#40k-lore-chat

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tough haven
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Probably like an oligarchy

storm jungle
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You calling tau communists already invalidates your opinion on the faction

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I need to see your BOSS.

daring creek
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Yeah the Tau sounds pretty good rn

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Sounds VERY good rn

remote wadi
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I mean in pratice communism doesn't work like theory

lament shoal
storm jungle
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Lmao I know

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thats what makes it worse

remote wadi
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Also I would like to be born tau

daring creek
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Same but that has a few downsides

remote wadi
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Cause like the other options are far worst

daring creek
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Tfw no chemical castration

remote wadi
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If u are born tau you don't get castrated

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That's for humans

daring creek
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YEAH

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it sucks :/

lament shoal
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You get budget mind controlled instead

vagrant fox
remote wadi
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U have to understand between working 16 hours shifts for a war I didn't ask for

celest dome
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Being born as an Eldar is imo the most favourable thing

remote wadi
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And working 10 h shifts on something I was born into for the greater good

daring creek
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Okay here's several things I understand

remote wadi
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I choose the greater good

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Also no chaos temptation

daring creek
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If I get captured by the Tau, I get:

Hypnotized
Castrated
Forced into caste labor

What else?

remote wadi
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I'll be honest tzeentch just had to give one book

lament shoal
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The greater good is a lie that serves as nothing but a method the ethereals use to control their subjects

remote wadi
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One book and I'm done

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I'm now a cultist

daring creek
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What else happens

remote wadi
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And they all fast at inventing

daring creek
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Also 10 hours a day doesn't sound bad in the context of 40

remote wadi
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Yet they all choose the greater good

lament shoal
remote wadi
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I mean the absolute majority

daring creek
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16 hours ain't even bad

celest dome
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Didn't that blade Tau leave the Greater Good ?

daring creek
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WOW

remote wadi
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His sword is chaos based

queen laurel
# celest dome Being born as an Eldar is imo the most favourable thing

i'm gonna be honest being Orks is probably your best bet

Because you are literally born to fight and the universe you are being born in is literally a fighting pit in heaven, you are purpose built to be a war driven monster, so you can be a bad guy and have fun, also you reincarnate

daring creek
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16 hours of working for the greater good and 8 hours of sleep

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That is fucking amazing.

lament shoal
queen laurel
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It doesn't take a lot to be content as an ork just a lot of things to kill and fight

daring creek
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Atleast I get to choose man.

queen laurel
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yes you are morally speaking a bastard but hey you are happy

lament shoal
daring creek
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Go die in a war horribly or be enslaved

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Hm

remote wadi
daring creek
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What is life like for enslaved humans

remote wadi
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Some of them got away from the tau empire due to war

lament shoal
remote wadi
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And they go back to it

young pecan
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I like the idea that an ork being tortured is in severe misery not because they're being tortured but because they're being forced to be still away from fighting

remote wadi
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By option

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Yes it could be Stockholm syndrome

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But at least its for survival

remote wadi
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Also if Ur born as an earth cast you're never at war

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Ur just an engineer tchilling

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It's a great life

daring creek
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Trve

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Plus theres a chance I get treated bad by tau women

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The downside is

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I don't think any of them will reach human standard hag status

remote wadi
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Tau advance technology faster cause their engineers are literally tchilling and creative

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Surrounded by other engineers

daring creek
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Tau can't live past their 40s right

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Are there any in their 50s

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Please.

remote wadi
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If Ur a fire cast Welp it is what it is

remote wadi
daring creek
remote wadi
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But he has a sword that steals lifetimes

daring creek
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Oh shit

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Nice

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But why does the 40k universe need to be so awful

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You can't even have old tau women

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:/

remote wadi
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It's cause the tau don't enhance themselves yet

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They just wear mechas

daring creek
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Cring

lament shoal
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Lots of mistakes were made

remote wadi
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Also according the og old ones lore the tau are the superior species

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Cause they are the phase 5 of creation

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Humans are phase 4

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Humans were made as weapon against chaos

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And they are what empowers chaos

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Tau are just the tau

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Just there to live and die

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The old ones planned the tau as the actual surviving species the humans are just fuel for the emperor to end chaos

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At least according to a necron that used a human body

daring creek
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And this is where the 5th god comes into play

vital ginkgo
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What is this symbol? A version of the crux terminatus?

remote wadi
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Malice?

daring creek
lament shoal
valid needle
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@storm jungle 💀

queen laurel
valid needle
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Mfs losing their minds

remote wadi
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I mean we already kinda have 8 gods

queen laurel
remote wadi
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We just know 5 of them

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Peterabo is technically a deamon of a still not manifested god

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Unless they wanna make him that god

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Or retcon it

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Or chaos undivided god can be the man himself abadon

lament shoal
rose thorn
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Holy shit

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AOS VERMINTIDE

valid needle
remote wadi
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But that's age of sigmar

rose thorn
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PESTIGORS

remote wadi
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Man I want more Warhammer 40k coop options

rose thorn
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Also first look at cities of sigmar duardin

queen laurel
vital ginkgo
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Just a touch

remote wadi
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They have an organ just for that

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Salamander geneseed just put so much base melanin that it can't change it

vital ginkgo
vital ginkgo
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That's funny

lament shoal
valid needle
vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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Honestly I like the Warhammer take on race

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It's the truth it's just an adaptation to environment

vital ginkgo
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Micro Evolution

valid needle
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Like a chapter that only recruits from one world

vital ginkgo
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Space wolves

valid needle
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Space wolves maybe

remote wadi
vital ginkgo
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Ravenguard

valid needle
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Death worlds could I suppose

vital ginkgo
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Night lords

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Death guard

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Blood angels I think

valid needle
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But even then nocturne has many races

vital ginkgo
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Yes like sakaan

remote wadi
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The thing is all of them have the organ to change skin color

vital ginkgo
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Asian with black skin

valid needle
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So I can’t see any chapter being all white or all black etc

remote wadi
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All of them can be black if required

vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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Unless they have a flaw that makes them pale

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Cause the organs don't work on extremes

valid needle
vital ginkgo
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It's a big universe I'm sure there are many more unnamed chapters like this

vital ginkgo
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Oh nvm I misread

vital ginkgo
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Since the geneseed that changes skin color shouldn't allow for a fenris born human to be so dark

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I would think

remote wadi
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I'm sure they also have the organ

vital ginkgo
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That's what I'm saying

valid needle
remote wadi
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Oh they are darker

vital ginkgo
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Their planet is cold and cloudy inspired by Scandinavia

valid needle
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Yeah there is brown skin space wolves

vital ginkgo
rocky gale
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Born with it

vital ginkgo
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13th geneseed

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What are they adapting to that gives them dark skin?

shadow plover
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huh?

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it don't work that way

rocky gale
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They're born with it

valid needle
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I think most if not all chapters are diverse.

vital ginkgo
# rocky gale They're born with it

Doesn't make sense. Even if they're born black their 13th geneseed should make them white skinned like the rest. Look at sakkan from the salamanders. Asian features but black skin

shadow plover
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That

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is different

vital ginkgo
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How

rocky gale
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Salamanders are the exception no the rule

vital ginkgo
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Is it different?

valid needle
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It’s a geneseed defect

vital ginkgo
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Either way I'm not getting how one could remain black skinned when made into a space wolf and spending time on fenris

valid needle
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It only affects salamanders

vital ginkgo
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The 13th organ shouldn't allow for this

valid needle
lament shoal
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The salamanders' skin color isn't an ethnic thing, like corswain said

vital ginkgo
shadow plover
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also there are black people on frenris

sour hornet
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Yeah there are

valid needle
rocky gale
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Most of the extra organs for space marines get ignored by 90% of the lore

iron mural
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What’s going on ere then?

shadow plover
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these are Fenrisian tribesmen and women

vital ginkgo
valid needle
sour hornet
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It isnt

vital ginkgo
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If the world has no real variation then all the humans shouldn't either

valid needle
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Like caliban is a deathworld

sour hornet
vital ginkgo
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I always heard it was cold cloudy and snowing around the entire thing

rocky gale
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Are we really at the point of needing lore justification for the existence of black people in a fictional setting

vital ginkgo
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That's not what is happening here

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Silly goose

sour hornet
valid needle
sour hornet
vital ginkgo
valid needle
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I showed the Lexicanum entry to him but he brought up salamander geneseed changing their colours and said space wolves geneseed should do the same

vital ginkgo
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You think because I don't see a logical reason to black space wolves that I wouldn't accept them if you gave me a reason?

sour hornet
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Because claiming things definitively with no proof or solid reasoning is orangutan behavior.

vital ginkgo
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Stop trying to paint me as racist for trying to figure out how they could exist

remote wadi
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The organs are impleted but they don't work on extremes

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If you don't have melatonin it can't increase it

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If you have too much it can't decrease it

vital ginkgo
sour hornet
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Read Wolfsbane.

vital ginkgo
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Have you? I'm here to learn the lore not be insulted for my ignorance on a subject

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That is why I'm here

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Not to argue but to figure this shit out

queen laurel
sour hornet
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Figure out... black people.

vital ginkgo
queen laurel
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the Geneseed doesn't make their skin like that it's literally a byproduct of the salamander homeworld

vital ginkgo
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God bless you @sour hornet please learn to be more accepting of people trying to learn

sour hornet
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No

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God

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Please bring smarter students to this channel vro im praying

vital ginkgo
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Bless your heart sweet child

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Calm down

queen laurel
vital ginkgo
vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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First of all it is addressed in lore

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Second of all it doesn't mean it cannot naturally occur

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Third of all why y'all bringing real life morals into fiction

vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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This isn't racism is science goddamit

vital ginkgo
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They are just getting angry at me

remote wadi
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They have a biological augment to change color

vital ginkgo
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Yes

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How is it that on a world that is the same all around there can be verify to the han populations skin color? This isn't me saying I don't want black people. This is me asking how and why this can be

queen laurel
# vital ginkgo Yes

Geneseed mutates humans into Marines, also humanity has spread far and wide in the universe why are you surprised black people can exist on an ice planet

remote wadi
vital ginkgo
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My question stands

remote wadi
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Aka they would be white if the environment requires it

sour hornet
# vital ginkgo Have you? I'm here to learn the lore not be insulted for my ignorance on a subje...

The tribes on Fenris aren't all white norsemen because that was never GW's intent — and because Fenris isn't solely an Ice World to begin with. The north pole is just the only part of the planet that isn’t unstable dogshit. Tribes migrate all over the surface and aren't locked to solely the snowy parts.

The tribes of Fenris are as diverse as basically any other Astartes homeworld. Space Wolves just have Viking theming, so people assume they are all white — despite that literally just being made-up fanon.

remote wadi
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Or black if the environment requires it

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That's not racism that's biology

vital ginkgo
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Exactly

sour hornet
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Not a cogent argument.

remote wadi
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They have an organ for it

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It's in the lore

sour hornet
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So?

queen laurel
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the gene seed doesn't change their skin color the planet's radiation is the reason why they have their skin

vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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The salamanders are black cause their environment requires it

vital ginkgo
queen laurel
sour hornet
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Salamanders specifically turn black on Nocturne though.

queen laurel
remote wadi
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It's not geneseed

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It's a space marine organ

queen laurel
vital ginkgo
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What is wrong with this?

sour hornet
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It's not just any planet, Nocturne specifically turns them dark.

vital ginkgo
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Is it incorrect?

queen laurel
vital ginkgo
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Is it incorrect?

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Read it

queen laurel
lament shoal
vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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The organs they require

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And why most die in the process

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This is biology

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Don't make it about moral

queen laurel
sour hornet
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None of this explains why its strange that Space Wolves can be black though?

vital ginkgo
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Ok thanks one sec

sour hornet
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Like, unless your shit malfunctions, a space marine keeps their original skin tone 99% of the time. See every chapter save the SM and RG.

queen laurel
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yeah and humanity has spread on the stars every marine can be recruited from a bevy of multiple human groups

vital ginkgo
sour hornet
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Like Chairon is black and stays black, a Space Wolf that is black will stay black.

vital ginkgo
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The wiki states that depending on radiation levels their skin with darken or lighten

sour hornet
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Your skin changes if it needs to change. Hence why black marines stay black.

sour hornet
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Not hard to understand.

vital ginkgo
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I get that

remote wadi
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It can't go lower than Ur default

queen laurel
remote wadi
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That's the explanation

sour hornet
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"I get it."

— Man who doesn't get it.

remote wadi
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And if U are albino it also doesn't work

vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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Cause you don't have melatonin to increase

sour hornet
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Like, two seconds on Lexicanum would solve this for you.

remote wadi
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But let's be honest if Ur albino they won't choose you

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The process is rough

sour hornet
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Like, where does being confused about black marines cone from? They aren't literally pitch black, like salamanders, they're just brown humans.

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Like you gotta either be slow or a troll.

remote wadi
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The thing is a white marine can turn black if required

sour hornet
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Yeah, but usually inhuman black.

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Not just melanated lol.

queen laurel
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the human race already in a single planet already has a multitude of of races why is a black space marine confusing

sour hornet
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^

remote wadi
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He was not confused about black marines

vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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He was confused if white marines can turn black why not the reverse

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It's a biology question

sour hornet
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Where does it say that your melanin can be snatched? 💀

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What lore tidbit stated that?

remote wadi
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To which I say I think Ur default is default

sour hornet
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Which is logical and smart

remote wadi
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Yes but he is right the lore is confusing about it

zenith remnant
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The gland that darkens astartes skin onky does so as a reaction to ambient radiation. It does not use melanin to accomplish this.

vital ginkgo
sour hornet
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Not particularly

sour hornet
remote wadi
sour hornet
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No

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Raven Guard geneseed actually does snatch your melanin. But that is specifically a mutation.

remote wadi
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Oh ok

zenith remnant
sour hornet
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White people turn ghost white, and black people turn grey.

vital ginkgo
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Are there any known cases of the pale marines getting skin cancer or anything because of the lack of melanin?

zenith remnant
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All of this is also weird, old lore that isn't cringe enough for modern gw to retcon but is still weird and confusing

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Cancers in general aren't usually a factor for Astartes outside of extreme circumstances or Nurglite corruption

arctic talon
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Their sculpts are just old as shit

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You’re gona have to live with it

arctic talon
remote wadi
arctic talon
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They don’t seem to be able to get cancer from like

remote wadi
arctic talon
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Sun exposure

remote wadi
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Cause they have the 13th organ

arctic talon
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Unless it’s a really fucked up sun I guess

zenith remnant
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The geneseed, among its many other functions, stabilizes the genetics of the astartes its in through the use of the various implants, most likely

remote wadi
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If regular humans without marine organs can have cancer

zenith remnant
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It's also why they live so damn long if they don't get killed

remote wadi
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The 13th organ makes more sense

vital ginkgo
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There are warmer parts I didn't know of that allows for darker skinned humans

zenith remnant
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But it's also likely just that their prevantative and treatment medicine is just so good that such illnesses, on the rare occasions they crop up, are trivial

vital ginkgo
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Right?

zenith remnant
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Fenris didn't develop from scratch like Terra

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Those people were descended from colonists

arctic talon
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Cancer seems more rare in 40K aside from like

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Really fucked up planets or feral ones

vital ginkgo
zenith remnant
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All of them

arctic talon
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💀

vital ginkgo
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Who are the natives?

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Oh

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Ok

remote wadi
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Ok when the emperor made the crusade diversity was already a thing

arctic talon
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There was no native human population on fenris aside from the colonists

lament shoal
zenith remnant
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The only planet humans are native to is Earth

vital ginkgo
arctic talon
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I’m not sure why this is surprising

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We know they were around during the DAOT

zenith remnant
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Work time, bye all

remote wadi
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Bye, see you later

celest dome
vagrant fox
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Even in the ass end of polar nowhere people can have pretty dark skin, see inuits. It doesn't even have to be a particularly hot place

vital ginkgo
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Not long enough for any evolution to change any of them?

sour hornet
arctic talon
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Most people die before cancer can develop I’d say

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lol

vital ginkgo
celest dome
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Yes

arctic talon
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Explicitly

remote wadi
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I mean they did have enought time to also have natural evolution

celest dome
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Also most people dying of cancer before it became common to test peoples died of "symptoms" of cancers that we didn't know why for

remote wadi
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But they didn't had a reason to change

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Since they were dropped already mutated for it

arctic talon
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Also skin color irl evolved over like 20000 years.

And we don’t know when Fenris got colonized

sour hornet
# vital ginkgo What now bro

Firstly, phrasing 💀

Secondly, everyone was a colonist. Most of them were modified in the past, and are as such, rather diverse.

celest dome
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Also isn't "white" the mutation ?

vital ginkgo
arctic talon
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We don’t know when

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It happened

remote wadi
arctic talon
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Is more so my point

sour hornet
arctic talon
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White is the mutation for humans in general

vital ginkgo
celest dome
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No in rl

remote wadi
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In the empirum anything is anything

arctic talon
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Black skin came about like 1.2 million years ago evolutionarily approximately

remote wadi
arctic talon
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And then white skin developed over 10-20k years due to the environments people moved to

sour hornet
remote wadi
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But biology does think being white was a mutation

arctic talon
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Just not very much

remote wadi
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Mostly cause white skin can adapt more to radiation but not deal with extremes

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(pls don't make this about race this is biology)

arctic talon
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Anyways Fenris does have multiple biomes

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They’re just all

celest dome
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"races" come from biology though

arctic talon
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Dogshit to live in

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lol

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They’re all cold as shit or way too fucking hot

remote wadi
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And this is science only

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We all just humans

vital ginkgo
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How often are new chapters introduced into lore. I'd like to see a native american themed chapter. I don't believe there is one yet

celest dome
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I don't think anyone here was doing so

remote wadi
celest dome
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There are some Native American Chapters, the Dark Angels in ye old edition had Native American iconography

vagrant fox
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Deathwing used to have native american theming for some reason

sour hornet
hallow saddle
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doesn't raven guard have some bits

arctic talon
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Space wolves are like

celest dome
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Space Wolves have nothing like the Native American

arctic talon
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Viking/Norse stuff but fucked up

remote wadi
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Since werewolves were native American in folklore

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Also Norse true

celest dome
arctic talon
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The Pacific Islander stuff is more clearly seen in one of their sucessors

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🦈

hallow saddle
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carcharodons for sure ya

remote wadi
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Ok I don't wanna make this weird but how about the khorne marines

arctic talon
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But they have like the similar style of tattoo/symbology on vehicles

hallow saddle
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if someone wants to make an OC native American chapter that would be sick

remote wadi
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Mostly cause resemblesse to chupacabra

celest dome
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Werewolves aren't Native American folklore either (or at least uniquely/specifically)
They do have some variants of them that are though

arctic talon
vagrant fox
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Go Obsidian Jaguars, my unbeloved Aztec space marine chapter

arctic talon
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A warband with that stuff would be interesting

remote wadi
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Or sons of malice

celest dome
vital ginkgo
remote wadi
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To be fair even the thousand sons are Aztec based

celest dome
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No ?

remote wadi
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In simbology

lament shoal
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Is the salamanders' skin color just a result of Nocturne's radiation or do Vulkan's genetics also come into play?

arctic talon
arctic talon
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People on nocturne are just, normal darker skin tones generally

vagrant fox
celest dome
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What symbology tie the TSons to the Aztecs

remote wadi
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Oh my bad is egyptian

celest dome
lament shoal
remote wadi
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I got confused for a second there

arctic talon
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As far as we know the people on nocturne don’t look like that normally with the whole

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Extremely black skin and glowing red eyes

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They just have normal black/brown skin or other skin tones more rarely and normal eyes

remote wadi
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Dark angels

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The dark angels had symbolism from native American

arctic talon
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Deathwing used to

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Not as much anymore

vital ginkgo
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That was removed though or just forgotten

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I'd like to see a white scars successor that is plains Indian inspired

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Scalp taking, counting coup, lots of feathers

celest dome
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removed, cause it wasn't really well made.
Like not as bad as the Pygmies in fantasy, but not great still

remote wadi
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The sons of malice did pratice cannibalism and scalping by culture

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But that's not native American

daring creek
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Would space marines be amazing gamers

remote wadi
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That's tribal in general

daring creek
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Like would they be masters at csgo and fortnite

celest dome
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Sure

remote wadi
iron mural
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Do you guys think tyberos would order happy meals for himself

remote wadi
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This man is a gamer marine

storm jungle
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Bro

storm jungle
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did I miss an entire space marine skin color debate

remote wadi
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He has an enhancement for aim bot

storm jungle
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You fucks

arctic talon
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Bro Tyberos literally eats people

daring creek
arctic talon
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As in like

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Actual people

remote wadi
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I hope that's not against the rules

iron mural
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Well I mean he is a space shark

storm jungle
arctic talon
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💀

remote wadi
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💀

iron mural
remote wadi
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Welp sorry I talked about something forbidden I didn't know

sour hornet
remote wadi
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Will miss yall

arctic talon
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Guh

remote wadi
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You can't do it Ur an acolyte

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I'm just an heretic psyker

sour hornet
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as a fellow secret tzeentch enjoyer

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I gotta

arctic talon
sour hornet
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elite

remote wadi
sour hornet
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where the fuck did you even get that

languid meadow
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clodshire

sour hornet
sour hornet
arctic talon
remote wadi
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Also can we talk about how fulgrim would literally be broken if he wasn't so self centered

sour hornet
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That's literally most Slaaneshi daemons and princes.

remote wadi
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Lucious is broken tho

sour hornet
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Slaaneshi daemons are usually the fastest, most skilled, can be powerful psykers, and are usually adequately armored.

remote wadi
#

When I read about how he died to a mine and possessed the body of the adeptus mechanicus that did it
I was like wtf

celest dome
#

Just a menial, not a member of the cult

remote wadi
#

In the tabletop they are one of the strongest comp armies

#

But to be fair tzeentch should have the best psykers

sour hornet
#

To nerf them, Slaaneshi champions are also some of the foulest gooners ever to walk, or are supermassively autistic about a single pursuit.

opaque coyote
lament shoal
opaque coyote
#

vine thud

remote wadi
#

(I don't play tournaments)

opaque coyote
lament shoal
remote wadi
#

To be fair 180€ for base marines isn't acceptable pricing

sour hornet
#

That's actual robbery

remote wadi
#

40€ for lucious is totally worth tho

storm jungle
#

show me your BALLS

sour hornet
#

???

storm jungle
#

And anna gun is yours.

remote wadi
#

My lawyer said for legal reasons my balls are protected under copyright and I shall not show them

languid meadow
#

lame

#

let me print your balls

remote wadi
#

Haha

#

Also the copyright isn't mine it's my wifes

lament shoal
#

Out of context discord messages are funny

remote wadi
#

Also hey I'm printing self made models and not selling them

remote wadi
#

For personal use only

lament shoal
#

I like this one lmao

sour hornet
#

OKAY

#

I FORGOT YOU HAD THAT

remote wadi
lament shoal
#

LMAO

remote wadi
#

Not morally correct but factual

sour hornet
#

THANKS, BUT NOT THE SUPPORT I AM LOOKING FOR PAL

remote wadi
#

Haha

#

To be honest my best out of context sentence is lame in comparison

opaque coyote
#

Smh

spring cairn
#

I HATE IT HERE

remote wadi
spring cairn
#

LOOK

#

Look at the warden and victor

sour hornet
spring cairn
#

EU gaming moment

storm jungle
remote wadi
#

Also why are tau so hard to find in stores

spring cairn
#

will the report work (no)

remote wadi
#

Everytime I bought a tau model I had to online order it

spring cairn
#

steammmm moment

spring cairn
#

world peace will be attained when steam actually enforce their offensive content policy

#

they have one, they just don't car

sour hornet
#

actual lore question in lore chat (scandalous)

#

what's the lore on guevesa using battlesuits?

languid meadow
#

it's rare but there's instances

remote wadi
#

Most of humans on Tau army are like kroot carnivores

#

You use them to bait then nuke the opponent

spring cairn
#

not in lore tho

languid meadow
#

A renegade inquisitor was able to pilot a crisis suit (although modified for a human) so it is possible for a human to be granted the honour to pilot one

spring cairn
#

they'd totally let me pilot one

lament shoal
languid meadow
#

I mean relatively better life quality plus the chance to pilot a fucking mech? sign me up

daring creek
arctic talon
#

But there’s some instances

arctic talon
languid meadow
dapper gyro
#

What acid strip is this?...

spring cairn
#

it gets worse

#

it's just a eu valve game thing

arctic talon
#

Wonderful

spring cairn
#

lack of punishment + eastern euros (no offense)

#

is true

young pecan
#

my favorite old person

remote wadi
#

Guys is the black legion fun to play?

#

I found them cause of abbadon

#

But I don't even know their playstyle

#

Im gonna buy abbadon anyways tbh

arctic talon
#

They’re the archetypical csm playstyle

#

Good shooting, better melee, marine durability

remote wadi
#

So they are space marines but chaos

arctic talon
#

Their themed detachment encourages taking less or no cultists

arctic talon
remote wadi
#

Which detachments are good for cultist

#

I wanna make a proxy of me as a cultist

arctic talon
#

The cultist detach

#

lol

valid needle
remote wadi
remote wadi
#

Thousand sons have the infiltration play

#

I guess chaos marines are the average at everything guys

valid needle
#

Emperors children and thousand sons are chaos marines

rose thorn
#

even then

arctic talon
#

Sylvaneth are not gona get new dryads until the earth is salted

#

Lol

rose thorn
#

the warcry warband's dont look much different lmao

#

holy image quality

#

its basically the same

arctic talon
#

Yep

#

lol

languid meadow
#

gave his ass impact frames for this

arctic talon
#

He deserves it smh

rocky gale
#

Yes, kill him

#

As a Veigar main having to lane Vs Ekko is one of the most miserable experiences

arctic talon
#

Laning vs Ekko is misery

remote wadi
#

The chaos marine faction is chaos undivided

languid meadow
#

honestly I need to explore more destruction factions

#

because seeing the troggoth models in the new battleforce boxes was cool

rocky gale
#

Ekko, Yasuo, Fizz and Vlad are like my four most miserable lane opponents

remote wadi
#

Ok I'm gonna say the dirty thing

#

Chaos undivided are the good guys

#

End the corpse emperor

languid meadow
#

my perma bans for every lane are
Teemo for top
Akali for mid
Shaco for jungle
either Ashe or samira for bot
Leona or Tahm for sup

dapper gyro
lament shoal
dapper gyro
#

It always the joes at the bottom get hit.

spring cairn
#

more politic

#

i want more

remote wadi
#

But chaos undivided are the guys on the bottom

#

They don't have gods favor

dapper gyro
#

Manipulated by the top dogs.

remote wadi
#

The corpse emperor doesn't like them

dapper gyro
#

Chaos is an insider job.

remote wadi
#

Actually they are the atheist

spring cairn
#

should just get rid of all the top dogs

#

easy solution

remote wadi
#

Fabulous denies gods

rocky gale
#

I pretty much only play mid, if I'm playing Veigar I'll ban Yasuo and if I'm Annie I'll ban Xerath

remote wadi
#

Cypher denies anything

#

Abbadon denies gods

dapper gyro
#

Abby was one of the top of the corpse E, then he turns being the top of the other side?

remote wadi
#

He doesn't workship chaos

arctic talon
#

Fabius admits he’s wrong

#

lol

remote wadi
#

He just saw all the lies

arctic talon
#

By the end of his books

dapper gyro
#

See Bin Laden, former CIA top dog.

lament shoal
remote wadi
#

He saw the weakness of Horus
He knows emperor isn't the way for humanity

#

Abbadon is what the big E used to be

#

An atheist that uses his enemies as folder to make humankind survive

spring cairn
sour hornet
dapper gyro
#

Different flag, same method.

arctic talon
dapper gyro
#

You die, I die, everyone dies.

sour hornet
#

I dont die

remote wadi
#

Abbadon doesn't kill without an end goal

sour hornet
remote wadi
#

Abbadon uses chaos as the enemies of my enemy

#

Once the big E dies abbadon won't need chaos

sacred ginkgo
spring cairn
#

he does it ironically dw

remote wadi
#

For empowerment

sour hornet
remote wadi
#

Its for the end goal

dapper gyro
#

Buy into propaganda... poor guy.

remote wadi
#

All factions are propaganda for godsake

#

Chaos undivided is just the we don't workship nothing but humankind

#

They are what the emperor would want

sacred ginkgo
#

Except for like

dapper gyro
#

That's the thing, they say that while actively do the opposite.

sacred ginkgo
#

The soul selling to chaos

sour hornet
#

Chaos is just more honest

spring cairn
#

this has to be ragebait

remote wadi
sacred ginkgo
#

Are you sure

dapper gyro
spring cairn
#

are you shore

remote wadi
#

Necron propaganda is that they are fully logical

#

But they have feelings

sour hornet
#

Imagine the avg imperium worker, getting ground to paste working 18 hour shifts until he dies, unknown and unremembered

remote wadi
#

And turn to husks of beings with time due to trauma

sour hornet
#

literal slave to the system, who represents most imperial workers

#

chaos is way better

remote wadi
#

Abbadon whole lore is about how he uses chaos, chaos doesn't use him

#

If anything abbadon is a chaos god himself

dapper gyro
#

To be fair, if someone like me is gone, who but by immediate family would remember after a while?

#

The family would moving on as well.

remote wadi
sacred ginkgo
remote wadi
#

I didn't meet him but he played jazz

#

On the first crusiers

#

He is amazing

remote wadi
#

Cause he is what big E was

#

Big E also used the chaos gods

#

And he didn't fall to chaos

sacred ginkgo
#

You see the funny part about that

#

Is you're missing the Yet there

daring creek
#

I think the Imposter would be very dangerous in the Imperium

#

Wait

#

I'm thinking of The Thing

#

Lmfao

young pecan
daring creek
#

I should rewatch that movie lol.

young pecan
#

It especially counters my Karma because they have infinite time to react to my W

daring creek
#

Does the tyranids have any properties akin to The Thing? Do they spread like an infection

dapper gyro
#

Their form is fixed, they don't transform like The Thing.

sacred ginkgo
arctic talon
#

Wrong morgana

#

💀

sacred ginkgo
young pecan
#

bro borderline harassing a sexual harassment victim constantly

sacred ginkgo
#

He's just a silly little guy its ok

young pecan
#

"b but he's a harmless little critter who could never fulfill his desires so it doesn't matter that he harasses women" is one of the most appalling character tropes that Japan just adores shitting out

#

Granted Morgana is supposed to be a gentleman but he still overdoes it sometimes

sacred ginkgo
#

I just hate the cast of persona 5

#

Except Sojiro

young pecan
#

Just like Kon or whatever from Bleach

sacred ginkgo
#

He's based

spring cairn
#

japan when it's time to not harass women in media

#

or in real life for that matter

young pecan
#

Trying to watch Bleach and every time Kon is on the screen I have to physically restrain myself from turning that shit off

#

It's so unbearable

spring cairn
#

many such cases

#

many many

#

many

remote wadi
#

Honestly I don't think abbadon would fall for the chaos gods

young pecan
remote wadi
#

I think the same way peterabo is a deamon prince of chaos undivided

#

Abbadon can turn to the god of chaos undivided

sacred ginkgo
#

Better than average

young pecan
#

I played most of base P5 years ago and semi recently tried P5R and the way she was just shoehorned in

remote wadi
#

Kinda like how big E didnt want to turn into godhood and did

sacred ginkgo
#

But ruined by "sorry I can't help you save the world I have gymnastics or smth"

young pecan
#

I like that the billionaire's daughter turned against him

#

I forget how well that was done because it was years ago but neat

sacred ginkgo
#

It was terrible

#

Haru is the worst character in the game

#

She has zero development

young pecan
#

Good concept bad execution I guess

remote wadi
#

Also I just realized wait chaos marines allows you to have champions from all chaos factions

arctic talon
remote wadi
#

Just not the marines

young pecan
#

Makoto was probably the most intentionally-developed character

#

Or uhh

#

Blue hair guy

remote wadi
#

Basically you can't take noise marines

young pecan
#

Matthew Mercer Man

remote wadi
#

But you can take lucious

sacred ginkgo
#

As a character

arctic talon
#

I agree

remote wadi
#

I'm gonna make the dark custodes army

arctic talon
#

My favorite persona game is still P3

#

Because nostalgia

#

lol

sacred ginkgo
#

I like 4

remote wadi
#

It's just chaos primarchs and relevant characters

arctic talon
#

I played P3P when I was in middle school

#

So that stuck

remote wadi
#

(they aren't custodes)

sacred ginkgo
#

4's second remake is coming

arctic talon
#

Yep

#

Well

#

I wouldn’t call golden a remake

#

More like dlc as a full game

#

lol

sacred ginkgo
#

But no original voices

#

Monkeys paw

arctic talon
#

Tbf neither did P3R

sacred ginkgo
#

But the va in 3p was shit right

arctic talon
#

In 3 it was

#

Not the best lol

#

Reload’s VA in English is pretty much a universal improvement

remote wadi
#

Ok I'm gonna convert everyone to chaos undivided armies with a single sentence

#

You can have all chaos primarchs and lucious in the same army

arctic talon
#

I’m not sure how to feel about P4’s voice acting changes

sacred ginkgo
#

I still think that junpei is the best "best friend" character development wise

arctic talon
#

But they haven’t shown anything yet

sacred ginkgo
#

And his reload va is amazing

arctic talon
#

Yeah that’s because Junpei gets his own thing

#

lol

sacred ginkgo
#

He also kills everything

arctic talon
#

My GOAT

sacred ginkgo
#

So I get to like him for more than one reason

arctic talon
#

I will say Reload made him look a lot prettier

#

lol

sacred ginkgo
#

Absolutely fucking ruining the bridge fight against strega by critting one, then the other, then both

arctic talon
#

GOAT

#

Also junpei being the crit focused physical attacker in P3 is always funny

#

Not the actual boxer

#

Though Akihiko is more utility ig

sacred ginkgo
#

Second coming of junpei in Metaphor with Strohl

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

With the weakness stuff lol

sacred ginkgo
#

Yeah but basillio isn't as hot

#

Props to basillio for being an actually good last party member though

arctic talon
#

He cheats by being in the game for a large part of it

#

So you see his personality

sacred ginkgo
#

Yep

arctic talon
# sacred ginkgo Yep

Metaphor refantazio’s message of violence is the answer to violent racism/social Darwinism in funny as fuck

#

Someone is facist, the answer is to kill him

#

What did ATLUS mean by this

sacred ginkgo
#

During the elections no less

dapper gyro
#

Everytime I look that Personage, I think of No More Hero.

arctic talon
#

Also props to that one racist woman who literally never stops being racist throughout the entire game lol

#

Funny as shit

sacred ginkgo
#

What the one at like the beginning of the capital

arctic talon
#

Yeah you got elected, but I still hate your raceTopKekSphere

#

Yeah

#

That one paripus woman

sacred ginkgo
#

I love that lady

#

First person you talk to

#

Violent racist

#

Peak

arctic talon
#

Look

#

Not always the first

#

Sometimes people talk to the guard first, who is just kind of racist

#

Also the innkeeper who isn’t actually racist but your presence would make his sales worse so he’s complicit instead TopKekSphere

#

You got so many different “fun” flavors of racism in metaphor

sacred ginkgo
#

I love metaphor

#

Shame it's even easier to break the combat than persona

arctic talon
#

That’s an SMT moment lol

sacred ginkgo
#

I beat most encounters in the last third of the game in 1 move

arctic talon
#

The moment I saw it was press turn

sacred ginkgo
#

For free

arctic talon
#

I knew that shit was gona get cracked open

#

Like an egg lol

sacred ginkgo
#

Miracle Cirque my beloved

arctic talon
#

I vastly prefer press turn to personas combat system

#

lol

sacred ginkgo
#

Because it's better

#

As someone who has player a single press turn game

arctic talon
#

Now play SMT

radiant lance
#

Does the Emperor have a fursona?

arctic talon
#

Prolly not

#

lol

sacred ginkgo
#

Reminder that the Agitator zealot plays one of your political opponents

dapper gyro
rocky gale
#

The Lion and Russ, who's third?

arctic talon
#

Idk Corax and sanguinius I guess

dapper gyro
#

Horus

rocky gale
#

Oh he said half, I thought you said three

dapper gyro
#

Vulkan

rocky gale
#

Na Vulkan is a Scalie

dapper gyro
#

Still animal

rocky gale
#

Totally different

dapper gyro
#

Zootopia discrimination now?

rocky gale
#

Can't be confusing furries and scalies

#

and featheries

dapper gyro
#

World eater was called War Hounds, which is a furry as well.

stone idol
#

All xeno's if you ask me

wintry cloud
#

Dont forget russ

#

The true furry

stone idol
#

Eh I wouldn't mix Russ with them

storm jungle
#

Im sorry but Mr Wolf Wolfington is going in there

spring cairn
#

he deserves it

dapper gyro
#

If Russ is not there, then no one is.

#

The price of being an alpha wolf pack leader, is that you are a furry.

#

Me, I'm just a guy in a human team.

spring cairn
#

it's the price of saying wolf or something wolf related every 2 words you utter

radiant lance
#

Fulgrim's fursona is a twink

arctic talon
#

My favorite

rocky gale
#

Yea, my TikTok has recently went from funny videos to just straight up nazi dogwhistle shit every other video, I've had to click not interested so many times and it keeps coming back.

dapper gyro
#

Well, America is trying to own TikTok...

#

What's a surprise.

outer wave
storm jungle
#

you can tell from the views on all the periods they were made in for the sake of chud grifting as well lol

languid meadow
#

the chuddies

#

https://fxtwitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1974901230012105187 you're getting a propaganda tweet because it's hilarious

🇨🇳 #China - 🇮🇳 #India: Photos released by a well-known propaganda bureau of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) show a Chinese soldier armed with a spiked weapon along the Himalayan border with India, where both sides have banned the use of firearms or other projectile weapons.
︀︀
︀︀Clashes in the region often involve hand-to-hand combat, and at times, reports of experimental "radiation weapons" which usualy leads to soldiers vomiting and incapacitated without breaking no-live-shots rule.
︀︀
︀︀The post was shared with the caption, "We are going medieval on the Indians," from the Chinese side.

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storm jungle
#

Chudformers

languid meadow
#

"radiation weapons"

storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

this is legit some imperium tier shit

radiant lance
#

Oh cool
We got rad weapons from the skitarii

#

Complete with irradiating the user

languid meadow
#

but also buy another space marine combat patrol now

storm jungle
#

my honest reaction

languid meadow
#

fire line skippy

storm jungle
#

Also uh

#

we do know femtodes are actually properly coming to HH

#

cant wait for that

#

wew

languid meadow
#

more talons of the emperor please

#

but seriously I do kind of like that comment in some ways

storm jungle
#

he saw them as he was leaving apparently?

#

Ngl it sounds "basic" enough to be legit

languid meadow
#

when was the last time custodes got new models

#

I forgot despite being a fan

#

fuckkk

#

and I mean new and not plastic versions of older stuff

dapper gyro
#

7e

languid meadow
#

oh ok

#

I mean pretty sure other factions had it worse but jeez

dapper gyro
#

Deldar...

languid meadow
#

bleak

celest dome
#

Harlequin

languid meadow
#

love looking at their models compared to other factions

#

it's so sad

celest dome
#

No new models since 2015
(unless we count Kyganil, where we would have been 2020)

storm jungle
#

Yeah custards are definitely getting an update for HH

languid meadow
#

dw they just got a new combat patrol copium

#

I really don't count new characters as full models imo

daring creek
#

Holyshit is that Asriel Deltarune

valid needle
storm jungle
celest dome
#

Sometime I get random yt video recomendation of fnaf theories, I hardly can understand how deep those fans have gone for that setting

spring cairn
#

I think the the guy who made the games is as lost as you are

sour hornet
#

As if the tithe wasnt controversial enough lmao

radiant lance
#

How do we know previous custodes helmet less models aren't also women but just really low resolution

storm jungle
celest dome
sour hornet
#

Who is responsible for 40k though

#

Its not one guy

celest dome
#

Custodes woman characters miniature ?

radiant lance
radiant lance
#

Founder and owner of Warhammer 40,000

#

He made the other 39,999 other Warhammer himself too

celest dome
sour hornet
#

Chud 40k fans fleeing to Battletech, only to realize in horror that 50% of the cast is women

sour hornet
celest dome
#

They have a few iirc

spring cairn
#

the witch ?

storm jungle
#

Trench crusade's devs said they dont want fascist fans

spring cairn
#

artillery witch or is it another one

#

i frgot