#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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compared to normal humans

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Nah

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they're around the same

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but Kin are like

sudden compass
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Not like ogryn levels of strength

arctic talon
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almost always in fucking power armor

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lol

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so their base strength doesn't matter

crystal forum
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i refuse to believe a true dwarf fan would ask for tall dwarves

sudden compass
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But stronger than a human by leagues

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That sucks though

arctic talon
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also funnily enough

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a lot of the LoV weapons

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are branded

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or have brand names

sudden compass
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Branded?

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Brand names?

crystal forum
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they take pride in forging tech

arctic talon
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yeah

sudden compass
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Like what, a soda line or some shit?

arctic talon
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yeah

storm jungle
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Yea

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leagues are very corpo-like

sudden compass
storm jungle
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its not that weird

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we literally do it today

arctic talon
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I.E

EtaCarn
Hylas
SiNR
MATR
Sagitaur

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ect.

storm jungle
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craftsmanship is a big trading point

arctic talon
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also SP

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SP is the weirdest

crystal forum
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also the funny thing is space dwarves are master craftmens like you'd expect but instead of like making good swords they make good tech

arctic talon
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we don't know what the abreviation is for

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lol

storm jungle
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they make good swords too

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they make tons of shit

crystal forum
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true

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im just saying it's the 40k equivalent of craftsmanship

sudden compass
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Just anything?

arctic talon
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They make conversion beamers

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only

sudden compass
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Or SP do specific stuff?

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Conversion beamers?

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The fuck is that

arctic talon
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its a weapon that converts matter

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to energy

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the mechancius likes them

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and so do the LoV

sudden compass
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Hmmm

crystal forum
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these guys are awesome

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i wish they had more lore

storm jungle
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literally just TF2 engineer

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based as fuck

young pecan
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Oh yeah what are LoV and Mechanicus relations like generally?

storm jungle
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lmao

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the Kin are everything the Admech stand against

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Innovation

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Slavery

young pecan
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Yeah

storm jungle
arctic talon
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this is how they're laid out

young pecan
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Wait slavery

arctic talon
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The mechaincus loves slavery

sudden compass
arctic talon
storm jungle
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Yeah admech make extensive use of slaves, servitors etc

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Kin have no such thing

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they are the standing proof also that servitors are not necessary lol

arctic talon
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the closest to slaves the Kin have are dumb AI

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lol

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which aren't sentient or sapient

storm jungle
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yeah and even THATS stretching it

young pecan
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Oh that made it sound like the LoV has slaves, and that admech wouldn't like that

storm jungle
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its like referring to a Roomba as a slave

crystal forum
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when the mechanical human is yelling at you about abominable intelligence while you're readying your bolt cannon

storm jungle
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Yeah the most Kin will do with Admech is simple distanced trade, and even then the yare VERY careful.

arctic talon
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anyways here are all the named Leagues

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yeah the Mechanicus are like

storm jungle
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its why Ironkin visors also got disguise filters

arctic talon
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the most insufferable

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part of the imperium for the LoV

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they ask questions

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too many questions

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Its best for them to not interact at all

young pecan
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"Why do you innovate"

crystal forum
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dont votann have idioms that they treat as law

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like it just is how it is

young pecan
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LoV reaction

arctic talon
sudden compass
arctic talon
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They don't have sports

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they do have other contests though

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like who can drink the most beer

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or who can shoot the most humans

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orks

crystal forum
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ale

storm jungle
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Brü*

crystal forum
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do kin still hate orks like squats used to

arctic talon
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Brü is a general term

storm jungle
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yes

arctic talon
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for all drinks

storm jungle
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also squats?

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you mean dwarves across all fiction

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they all fucking hate orks

crystal forum
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i thought they hated elves

storm jungle
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they dont

arctic talon
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also this is obviously the iinspiration for Bru's naming

storm jungle
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why would they

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lol

arctic talon
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also no, the elf hate thing is like

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Literally

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only like

crystal forum
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because in lord of the rings

storm jungle
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its non-existant

arctic talon
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LOTR vaguely

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and not even

storm jungle
crystal forum
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it's not vaguely

arctic talon
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its not even hate

young pecan
storm jungle
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thats memes lol

arctic talon
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yeah

storm jungle
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its literally just disgruntled relations

arctic talon
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they don't hate each other in the books

crystal forum
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elves used to hunt dwarves

arctic talon
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they just don't like each other

crystal forum
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in lotr

storm jungle
vagrant fox
crystal forum
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islander nord

vagrant fox
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Brók is pants hyr is hot

storm jungle
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no

arctic talon
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anyways here's some maps of their stuff

storm jungle
crystal forum
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since when do you speak swedish sigsen

vagrant fox
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I don't

crystal forum
vagrant fox
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Faroese and Danish and a dialect of Faroese that's just Norwegian

dapper gyro
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The scale is different, but the principle is intimately the same. Look at any war torn place and see how the richer ones always bail out of the place 1st chance while the people are thrown into the meat grinder.

crystal forum
storm jungle
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amongus

crystal forum
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somebody should subtitle it

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i cant read lips

storm jungle
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you do it

crystal forum
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on second thought

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it's fine

valid needle
storm jungle
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I legit assumed its just

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Brü = Brew

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lol

young pecan
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Same

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I mean it makes sense

crystal forum
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next you'll tell me tf2 blu team is inspired by the color

young pecan
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They kept the word but spelled it funny over time

vagrant fox
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Irn bru tastes so bad I don't understand the scottish

crystal forum
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is it just a high alcohol beer

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those usually taste like shit

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also IPA sucks

valid needle
vagrant fox
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It's just a fizzy drink

crystal forum
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leaf lover special

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golden ale is peak

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idc about the sour stuff

young pecan
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Maybe I'm elfpilled but beer just fucking sucks

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I took as much time trying to acquire a taste for it as I did with wine but never came around to it

vagrant fox
crystal forum
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i cant stand wine

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some people get a kick from champaign

young pecan
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I like sweeter wines or nice wholesome(?) ones like cabernet

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Only a red wine liker

crystal forum
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mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all

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so tell me why shouldn't it be true

young pecan
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i get a kick out of brew

crystal forum
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i get a kick out of brew

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ha

young pecan
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mah mah mahhh mahhhh

vagrant fox
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Well I'll give the votann that their names aren't fractionally as annoying as space wolf ones

azure cliff
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how much time passed between cadia blowing up and the start of darktide?

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is this the right place to ask that?

unique bronze
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I mean im assumign Darktide is already at m41 or m40

vagrant fox
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Ignoring that time flows irregularly depending on where you are I think 12ish at most but I forget

unique bronze
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Thats actually a lot recent than I thought

vagrant fox
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It should take place during the Indomitus Crusade which has been condensed into roughly that timespan

azure cliff
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mostly wondering to try a gague the ages of cadian rejects-- so i think that timeframe makes sense considering

dapper gyro
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It is in the middle of the Indomitus Crusade, and Roboute is active for a while.

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The current timeline in the 10e is about 20-25 years into M42.

daring creek
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Would bluey survive 40k

cyan merlin
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Depends on if we’re considering cartoon/family friendly logic or if Bluey is just an anthropomorphic dog thrown into 40k

young pecan
cyan merlin
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Or just straight-up killed under the label “mutant”

dapper gyro
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Warhammer isn't doing shit.

cyan merlin
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I’m surprised nukes aren’t used in warhammer more than they are

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Like
Really? No nuke bolter ammo?
Seems an obvious choice

crystal forum
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but vortex weaponry is more commonly seen

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which is basically just a nuke

cyan merlin
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Maybe they mix the uranium into the manufactorum metals to keep everything hot

dapper gyro
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Nuke in 40K is most there as a scaling tool.

crystal forum
dapper gyro
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For bolter... 40K uses diamond tip as the penetrator for some reason, so don't ask too much from it.

crystal forum
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diamantine tip

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Standard bolts comprise the following components: outer casing, propellant base, main charge, mass reactive detonator cap, depleted deuterium core, diamantine tip.[1] The calibre of the standard round .75 and it possesses a super-dense metallic core.[11] Standard bolts can also feature a depleted uranium core.[94]

cyan merlin
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It’s funny that it’s only .75 cal

crystal forum
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huh there's 28 week later clips in the new movie

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so they aren't just pretending like it didn't happen

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why did people keep coping about that before it was released

cyan merlin
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I still need to watch the other movies

hallow plover
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Funny, I just watched 28 years later tonight

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I liked it. All 3 movies have different vibes. I wonder how the next one will be

unique bronze
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Kind of a funny ending on 28 years tho

hallow plover
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From the teasers the next one picks up from there

unique bronze
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some bunch of gangster lookin ahh doing summersaults while the theme of barny or whatever plays in the background

hallow plover
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But yea i wasn't expecting this ending lol

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I might have missed something but you see the infected arriving in paris at the end of the second movie. Why is the UK the only quarantined place 28 years later

crystal forum
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im still watching

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so far the style is very different than the others

unique bronze
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I have no ideaKEKW_ogryn

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First half was a banger, but i kinda dont like how the second halfs direction went

crystal forum
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it's like this movie series is about whatever the new director wants it to be

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which honestly is kinda cool

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sequels that dont just try to copy the past are way better

hallow plover
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It's a coming of age movie

crystal forum
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the editing is a little fucked though

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and slightly annoying

hallow plover
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I get why people are turned off by the second half change of vibe but I think it heightens the movie

unique bronze
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I just thought it'd turn into something more grim or morbid towards the end knowing the other 2 movies

crystal forum
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anyways i'll be back after i finish

hallow plover
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Ooc spoilers:

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The sound direction is 👌

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Iphone recording is weird at first but you get used to eventually

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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oh hey the sycamore gap tree is briefly shown in 28 years later

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so that was filmed before 2023 when the two inbred brits cut it down

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i just looked it up for fun and they both were sentenced to 4 years in prison lmao

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nvm they CGI'd the tree

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the wonders of technology

crystal forum
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welp finished 28 years later

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i think watching the three movies in a row would be a true nightmare blunt rotation

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also the alpha's actor has the biggest fucking shlong i have ever seen on a human being

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i cant believe i cried to a zombie movie

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IT WAS A PROSTHETIC DICK

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i had to look it up

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i knew it looked off!!!!!

celest dome
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Jay is able to notice if a dick is organic or no. loregryn

crystal forum
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the way it flopped around looked more like a soft silicone toy than a real meat rod

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both of which i have seen enough of

celest dome
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Fair

crystal forum
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the reason it's a prosthetic btw is because of laws involving child safety on film sets

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the main actor being 13 years old and all

median star
crystal forum
storm jungle
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the fuck

crystal forum
storm jungle
crystal forum
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nah

storm jungle
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yah

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fucker

crystal forum
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prove it

storm jungle
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its just *why the fuck are you bothered by it would matter if its a prosthetic

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you wanna see his real dick?

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lmao

crystal forum
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see

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you dont get it

storm jungle
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I do

crystal forum
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this is a guy thing

storm jungle
crystal forum
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it's very important

storm jungle
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wish Guys were real

crystal forum
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did you really ask that

storm jungle
storm jungle
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nope

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not an option

crystal forum
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why

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this is 2025

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we can see dicks on tv

storm jungle
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yeah but its not needed here lol

median star
storm jungle
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🪨 👀

median star
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someone else just said this me in vc theirs a conspiracy to kill me w rocks now wth

storm jungle
crystal forum
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28 days later starts off with benedict arnold's man cylinder in full view

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what is up with this movie series

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is this just a british thing

storm jungle
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i think its a You thing

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why the fuck are you obsessed over cock

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you fucking weirdo

unique bronze
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did someone change his name lmao

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istg it did not say gay before KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
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He's had that name Gay for very much very long

crystal forum
crystal forum
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REDUNDANT QUESTION

queen laurel
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He is kind of known in this chat as being so gay he rides Dicks the same way a skilled bretonian knight rides a horse

unique bronze
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god dayum

queen laurel
# unique bronze god dayum

It really took you this long to notice that he's like so gay an alien with no concept of gay people would probably realize it immediately

crystal forum
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i had to change fruit to gay because people in other channels weren't getting the message

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beware: deranged homosexual

unique bronze
languid meadow
opaque coyote
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The Freak (tm)

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Greater Daemon of Slaanesh

celest dome
spring cairn
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not you specifically, just NA at large

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I agree with that somewhat

crystal forum
crystal forum
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we actually have sex ed

spring cairn
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ice type americans

crystal forum
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no not the other canafucks

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i mean the only respectable people in north america

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the ones who speak something other than english and spanish

celest dome
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Ah yes, the Inuit clown_hadron

crystal forum
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they count too

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really anybody that isn't anglo or spanish speaking

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mexicans are the biggest prudes

spring cairn
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yeah ig quebec is alright

crystal forum
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they're like mega catholics

crystal forum
spring cairn
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you guys are like scotland kind of

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the cool part of that "one place"

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secede and join the eu

crystal forum
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well not the EU part

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i wish though

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would be hilarious

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also i fucking hate north america

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we're the only place here that has actual affordable education and shit

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the rest of this country is still super unaffordable

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sex

rocky gale
crystal forum
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oh wait no i dont think you have google where you're from

rocky gale
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The new Drukhari Codex specifically mentions Urien Rakarth, Grotesques Sslyth and Kheradruakh

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Have hope sisters

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The first Mandrake will return to us

unique bronze
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Sick sword

rocky gale
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Next edition will be ours

dapper gyro
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But it is just the muzzle flash of the Space Marines.

rocky gale
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Tomorrow belongs to me

storm jungle
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goddamn Avian Blindness

rocky gale
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Xenos blindness, can't tell them apart. They all look the exact same to him

storm jungle
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Humans included

rocky gale
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After reading through it I quite like the Drukhari codex

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It actually feels like a proper codex, tons of art and lore and history (Guess they had to do something with all the space since we've got like 20 datasheets now)

storm jungle
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a lot of it is still recycled art

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boooo

rocky gale
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What about the cool Coven one?

hallow saddle
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i really wish theyd commission more new art for each codex

storm jungle
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they KINDA do but its like very sparse.

hallow saddle
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come onnnnn GG u make tons of money already

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yeah they do but more

storm jungle
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Back in our day every new codex had like new art in every page

hallow saddle
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thats what i mean

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just take it up a notch

storm jungle
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Yeah that was one of the best parts of buying/looking in a codex, it was cool as hell

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they just cut back so much on the lore and artwork

hallow saddle
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yeah 🙁

storm jungle
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its sometimes like a coin-toss lol

rocky gale
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Not an issue if you just forget about the old artwork and think it's new everytime

storm jungle
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no

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id rather not go the dementia route

sudden compass
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Its the banshee queen

rocky gale
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If its not new why can't I find it online

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Checkmate

sudden compass
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When are we gonna wipe out the Drukhari?

celest dome
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Who is We ?

hallow saddle
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me and paul

stone idol
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In Darktide are we ever going to fight that demon in the hourglass? That spews out those tentacles? Like do we even know who or what it is?

storm jungle
rocky gale
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It's peak

rocky gale
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I'm not normally for Covens, but that art is so cool

stone idol
celest dome
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The Corruptors are just the symptoms of the nascent Daemonic infestation, they're not a specific daemon afaik

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Kinda like Glitchling

stone idol
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Oh I didn't know that

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I thought it was a huge demon

hallow plover
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@crystal forum what did you think about the movie, jayman

rocky gale
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Doesn't Mazozi have a line where she says that the Corrupters are all part of a single Daemon that's spreading it's tendrils throughout the entire Hive City

stone idol
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I think Mazozi did say that like the cult master said in the hourglass

celest dome
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They are also present in the Metalfab

celest dome
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Well with 4 overbeing

stone idol
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I don't think we will fight that said single demon, like Wolfer

rocky gale
stone idol
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I do hope at somepoint we can fight him

rocky gale
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All Daemons aren't one single Daemon wut

stone idol
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Or the cult master

celest dome
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They are part of their Chaos God

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All of the daemons of Tzeentch are per se part of Tzeentch itself

rocky gale
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Okay but the line is about someone asking how there are so many of them and Mazozi points out that they aren't seperate, it's all one Daemon. That's not the same as saying all Daemons are technically part of their God

stone idol
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That would be a great end boss

celest dome
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Which we only see a little bit in that one mission

hallow saddle
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corruptors in the torrent too

storm jungle
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I love this fandom 🙏

queen laurel
# storm jungle

OK like what does he want us to say the exact number something along the lines of 1 billion and 300 and 10105 or some shit?

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Man some warhammer fans are just dumb KEKW_ogryn

hallow plover
celest dome
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Some people just don't understand being in open settings

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And seek closure

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Same thing with VT2/DT and quite a few games

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Where they're just trying to see us "Killing Wolfer" "Saving Atoma"...

south dome
unique bronze
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To be fair I see it here in lore chat too KEKW_ogryn

south dome
storm jungle
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"How many are left"

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We dont fucking know lol

storm jungle
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Its directly tied to the homebrew aspect where things are presented in a finite way but in reality are infinite.

unique bronze
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I mean not saying its bad, KEKW_ogryn it is an open setting as someone mentioned

storm jungle
unique bronze
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just think its funny seeing someone try and make small talk about a 40k question and then it gets shot down by "its becuz of this" and then its just over KEKW_ogryn

dapper gyro
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It is like asking for the 2 missing Primarches...

storm jungle
dapper gyro
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They are not just there, that's it.

storm jungle
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sometimes the said discussion makes zero sense

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or is deconstructed by stuff we already know

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(because this fandom cant read anything)

hallow saddle
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Ultramarines fan wanting to follow imaginary rules

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figures

rocky gale
dapper gyro
rocky gale
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Use google better

dapper gyro
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Therefore, I appreciate that you actually read.

median star
dapper gyro
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I have an idea, I will turn you into a google.

storm jungle
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such a braindead sphere of warhammer too

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Such high intelligence questions

unique bronze
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Yeaahh... nah

dapper gyro
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Me reading Halo lore, having about as many inconsistency as 40K.

unique bronze
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I think theres genuinely curious people out there that wanna get into 40k but not like this KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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Yall got no idea how bad it gets believe me

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I hate it BECAUSE of that reason

shadow plover
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This is nuts

dapper gyro
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Funny enough, Starcraft is pretty consistent.

storm jungle
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people that ask genuine questions are drowned out by slop like this

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or just primarchprimarchprimarchprimarchprimarch

queen laurel
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You succeeded the test

unique bronze
median star
storm jungle
shadow plover
dapper gyro
rocky gale
# storm jungle

"I presume Fulgrim was probably the first" yea because he's the funny heeheehoo degeneracy sex guy he must have been the first.

storm jungle
daring creek
celest dome
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No

daring creek
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Why :(

celest dome
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Psycho indoctrination basically prevent it

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Same-ish thing for GSC Space Marines

daring creek
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:(

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I meant this as another brain dead question:(

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Can't have shit

storm jungle
daring creek
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HA

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But if theyre fresh fresh new fans...I guess I can understand that sort of question?

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Refering to the krieg one**

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I don't think they'd recruit from an ex traitor world.

green loom
daring creek
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Unless I'm entirely wrong

green loom
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The "le marine too stronk and willpower" stuff is just marine fan wanking

unique bronze
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wasnt there something about them trying to make their own version of space marines

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but was just.. considerably weaker

dapper gyro
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Damn, even a DA marines pfp makes fun of marine wankers.

shadow plover
# queen laurel You succeeded the test

Wait is the doohickey broken? It states the item should be destroyed upon a successful test and the effect would be permanent, but after the combat it's still on my character and I have the ability to attempt the test again

queen laurel
shadow plover
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I had it once during the combat, but I also had full momentum after the test so I'm not sure if that broke it somehow

queen laurel
shadow plover
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Don't think so

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Or I have the device but not the paradox solved status

queen laurel
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Honestly at that point I just don't know I don't really run that item because I'm a warrior main

celest dome
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A SM could arrange to have some Indoctrination from Krieg, but none do

surreal nest
surreal nest
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Isnt the warp or eye of terror pretty much visible throughout the galaxy now or some shit

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Idk how mfs think the imperium is hiding that now

storm jungle
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Its not that visible no

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also its not about hiding that, its about stopping the further spread of chaos corruption

unique bronze
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really?

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You'd think a big rift in the galaxy would be

storm jungle
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Light years are a fucking massive distance

unique bronze
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what about planets just close to it

storm jungle
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Well yeah of course they see em, the knowledge of the Eye is public to most near the sectors close to Cadia

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again its not about these, its about stopping the spread of Chaos corruption

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most people that dont know just chalk up the Eye to a weird stellar phenomena where "traitors" come out of

surreal nest
storm jungle
surreal nest
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I love light pollution! I love not seeing shit!

unique bronze
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well who looks up at the sky noaways amirite

surreal nest
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I took a trip to Joshua tree just to rent a far away home and stare at the sky

celest dome
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I really want to one day just spend a week in an area where you have no light pollution

unique bronze
surreal nest
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It felt like escaping civilization

celest dome
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Central Europe

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Smaller continent

rocky gale
celest dome
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Bigger concentration of peoples

dapper gyro
sudden compass
daring creek
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I hate light pollution

sudden compass
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I would think most people do

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Anyone with a brain anyway

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Its so bleak looking up at the sky, knowing there is more out there, but only seeing a small handful of stars

storm jungle
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Also kinda crazy to think most people got no idea what true sky looks like

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i think ive seen it like once my entire life lol

sudden compass
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Its crazy in general to think most things you assume to be common knowledge arent

dapper gyro
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You know what's crazy? The one time I see stars above my city was during a full eclipse. It happened in the middle of the day. For a minute, the moon fully covered the sun, so there was almost no light from the soon nor the city. For that moment, I can see so many things in the sky.

celest dome
#

Do you think GW/BL should rewrite the End Time ?

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Like keeping it ending in the death of the world and the start of AoS

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But changing how it happen

storm jungle
#

Way too much effort and way too long ago

celest dome
#

Making it better

storm jungle
#

seems like needless effort imo

celest dome
#

Maybe that time they'd stop forgetting Skarsnik Sitgryn

rocky gale
#

If we're being real most of the people who complain about End Times have never read anything to do with End Times and still wouldn't read anything if it was redone, they'd just gloat that it was GW admitting defeat.

#

and then they'd probably make a Reddit post about "Age of Shitmar is totally going to be cancelled now"

storm jungle
#

^^^

#

absolutely this

celest dome
#

I do want to clarify that I would want the ET to be rewritten, but not that I dislike AoS

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Infact I quite like it

rocky gale
#

Like End Times sucks, but it's probably best just left alone and that seems to be what GW's doing as well by setting Old World much farther in the past of Fantasy

storm jungle
#

👆

rocky gale
queen laurel
#

The damage is already done

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i wish ET was also written better but it's just not worth it

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They have already dropped the ball on it so hard it cratered onto the floor

celest dome
#

The demo was fun, but it doesn't really look like it'll play quite like the 1st game

cinder pivot
#

Likely a whole lot of gameplay features are not included in the demo. Also the Votann makes an appearance.

#

Gonna hold judgment on release

celest dome
#

Well there is already the move from nameless Tech Priest -> Character

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Which I'm not against

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As we are able to play as Khepra

cinder pivot
#

As for the units going from nameless tech priests to named characters, my friend suspects less customization for each unit compared to the first game

celest dome
#

Well probably, but the Tech Priest were basically the only thing that changed, with the other units getting some upgrades on the course of the game, where here each character seem to be able to focus on different upgrades, with Videx being for Electro Priests, Khepra being Skitarii...

winged jacinth
#

Considering end times was basically an emergency exit for the plot i think it was ok

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Gotta blow everything up somehow before you launch your more profitable successor setting

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Plus im not convinced you could write a satisfying ending with how many threads they had going

storm jungle
#

You could

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the issue is its a fucking massive effort

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theres no bad concept, only bad execution

celest dome
#

It could have been good, sadly it was massively rushed

young pecan
#

blowing the skaven's head up with my slanncel rage

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Is it wholeheartedly ? Or I can just pretend ?

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Well shit

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I probably gotta get some drugs and shit for that

rocky gale
#

Champions of Chaos DLC????

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It was peak

celest dome
#

Am I allowed to say why I'm annoyed at that one ?

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Since ET rewrite won't happen anyway

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Thrones of Decay with Elspeth, Malakai and Tamurkan?

queen laurel
#

Your ability to pick apart Total War dlcs are certainly something

celest dome
#
  • Champions of Chaos should have had each of the Champions inside of their Monogod races (Each race having only 1 character, and each having one that is a Greater Deamons)
    • The Flc Be'lakor should have been a mirror of Archeon by competing to claim the Everchosen spot
  • Forge of the Chaos Dwarf: Should have had a 4th faction, either the Gobla Khan (faction with restricted access to CD units but big focus on Hob goblins and Greenskin slaves) or Hackart the Black (not a CD per se, but did work with them at some point iirc) for a focus on sea control and stuff
  • Shadow of Change: Should have had the Changeling be a LH, as he doesn't lead armies but rather infiltrate other places. Have Aekold as a LL. Have the Blue Scribes as FLC LL
  • Throne of Decay: Have Malakai as a LH, he isn't suited as a LL alongside the other Dwarfs. Instead have Grimm Burloksson
  • Omens of Destruction: Mostly that the OK stuff should have been there in the main dlc
  • Tides of Torments: Sayl should not be Norsca but Warrior of Chaos Undivided (and have mechanics based on tricking the Chaos Gods)
zenith remnant
#

I prefer Old World to AoS, but I don't hate AoS anymore

Even if AoS just threw in discount space marines and obliterated the funny french for no reason

zenith remnant
#

As far as I've seen, the best bits of AoS are when they're using callbacks and reused characters from the Old World

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But again. I don't hate it anymore. Waste of energy.

queen laurel
zenith remnant
#

I will repeat: as far as I've seen. As you may guess, I barely know anything about AoS

That's a neato model, no argument there

celest dome
#

Miniature wise it is leaps above 40k, which was leaps above Battle Fantasy

queen laurel
#

calling them space marines more insulting really

zenith remnant
#

I openly admit I'm speaking from apathy and ignorance here.

celest dome
#

Table top wise, honestly i haven't played it enough, but it is really great compared to battle fantasy

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Lore wise, there are plenty of things that I just scoff at.
But that was the case for battle fantasy too

queen laurel
#

It is way easier to get into compared to 40k

zenith remnant
#

I don't tabletop. I don't have space or money for it.

#

Vidya is much more effecient for enjoying the hobby

rocky gale
#

See there you go, AoS hasn't had a good video game yet

queen laurel
#

I hope it gets good one it's such a fun setting

celest dome
#

And Battle fantasy took a lot of time before it got good vgame

zenith remnant
#

To be fair, by most people's reckoning, 40k didn't get a good one until Dawn of War

queen laurel
#

that too

rocky gale
#

Yea like Fantasy ironically didn't get a good game until it ended

queen laurel
#

It takes a while for people to understand a warhammer setting well yeah

zenith remnant
#

Just talking about it makes me wanna play Vermintide 2

storm jungle
queen laurel
celest dome
storm jungle
#

good riddance to bretonnia too

#

KEK

queen laurel
# storm jungle

Always this yeah and don't forget the sigmarines joke even thpugh they are like

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Far away way more different than a space marine

zenith remnant
#

I mean, I liked that they existed

And Bretonnian Knights are Stormcast Eternals but better

storm jungle
#

They really arent

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they are arrogant piece of shit nobles

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and I say this as someone that has read bretonnian books

queen laurel
zenith remnant
#

Ok that last part is me taking the piss

storm jungle
#

It really isnt

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they actively oppress their populace and kill peasants en-masse

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fighting against monsters doesnt redeem them

celest dome
#

At this point yeah, this is just trolling right ?

storm jungle
#

Probably.

#

I like Bretonnia because its just evil medieval england

queen laurel
#

yeah this guy is probably just trolling

rocky gale
#

What are you on about, the Bretonnian knights are right here.

storm jungle
#

okay ctually IRL medieval england was bad too

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but uhhh

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you get what i mena

storm jungle
queen laurel
zenith remnant
#

You know you don't get to tell me when I'm not telling a joke, right?

Like, feel free to call it a bad joke, but don't declare what my intent is as if it's your decision.

storm jungle
#

anyway

queen laurel
storm jungle
rocky gale
#

My isn't Lady Marrowslobber fetching in her new gown

celest dome
#

Those new nobles, no decency, a gown is to remain inside

queen laurel
#

it's just blood

zenith remnant
#

Don't hate AOS, just don't really care, as nothing I've seen or heard of it over the years really interests me. And it's weird that I'm in a 40k lore channel talking about it.

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

and I see Count Spleenspewer has went back to styling his hair in the Southern style, it suits the angle of his face much better I find.

celest dome
#

||and we do not care||

queen laurel
#

you came in here and said you don't like AOS

zenith remnant
#

Hm. Did I? One sec.

storm jungle
zenith remnant
#

So I did.

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Huh.

zenith remnant
#

Well, I'm an idiot. Caffiene needs to hit faster

lament shoal
#

We get off topic a lot in here dw bout it

celest dome
#

🚬

storm jungle
#

Speaking of

#

reminds me of a message 1 sec

queen laurel
# zenith remnant So I did.

OK so i ask you this did you did you expect people not too reply to your statement when you start a conversation of people here who like the setting?

#

Imagine going to a restaurant and saying you don't like it when there are a group of people enjoying the restaurant how do you think are they gonna react

storm jungle
#

this is some peak shit

zenith remnant
#

shrug

rocky gale
zenith remnant
#

Like I said, I'm the idiot here and don't even know why I started talking, frankly. Bored waiting to clock in, probably.

#

In any event, maybe I'll look into AOS a little more. Do a Lexicanum dive like I did when I was new to 40k.

outer wave
#

Thats a decent idea

queen laurel
#

do keep in mind the lexicanum are much more bare bones because aos is still relatively hidden compared to 40K

zenith remnant
#

Yeah, but I don't trust Fandom. It keeps giving me full page popup ads that are literally just obvious scams

queen laurel
#

so literally lexicanum is your only choice

static wren
#

even worse, there might be gw miniature ads on there

storm jungle
#

Shit's fucked up 😔

zenith remnant
#

Lexicanum in my experience is slow to update on purpose to avoid spoiling recent publications

rocky gale
#

Yea Lexi is much better, we just mean that AoS has less of a wiki presence in some areas

zenith remnant
#

But that may be me being generous

#

Anyway, time for work. Wish me and my fucked up ankle luck.

lament shoal
storm jungle
#

its not the admission

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its just the INSTANT

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"Nevermind"

queen laurel
queen laurel
#

bro he's literally one of the earliest characters in the damn ship 😭

lament shoal
#

Saw the box for the boarding actions terrain at LVO and I now I really want it because it would make for a perfect diorama for my homebrew

zenith remnant
#

Tbf, we interact with him the least

winged jacinth
#

Untill he got the carnival vocator slot i didn't know his name

storm jungle
#

racist

azure cliff
azure cliff
#

most unfortunate case of "he's just like me" 😔

winged jacinth
# storm jungle racist

I think before that he also couldn't change voices so i had never even seen his intro cutscene KEKW_ogryn

daring creek
#

Watching Emperor text to speech

#

If only this was canon...

#

Can the emperor come back and bully everyone pls

dapper gyro
queen laurel
dapper gyro
#

You

#

🤨

queen laurel
dapper gyro
#

On Halo server got bullied to Titanfall...

#

Sad life

hallow saddle
#

Caanok Var 🙏

#

its time for the big man

rocky gale
arctic talon
#

Down to clown

daring creek
#

Daily reminder the only good regiment is the Death Korps of Krieg

young pecan
#

Level Two ragebait

storm jungle
#

^

celest dome
#

I had forgotten that in Castlevania Season 3 you have in the same episode ||Isaac attacking the Wizard||, ||Sypha and Trevor attacking the Priory||, and ||2 different sex scenes||

rocky gale
#

Too many damn sex scenes, like we get it people have sex. Next plot point

celest dome
#

Oh and the 2 sex scenes are part of ||betrayals||
Damn is my memory turning to shit

#

Or maybe it is my attention span that is abysmal

misty vector
#

that isaac scene was so cool

crystal forum
hallow plover
#

good tears or bad tears

crystal forum
#

the mother dying was beautiful i think

#

weird but beautiful

daring creek
#

I feel like this is a furry ero game

hallow plover
#

It's coming out in january

crystal forum
crystal forum
hallow plover
#

28 years is supposed to be a trilogy

spring cairn
#

can they wait for me to catch up before shitting 5 movies a year

#

PLEASE

hallow plover
#

They filmed it back to back

#

It's a direct sequel

crystal forum
#

oh so it's like kill bill

hallow plover
#

Yea

#

The doc really seemed like a kind man

crystal forum
#

ye ofc i love his actor

radiant lance
#

So since the primarchs inherited a trait of the emperor, did leman Russ inherit the emperor's fursona?

young pecan
sour hornet
#

Bruh

#

the emperor was like "no disease shall blight them" when he created the space marines

#

looking at the death guard, that was a fucking lie

sour hornet
young pecan
#

Okay magic bacteria doesn't count

arctic talon
sour hornet
#

Didn't the drukhari scare the actual night haunters

young pecan
#

The emperor also probably at one point said he was a great father

celest dome
#

Sigmar Neoth lied

young pecan
#

Actually no I think he's at least that self-aware

celest dome
#

He didn't see himself as a father tbf

young pecan
#

Yeah that

celest dome
#

They are tools, weapons for his war

arctic talon
#

They shall know no fear

young pecan
#

The sons were always tools to extend himself

arctic talon
#

Is a lot more catchy then

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They actually can feel fear and they have high tolerance to it but their response is muted and modified to not be as much of an issue so they can operate properly

arctic talon
celest dome
#

I mean, that Dune maxime is more difficult to belt out, but is darn catchy

sour hornet
#

It would be cool if that actually was the case

arctic talon
#

Marines have always been able to feel fear

sour hornet
#

Only non-plot relevant marines feel fear

arctic talon
#

GW made it that way

#

Nah

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Plot relevant ones also do

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When the plot demands it

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lol

celest dome
#
"I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
arctic talon
#

Ventris moment

sour hornet
#

Like those loser bozos, in "they shall know no fear"

arctic talon
#

Also Cato

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Also Dante

sour hornet
#

ironic

arctic talon
#

A lot of marines feel fear

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Now that I think about it

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lol

#

Anyways point being it’s meant to be a catchy phrase

#

In old editions it was a rule that let marines reroll morale tests

sour hornet
#

Dante is afraid he'll survive another chapter ending cataclysm

#

Cato Sicarius feels "fear" in an esoteric, strange way

opaque coyote
#

He has lived for so long that he knows that what he's doing is

#

Objectively horrific and wrong

#

But in his PoV, he can't stop.

#

Like he is one of the few SMs that are lkke

#

"I know killing Xenos who literally haven't done anything against us are bad. But I literally cannot stop doing it because my empire demands it, and I have done it for literally hundreds of years."

lament shoal
opaque coyote
#

Whether he wins though

#

Uhhhh

#

insert Mortarion coma here

nocturne crest
#

What's gulliman's win to lose ratio against his brothers?

vital ginkgo
#

Out of the main enemy factions of the imperium which one poses the smallest threat?

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

if you mean tabletop faction

nocturne crest
#

Probably the Ynnari.

arctic talon
#

either the Leagues of Votaan, Tau or craftworld eldar

nocturne crest
#

They've lost some big names that signed up with them.

zenith remnant
zenith remnant
#

And?

#

That barely ever happens.

nocturne crest
#

Just imagine if the Dark Eldar decided to get serious.

zenith remnant
#

They won't

#

Why the hell would they?

#

They don't care about conquest or destruction with regards to the Imperium

#

They're quite content with their own circus tent dimension of Commoragh and they raid whoever's convenient for painmeat and the occasional celestial battery or just for their own amusement

#

The Tau may be less powerful, but they're just as imperialistic and expansionist as the Imperium. The Dark Eldar aren't intent on conquering entire Imperial segmenta, just stealing shit here and there and then fucking back off to goblin world

#

Drukhari are a dying, indolent breed who are just as likely to break apart and self-exterminate themselves the moment either Commoragh suffers a big enough disjunction or someone finally gets lucky and kills Vect, the latter of which immediately causing total civil war

arctic talon
#

well

#

the Drukhari arne't a dying race

#

explictly

#

they don't have population issues

zenith remnant
#

Apart from the murder rate only offset by unrestricted cloning

#

Put it this way: the Drukhari aren't a problem unless you're isolated or you start poking them. The Tau are coming for you with a pulse pistol in one hand and socialized healthcare in the other

arctic talon
#

Yes

#

Except the Tau aren’t big enough

#

yet

crystal forum
#

dark eldar fuck with fringe imperial worlds which coincidentally is also like 70% of the imperium

rose thorn
#

the new space marine heroes are 50 usd lmao

arctic talon
rose thorn
#

Literally that’s the price of 1/3rd of a spear head

#

Every 3 characters sold is 1 spear head

arctic talon
#

💀

#

but yes

#

characters are extremely overpriced

#

in terms of plastic quantity

#

this is due to how fucking expensive moulds are

rose thorn
#

How much are new AOS heroes?

arctic talon
#

45 to 50$ USD

#

for non mounteed stuff and excluding things like, big ones

rose thorn
#

Okay like 45 usd lmao

#

Fair

arctic talon
#

aside from like

#

the deathbringer

#

who is 35$ for some reason

#

LOL

#

blades of khorne get a discont for being unpopular ig?

#

idfk

#

GW's pricing for characters/heros always feels arbitrary and random to me

#

here's the 40k MSRP costs from an LGS, only error is the iron hands dice which is 10$ more then it should be

rose thorn
#

Bruh

rose thorn
arctic talon
rose thorn
#

Lmao

#

I haven’t realized that heroes increased by like 10 bucks

#

Mainly because the only heroes I bought straight from gw as of late was big monster heroes

arctic talon
#

tbh

#

I get why

#

but also like pain

storm jungle
#

Otherwise yeah all of this is very accurate.

#

They see Realspace as a playground and dont give a fuck about anyone.

storm jungle
#

Destroy all tourney players

arctic talon
#

its just a local game store

zenith remnant
#

Nah, they're dying. They just aren't, currently, killing eachother faster than they can make new ones

storm jungle
#

Nah they arent.

#

This is a very baseless claim.

#

Dark Eldar will always continue to exist as long as they got fresh people to torment and a steady groundwork.

zenith remnant
#

Their entire society is structured in such a way that it's guaranteed to destablize and self destruct

#

They're screwed

storm jungle
#

They really arent.

storm jungle
zenith remnant
#

They're a worst post apocalyptic civilization than the one from Hunger Games

storm jungle
#

They really arent, again.

rose thorn
zenith remnant
#

Why not?

#

Because you say so?

rose thorn
#

heroes pay 10 dollars more so normal infantry only pay 5-10% more

storm jungle
#

Because the lore dictates as much?

#

like rewinding back

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

because of how stupid expensive they are already

storm jungle
#

Also like, where is your source saying they are dying out lol

rose thorn
#

oh yeah probably

arctic talon
#

and using a giant slab of titanium alloy

#

on just one character

#

is a much worse investment lol

rose thorn
#

i like gw plastic alot more than 3d printed plastic so i cant really complain

#

paying a shitty price

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

GW's plastic is like

storm jungle
#

by your logic the Imperium should also implode

arctic talon
#

very nice to work with lol

storm jungle
#

but it doesnt because plot

arctic talon
#

compared to other companies plastics

storm jungle
#

realistically speaking the Imperium would fractuce the moment all the primarchs left.

#

we can go down this rabbit hole all day

rose thorn
#

the underworlds plastic makes me insanely suicidal

#

taht shit can take bullets

arctic talon
#

me watching someone drop Olyander

zenith remnant
#

🙄

arctic talon
#

somehow she didn't fucking snap off the connection point

rose thorn
#

OHN OOOOOOOOOOO

storm jungle
rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Yeah they fixed it

zenith remnant
#

If the lore is contrived, it's bad lore, and I am free to ignore it

storm jungle
#

I mean no you arent

#

GW gets to say what the lore is

zenith remnant
#

Didn't ask your permission or theirs

storm jungle
#

I mean I dont care if you do

#

they write the lore

#

we dont

zenith remnant
#

Then stop giving me your input

storm jungle
#

Why would I

zenith remnant
#

Done here

storm jungle
#

KEK

rose thorn
#

yeah, i think 1/3rd of the kits are push fit at least

arctic talon
#

Pushfit makes it worse

storm jungle
#

at least you know when to quit

arctic talon
#

I hate pushfit smh

#

It’s EVIL

rose thorn
#

i learned how to make pushfit not ass

storm jungle
#

Anyway

rose thorn
#

i have to drill out the holes my self

storm jungle
#

what are you two talking about

#

what is this plastic nonsense

arctic talon
#

Plastic

#

I just snip the pushfit bits off

rose thorn
#

and i have ti file down the pegs

#

then

arctic talon
#

And glue them normally

rose thorn
#

i dont like how glue works with the underworlds plastic so i try toa void it

#

it acts different

arctic talon
#

Is underworlds using dif plastic

#

Weird

rose thorn
#

yeah it really shouldnt tbh

arctic talon
#

Might be the terrain plastic instead

#

For some reason

rose thorn
#

the kits have been cast in normal plastic before

#

i have like 4 kits in normal gw plastic