40k-lore-chat

[remote wadi]

The ones that are mono god ones are our tools

[surreal nest]

Thats cope

[remote wadi]

Those that keep the undivision are the rulers

[lament shoal]

Buddy this is literally chaos cope 😭

You're the tool not them

[celest dome]

Yes, and they're wrong, they're just as naive for thinking they're able to be over Chaos

All existance will be wiped when the current game is over

You won't be saved

[surreal nest]

The idea that some desperate traitorous space thug thinks he is one upping chaos is comical

[remote wadi]

The only one that is over chaos are the necrons

But out of all human factions

[surreal nest]

Tyranids are beyond chaos

[remote wadi]

The chaos undivided is the more individualistic one

[lament shoal]

And this has been a recurring theme throughout the setting too so idk how this guy isn't getting it 😭

[remote wadi]

The one with more choice

[remote wadi]

The hive mind can have a warp presence

We can't be sure of that

[surreal nest]

The existence of Helbrutes should prove that chaos is not a tool it is a trick

[storm jungle]

Helbrutes are peak comedy I love them

[lament shoal]

I forgot about those but you're absolutely right

[dapper gyro]

Roleplay gone wrong?

[storm jungle]

i was reading the new thousand sons codex and it explains how TSons trick chaos lords with their services then stuff them into helbrutes to become shocktroops

[remote wadi]

But if I choose loyalists you still end up falling for chaos

[remote wadi]

Just dark king chaos

Instead of khorne, nurgle, slaneesh or tzeentch

[celest dome]

Sure, but it isn't Undivided

[remote wadi]

That's my point

[celest dome]

Like if I pledged my soul to the Great Horned Rat it wouldn't be Undivided

[remote wadi]

Chaos undivided is the only one that is a choice

The others are extremes Ur pushed to

[celest dome]

Not worshiping chaos is also a choice

[sour hornet]

Thousand Sons being based for the 30 trillionth time

[remote wadi]

Bile is chaos undivided

The only guy that doesn't is chaos undivided

[celest dome]

Because Bile is a ok with Chaos

He like Chaos

[lament shoal]

Being a helbrute has gotta be one of the worst fates in 40k

[celest dome]

for hell's sake

[sour hornet]

Well, just don't be an idiot, or suck at fighting, and you'll be good

[surreal nest]

Every chaos goon starts their heretical career with "Well, just don't be an idiot, or suck at fighting, and you'll be good"

And then they end up in a cash register with wheels

[remote wadi]

Legit besides bile there's not a single human that isn't chaos corrupted

[celest dome]

Except he is corrupted

[remote wadi]

The choice is be corrupted by the machine god,dark prince,nurgle, slaneesh, tzeentch or khorne

[sour hornet]

It takes a special kind of failure to fuck up enough to not get fully obliterated and become a helbrute

[remote wadi]

Or be undivided

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/malreynolds-firefly-speechless-gif-5332816

[surreal nest]

The what and who

[lament shoal]

Being around chaos long enough taints your soul, he is absolutely corrupted even if his appearance doesn't indicate that

[sour hornet]

Not me though, im different, just you watch

[celest dome]

Someone take Kimo's Chaos licence

[remote wadi]

We have a chaos realm for machines

We have a chaos realm for those that workship the emperor

Chaos undivided can be being an atheist

[dapper gyro]

At that point, I might as well pray the Eldar death god.

[celest dome]

Not really

[lament shoal]

When you got someone with the 8 pointed star pfp and a name starting with "heretic" saying this, you KNOW its bad

[surreal nest]

Wouldn't they just be renegade

[dapper gyro]

At least there is an actual waifu at the top.

[surreal nest]

Isnt there a difference between chaos undivided and renegades

[remote wadi]

No cause for you to be an atheist in 40k you have to be powerful enought to contest the forces forcing you to one side

[celest dome]

One that is in bed with Chaos and one that is just against the Imperium

[remote wadi]

And be pretty much an true individual guy

Aka bile

[surreal nest]

But by essence of being part of chaos you are on one side

Bile is aligned with chaos

[dapper gyro]

Renegade war band of Ashens Claws, what do they worship?

[remote wadi]

The empirium is aligned with chaos

[storm jungle]

Bile's entire joke is that hes a hypocrite who doesnt realize hes serving Slaanesh

[remote wadi]

They just don't know it yet

[surreal nest]

You can work in the paint store without being covered in paint

Someone find out what I mean by that because idk

[remote wadi]

It's called being a manager

You don't have to paint

You just need to make sure they do

[dapper gyro]

Everything chaos legion have a guy like that...

[lament shoal]

Big E isn't chaos god yet so no.

[surreal nest]

Yeah but you still work in the paint store therefore you are aligned with the people painting

[remote wadi]

Again the way gods work in 40k he always was a chaos god

Even if he didn't manifest yet

[celest dome]

With great effort, he tore his gaze away. ‘There is nothing there,’ he snarled, his teeth cracking against each other. His hearts stuttered, suddenly losing their rhythm. He pounded at his chest, as internal defibrillators sent a charge of electricity shrieking through him. The chirurgeon flooded his system with tranquillisers, and he tapped shakily at his vambrace. A secondary solution of mild stimulants joined the tranquillisers, stabilising him. He ignored the urge to look up. There was nothing there. Nothing at all. ‘There is nothing there,’ he said again, tasting blood. ‘There are no gods. Only cold stars and the void.’

The pressure increased. Something whispered, deep within him. It scratched at the walls of his mind, trying to catch his attention. He ignored it. ‘No gods,’ he repeated. ‘Random confluence of celestial phenomena. Interdimensional disasters, echoing outwards through our perceptions. I think, therefore I am. They do not, so they are not.’ He met the Quaestor’s bland gaze unflinchingly. ‘Gods are for the weak. I am not weak.’

The Quaestor nodded expectantly. ‘No.’
Bro so sure that god don't exist that he had to hit the crack pipe to avoid the question

[celest dome]

And that he is fully bound to it already

[lament shoal]

No he wasn't. He merely started off as an extremely powerful human psyker

[hallow saddle]

Slaanesh absolutely adores Bile

[storm jungle]

^

[hallow saddle]

he's so deluded that he has no idea how in thrall he is to slaanesh

[celest dome]

Slaanesh love those types of character the most

Even in Fantasy

[hallow saddle]

and he's trying to fill the galaxy with his perfect creatures and won't stop until the work is done (which it never will be)

[storm jungle]

people overplay the shit out of that scene where he "dabs on Slaanesh" when in reality the entire irony is he is absolutely enthralled to him lol

[hallow saddle]

yeah lol

[remote wadi]

Malacore talks about this

[storm jungle]

hes a genius whos deluded at everything and himself

[languid meadow]

Bro is coping so hard to not die on the spot

[remote wadi]

Big E turning into the dark king was always unavoidable

[lament shoal]

Malacore 🥀

[remote wadi]

He always was fated to be it

[languid meadow]

it's more like "fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck it's not real it's not real"

[remote wadi]

Even if he didn't want it

GW wrote the lore not me

[dapper gyro]

Bile likes to control others. He refuses to accept the fact that he is controlled.

Typical narcissist.

[lament shoal]

Its Malcador bro 😭

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/meth-jump-quit-run-escape-gif-16441636

[arctic talon]

He also admits he’s wrong at the end of the trilogy

On that shit

lol

[dapper gyro]

He wants to control the perfect Fulgrim for himself.

[arctic talon]

But people don’t read the bile books

So fucking whatever

[celest dome]

But that doesn't suite the narative that some have for him

[lament shoal]

Didn't Trazyn steal clone Fulgrim or am I making that up

[remote wadi]

I'm not saying bile doesn't feed slaneesh

[arctic talon]

Bile traded

[dapper gyro]

Which, the fulgrim clone is strong enough to resist.

[remote wadi]

I'm saying he has will and choice that makes him feed slaneesh

He isn't a slave

He choose this path

[celest dome]

Wasn't it for dna of the Emperor ?

[dapper gyro]

Yes, it was a trade.

[surreal nest]

Copium

[remote wadi]

Most humans in 40k didn't have choice

[lament shoal]

Gotcha

[remote wadi]

It's death for inquisition

[surreal nest]

Yes they did

[remote wadi]

Possession

[arctic talon]

It was a bunch of geneseed of various marines and also untouched EC geneseed

[dapper gyro]

Since Bile tried everything and cannot control clonegrim to his will, the clone has no value for him.

[remote wadi]

Empirum propaganda

[celest dome]

Then why did he go where the whole of his legion went ?

[remote wadi]

Cause they were the perfect lab rats

[arctic talon]

Reynolds deciding against his original plan for Clonegrim is tragic lol

I’m so sad he didn’t go with it

[surreal nest]

Um no, the idea that people CHOOSE to serve chaos to get away from humanity is a critique of the imperium not a compliment

[arctic talon]

Would have really nailed home the Christ like metaphor/atmosphere they had going on

For Bile in that book

[lament shoal]

This guy's constant misspelling of words and names shouldn't be making me as irrationally angry as it is 😭

[remote wadi]

Emperium is chaos

[arctic talon]

And also Clonegrim

[remote wadi]

There's no separation

Different god

Still chaos

[celest dome]

Dilara, can you blacklist a specific work for a specific person ?

[remote wadi]

Dark king is empirums god

[arctic talon]

Not yet

[surreal nest]

Thats not a thing right now

[arctic talon]

It’s like slaanesh, it hasn’t been born yet

[celest dome]

2 words actually

[arctic talon]

Even though it exists already

[celest dome]

Chaos and Empirium

[surreal nest]

Then he would just start spelling it right

[lament shoal]

Dude we keep telling you that this hasn't happened yet.

[celest dome]

That would be the point of it

[surreal nest]

Oh

[remote wadi]

That doenst change the fact they workshiping chaos

Even if not yet

They are

That doesn't change my arguments whatsoever

[surreal nest]

Well they arent

[lament shoal]

Bro how can they worship a chaos god that doesn't even exist yet 😭

[celest dome]

Ok, sure, if you want, but Bile isn't an atheist in current lore

[remote wadi]

Cause they keep feeding souls to the emperor

They are feeding a chaos god

[rocky gale]

Us

[remote wadi]

Straight up

Chaos gods are groups of souls with similar beliefs

Big E is a group of souls with similar beliefs

[surreal nest]

This is like reading a book back to front and treating the story like you already know all the answers though

[lament shoal]

But he's not a chaos god yet and the citizens don't think he is

[remote wadi]

He is by definition a chaos god

[arctic talon]

On god

[lament shoal]

REAL

[arctic talon]

Not yet

[celest dome]

No, Chaos Gods are parasite from outside of the setting that play games in the reality they invade

[arctic talon]

The emperor ascending into a chaos god would destroy him

He would cease to be

[arctic talon]

Bros ICE was too weak

[lament shoal]

Along with literally everyone else too. They wouldn't even have time to worship him

[arctic talon]

Skill issue

[remote wadi]

Also I'm not saying chaos isn't evil it is

[lament shoal]

Saving this

[arctic talon]

Enemies not having black ice that instantly fucking kills you makes 2077 net running a 9/10

lol

[remote wadi]

I'm just saying they all different flavours of chaos

The empire of mankind alike

[arctic talon]

My favorite part of setting up net infrastructure for my netrunner players

[rocky gale]

In the Eldar empire there were Eldar worshiping Slaanesh before the birth of Slaanesh destroyed the Eldar Empire. Chaos cares not for your concept of time

[arctic talon]

Curse of black ICE

[remote wadi]

And chaos undivided would be the mix of all flavours

[celest dome]

In a certain sense, it is like a stronger Battle Fantasy\End Time's Incarnate, being getting imbued by strong magic and being overwhelmed by it

[arctic talon]

There aren’t cults worshiping the dark king for now as far as we know

[dapper gyro]

Raiden from Metal Gear vs Adam Smasher

[near wasp]

They chaos gods have always existed since the warp is outside time

[remote wadi]

We call them inquisition

Just saying

[celest dome]

No, at least say the Imperial cult

[arctic talon]

That’s literally not true

For now

[surreal nest]

Even if the emperor is currently a chaos god in this spin off universe I dont see how this ties into chaos undivided by centrist

[arctic talon]

Unless you consider the plan that one branch has of killing the emperor

[celest dome]

Someone should force them to read and learn the lore

[lament shoal]

Pretty sure no one in the imperium even knows about the dark king save for maybe a couple of the primarchs

[surreal nest]

It might just be legendary ragebait though

[lament shoal]

That too lol

[celest dome]

No it is more that in the over universe the Dark King exist, but isn't accessing 40k as of yet, but if the Emperor ascend then it will fully

[celest dome]

Like it did through the Great Horned Rat in fantasy

[remote wadi]

They force you to workship the emperor or die

Aka they force you to workship the dark prince or die

Different name same entity

[arctic talon]

Can’t wait for EVO Riyadh/j

[dapper gyro]

Lol

2B gets a pass, funny.

[arctic talon]

She’s not bisexual

[surreal nest]

I thought this was soul calibur for some reason

[arctic talon]

Therefore she gets through

[arctic talon]

LOL

[remote wadi]

Cause centralism is the middle ground of all ideology

[dapper gyro]

She is an android though.

[arctic talon]

The selection frame is kinda similar

[surreal nest]

The second character reminded me of corrupted siegfried

[remote wadi]

And if all ideologies of mankind are extremes

Than the mix of them

Chaos undivided

Is the middle ground

[dapper gyro]

Android doesn't really have sex?

[surreal nest]

Idk why

[celest dome]

Interex, Leagues of Votaan, the Tau human, that independent sector that hate the Imperium and Chaos

[daring creek]

Andriods have sex?

[remote wadi]

Also that's why wh40k is grimdark

Even the centralism is evil

[celest dome]

So many human (stretching the definition) who actually aren't extremist

[lament shoal]

Anyone remember the nier automata collab with pubg?

[dapper gyro]

What?

[daring creek]

Nope

[lament shoal]

Yeah it happened lol

Straight up threw 2B in the game😭

[dapper gyro]

I wanted to ask why, but I also know the answer.

[remote wadi]

Don't they follow the empire of mankind ideology

U know extremism

[arctic talon]

2B goes in any normal game if you pay enough for her

lol

That’s what the creator of Nier said

He doesn’t care as long as the bag is big enough

[celest dome]

No

[dapper gyro]

Actually fair...

[celest dome]

Ans also to ascend in chaos Undivided you still have to do extreme acts, just for more than 1 god

Or without pledging yourself

[celest dome]

Honestly it is a really healthy way to look at things.
And how I see the 40k CoD crossover.

[lament shoal]

I still find it crazy that he wanted 9S and 2B to bang in the show and the show people straight up told him, the creator of these characters, that they wouldn't do that 😭

[celest dome]

Doesn't cost GW anything or changer stuff for the setting

[arctic talon]

Tbf they don’t in game, there’s just a ton of sexual tension instead LOL

[surreal nest]

Nier automata gets weirder the more I hear it vaguely described

[lament shoal]

Yeah but like, telling the CREATOR that HIS characters wouldn't do something is insane

[arctic talon]

It is

[arctic talon]

It’s pretty fun

lol

The creator is like, incredibly horny about both 2B and 9S

[surreal nest]

2B ruined soul calibur 6 for me so I refuse to play the game

[arctic talon]

LOL

Also fun fact

2B was going to be in strive

Before she was planned for Granblue lol

But since she got added to GBVSR I assume Arcsys decided it would be redundant for her to be in 2 of their games

[sour hornet]

Based???

[sour hornet]

It would be strange if random gangoons were running around with millions worth of lethal counter intrusion software in their heads

[remote wadi]

Actually to be a chaos undivided person you just have to not choose a god

[arctic talon]

I more so mean the corpo nerds

[remote wadi]

If you don't choose the emperor and choose to do Ur own will

You will be chaos undivided

[crystal forum]

i wish i could get my teeth cleaned every month instead of once a year

[celest dome]

You have to balance the gift and play the game, or accept that you will never rise.
Or pledge to Undivided specifically. As many do.

[crystal forum]

feels great

[remote wadi]

Not all chaos undivided are workshippers of gods even

Cypher

[sour hornet]

even then, black ice is really only common for very important people and corporate assets, its literally illegal, so people running black ice aren't people you're going to be running quickhacks on anyway

[nocturne crest]

Vashtorr / Belakor

[crystal forum]

that's not how that works

[sour hornet]

Opposite

You gotta please literally all the gods

[crystal forum]

there are independent people who don't get any help from chaos or the emperor

[celest dome]

One is his own faction, and the other tried to play all the gods (after having tried to please them all)

[crystal forum]

they're just rare because obv it's hard to survive 40k without help from a major faction or chaos

but tau do it fine

and if you say tau worship chaos i hate you

[celest dome]

And that GW doesn't really care enough to flesh out non-playing factions

[remote wadi]

Tau aren't human

I did specify humans

[crystal forum]

why humans specifically

[remote wadi]

Also the tau did manifest a god

[remote wadi]

Cause my point was chaos undivided is centralism

And no xenos are centralist

[sour hornet]

They dont even care about expanding playable factions either

[crystal forum]

i'm not even going to attempt this one

[storm jungle]

stop this!!!!

AAARGHHH

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[celest dome]

There are human in the Tau sphere

[celest dome]

this is offensive, send in more Slopmarines

[crystal forum]

sergeant slopmarius of the midmarines execusnoozers

imagine if 40k chaos had actual character like the fantasy one has

[daring creek]

cat gif

[sour hornet]

I sentence you to 300 hours of moderating chaos discourse 🫵 🥀 💔

[daring creek]

Chaos Discourse?

[sour hornet]

we've been arguing about worshipping chaos for the past several hours

its getting

tiring

[crystal forum]

i missed so much fun

[arctic talon]

Abbadon

[crystal forum]

all i saw was chaos undivided being a moderate position

[arctic talon]

AoS chaos is coolest

lol

[crystal forum]

apparently

[crystal forum]

space marines but evil?!??

[arctic talon]

Varanguard automatically make AoS cooler

[crystal forum]

so fucking tiring

[arctic talon]

Also I want an Archeon on horse mini

Like normal ass horse

For a smaller version of his current version

[crystal forum]

every time i learn about some sick ass fantasy chaos character i get one tiny bit closer to wanting to learn about the setting

aos too

im lumping it with fantasy

[sour hornet]

chaos gets one (1) nuanced character, the 40k community suffers another horus heresy, declares public fatwa against GW, threatens jihad

[daring creek]

Thinking about

Picking up that krieg book again

I haven't finished it unfortnately

[sour hornet]

which one?

[daring creek]

Krieg

[sour hornet]

dead man walking?

[daring creek]

lmao

[crystal forum]

the one called krieg

dumbass

[sour hornet]

Oh

[daring creek]

nah its fair

[sour hornet]

There's like 5

[crystal forum]

look at this idiot

[daring creek]

I was arounnnddd page 200

[crystal forum]

who mistook the krieg book for the 10 other krieg books with generic names

that nobody reads

[remote wadi]

Yes and they made a tau chaos god

[celest dome]

No they didn't

[daring creek]

Okay are we arguing about fan ocs or something

[sour hornet]

lmao

[daring creek]

[crystal forum]

reddit lore

[arctic talon]

Peak chaos

Varanguard sweep

Most comically expensive AoS squad for points

[crystal forum]

so much cooler than CSM

[celest dome]

AoS Chaos is the best depiction of Chaos

[sour hornet]

literally half of all 40k lore discourse ultimately comes down to this question

[daring creek]

HA

[arctic talon]

Each one is a chaos lord btw

lol

[daring creek]

.

now

[arctic talon]

Squad of pure fucking murder

[daring creek]

By "tau chaos god" do you mean the fucking ethereals??????????

[crystal forum]

i like that nurgle demon who likes making potions

what's his name

[celest dome]

Me on my way to swing an anvil around

[arctic talon]

Festus

[remote wadi]

Main article: Goddess T'au'va
The Goddess T'au'va is the personification of the Greater Good, who was formed by the T'au Empire's psychically inclined allied species' belief in the T'au's founding principle.[3a]

[sour hornet]

fantasy chaos is so much cooler because there are no lame space marines to eat up all the characters

[remote wadi]

It's on the wiki

[crystal forum]

even his name is cool

[celest dome]

Festus isn't a Daemon though

[remote wadi]

Even the tau have a chaos god

[crystal forum]

oh

[daring creek]

Okay you're probably talking about the ethereals

[celest dome]

Not even a Daemon Prince iirc

[crystal forum]

he's still cool

[remote wadi]

No I'm talking an actual warp entity

[celest dome]

God >< Chaos God

[crystal forum]

which is funny since i hate nurgle in 40k

[daring creek]

Lets not make a 7th chaos god pls

[remote wadi]

It is recent tho

[celest dome]

There are more than 9

For Chaos Gods

[daring creek]

[remote wadi]

And I don't think the tau god is there to stay

[arctic talon]

Festus might be brought back as a prince eventually

[celest dome]

It is not a Chaos gods is doesn't matter.

[arctic talon]

But it’s unclesr

His sheet is in legends rn

[remote wadi]

Since the tau are trying to kill the other species that join them that potentially made it

[arctic talon]

And his lore is vague

[near wasp]

Once a god exists it doesn't unexist

[celest dome]

Each of the Champion of Chaos should get some updated Daemon Prince mini for AoS tbh

[arctic talon]

Cursling might be an issue

But valkia is def coming back imo

[remote wadi]

So yeah only chaos undivided doesn't have one single god yet

[lament shoal]

You shouldn't. We tried several times and it didn't work

[arctic talon]

Sigvald is back already

[remote wadi]

Besides necrons

[crystal forum]

what

[celest dome]

Chaos gods yes, normal "gods" not stated

[remote wadi]

But necrons are on god level themselves

[crystal forum]

necrons are literally anti warp

[wintry cloud]

Leaks say so, and the new age of sigmar box may be leading to the maggotkin getting a big release

[surreal nest]

God I love ragebait

[wintry cloud]

I hope so

[storm jungle]

let my maggotboys be free

[arctic talon]

There’s pestigors and stuff

So maybe

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-worm-dance-gif-23697519

[arctic talon]

I hope the blightlord replacement rumor doesn’t come true

Bcs the current ones look excellent

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-the-taken-king-worm-hive-krill-gif-26883060

[wintry cloud]

It may not be a bad thing, with the AoS designers they may look even better

Even so, you always have your old models

[arctic talon]

True

Well I don’t have the old ones

I don’t play Maggotkin

[wintry cloud]

Oh.
Lmao

[arctic talon]

I just like staring at other peoples plastic

[sour hornet]

I miss D1

[arctic talon]

Lmao

I play sylvaneth

I’m a fuckin tree

[nocturne crest]

So you're like Poison Ivy?

[crystal forum]

he's not 40k related which is punishable by lethal injection

[arctic talon]

No

[wintry cloud]

We should play a game sometime (im pretty new, and slow to play) but I love S2D

[arctic talon]

Poison ivy ain’t for shit on my trees overgrowth

[celest dome]

Do you prefer Manthing ?

[arctic talon]

Idk

Poison ivy is actually my favorite plant based eco terrorist for comics

lol

Sylvaneth are just comically good at swallowing buildings

[crystal forum]

oh the batman villain

[arctic talon]

Overgrowth is my favorite mechanic

I love instantly demolishing any faction terrain

[crystal forum]

i thought there was a plant called poison ivy in aos

[arctic talon]

And killing everyone inside it

[wintry cloud]

I love staring at Archaons comically large model as it looms over the battlefield

[arctic talon]

Prolly exists lol

[wintry cloud]

Also varanguard kill anything and everything

My babies

[celest dome]

Poison ivy is from those old types of villains that you start to see as being fully right in today's light

[crystal forum]

she's also woman

which gives mega fanservice points

[wintry cloud]

Gooned out

[crystal forum]

why is there even a bio terrorist in gotham city anyways

[near wasp]

Poison ivy and Harley Quinn are peak

[crystal forum]

it's like greenpeace doing a save the whales advert in the middle of new york city

[remote wadi]

Cause she wants to make plants in a city

[wintry cloud]

Cause capitalism destroys nature

[crystal forum]

it's a concrete jungle

wouldn't she be op if she just went to the amazon and used the rainforest to kill brazil

[remote wadi]

I mean so far the arguments presented were not evidence of my argument not being correct just tagents to it but I'm not getting into it

[vagrant fox]

predator concrete jungle mentioned

[remote wadi]

We moved on

[celest dome]

Heavy polluant industry in Gotham

[crystal forum]

her power is controlling plants right

like i said

[arctic talon]

Tbf she’s mentally ill

[crystal forum]

go to amazon rainforest, kill everything

reclaim world

[arctic talon]

Like she’s actually got mental issues, I doubt she’s thinking purely logically

When it comes to her plans

lol

[crystal forum]

i like her in that tv show

the one that still hasn't gotten a third season i think

[celest dome]

The animated one ?

[crystal forum]

oh wait it did

[arctic talon]

I’m still sad the old warcry warbands are gone

[crystal forum]

5 seasons shit

[arctic talon]

For AoS chaos

[crystal forum]

i need to catch up

[crystal forum]

yeah

[languid meadow]

People forget the Ivy is a doctor

yeah she's also insane but like

[arctic talon]

She is

[languid meadow]

she's pretty damn smart

[arctic talon]

But that doesn’t mean she’s not also insane

[wintry cloud]

Same

[crystal forum]

what if she's sane in an insane world

[arctic talon]

Is she even a villain rn in DC

lol

I don’t read many comics

All my enjoyment is surface level

[wintry cloud]

Last i saw of her she had a anti hero vibe

I think

[crystal forum]

im guessing the comics support the pro nature thing but dont condone the violence part

[celest dome]

Quite a few of DC villains have more diplomas than the heroes

[arctic talon]

Edgy antihero’s/villains are in rn

Lol

They’ve always been in since the 2000s

[crystal forum]

that's the entirety of the punisher

[arctic talon]

For even more now

[crystal forum]

punisher has been at it since the 80's

[arctic talon]

Yeah but it wasn’t as popular until more recent years I’d say

Where everyone wants some edge

[raven stone]

So anyone seen the cray cray comments about how some of the new Marine heads

Look a bit

Feminine

[spring cairn]

yeah

tagged with the cartoon

uh

space king yeah

[arctic talon]

They’re like

Supposed to be Asian

lol

[spring cairn]

they're space marine heads

I see nothing remarkable

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[raven stone]

I can already hear a certain segment of the fanbase losing their head.
And if they are meant to be Asian…that…is still off lol

[arctic talon]

They look normal to me lol

[raven stone]

You could just to skin tones anyways.

[arctic talon]

They’re just marine heads

Tbh

[spring cairn]

they look like turbo roided meathead

[arctic talon]

They look a bit fucking weird

But marines are supposed to look fucking weird most of the time

[raven stone]

Heh

[lament shoal]

No they're asian looking

[arctic talon]

They’re like vaguely east Asian looking to me

Personally lol

[lament shoal]

I like them honestly

[arctic talon]

I don’t like the head sprue because there’s not enough helmets smh

But I’m indifferent to them as a whole

I just prefer helmets

[lament shoal]

Gives some nice variety for the marine faces

[daring creek]

Krieg is a nice book

[lament shoal]

Ngl a lot of the previous helmetless marine heads looked identical to each other

[daring creek]

I would really like to see and speak to these imperium glazers though. Because when I read that Imperial Refugees are being cared for at the merest bare minimum only to serve as slaves again after they've been bombarded by their own formerly loyalist half of the planet, does not make me think Corpse worshippers are the good guys.

Not to mention any who complain about poor life conditions literally being taken out back.

Oh yeah, and the fucking Whipping Servitor

Jfc lmfao

These are literally perpetually tortured man slaves

[lament shoal]

Imperium apologists are either severely uneducated on the lore or bigots

Sometimes its both

[daring creek]

I think they're severely under educated

Because I think

if you read just one book, like Krieg, you'll understand.

OH YEAH

[lament shoal]

Yeah they're evil lol

[daring creek]

and unknown to you, you are at massive goddamn threat of absolute annhilation by your own side

You will be turned into DUST

christ

[lament shoal]

Never understood how these people couldn't get that its possible to like a faction while also acknowledging that its evil af

[daring creek]

Dude not even the generals are happy

they're all miserable

[lament shoal]

And I'm saying this as someone who has the salamanders and guard as two of my favorite factions

[daring creek]

Even the Chairman and his fatass suffered severely.

In his own gluttony as well.

[crystal forum]

holy shit you can equip lasguns on space marine black shields

[daring creek]

I just do not fucking get it man I want to understand these people.

[lament shoal]

Kitbash or is this actually part of the rules?

[daring creek]

The best fate you can have in the 40k universe is an instant death before you even realize it

unless not

Cuz warp shit

[crystal forum]

we love scrappy HH units

[daring creek]

(idk how the warp works indepth)

[crystal forum]

how do you even manage to kitbash a lasgun on a space marine

im sure some people can

[lament shoal]

Techmarine with lasguns mounted on all his mechadendrites

[crystal forum]

I JUST REALIZED THEY COUNT AS PISTOLS

[daring creek]

shoulder mounted boltys when

[crystal forum]

omg that's so fucking funny

using a lasgun in melee combat

[daring creek]

Is that a bad idea

[crystal forum]

pistols in tabletop are melee weapons with range

[daring creek]

Makes sense

[crystal forum]

so essentially the space marine is using the lasgun one handed while cleaving with a chainsword

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-punch-punched-gif-5550287674654126274

[crystal forum]

which sounds awesome

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-arc-troppers-vs-battle-droids-mk2-gif-18258595

[daring creek]

I should watch star wars

I never saw star wars in my life

[lament shoal]

Funny enough this one great artist reanimated this scene with space wolves and tryanids in the same art style

Makes me want an animated 40k show by genndy tartakovsky so bad

[daring creek]

.

I feel like I know that name

Oh.

Oh heck.

[lament shoal]

He created samurai jack and primal

[daring creek]

That wouldn't be bad.

[crystal forum]

i want to see a space marine blasting people with two autoguns now

[daring creek]

And Dexters lab

[lament shoal]

As well as the clone wars show in the gif

[daring creek]

and the dog movie

[sour hornet]

The what

[daring creek]

They don't know

[crystal forum]

also there's a black shield thing made specifically for iron hands

[daring creek]

And kinda best if you don't I don't think even I could handle the raunchness of that movie lmfao

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/wildly-paranoid-look-around-captain90s-gif-26042439

[crystal forum]

which just gives me more reasons to make my iron hands into black shields

they're already black anyways

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if they just shave the trigger guards for a space marine to use a las gun.

[crystal forum]

this one is for all the people asking why space marines dont use lasguns

[sudden compass]

Yo lord nerds

[median star]

wth u didn say u were based and also had iron hands

[sour hornet]

What

[sudden compass]

Do psykers get any wonky guns that only they use in lore?

[celest dome]

Psy Bolters

[sour hornet]

sorta

[sudden compass]

Or like gauntlets to better focus and use their warp powers?

[remote wadi]

That's what I've been saying the entire time goddamit

[sudden compass]

Go on

[sour hornet]

yes

[celest dome]

But they're too valuable for us to get

[sudden compass]

Damn

[celest dome]

Basically Bolter with Force Bolts

[sudden compass]

GW really just out here hoe'in us

[sour hornet]

Stuff like this is commonly grafted into their arms and limbs rather than worn.

[sudden compass]

Figures

[sour hornet]

40k is essentially 10,000 years of continuous hoeing, yes

[celest dome]

Closest to gauntlets would be Psychoteric blades and Serpent Fangs

[crystal forum]

i literally modelled a custom iron hands engraved accelerator cannon for my fellblade

i love HH iron hands

[remote wadi]

The best destiny in 40k is not being there

[sudden compass]

The serpent fangs lool really cool actually

[celest dome]

Don't think there is any such thing we have known mini of

[lament shoal]

Artist is llera.hugo on instagram

[median star]

post post post

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon can space marines dual wield pistol type weapons in the new HH editoon

[sudden compass]

Your contributions to the cause will be noted

[sour hornet]

Check out books covering primaris psykers. Also Dark Heresy rulebooks cover psyker implants and general augmetics.

[celest dome]

Serpent Fangs in theory are just Force, but the Psychoteric blade is able to strain in and out of reality, and is able to poison iirc

[lament shoal]

No one was refuting you on that dawg

No shit the imperium is evil

[celest dome]

But those aren't meant to focus their power through like they'd do on a Force weapon, but rather something like the Psychic Hood that make them more stable no ?

[hollow lantern]

Non evil factions simply do not exist in 40k tbh

[celest dome]

Tau are the least

[hollow lantern]

Do you just mean generic marines or special units?

[celest dome]

Then there are smaller factions that don't really matter anyway

[sour hornet]

They serve as both, effectively. They serve as a safe way to conduit energy. Think of psychic hoods and psychic augmetics as a sort of sluice gate.

[hollow lantern]

The least still being rampant imperialists who will kill you for not joining.

[crystal forum]

i have not assembled it yet but it says hammer of medusa

[median star]

peak

[sour hornet]

People will respond to "40k has no good guys" by posting the Imperium — who canonically have servitorized sex slaves, generational birth debt, and encouraged lynching of 'undesirables'.

[crystal forum]

generic

[hollow lantern]

That's their problem

[hollow lantern]

Lemme check rq but I do not think so

[crystal forum]

i need dual wielded autoguns

so badly

[hollow lantern]

Oh for blackshields?

[lament shoal]

Mfs will see you list these things and respond with "still better than the alternatives"

[crystal forum]

yeah!!!

[hollow lantern]

Id be totally unsure on that tbh

I still havent looked at those

Sorry

[crystal forum]

lasguns as pistols

[lament shoal]

I LOVE AUTOGUNS RAAAH

[crystal forum]

HEY HERETIC MEET MY FRIENDS H&K

[lament shoal]

How many downvotes do you think I'll get in r/grimdank for posting a meme shitting on lasguns in favor of autoguns

[crystal forum]

you have one??

i fucking love autoguns

[vagrant fox]

don't they love slop on grimdank

[lament shoal]

Nah its just a hypothetical

I mean I could make one lol

[crystal forum]

i'd equip an entire regiment with autoguns

please

it would make me happy

[hollow lantern]

Tbf Deldar do exist and they are an alternative

[remote wadi]

I mean why would a space marine need to to dual wield autoguns

[lament shoal]

BECAUSE ITS COOL

Rule of cool babyyyy

[hollow lantern]

Because you're blackshields during the heresy and you don't have real supply lines or equipment anymore

[crystal forum]

if it's a rule somewhere that i can exchange a melee for a pistol then that means i can have two autoguns

[hollow lantern]

So you're looting

[crystal forum]

and i just want to see a space marine with two gats

[remote wadi]

Psykers not taking Ur autogun shoots cause they said no

[crystal forum]

USING THEM IN MELEE

[remote wadi]

[crystal forum]

BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED PISTOLS

how fucking cool is that

[hollow lantern]

Tbf I think your CCWs hit harder than autoguns

[storm jungle]

Why the fuck do space marines wield literal cancer cannons

[crystal forum]

idc how viable it is

[storm jungle]

BECAUSE ITS COOL

[remote wadi]

Ok I get it

But hear me out

[hollow lantern]

Love me rad missile launcher

[remote wadi]

Laser swords

[crystal forum]

this has pushed me

[hollow lantern]

Love me 3 inch death template

[crystal forum]

my iron hands are now blackshields

the choice is made

it doesn't really change much since they already dont have a primarch

and i was already painting them to my own liking

[hollow lantern]

HH 3.0 scares me so I don't play it now

[crystal forum]

same

no more fun equipment

my grav shredder pistols are just plasma pistols now

[hollow lantern]

Consider that the IH Gravitat was one of the single most hated units to run against

[crystal forum]

that was a while ago no?

grav hasn't been good for a while

[hollow lantern]

It was for the entirety of 2.0

[crystal forum]

is there even any plastic grav guns

i had to buy terrible quality resin ones that GW paid me back 10$ for because i bought like the last one

[hollow lantern]

Dont know tbh

Not an IH player

[crystal forum]

what chapter

[hollow lantern]

For 30k? RG

[crystal forum]

woah based alert

[lament shoal]

Do the arbites use autoguns

[spring cairn]

if they want to

they can

[hollow lantern]

Honestly I kinda doubt it but I'm sure it's come up in an instance somewhere

[spring cairn]

so

[lament shoal]

Thx

[hollow lantern]

The Locke Pattern bolters are made with them in mind

[spring cairn]

if they can in dt it's gw approved

[sour hornet]

This is pretty fair space marine behavior.

[hollow lantern]

Like a lot of Corax's interactions with The Emperor

[sour hornet]

Yes.

[crystal forum]

they do use heavy stubbers

[sour hornet]

Arbites have a wargear section and it has a pretty large variety of weaponry.

[crystal forum]

fishig uses one in eisenhorn

and that's why we love him

[sour hornet]

Also true

[crystal forum]

[sour hornet]

grimdank goes beyond loving slop, they are the slop manufactorum

[crystal forum]

RG being unironically the coolest shattered legion

[sour hornet]

Real

I am a raven guard fan

[crystal forum]

makes you wonder why they went for salamanders for 3rd edition

[storm jungle]

Shat-out Legion* 🫡

[hollow lantern]

Tbh I'm amazed they picked any Shattered Legion for a box cover

[crystal forum]

same

[hollow lantern]

They're normally bastard children

[storm jungle]

if they are still wearing recognizable loyalist colors then its = $$$

[crystal forum]

i guess it's because of the connection between saturnine and salamanders?

[hollow lantern]

I think it's neat the modern iteration of the RG were born on Istvaan

[storm jungle]

its very much due to Salamanders being iconic from a marketing standpoint

lore largely holds no sway in decisions like this

[crystal forum]

are they? you barely hear of them in HH

and IF are the posterchild of HH

[dapper gyro]

Salamander is kind of The Green marines.

[sacred bluff]

is jay gay

[dapper gyro]

While if you want black, the Black Templar is way more popular.

[crystal forum]

possibly

[arctic talon]

Blackshields can dual wield some guns by default yes

[crystal forum]

OH MY GOD DUEL WIELDED AUTOGUN AS PISTOLS

[arctic talon]

Yes

The blicky

[crystal forum]

3rd edition saved

[arctic talon]

You do lock yourself out of bolters and some other guns entirely though

Which was the same as 2e

[crystal forum]

who cares

two autoguns in melee

PAPAPAPAPAP

[crystal forum]

why pick laspistol over lasgun though

the lasgun is straight up better

is there any reason to pick the pistols

[hollow lantern]

Tbf

If you're picking this RoW its for fluff

Not cause like, its what's better lol

[crystal forum]

lol

i do like that it has the full range of the lasgun though

[arctic talon]

Cheaper

Laspistol is cheaper then the lasgun

[crystal forum]

like the maniac running forward with the lasgun one handed can hit targets better than a guardsman

[hollow lantern]

Gotta save that presumably 1 point

You like 3.0 Elite?

I still havent tried it proper

[crystal forum]

how big is a detachment again

is that my entire army

[arctic talon]

Not really, I like some stuff from it

But I don’t like it very much overall

[hollow lantern]

Thats what I figured

[valid needle]

More like a spectrum of evil

[hollow lantern]

Yeah, lotta spectrums involved in 40k

[arctic talon]

To say I hate it would be wrong

[crystal forum]

so does this mean i have to remove bolters from all space marines in my army if i just want one guy with two autoguns

that kinda sucks

[hollow lantern]

Strikes me as worse than 2.0 overall

Been looking into KT lately tbh

Worried GW will uh

Yk

Be GW about that too

[arctic talon]

Imo the status tokens are cool, I hate what they did with mechanicum’s army building.

[hollow lantern]

I heard mech got hordier

Time to buy more tech thralls buddy

[arctic talon]

It sells well so they don’t whfb it.

It didn’t

Thralls are awful. I am not paying 100 points for 10 thralls GW lol

Why the fuck would I ever pay that much for tech thralls

[hollow lantern]

Do Mech and Aux still feel anemic rules wise?

[crystal forum]

i feel like solar auxilia are intentionally made shit

because space marine game

[queen laurel]

Wolf great news I played 2xko and won a few matches

Bad news, I might be staying on pulse combos for a while

[arctic talon]

Aux got AP3 battle cannons back so they can kill marines efficiently now

Mechanicum is just really fucking weird

[hollow lantern]

Thats pretty sick actually

[crystal forum]

i wonder if militia got updated

and if they're still 90% fluff (i love)

[arctic talon]

Auxillia got made shit in 2e due to GW being afraid of AP3 instagibbing marines in 1e. So pretty much all AP3 was nerfed

The issue is blast chargers and battle cannons are both AP3

[arctic talon]

Yes but they’re less customizable now

[crystal forum]

god damnit why

[arctic talon]

You have “themes” more so now

[hollow lantern]

Boo

Can you still bring like 6 discounted LRs?

[crystal forum]

it's literally supposed to be the "whatever shit i have lying in my kitbash bin" army

[arctic talon]

you have siloed options like the black shield stuff

They still have a ton of options

[valid needle]

No they are not lol

[arctic talon]

No more mixing mining lasers and land raiders unfortunately lol

[valid needle]

Tau are imperium wearing blue

[crystal forum]

have some units been added

[remote wadi]

If HH is good enought I'm just gonna make an alpha legion

[crystal forum]

im ok with themes

[remote wadi]

Nah

They have caste division

[arctic talon]

Yesnt?

[crystal forum]

no more relics of dark age???

bruh that was the funniest rule

[remote wadi]

Tau engineers don't have to deal with non engineers

That's why they progress so fast

[valid needle]

I don’t know what this has to do with them being evil but ok

[crystal forum]

"give these cultists a fucking land raider and remove all its aiming"

my fav

[arctic talon]

You still can you just can’t do stuff like running a bunch of totally not Goliath rockgrinders and the cheapest infantry alive with them

[remote wadi]

Oh tau evil is that only the actual earth tau get peacefull lifes

The rest are re educated

And forced into labor

Earth tau just engineer

[crystal forum]

alright ye if it removes annoying army building it's fine

[remote wadi]

They not leaders

[arctic talon]

But you do get new goofy shit like yeah this Miltia are a bunch of miners hopped up on combat drugs ready to kill some marines

But if you pick the miner specific theme you lock yourself out of a lot of heavier armor and heavy weapons.

[opaque coyote]

T'au Engineers don't have to deal with PT meetings or things that could've easily been a fucking email/text

[valid needle]

Don’t try sell me on tau I’m already invested in one moustache twirlingly evil empire.

[remote wadi]

Exactly

The engineer heaven

[opaque coyote]

10/10

[arctic talon]

Like you can run power picks on squad SGTs but no more power swords/axes/mauls.

[opaque coyote]

No wonder they innovate so quickly

[remote wadi]

Exactly

[crystal forum]

is this the 3.0 version? https://assets.warhammer-community.com/horusheresy_legaciesoftheageofdarkness_imperialismilitia_eng_24.09-tyq53ht49b.pdf

[remote wadi]

I have a tau army and they are my favourite but chaos got me with the tau nerfs

[arctic talon]

Check warcom downloads. I’m somewhere with super shit internet rn

Also some weird stuff.

If you want special issue ammo shotguns you must run a specific thing lol

[remote wadi]

Tau are still the best shooting faction it's just that shooting in 10th edition isn't as good

Also chaos marines have dark pact and versatility

And unfair bullshit

Like invulnerable saves and straight reject dmg

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon holy shit you can give las locks to all your militia

tech thralls 2.0

[raven stone]

Militia is still overpriced

[arctic talon]

Tau ironically have very anemic shooting this edition

[crystal forum]

ye it's not made for casual players imo

it's for really dedicated army builders

[remote wadi]

Unless Ur playing comp just print proxies man

(or if you like the original one)

[raven stone]

I will be honest at this point I am just collecting as hobby.
Forget playing, GW can’t do rules for shit

[raven stone]

Fair, though was referring to points wise

[crystal forum]

i like militia as an army you can throw whatever units you have in

including munda units

[remote wadi]

Oh ok

[raven stone]

Take both the Surivivors of Dark Age and the one that allows Ad Mech vehicles

[crystal forum]

YES

[raven stone]

Your militia collection actually looks very … teethy

Lol

[crystal forum]

and equip all your giys with the shittiest guns

[remote wadi]

Also gw can balance
Kill team and combat patrols

[crystal forum]

so it's cavemen with modern tanks

[remote wadi]

The actual factions Welp just play the random bs

[raven stone]

Ok true, small scale they do get it right, I concede

They just can’t scale up for their life

[crystal forum]

just play HH for fluff

who cares

[remote wadi]

To be fair having bile and abbadon in the same army isn't fair

It's legit free dark pacts and a straight up you did what dmg

0 exactly

[raven stone]

Ouch

[crystal forum]

you can run militia as a proto arbites

GW is even putting arbites in HH now

they're everywhere

[raven stone]

I mean, if you run it with the provenance giving Carapce armour

Arbites in all but name

[crystal forum]

i like the new militia rules

they're more streamlined

giving gene crafted army needle guns is a weird choice though

like where's the correlation there

[spring cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1278734919253757992/1425955318692712549/7fxkzmuv65uf1.png?ex=68e977e0&is=68e82660&hm=7bc4bf61b807182ce2134a4cdebbd3ba12fdb6e7970c84eb21bc5772bf3046bc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[lament shoal]

@crystal forum hope you like it lol

[crystal forum]

saved

thank you friend

[lament shoal]

No problem

[celest dome]

The Castlevania series has such great character design

[raven stone]

The writers ran out of ideas lol

[crystal forum]

it does feel that way

lol

previous edition gene crafted army was funny

[raven stone]

At a stretch it’s saying gene scientists going to war

But that’s it

[crystal forum]

you rolled a dice at the start of the match and if you're lucky all your guys are chads

if you're unlucky your entire army are crippled

for the whole match

[lament shoal]

Updated version

[raven stone]

I will do you one better

get Old World Empire musket squads

To act as your levies.

Autoguns are for the Grenadiers of the Militia.

[dapper gyro]

Musket is a little excessive. Bolt action guns would be ok.

[crystal forum]

aw you cant give militia a land raider anymore

only rhino and terax

[raven stone]

Eh? I thought you can as Heavy Transports…?

[dapper gyro]

The fire power increase between bolt action and any kind of automatic weapon is insane.

[spring cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1243738325710405762/1425949379121909851/image.png?ex=68e97258&is=68e820d8&hm=1248718bad703e11e73fe167f40053d38b64a6bb1bcdc143607a2d9907789f9a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[lament shoal]

PROPULSION!!!!!

[raven stone]

Land Raider Carrier, says right there.

[crystal forum]

im dumb and/or blind

[raven stone]

So yea, if collecting for collecting’s sake only

Ignore any stat boosting provenances

[crystal forum]

yeah that's the whole point of the army

[raven stone]

Take both SoDA and the Ad Mech vehicle one

[crystal forum]

for old players who have some ancient models lying around

like a bunch of units are straight up old forge world models

[raven stone]

Talking of which

Even though GW will probably never amend legends to give Ostromandeus any points value

They actually remembered to clarify he does, indeed, have an inferno pistol

[crystal forum]

W

[raven stone]

Yea, I a, happy enough

One less conversion bit to do for him

Still going to swap out the head and arm though

Head just because I can

Arm because I think the exposed arm with glove is a bit silly on an otherwise banger model

(The sword arm)

[crystal forum]

wait the WH+ mini?

[pulsar stump]

This guy doesn't get much attention from GW because he can't be turned into a Slopmaris.

[crystal forum]

they put that thing in legends?

[raven stone]

Cassius is likely in legends freeze due to GW trying to move on from UltraSlop to PrimariSlop

meaning can’t have too many Ultra characters

[pulsar stump]

Therein lies the problem.
He's neither of those.

[languid meadow]

@arctic talon have you been following invincible vs stuff?

[crystal forum]

unrelated but the fact that i could sell my WH+ mini and buy a year subscription with

and keep this going probably forever

is so fucking funny

[pulsar stump]

Cassius is a unique instance of an Ultramarine that avoided getting Smurfed by Matt Ward.

[raven stone]

Well he got linked to Deathwatch

[crystal forum]

why are people paying 100$ for a fucking single model???

[raven stone]

Because they want it really badly.

[pulsar stump]

Young Lil Psycho Cassius did.

[crystal forum]

the WH+ sub was less than that

people are stupid

[pulsar stump]

The 60% bionics "I'm Literally Just Hatemonger In Black Armour" Cassius is kind of just... sat in the background of the setting.

Because that thing is a 2nd edition Space Marine

[sour hornet]

Tau are all bald, right?

[pulsar stump]

No.

[sour hornet]

Oh?

[pulsar stump]

Fire Caste just shave their heads for cultural reasons.

Tau do tend to go bald by the age of 40 or 50 though.

[crystal forum]

https://preview.redd.it/is-it-possible-for-the-tau-to-be-corrupted-by-chaos-v0-nyxwyj5twfca1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cb5eacdd16f608e8b3bd4397c71476fd7ec310f9

hair

[storm jungle]

He doesn't because largely nobody gives a shit about him.

Like many of the ultramarine extra-fluff characters.

[pulsar stump]

What a Reddit thing to say.

[sour hornet]

?

[crystal forum]

if a character hasn't been primaris'd that just means nobody gives a shit about them

[sour hornet]

What does this even mean

[pulsar stump]

It means what it means.

[storm jungle]

I mean it is coming from the expert, i.e you

so high praise thank you

[pulsar stump]

Being identified as a Redditor isn't praise.
If it were up to me, they'd all be stoned.

[storm jungle]

Thats the joke

anyway

[sour hornet]

Perception roll failed

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[sour hornet]

🥀 💔

[storm jungle]

yeah that too

[young pecan]

Thank you for the gold, kind stranger

[storm jungle]

Also second thing, its 2025, can we get over Ward already.

[crystal forum]

not enough speech skill

[storm jungle]

genuinely makes me feel old

[sour hornet]

No

[pulsar stump]

No it doesn't.
Don't lie.

[sour hornet]

The references will continue until you're old enough to start considering retirement options

[storm jungle]

It does. Im being honest.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

people will literally post the shittiest firstborn model known to man and say it proves primaris suck

[pulsar stump]

You've not been around long enough for the Ward Fatigue to set in.

[storm jungle]

Im literally 31 years old dude lol

[pulsar stump]

And?

[storm jungle]

I have seen it. Its unwarranted and just another case of showing how stupid this fanbase is

let it go already

[pulsar stump]

"Unwarranted"

[storm jungle]

Correct.

[pulsar stump]

You really are new, aren't you.

[sour hornet]

Bro is js arguing to argue

[storm jungle]

Oh my god

[storm jungle]

every time too