I'm a few planets into act 5

also the secret heretic companion is very bare bones

doesn't even have voice lines

[sacred ginkgo]

I stopped at act 5 for my heretical run

[queen laurel]

she is honestly very powerful if you know what you are doing yeah

[arctic talon]

All the secret companions are super barebones

Tbf

[sacred ginkgo]

Sludging through a bunch of pre decided combats just for the end slides isn't worth it

[arctic talon]

Also heretic has 2 secret companions

lol

It has ||uralon and caligos||

[sacred ginkgo]

All fights are exactly the same when you nuke the room the same way every time

[arctic talon]

But you get ||caligos|| so late his unique feature doesn’t matter

[shadow plover]

figured as much, though haven't gotten to the second one yet

[shadow plover]

It's my first run so I'll manage through I feel

[sacred ginkgo]

Heretical first run is certainly a choice

[shadow plover]

I wanted to role play as an iconoclast who gets slowly more corrupt by temptation but the way the game is built doesn't really allow for that

so I just started to do slightly more heretical options gradually

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah you just full send or you miss the fun dialog

No half measures

[shadow plover]

I think I managed to not miss anything important / fun

afaik on release act 2 was very low on options to increase the heretic rank if you didn't take everything but it was patched to be a lot more easier

[sacred ginkgo]

I love converting the entire bar against chorda by mashing the alignment button

And like

Flipping people's alignment and beliefs in 2 lines

[shadow plover]

[queen laurel]

Honestly my one more quip on the game this one is a personal one is that it feels a bit sluggish at times
Like certain cutscenes seems drag on for too long, combat can feel incredibly slow, and have no real crunch at times but that's just kind of how owlcat builds crpgs

[sacred ginkgo]

You should be a heretic NOW

Converting the sectors preacher in 3 lines is certainly something

[arctic talon]

you can also flip Chorda lmao

[shadow plover]

if you've done heretic options earlier it kinda prefaces the options for each of the faction leaders to work a bit better

[sacred ginkgo]

If you're an idiot (an iconoclast)

I did do that in my run

[arctic talon]

tbh she's less evil then the priest

LOL

but she's still evil as fuck

[queen laurel]

How the average imperial describes being a good person

[sacred ginkgo]

Its funny that they make the encounter happen anyway though

[arctic talon]

I flip a coin

to pick either or

lol

[shadow plover]

I did enjoy that story arc on footfall

[arctic talon]

hopefully Dark heresy

will be more fluid

They did say they were taking the lessons learned from Rogue Trader

[sacred ginkgo]

Or have actually impactful evil options if they include them

[shadow plover]

let it be so

[arctic talon]

none of the choices are really impactful

lol

its not a huge jump between each

[sacred ginkgo]

I am literally selling my soul to my sword

[arctic talon]

for like the Icon/Dog/Heretic

[sacred ginkgo]

Why are we doing the assault on eufrates the exact same

Just ambush the everyone in orbit and be done with it

[arctic talon]

yeah Eufrates is dumb

[shadow plover]

the most impactful heretical option you can make is making it so that you won't get the fifth colony and miss out on a quite a bit stuff because of it

[sour hornet]

I agree. Toybox tinkering is required, but those on consoles are screwed.

[sour hornet]

I want heresy that isnt so mask off early on.

[shadow plover]

at that point when I realised how much I would miss because of it, I installed toybox before ending act 4 to get the missing colony building without the fifth colony

[sour hornet]

Like, give me more options to fry people alive

instead of being like I HATE THE IMPERIUM halfway through act 2

[queen laurel]

heretic path does make you into a powerful battle monster

so at least that has that going for it

[sacred ginkgo]

Psychic blender

[shadow plover]

I guess but I mostly joked about that one, it does hinder your progress quite a bit

which sucks

[sacred ginkgo]

Set yourself on fire then ballerina your way through the encounter

[queen laurel]

But yeah of course dogmatic psyker

Like being a religious wizard apparently makes you powerful who would have known

[sacred ginkgo]

Dogmatic psykers doubling their psy rating with one helmet

[queen laurel]

The average dogmatic psyker

[shadow plover]

I have a very suboptimal psyker rt, started as an operative sniper buff psyker so my WS is shit so I kinda only rely on ranged pyromancy psychic abilities at the moment, even if I have a very good force sword and burning blood and whatever else

[sacred ginkgo]

They should make you fight all the party members that leave you in heretical

[sour hornet]

I'd love to kill Argenta.

[sacred ginkgo]

Have them break into your quarters and do the slow reinforced battle that sometimes happens

Or just solo them

[shadow plover]

yeah but that would require more thought put into the heretical run

[sour hornet]

Unfortunately

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[sacred ginkgo]

Can I cut ulfar in half

Pretty please

Or heinrix

[raven stone]

I mean

I thought you get to fight them in heretical endgame (they join Calcazar)

[raven stone]

Also Dark Heresy Alpha coming REAL soon

[crisp heath]

Ogryn companion:)

[plush mason]

yeah i plan to buy access next month

only 80 USD for it which is lower than you expect

[spring cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1258683963589787689/1428221281546797146/RDT_20251013_1026574859411336668109925.jpg?ex=68f1b638&is=68f064b8&hm=a2b166b3f701a65ec99663086d18b901637f135a5829a24a60ba151e0d5e0fdf&=&format=webp&width=425&height=753

[crystal forum]

pasta or noodles

[storm jungle]

Pasta

[rocky gale]

Yes

[raven stone]

Yes

[rocky gale]

Both

[crystal forum]

no you have to choose

[celest dome]

What is the difference ? Wheat or Rice flour ?

I'd pick Pasta though

Don't use Noodles quite as much

[queen laurel]

both

[vagrant fox]

get some bean sprouts

[celest dome]

Bread or pasta/noodle

[hallow saddle]

why do Americans call pasta noodles

that's always annoying in Warhammer 40,000 lore

[rose thorn]

pasta is specifically a term used for italian dishes otherwise its noodles

also not all noodels are even like pasta stuff

do you call ramen a pasta?

[storm jungle]

in turkey "pasta" is literally "cake" lmao

[hallow saddle]

lmao

[storm jungle]

I actually wonder why, let me google

[rose thorn]

look at me in the eyes and call any of these pasta

[celest dome]

But are all Pasta noodles ?

[rose thorn]

i think so

[storm jungle]

The word "cake" comes from the Italian word "pastry," which itself derives from Latin. Historically, primitive versions appeared in ancient Greece and Rome as pastries with added honey and cheese. Modern pastry developed in Italy during the Renaissance and, particularly in 18th-century France, with the addition of creams and various decorations.

Hmmm

[celest dome]

Gnochis, lasagna...

[hallow saddle]

pasta is made from durum wheat

gnocci is made from potato?

I think

[celest dome]

Gnocci are still pastas, i think

[hallow saddle]

yeah probably counts fine

[rose thorn]

its like Champaign and sparkling wine

it just depends if its italian or not

[queen laurel]

So what's the Turkish word for noodles then

[hallow saddle]

if I was Italian I'd wave my arms around when Americans call pasta noodles

[storm jungle]

erişte

[rose thorn]

let me ask my italian friend if he consideres spaghettios a pasta

[vagrant fox]

why not nüdel

[celest dome]

I know someone who consider them to be blasphemy

[storm jungle]

because we arent scandinavian

[misty vector]

what would it be besides pasta

[hallow saddle]

I should think spaghettios are meant to be made from pasta but they probably aren't made from the right wheat

[rose thorn]

so are gnocci a noodle?

[hallow saddle]

but also deffo pasta anyway cause they're not noodles

[rose thorn]

when i google it it just siad its contexual term for italian dishes

[hallow saddle]

do they have pasta in Warhammer 40,ppp lore

40,000

[celest dome]

Noodles seem to be long continous unleavened dough based.
Spagheti would be Noodles and pasta.
Gnochi would be pasta but not noodles

[storm jungle]

Yeah they do

they are called "carb-strands"

amazing name imo

lmao

[hallow saddle]

lol!

nice

[celest dome]

And the Tau have green ones too

[rose thorn]

yeah its barely edible last i heard

not hte tau one

the imperium one

[storm jungle]

Yeah the imperium foodstuff is like

literally made from slop lol

or synthetic

or corpses 💀

[rose thorn]

the most tastey thing in 40k that wasnt food for nobles I heard of were ash oysters

[storm jungle]

tbh in that case its indiluted foodstuff from an animal

[rose thorn]

theeres some species of oyster in necromunda that lves in some burnt down district of necromunda

that are edibel

[misty vector]

the imperium would love corn syrup

[rose thorn]

imagine adding corn syrup to yoru tea

[hallow saddle]

does durum look like a Turkish word

did Turks invent pasta????

[vagrant fox]

it's just a wheat variety

[hallow saddle]

nvm it's from Latin it seems

[misty vector]

pasta/noodles is probably one of those things that get created separately like bread and alcohol

[storm jungle]

The word "dürüm" is of Turkish origin, derived from the verb "dür-" and referring to actions such as "wrapping" or "folding." As a food, dürüm refers to a thin flatbread or flatbread wrapped with various ingredients. Therefore, the name of the food comes from the way it is prepared.

[raven stone]

Imperium food exists on two extremes.

Factory slop for everyone else
Or
Organic, stable DNA, unmutated pure Terran farm products for the elites

And nothing in the middle.

[crystal forum]

i dont respect the word noodle

it sounds modern and childish

[vagrant fox]

everything dutch derived does

brother get this shit the hell away from me why does it keep showing up

[crystal forum]

what does unify a debate even mean

[storm jungle]

Lmao is that the nazi salvage subreddit

[misty vector]

funny how when they say 'change my mind' or 'prove me wrong' theyre never actually open to discussion

[vagrant fox]

yes

[storm jungle]

god

i forgot if you can even block subreddits or not

let me see

[crystal forum]

speaking of which

[vagrant fox]

I keep telling it to not recommend it to me but it keeps reappearing

[storm jungle]

Peak. Thanks reddit.

[crystal forum]

i keep getting space king animation videos recommended to me on youtube no matter how many times i remove

[storm jungle]

you need to click on blocking the channel

[crystal forum]

i do

but youtube keep showing me more channels

[storm jungle]

oof

[rose thorn]

one of those is a space mairne the other isnt lmao

if redditors ever read a book

they would know that cutodies are not spave marines

[rocky gale]

But you can have both

[crystal forum]

they should know by reading just a rule book

[vagrant fox]

they don't do that they just look at memes

then circlejerk about the grimdark

[storm jungle]

idk guys

i find these weekly "hot topics" very enjoyable and not tiring at all

cant wait for the next "disaster that ruined the lore" crisis

its just a toy mini with dark skin

[crystal forum]

boycot GW by buying models from other 40k armies instead of custodes

that will show them

[vagrant fox]

yeah lets all buy a lot of eldar

[storm jungle]

Thats prob my favorite bit

"GW doesnt deserve this IP lets boycott them"

says the 1% who literally buys nothing or effects the IP in any way

[rocky gale]

Making every Drukhari item sell out will show them

Let's all work together to buy every piece of Drukhari they've got

[crystal forum]

fever dream

get out

[rocky gale]

If we all work together

I'll handle all the stock though

[crystal forum]

i'll go buy guard rn just to spite you

[rocky gale]

I'll keep them safe

[crystal forum]

no you wont

you'll touch them so much

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-charlie-gif-24490029

[vagrant fox]

part of me wants to, add something new to my few oldass minis I have left
But then again it's too expensive

[wintry cloud]

https://youtu.be/R73zBs8voKc?si=rhSSTFPrlCPpqX2_

The goat of all time

[storm jungle]

Jackcepticeye????

[crystal forum]

fuck you beat me to it

[wintry cloud]

Yeah he uploaded fulgrim on his instagram

Like a couple weeks ago

[storm jungle]

wait thats actually him?

i was meme-ing lol

[crystal forum]

oh wait it's actually him

why is he so old

[rocky gale]

People do that

[wintry cloud]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Have you not seen his face for like five years or something

actually scratch that you probably did not

[spring cairn]

literally

[crystal forum]

he looks 20 years older in 10 years

[storm jungle]

idgaf who he is dipshit

[crystal forum]

is that what ireland is like

[vagrant fox]

Curse of being Irish

[rocky gale]

Yea

[vagrant fox]

the housing troubles causes premature aging

[rocky gale]

It's the innate melancholy of the Irish does that to you

[spring cairn]

I thought it was the alcohol

[crystal forum]

speedrunning becoming a jolly old man

[spring cairn]

but I guess the housing troubles don't help

[crystal forum]

fun fact michael d higgins is just 30 years old

[rocky gale]

Oldest man in Ireland

[spring cairn]

no idea who that is but his name is D Higgings and that's cool

[crystal forum]

he's the irish president who looks like a lord of the rings character

[rocky gale]

President of Ireland

[spring cairn]

they even elected a leprechaun, how culturally appropriate

[crystal forum]

he's popular because the president in ireland is mostly just for show or smth

[queen laurel]

Oh my God it's doctor eggman

[rocky gale]

And he brings his dogs with him

[crystal forum]

so he just looks cute and writes poetry

[raven stone]

Imagine being in the timeline where Eggman is president of Ireland.

Oh wait :p.

[rocky gale]

He does some stuff but like the Taoiseach is the actual head of government

President is the head of state

[raven stone]

With no disrespect to the Irish language.

I swear some of the Anglicized spelling make certain terms look Mandarin in origin...

[rocky gale]

That happens when you speak the language in a different alphabet than you write it in

[crystal forum]

ireland managing to have a functional government while being next to the UK is the strangest phenomenon

[raven stone]

True

[spring cairn]

they share a border with the UK

for now...

[rocky gale]

If you want the dysfunctional government look at Northern Ireland

[crystal forum]

until northern ireland is rightfully retaken

[raven stone]

That Star Trek prediction of Irish reunification

[raven stone]

Pretty sure part of the fault is with London lol

[rocky gale]

Na it's all us

[crystal forum]

oh right larmoth is a northerner

[spring cairn]

interesting

[crystal forum]

wait do you get irish citizenship as a northern irish

[rocky gale]

Local unionists keep collapsing the government every time they don't get their way

[spring cairn]

would you like to be formally part of Ireland ?

[rocky gale]

Yea

[spring cairn]

how many people actually want reunification there

[rocky gale]

I am technically a British, Irish and northern Irish citizen

[rocky gale]

I don't mind

[crystal forum]

so do you have three passports

how does that work

[rocky gale]

It's inevitable but like so long as it works I'm fine with it

[spring cairn]

you beat me by 1 citizenship

gg

[rocky gale]

I can get two Irish and British

[crystal forum]

lmao

[rocky gale]

But the Irish passport is cheaper and better

[crystal forum]

which one

[rocky gale]

I've got Irish because it's cheaper and allows me to travel easier

[crystal forum]

which irish

you said two irish

[rocky gale]

There's only Irish

[raven stone]

Oddly enough I kind of understand, like how I am British/Hong Kong/ China(via Hong Kong) citizen

[Even though theoretically China doesn't recognize multiple citizenship but it is a law nobody bothers enforcing oddly.]

[rocky gale]

There's no Northern Irish passport

[crystal forum]

oh

[rocky gale]

Same as there's no Scottish passport

[crystal forum]

man scotland wanting to remain is so weird

i thought the scottish didnt even like the UK

[rocky gale]

Despite Scottish people technically being Scottish citizens as well as British

Depends

[raven stone]

Scotland's attitude to UK/England (amongst citizens) is all over the place

[vagrant fox]

Few of the Scots I've talked to particularly wanted independence , maybe less London centralization

[crystal forum]

yeah that's pretty much the problem right? the UK will only ever do things to benefit london at the detriment of everything else

[rocky gale]

Yeaa

[raven stone]

It's something even English cities suffer from

[crystal forum]

yeah

[spring cairn]

not london per say but they're very england focused

[raven stone]

No, really

London is London focused

[rocky gale]

North and south west England suffer a lot from it too

[plush mason]

so thats why London was the one eating all the other moving cities in that one movie

[crystal forum]

i just know everything outside london gets the scraps of whatever budget remains after london's expenses

[raven stone]

Because at some point some bright dumbasses decides the entire country can run on financial services alone

[vagrant fox]

I've a longterm friend from Manchester and he's shown how utterly poverty stricken a lot of England can be to the benefit of London

[spring cairn]

welp

[vagrant fox]

It's wild to see in a western European country

[spring cairn]

ig the uk's govt is just ass

but that's no news

[plush mason]

ofc it is

[raven stone]

It's very allegorical (and, compared to a novel, everyone LOL'ed at the cities rolling on straight lines) but yes, allegorical for how finance industry just swallow up everything.

[plush mason]

a well running government wouldnt be in a race to the bottom with America for one

[vagrant fox]

Tbh it's the same in Denmark, Copenhagen's winning out to the detriment of the rest of the country so I'm not particularly surprised

[rocky gale]

It's like a lot of Ireland's infrastructure was abandoned because it had existed solely to export resources out of Ireland and towards London

[raven stone]

Sadly part of the reason why right wing is on the rise.

The more legitimate part of their complaint - financial capitals swallowing up everything without care for the country.

[spring cairn]

perhaps they should burn London, again

[rocky gale]

Like they had to decide which were actually beneficial to us rather than there to make robbing us easier

[crystal forum]

that reminds me of how colonizer supporters would say that colonies build infrastructure in poor countries, ignoring the fact that the moment it's no longer profitable all that infrastructure is abandoned to rot

[raven stone]

Nowadays it's the financial equivalent, instead of physical resources

[spring cairn]

colonial infrastructure is almost always made to facilitate exporting back to the mainland

not to help any locals

[rocky gale]

Yea and unfortunately Ireland now kinda does the same with Dublin

[raven stone]

Hong Kong is a bit of an oddball exception - but only because the Brits never forayed into China massively

[crystal forum]

see this is why around the world rural people shift to populist right wing

nobody gives a shit about them

[raven stone]

Pretty much, there was an era of global financial industry growth that shoved those people aside at best

And made their areas even more impoverished at worse

[crystal forum]

it's been happening for almost a century now

since the rural exodus during the great depression

[raven stone]

Again, it is the more legitimate side of their grievances

[rocky gale]

The latest financial grant for my area wasn't to improve any of the issues or fix anything, it was to make the derelict buildings look nicer for the people driving past

[crystal forum]

but back during the great depression rural people shifted left wing

[rocky gale]

Love to see it

[crystal forum]

now they shift right wing

[raven stone]

The current shift to right is probably influenced by legacy of the Cold War

And, well

The nastier side of the equation (migration)

[crystal forum]

increase property value yeah

[raven stone]

And, paradoxically, make the property even more out of reach for the locals...

[crystal forum]

well that doesn't even come into the equation

you either already own property or you dont

[raven stone]

OK true, but I more mean it could be that redevelopment actually raises house prices, pricing locals out of purchasing

Assuming some don't have homes or houses to begin with

[crystal forum]

yeah i'm saying the people doing these changes don't care

[raven stone]

You are right to say existing owners will benefit

[crystal forum]

all the people making these decisions already own property

[raven stone]

Ah yes

In as much as I am very wary of right wing UK/English sentiments, I do acknowledge the legitimate elements of their grievances, which is mostly covered by the above

Ironically, Hong Kong itself experienced that in advance

Politics aside, another part of why HK people had beef with China was kind of the exact same pattern, played out in advance quietly a decade earlier

HK government, property developers and businesses just catering to Mainland Chinese Market far more than is healthy, causing lots of local HK people to lose out

(Roughly speaking)

[crystal forum]

also because china

which is understandable

[spring cairn]

nothing bad ever happened or is happening in China

all western propaganda

[mint tundra]

Get Ready for the Most SAVAGE Space Marine Chapters!
https://youtube.com/shorts/PsDpx-6ohkg?feature=share

[crystal forum]

it's so hard to get news about china that isnt heavily glazed or manufactured outrage

[raven stone]

The truth is somewhere in the middle of the narrative China gives, and the Western media.

It is never as rosy as CCP paints it...but it is also never as apocalyptic as Western Media describes it (for all of China's shortcomings)

[spring cairn]

sure

still horrible govt

[raven stone]

Eeyup

[spring cairn]

objectively

peices of shit

[raven stone]

As old men in power are want to be 😅

[crystal forum]

the whole world is just copying china's surveillance infrastructure now

and it really annoys me

[raven stone]

Just for different ends

It may sound cynical of me, but if people ever tell me there is no freedom of speech in the West, I might actually answer the following...

"In the West, I do not have freedom to criticise Israel or certain policies. In China, I do not have freedom to criticise the government. As a Chinese person, I know which freedom I am more willing to give up."

[spring cairn]

new TWW3 DLC trailer later today

goog

[outer wave]

Do they wanna be sending out more content at this point and time?

[spring cairn]

They were working on that well before the current events, and it's a dedicated team for the DLC's

was going to happen regardless

[outer wave]

Fair

[spring cairn]

I'm always happy to see how they make my favourite fantasy setting come to life

[prime seal]

where does he find the time to paint that well

damn

[wintry cloud]

@prime seal probably from up here

[rocky gale]

He is a YouTuber, he's probably got a lot of free time

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/BsEX51KP6U8?si=x0hltznLqHnmC0nI

[spring cairn]

merwyrm

you were waiting with the link ready

aa

i was about to

https://tenor.com/view/cobson-edit-gif-17725429570181052605

[rocky gale]

Juicy

When she touches her chin and tilts it up.....

😳

[spring cairn]

kinda don't like how the preyton looks

but i'll have to see it outside of the trailer

wasn't expecting curs'd ettins tho

[wintry cloud]

I need more warhmmer yuri

[languid meadow]

I didn't expect it either it's cool

more random creatures please

[spring cairn]

mourngul-likes

[celest dome]

@queen laurel Should I watch it 💀

[storm jungle]

its very gooner

do it

[languid meadow]

oh yeah dark heresy alpha got announced with a nebulous time frame

[queen laurel]

Do it

I dare you you coward

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[celest dome]

Are they putting the Preython as a Slaanesh unit ?

[queen laurel]

Yeah I think so

It was shown in the slannesh roster

[queen laurel]

Also question what the hell are those malformed looking giants that have two heads

[outer wave]

Immediately more cinematic than the last big DLC they had

[rose thorn]

Thank you warcom

[storm jungle]

very intense

[celest dome]

Ettin
Well Cursed one

[outer wave]

Also who is the chaos wizard dude in the trailer?

[celest dome]

Which one

[outer wave]

The guy that betrays everyone in the ritual and fuses them into some beast

[languid meadow]

Sayl

Sayl the Faithless

[outer wave]

I see I see

[celest dome]

Who isn't a Norscan

[queen laurel]

This thing looks like me when I go to the fridge

But on that last part you're telling me that the high elves got the giant creature The vampire Coast supposed to have instead of the vampire Coast

[outer wave]

Kurgan according to the wiki

[celest dome]

Yes, different tribe

Should have been a Warrior of Chaos

Bulgur you know I'm fucking right.

[queen laurel]

I'm not going to argue with you because you're probably right and you're stubborn as a dwarf

[outer wave]

Lmao

[languid meadow]

Yeah he's the overlord of the Dolgans which are not Norscans

they're from the steppes of Kislev

[celest dome]

More toward Cathay's Chaos Waste no ?

[queen laurel]

Though My question is like are high elves getting Merwyrms

Like genuinely because of the last shot aislin had that thing behind her

[languid meadow]

I don't know the HE character enough to know

[queen laurel]

Oh wait I just checked the wiki yep they are getting that

[languid meadow]

but I bet VCs will get them as an offhanded thing

[languid meadow]

I can only find them being located in Kislev on the lex at least

[queen laurel]

So they are getting these things first before vampire Coast

Which had an entire quest about getting amanar

[celest dome]

The one you see in the Vamp Coast trailer is a named one that is ginormous

Might be the Father of all Merwyrm

[languid meadow]

I mean I bet they'll get them as a hand me down like how beastmen got something for every god damn wh3 update besides chorfs

[celest dome]

Haven't kept up on those

[queen laurel]

Aislin can also call upon amanar

Bro the vampire Coast got robbed

[languid meadow]

I really hope they get a rework that involves it

[outer wave]

It does feel like some of this should've been given to vampire coast ngl

[languid meadow]

the final battle was so cool seeing it swim around the battlefield

[rocky gale]

Best part is it's wrong too

[queen laurel]

I hope to God because they are literally the first faction to interact with merwyrms

[celest dome]

Not the biggest problem I have with Vamp Coast

https://tenor.com/view/what-aaaaaa-bağırmak-çığlık-aaa-gif-19437672

[queen laurel]

Oh I know you probably have a very specific problem that is a very specific lore issue from a very specific book from somewhere

[wintry cloud]

Yes merwyrms are a high elf giant monster

Even in old world

[queen laurel]

It's just very funny to me they got it first

Instead of the vampire Coast which has an entire mechanic revolving around it

[wintry cloud]

I don’t write the rules sadly

But big fish likes pointy ears

[languid meadow]

Rework previews

[languid meadow]

the 15th rework to Norsca

[rocky gale]

Three of the pathfinders marked as "Not in cover" are in cover

[celest dome]

I didn't play HE, so I might miss remember the rules, but they got the Meewyrm from the Monstrum Arcanum, which probably mean that they were available for other races too

[languid meadow]

I mean im betting the 4 races that will get it are

[queen laurel]

I hope to God the vampire Coast can recruit them

[languid meadow]

HE
DE
Norsca
VC

[wintry cloud]

That would be cool, that faction is starving

[queen laurel]

Had an entire mechanic related to merwyrms

[wintry cloud]

Im a heavy chaos player. So getting two chaos aligned in one dlc is great

Now i just have to wait…

[languid meadow]

if VC doesn't get it someone will just mod it it since it would be super simple

[wintry cloud]

Archaon is going to have a BLAST

[queen laurel]

Yeah it would probably make like a recruitment mod that allows you to recruit

[celest dome]

Norsca just getting thrown dregs

[queen laurel]

Merwyrms

[languid meadow]

but DE and Norsca getting it is a given since they have lords dedicated to recruiting monsters

[rocky gale]

[rose thorn]

LMAO FR???

[rocky gale]

Yep

[rose thorn]

That’s amaizng

That means uh

Is this correct???

[storm jungle]

Death.

[storm jungle]

🏳️‍🌈

[rocky gale]

I think so yes

But yea like you see here, they have cover because this guy can't fully see these two

[spring cairn]

that guy got money from third parties on his first day as president

[crystal forum]

this guy got elected on fixing argentina's economy and i guess technically he's succeeding by putting it in debt to the US

[rocky gale]

Farage would no doubt do the same

[storm jungle]

"America First" huh

[rocky gale]

Hey Argentina is technically in America

[languid meadow]

not wrong

[crystal forum]

one of his campaign promises was replacing the argentinian currency with bitcoin or smth

[surreal nest]

Oh gee I wonder why the government was shut down

[crystal forum]

it amazes me how people will vote for this stuff around the world

[languid meadow]

desperate times will make people vote for anything

[celest dome]

Look at the average person, and realise that half the population is even dumber

[surreal nest]

America was not desperate in 2016 no excuses

[languid meadow]

no Americans are just stupid

[surreal nest]

Oh ok fair

[languid meadow]

I was talking about Argentina like before they voted Milo in they were already rock bottom

stupid idea but like

shit was bad

[crystal forum]

and it only got worse afaik

[languid meadow]

yeah it did

[crystal forum]

but you also have to keep in mind that if you compare argentina to what it was a few decades ago it's doing much better

before he was voted in i mean

[celest dome]

So basically Boomers are happy cause it is better than when they were young ?

[languid meadow]

I need to check but like +50% are below the poverty line in Argentina now

[crystal forum]

from what i remember argentina was more left leaning for a while which is why a lot of the economy was state owned

[spring cairn]

miley is like

the most obvious industry plant

[crystal forum]

and this guy came in promising to shake up the economy with radical ideas

mostly libertarian ideas

the classic "release the free market" strat

[spring cairn]

big banks want it to work so bad they pumped his govt full of money

[surreal nest]

If I was president I would make everybody play for honor

[rocky gale]

That's just cruel

[surreal nest]

I will be cruel

[spring cairn]

they're smelling that sweet unregulated market

[crystal forum]

it's just endlessly depressing how all the safeguards made to protect us during bad times also get removed when those bad times arrive

[rocky gale]

I'd make them play League, which is also cruel.

Everyone must play one hour of League a day

[crystal forum]

anyways my country is doing austerity now

80's all over again

[surreal nest]

This reminds me of that prison that forced its prisoners to grind WoW gold

[queen laurel]

If that's the case then i will do nothing but hack your account and force you to buy space marines

[lament shoal]

Could be worse. He could've said league of legends

Or valorant