40k-lore-chat

[queen laurel]

He would be bit sapient after that

[rose thorn]

anyone exciterd for space marine reveals tomorrow

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-honse-watching-rain-prowler-gif-11969727372424346296

They should rename it to Space Marine Monday tbh

[storm jungle]

We are getting another reveal? lmao

[arctic talon]

Unknown

lol

[remote wadi]

New chaos space marines when

When peterabo

[rocky gale]

Never

[remote wadi]

Nah all primarchs got back

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/perturabo-autism-autism-creature-warhammer-40k-warhammer-gif-17744557883323524299

[remote wadi]

And chaos mechicus are here

It only makes sense he is next

[storm jungle]

Chaos primarchs that arent god-alligne dare not getting models for a long time or anytime soon

[remote wadi]

But he will be when released

[celest dome]

Chaos Mechanicum doesn't have ties to Perturabo

[remote wadi]

The machine chaos god

Vashtor

[celest dome]

Vashtor? Not linked to either of, iirc

[remote wadi]

We got the chaos realm of machines

Why wouldn't vashtor be it's god

And peterabo his prince

[median star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395727180830478383/1422412020715880480/e993d191d03335fd09a1987db3f8d39a.gif

[remote wadi]

There's enought souls that belief in machines

[rocky gale]

Forget Vashtorr, we need Sota-Nul

[celest dome]

Well, the Mechanicum isn't subservient to Vashtor (Vashtor is trying to subvert them though)
And no, Perturabo isn't a Daemon Prince of Vashtor

[remote wadi]

Yet

[celest dome]

Your understanding of the lore is quite alien

[remote wadi]

I mean being a true deamon of chaos undivided wouldn't make sense permanently

[celest dome]

😊

[rocky gale]

That's why he had to earn it when everyone else just got given their special sauce

[celest dome]

He is not a Deamon of Chaos undivided...

[remote wadi]

I'm talking peterabo

[celest dome]

Daemon Prince I don't know about

Ok so Daemon Prince yes

But Undivided, not Vashtor

Not Machine Chaos

[vagrant fox]

Perturabo is a undivided daemon prince yea

[remote wadi]

Perturabo would fall for the machine god quite easily

Like literally look at the man

[celest dome]

Don't think we've ever had cases of Daemon Prince moving from one "faith" to another

[remote wadi]

He is half machine

[celest dome]

That's not how things work

[remote wadi]

Also chaos undivided when it comes to deamons tends to be a temporary state

[languid meadow]

I love the little gong slave they have

[remote wadi]

Why wouldn't that apply to deamon princes

Abbadon makes sense to be undivided since he is pretty much his own god

[misty vector]

You dont see a dwarf with a sword often

[remote wadi]

Not power wise but ideology

But peterabo is a logic above anything man

He would easily fall for the chaos machine side

[arctic talon]

Ironically both 40K and AoS have dwarfs with swords

[remote wadi]

Since they align in ideology

[arctic talon]

Whfb was just hammers and axes

[misty vector]

Ahhh true true

[remote wadi]

Also this isn't coming from an alien view this is theory based of the current

Since the current is incomplete

Space marines are well defined

Chaos marines arent

[sacred ginkgo]

Fantasy has at least one Dwarven sword

[arctic talon]

Chaos is very well defined

[arctic talon]

Yeah but you didn’t see it on generic infantry no?

[rocky gale]

Na chaos has no lore

[remote wadi]

Chaos undivided doesnt have a single ideology

[arctic talon]

I’m going to make you eat the chaos daemons codex smh

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah, because Kruber has it

[remote wadi]

We have abbadons,bilism, cypher self centerism

[arctic talon]

LOL

[rocky gale]

Tell me when they write one

[remote wadi]

Space marines are easy to define their different cultures and ideology

[celest dome]

I think I might just put Kimo in the ignore list...

[sacred ginkgo]

The blue enchanted brettsword skin says it's made by a dwarf for some reason or another

[celest dome]

Might be better for my mind

[remote wadi]

Chaos undivided they can all work toghter under the same leader and have totally different ideas

[celest dome]

The Grudgebringer is also a Dwarf made sword that is made for Dwarven use

[remote wadi]

Also going from undivided to mono god isn't uncommon in lore

[celest dome]

Mostly by faithful of the Dwarf god of Death

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh sick we're at 2 now

[remote wadi]

Not for deamons, not even for black legionaires

[arctic talon]

I’m not huge on dwarf lore in whfb

[celest dome]

All the swords that the Elector Counts uses are also Dwarven made

(but not to be used by Dwarfs)

[storm jungle]

Random update but i think im enjoying Phantom Liberty

[vagrant fox]

maybe I should replay it

[rocky gale]

Male V?

You wanted to romance Panam didn't you?

[celest dome]

Doesn't she say shit but the sub titles say prick ?

[storm jungle]

I think so lmao

[vagrant fox]

I've been sorely tempted because of this meme, for some reason

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[sacred ginkgo]

They probably had their line cut by the gun draw

[celest dome]

Oh and I have a pick of a Dwarf sword miniature

[storm jungle]

Ironically while i am going for the Nomad ending (since its the best one fight me) I dont really wanna romance Panam even tho shes the goat, i just cant be assed

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

"SHIE-"

god voodoo boys are so fucking stupid

[arctic talon]

Vodoo boys deserve it anyways

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Apocalyptic cult

[storm jungle]

Jinx

[storm jungle]

Literally just

"AI is gonna win we need to ruin the blackwall and take their side"

fucking nutjobs

[rocky gale]

I should play 2077 again, romance Judy

[arctic talon]

first AI they meet

"What the fuck are you talking about"

[storm jungle]

Alt frying those 5 runners was so funny

[celest dome]

Couple of swords, and a Flaming Rune Sword

[arctic talon]

neat

thats cool

Honestly the voodoo boys deserve every unfortunate thing that happens to them as a Gang

lol

Most of the gangs in 2077 do

except like the Mox ig

[storm jungle]

Anyway guys i gotta get back to it Idris Elba is gonna kill someone i think

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Elba truly is good looking man

[queen laurel]

Ah Yes my favorite execution method Make them realize who I am and then pull out the blicky

[arctic talon]

shame the modern voodoo boys didn't exist in RED lol

They were still a bunch of kids/teens being racist psychopaths

in 2077 they're just racist psycopaths but actually Hatian instead of white people

[fleet parcel]

do they have 2 brains?

[shadow plover]

No

The joke is that they're stupid

[rocky gale]

No, they just don't need the one they have

[fleet parcel]

lmao

[median star]

he drops a unique pistol btw

lot of ppl myself included miss it for some reason

[celest dome]

I'd never kill Elba

[median star]

not elba other guy

[storm jungle]

Slider? FUCK I missed it lmao

the cycle continues

[median star]

its the only unique pistol that uses that bulpup tech revolver

also biggest thing about phantom liberty a lot of ppl dont rlly talk about is reeds face is crazy in it story telling on whats usually about to happen or you can tell when hes in deep contemplation by just watching his eyes

[celest dome]

Wait Bulpup Revolver

[storm jungle]

Tbh hes also a jingoistic CIA/American goon

[rocky gale]

What the fuck

[median star]

it also full auto and a technical rail gun

sssh

[celest dome]

How is it a Revolver

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[median star]

thing in back is a cylinder

that spins

[celest dome]

What is the thing that goes down ?

Power cell ?

[median star]

no clue its the thing right under the oval kind of looking stamping that gets changed out on reload

[celest dome]

So it is a magazine to revolving then it get shot ?

That's more like a P90 than revolver

[median star]

p90 mag doesnt revolve

only the bullets

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Darra_Polytechnic_DR-12_Quasar

[celest dome]

Does the cylinder move ?

[median star]

yes

better pic that shows its an actual cylinder

[sacred ginkgo]

That thing can't be fun to hold straight

[median star]

its got like an offset sort of brace that goes on the forarm on other side

[sacred ginkgo]

I mostly mean the disk digging into your wrist

[arctic talon]

The worst part is this is feasible irl since its a tech weapon

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if the next edition will kick off with Deathwatch vs Orks instead of BA.

[remote wadi]

I do hope they get any introduction combat patrol that isn't space marines Vs tyranids

We should have necrons Vs aeldari
Or chaos Vs ultramarine

[nocturne crest]

Chaos vs Aeldari, so if it isn't a success GW can claim the market didn't want it.

[remote wadi]

Trueee

[arctic talon]

that was already a battleforce box tbf, and it sold well

[sacred bluff]

i carried so hard and we only drew 😔

[nocturne crest]

Which one?

[nocturne crest]

Because all I can think of is the NL vs Dark Eldar.

[arctic talon]

that has literally never been a box

[nocturne crest]

Oh. I was thinking of the killteam box. Sorry

[arctic talon]

Oh

thats not a combat patrol

lmao

Also there was another Eldar vs CSM box for that one

corasirs vs legionaries

[nocturne crest]

Have they ever done a xenos vs xenos battleforce?

[arctic talon]

battleforce or box in general

very important distinction lol

[nocturne crest]

Either.

[surreal nest]

pretty sure battleforces are just one army

[arctic talon]

Termination(GSC vs LoV) and a few others

I just have this ones art on hand

[arctic talon]

correct, battleboxes which are their own thing can be 1-2 factions

[nocturne crest]

Wasn't that just Brood Brothers vs LoV?

[arctic talon]

Brood brothers are xeno

as are the leagues of votaan

[nocturne crest]

Good point.

[nocturne crest]

Slannesh's reaction:

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-popcorn-gif-22679950

[arctic talon]

there's one more box

that was nids vs CWE

but I can't find it

bcs it was super limited run during Apocalypse Lmao

it was part of Apocalypse War Zone: Valedor

[stone idol]

So I have a question about the power swords Like I know their are are but how are we finding so many in warhammer darktide?

[sacred ginkgo]

We're the inquisition

[arctic talon]

There's not actually that many among us also we're the inqusition

lol

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/ulrik-dum-dum-gif-8139603776302963066

[dire loom]

True, we are the Inquisition.

[stone idol]

Fair enough

[arctic talon]

but not everyone and their mother reject wise

has a powersword

[dire loom]

Unless..

[arctic talon]

Its likely only for those who've survived a mission or two

[dire loom]

Which we are

[arctic talon]

as for once we're level 30 who gives a shit at that point

Full part of the warband

[dire loom]

Probably only survivors are the VOs.

[arctic talon]

yeah

1 of each gender + personality combo

lol

[dire loom]

So just count all of em and you have your warband.

[arctic talon]

for a grand total of 21

[remote wadi]

What do you mean even I have a sword

[arctic talon]

The more odd weapons that they have a comically large amount of are force weapons tbh

Mostly because those are even more $$$$

but I suppose they likely only have a few and the quantity in game is an exageration lol

[dire loom]

Aside from peoples personal head canons

[stone idol]

Ok but I do have another question could the lazguns be equiped with Grenade launchers or underbarrel shotguns? Or is that not a thing?.

[arctic talon]

there is an underbarrel grenade launcher for some lasgun models

[dire loom]

Yes. Because I said so.

[arctic talon]

The kantreal has a variant with it in Munda

[dire loom]

Is lore now

[arctic talon]

as for shotgun no

[dire loom]

That's how Warhammer 40k works

GW does literally the same thing

[arctic talon]

as for if the imperium has generally attachable underbarrel grenade launchers

ehhh not as much

but you could def write it in lol

We've seen them before

[remote wadi]

Also as someone that is new to the tabletop

[stone idol]

I quess we haven't found a proper way to get them working

[remote wadi]

No one introduces no one with kill team

[arctic talon]

the big thing with under barrel weapons

[remote wadi]

Combat patrol is discount tabletop

[arctic talon]

is that bayonets are way more common

[remote wadi]

Kill team is kill team

[arctic talon]

a bayonet lug is like

on every single imperial lasgun ever lol

[stone idol]

I would love to see darktide give us a underbarrel grenade launcher or just a regular grenade launcher for the game

[arctic talon]

a normal GL is much more likely

imo

its pretty normal usage wise in the guard

its the cheapest "special" weapon

[stone idol]

I guess FT needs promission from games workshop to add that in the game

[arctic talon]

anyways here's an example of a lasgun with an auxillary grenade launcher

used by Elysian squad D-99

[stone idol]

Ooh GIMME GIMME GIMME

[arctic talon]

before they got fucking eaten by nids

[stone idol]

I need my Vet to have that asap!

[arctic talon]

also there's the other faction

that uses underbarrel grenade launchers

a lot

the Tau empire loves that shit lol

Hallowette give us the underbarrel pulse grenade launcher probably has one

lol

[stone idol]

Oh I know the tau love them

[silver crescent]

Question, do Guardsman, especially Cadians ONLY use Lasguns or do they have other stuff as well?

I only see Cadians use Lasguns

and Kasrkin using Plasma guns

[arctic talon]

So how guardsmen squads are setup is that in a group of 5-20

you have 19 riflemen + a sgt

however the riflemen can be arranged into 2 "special weapon troopers" + 2 can use a heavy weapon

[sacred ginkgo]

Recent cadian stuff has them with autoguns

[arctic talon]

but generally lasguns are whats carried around by a squad

because they're cheap, in high quantity, and common

Special weapons are: meltas, flamers, plasma guns, grenade launchers

heavy weapons are: Missile launchers, heavy bolter, heavy stubber, auto cannon, heavy flamer

[stone idol]

Can a LazGun easily rip through human and xeno's flesh like hot butter?

[silver crescent]

How could a Guardsman have a heavy bolter or a stubber?

[arctic talon]

its squad served

[silver crescent]

Ah

[arctic talon]

and usually mounted

[stone idol]

The guardsman would need to use a two man group like modern soldiers

[silver crescent]

Would anyone get a bolt pistol specifically though? I always thought sgts or something would get that.

[arctic talon]

Human yes, most xenos yes, Orks and Nid flesh fuck no lol

Yes

Sgts use them

Sgts use pistols and a melee

alongside a rifle(sometimes)

[silver crescent]

Oh that's perfect for me then!

[stone idol]

Gotcha thank you

[arctic talon]

lasguns are effective at dealing with armor shittier then flak

[silver crescent]

I was asking because I mainly play with Bpistol and a knife in game, so I was wondering if that's even something Guardsman did

[arctic talon]

unfortunately for the guardsmen

there's a lot of armor thats better then flak armor

[silver crescent]

But ye thanks Elite, means a lot to me

this info makes me very happy. :)

[arctic talon]

no problem

[silver crescent]

Yeah if you were curious, was asking because I am getting art of my fursona fighting with said things in my Vet's armor, and before I would post it anywhere wanted to know if I would get the funny "haha tourist knows nothing about WH, see they would actaully use x and y!"

(tbh I'd probably be classified as a xeno so)

[storm jungle]

Yeah people saying you cannot use a bolt weapon of any kind are usually grognards. As long as you explain how you got it in a fitting sense its not really an issue.

[silver crescent]

That's good to hear!

I only heard bad things about WH's community so yk, kinda shy to share anything I get made for it outside of this server, this server's pretty chill.

[young pecan]

It's because there are only bad things about WH's community

[vagrant fox]

in the defence of the greater warhammer community I just saw people complaining about female custodes a moment ago in a different server

[young pecan]

/j

[young pecan]

god, I hate women

anyway back to playing limp biscuit with all my MAN custodes

[vagrant fox]

gods #1 mistake no doubt those jezebels have ruined culture for ALL men FOREVER

as an aside but on the note of ruining things forever for everyone the garou are really funny in WoD

[silver crescent]

My best friend and his boyfriend said that it was stupid it was retconned or something.

Idk much about it

Custodians are Emperor's bodyguards? Right?

[vagrant fox]

Crème de la crème of his genetic engineering, his bodyguards and companions

[surreal nest]

Noticeably nothing to do with having to be male curiously enough

[vagrant fox]

primarchs aside, for the genetic thing

[surreal nest]

It's almost as if the lore was designed in a time where women weren't commonly accepted in hobby spaces....makes you think....and now they realize its a net positive to include women!

[vagrant fox]

I can recall one singular line that firstborns sons were taken and I'm not entirely sure about that one. Other than that I can recall nothing about it being limited to any gender

[young pecan]

I believe only spess muhreens are explicitly male

[surreal nest]

Due to the same archaic bullshit

[stone idol]

They aren't canon

[vagrant fox]

Well, they are now

[young pecan]

Google free

[surreal nest]

Turns out Tithes of War wasn't canon

Or Tithes

I dont remember the name

[young pecan]

Google on device you use to type comment

[silver crescent]

Iirc they said something like "Yeah but they were only MEN before, but now they randomly said THERE WERE ALWAYS WOMEN" and I agreed with them in the senses that it's stupid they said "there were always women there" and not just "he made women this time" or something.

[young pecan]

Use Google

[silver crescent]

But I agreed mostly to stop the argument

I don't really give too much of a shit myself

[vagrant fox]

I think it could've been implemented a bit better but what is in 40k

[stone idol]

I stand by what I say

[storm jungle]

Is this sarcasm or are you serious

[stone idol]

Dumb sarcasm

[storm jungle]

Death.

[stone idol]

Very very dumb

[surreal nest]

Well the way I view it is the universe of warhammer is so rich and expansive that any "exception" could simply be another thing that was overlooked or not a common topic or whatever. Like the Tau fucking appearing. There's lore backing it up but generally people just kinda discovered them

[stone idol]

Wanted to get a stupid reaction

[silver crescent]

If I was a smarter person or more knowledgable about 40k I'd mention that

but both know I am a super noob to 40k

so they'd not even listen to me

they actually read books and shit

Do I look like a reader to you?

[surreal nest]

Like one day a female custodes appearing doesn't mean they just started existing now, it means they have been and now they're getting a spotlight. It didnt bother me too much

[daring creek]

If you think about it. There are female space marines. They just don't know that yet

[rocky gale]

Yea like when GW added Tau, they had always existed in the setting, when the Votann got added they had always existed in the setting. It happens all the time.

[daring creek]

[stone idol]

I am never drinking strawberry inferno Liquid death one was enough for me

[surreal nest]

thats exactly my thought process

[stone idol]

Too much of a kick

[silver crescent]

I'll use that argument if they whine about it again though

[storm jungle]

Basically speaking as a person whos been in this fandom for a decade; its largely okay but the vocal parts of it tend to be filled with nazis which fit what I call the Holy Chudrinity:

• Sexist
• Homophobic
• Racist

The warhammer community can be really great but id suggest just finding a space where you feel welcome in some cases, its absolutely sometimes filled to the brim with idiots that get upset for the dumbest shit, this week its some marine heads looking like chicks (they are asian) and a few weeks ago it was being uspet that that new space wolf minis had some painted with dark skin lol

Being a female 40k fan was probably some of the most dreadful parts of my entire life lol

[daring creek]

Oh yeah. Im here to say Orks feel very Rayman lmfao

[rocky gale]

People forget that in fictional settings, things don't exist until the author decides they do and then they always existed.

[surreal nest]

Wait what people got mad about the scout wolves not being white????

deja vu

[young pecan]

Heh... you don't even know anything about da lore.. FEMALE

[silver crescent]

Yeah it makes me somewhat ashamed of accepting that I actually like 40k

[surreal nest]

I thought there was already an outrage about a space wolf head having dreadlocs

[silver crescent]

I always stayed away from it because of said community until I played Darktide

[storm jungle]

Dont be ashamed, just dont be a nazi, its very easy believe me

[silver crescent]

then I realised I really like it

[storm jungle]

There was

[surreal nest]

Whenever somebody asks me about my hobby im as vague as humanly possible until I realize they are also cursed with knowledge of warhammer

[daring creek]

I'm reading krieg and I'm imagining this stompa titan thingy looking like a fuck load of orks swinging their arms and fales around

[vagrant fox]

There's no need to get upset over plastic and people that don't actually exist just chill

[storm jungle]

Every lore or miniature drop of any kind of new content's "outrage" by that part of the fandom can be summed up as either sexism or racism, its very goofy lol

^

its just toys

[silver crescent]

I have no shame so if someone who isn't my future coworker asks me what my hobby is I straight up would just tell them "I'm a furry"

[surreal nest]

how tf are they mad again if they already know black space wolves are a thing

[silver crescent]

and I'd say that before I say I like warhammer

because I never spent money on minis

So yk

[storm jungle]

Good

that makes you smart

[daring creek]

40k is unsubtly Anti War by showing the raw uncensored realities of it. There is nothing to be ashamed of

[silver crescent]

Does it

[storm jungle]

aka having money

[surreal nest]

Not good paint and enjoy life

[daring creek]

Just some people don't know how to read...

[silver crescent]

I spend a lot of money on furry art mate

[storm jungle]

Do you wanna be homeless by spending money on minis and paints

[silver crescent]

that's arguably worse

[surreal nest]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Idk man

[silver crescent]

I already am by spending money on furry art

kekw

[storm jungle]

i got many furry friends who are loaded lol

[rocky gale]

I've spent so much money on Warhammer

[storm jungle]

Warhammer mini addiction is worse

[surreal nest]

The name of the game be budget boxes

[daring creek]

Maybe furries are the wealthy elite

[silver crescent]

Issue is I am 19, finished high school, jobless

[vagrant fox]

Furries are suspiciously rich, prime target of conspiracy theories

[surreal nest]

you actually get huge bang for your buck with budget boxes

[daring creek]

Normal

[silver crescent]

gonna get into uni next year tho

[rocky gale]

I'd probably be able to afford a house if I didn't collect Warhammer

[storm jungle]

Depends, most just got good paying jobs because fursuits and other shit require a bit of investment. Pilots, surgeons, dentists, etc

[daring creek]

I just want a job and to start working towards living alone

[silver crescent]

I had a best buddy who wanted to collect minis

I was gonna help him find some because he is into WH more than I am

then he ghosted me so

[daring creek]

Yeah they tend to be in a lot of sectors and trades.

[silver crescent]

I guess we're not friends anymore, rip my only Irl friend who remained

[surreal nest]

It was worth it trust

[rocky gale]

I don't have space in my room for it all

[surreal nest]

tell me about it

[silver crescent]

If I succeed in uni and become an accomplished software engineer I'll let ya know lol

I'll be another stereotype

[slow quarry]

Well actually female Spacemarines where a thing in the first books published until they made the decision to stop producing the models because they didn't sale that good and then this 'Spacemarines must be male' thing started.

[silver crescent]

Really?

[vagrant fox]

yea they used to exist

[storm jungle]

it was a lot more experimental

[surreal nest]

i have 4 totes of unpainted minis a glass display cabinet with half painted minis and an entire seperate box of more unpainted miniatures

i need to be shot

[storm jungle]

they werent entirely canon

just miniature attempts to sell to idiot kids

unlike today where you sell to idiot kids and adults

[slow quarry]

Yeah in the first books ever, there is an interview out with the first authors who confirm this. They also confirm that some homosexual-flavours where added to the imperial fists if i recall correctly just out of fun

[storm jungle]

Nah

that was the author of the books being a fetish writer

based tbh

[arctic talon]

your pile of shame is fucking crazy lol

[surreal nest]

ok but heres the difference right heres my justification

[daring creek]

I'm interested.

[arctic talon]

Also Space Marine™ By Ian Watson has

a lot of stuff in it

That has uh

[surreal nest]

i actually play the game so i just like their rules and i collect to play

[slow quarry]

Well in the interview he gave he said he added them because he wanted to troll another author

[arctic talon]

Aged interestingly

[vagrant fox]

Free my man Watson he did nothing wrong

[daring creek]

I'm interested

[arctic talon]

If I did this I'd have like 9 armies by now

[storm jungle]

Chad behavior.

[surreal nest]

like i have numberous killteams bc their rules are fun

[arctic talon]

and be broke

[chrome dagger]

is there any sense in running a modern SF team as a kill team in 40k

[surreal nest]

i wish i could actually do that

[storm jungle]

KT experts help this guy out

[surreal nest]

AoS has some fun ass rules

[slow quarry]

The old authors were great, 40k was quite diverse that time. Its funny how people in the 70s and 80s where more open to some things than some people today

[chrome dagger]

like, they have "autoguns" instead of Sig MCX or hk416

[vagrant fox]

Watson was the poop vault wasn't he? I changed my mind keep him in jail

[surreal nest]

im clocking in

what does SF mean

[silver crescent]

If I could buy any minis, I would probably buy a set of Cadian Guardsmen and Kasrkin boys.

Because I played SM2 and now play Darktide and love the Cadians.

And just leave them somewhere

[chrome dagger]

special forces/quick reaction forces

[chrome dagger]

to this

[silver crescent]

when I get a house have them on display or some shit

[dire loom]

Lol based hatemonger

[surreal nest]

killteam is designed around a certain scale so as long as they match that anything works

[arctic talon]

Yeah run pathfinders, phobos squad(marines), or Kasrkin

[dire loom]

Now it's a party

[arctic talon]

Also Stealth suits maybe

[dire loom]

About karkin time

[arctic talon]

assuming you want something resembling modern doctrine

and not I BASH YOUR SKULL IN WITH A MACE

if you're okay with bashing someones skull in with a mace

beastmen sort of have that Spec ops vibe LOL

same with Kommandos

[surreal nest]

kasrkin would probably be the easiest if you have unique gun sculpts

[vagrant fox]

I'm tempted to get models just to collect a few neat ones but I'd be entirely irresponsible and waste too much money

[chrome dagger]

I mean I have spectre minis with caps and modern assault rifles, but I'd try to run a 40k rpg where the guys are scouts with autoguns. difficult to explain

[surreal nest]

its a little annoying when the models are very similar but they all are supposed to have different weapons

[slow quarry]

I mean al those "this and that is canon and this and that is lore" discussion is useless in my opinion anways because since there are a dozen authors writing this universe each book is as useful for canon as some sort of eye-witness-statement to something that happened. (Just my 2 cents)

[arctic talon]

your goal is to run them as a specific killteam correct? that is resembling modern spec ops

[vagrant fox]

Contradictory truths are funny so it's a-ok don't worry

[daring creek]

Whats another guard regiment book to read

[surreal nest]

i mean usually books have different like power scalings but i dont think the books really invalidate themselves?

[storm jungle]

Tbh theres very much a set canon. People simply get upset when "new thing" happens because "old thing" was better even though they are constantly asking for new stuff.

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah, they very much rarely do.

[vagrant fox]

15 hours

[storm jungle]

its why 40k is really good with its new additions/retcons

[chrome dagger]

trying to fit the look with my space marine minis in an tabletop RPG

paint them with cadian colors possibly

[arctic talon]

As if groups like this exist in lore? the answer is yes

I'm not quite sure about your question still

like is this meant to play the tabletop killteam game

[surreal nest]

Also you should check out Battlesector. Pretty nice representation of the tabletop and you can get the astra militarum as a dlc faction

I love battlesector

[arctic talon]

or is this just for them to blend in with your like

existing plastic

srry

[chrome dagger]

nah not officially

[surreal nest]

all their units are basically scanned miniatures

[silver crescent]

How does tabletop WH even work

[chrome dagger]

yes

[arctic talon]

you have rules, you build army within existing points cost, roll dice

play around mission paramaters and objectives

whoever has highest points wins

[storm jungle]

You pit toys against each other, read rules, do actions and roll dice

[surreal nest]

A lot

[arctic talon]

mmmm plastic

[silver crescent]

So it's like DnD mixed with Starcraft?

[arctic talon]

the core rulebook is free on warcom

no

well

[surreal nest]

I am a guard collector irl and the battlesector playstyle is not too dissimilar

[arctic talon]

DND is spawned from wargames

So sorta

have you ever played 4e?

[silver crescent]

I am a 5e loser

[arctic talon]

40k has more similarities to 4e then other dnd editions

[chrome dagger]

Darktide has autoguns and stuff so I figured a modern assault rifle looks like those, why not use the minis I have

[slow quarry]

In the genrell perception of the universe yes. Like all things that are somewhat common knowledge you will find similarities in some sort. But in smaller things they do sometimes. Like in terms of perspective of imperial factions, what they do, how they do it and so on.

[arctic talon]

since 4e is based more on wargames

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[arctic talon]

it'll work, you could say they're human forces, like a regiment/pdf forces ect.

[storm jungle]

Tbh thats also lore accurate. This is a faction that spans the entire galaxy, they arent monolith in motivation or action.

[chrome dagger]

I'm tempted to call them a special special force

[arctic talon]

Chud who misinforms vs Dude who sells steroids and misinforms

[storm jungle]

LMAO WHAT

[arctic talon]

I'm all in on Majorkill

[arctic talon]

What you didn't know Majorkill sells steroids lol

[slow quarry]

Yes that what i mean, the most accurate lore you have is that nothing is 100% certain

[arctic talon]

Pontius is def a chud

and maybe sexist

probably

[storm jungle]

Pontius is a chud

[chrome dagger]

Autoguns in tabletop 40k similar stats to lasgun right?

[storm jungle]

you should check out his videos

LMAO

[arctic talon]

yeah

[surreal nest]

They just shoot more usually

[chrome dagger]

Say they have armor piercing rounds to fluff

higher rof

[arctic talon]

Autoguns in older editions had an extra shot but worse AP
while lasguns had a less shot but better AP

rn and from like 4e onwards they're identical

LOL

[chrome dagger]

sounds like this will work

[silver crescent]

Is Majorkill a chud? I know my best friend loved putting him on stream to show me WH lore

[arctic talon]

Nah

[silver crescent]

He seemed alright to me

[arctic talon]

He's just wrong sometimes

and also sells steroids

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

LOL

[silver crescent]

okay good!

[storm jungle]

Hes just a dudebro

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

and like

entitled

[silver crescent]

ah

[storm jungle]

otherwise hes whatever

[surreal nest]

I feel like 95% of lore creators or whatever are chuds and all the painters are sweethearts

[silver crescent]

I mean selling steroids doesn't seem that bad, right?

[chrome dagger]

can I link pics to this channel?

[languid meadow]

It's illegal in a lot of places

[arctic talon]

its illegal in a lot of places but its legal where he lives

[surreal nest]

eons of battle is the least black templar player to ever exist

besides the hyiene

hygiene

[daring creek]

Ah another ork battle. Looks good

[vagrant fox]

eob is a good lad

[surreal nest]

i know for sure eons of battle has some stank

[daring creek]

I think I need a fun book

Happy book

[surreal nest]

ciaphis cain is funny

[vagrant fox]

15 hours is happy and fun

[arctic talon]

Midwinter minis

[storm jungle]

Assassinorum Kingmaker

[silver crescent]

I mean, I guess I can't blame him for wanting to make some money helping gymbros, or something

[daring creek]

17 year old soldier

[storm jungle]

Infinite and the Divine too

[silver crescent]

Idk how steroids really work

[arctic talon]

they're drugs

[storm jungle]

they give you muscles and fuck up your body longterm

[arctic talon]

that stimulate muscle growth

and yeah that

[storm jungle]

its very bad

[daring creek]

Maybe. How about something non 40k

[arctic talon]

also have some bad side effects

lol

[storm jungle]

Gotrek and Felix

[silver crescent]

Okay good I didn't fall into the stereoids rabbit hole

[surreal nest]

Think of like superpowers but they arent superpowers and you fucking die of rare untreatable diseases shortly after

[silver crescent]

Steroids*

[arctic talon]

yeah do not take roids

[storm jungle]

tbh

[arctic talon]

that shit is bad

[storm jungle]

theres not a rabbithole to fall into

[arctic talon]

Unless you're taking roids for something medical

[storm jungle]

it just fucks up your body

thats it really

[dark moon]

The Horus Heresy

[arctic talon]

like a really bad respitory issue

or some other stuff

[silver crescent]

I go to the gym because I want to be more muscular, stopped for 8 months due to depression and plan to return

so like

[arctic talon]

but don't take roids to get gains

[daring creek]

[silver crescent]

there's a universe where I took roids

[vagrant fox]

who's that one guy who's like early 20s and looks like he's 50 from steroid abuse it's wild

[arctic talon]

that shit fucks you up

[silver crescent]

Good to know!

[daring creek]

I should slap you with a fish Dilara.

[surreal nest]

steroid is can also be kind of a buzzword because it can mean a lot of different things

[slow quarry]

I've seen someone in Darktide today with the name "HorusDepressy" - guess that's not some sort of happy book

[surreal nest]

like my inhaler is technically a steroid

[young pecan]

"very bad" and "fucks up your body" only sound like downsides if you're a baby backed milk drinker

[arctic talon]

LOL

[dark moon]

Ain’t a universe other than this one pal, nothing to worry about

[young pecan]

when you think about it, exercising fucks up your body and then it's better afterward

[vagrant fox]

22

[storm jungle]

If you think about it

[young pecan]

so like same thing

[storm jungle]

me smashing your balls fucks up your body

[slow quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/keemxdaxtruth-lmao-dead-nope-gif-14774804

[storm jungle]

but then you get better

[storm jungle]

very based

[surreal nest]

Oh yeah those are good

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/face-crumple-cringe-pink-face-original-high-quality-gif-26179553

retracted

[arctic talon]

steroids makes your balls smaller

[chrome dagger]

imo they could be cadian shock troops / ghost detachment in the call of duty sense

[outer wave]

The bubblegum I was chewing after 20 minutes

[chrome dagger]

with autoguns for whatever reason

[surreal nest]

autoguns aren't too bad, cadian SGTS tend to use them

[young pecan]

it would just take a while

[dark moon]

I don’t believe you

[young pecan]

i believe me

[chrome dagger]

I suck at painting still tho

[young pecan]

i think that matters more

[chrome dagger]

the space marine in the background was supposed to be a WW2 super soldier

[surreal nest]

As long as you are patient and feel like you put our your best effort you can't suck

[chrome dagger]

I suppose

[daring creek]

Do orks understand what the Imperium is other than fun dudes to fight

[arctic talon]

some do

some don't care

some don't

[daring creek]

These guys are really cool

[vagrant fox]

Probably as many answers to that question as there are orks

[surreal nest]

I think so, I've heard about them mocking the emperor before

[young pecan]

Orks do slavery amongst themselves and to captives don't they

[dark moon]

Yeah

[daring creek]

With all the glazing the Imperium gets

I like them

The orks feel like a reality check

[young pecan]

I'm sure they're curious why the Imperium's slaves get paid at all

[daring creek]

Slaves get paid???

In the imperium??

[dark moon]

Orks are pretty cool, to be fair.

[chrome dagger]

how many wounds do human characters get in kill team/40k?

[daring creek]

I thought they were paid in not being executed/fed the very nutritional minimum

[young pecan]

There are about ten forms of slavery and a good amount of them get paid a little

[slow quarry]

Depends on the planet if they get paid or not

[daring creek]

Does the Guard count at all

[young pecan]

"If deyz is slaves anyway, why iz you payin em"

[young pecan]

Probably

[chrome dagger]

I suppose the toughness and wounds are based on how cool the model is

which I fully support

[arctic talon]

40k normal infantry
1 wound

Killteam
8-9 wounds

[daring creek]

I think the guard should definitely count as slaves lmao

[arctic talon]

they get paid

[daring creek]

Literally life long duty

Paid slaves

[chrome dagger]

can I drop a kill team into a 40k battle and not have them get wrecked

[young pecan]

doesn't matter much when the long life is a year

[arctic talon]

a single squad in 40k always gets slaughtered lol

40k is incredibly lethal

you should expect your units to die horribly

[daring creek]

[arctic talon]

doesn't matter if its a marine, or a Grot

[chrome dagger]

I lack the moneys to play a game longer than 2 minutes lol

[arctic talon]

I mean killteam is longer

lol

KT and 40k game lengths are about the same

ironically

because of how scale works

[chrome dagger]

nah. The point was to make a custom RPG conversion and use those dudes as a strike team

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-cope-warhammer-meme-shut-up-gif-24598622

Crazy how getting hit anywhere with that thing is probably guaranteed death

[chrome dagger]

tabletop RPGs are the most time intensive

which I don't mind

[arctic talon]

40k has TTRPGs

[chrome dagger]

I like the idea of the FFG ones

[vagrant fox]

They're quite fun

[chrome dagger]

But I don't know which one to play out of those

[arctic talon]

What are you trying to do

with your group

[chrome dagger]

Use a game master emulator to run a co-op scenario driven rpg

[slow quarry]

It depends in the type of Guardsmen and from where they come. Could be that if you where part of the tithe that your family would get some sort of compensation for you. Actually if you take into consideration some books from the pen and paper settings there are monthly salarys for different classes listed there

[chrome dagger]

So far I have heavy intercessors and those dudes in the pic that fit the scale

[arctic talon]

tbh its easier to name what guns can't kill you in a single shot in 40k LOL

[chrome dagger]

and a TON of cardboard standees from Starfinder

[daring creek]

What do you think kriegsmen sound like

[chrome dagger]

so I have lots of opposition and characters/monsters

[daring creek]

I think in Janoviches video they had kind of a squeaky one

Of course nothing official

But it reminded me of those droids from star wars a bit

Or well now it does

[arctic talon]

French/German/British

because thats what their gear is based on

lol

pick one of 3

dif parts of the planet have dif accents

[daring creek]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[arctic talon]

muffled

[young pecan]

Lasgun melts the area of your body it hits ||unless your name is Harlon Nayl||

[arctic talon]

but not comically so

[daring creek]

I believe their bayonet is American

[vagrant fox]

the most foul of all europeans, they sound like squeaky teenager luxembourgers with a smattering of english

[arctic talon]

💀

Honestly

most of the weapons I'm thinking of that can't kill you with 1 shot

aren't meant to kill you

[young pecan]

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-steamsad-steamangry-steammad-steamangy-gif-10453971517039865787

[vagrant fox]

do not have sympathy for luxembourg

[young pecan]

Last night I went against an Abrams/Drifter lane

[spring cairn]

abums

[young pecan]

Both me and my laner ~5k souls ahead in the early game and Abrams still pumping out enough damage and survivability to almost 1v2 us if we weren't explicitly careful

[opaque coyote]

So has anybody tried to like

Farm engagement from the Chaos Gods

Like they tried to gain favor from Khorne by say

Forcing people into cages

Giving them a knife

"Only way to survive is if you murder the other"

That type of cruelty

[daring creek]

Hunger games?

Goofy ass vehicle

[arctic talon]

this is just normal chaos activities

lol

[storm jungle]

^

this is like bottom of the tier stuff

also you dont really farm engagement

you made them do this act

[daring creek]

Reading a grimdark book made me less depressed today

Yay.

Mmm..

[storm jungle]

Go into grimdark fandom

Read book

Is grimdark

[daring creek]

I was told there would be sunshine and rainbows

Where are the giant loving teddy bears

[vagrant fox]

do you think this one will be fun and sunshine?

[daring creek]

Yea

[vagrant fox]

the name is promising

[daring creek]

Oh my god I wonder what 40k would look like in pyrovision

Fucking paradise

https://tenor.com/view/pyro-tf2-pyrovision-team-fortress-gif-20939973

[opaque coyote]

So how does gaining favor of the Gods work

I know it is definitely inconsistent cause

[arctic talon]

Do a lot of violence

[opaque coyote]

I mean

Chaos

[storm jungle]

Kill people.

[arctic talon]

or do a lot of X Y Z

[storm jungle]

Kill people.

[arctic talon]

also yeah kill people

LOL

[storm jungle]

And kill more people.

And sometimes kill them in more elaborate ways.

[opaque coyote]

True.

But I think it depends which method?

[storm jungle]

Hence the "elaborate methods" part

[opaque coyote]

Although why would Tzeentch care about murder.

[storm jungle]

Because you did it blessing and using his motives

[opaque coyote]

True but do you have to do it in like

A sneaky way

Using sorcery

Or can you just shout

"For Tzeentch!" And then stab somebody in the throat

[storm jungle]

Yes.

🗿

[opaque coyote]

And I assume merely stabbing them wouldn't Garner you much favor since in Tzeentch's eyes that's boring

Unless if you did it as the end to some overly long scheme

Like a political assassination

[pale coral]

Does anyone know why they like to build hive cities up instead of out?

[opaque coyote]

Because they already built it as wide as possible.

A lot of hive cities take up entire continents

[valid needle]

Save space

[opaque coyote]

Think of Coruscant from Star Wars

Most Hive Cities already are built out as wide as possible

[pale coral]

Oh, from the depictions I have seen they looked like they had a lot of land to build out. But those could have been smaller hive cities

[opaque coyote]

So all that's left is up

Or down

But usually down is already taken as well

[opaque coyote]

Also you need to do things like remove mountains

Forests

Etc.

And that's difficult

Just build up instead

[arctic talon]

Hive cities are a lot bigger underground due to infastructure

then they are on like

the surface

[storm jungle]

Speaking as an architect its the case of humans in general building, well, buildings upwards, its to efficiently use limited and expensive land in dense urban areas, accommodating both residential and commercial needs by building vertically rather than spreading out.

In the case of Hives they are all these but also massive metropolises who trillions to gazillions of humans, people just build and build ontop of them interchanging of each other and its just where it all goes.

At the end of the day its just natural progression.

[arctic talon]

Kwonloon walled city

[opaque coyote]

Personally, the Necrons and Egyptians got the right idea with pyramids

Big triangle is aesthetically pleasing

[vagrant fox]

big fan of darktides depiction, very wide very tall

[daring creek]

Kwonloon was a disaster waiting to happen tbh

[storm jungle]

This but replace "Kowloon" with "Humanity"

🗿

[opaque coyote]

I think it was partially restricted due to the land expansion being limited by law

If I remember correctly, part of the reason why people moved there is because it was "technically" subject under Chinese law rather than Hong Kong/British.

So it was a weird grey zone.

[vagrant fox]

a lot of dentists that couldn't operate in hong kong proper or something, pretty cool

[opaque coyote]

Which is why Dentists were there. Because their Chinese Degrees didn't count in Hong Kong

Because...

Fuck you.

[opaque coyote]

Bro airplanes nearly touched the roofs of several buildings

It was apparently a common site to see a plane screaming near you

I was just surprised that a plane didn't fucking crash and cause an early accidental 9/11

[vagrant fox]

This one, they've obviously spread out wide but built tall in the centre. Not that I'm an architect but building up is pretty space efficient, ish

[storm jungle]

Its really good yeah

[outer wave]

Considering its 40k, why not make the whole world one massive hive city instead of various hive cities?

[storm jungle]

Way too costly

Hives serve a purpose by being focal points

[outer wave]

😔

[opaque coyote]

Also if I remember I definitely think there are a couple of Hive cities that are planet wide

[storm jungle]

Its why I recommend folks to look at maps like Munda

where theres like a dozen hive cities

and inbetween them is just countless sprawl-cities

then its just wastelands etc

[outer wave]

TIL there are things called sprawl cities in 40k

Didnt know that

[storm jungle]

Yeah lol

[opaque coyote]

So basically

Suburbia but shitty

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

So basically hive cities are basically capital cities, then sprawl cities are the dinky little towns in the boonies, and then the wastelands are just not used land

[daring creek]

I haven't completed a book in a really long time

[storm jungle]

there can also be hive cities that are just floating cities, or hives that are completely underground, inside mountains, above gas giants, etc.

[daring creek]

Closest I've got recently was 90%

[opaque coyote]

"Man I love my 15 minute hour city!"

[daring creek]

Krieg might be the first book I complete in a long time.

[arctic talon]

The hive city that’s a giant boat

In the uh

Imperium maledictum supplement

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

God I'd love to see the floating ones on gas giants

I think gas giants are underused in 40k

[storm jungle]

Yeah barely even

they get SOME mentions here and there

[opaque coyote]

Knowing the Imperium, if you lived in a Sprawl city that's nearby a Hive. There would be a traffic jam that makes Los Angeles feel like a 5 minute walk.

[storm jungle]

but most writers dont really explore alien planet concepts much

[vagrant fox]

Big fan of Ambulon, the ambulatory city just walking around the place

It's like a futurama skit almost

[opaque coyote]

30 hour drive to your daily work place

(The distance is actually just an hour drive but the traffic jam makes it so much longer)

[outer wave]

Imagine a hive city that 'mines' gaseous material from a gas giant like Nitrogen by doing some 1800s esque mine shaft shit that dips down close to the core of the planet

That shit sounds awesome and horrifying

[storm jungle]

There is one actually like that as a very offshoot mention

gas harvest is a thing in some lore bits

[opaque coyote]

I mean the problem is that most Gas Giants aren't solid enough to stand on.

So it'd probably be a floating citadel type of situation

[outer wave]

Well yeah, thats fine

[storm jungle]

They just said its a floating city

DIE.

[arctic talon]

warframe reference

[opaque coyote]

Stop doing this thing called reading it's bad for you

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

Wait a minute.... Im not a they!!!!!!

[storm jungle]

Too late

[vagrant fox]

assigned they by lore chat

[outer wave]

OUUUUUUGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH--

I got woked....

[opaque coyote]

Accidental skipping over words aside.

I can imagine it being similar to like

The heretic base in Halo 2

The one the Arbiter inflitrates

But much much bigger

[outer wave]

That'd be awesome

[opaque coyote]

And also shittier

[outer wave]

Just straight up awesome

[storm jungle]

Also reminder, 40k works on the rule of "make up any shit you want"

so you can come up with some wild habitational city ideas

[arctic talon]

Warframe gas city

[opaque coyote]

"Another shift in the gas mines."

I can imagine those type of planets would be mostly Mechanicus owned tbh

[storm jungle]

We all lift together

[daring creek]

World where everyone lives happy and full lives

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because I doubt any baseline would be able to

Live

[arctic talon]

don't ask why its sunny on Jupiter

[opaque coyote]

Exists but it will probably get evaporated by Orks in like 10 years

[proven needle]

Is that a copy of Gloriana map? 😆

[pale coral]

You mean the bass pro shop pyrmid

[opaque coyote]

Like I can imagine there being actual decent or even good planets to live on.

It's just due to the strict tithes, I can imagine them eventually turning into shit as a result

Because the resource hunger is so prevalent that any "good" planet will inevitably turn into another shitty wasteland

So it would be temporary

[storm jungle]

Even "good" planets will be bad to some extent

the shittiness of planets spawns from its rulers

here IRL they at least SOMETIMES gotta put on a show of a good act and leadership

in the Imperium they can do whatever they want as long as tithes are met

you can literally be going home fro ma factory job and a Enforcer will just kill you because he was bored lol

[arctic talon]

my favorite offtime activity for palanites

shooting at random people

[opaque coyote]

Honestly standards in the Imperium are probably so low that a good ruler would probably be like

"Willing to put in a bit more effort to actually give miners proper equipment."

[night folio]

+3 maelstorm

[storm jungle]

Basically yes.

[pale coral]

Is tertium small compared to other hive cities then?

[opaque coyote]

Average

[storm jungle]

Not really no

90 Billion is a big number lol

and thats just Hive Tertium btw

we dont know about the other hives

[arctic talon]

Tertium is beeg

90 billion in just tertium

[opaque coyote]

Maybe when 40k actually comes irl will we explore other hives

Fat shark, please, swim faster

[storm jungle]

Time to go to China

🇨🇳

[pale coral]

Hong kong is a irl hive city

[arctic talon]

not dense enough

by far lol

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ling-gang-linga-guli-guli-gif-149092093077543302

[arctic talon]

there's not a lot of places irl that would be dense enough to be an actual hive city

yet

[opaque coyote]

Visited there twice.

The air quality apparently got better since the last time I visited. Somehow.

Like, I know America isn't exactly the poster child of clean air.

But I am serious in that back then, spending like a day in Beijing probably is equivalent to breathing in Los Angeles air for like a week

[storm jungle]

Time to go again.

[opaque coyote]

Also people kept spitting on the ground

Not even towards like gutters or trash cans

Just randomly

Somehow that bothered me the most

[arctic talon]

less smog now

prolly because they're burning less coal

[opaque coyote]

Good

[pale coral]

Didn’t china recently reach a point where they have more factory robots than the entire world

[vagrant fox]

My dad went to china while working for a windmill company and almost lost his thumb and they wouldn't help him at the hospital before he paid which struck me as odd

[opaque coyote]

Hopefully if I ever visit China again, the sun doesn't look like the Death Star charging up

[arctic talon]

honestly probably?

they have a lot of factories

[pale coral]

China has a thing called “Dark Factories” and its just factories entirely staffed by robots

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's an unfortunate thing about China

Unless if you are literally dying

Pay up

...

At least they still have universal Healthcare

[opaque coyote]

The USA is basically the same btw

[daring creek]

That sounds...made up lmao.

[young pecan]

Farming engagement is actually like one of the most popular things the followers can do

[arctic talon]

there's still going to be "handlers" for the robots tbh

but total automation of assembly lines is possible nowadays

[opaque coyote]

Yippee I love low level jobs being erased

[arctic talon]

and by robots I mean mechanical arms and stuff

lol

[pale coral]

There are repair technicians and such but everything is fully automated

[arctic talon]

again, there's probably still a handler present to ensure everything runs smoothly

[opaque coyote]

Congratulations we're in the future

Do you enjoy it

[pale coral]

Here a quote from a news article “Chinese factories installed nearly 300,000 new industrial robots last year alone. To put that in perspective, the United States, the world’s largest economy, installed a mere 34,000.”

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the USA pretty much outsources a majority of it's work

To China

And various other countries

[pale coral]

True

[opaque coyote]

But yeah our manufacturing plants basically

Aren't a thing

If the USA ever wants to bring back manufacturing it would probably take a couple of decades

[pale coral]

54% of robot installation came from china last year

Thats wild

The machine spirit is strong with china

[daring creek]

Total automation factories aren't inherently bad. It means less work for people. Or well...less work means less money. I'd like to think it has a good outcome but I don't know how it would turn out bad

[arctic talon]

more lol

[opaque coyote]

They aren't. Automation isn't inherently bad.

[daring creek]

There'd still be maintaince required

And possibly those to collect the finished goods

I like the idea of a job being as simple as that

Driving from point A to B...besides trucking

[opaque coyote]

In fact, part of the reason why is that despite having a lot of jobs in general.

It isn't enough for a lot of people to fucking live

Or even higher grade jobs. Good luck trying to get experience

Should've hustled when you were 5

Automation isn't the cause of that. It's unfortunately us.

[daring creek]

I just want humanity to have a better work life balance. Ideally I'd want people to work 20 hours a week on average. Thats two 10 hour shifts or 4 5 hour shifts

Or vice versa

[pale coral]

Humans are humanity’s problem unfortunately

[opaque coyote]

Damn humans

They ruined humans

[daring creek]

40 a week already takes its toll on people

Hell most people wouldn't even stop working if jobs became an option

They'd probably go for their passions

[vagrant fox]

I had a temp job at 20 hours a week and I wasn't worried about money and it was honestly heaven I'd do it forever if I could

[daring creek]

Like art, writing, customer service(yes some people genuinely like serving people), doctoring, nursing etc

Doctors have it real rough.