40k-lore-chat

[dapper gyro]

Most of the former military posts that are kept in shape are the observation posts, which always have good views, or somewhat still active ones, which means the position still has value.

[rocky gale]

and the value is having a cool demesne

[jade holly]

And if we go with when Hawaii became a state

The US wasn’t a full formed country until 1959

[languid meadow]

if having territories doesn't make you a full nation then neither the US or Canada are full countries (and many many more)

[spring cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317192655066759330/1416475290120618155/rapidsave.com_8g5pwgg5lyof1.gif

[arctic talon]

The parry bait

[jade holly]

I was saying America as we know it (aka 50 states)

[crystal forum]

with canada you could go with 1867 when the dominion was born or maybe 1982 when canada was no longer legally dependent on the british parliament

yes it's that recent

[dapper gyro]

I'd imagine in its heydays, the there are wooden structures, furnitures and decors inside of the stone protective structure.

[jade holly]

This really puts the timeline of history into perspective lol

[languid meadow]

I'd say 1867 since that's when we started doing domestic stuff by ourselves

[jade holly]

What’s the saying?

100 years to Americans is a long time but 100 miles/kilometers to Europeans is a long distance?

[languid meadow]

also it laid the ground work to incorporate the west, north, and then NFL

[spring cairn]

pure fear of god

[crystal forum]

i would actually lean with 1931 when the british considered us equals. i dont really consider the colony era to be an actual country

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I can believe in universe that only recently did people find out that female custodes are a thing.

Mainly because before Guilliman took over, the custodes literally just spent 90% of their time standing around LMAO

[languid meadow]

keep forgetting the Newfoundland was an independent nation for a time

[spring cairn]

just standing near someone as abrams and they start pressing q for no reason

[arctic talon]

Give lash a good gun so my parry bait is better smh

Ignore the fact he can already delete people

[spring cairn]

the humble headshot booster

[crystal forum]

dont forget the french colony which still exists

[jade holly]

I’m gonna be honest

Newfoundland is the most lazy name of a province I’ve ever heard

hey what do what name this newly founded land?

Say that again?

[dapper gyro]

Newfoundland has its own tomb of the unknown soldier because of that, lol. The soldier was killed before it became a canadian province.

[languid meadow]

It was either that or Terra Nova iirc

[jade holly]

Terra Nova is a sick name wtf?

[dapper gyro]

Nova Terra is a starcraft character.

[crystal forum]

it's just new earth but latin

[spring cairn]

it's the same but in a different language

it does sound cooler tho

[languid meadow]

but you can blame King Henry VII for it since he was one of the first to use it

I mean Nova Scotia is just New Scotland

iirc

[jade holly]

We get New York, New Jersey (ew), New Hampshire

New Mexico

[crystal forum]

grimm did you know there's still a french colony in the canadian region

[languid meadow]

New York was New Amsterdam for a time

[crystal forum]

actual french colony

[dapper gyro]

Trigger some Quebecois by call it New France.

[jade holly]

I would not be surprised

Because y’all have the Quebecois

[languid meadow]

Saint Pierre and Miquelon

[jade holly]

Y’all wanna hear a state fun fact?

[opaque coyote]

There is a Birmingham in USA, Alabama and a Birmingham in England

Both suck

[crystal forum]

no funnily enough this has nothing to do with quebec

[celest dome]

Walls Street is called that due to having people from Wallonia living there when it was a Dutch colony

[crystal forum]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon

it's so far from anything important that canada just let it exist

and it's still its own colony

[jade holly]

The flag of Maryland is one the oldest state flags in the US

[spring cairn]

France has a lot of those oversees territories

[jade holly]

Because it’s a combination of the coat of arms of two families

[crystal forum]

it used to be a smuggler den lol

[spring cairn]

there's a nuclear silo site there in case we need to nuke Canada btw

[languid meadow]

Yeah because the French fought harder to keep a lot of its colonies compared to the British who just slowly stopped caring

[jade holly]

If I had to side between Canada and France, I’m choosing Canada

[languid meadow]

but tbf it's been french for a while and no one else lived there before them iirc

[jade holly]

They were running out of beavers to shave

[crystal forum]

they literally gave away new france after like 2 defeats

[spring cairn]

American I presume

[rocky gale]

They'd already stolen all the shit

[jade holly]

Yep

[languid meadow]

like after the Suez crisis the British public just stopped caring lmfao

[rocky gale]

and it's cheaper to just give up when someone demands independence

[jade holly]

Quick EU question, who’s considered the “heads” of the EU?

[languid meadow]

Germany and France

[jade holly]

Is it France and Germany?

[crystal forum]

beavers were actually only popular for hunting just a short period of time in history when top hats were in fashion. the silk trade in china killed its relevance quickly

[spring cairn]

Germany and france

[rocky gale]

Nobody knows

[dapper gyro]

Well, they are also one of the 1st to stop doing slavery...

[spring cairn]

there was the UK before they left too

they're the most influential

[dapper gyro]

Which gave away alot of their power.

[arctic talon]

Prolly Germany and France overall nowadays

[jade holly]

Is the way the EU works for nations in Europe sort of how our federal level works? Or is it more a mutual committee?

[spring cairn]

no

it's not a federation at all sadly

[rocky gale]

It's complicated

[languid meadow]

Waiter waiter more federalists

[spring cairn]

yes

reporting for duty

[jade holly]

I’m guessing some nations have more power and influence in it than others?

[crystal forum]

the EU is the perfect example of too much bureaucracy

[dapper gyro]

Yes and yes. Each of the nation has way more power on their own territory than each state of the US.

[crystal forum]

granted i'd rather live in europe than NA

but it's wild

[spring cairn]

Each nation is it's own thing

which is why sometime they disregard things ordered by the union entirely

great system

[jade holly]

So they don’t just always go along with whatever France and Germany wants?

[languid meadow]

France on its way to fuck up defense talks because it still wants more fishing rights in the channel

[dapper gyro]

Not even France and Germany can work together most of the time lol.

[jade holly]

The differences between the US and EU always intrigue me

[rocky gale]

Like the Council of Europe, not to be confused with the European Council, which is not to be confused with the Council of the European Union

[spring cairn]

germany and france are the most influential but they don't get to dictate everything

[dapper gyro]

EU also doesn't cover military standardization.

[jade holly]

It must be painfully hard to get Europe to agree on things with how many different voices and perspectives are in it

[crystal forum]

the EU is mostly there to act like an organism that sets economical standards for european countries to work together better

[languid meadow]

It's genuinely funny tho watching the other nations keep France out of defense projects atm since they keep asking for stupid stuff to stall it

[crystal forum]

it's like how companies will work together to form standards like USB

but companies can still make their own thing

[jade holly]

I’ve wanted to visit Italy but I’m a bit hesitant now

I heard it has an over tourism problem

[dapper gyro]

Its main role is being a big economic and social represent for Europe.

[crystal forum]

in the end it does give european countries way more leverage in the international trade

also it keeps them from killing eachother

something europeans love to do

[spring cairn]

the main issue is that it's hard to defend yourself from the enemies from within with the current system

[languid meadow]

deport hungarians....

[rocky gale]

Yea, at it's core the EU is a trading bloc that allows Europe to negotiate better deals as a collective entity.

[spring cairn]

I wish we could tie Orban to a rocket and send him in orbit

[jade holly]

Who’s he?

[spring cairn]

russian asset

[jade holly]

Name sounds familiar

[dapper gyro]

UK decided to leave the EU, their deal power dropped significantly, lol.

[rocky gale]

Everything else has just been stuck on with glue as they went along

[spring cairn]

with a right to veto

[jade holly]

Is his first name Victor?

[spring cairn]

Yes

Viktor

[rocky gale]

Yea, it shot the EU economy in the foot and the UK economy in the stomach

[jade holly]

Is there a guy in European history named Vaclav Havel? That name sounds familiar

[crystal forum]

deport him to russia if he loves it so much

remove hungaria from NATO and the EU

watch russia immediately invade it

[rocky gale]

Last president of Czechoslovakia

[jade holly]

Before it split in to Czech Republic and Slovakia?

[languid meadow]

It's so funny that 51% of UK citizens got fucking scammed by a dude named Nigel and now even if they want to rejoin they're prob not getting nowhere near tha amount of benefits they had before

[jade holly]

isn’t he one of the only people who can say he was President of two different countries?

[crystal forum]

nigel farage is still around

[spring cairn]

sadly

[crystal forum]

he's literally the face of conservatives

[languid meadow]

yeah he made the "reform" party

[jade holly]

I hear Starmer isn’t that popular either, or maybe he is idk

[languid meadow]

which the brits will vote for because labour and tories are so stupid

[rocky gale]

Na Kemi is the leader of the Conservatives now

[crystal forum]

and now labour is being so shit that people are moving back to conservatives

[spring cairn]

he's kind of a spineless worm

[jade holly]

Isn’t he trying to introduce a digital Id over there too?

[spring cairn]

a little grub

[crystal forum]

labour has the same problem that american democrats and world wide liberal parties are having

they're bought out by corporatism

and they do jack shit

[spring cairn]

I'd say they have it worse with him

[jade holly]

Honestly the concept of parties in general is a pain in my eyes

[languid meadow]

Nigel is a weird fellow, like he did an interview about trans issues in where he was more progressive than a lot of labour??? Like im pretty sure this is a ploy to get more votes or smth but it was just weird to watch

[jade holly]

Feels like it just divides people on ideological lines

[rocky gale]

Starmer got elected because the Conservatives fell apart, despite the fact he lost a lot of the traditional left wing vote because he was being too right wing, since then he has progressively got further and further right wing

[arctic talon]

This is why Taiwan is based for being bought out with both left wing and right wing parties having criminal connections instead

[spring cairn]

That guy just follows the flow

[arctic talon]

[spring cairn]

no snipe

spine

[rocky gale]

He's going continually right to try and appeal to Conns and Reform, while alienating Labours foundation of left wing supporters

[crystal forum]

typical liberal posturing as left wing during elections and immediately sucking billionaire cock

[dapper gyro]

It painted the UK as a unreliable nation/population, it doesn't have the strength of the US. Many people did protest vote for something they don't know about. Also, the parties didn't disclose all of the consequence to the public.

[rocky gale]

Oh no he didn't even posture as left wing

[crystal forum]

mark carney did that here

[valid needle]

He’s not

[crystal forum]

i hate him

[rocky gale]

He postured as right wing and it lost him votes

and then he kept posturing more and more right wing

[spring cairn]

he's doubling down

[jade holly]

It just seems like no nation these days has good options for leaders

[languid meadow]

UK voters are so fucking weird bro

[jade holly]

like honestly, anytime I hear about modern leaders it’s always bad stuff

[valid needle]

Wdym💀

[crystal forum]

everybody's either bought out or in for their own self gains

this is just the world rn

[arctic talon]

Always

[valid needle]

Oh we do

[crystal forum]

what a bad economy does to man i guess

[spring cairn]

If only I could decide everything alas

[languid meadow]

Guy gets them to leave EU
Will end up winning because voters don't wait to try anything else besides another flavour of cons

like there's a bunch of other parties in the UK

[valid needle]

Just they are always the bottom party and dwarfed by the big two, both in America and uk. It’s always conservatives vs socialists and no other party gets a chance.

[crystal forum]

anyways new york city might elect a good person?

[languid meadow]

the 3 main ones are cooked

[spring cairn]

real

I am this chimp

[languid meadow]

can't believe the NDP lost official party status lmfao

holy bleak

[rocky gale]

Britains media doesn't help the situation

[jade holly]

The two party system is such a tumor on the US. Especially the First Past the Post voting system we got

It’s essentially just only one side gets their way

Sucks to be on the losing half

[valid needle]

Which can’t get anywhere because they get dominated by Labour and Conservatives

[jade holly]

and rinse and repeat

[crystal forum]

there's only enough socialists in american politics that you can count on your fingers. it's not taken seriously at all

[jade holly]

and then there’s the people in the middle who don’t like either of the two with no other options

[spring cairn]

i've always found the two party thing super odd for the so called country of democracy

[dapper gyro]

Canada is also weird. Provincial Cons fighting against Fed cons.

[jade holly]

Washington warned us against it

[dapper gyro]

In both Ontario and Quebec.

[languid meadow]

Both are projected to lose to reform last I checked

[jade holly]

And what do we do?

We make the Democrats and the Whigs

[languid meadow]

Because fed cons are fucking WEIRD

[valid needle]

I was labour my full life but Keir starmer is lowkey pushing me to Green Party💀

[languid meadow]

legit the only two provincial cons that follow them are Sask and Alberta

[jade holly]

I’ve half a mind to make my own party even though that is a Herculean task in of itself let alone what ideals it would stand on

[valid needle]

Oh yes the far right nationalists.

[rocky gale]

Like Reform are a tiny insignificant party in terms of vote share and MP's, they have less relevance than the Green Party. Yet the BBC interviews Reform daily, talks about Reform daily, talks about how Reform could win the next election daily.

[crystal forum]

mark carney pushed me to wanting this whole government to burn down

[spring cairn]

yep

and that's not just the case for our dear UK

it's a worldwide trend

[languid meadow]

NDP has yet to recover after Jacks death

[opaque coyote]

I swear to God why the fuck do we have political parties

[jade holly]

Because there’s money in running a nation

[opaque coyote]

Why don't we just vote on individual issues

[rocky gale]

The BBC is giving an insane amount of coverage to Reform and boosting their popularity because Reform is controversial and it gets clicks

[opaque coyote]

Actually

We do that

[storm jungle]

Because human beings are fucking stupid.

[crystal forum]

you guys are sounding dangerously anarchistic

[opaque coyote]

But the problem is that we need to be in a party

[storm jungle]

also factionalism gathers people more

[opaque coyote]

For some reason

[storm jungle]

just look at 40k lol

[valid needle]

BBC, they are a whole other can of worms.

[dapper gyro]

Ford is the 2nd biggest prov cons, after Smith. Legault in QC is also deeps right in term of economy.

[jade holly]

I’m pretty sure I remember a term that sort of explains why we make parties. Need to recheck before I say it in case I’m wrong

[spring cairn]

Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of UK medias were owned by people with close ties to reform in one way or the other

[dapper gyro]

Just different flavor of cons for each province.

[valid needle]

They flip flop really

[opaque coyote]

True

But also God dammit we cannot just vote on individual issues.

We cannot at least put things like gun control into a separate vote

Instead of being tied to left or right or whatever

[arctic talon]

Tribalism?

[languid meadow]

but yet only Smith is more social conservative like a lot of fed cons.

[crystal forum]

all mass media is owned by the 1%

[jade holly]

I think the term I’m looking for is Tribalism? Someone please correct me if I’m wrong

[valid needle]

The papers and media are for whoever is the highest bidder at the time

[crystal forum]

no shit they push right wing politics

[spring cairn]

One of the biggest media group in france is owned by one guy who's hard pushing for the far right

[storm jungle]

Its basic human psychology yea

its why we had tribes, then cities, then nations yada yada philosophical shit. We are basically accustomed to it.

[valid needle]

If Labour had actually been Labour and not new age conservatives everything would have been fine and dandy. But no.

[languid meadow]

A lot of provincial tories see that being socially conservative doesn't win shit it's a big reason why the CPC and Pierre lost last election

[jade holly]

In a sense we feel lost without it in a weird psychological way

And yet keeping it only hurts us

[rocky gale]

I go between Green and Alliance depending on who the MP is, but it doesn't really matter since being in NI means my vote is pointless.

[crystal forum]

bipartisanship has stopped existing long ago hun

[storm jungle]

Thats because human beings like us are social animals

[languid meadow]

the only time it really works is in fucked up places like Alberta or Sask

[valid needle]

Now it’s like our socialist party is centre right and our conservatives are far right

[languid meadow]

because the voting here is fucked

[dapper gyro]

Good luck trying that in QC, lol.

[jade holly]

I remember reading something about Canada that intrigued me but I forget what it was called

[languid meadow]

Moe and Smith can rot in hell

[crystal forum]

just call it liberal instead of socialist ez

[valid needle]

I’m pretty set to switch to green

[jade holly]

I think Equalization? Once again could be thinking of the wrong term so please correct me

Something about West Canada getting its wealth sent to the eastern part? Idk might just be making it up

[languid meadow]

Equalization is not even that big of an issue it's just something that Smith and her cronies push

[rocky gale]

It's also mad that we have stv in local Stormont elections, yet Westminster elections are still First past the post

[valid needle]

Also same in Scotland. English voters usually get to decide it all.

[jade holly]

We need Ranked Choice Voting in the US honestly

[crystal forum]

that's the classic albertan conspiracy theory

i literally had an albertan talk to me about that in darktide yesterday

[opaque coyote]

IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO NOT HATE RANDOM GROUPS OF MINORITIES

[languid meadow]

Smith wants to push the law so that the supreme court can step in and she can go "LOOK THE EAST HATES US"

[valid needle]

No you know what we really need

[dapper gyro]

Eastern Canada offer a lot of services and manufacturing that the Western Canada never mentions in such reports.

[crystal forum]

it's like albertans are brainwashed i swear

[spring cairn]

to kill all politicians ?

[valid needle]

We need all the leading MP of each party to just have a royal rumble and winner becomes prime minister

[jade holly]

So in painfully simplified terms East Canada is Industrial and West Canada is Agricultural?

[languid meadow]

Legit the only problem I have with the eash is that west feels ignored due to how the voting structure works

[jade holly]

We need to bring back duels in the US 🗣️ 🔥

[languid meadow]

like once Ontario is dont counting it doesn't matter

[crystal forum]

the funniest thing is how alberta tries to make this into a west vs east issue while british columbia hates them

[rocky gale]

Also casual reminder that the UK has had voter ID laws since the 90s, but only for Northern Ireland.

[valid needle]

Frfr

[opaque coyote]

Honor duel between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

Let's see it

[dapper gyro]

Kind of.

[jade holly]

Spirit of Andrew Jackson guide my hand in this duel 🗣️

[languid meadow]

Alberta is both agri and industrial

sask is more agri

[valid needle]

Donald Trump and whoever the new democrat leader is now, battling it out with swords on the front White House lawn.

[arctic talon]

Why don’t politicians just beat the shit out of each other in parliament

[valid needle]

Winner gets America

[languid meadow]

BC is also a lot of both as well

[crystal forum]

voter ID laws are just anti democratic

[dapper gyro]

Montreal and Toronto are still much stronger cities in Canada, there is a reason for it.

[spring cairn]

they already do

in some countries

[jade holly]

Until further notice I believe the democratic choices atm are Harris or Newsom

[arctic talon]

Not enough

[languid meadow]

Centeral location and easy trade

[arctic talon]

Taiwan only has it every couple months

[crystal forum]

politically they are very different is what im saying

[storm jungle]

D(EI)uel 😔

[rocky gale]

Especially when the laws apply to only one region in the entire country

[arctic talon]

I need weekly brawls

Smh

[opaque coyote]

Andrew Jackson was an asshole. Possibly the second worst president we had in USA history.

But at the same time, you cannot say he didn't have bite to his bark.

[storm jungle]

was Andrew Jackson that EXTREMELY racist president

[crystal forum]

the US does it massively but it's hidden by state laws

[storm jungle]

or was that Wilson

[jade holly]

Wilson

[opaque coyote]

Both

[languid meadow]

I know I was just saying in the terms of economy, in the west it's only really sask that's mostly agri

with Manitoba, Alberta, and BC having both

[jade holly]

Wilson was the one that screened Birth of a Nation in the White House tmk

[rocky gale]

So England, Wales and Scotland were able to vote without ID, but Northern Ireland you needed photographic ID to vote in the same election

[valid needle]

Who wasn’t tbh

[crystal forum]

alberta economy when the oil reserves go dry:

[storm jungle]

hence the "extremely" bit

[jade holly]

Theodore Roosevelt 🗿

[storm jungle]

I guess Trumpy is coming close nowadays lol

[storm jungle]

actually

he was extremely racist towards Natives

lmao

which sucks

[languid meadow]

ANDP LITERALLY SET US UP TO BE LIKE QUEBEC IN TERMS OF NUCLEAR AND WIND POWER EXPORTS

BUT SMITH

FUCK YOU

[valid needle]

We would be faster listing the world leaders who weren’t racists

[jade holly]

Yes, the list would be empty

[arctic talon]

For the time no

Wilson was extremely racist for his time

[spring cairn]

I was getting more into modern north american native history and that shit is bleak

[crystal forum]

smith literally wants the province to suckle oil's teat forever it's so funny

[jade holly]

Fun fact: Churchill and Theodore Roosevelt hated each other

[spring cairn]

it does not get in fact better

[jade holly]

Cause of how similar they were

[languid meadow]

She's so bad it's causing a split in the cons here

[arctic talon]

But Jackson was def a piece of shit

lol

[languid meadow]

legit a group of them have split off from them to recreate the PCs

[storm jungle]

I saw a wikipedia user once just say that editing/writing stuff up for the Native Americans and their treatment by the US was "probably the most depressing and harrowing thing I had to research, edit, compile and put on digital paper."

[languid meadow]

which is hilarious

[storm jungle]

which yeah checks out

[dapper gyro]

Quebec and the Atlantic did a long term move, high gas price, but so much cheaper in winter heating.

[languid meadow]

since the wild rose party took over our cons

[crystal forum]

they all want to be trump and do whatever they want but they have none of the charisma

[valid needle]

Understandable

[jade holly]

I honestly wonder when the big energy race will kick off once one nation decides to start investing in nuclear energy

[spring cairn]

It's genuinely soul crushing because it's actually kind of still on going

[languid meadow]

she just got her teeth kicked in by teachers

[valid needle]

The Americans did some pretty horrible things to the Native American peoples.

[crystal forum]

wdym plenty of countries are super on nuclear rn

like france

[storm jungle]

It was basically nazi tier warcrimes

the difference is the US won

[crystal forum]

it's literally just the oil industry that keeps the world addicted to gas

[jade holly]

In a larger scale. I know many in the US are stigmatized to it cause of Chernobyl and the one in Japan I’m blaming on the name of

[languid meadow]

She tried to ban books in which the teachers took down a bunch of ones (mainly bibles and other stuff like it) and she hated that

they're doing a strike right now and she's panicking considering the school year just started

[jade holly]

and yeah fossil fuel companies making sure we don’t invest in it cause they’ll lose money

[crystal forum]

but remember nothing is more democratic than capitalism apparently

so they say

[dapper gyro]

It is funny that Ontario, Quebec and the Atlantic calm down their insults to fight against Alberta.

[spring cairn]

I don't understand people who are against nuclear energy

they're either paid actors or dense

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[jade holly]

Honestly I can kind of understand due to the massive destruction a plant failure caused

[languid meadow]

LET ME MOVE EAST

PLEASE

[jade holly]

Like sure we are way safer with them now

But that still left a horrifying impact

[crystal forum]

it really isn't that many people all things considered. it's mostly just never happening because of the costs to build plants and the cheapness of oil

all things done on purpose by the oil industry

[languid meadow]

SMRs are being made in Ontario last I checked

[dapper gyro]

Japan uses a lot of nuclear, they literally have no other choice.

[spring cairn]

yeah I can understand, but the other ways we make energy are not safe either and have caused much harm and long term irreparable damage

[languid meadow]

one of the few good things Ford has done

[valid needle]

Yeah it’s horrible. But of course it’s ok because it was le heckin wholesome good guys US of A.

[spring cairn]

long term irreparable damage to, let me check, the entire fucking world

[storm jungle]

Yep, not much to do now unfortunately 💀

[crystal forum]

dont trust those things. they're made to be used by the tech industry

they are not good replacements for real reactors

[languid meadow]

it's SMRs and normal plants

[jade holly]

Japan engineers are honestly insane considering they need to not only plan for the usual things structures need but also combatting the major environmental things they have to deal with like earthquakes and tsunamis

[languid meadow]

but I hope SMRs one day can be used

[jade holly]

They are on another level in my eyes

[crystal forum]

i will never fucking trust a company to own nuclear plants

[spring cairn]

here in germany we've had strong anti-nuclear movements

which cost us deeply

[crystal forum]

why germany of all places

you're right next to france which has so many

[spring cairn]

because coal lobby strong

[languid meadow]

GERMANY LOVE COAL

YUM

[dapper gyro]

Shin Godzilla, a movie about modern Japan's nuclear problem.

[spring cairn]

and also

ppl scared cuz chernobyl

[dapper gyro]

It is a fun watch.

[spring cairn]

so they're easy to coherce

[languid meadow]

wasn't Shin more about how dogshit the govs response was to the triple disaster more than nuclear

[jade holly]

Honestly the best way to sway those who are afraid cause of Chernobyl is to show them how much safer reactors are nowadays compared to then

[spring cairn]

but the lesson in chernobyl isn't that nuclear powerplants can be dangerous nono no no

[languid meadow]

that's what the meeting scenes show

[jade holly]

The amount of failsafes a reactor has is insane

[spring cairn]

it's that russia fucking sucks

[languid meadow]

that htey had meetings for more meetings instead of doing anything

[dapper gyro]

Yes, it was a critic on Japanese government. Down play things, slow reaction, paper works to benefit some small group of people.

[crystal forum]

also chernobyl was much less of a world wide disaster than people believe

[spring cairn]

it was a big deal in central europe

[dapper gyro]

Meanwhile, Japanese people are one of the most willing to sacrifice their lives for their country.

[crystal forum]

because people only give a shit about something if it affects them personally

[spring cairn]

in the entirety of europe actually

[crystal forum]

it really wasn't to the level that's dramatized

[spring cairn]

not in actually

[jade holly]

What counts as Western,Eastern, Northern Southern and Central Europe btw?

[spring cairn]

but felt

[spring cairn]

everywhere west of russia

[crystal forum]

the levels of radiation that were sent in the air were incredibly minimal

people dont understand how you get so much radiation bombarded on you daily by the sun

[spring cairn]

yes, but the damage was what it did to the people's mind

because it scared a lot of people and was covered by the medias extensively

[languid meadow]

it was more of the ground water contamination that was the biggest problem but that solved itself and the concret pad wasn't fully needed

[jade holly]

Haven’t we learned how to recycle nuclear waste too?

[crystal forum]

no not really

[spring cairn]

no

[crystal forum]

nuclear waste has to be stored not reused

some of it is used in niche applications

[spring cairn]

but i think we should all throw our nuclear wastes at countries i don't like in order to make them useful

[crystal forum]

but not the majority

[spring cairn]

with big cartoon catapults

[crystal forum]

but anyways the problems with stored nuclear waste are again minimal

[dapper gyro]

We do, but it takes time.

[languid meadow]

what do you define as nuclear waste tho because we can recycle some of it

[jade holly]

Specifically nations you do not like. No one else is allowed to decide

[spring cairn]

yes

[jade holly]

you alone shall aim our waste

Godspeed

[spring cairn]

I am without flaws

[valid needle]

France.

[jade holly]

He who is lacking in flaws

[spring cairn]

erm

[crystal forum]

all trash should be sent into dubai, new york and most of california

[dapper gyro]

Also, the US used some dogshit reactor that don't fully use the fuel, which leave dangerous waste, which is used for nuclear weaponry.

[crystal forum]

i'd say a chinese city but they have already so much garbage

[spring cairn]

how convenient

[dapper gyro]

A big danger of nuclear reactor comes of US own action.

[languid meadow]

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Jyggalag, Princess of Order (@_Jyggalag_)

Whichever one is cooler is canon

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[crystal forum]

having to buy 80$ rulebooks to get access to the only lore that matters apparently

[storm jungle]

You guys buy rulebooks?

[spring cairn]

You guys buy ?

I steal

[crystal forum]

reading a 800 page abnet book only to be told that half the stuff in it isn't lore accurate

[storm jungle]

tbh its Abnett

guy has dementia, he does what he wants

[crystal forum]

rulebook lore fans when terminus decree

[dapper gyro]

Permanently borrowed.

[crystal forum]

emergency requisitioned (im hungry)

[sour hornet]

Imperium mfs in RT when you literally just act sane for 3 seconds

[crystal forum]

and the game still punishes you in some way

[storm jungle]

good

[crystal forum]

see i saved the plebs on the planet not because i like them but because i wanted the nobles to see themselves being ignored and left to die

[sour hornet]

I literally got 5 seconds into Act 2 and started thinking like this

[crystal forum]

and the game still punishes me!!!!

[sour hornet]

The longer I'm rogue trader, the more I start appreciating why Stalin and Mao just started shooting people

[crystal forum]

the game does a good job at making iconoclast seem lame as fuck

so you end up going with chaos or loyalist

[sour hornet]

yeah I went heretical immediately

[crystal forum]

just more proof that 40k hates nuanced characters

[sour hornet]

I didnt even know the governor woman on Janus was a cultist, I immediately had her killed for letting me get ambushed on my own planet

[crystal forum]

abelard, cut off her head

we all need a homie like abelard

[sour hornet]

Same

I ruined my relationship with him though

[crystal forum]

you monster

[sour hornet]

I told him to shut his old, unc ass up during the lower deck uprising

I dont need his input

[crystal forum]

what was his input again

[sour hornet]

"lord captain, you diverting your time to walk the lower decks to deal with this issue is obscene, Lady Theodora—" after that I pressed skip and told him to stfu

[crystal forum]

oh right yeah

while the crew is ripping eachother apart

[sour hornet]

Oh yeah

Theodora is a moron

Anyone listening to her needs to be ignored

[crystal forum]

i never finished the game lol

hard difficulty and so much reading

i prob should pick it up again

[storm jungle]

skill issue

literally

[sacred bluff]

reading good, reading in video games bad

[nocturne crest]

If the Harlequinn got an rule that allowed them to hijack units from other armies, like the GSC can do with brood brothers, would anyone be for or against it?

[arctic talon]

It wouldn’t make a lot of sense

Lore wise

[storm jungle]

Yeah Harlequins are acrobatic murderclown performers

[rose thorn]

i miss codex harlequins

[storm jungle]

they dont infect people lol

[rose thorn]

okay i gotta fuck with what 'espandors' means as a space marine chapter in my head

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, I was just reading the Masque of the Twisted Path, that basically brainwash t'au, guard and orks into fighting for them.

[rose thorn]

wartorn forest planet with low popultaion

[rose thorn]

oh thatsj ust them

their hobby is fucking wiht poeple

[rose thorn]

Italian name, their planet is on the edge of ultramar subsector, its a low poulation, its been ravanged by world eaters, tryanids, and nurgle, its the origin of tyrannic wra veterans being apart of the codex astarties....

[strong bison]

mindshackle scarabs

[rose thorn]

heavily forested

mmmmmmmm

oh yeah xenos hasnt had have allies since ilke 8th editon

[strong bison]

people would ally eldar and tau a lot

[rose thorn]

yeah but 40k hates giving anyone except the imperium joy and whimsy and flavor in their lists

[strong bison]

I get plenty of whimsy with my orks, no one can stop 120 boyz

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[valid needle]

It’s based Maggie and you know it is

[rose thorn]

hey brother corswain your a space marine fan

when you hear a space marine chapter called espandors

what do you think of

[strong bison]

Espandor is a world in Ultramar

[rose thorn]

i know

adn espandors is a space marine chapter

one who hasnt been mentioned in 24 irl years

i decided i will steal

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Espandors

[strong bison]

Make them Spanish Marines

[rose thorn]

espandors is probably based off espande which is italian

[strong bison]

What is it in Latin?

[rose thorn]

huh good question

okay the same for italian

in italian expande means someone who expands

liek power

[strong bison]

Inflation Marines

[rose thorn]

and espandor is on the dege of the ultramar subsector so its a pun of like "these guys are at the every edge of the expanse"

[rose thorn]

burn

[vagrant fox]

Espadon is swordfish in French innit
Fishy themes

[strong bison]

finanical inflation

[rose thorn]

espand, a Mitterrandian seed for incense, espande, italian for expansion fo ones power, now espandon which is a sword fish

my guess is the italian meaning because is ultramraines

[strong bison]

I prefer the Iron Snakes

[rose thorn]

my ocd wont let me do iron snakes so i have ot hyerp fixate on a word that doenst exist

[strong bison]

cool chapter, Ultramarine succsessor, they throw javalins are giant sea serpents for initiation

[rose thorn]

i live in hell

[vagrant fox]

Or esplendor which is, well, splendor in spanish and portugese

[storm jungle]

Esplentors 🤔

[nocturne crest]

Apart from Orks, can all the remaining xenos factions use brainwashing to capture/turn humans?

[sour hornet]

I appreciate that sorcerers in 40k wear armor and not lame ass robes

[storm jungle]

Not really no.

[strong bison]

Maybe Nautical theme. excelles in ship based comabt

[storm jungle]

I got bad news

[rose thorn]

HJAAHAHAHA

[strong bison]

Expansion is usually done with ships back in the day

[sour hornet]

I mean Ahriman is ballin in his set of armor

[valid needle]

I don’t know honestly

[storm jungle]

They represent the Lollipop Guild

[strong bison]

I mean, Tyranids Brainwash, it's called Genestealers

Necrons have scarabs

Tau have retirement plans

[valid needle]

Can’t say I have ever heard it before so I have no feelings towards it

[rose thorn]

i imagine espandors were founded because the edges of the ultramra sector get invaded ot shit constantly so their goal is kinda to stay ahead of that

[sour hornet]

"Robes? Fool! We are going to battle, not a ball. Hand me my armour! ARMOUR!"

—Total Warhammer 3, Warrior Wizard Skill Description

[storm jungle]

but yeah every wizard in 40k wears robes

its like one of the top lists on the trope

[strong bison]

weirdboys have the OPTION of clothes

[sour hornet]

Yeah, if they're lame and not space marines

[strong bison]

https://tenor.com/view/weirdboy-space-marine-ork-psykers-ard-boy-summon-gif-25458619

[sour hornet]

^ armor under the robes

[strong bison]

People like Dark Angels because of the robes

[storm jungle]

robes

[sour hornet]

Also armor

Look at that breastplate

[strong bison]

Those are PANTS

[rose thorn]

what route should i take the espandors? obviosuly teh ywill be ultramrine sucessors anhyper codex complaint.

[valid needle]

I’d say non compliant

[strong bison]

Lots of Assault Intercessors

[storm jungle]

Mag i feel like you should be asking these to yourself instead of a schizophrenic chat

lol

[rose thorn]

ive already been talking to my slef forlike 3 hours about it lol

im already insane

[storm jungle]

And I have been doing it to myself for months, you need to rely on your own brain

[strong bison]

You got a paint scheme figured out? That's the first step

[valid needle]

You could say because they are on the outer perimeter of ultramar that guilliman allows them to be non compliant with as many men as they need to defend it.

[strong bison]

Iron Snakes show you dont need to be completely compliant with the Codex. As their structure is based off squads instead of companies

[valid needle]

There’s lots of non compliant chapters

It’s more a guide these days

[vagrant fox]

Given they need to help protect a large area I would consider a naval tradition to some extent

[strong bison]

As per Guilliman "What? No this is outdated" to his own book

Ship to Ship combat, really play into the MARINE part of their names

[valid needle]

So it’s a fleet based chapter then

[arctic talon]

Ultimately marines should only be commanding a ship while the rest of the ship is crewed with slaves serfs

[strong bison]

Dont need to be fleet based to have a big fleet

[valid needle]

Or imperial navy

[strong bison]

Space Marines dont trust the Navy anywhere near their ships

Maybe if they find an officer they like, but it's mostly crewed by serfs and the marines themselves

[rose thorn]

fair point

[strong bison]

could be worse, could be asking 4chan

[valid needle]

Since when?

[strong bison]

Since forever. Space Marines have their own secrets they feel are best kept within the chapter than letting a third party be privy to.

[rose thorn]

i think the 3 advantages i have is theres a planet wth a good amount of lore and enviroment, a foudnign chapter, adn the hardest part a name

and i knwo what i want for liek the 3 most importnat questions

[storm jungle]

...thats not every Chapter thoguh lol

[valid needle]

Nearly all the ships in Horus heresy are manned by imperial navy though

[rose thorn]

a purpose of creation, opinion on codex, and i forgot the third one

[strong bison]

Yeah but the Battle Barges and other smaller ships are exclusive to the Astartes

[rose thorn]

oh shita c olroscheem i dont have that will kill me

and a chapter symbol

[valid needle]

Legit never heard of this but I’ll take your word for it

[strong bison]

The Navy and the Guard were once just the Army until they split it up after the HH

[valid needle]

Wardens of The Dark

[rose thorn]

....?

[valid needle]

Since they guard ultramar on its dark edges

[rose thorn]

fair

[strong bison]

That would be a cool Custodes name

[rose thorn]

unironiclly this is alreday a combination of all my previouys ideas for chapters

whic hwas prety lucky

ultra marine hero lovers, live on edge of ultramar subsector,

uh

thats kidna it

[strong bison]

They'd have to fight a lot of T'au

[arctic talon]

Well

Depends on what edge

[rose thorn]

uhh i have a picutre

[strong bison]

oh yeah, that's Tau space

[rose thorn]

also i have a pciture of the planet

theres only 2 ciites and htey are right next to each other lmao

[arctic talon]

Neat

[rose thorn]

thank the writers reuisng htis planet 4 times

[strong bison]

hive cities or just normal cities?

[valid needle]

Good

[rose thorn]

factory cities, which probably just do wood

[strong bison]

some nice feral settlements they can pull recruits from

[rose thorn]

?

[storm jungle]

oh my god maggie

RECRUITING

[strong bison]

factory workers are NOT good stock for neophytes

[rose thorn]

OHHH okay sory iw as goign crazy did i accidnetally say feral planet

[strong bison]

Unless they got good gang warfare

[rose thorn]

I KNOW I THOUGHT IWA SGOING CRAAZY

[rose thorn]

the planet got completley taken over by chaos like 2 times, once by nurgle really recently, so i imagine everyones already a survivor lmao

[strong bison]

Unless the Inquisition didn't purge the planet and bring in new settlers

[storm jungle]

Also maggie remember

the conditions of the recruit worlds usually mean jack and shit

all that proper training and experience comes as they are trained to be marines

and also survive the surgery process etc

[strong bison]

You don't exactly want some malnourished child as a recruit

[rose thorn]

dont psychotic childrne make the best recruits

[strong bison]

Space Wolves pick from those who fought on the battlefield on Fenris

[sacred ginkgo]

and most of them are probably malnourished

[rose thorn]

and space wolves also have like bottom 3 worst recruitment programs lmao

[strong bison]

Slamanders make you fight a fire breathing lizard as a kid

Imperial Fists like to visit Necromunda

[rose thorn]

well the people the salamadners draw from have evolved to be like more successful for that

[arctic talon]

Realistically no

And also in lore

Not really

[rose thorn]

fair

[arctic talon]

Though children with psychopathic tendencies def make better marines

Overall

You don’t need that

[rose thorn]

yeah of course

[arctic talon]

Hypo indoctrination helps a ton

[strong bison]

You really just want someone who can survive, hardy kids mean they have better chances of making it through.

[arctic talon]

Tbh ultimately compatibility matters a lot

Marines normally do tests

Before the trials

[storm jungle]

The reasons marines recruit psychos from awful warrior cultures is mostly a masculine dumbassery thing

[strong bison]

If they fail, you get a new serf

[storm jungle]

They very much dont

the strongest potential recruits have died on the operating table

[strong bison]

Calgar survived by being hardy

[storm jungle]

its to showcase how meaningless the trials pre-surgery are

[rose thorn]

i imagine a chapter from an already lower than usual pop planet probably avoid drawing too hard too fast

[arctic talon]

Yep

[storm jungle]

hes a canon mary sue character

bad example lol

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

If they’re smart yeah

if they’re dumb

Well

[strong bison]

Its all dumb, this is why I play orks

[arctic talon]

But in lore the life someone lives before the implantation

Has no real effect on the end result

[strong bison]

my 5 day old boy can rip a man in half

[storm jungle]

thats not the same point or logic though

[storm jungle]

my Chapter the Aurum Sons live on a civilized-world that is basically like industrial greece/spain

theres some warrior culture but for the most part the population is very civilized minus the outskirts of cities

they just hold trials annually for recruits every few years

and just take anyone that manages it

its tradition and they accept anyone

theres more to being a space marine than being a good warrior

[dapper gyro]

Some SMs do genetic selection instead of physical trial to increase their recruit chance to survive.

[rose thorn]

OOOO great point

[dapper gyro]

The method is still very dumb.

[rose thorn]

thats a great way to not accidentally purge the population of a planet

[storm jungle]

Yeah I borrowed it from the Ultras who basically do the exact same thing in older lore lol

and yeah the population is kept healthy as well

I also sometimes made them just handpick potential recruits they think might be promising from other worlds in the sector they are in as well

[strong bison]

Blood Ravens throw kids out in the desert with auto guns and fight orks

[storm jungle]

so its not really just always locked to a homeworld

[storm jungle]

yeah because they are stupid

and theres a reason 90% of their Chapter died lol

[strong bison]

Watched over by the Chap and the Librarian

Then the nids came

[storm jungle]

very based

[dapper gyro]

Doing touch stuff to show the manliness... It is like doing those alpha male camps...

[strong bison]

Think all the kids died, mostly because the orks went from being feral spear throwing to shooting rokkits overnight

[rose thorn]

feel liek the espandors would be super super proud of their linage, since their chapter name is litearlly 'were form espandor'

[storm jungle]

probably

depends on how much spanish they know

https://tenor.com/view/salamanca-salamancas-cousins-the-cousins-breaking-bad-gif-21202254

[strong bison]

Its your chapter man, you make up the lore

[rose thorn]

tehcnically tsi gw's

[storm jungle]

also its easier said than done

[rose thorn]

i juts an pscyhotic

[storm jungle]

its very easy to make your Chapter mary sue lol

[strong bison]

Yeah, but if there's not enough to go off, you fill in the blanks

[dapper gyro]

You have more chance of dying in the alpha male camp than doing actual SF selection.

[strong bison]

Gotta cull the weak

[rose thorn]

hypotheically the chatper was founded after theplague wars

which oudl be ultima

im like 90% sure

[strong bison]

perfect explination as to why they're all primaris

[vagrant fox]

Getting children killed in the needless death trials rules bro hell yeah

[rose thorn]

i dobt udnerstand 40ks dating system lmao

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

okay yeah ultima

i read the calander backwards

[strong bison]

Death Guard used to have recruits cross a chasm of toxic gases with a single line of rope

Night Lords just needed you to skin a person

[arctic talon]

Legion recruitment was way more

Rough

Much more quantity

[strong bison]

needed to when you can send entire expeditions to their deaths

[rose thorn]

die scam bot

OH i missed this fact about Espandor, its a cardinal planet

[young pecan]

I hate that chapters do this and then their marines are the same as everyone else's

[rose thorn]

so the chapter is most likley followers of the ecclesiarhcy

[young pecan]

At least the Cadians are glazed as killing machines because of the fact that they do it

[dapper gyro]

Well, most SM chapters do that.

Very few of them recruit in a humane way.

[young pecan]

I should reiterate and say the marines are stupid despite being raised in a way that objectively requires wit to survive

Running in headfirst into a 1v20 for no reason

[dapper gyro]

The more reasonable ones are the ones with histories of being almost wiped out.

[young pecan]

"Please join"

[strong bison]

the traditions are needed to keep them from falling to chaos

[young pecan]

Gotta say though, it is classic human behavior to only be reasonable when faced with potential extinction

[storm jungle]

Its not lol

you are kept from falling to chaos by not being a fucking gullible idiot

why do you think Chaplains exist

[strong bison]

The traditions form a strong bond of brotherhood through the chapter, which is what the Legions lacked.

Was how the Warrior Lodges wormed their way in

[storm jungle]

The warrior lodges wormed their way in by the illusion that space marines couldnt bond with each other or share their opinions lol

traditions mean jackshit

Chapters like Raptors fare fine without any of that stuff

[green loom]

The traditions are majorly irrelevant for the most part

[storm jungle]

^

they are kept because... well they are traditions lol

[green loom]

It's just the thing they do because they're monastic warrior creatures

[storm jungle]

^

Its for the "vibe"

[arctic talon]

The Libators should keep on drinking blood

And killing people

It’s badass

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

yeah

libators are peak

[arctic talon]

See Mag agrees with me

[green loom]

The ones that ditch them for others or just outright aren't really less effective

[rose thorn]

"GULLIMAN I DRINK THE BLOOD OF THIS CHAOS LORD IN YOUR NAME"

[rose thorn]

doign blood sacrifices tog ulliman and reading the codex astarties as a bible is peak

[dapper gyro]

Well, some of those are also to keep themselves somewhat more secretive. If the recruit only goes half way through, they might know too much and could become a liability.

[strong bison]

Black Templars got the best traditions

[rose thorn]

i think espandor might just be rural italy the size of aplanet

[strong bison]

Ultramarines are already space Rome

[dapper gyro]

Mental trials should be considered more than just physical, but it won't get mentioned often, because real men have no need for psychology.

[strong bison]

or was it Space Greece?

[rose thorn]

greece

also almost the same thing by 40k standards

[strong bison]

Space Sicilians

[dapper gyro]

Ultramarine is rome, and they are not the only one to use the great Roman Empire theme.

[arctic talon]

Ultramarines are space Greome

More Rome tho

[dapper gyro]

There are a dozen of them.

[lament shoal]

They're marines that are ultra

[dapper gyro]

War Born sounds better though.

[rose thorn]

hey is there anythign specific to cardinal worlds or is it just a middle of the road world lead by a priest

[strong bison]

Minotaurs are Spartans for sure

Spears and shields

[storm jungle]

They are greek

but yes

[strong bison]

sparta is in greek

[dapper gyro]

Custodes are also greece themed.

[storm jungle]

Somewhat

they take inspirations from mediterreanean/asiatic cultures

[arctic talon]

It’s a religion focused world

[dapper gyro]

More Spartan theme than Minotaur.

[strong bison]

Custodes are just big golden bananas that protect the emperor

[arctic talon]

Lots of prayers and temples

[storm jungle]

no

then again I doubt most people know history

[strong bison]

Until you let loose the harliquins into the palace

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-entrance-omni-man-explode-gif-21497546

[dapper gyro]

In old lore, big E has 300 companions, the more trusted custodes. Guess where that's from.

[strong bison]

During his crusade on earth?

[dapper gyro]

After

[rose thorn]

ahhhh okay makes sense

[strong bison]

Oh, that's not a lot of bodyguards

[arctic talon]

It’s 300 specific custodes

[dapper gyro]

There are 10k of them, but 300 to be this maids.

[strong bison]

Would make it more impressive since Emps and his custodes crushed an ork waaagh and only lost 2

[storm jungle]

they can die from mining lasers

lol

[strong bison]

I thought it was the 1000

[storm jungle]

10,000*

which is also a history reference

[arctic talon]

Rock saw beats power armor

[strong bison]

Reason why Chainfists exist

[dapper gyro]

They also use glaive/sprear and shield.

[strong bison]

It's just a powerfist with a tiny chainsaw

[lament shoal]

Genestealer cultists with the comically large industrial mineral cutter

[arctic talon]

Gsc about to make the streets of Fallujah look like a walk in the park

[storm jungle]

Its cool. Next question.

[dapper gyro]

Minotaur is like a marine knock off of the custodes (apple to orange, I know)

[arctic talon]

I FUCKING LOVE DEMO CHARGES

[strong bison]

Lore for Custodes ranges from "One warden can kill an entire chapter" to "gets mogged by a no named chaos marine"

[storm jungle]

Not really

it can be inconsistent but nowhere near that lol

I wish people read lore tbh

[lament shoal]

One tyranillion reductus saboteurs

[dapper gyro]

Source for the 2nd part?

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/77176186148499456/1221682373834444923/catdemolyst.gif

Suspiciously bomb shaped cake

Jokes aside gsc’s best iteration of rules were the 9e ones

[dapper gyro]

The worst it is was when a Harley killed a few of the Custodes, but the clown is custode equivalent and was juiced in warp magic.

[arctic talon]

Where they literally fought like insurgents or urban warfare experts and setup cross fire killing zones, IEDs and other stuff

lol

Now all they got is ambushes and IEDs

Smh

[storm jungle]

Harlequins arent "juiced"

they just are that good lol

[arctic talon]

Setting up a proper cross fire and gunning down marines was fucking hilarious to watch

[dapper gyro]

That particular one got a boost when he got into the palace, no?

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Hm how can you say “we were almost completely destroyed/taken over 3-4 times but we got over it” like a nationalist from a country no one heard of

Should ask my polish friends

[strong bison]

clowns are hard to hit

the honking throws them off

[lament shoal]

Wasn't there a case where a drukhari somehow got into the throne room and then immediately got jumped by the custodes? Or did that not happen

[storm jungle]

No lol

[rose thorn]

Harlequins did that I believe

I might be dead wrong

But also they are the second most Mary sue thing in the setting

[arctic talon]

Love your job as much as this dude does

[storm jungle]

A haemonculus just arrived on Terra, he was nowhere near the throneroom yet the agony of the planet/palace itself made him go ecstatic as he just fucked off to the underhive to make flesh monsters

[arctic talon]

So much suffering

[storm jungle]

based tbh

[arctic talon]

lol

[strong bison]

Something about sticks of dynamite still being the best explosive 40k years in the future

[storm jungle]

they arent really the best

they just make do

[lament shoal]

This mf 5 seconds into his trip to Terra:

[dapper gyro]

Do it once and he is set for life!

[arctic talon]

Gsc literally use whatever explosives lol

The dynamite is just easy to get since so many work as miners

[strong bison]

Think that happened during the War of the Beast

[arctic talon]

And the imperium uses it

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-professor-x-come-to-me-gif-11721170243175208720

The star children telling poor starving gsc children how best make an improvised bomb vest

[strong bison]

Still recovering from the events of the Horus Heresy, the Imperium is again beset. This time it is the Ork menace of a powerful Warlord, known only as The Beast, that almost overruns Mankind, bringing their war all the way to the gates of Terra itself. Bound by oath and duty, the Custodians take little part in the sprawling conflict, save to strike down a force of Aeldari who attempt to cut a path to the Emperor's throne room during the chaos and confusion.

[rose thorn]

I ruined my own joke

[strong bison]

I gotta listen to those books sometime now that they're bundled

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

the funniest part is that very much is accurate

[strong bison]

https://tenor.com/view/squig-warhammer-gif-25817930

[lament shoal]

I love GSCs

[storm jungle]

they are my favorite terrorists

[rose thorn]

They are the best faction they need like 5 more kits though

[storm jungle]

blowing up imperials is also always morally ok

[arctic talon]

You mean

Glorious liberators

[storm jungle]

lmao

[strong bison]

Should really add genestealers of other races. They need a bigger range of models

[storm jungle]

they really dont

its also too much effort

[strong bison]

They really do

[arctic talon]

I’d rather them just expand on the Current range

lol

[storm jungle]

Nah lol

[arctic talon]

Give them more units

[storm jungle]

expand the current range

[arctic talon]

Heavy mining gear squad

[rose thorn]

Maybe next edition GSCs won’t have rules made for lobotomies

[arctic talon]

LOL

[lament shoal]

They're totally not gonna get eaten when the nids star children arrive

[arctic talon]

I want a GSC heavy weapons team

[dapper gyro]

This channel is Laati and Maggie ADHD dump.

[storm jungle]

Some actually dont

[arctic talon]

With a bunch of improvised heavy weapons

[rose thorn]

OCD not adhd

[storm jungle]

theres fleet-based GSC where they just planet hop spreading infection

[lament shoal]

Ik but they do in most cases

[strong bison]

They lack any real punching power, the abominations are much too slow with current tournaments

[storm jungle]

thats just meta garbage

it fluctuates

so doesnt really matter

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Gsc got a weak codex

This edition

It’s not even that weak

[lament shoal]

I don't care if the faction is shit I'm gonna play it because I LIKE it

[rose thorn]

WHERE IS MY CROSS FIRE GW

[strong bison]

They did lose a lot of their cool weapon options

[arctic talon]

Not really

[strong bison]

GW fused a lot of weapons together

[arctic talon]

They just got way worse

They gimped mining lasers

[storm jungle]

also speaking of rebels

[arctic talon]

Oh the melees

Yeah I agree that was lame

[storm jungle]

Wolf what was the munda rulebook that talks about the outcasts

[rose thorn]

And got rid of like the most fucking fun rules out of every faction

[storm jungle]

and that fucking nutjob enforcer vigilante guy

[arctic talon]

The ash waste ones?

Or ashwood

[storm jungle]

No idea

[rose thorn]

And made them a melee faction AAAAAAAA

[lament shoal]

Okay genuinely how tf does anyone in munda get anything done with all the gang wars happening

[storm jungle]

i assumed the ex-cop was IN the main rulebook lol

[storm jungle]

The planet is gigantic

gang wars dont cover every square metre

lol

Hives are also big

AND

[lament shoal]

Would be funny if they did

[storm jungle]

If the gang wars DO distrupt the quotas

[rose thorn]

Everyone knows terrorist are best known for using honorable melee combat right guys

[storm jungle]

the palatines come in

and fucking murder everyone

[arctic talon]

Necromunda Book of the Outcasts

[storm jungle]

(no joke btw they actually do)

[storm jungle]

ty ty

[strong bison]

Dont mess with the Guilds

[arctic talon]

Ashwood Stranger aka necromunda Batman

Is in that book

[lament shoal]

Those guys got cool armor

[rose thorn]

The guilds usually are funding the gang wars tbf

[arctic talon]

My GOAT

[dapper gyro]

Then the IF passes. by every now and then and some people lose their shits.

[storm jungle]

they are Governor Trumpmawr's most well trained and stocked troops

[lament shoal]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

[strong bison]

But you never fuck with the Guild's bottom dollar, scouring the underhive for relics

[rose thorn]

Omg I wish they didn’t put him in a coma before the election

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

Thry would ahve had SO MUCH free material

[arctic talon]

What a cool mini tbh

[rose thorn]

He fucking rocks

[daring creek]

Are we talking about arbitrators

[arctic talon]

Nah

[rose thorn]

Necromunda

[strong bison]

that

[daring creek]

Society

[arctic talon]

The palanite enforcers

[strong bison]

and uzi auto gun

[daring creek]

Interesting

What are they

[dapper gyro]

MAC10, a real gangster weapon.

[arctic talon]

They’re the enforcers of palanite hive in necromunda

[strong bison]

Their the city's personal cops

[daring creek]

Oh cool

[arctic talon]

And Lord Helmwar’s personal jackboots

lol

Well

House Helmwar’s rather

They’re basically a gang

[strong bison]

Arbiters are kinda like the FBI while Enforcers are your local police station

[arctic talon]

But under a noble house directly and also enforcers

[lament shoal]

"We're gonna build more manufactorums, and make the genestealers pay for them."

[storm jungle]

Worst part, Munda literally has the ash wall to keep out the genestealers 😩

[rose thorn]

AHAHAHAHSAHAHAH

[strong bison]

Then blow up the genestealers with a nuke

[rose thorn]

I THOGUHT THIS WAS REAL FOR LIKE 5 SECONDS

[storm jungle]

They are still around so that didnt work lol

[storm jungle]

the best part is like

the official announcement screens

are so fucking unhinged

that it stops being satire

[arctic talon]

This is Lord Helmawr at his prettiest

[storm jungle]

lmao

[arctic talon]

btw