#40k-lore-chat
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You calling tau communists already invalidates your opinion on the faction
I need to see your BOSS.
I mean in pratice communism doesn't work like theory
He was kinda glazing them earlier lol
Also I would like to be born tau
Same but that has a few downsides
Cause like the other options are far worst
You get budget mind controlled instead

U have to understand between working 16 hours shifts for a war I didn't ask for
Being born as an Eldar is imo the most favourable thing
And working 10 h shifts on something I was born into for the greater good
Okay here's several things I understand
If I get captured by the Tau, I get:
Hypnotized
Castrated
Forced into caste labor
What else?
I'll be honest tzeentch just had to give one book
The greater good is a lie that serves as nothing but a method the ethereals use to control their subjects
What else happens
Then why are all tau rational
And they all fast at inventing
Also 10 hours a day doesn't sound bad in the context of 40
Yet they all choose the greater good
Your first option they give you is to join their military as an auxiliary
I mean the absolute majority
16 hours ain't even bad
Didn't that blade Tau leave the Greater Good ?
I have an OPTION???
WOW
Yes and look at him the only reason he isn't fulgrim is cause he lacks connection to chaos
His sword is chaos based
i'm gonna be honest being Orks is probably your best bet
Because you are literally born to fight and the universe you are being born in is literally a fighting pit in heaven, you are purpose built to be a war driven monster, so you can be a bad guy and have fun, also you reincarnate
16 hours of working for the greater good and 8 hours of sleep
That is fucking amazing.
Well its not really that great. "Become fodder for the war meatgrinder or slave away in a labor camp, your call."
It doesn't take a lot to be content as an ork just a lot of things to kill and fight
Atleast I get to choose man.
yes you are morally speaking a bastard but hey you are happy
Being born into a way of life isn't the same thing as choosing it
They all have rational thought
What is life like for enslaved humans
Some of them got away from the tau empire due to war
At the supervision of the ethereals
And they go back to it
I like the idea that an ork being tortured is in severe misery not because they're being tortured but because they're being forced to be still away from fighting
That’s true btw
Also if Ur born as an earth cast you're never at war
Ur just an engineer tchilling
It's a great life
Trve
Plus theres a chance I get treated bad by tau women
The downside is
I don't think any of them will reach human standard hag status
Tau advance technology faster cause their engineers are literally tchilling and creative
Surrounded by other engineers
If Ur a fire cast Welp it is what it is
Farsight is old af

But he has a sword that steals lifetimes
Oh shit
Nice
But why does the 40k universe need to be so awful
You can't even have old tau women
:/
Cring
It is a hell of the factions' own making
Lots of mistakes were made
Also according the og old ones lore the tau are the superior species
Cause they are the phase 5 of creation
Humans are phase 4
Humans were made as weapon against chaos
And they are what empowers chaos
Tau are just the tau
Just there to live and die
The old ones planned the tau as the actual surviving species the humans are just fuel for the emperor to end chaos
At least according to a necron that used a human body
And this is where the 5th god comes into play
What is this symbol? A version of the crux terminatus?
Malice?

No the 5th chaos god was foretold to be the emperor
@storm jungle 💀
Oh yeah we talked about this like a few minutes ago
Mfs losing their minds
U mean the dark king?
I mean we already kinda have 8 gods
Like I said warhammer fans every time they see a minority or a woman go ballistic
We just know 5 of them
Peterabo is technically a deamon of a still not manifested god
Unless they wanna make him that god
Or retcon it
Or chaos undivided god can be the man himself abadon
God forbid a man looks unconventional 💀
“WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERES MORE THAN JUST WHITES IN THE HUMAN RACE?? HERESY!”
Yep new warhammer quest
But that's age of sigmar
PESTIGORS
Man I want more Warhammer 40k coop options
Also first look at cities of sigmar duardin
Yes pestigors
Salamanders are white boys with a bit of melanin.
Just a touch
To be fair all space marines except the salamander can adapt their color to the environment
They have an organ just for that
Salamander geneseed just put so much base melanin that it can't change it
Really? Why would that be needed? Do Space marines have to worry about skin cancer without it?
I would think so
That's funny
I once talked to this guy who genuinely believed that black ultramarines go against the lore 💀
I bet he also said that Gadriel should be a white scar?
Not ultramarines but some chapters sure. He could've chosen any other chapter where that actually applies and he chooses ultramarines lol
Honestly I like the Warhammer take on race
It's the truth it's just an adaptation to environment
Micro Evolution
Maybe a very limited chapter
Like a chapter that only recruits from one world
Space wolves
Space wolves maybe
Yep
Ravenguard
Death worlds could I suppose
But even then nocturne has many races
Yes like sakaan
The thing is all of them have the organ to change skin color
Asian with black skin
So I can’t see any chapter being all white or all black etc
All of them can be black if required
Celestial lions were all brown. Space wolves all white. There's plenty
Unless they have a flaw that makes them pale
Cause the organs don't work on extremes
There’s black space wolves I’m sure
It's a big universe I'm sure there are many more unnamed chapters like this
No. Imperial fists
Oh nvm I misread
There shouldn't be
Since the geneseed that changes skin color shouldn't allow for a fenris born human to be so dark
I would think
I'm sure they also have the organ
That's what I'm saying
The Seawolves is one of the twelve active Great Companies of the Space Wolves.[1]
Their planet is cold and cloudy inspired by Scandinavia
Yeah there is brown skin space wolves
How do they get their dark skin?
Born with it
Shouldn't matter
13th geneseed
What are they adapting to that gives them dark skin?
They're born with it
I think most if not all chapters are diverse.
Doesn't make sense. Even if they're born black their 13th geneseed should make them white skinned like the rest. Look at sakkan from the salamanders. Asian features but black skin
How
Salamanders are the exception no the rule
Is it different?
It’s not black it’s charcoal
It’s a geneseed defect
Either way I'm not getting how one could remain black skinned when made into a space wolf and spending time on fenris
It only affects salamanders
The 13th organ shouldn't allow for this
Because they were born on fenris
The salamanders' skin color isn't an ethnic thing, like corswain said
There are sunny parts of that planet?
also there are black people on frenris
Yeah there are
Well no it’s a frozen deathworld
Most of the extra organs for space marines get ignored by 90% of the lore
What’s going on ere then?
these are Fenrisian tribesmen and women
How then can there be sub saharan looking fenris humans? Micro evolution should make them all look the same one way or another
Rada thinks black space wolves shouldn’t exist because of Russ geneseed or something despite black space wolves being born on fenris.
If the world has no real variation then all the humans shouldn't either
Because the equatorial parts of fenris brown you
I've never heard of this where can I read?
I always heard it was cold cloudy and snowing around the entire thing
Are we really at the point of needing lore justification for the existence of black people in a fictional setting
This is actual single-digit IQ behavior for a number of reasons, but okay.
That’s what I’m saying
It literally has super summers that melt all the ice and cause massive floods on a regular basis.
Why do you need to insult me? We're talking about the lore and reasons behind these things
I showed the Lexicanum entry to him but he brought up salamander geneseed changing their colours and said space wolves geneseed should do the same
You think because I don't see a logical reason to black space wolves that I wouldn't accept them if you gave me a reason?
Because claiming things definitively with no proof or solid reasoning is orangutan behavior.
Stop trying to paint me as racist for trying to figure out how they could exist
The organs are impleted but they don't work on extremes
If you don't have melatonin it can't increase it
If you have too much it can't decrease it
That is what you did. Stating that fenris isn't a frozen world with no sources
"Always heard." Bro have you read an actual codex? Or any SW book?
Read Wolfsbane.
Have you? I'm here to learn the lore not be insulted for my ignorance on a subject
That is why I'm here
Not to argue but to figure this shit out
Wait but the reason that the salamander skin is like that is because the radiation of their world
You are slow or acting slow. Grow up
the Geneseed doesn't make their skin like that it's literally a byproduct of the salamander homeworld
God bless you @sour hornet please learn to be more accepting of people trying to learn
you're the one here acting like black skin isn't something that cannot naturally occur
I was saying the opposite. Re read what I was saying
Maybe I mis typed somewhere. Tell me where I said that please
First of all it is addressed in lore
Second of all it doesn't mean it cannot naturally occur
Third of all why y'all bringing real life morals into fiction
That is what I want to know. No one has told me how though
This isn't racism is science goddamit
They are just getting angry at me
They have a biological augment to change color
Yes
How is it that on a world that is the same all around there can be verify to the han populations skin color? This isn't me saying I don't want black people. This is me asking how and why this can be
Geneseed mutates humans into Marines, also humanity has spread far and wide in the universe why are you surprised black people can exist on an ice planet
Now look at what I just said
Yes but space marines change color according to planet
My question stands
Aka they would be white if the environment requires it
The tribes on Fenris aren't all white norsemen because that was never GW's intent — and because Fenris isn't solely an Ice World to begin with. The north pole is just the only part of the planet that isn’t unstable dogshit. Tribes migrate all over the surface and aren't locked to solely the snowy parts.
The tribes of Fenris are as diverse as basically any other Astartes homeworld. Space Wolves just have Viking theming, so people assume they are all white — despite that literally just being made-up fanon.
Exactly
I mean, you literally never see this with basically any chapter in any visual media besides the salamanders.
Not a cogent argument.
So?
the gene seed doesn't change their skin color the planet's radiation is the reason why they have their skin
This still doesn't answer the question of the 13th organ. Even if they are originally black shoudnt their skin change once they become space marines and live among the the rest of the chapter?
The salamanders are black cause their environment requires it
Radiation or lack of radiation
it doesn't change skin color, Geneseed doesn't do that
Salamanders specifically turn black on Nocturne though.
oh of course you're using wikipedia that explains it
What is wrong with this?
It's not just any planet, Nocturne specifically turns them dark.
Is it incorrect?
they copy and paste everything without verifying the source
yes
Any warhammer lore site that isn't lexicanum tends to be inaccurate
Which part and please explain
The source is the book that explains in detail how space marines are made
The organs they require
And why most die in the process
This is biology
Don't make it about moral
the whole skin mutation part because the reason why they have their skin is literally the stellar radiation of the planet and the genetics of being in the world for so long
None of this explains why its strange that Space Wolves can be black though?
Also I'd like ss of what you read that disproves the wiki
Ok thanks one sec
Like, unless your shit malfunctions, a space marine keeps their original skin tone 99% of the time. See every chapter save the SM and RG.
yeah and humanity has spread on the stars every marine can be recruited from a bevy of multiple human groups
Wiki says otherwise. Where do you read what you are saying?
Like Chairon is black and stays black, a Space Wolf that is black will stay black.
No it doesn't.
The wiki states that depending on radiation levels their skin with darken or lighten
Your skin changes if it needs to change. Hence why black marines stay black.
Radiation normal = skin unchanged.
Not hard to understand.
I mean, that's just tanning 
I get that
It can't go lower than Ur default
Yes they only become darker when they are on a specific planet they return to their normal skin tone when they are not on a high radiation place also yes that's just adapted tanning
That's the explanation
And if U are albino it also doesn't work
Said the no birthday man
Cause you don't have melatonin to increase
Like, two seconds on Lexicanum would solve this for you.
Like, where does being confused about black marines cone from? They aren't literally pitch black, like salamanders, they're just brown humans.
Like you gotta either be slow or a troll.
The thing is a white marine can turn black if required
the human race already in a single planet already has a multitude of of races why is a black space marine confusing
^
He was not confused about black marines
Yes I see the lexicanum is different from wiki. I was told on here before to use wiki for some other lore.
He was confused if white marines can turn black why not the reverse
It's a biology question
Where does it say that your melanin can be snatched? 💀
What lore tidbit stated that?
To which I say I think Ur default is default
Which is logical and smart
Yes but he is right the lore is confusing about it
The gland that darkens astartes skin onky does so as a reaction to ambient radiation. It does not use melanin to accomplish this.
I was thinking of ravenguard and night lords. I was told they turn pale no matter what skin color after geneseed implantation so I assumed this was due to the 13th organ and that they lived on their dark planets
Not particularly
Like it specifically states this.
Ohhh I think it is cause of their planet of origin
No
Raven Guard geneseed actually does snatch your melanin. But that is specifically a mutation.
Oh ok
Geneseed mutation in both cases, not related to homeworld. In the case of Salamanders, it's a malfunction + the conditions on their homeworld to produce the extreme shift
White people turn ghost white, and black people turn grey.
Are there any known cases of the pale marines getting skin cancer or anything because of the lack of melanin?
All of this is also weird, old lore that isn't cringe enough for modern gw to retcon but is still weird and confusing
Cancers in general aren't usually a factor for Astartes outside of extreme circumstances or Nurglite corruption
Aside from being blasted with radiation weapons no
Yes but they turn to death guards
They don’t seem to be able to get cancer from like

Sun exposure
Cause they have the 13th organ
Unless it’s a really fucked up sun I guess
The geneseed, among its many other functions, stabilizes the genetics of the astartes its in through the use of the various implants, most likely
If regular humans without marine organs can have cancer
It's also why they live so damn long if they don't get killed
The 13th organ makes more sense
My confusion here was due my understanding of fenris to be like space Norway all around the globe. But you have said otherwise.
There are warmer parts I didn't know of that allows for darker skinned humans
But it's also likely just that their prevantative and treatment medicine is just so good that such illnesses, on the rare occasions they crop up, are trivial
Right?
Fenris didn't develop from scratch like Terra
Those people were descended from colonists
Cancer seems more rare in 40K aside from like
Really fucked up planets or feral ones
The blacks or whites?
All of them
💀
Ok when the emperor made the crusade diversity was already a thing
There was no native human population on fenris aside from the colonists
Probably common in hives tbh
The only planet humans are native to is Earth
Do you know how long humans have inhabited the planet?
Work time, bye all
Bye, see you later
Does help that people live more dangerously, and that they probably aren't going to the doctor as often
Even in the ass end of polar nowhere people can have pretty dark skin, see inuits. It doesn't even have to be a particularly hot place
Not long enough for any evolution to change any of them?
Bro what???
What now bro
Yes
The humans on Fenris got some genetic modification done to them in the past
Explicitly
I mean they did have enought time to also have natural evolution
Also most people dying of cancer before it became common to test peoples died of "symptoms" of cancers that we didn't know why for
But they didn't had a reason to change
Since they were dropped already mutated for it
Also skin color irl evolved over like 20000 years.
And we don’t know when Fenris got colonized
Firstly, phrasing 💀
Secondly, everyone was a colonist. Most of them were modified in the past, and are as such, rather diverse.
Also isn't "white" the mutation ?
The dark age of technology was long enough
In fenris maybe
Is more so my point
White would be the mutation, yes
White is the mutation for humans in general
"Phrasing" this is archer buddy
No in rl
In the empirum anything is anything
Black skin came about like 1.2 million years ago evolutionarily approximately
Well we don't have skin from primative humans
And then white skin developed over 10-20k years due to the environments people moved to
fellow archer fan in the wild 🫵 
But biology does think being white was a mutation
Mostly cause white skin can adapt more to radiation but not deal with extremes
(pls don't make this about race this is biology)
"races" come from biology though
Yes but people wanna make it like a moral thing
And this is science only
We all just humans
How often are new chapters introduced into lore. I'd like to see a native american themed chapter. I don't believe there is one yet
I don't think anyone here was doing so
As often as they're needed for
Y'all are amazing
There are some Native American Chapters, the Dark Angels in ye old edition had Native American iconography
Deathwing used to have native american theming for some reason
Depends on the Codex focus, and narrative event going on at the time.
I would say space wolves
doesn't raven guard have some bits
Space wolves are like
Space Wolves have nothing like the Native American
Viking/Norse stuff but fucked up
Disney Viking
A bit yeah. Though more Pacific Islander
The Pacific Islander stuff is more clearly seen in one of their sucessors
🦈
carcharodons for sure ya
Ok I don't wanna make this weird but how about the khorne marines
But they have like the similar style of tattoo/symbology on vehicles
if someone wants to make an OC native American chapter that would be sick
Mostly cause resemblesse to chupacabra
Werewolves aren't Native American folklore either (or at least uniquely/specifically)
They do have some variants of them that are though
World eaters? They’re like Greek/generic gladiators
Go Obsidian Jaguars, my unbeloved Aztec space marine chapter
A warband with that stuff would be interesting
Or sons of malice
Weren't those meant to be Black Panthers references ?
Oh shit they're canon?
To be fair even the thousand sons are Aztec based
No ?
In simbology
Is the salamanders' skin color just a result of Nocturne's radiation or do Vulkan's genetics also come into play?
They are they just have 0 lore
It’s from their gene seed
People on nocturne are just, normal darker skin tones generally
No idea but if they were meant to be they missed the mark a lot by going with a chapter master named Ahulic Xotzin
What symbology tie the TSons to the Aztecs
Oh my bad is egyptian
I must be thinking of another chapter then
Ok im confused cuz we literally just had an argument where it was stated its not their geneseed that does that 😭
I got confused for a second there
As far as we know the people on nocturne don’t look like that normally with the whole
Extremely black skin and glowing red eyes
They just have normal black/brown skin or other skin tones more rarely and normal eyes
That was removed though or just forgotten
I'd like to see a white scars successor that is plains Indian inspired
Scalp taking, counting coup, lots of feathers
removed, cause it wasn't really well made.
Like not as bad as the Pygmies in fantasy, but not great still
The sons of malice did pratice cannibalism and scalping by culture
But that's not native American
Would space marines be amazing gamers
That's tribal in general
Like would they be masters at csgo and fortnite
Great reflexes, good eyes/body coordination, able to survive without food for a while longer
Sure
We already have those
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Do you guys think tyberos would order happy meals for himself
This man is a gamer marine
Bro
did I miss an entire space marine skin color debate
He has an enhancement for aim bot
Bro Tyberos literally eats people
tf lmfao
We kept it about science
I hope that's not against the rules
Well I mean he is a space shark
You're banned.
💀
💀

Welp sorry I talked about something forbidden I didn't know
We were arguing with the average space marine fanon enjoyer and we literally had to get into evolution vro 🥀
Will miss yall
Guh
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where the fuck did you even get that
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From my friends discord server
Also can we talk about how fulgrim would literally be broken if he wasn't so self centered
That's literally most Slaaneshi daemons and princes.
Lucious is broken tho
Slaaneshi daemons are usually the fastest, most skilled, can be powerful psykers, and are usually adequately armored.
When I read about how he died to a mine and possessed the body of the adeptus mechanicus that did it
I was like wtf
Just a menial, not a member of the cult
In the tabletop they are one of the strongest comp armies
But to be fair tzeentch should have the best psykers
To nerf them, Slaaneshi champions are also some of the foulest gooners ever to walk, or are supermassively autistic about a single pursuit.
Or should he?
Too bad they're currently expensive as shit
vine thud
Jokes on you I print proxies
(I don't play tournaments)
They're just like me fr
(Both)

Gw is sending hitmen to your house you need to RUN
To be fair 180€ for base marines isn't acceptable pricing
That's actual robbery
40€ for lucious is totally worth tho
???
My lawyer said for legal reasons my balls are protected under copyright and I shall not show them
Also hey I'm printing self made models and not selling them
For personal use only
I like this one lmao
Ur right tho
LMAO
Not morally correct but factual
THANKS, BUT NOT THE SUPPORT I AM LOOKING FOR PAL
I HATE IT HERE
I have more, but this one came to mind lol
EU gaming moment
Twink gaming
Also why are tau so hard to find in stores
will the report work (no)
Everytime I bought a tau model I had to online order it
steammmm moment
world peace will be attained when steam actually enforce their offensive content policy
they have one, they just don't car
actual lore question in lore chat (scandalous)
what's the lore on guevesa using battlesuits?
I'm at work atm
I thought it was a myth
Most of humans on Tau army are like kroot carnivores
You use them to bait then nuke the opponent
not in lore tho
A renegade inquisitor was able to pilot a crisis suit (although modified for a human) so it is possible for a human to be granted the honour to pilot one
they'd totally let me pilot one
That blue xenussy got him questioning his loyalty to the emperor 💀
I mean relatively better life quality plus the chance to pilot a fucking mech? sign me up
Guess you cluld say they all got blue waffles
Not allowed usually
But there’s some instances
The wonders of the MOBA community
What acid strip is this?...
i was in the eu tf2 comp scene
it gets worse
it's just a eu valve game thing
Wonderful
I love kazoomer kirnya
my favorite old person
Guys is the black legion fun to play?
I found them cause of abbadon
But I don't even know their playstyle
Im gonna buy abbadon anyways tbh
They’re the archetypical csm playstyle
Good shooting, better melee, marine durability
So they are space marines but chaos
Their themed detachment encourages taking less or no cultists
I mean yeah
That is what chaos space marines usually means.
Ok noice
I mean the emperors children have their all in or go back style
Thousand sons have the infiltration play
I guess chaos marines are the average at everything guys
Emperors children and thousand sons are chaos marines
uhg, i cant believe gw sells them still
even then
the warcry warband's dont look much different lmao
holy image quality
its basically the same
gave his ass impact frames for this
He deserves it smh
Yes, kill him
As a Veigar main having to lane Vs Ekko is one of the most miserable experiences
Laning vs Ekko is misery
Yes but you can't make a chaos marine army with them
The chaos marine faction is chaos undivided
honestly I need to explore more destruction factions
because seeing the troggoth models in the new battleforce boxes was cool
Ekko, Yasuo, Fizz and Vlad are like my four most miserable lane opponents
Ok I'm gonna say the dirty thing
Chaos undivided are the good guys
End the corpse emperor
my perma bans for every lane are
Teemo for top
Akali for mid
Shaco for jungle
either Ashe or samira for bot
Leona or Tahm for sup
Stop talking politic.
He's the best unc around
It always the joes at the bottom get hit.
Manipulated by the top dogs.
The corpse emperor doesn't like them
Chaos is an insider job.
Actually they are the atheist
Fabulous denies gods
I pretty much only play mid, if I'm playing Veigar I'll ban Yasuo and if I'm Annie I'll ban Xerath
Abby was one of the top of the corpse E, then he turns being the top of the other side?
He doesn't workship chaos
He just saw all the lies
By the end of his books
See Bin Laden, former CIA top dog.
The dropsite massacre was an inside job. Bush knew.
He saw the weakness of Horus
He knows emperor isn't the way for humanity
Abbadon is what the big E used to be
An atheist that uses his enemies as folder to make humankind survive
sheeple don't know this
Would they allow me?
Different flag, same method.
Random human no
You die, I die, everyone dies.
I dont die
Abbadon doesn't kill without an end goal
Chaos undivided is at both ends of the bell curve
Abbadon uses chaos as the enemies of my enemy
Once the big E dies abbadon won't need chaos
Dude he literally drinks daemon blood moonshine
he does it ironically dw
For empowerment
Holy based
Its for the end goal
Buy into propaganda... poor guy.
All factions are propaganda for godsake
Chaos undivided is just the we don't workship nothing but humankind
They are what the emperor would want
Except for like
That's the thing, they say that while actively do the opposite.
The soul selling to chaos
Chaos is just more honest
this has to be ragebait
Abbadon didn't sell his soul
Are you sure
Necron???
are you shore
Imagine the avg imperium worker, getting ground to paste working 18 hour shifts until he dies, unknown and unremembered
And turn to husks of beings with time due to trauma
literal slave to the system, who represents most imperial workers
chaos is way better
I am
Abbadon whole lore is about how he uses chaos, chaos doesn't use him
If anything abbadon is a chaos god himself
To be fair, if someone like me is gone, who but by immediate family would remember after a while?
The family would moving on as well.
I still remember my greatfather
You see the funny part about that is that isn't how chaos works
That's why abbadon is cool
Cause he is what big E was
Big E also used the chaos gods
And he didn't fall to chaos
I think the Imposter would be very dangerous in the Imperium
Wait
I'm thinking of The Thing
Lmfao
Morgana is my perma support ban because I hate the Shield of Nuh Uh
I should rewatch that movie lol.
It especially counters my Karma because they have infinite time to react to my W
Does the tyranids have any properties akin to The Thing? Do they spread like an infection
Their form is fixed, they don't transform like The Thing.
Dumbass cat
Can't even have an identity crisis right
I know
fuckass cat
bro borderline harassing a sexual harassment victim constantly
He's just a silly little guy its ok
"b but he's a harmless little critter who could never fulfill his desires so it doesn't matter that he harasses women" is one of the most appalling character tropes that Japan just adores shitting out
Granted Morgana is supposed to be a gentleman but he still overdoes it sometimes
Just like Kon or whatever from Bleach
He's based
Trying to watch Bleach and every time Kon is on the screen I have to physically restrain myself from turning that shit off
It's so unbearable
Honestly I don't think abbadon would fall for the chaos gods
Red hair girl felt like a self insert tbh
I think the same way peterabo is a deamon prince of chaos undivided
Abbadon can turn to the god of chaos undivided
She's ok
Better than average
I played most of base P5 years ago and semi recently tried P5R and the way she was just shoehorned in
Kinda like how big E didnt want to turn into godhood and did
But ruined by "sorry I can't help you save the world I have gymnastics or smth"
I like that the billionaire's daughter turned against him
I forget how well that was done because it was years ago but neat
It was terrible
Haru is the worst character in the game
She has zero development
Good concept bad execution I guess
Also I just realized wait chaos marines allows you to have champions from all chaos factions
Still better integrated then Marie in P4 golden lol
Just not the marines
Makoto was probably the most intentionally-developed character
Or uhh
Blue hair guy
Basically you can't take noise marines
Matthew Mercer Man
But you can take lucious
Marie is a lot better
As a character
I agree
I'm gonna make the dark custodes army
I like 4
It's just chaos primarchs and relevant characters
(they aren't custodes)
4's second remake is coming
Tbf neither did P3R
But the va in 3p was shit right
In 3 it was
Not the best lol
Reload’s VA in English is pretty much a universal improvement
Ok I'm gonna convert everyone to chaos undivided armies with a single sentence
You can have all chaos primarchs and lucious in the same army

I’m not sure how to feel about P4’s voice acting changes
I still think that junpei is the best "best friend" character development wise
But they haven’t shown anything yet
And his reload va is amazing
He also kills everything
My GOAT
So I get to like him for more than one reason
Absolutely fucking ruining the bridge fight against strega by critting one, then the other, then both
GOAT
Also junpei being the crit focused physical attacker in P3 is always funny
Not the actual boxer
Though Akihiko is more utility ig
Second coming of junpei in Metaphor with Strohl
10/10
Basillio is funnier
With the weakness stuff lol
Yeah but basillio isn't as hot
Props to basillio for being an actually good last party member though
Yep
Metaphor refantazio’s message of violence is the answer to violent racism/social Darwinism in funny as fuck
Someone is facist, the answer is to kill him
What did ATLUS mean by this
During the elections no less
Everytime I look that Personage, I think of No More Hero.
Also props to that one racist woman who literally never stops being racist throughout the entire game lol
Funny as shit
What the one at like the beginning of the capital
Look
Not always the first
Sometimes people talk to the guard first, who is just kind of racist
Also the innkeeper who isn’t actually racist but your presence would make his sales worse so he’s complicit instead 
You got so many different “fun” flavors of racism in metaphor
That’s an SMT moment lol
I beat most encounters in the last third of the game in 1 move
The moment I saw it was press turn
For free
Miracle Cirque my beloved
Does the Emperor have a fursona?
Reminder that the Agitator zealot plays one of your political opponents
Yes, that's why half of the primarches are furry.
The Lion and Russ, who's third?
Idk Corax and sanguinius I guess
Horus
Oh he said half, I thought you said three
Vulkan
Na Vulkan is a Scalie
Still animal
Totally different
Zootopia discrimination now?
World eater was called War Hounds, which is a furry as well.
All xeno's if you ask me
Eh I wouldn't mix Russ with them
Im sorry but Mr Wolf Wolfington is going in there
he deserves it
If Russ is not there, then no one is.
The price of being an alpha wolf pack leader, is that you are a furry.
Me, I'm just a guy in a human team.
it's the price of saying wolf or something wolf related every 2 words you utter
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1nzagx8/im_questioning_what_had_i_done_to_make_the/ guys I think these people have a fear of women
Fulgrim's fursona is a twink
The algorithm trying to shove culture war slop down someone’s throat
My favorite
Yea, my TikTok has recently went from funny videos to just straight up nazi dogwhistle shit every other video, I've had to click not interested so many times and it keeps coming back.
Saw this one this morning, its sad people get this obsessed with shit
Oh man that guy is like a prime-a twat
you can tell from the views on all the periods they were made in for the sake of chud grifting as well lol
the chuddies
https://fxtwitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1974901230012105187 you're getting a propaganda tweet because it's hilarious
🇨🇳 #China - 🇮🇳 #India: Photos released by a well-known propaganda bureau of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) show a Chinese soldier armed with a spiked weapon along the Himalayan border with India, where both sides have banned the use of firearms or other projectile weapons.
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︀︀Clashes in the region often involve hand-to-hand combat, and at times, reports of experimental "radiation weapons" which usualy leads to soldiers vomiting and incapacitated without breaking no-live-shots rule.
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︀︀The post was shared with the caption, "We are going medieval on the Indians," from the Chinese side.
Chudformers
"radiation weapons"
this post has a cool and interesting comment
but also buy another space marine combat patrol now
fire line skippy
Also uh
we do know femtodes are actually properly coming to HH
cant wait for that

wew
more talons of the emperor please
but seriously I do kind of like that comment in some ways
It was from one of my friend's pals who has been working with GW for a long time in the miniature department mostly
he saw them as he was leaving apparently?
Ngl it sounds "basic" enough to be legit
when was the last time custodes got new models
I forgot despite being a fan
fuckkk
and I mean new and not plastic versions of older stuff
7e
Deldar...
bleak
Harlequin
No new models since 2015
(unless we count Kyganil, where we would have been 2020)
Yeah custards are definitely getting an update for HH
dw they just got a new combat patrol 
I really don't count new characters as full models imo
Holyshit is that Asriel Deltarune
Bout time the imperium finally got some models

Sometime I get random yt video recomendation of fnaf theories, I hardly can understand how deep those fans have gone for that setting
Oh god
I think the the guy who made the games is as lost as you are
As if the tithe wasnt controversial enough lmao
How do we know previous custodes helmet less models aren't also women but just really low resolution
Yeah this is actually about as huge since they are finally getting minis
I think at some point there is a thing where what ever he write people are going to see what they wanna see
Custodes woman characters miniature ?
Time for another community Exodus to that other religious tabletop edgy game
It's definitely just John Warhammer
Founder and owner of Warhammer 40,000
He made the other 39,999 other Warhammer himself too
Trench Crusade does have quite a few named women as big characters
Chud 40k fans fleeing to Battletech, only to realize in horror that 50% of the cast is women
Doesn't trench crusade have that gooner unit
They have a few iirc
the witch ?
That already happened
Trench crusade's devs said they dont want fascist fans

