i woudlnt trust daemons getting anything
#40k-lore-chat
valid needle
i woudlnt trust daemons getting anything
How do you know?
rose thorn
Because they said it like 5 times this edition
They said daemons are legends next edition
valid needle
Interesting
terse kestrel
Are there any actual instances of ogryn using pickaxes in combat before darktide
cyan merlin
Is there any music that canonically exists in warhammer
storm jungle
Is there any music that canonically exists in warhammer
Theres no music in universe
its deleted
cyan merlin
Sad
storm jungle
Are there any actual instances of ogryn using pickaxes in combat before darktide
The old vraks chaos ogryns are one of em
otherwise artwise no, they do here and there in some books
rose thorn
also an ogyrn cna def use the power pick
cyan merlin
You could extrapolate that they’d be good with picaxes from- I think it was mentioned their homeworld was a mining planet with high gravity?
rose thorn
assuming the ogryn slave mining camps use pickaxes
storm jungle
You could extrapolate that they’d be good with picaxes from- I think it was ment...
they dont have a homeworld
ogryns arent a species
they are just a sub-branch of humanity
dapper gyro
Theres no music in universe
🤔
rose thorn
ogryns arent a species
well sub species sitll have places of origin to cause them to evovle that way-
dapper gyro
Btw, that thumbnail reminds me of the old fan nickname for the Sisters of battle... Bolter Bitches.
rose thorn
er- legion/subspecies/what ever your local biologist says
storm jungle
well sub species sitll have places of origin to cause them to evovle that way-
Yeah but do we consider mutated human strains in our age their own species?
rose thorn
Yeah but do we consider mutated human strains in our age their own species?
no because thats not eovlution
rose thorn
gsc special
rose thorn
lmao
man iw anan play soulbound so bad uhg
hey what army got nerfed to the ground last update
languid meadow
unique bronze
still waiting for their mmo
sacred bluff
Will Era of ruin give me a good rundown of what happened after horus died, I know it's an anthology, but maybe I should just wait for scouring
I read the diocletion part of it
cyan merlin
Yeah but do we consider mutated human strains in our age their own species?
As much as I would like to nerd out about taxonomy this topic is a bit of a minefield
cyan merlin
https://fxtwitter.com/CrazyDiamond777/status/1974156302730604783
I got excited for the briefest of moments that Generator Rex was being talked about
Only for that excitement to be ROBBED from me
languid meadow
Lmfao
dire loom
Yeah but do we consider mutated human strains in our age their own species?
You have a point, Sah.
arctic talon
https://fxtwitter.com/CrazyDiamond777/status/1974156302730604783
Okay so one thing I noticed about the skins.
Literally all of them are from an existing skin line aside from the Vi and warwick one
1 new skinline, 2 existing ones
Warwick looks cool
But 2XKO did not need another Zaunite champion lol
arctic talon
💀
Bruh
Yeah idfc anymore
Add Caitlyn
Also jokes aside there’s not a Piltover champion yet
Because vi got reclassified as Zaun in 2XKO for some reason
cyan merlin
Hey is there a specific reason we’re fighting a Nurgle cult and not a cult to any other chaos god
languid meadow
Lore wise because of Nox Alpha a nurgle corrupted planet
meta wise?
it's easier to make a horder shooter game out of nurgle than any other chaos god
cyan merlin
Fair enough
Was somewhat curious of if we had gotten a version of Darktide for the other chaos cults and what that would look like
Though other than the terrifying concept of a Crushrager for khorne, I can’t imagine much would be different
outer wave
It probably wouldnt be much different, just red guys, blue guys, or pink guys instead of green guys
unique bronze
would we get the pink terrors instead of the beast of nurgle if it were tzeentch
outer wave
I imagine it'd be more akin to Flamers of Tzeentch
cyan merlin
Pretty sure a slaaneshi Darktide would have to be X-rated
outer wave
You cant really do a Screamer because they're more about swarming than being one thick lad
outer wave
Pink Horrors feel a bit too weak
arctic talon
Slaanesh isn't just sex
Pink horrors would be a crusher equivelent or something
tbh
outer wave
Yeah
arctic talon
screamer or flamer of tzeentch works as a BoN equivelent
cyan merlin
Aren’t BoNs in Darktide already a lot smaller than they should be
outer wave
I dunno, they still seem pretty big
languid meadow
size was inconsistent anyway
arctic talon
lol
compared to the mini
but it doesn't matter
daemons vary wildly in size in lore
unique bronze
imagine if they added nurglings lol and all they try to do is try and get behind you.. cuz.. they like going up peoples asses ive heard
arctic talon
ogryn and plague ogryn
languid meadow
they were in VT but they kind of just ran away
unique bronze
they were in VT but they kind of just ran away
really? 
languid meadow
darktide made em so big WH+ used them like GUCOs
languid meadow
I just want plaguebearers
arctic talon
really? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
yeah
god the forgeworld plague ogryns were ugly as fuck lol
cyan merlin
What are plaguebearers?
languid meadow
the basic nurgle daemons
dapper gyro
Some BoN are bigger and stronger, enough that they need a few squad of marines to deal with.
languid meadow
there's a skull of one in the game but we don't have an alive one yet
unique bronze
that lil one over there
cyan merlin
Reminds me of My Singing Monsters
dapper gyro
Those pure demon are at least half the power of the monstrosity, but more numerous. Kind of the "weakened" monstrosity modifier in darktide.
unique bronze
think seeing that if it was in darktide would actually be pretty terrifying
tough haven
Daemon don't usually come in small group, but a full invasion.
The cult coukd summon a small group though
In theory
cyan merlin
Feels like the ritual to summon a greater daemon is maybe a few too many steps forward
dapper gyro
Hence why chaos cult and lesser stray daemons are one thing, but full blow daemon spawn require serious intervention from the Imperium.
cyan merlin
So if plaguebearers show up does Grendyl just completely lose control of the situation?
dapper gyro
Pretty much
Unless the planet priority is absolute, they would rather deny the daemon victory by... exterminatus.
unique bronze
How important is moebian steel
cyan merlin
Very
Allegedly
I think Grendyl is yet to leverage the re-discovery to get more resources
unique bronze
you'd think more support would come your way then
unique bronze
Isn't the inquisition really resourceful tho
cyan merlin
As with many things in 40k: It depends
dapper gyro
The inquisition itself generally don't have resource to fight a full planet scale war without requiring assistances.
daring creek
I think Grendyl is yet to leverage the re-discovery to get more resources
Grendel is a fantasy dawg
cyan merlin
Fair point actually
cyan merlin
Also chaos spawn right?
arctic talon
Chaos spawn aren’t daemons
cyan merlin
They aren’t?
outer wave
Nope
They're typically mortals that couldnt resist warp energies going through their body
unique bronze
a creature of the warp?
outer wave
So things like blessings from chaos gods? That can chaos spawn you
Or you can be deliberately chaos spawn'd by a sorcerer using warp magicks on you
Its one of the reasons why you sort of have to go hard or go home with worshiping chaos
Its also one of the dangers of rising up the ranks in heretic life
arctic talon
*They aren’t?*
They’re really fucked up humans/other things
Very powerful chaos spawn are often failed daemon prince ascensions
cyan merlin
Holy shit
arctic talon
But the Darktide spawn are likely not that
outer wave
Darktide spawn are probably mutated ragers
arctic talon
Too many blessings
outer wave
Dreg ragers most likely
outer wave
Well, the drugs are likely a blessing
cyan merlin
Yeah the situation probably isn’t bad enough for anyone to be ascending
outer wave
I cannot see them not being somehow Nurglite in nature
arctic talon
Imo the drugs are likely infused with some Nurgle plague stuff
outer wave
So are we taking in Nurgle magic mixed with typical 40k combat drugs?
cyan merlin
Horrifying
arctic talon
So are we taking in Nurgle magic mixed with typical 40k combat drugs?
Yeah imo
outer wave
Damn we all got a bit of Grandpa in us
languid meadow
I do like the rager -> mutant -> cspawn theory
outer wave
Same
outer wave
But how are we getting our hands on uncorrupted drugs? I mean, they're in the hands of the dregs and scabs
Wouldnt they be corrupted just by being made in the hands of heretics?
I know video game and all that, but still
cyan merlin
Would love if the game made more use of stims somehow
I find myself either never having enough of them or never needing them
unique bronze
I just use one right away when I find it cuz it usually just sits on me when i pick it up lmao
outer wave
Same
unique bronze
Only thing I save is the Med Stim
dapper gyro
The fact beast of nurgles can be summoned
Beast of chaos is strong, but mindless, unlike daemon spawns.
The stim in gameplay is only for it, gameplay.
The stim is likely refined or come from the inquisition stock itself.
The of drug in combat is all over the place in 40K, it is not out of ordinary that the guards have it.
arctic talon
I know video game and all that, but still
We have the stims from the mourning star in lore imo
While the stims being picked up ingame is gameplay
outer wave
But what about the stims we found in the Ampitheatre? I assume those are similar to the ones that were given out to the Moebian 21st
dapper gyro
Those were to track down the stim production.
Which the strike team was sent to destroy right after.
outer wave
Mmmm I see
lament shoal
Loot from LVO!
raven stone
Loot from LVO!
I find it funny how Kasrkin are amongst the best infantry choices for GSC to steal currently
valid needle
Wouldnt they be corrupted just by being made in the hands of heretics?
Not necessarily
rocky gale
I can't wait for my shopping sprees to resume I got a new job finally
The main reason to have a job tbh
median star
surreal nest
I find it funny how Kasrkin are amongst the best infantry choices for GSC to ste...
kasrkin STAY WINNING SON
daring creek
Is that fucking vsauce
sacred bluff
shadow plover
yes, it's from the episode he made where he isolated himself in that room for like a week or something
or however long it was
daring creek
Wow that sounds literally maddening
shadow plover
it was three days, but yeah it was a very taxing three days 
daring creek
Yeah I'd fucking think so 
storm jungle
Yeah he needed like a doctor at the end
daring creek
YEAH.
storm jungle
because human beings are not made to live without social contact of any kind locked in a box lol
daring creek
daring creek
because human beings are not made to live without social contact of any kind loc...
Stares
storm jungle
Yep.
surreal nest
because human beings are not made to live without social contact of any kind loc...
Try me
storm jungle
which is why Isolation cells are inhumane as fuck
arctic talon
Like the cave experiment that some scientists did was weird
daring creek
Yeah
surreal nest
I once went 57 years only playing darktide over the summer
arctic talon
The persons biological clock was totally fucked after just 3 days lol
Beyond like
The isolation
storm jungle
also Wolf
im almost done with the book
im legit
gonna smash a guitar over Brooks head
lmao
arctic talon
gonna smash a guitar over Brooks head
Did it go to shit lol
I’ve been busy and haven’t been able to read
daring creek
Yeah he needed like a doctor at the end
Okay but why did he do this
arctic talon
Or did Brooks do what brooks does with orks
surreal nest
They have done worse for science
Like when they made somebody play darktide for 57 years over the summer
storm jungle
Okay but why did he do this
To show the effects of total isolation
surreal nest
How can I start
Do you have paypal
storm jungle
Did it go to shit lol
He glazes the fucking ork warboss again in a big fight with the cast members lol
its abysmal
arctic talon
He glazes the fucking ork warboss again in a big fight with the cast members lol
I KNEW IT
FUCK
daring creek
Oh yeah there's a modern german experiment where they deliberately make you sick by making you sleep at diagonal angle with your head at the bottom
For several months
surreal nest
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif
dog what was the fucking backstory behind this its so funny
is he drama baiting
daring creek
You have sign up for it
arctic talon
dog what was the fucking backstory behind this its so funny
The dude always does a fake crash out whenever he loses to the other dude
Because they’re friends
lol
surreal nest
Oh my god that's actually funny now
arctic talon
Like it’s super fucking exaggerated
surreal nest
It would be so sad if bro had a generational crashout fr
queen laurel
gonna smash a guitar over Brooks head
storm jungle
im talking about his other books idiot
surreal nest
taze em doofus
rose thorn
Mike brooks is an anagram for
Kreim books
daring creek
Imagine going through all that training, hardship and indoctrination to become a space marine
and after a single battle, you're fucking cripplingly injured and then you're installed into a dreadnought
That is fucking hilarious, I wonder how often that actually happens.
arctic talon
Dreadnoughts are reserved for people who are seen as important or valuable enough to keep alive
shadow plover
Would be cringe to waste resources to some bitch ass punk who got them selves mortally wounded in a single battle...
queen laurel
That's cringe.
.....You are so adamant about being put inside one that you didn't read the part that you have to be an important Marine to be in one?
daring creek
Nohp
:3
I'm being fr, Dreadnoughts are what introduced me to 40k
The Astartes video as well, but the Dreadnought one...
so good
After that someone recommended me Ghost In The Shell
and I must say, quality Clanker slop.
I need to read the manga as well. I read some of it in the library, it was pretty cool!!
It's soh gud
young pecan
I'm being fr, Dreadnoughts are what introduced me to 40k
Dreadnoughts wouldn't be nearly as cool if every single nobody got to have one
daring creek
The movie throughly left me intimidated tbh
daring creek
Dreadnoughts wouldn't be nearly as cool if every single nobody got to have one
True true.
:(
young pecan
Single battle they’ll just let you bleed out
They would still try to save you, no?
arctic talon
Well yeah but if it’s between dread or death
storm jungle
Depends on your worth
arctic talon
They’re gona let you die
young pecan
Well yeah but if it’s between dread or death
Ohh okay
arctic talon
If you’re not worth it
daring creek
Depends on your worth
I'd be worth a lot. They need me.
The Imperium would fall flat on it's ass
celest dome
You could be made into a Thallax
storm jungle
I'd be worth a lot. They need me.
no
celest dome
Those are not really made from esteemed peoples
daring creek
You're a mean person Witchfinder.
young pecan
Depends on your worth
Wouldn't it depend on the severity of the situation? Probably the chapters' beliefs and general drive but I'm sure most chapters would go for a save if they reliably could
storm jungle
Wouldn't it depend on the severity of the situation? Probably the chapters' beli...
Hence the "worth" bit
Marines are assholes
queen laurel
Wouldn't it depend on the severity of the situation? Probably the chapters' beli...
Save your life yes put you in a giant war machine no
storm jungle
theres been cases of Apothecaries extracting geneseed from live injured marines lol
sacred bluff
Depends on your worth
what is my worth 🥺
storm jungle
what is my worth 🥺
celest dome
The number of Dreadnaught chassis is limited, and intering a SM is difficult
young pecan
Save your life yes put you in a giant war machine no
Yeah ofc
celest dome
Hence it not being done for frivolous reasons
queen laurel
Yeah ofc
Which would you rather put in a giant war machine
Jimmy the newbie
Or makar face mangler that has killed 20 warbosses in his career
young pecan
Marines are assholes
young pecan
Which would you rather put in a giant war machine
Jimmy the newbie
Or makar ...
I already agree 
#40k-lore-chat message
queen laurel
I already agree <a:nomnomnom:981624715154169867> https://discord.com/channels/72...
Unfortunately I like yapping
daring creek
Why are they harvesting my seed? Freaky apothocaries......
celest dome
Well also recuperate anything useable
Armour, maybe bloods and organ for transplants
daring creek
remote wadi
Ok gw got me
daring creek
freakass tech marine
remote wadi
I wanted a tzeentch aos army and as I was starting it I realized thousand sons are way better
We all destined to play marines
storm jungle
you are in a warhammer server
i think we all know which party has the biggest cranial damage
daring creek
Yeah them obviously
shadow plover
don't listen to her, she's a mod in a warhammer server
daring creek
Because I'm a normal person in every aspect
Yeah she's like...crazy....
She told me I was crazy for some reason...
Anyway, I just see so many damn dbd players complain about the game
they feel so adjacent to League players
storm jungle
don't listen to her, she's a mod in a warhammer server
you're a user in a warhammer server.......
remote wadi
do you have brain damage
Nah I just enjoyed dbd
remote wadi
I was huge on playing killer there
shadow plover
which is a small infraction on my soul compared to modding one...
daring creek
I was huge on playing killer there
Does everyone hate you
remote wadi
In dbd yes
Irl everyone loves me
daring creek
Bc in steam profiles I've seen people bitch and complain constantly about killers
remote wadi
daring creek
It feels like a bloods and crips thing
remote wadi
But yeah I'm now building a thousand sons army
The only thing I know is get Magnus and ahriman cause why not getting a primarch
daring creek
Raising canes marines
nocturne crest
Would Smut depicting the emperor as the greatest lover of all time be heresy?
storm jungle
depends on the cult
nocturne crest
The imperium's main religion?
celest dome
Probably wouldn't be seen well
nocturne crest
Hen again, would it be heresy to say the god emperor of mankind was a awful lover?
dapper gyro
Considering many places using their "all loving" gods to spread hate, nah. They would spin everything as good deeds.
raven stone
Wut is "dbd"?
queen laurel
Wut is "dbd"?
i'm assuming the game dead by daylight
lament shoal
They're selling coasters at lvo and I got these two
daring creek
Solid as hell
raven stone
i'm assuming the game dead by daylight
Ah
tough haven
I was huge on playing killer there
I still am
tough haven
Bc in steam profiles I've seen people bitch and complain constantly about killer...
Check mine, it’s linked to my discord
I only recent got back in dbd about a year ago, but the messages never stopped ever since I started playing
I’ve had that profile for a while
celest willow
yk something I love about warhammer is how everyone is expendable in the eyes of the imperium
on a large scale every human is just a rusty cog In a unholy machine
there is something poetic about even the emperor being a sacrifice for the imperium
storm jungle
its pretty much the same as IRL so that checks out
human lives in a large majority dont care to the people standing above them
crystal forum
They're selling coasters at lvo and I got these two
ah laser printed
storm jungle
are you sure you arent laser printed
crystal forum
that right one looks higher quality
barely any scorch marks and it's made from a sectioned tree
from the grain of the left one it looks like they chopped a piece of wood sideways?
weird
storm jungle
you're weird
celest willow
its pretty much the same as IRL so that checks out
eh IRL it feels more stagnant
storm jungle
eh IRL it feels more stagnant
Its really not
the people in charge just arent as upfront about it minus some lol
in the Imperium your life is outright said to be worthless and that you should be glad to give it
spring cairn
i should be in charge
celest willow
in the Imperium your life is *outright* said to be worthless and that you should...
yeah but am talking about how in the imperium you are worthless no matter who you are some are just less worthless than others
irl you just feel like everyone is forced to have all their life funneled into the rich
same with the imperiuim ik but with the imperiuim they are still tools
dapper gyro
That's what you feel when you live in safety.
celest willow
That's what you feel when you live in safety.
wdym?
cause I dont think their is a drop of safety in both scenarios
dapper gyro
Well, for the top people, you are very worthless. The entire economy system is not there for you, but for the top of the chain.
celest willow
Well, for the top people, you are very worthless. The entire economy system is n...
and am ment to feel that way when am safe?
I doubt it
dapper gyro
same with the imperiuim ik but with the imperiuim they are still tools
I don't know what you think we are. Whatever.
opaque coyote
Y'know
The funniest part about 40k is that Veteran's Assistance is
Similar to ours
And by that I mean it fucking sucks
And is wildly dependant on luck
celest willow
I don't know what you think we are. Whatever.
by they I mean the elite
the elite of the imperium are expendable
storm jungle
And by that I mean it fucking sucks
if by "sucks" you mean get turned into a servitor then yes
celest dome
the elite of the imperium are expendable
Much less so than we we play.
celest willow
Much less so than we we play.
wdym?
celest dome
And even the rich in RL are expendable, when richer people throw them under the bus
celest dome
wdym?
Poor people in the Imperium are much more likely to be thrown away and be expendable than the richers (Like the Noble families)
celest willow
Poor people in the Imperium are much more likely to be thrown away and be expend...
thats why I said some are just more worthless than others
storm jungle
celest willow
sometimes even being part will still get you and the planet your on scorched regardless of who you are
celest dome
Same way that they are in RL in theory
Most of the time it doesn't matter
Even in the case of an Exterminatus some will have the means to get off world and be saved
celest willow
Even in the case of an Exterminatus some will have the means to get off world an...
usually if deemed necessary
sometimes the inquisition doesnt give a damn who they are glassing if they deem the whole planet a lost cause
storm jungle
nobles usually get away
they got the best spacecraft/contingencies unfortunately lol
celest willow
nobles usually get away
yeah ik
am just saying the IRl elites actually get a better deal than the warhammer ones
celest willow
it does make sense when you consider how stretched the imperium is
celest willow
In my humble opinion we should eat them both
fancy
languid meadow
biblical greed
celest willow
biblical greed
melt em in a pot of gold?
lament shoal
In my humble opinion we should eat them both
rocky gale
Dilara when someone asks a lore question in lore chat
storm jungle
Dilara when someone asks a lore question in lore chat
hell yeah
storm jungle
the speed in which the void shields go into the gun is crazy
Im gonna go into your gun in a minute
(its a pipebomb)
sacred bluff
is it adeptus mechanicus approved...
sacred bluff
storm jungle
Yeah that pedo apologized lol
rose thorn
it was barely an actual apology 
and its not like ith appened 5 years ago it happened liek a mnth before hand lmao
i remember after his post like 3 meme youtubers got caughta nd disappeared
young pecan
"I'm sorry I liked children publicly, I won't do that again"
rose thorn
he could have also, if he really ddi wanna keep making music but really felt regretful he could have just made a new mchannel
storm jungle
Im glad people like Alfabusa/Co just instantly yeeted him lmao
rose thorn
content creators that fucked up and actually feel bad usually kust make new channels
shadow plover
I had no idea who you were talking about and googled it, think I recall seeing some of his songs as recommended long time ago but all his stuff is literal ass?
rose thorn
i feel like its 50/50 great or bad but also its 40k content creators so eh
celest dome
Some of his content was somewhat good for what it was, shame he did what he did
crystal forum
28 years later is out
green loom
I had no idea who you were talking about and googled it, think I recall seeing s...
It was great when I was 15
shadow plover
sacred bluff
arctic talon
Clothes are like the Mordians
helmet/face veil not really
but the face like, bag
thing is sorta on the Vraks traitor militia
sudden compass
Ah, heresy
sudden compass
Clothes are like the Mordians
Thanks though
Couldnt remember the name of the regiment
storm jungle
its very hard to copy the absolute drip of Cobra
sudden compass
Dilara
storm jungle
sudden compass
@stone idol
storm jungle
idc about theaters
theaters are more important
also imagine using streaming
disgusting
crystal forum
i love hearing somebody open a bag of skittles next to me during a horror movie
sacred bluff
WE LOVE STREAMING!!!
storm jungle
sudden compass
i love hearing somebody open a bag of skittles next to me during a horror movie
Why lol
crystal forum
either cope or get out
THATS WHY I STREAM
storm jungle
Damn furries
crystal forum
sudden compass
<:AngryKitten:1217642253502124143>
Dont worry, we still love you, even if you do have a skittles kink
young pecan
Lore chat should have a game where they send fictional women to guess if they're Dilara's type or not
crystal forum
we already know which ones
vagrant fox
some waifu with a huge ass
crystal forum
big muscle mommy
outer wave
<@166943308231344128> she's like 9 feet tall and wants to fight you
Slay the Princess is so goated as a game
Spectre my beloved
young pecan
I don't think I've gotten Spectre yet
crystal forum
It's not about fighting her
there is no difference in this situation
young pecan
The closest I've gotten to that is both forms of The Grey I think
outer wave
You want me to give you hints or straight up how to get her?
young pecan
You want me to give you hints or straight up how to get her?
I'll take how to get it 
outer wave
I'll take how to get it <a:yesgryn:1024009817846710434>
First time going to meet the princess, you dont interact with her at all and murder her. Go back up the stairs without checking the body, as if you're going to get the "Good" ending. Kll yourself and you should be in the Spectre route.
young pecan
Every time I go to murder her without saying anything it locks me into a 100% I die avenue, or me and her both dying
outer wave
Really?
young pecan
Or do I have to not say anything on the staircase going down too?
outer wave
You say ABSOLUTELY nothing to her
young pecan
Ohhh okay
outer wave
You go down the stairs, kill her, dont check body
young pecan
You go down the stairs, kill her, dont check body
What is your favorite form
Assuming Spectre
outer wave
What is your favorite form <a:nomnomnom:981624715154169867>
Hard question, I think most of her forms are cute as hell
Im probably gonna say Spectre or Adversary
young pecan
Adversary is sick
outer wave
Happily ever after is also really nice
young pecan
Hard to pick one but I'll say the one with the damsel where you originally stay in the cabin but leave with her in the epilogue, the witch, or the thorn(?)
outer wave
Thorn is good
outer wave
Its a great arc
Me being a freak would say Tower or Apatheosis, but she's kind of a cunt
Prisoner is pretty cute too
outer wave
The closest I've gotten to that is both forms of The Grey I think
Which Grey did you get btw?
young pecan
Tower is neat but yeah she's a dick
outer wave
Yeah, but tall woman hot so
young pecan
Which Grey did you get btw?
The first time I got the evil one where you drown, last night while I was memories hunting I got the damsel grey
outer wave
Drowned Grey is probably my favorite Grey
Its genuinely a terrifying ending
Burning Grey is kinda cute in a fucked up way though
She clearly still cares despite being a Grey Lady
outer wave
I do believe they changed that about Drowned Grey, yeah? You used to get it if you killed Prisoner and walked out without realizing she wanted out by taking her head with you
I dunno how you get it now
I forgot
young pecan
I think I got it from ||trusting her and her being forced to kill me, then immediately going down and killing her in chapter two||
But I could be wrong
She says something about "oh so you're getting petty revenge"
outer wave
I think you're right
I think its straight up icing her
That method I talked about earlier is now for the Caged route
God people in this chat should play Slay the Princess
unique bronze
Is it that good?
outer wave
Its very good
The art is hand drawn and incredibly nice to look at, the VA work is pretty good, and its an interesting lil game
Music also bangs
Its a "Visual Novel/Choose your own adventure" kind of game if you're into that
unique bronze
I've only ever seen some youtubers im subscribed to play it but I didnt get very far
i like the narrative yeah, but I think I'd prefer just seeing someone else play it
outer wave
Fair enough
storm jungle
yeah same here i think im gonna watch an Explained video...
sacred bluff
not 40k, not interested 
outer wave
UUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It IS on sale
Im lowkey glad Im not a salesperson
I tried recommending Umineko to friends and then mentioned its like 120 hours or something to read and they noped out
unique bronze
I mean I like story driven games as much as the next one, im just the type that goes "eh" at a game, but then when I do play it, I'd be "holy shit, this is great" kind of gamer
storm jungle
Alright FINE ill play it
outer wave
HOORAY!!!!
storm jungle
only because of the freaky princess
outer wave
Trust me, you'll LOVE her
storm jungle
outer wave
I mean I like story driven games as much as the next one, im just the type that ...
I get that sentiment
I think Im similar
vagrant fox
Some of the princess forms are 👌
unique bronze
clussy?
outer wave
I love the detail that her chain is a balloon chain
unique bronze
Oh I didnt even notice
Jumping into Rogue Traders since I saw some peeps talking about it here
storm jungle
The game?
storm jungle
young pecan
Is it that good?
It is a love story about perspective, even if many of the perspectives are not of love
And it is incredible if that sounds interesting to you
young pecan
Is this a real one? Tf?
young pecan
I wish the ~~Clussy~~ Clown Princess was real
Oh oops
outer wave
No, but it was joke art made by the creators
young pecan
DILARA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Seconded
Such a good game and it's not that heavy on committing yourself to a long story
outer wave
Mhmmmmm
Its not Umineko
Which is peak fiction but Slay the Princess is not even close to as long
young pecan
You can play it in like ten minute sessions if you really wanted to
sudden compass
Squats rule
crystal forum
idc about their lore really i just want space dwarf
sudden compass
Do it
unique bronze
You can play it in like ten minute sessions if you really wanted to
How long is the game actually, if you just play without knowing anything
storm jungle
idc about their lore really i just want space dwarf
Their lore is good, read it
Votann is peak
sudden compass
idc about their lore really i just want space dwarf
Be a dwarf
crystal forum
Their lore is good, read it
it's good but i want comfy fantasy dwarf
hallow saddle
votann are very cool
storm jungle
it's good but i want comfy fantasy dwarf
They literalyl got that vibe too you idiot
THEY LITERALLY HAVE HOLDS
outer wave
How long is the game actually, if you just play without knowing anything
2-4 hours depending on how fast you're reading and going through dialogue? Least I recall my first run was about that
hallow saddle
theyre dwarfs in space its poggers
crystal forum
i will make my dwarves super comfy
hallow saddle
do it
sudden compass
Votann is peak
I do wish their aesthetic was a bit more old miner/undersea diver, more so than just higher tech lookin space marine
young pecan
How long is the game actually, if you just play without knowing anything
To get to one of the endings? Uhhh depends on how fast you make decisions or skip through dialogue but maybe an hour? Hour and a half to two? Idk I forgor but it's short
young pecan
It has much more content than one run's worth though
hallow saddle
thats the hobby baby
storm jungle
I do wish their aesthetic was a bit more old miner/undersea diver, more so than ...
Considering their lore it works tbh, if people dont want that then the Ironheads exist
young pecan
So very replayable as well
sudden compass
Considering their lore it works tbh, if people dont want that then the Ironheads...
Ironheads?
crystal forum
i should start with ironheads
crystal forum
gives me an excuse to do munda army
storm jungle
100%
its one of the reasons why the army originally flopped
because they had like 0 identity
lol
arctic talon
its one of the reasons why the army originally flopped
Generic miner and biker gang
What an army lol
crystal forum
wolf can you use munda units in 40k
sudden compass
Ironhead Squats?
To be fair, i havent looked at the votaan since their intial release, when i talked about it with a friend
crystal forum
they have a book now
storm jungle
To be fair, i havent looked at the votaan since their intial release, when i tal...
Explains a lot, you missed a lot lol
storm jungle
arctic talon
Ironhead squats don’t have juves
storm jungle
do not grip the robot
arctic talon
Which makes them the lamest necromunda gang/j
sudden compass
Explains a lot, you missed a lot lol
I just didnt like the intial look of 'em, so i stopped payin attention
storm jungle
I just didnt like the intial look of 'em, so i stopped payin attention
average 40k fan moment 😔
sudden compass
I did see they had ai kin though
storm jungle
this is me with space marines
arctic talon
Give a kid some flak armor, a bolter and tell him to shoot some gangers
sudden compass
this is me with space marines
Fair
arctic talon
Juves are so fucking stupid and silly they wrap around to being cool
sudden compass
So Ironheads, ya say? And Steeljacks? Or was that second one somethin else?
arctic talon
There’s only like, 1 LoV unit style I dislike
arctic talon
So Ironheads, ya say? And Steeljacks? Or was that second one somethin else?
Steeljacks are Leagues of votaan units
crystal forum
So Ironheads, ya say? And Steeljacks? Or was that second one somethin else?
steeljacks are awesome tall robots
arctic talon
If you want miner squats you can just steal them for LoV in 40K lol
crystal forum
frontier
hallow saddle
ironheads rule as well
crystal forum
space cowboys
storm jungle
the are based on the first squat minis with the industrial aesthetic ye
even the helmets
crystal forum
their guns look a little bad but the armor is good
arctic talon
They’re based on the epic minis
Specifically
Not the actual full scale ones
Aside from the helmets
storm jungle
their guns look a little bad but the armor is good
crystal forum
look at that heavy bolter thing
arctic talon
Any necromunda gang that does not allow you to arm a 13 year old with a gun and have them get their limbs blown off is a bad gang
young pecan
Are Votann treated as abhumans/mutants in the Imperium, xenos, or as fellow people?
arctic talon
This makes Ironhead squats the worst gang
young pecan
I know nothing about them other than le space dwarf
arctic talon
Are Votann treated as abhumans/mutants in the Imperium, xenos, or as fellow peop...
Abhumans often
crystal forum
Are Votann treated as abhumans/mutants in the Imperium, xenos, or as fellow peop...
they're just not seen much if at all so it depends
arctic talon
But they don’t like that
Ultimately it’s whatever is convienant for them at the time
storm jungle
they're just not seen much if at all so it depends
They are tbh
young pecan
I could only imagine as much
arctic talon
But they do not consider themselves abhumans
They consider themselves wholly separate from humanity
crystal forum
GW store treats them as xenos
storm jungle
Are Votann treated as abhumans/mutants in the Imperium, xenos, or as fellow peop...
They are essentially alien humans/xenos but they pass themselves off if the other party is unaware as "abhuman" or just weird humans™ to make trade.
storm jungle
GW store treats them as xenos
the lore does too
they are far removed from humanity
especially genetic makeup wise
crystal forum
i still think they count as a human adjacent faction
storm jungle
They really dont
crystal forum
in my fleshy skull
young pecan
What isolation for like 10k years does to a mf
storm jungle
literally lol
arctic talon
More
young pecan
That is the deal with them right
arctic talon
lol
arctic talon
They isolated themselves in the late DAOT
young pecan
DAYUM
arctic talon
And ignored the entire age of strife
crystal forum
they also haven't changed for a long time
after they got the cloning process running
arctic talon
Much like whfb dwarfs
Change is slow
lol
But they get a lot more fucking experimental
crystal forum
the in lore reason for why votaan suddenly appear everywhere now is because of the great rift iirc
crystal forum
it went right through the galactic core
storm jungle
they also haven't changed for a long time
They have
sudden compass
Now if i could just get helms that look like old diver helmets or the bouncers
storm jungle
the lore outright says League votann can look different
especially on the mutation scale
young pecan
Wouldn't there be a mini language barrier between them and the Imperium though?
storm jungle
since the Cores can meddle with their physical appearance
sudden compass
especially on the mutation scale
Mutation?
young pecan
If they were gone for 30k
storm jungle
Wouldn't there be a mini language barrier between them and the Imperium though?
There is yeah, Kin dont speak gothic as they arent really humans
or give a shit to really
unless again trading
pretty much like WHF
arctic talon
Wouldn't there be a mini language barrier between them and the Imperium though?
They don’t speak gothic
storm jungle
UMGAK
arctic talon
But they don’t give a shit
crystal forum
Wouldn't there be a mini language barrier between them and the Imperium though?
translators or smth but yeah there would be
arctic talon
You deal with their shitty gothic
Or you don’t
human
The LoV got that classic flavor of WHFB xenophobic superiority down
lol
Which was missing in 40K big time
young pecan
How different is LoV's weaponry, if they're on par with the Imperium at all?
storm jungle
They are above it
crystal forum
their tech is way better
storm jungle
a lot of their tech is "human"-esque since it comes from the same-ish STC template
but its actually innovatied/kept well
young pecan
But I didn't expect them to thrive in their situation as well as they seemingly did
crystal forum
fun fact, lov actually improve their technology. it's not degrading at all
young pecan
Living in caves beats living in fascism, who would have thought
storm jungle
But I didn't expect them to thrive in their situation as well as they seemingly ...
It depends from League to League
arctic talon
How different is LoV's weaponry, if they're on par with the Imperium at all?
Better then human tech
Generally
storm jungle
they are VERY corporate-group'y in the way they operate
its like uhhh
RPG games clan structure?
young pecan
DRG?
storm jungle
you sometimes need to join a Kin congolmerate
and like ally with other bigger Leagues
young pecan
Now this is epic
storm jungle
its a REALLY big political sphere
arctic talon
Yeah
young pecan
Is there canon union busting
arctic talon
No
storm jungle
no because Kin arent like that
crystal forum
they dont have unions
arctic talon
Kin are
storm jungle
every Kin likes the job they do, if they dont they switch
arctic talon
Hardwired into this way of thinking
dire loom
storm jungle
ironkin included
crystal forum
kin love their social structures
storm jungle
everyone is free
dire loom
young pecan
Oh that's interesting
arctic talon
Yeah
young pecan
So even the janitors love their jobs and are treated decently?
arctic talon
Yes
storm jungle
Yeah and again if they dont they can switch
arctic talon
^
storm jungle
theres not really a forced job
storm jungle
^
crystal forum
well the core does
arctic talon
They just adjust the new batch
Well yeah
The core adjusts the new batch to be more inclined
young pecan
Oh is LoV reproduction just cloning?
crystal forum
the core is surveilling all of this
arctic talon
No sex
All Kin are vat grown designer babies
Based on multiple cloneskiens
Which are basically “lines”
young pecan
You will have no women, you will live in a cave, and you will unironically like it I guess
crystal forum
their core decides what genes to put in a new kin
arctic talon
They have women
crystal forum
or ironkin
young pecan
Ohh okay
arctic talon
The LoV were
A dark age of technology experiment/expedition
They started with normal people
crystal forum
i'd say it was more like a contingency plan
storm jungle
Oh is LoV reproduction just cloning?
To add, Kin can still have sex to reproduce, its what the Ironheads in Munda did.
crystal forum
but who knows
arctic talon
But whether a Kin dies they basically get broken down into a genetic slurry to be processed into information for the cloneskiens and their memories are integrated into the ancestor core
storm jungle
the Votann Cores just make the process faster
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
But whether a Kin dies they basically get broken down into a genetic slurry to b...
also this yeah
arctic talon
There’s no point in sex
crystal forum
To add, Kin can still have sex to reproduce, its what the Ironheads in Munda did...
wow
storm jungle
its VERY integral to their culture for their bodies to be returned to the Core
arctic talon
They really hate waste
sudden compass
To add, Kin can still have sex to reproduce, its what the Ironheads in Munda did...
Ah, dwarf sex, i see
storm jungle
Ah, dwarf sex, i see
yes
crystal forum
some kin have their neural patterns copied to a hard drive thing before dying so they can return to the ancestor
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
since they travel WAY far
crystal forum
it's pretty cool
storm jungle
Jagermeister
storm jungle
They are REALYL cool
storm jungle
yeah atm they are appearing/popping up in random places in lore
storm jungle
so they are setting their hooks in
crystal forum
it's a faction that hasn't be ruined by old lore writing
arctic talon
Weird ass fucking alloy
crystal forum
ofc it's peak
green loom
More rep when
When they get to fight vs Marines
arctic talon
That’s found near gravitational anomalies
sudden compass
arctic talon
storm jungle
🫡
sudden compass
Purple axe skin when?
young pecan
it's a faction that hasn't be ruined by old lore writing
Me staring at the WHF pygmies
sudden compass
kin also like wearing power armor regularly
You wouldnt?
arctic talon
I mean
young pecan
crystal forum
You wouldnt?
i wouldn't have access to it lol
arctic talon
And also that
storm jungle
not with that attitude
sudden compass
i wouldn't have access to it lol
But if you did
crystal forum
they just all wear it normally
sudden compass
Be armored sheep
crystal forum
But if you did
i wouldn't be a dwarf so why bother
green loom
Imperium power armor fucking sucks to wear
Unless like very specifically customized it's basically on purpose too
crystal forum
kin also have big chonky boys with something resembling terminator armor
i dont think it has a model yet
sudden compass
sudden compass
Absolute unit
arctic talon
the devious ironkin advisor
sudden compass
Lol who had abunch of ogryns as slaves?
storm jungle
Lol who had abunch of ogryns as slaves?
A lot of people
like
ogryns are enslaved on the regular as labor
lol
storm jungle
Just some generic industrial clan made up for that excerpt
necromunda has a lot of those guilds
sudden compass
A kin clan or some human one?
crystal forum
steeljacks 
storm jungle
A kin clan or some human one?
Human
arctic talon
A kin clan or some human one?
human one
crystal forum
big robo
sudden compass
Ah
sudden compass
Different kin?
crystal forum
GW definitely not trying to appeal to the SM crowd
storm jungle
idk man, we are in different ages now and some people still remember old history regarding such things
arctic talon
GW definitely not trying to appeal to the SM crowd
Tbf people were asking for big Ironkin
sudden compass
Also how strong are kin compared to Ogryns?
arctic talon
since their fucking launch
arctic talon
Also how strong are kin compared to Ogryns?
much weaker
crystal forum
Tbf people were asking for big Ironkin
SM fans
arctic talon
Kin are around human levels of strength
sudden compass
Oh really?
crystal forum
who came from SM
sudden compass
I thought they were stronger?