40k-lore-chat

[winter pine]

Seems kind of lose / lose with him

[opaque coyote]

LORGAR probably wouldn't.

I mean, he was a dick, but also like

The Emperor didn't help

At all

Like if I put it in terms

Imagine if you show your Dad a painting.

You worked hours on it. It's beautiful and glistening

Your dad is mad because you didn't paint it fast enough

Also it has religious imagery and he hates that

So then he has one of your brothers smash the painting and burn it

[winter pine]

Emperor's problem with Lorgar was less him and more not chopping the head off Kor Phaeron and Erebus

[opaque coyote]

Also that

Especially Erebus

Lorgar might be a question mark tbh

[winter pine]

I'm glad to see people appreciate a villain who was evil purely because he's an unrepentant bastard like Erebus

We got too many "well maybe he's got a point" antagonists, Erebus is purely evil for the love of the game

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, the problem I have with Erebus is that he just doesn't have enough to make him enjoyable to hate for me.

He kinda just feels like a plot device

[raven stone]

We do need SOME “evil by nature” villains in any media.

[opaque coyote]

Like evil by nature villains are fun due to them loving one thing...

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-presentation-cool-dramatic-behold-gif-4559759

(Ignore how I put one of the most non-"evil by nature" villains here)

[valid needle]

Nah he would have

[opaque coyote]

But you get the point

[winter pine]

I forget the exact book or short story but Erebus admitted he started with literal serial killer stuff by pulling the legs off scorpions

[raven stone]

Also I always find it funny how those “maybe Chaos has a point” people are only doing it because they compare Chaos against Imperium of Mankind.
Like…surely suffering under a fascist regime is still better than losing your sanity as well as the ability to love and care!?

[valid needle]

Angron would have always turned, simply for the fact him and his friends were enslaved and he was subjected to the nails on an imperial world under the emperors control. Nothing big e could do would make up for that.

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, love is dependent on the type of God

Slaanesh and Nurgle, nah you wouldn't lose that part

Khorne and Tzeentch, most definitely

[opaque coyote]

It technically wasn't under his control

Until he arrived

[valid needle]

But it was under compliance

[opaque coyote]

I don't think that's the case? I think it was put under compliance after Angron was sucked up

[winter pine]

I thought Nuceria's compliance was right when The Emperor arrived

iirc he negotiated with The High Riders

[opaque coyote]

Ah

I mean if the Emperor saved his friends and bombed the planet instead

That would've gotten him under Angron's good graces

[valid needle]

I must be wrong then I thought it was under compliance before the emperor found out he was there

[winter pine]

Big E Money is exactly the same as the Highriders, it wouldn't have worked for Angron

[opaque coyote]

Nah separate until found.

It was technically under Gulliman's empire though

Although it was on the fringes

Like the type of planet that would be on the bottom of the list

Type of shit

[winter pine]

Very telling that out of all the primarch planets, even the Death Guard have nicer things to say about Barbarus than anyone does about Nuceria

[valid needle]

Luv me toxic wasteland

[opaque coyote]

For fucks sake, the blood angels and iron hands have better things to say

[raven stone]

Nuceria sucks balls, period.
Both in universe and the narrative for it lol.
It’s just so…sad

[opaque coyote]

And their planets are objectively awful

Awful shitholes

Like "the only thing that can be worse is Catachan"

I personally think if Angron wasn't nailed. He would've been similar to Khan in his stance

That being

"The Imperium sucks ass, but I am not siding with the literal daemons."

[raven stone]

Or Corax for that matter

[opaque coyote]

I can easily imagine him just fucking off after the battle

[raven stone]

Corax also recognises the paradox that he is a resistance fighter…who joined a dictatorial Emperor.

[opaque coyote]

Like he doesn't even disappear due to going after some artifact or something

I think Angron would've just straight up left

[raven stone]

Corax, Khan and NoNails!Angron could have hit it off on their own thing.

…

[opaque coyote]

And did what Guilliman wishes he could fucking do

[raven stone]

Actually imagine a Three way split

[opaque coyote]

...

That would've made for an interesting scenario ngl

[winter pine]

I'm kind of partial to the theory Khan just faked being lost in the webway and is AWOL somewhere

[opaque coyote]

I would call each side

"Traitors"

"Renegades"

"Loyalists"

[winter pine]

Knew the whole dream was dead after the Siege and went off to do his own thing

[raven stone]

Emperor loyalists
Chaos Traitors
And Khan/Corax/NoNails!Angron just saying “fuck you both”

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that Khan made his own faction somewhere in the Dark City

Commoragh

[opaque coyote]

Now that's something I wanna see

[winter pine]

Chilling in some pleasure palace in The Dark City with a harem of Drukhari babes? yeah I could see it

[opaque coyote]

Less that more

One of the Kabals trying to murder Vect

[raven stone]

Alpharius would have the time of his life just choosing which boat to jump on lol.

[opaque coyote]

Alpharius would probably still die the same way.

[winter pine]

Seems like he'd know the Emperor's dream was dead by the end of the siege

[opaque coyote]

He's lime

"Uh Uhhh"

Alpha Legion is cool

[winter pine]

Alpharius thinking he's the smartest mf to ever live would definitely get him killed in the same way

[opaque coyote]

I just wish that ironically enough, there was slightly less secrecy

[winter pine]

Many such cases in real life

[opaque coyote]

Or complicated bullshit

Although I have had the entertaining idea of an alpha Legionnare having a complicated plan

Only to not like it, or it not working, and be like

"Fuck it, let's start shooting"

[winter pine]

I liked Mike Brook's Harrowmaster leaning on that

[opaque coyote]

And we're never told what the original unfinished plan was before they start...

Improvising

[raven stone]

You don’t even need to do that loop.
An Alpha Legionnaire would know their legion’s reputation.
So, by his calculation, the last thing the enemy would expect him to do, is…just start shooting.

[winter pine]

Solomon being like "guys all the people who know Alpharius' plan are either dead or MIA, let's do our own thing"

[raven stone]

Probably wasn’t a way to narrate this clearly (even though they should), but I genuinely just think the legion quietly fractured itself between loyalists and traitors at heart, which became heinously complicated because of the whole “pretending to be on the other side” thing.

[opaque coyote]

insert that scene of the alpha legionnares all groaning after somebody says their iconic phrase

[winter pine]

sold me on Mike Brooks as a BL author tbqh

Need to sit down and read his Ork books sometime

[raven stone]

But oddly enough we will never tire of Word Bearers being Sunday morning cartoon evil bastards

Which…TBF, it’s more a behaviour and less a meme.

[winter pine]

There is something fun about Word Bearers just being unrepentantly evil lmao

[opaque coyote]

Tbf part of it is like

Imagine you finally get to see the inner workings of the universe

...

And then it turns out that heaven doesn't exist

There is only hell

There are two responses

A) Fight anyways. Rage against the dying of the light and all that

B) "fuck it, being a Daemon sounds fun"

Word Bearers chose B

[winter pine]

surely the eclessiarchy wouldn't like to me about the emperor when I die right

right???

[gleaming patrol]

What’s the status on grey knight and black Templar?

[surreal nest]

Whats the status?

[gleaming patrol]

Last heard community shit on them because they want cripple recovered emperor

[surreal nest]

That community in question probably has choice words on femcustodes too, I wouldn't take outrage farmers seriously

[gleaming patrol]

I didn’t pick on femcustodus topic

So I won’t know what’s their update

I’m interest what happen to Grey and Templar

[surreal nest]

I genuinely dont know what you're asking so hopefully someone else takes up the mantle

[gleaming patrol]

What I means like I remember last time community memeing grey knight storm inside emperor palace and up against custodus

Because they want put emperor who got revived back to the throne

[unique bronze]

Greyknights vs the Custodes you mean?

Something about recent reveal what the Terminus Decree was, hence the whole meme about Grey Knights storming the golden throne

I liked it better when it was an actual unknown order

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think they should've made it a series of contingencies

[unique bronze]

That too mayhaps

Tho I liked the theory before that it was an order to just off the Emperor to force him to reincarnate to be a more fully abled being

rather than a vegetable on the throne etc

But it was only supposed to be a last ditch effort

[cinder pivot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LsRDQzIareg

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/b2cZUHXsTu4?si=amIKlBCoqFDz-r7v

✍🏻 🔥

[unique bronze]

Eyo

[jade holly]

Borderlands is cooking

They showed off the new vault hunter today

[celest dome]

What is it's theme ?

Hunter or something like that?

[jade holly]

Gambler

He was a dealerbot in a casino

[celest dome]

So crit fishing or money to damage things

[crystal forum]

are we going to ignore how they handled 3

[nocturne crest]

Yes, sadly. BL4 is currently pretty popular until BL6 comes out

[crystal forum]

oh i didn't even realize it was out yet

i completely dissociated from the series when 3 came out

borderlands is just one of those franchises that only has 1 masterpiece that the entire brand relies on

[nocturne crest]

I think it's been out a few weeks now, because they had the CEO come out and say BL4 can't be ran on poor people's PC or something like that.

[celest dome]

BL3 had good enough gameplay

The writing/VA wasn't great

[crystal forum]

it's just very forgettable

[celest dome]

But I hardly play those game for it anyway

Bl2 is well remembered for, but I honestly found the bad guy from it just as annoying to listen to

[crystal forum]

2's gameplay is also simply the best

it's an incredibly good game

[celest dome]

Eh, depend, the only thing for 4 (don't have it yet) that I somewhat dislike is Harlowe.
Usually there are 2 or even 3 characters that I don't mesh with, Bl3 had every character pique my interest

Honestly was most interested in Harlowe when we had her visual, but did not know anything

And each subsequent reveal just led to me not being as interested in her

[green loom]

I like Levaine

[sacred bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0buHU6ej7bY

how i'm starting my morning

[storm jungle]

"season 1"

this entire thing SUCKED

[sacred bluff]

DON'T SAY THAT

[storm jungle]

Im sorry but it was literally just nothing

just princeps arguing then getting blown up

😩

[sacred bluff]

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

He hasn't watched it yet

[proven needle]

Yeah, SM on the front there is weird, they play no role 😆

[storm jungle]

Tbh I respect the clickbait game

[valid needle]

Dilara is correct show was dogshit

“Kill lupercal” didn’t even see the twat

You do get a couple space marines fighting scenes though but that’s like the only good parts

[storm jungle]

Tbh the titan stuff is good but like-

the problem with titan-stuff in 40k is its the same thing EVERY time

argue/wrestle with machine spirit

argue with other princeps

someone gets blown the fuck up

yapyap brave last words

etc etc

[valid needle]

Slow turn to target for 20 minutes

[storm jungle]

YEP.

its why I just never bother with them in novels

I get it, troubles and issues operating one is what makes it exciting but god

[queen laurel]

it's less interesting when a titan being operated is described exactly as an office skit

[sacred bluff]

so far it's further than mortis

because all the warp dilation

so these must be the titans left fighting after that book

[storm jungle]

yeah its when the planet is going slowly into the Warp

[rose thorn]

It’s a horus heresy show that’s a pun on kill bill

How would it not suck

[sacred bluff]

my princeps

engine death 😔

[storm jungle]

🫡

[spring cairn]

kill bill is awesome tho

[rose thorn]

And Quentin tarantino is the only person who could make kill bill lol

[spring cairn]

my goat

[sacred bluff]

zac snyder...

[spring cairn]

quentin i love u as much as you love feet

[rocky gale]

Hasn't directed a good movie since Owls of Ga'Hoole

[celest dome]

Those were some good books

[remote wadi]

Epic

[rose thorn]

THE DEER ARE HERE

[jade holly]

It’s really good narratively too, at least compared to 3

[daring creek]

Do you think

The Emperor

has Labubus'

[spring cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317192655066759330/1416475290120618155/rapidsave.com_8g5pwgg5lyof1.gif

[daring creek]

Hey now I was just asking a question.

Why do people always need to get so aggressive when I ask simple things?

Now, does he have Labubus' or no?

He must have Labubus'

[median star]

blue

you know what else is blue

[daring creek]

walters whites crystal meth

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/cobson-edit-gif-17725429570181052605

[dapper gyro]

I wonder what "season 2" is about. Considering the series shows that Titans are completely impractical, more of a propaganda platform than a weapon platform.

[storm jungle]

there isnt a season 2

it was just 3 episodes

[rocky gale]

Season 2 will be Kill Abaddon

[valid needle]

Spoiler alert, it’s a trap like season one.

And Abbadon isn’t even in the episode.

Just like season one’s twist.

[rocky gale]

Na, they'll actually kill him

It will have Major ramifications for 40k lore

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zca2thl2/sunday-preview-enter-the-spitewood-in-warhammer-underworlds/

It's here

https://tenor.com/view/httyd-gif-9679526571054796134

[rose thorn]

I KNOW

ALSO

ZARBAG HAS A NEW SYMBOL

WARBANDS ARE GETTING CHANGESSSS

THEY ARE COOKED

[rose thorn]

My guess is skinnerkin is gonna get a rework too soon

So that’s hype

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/SErsXR-VAB0?si=97ojTrGv5Z6_HGCV

[queen laurel]

So far I like what I see

[languid meadow]

the matched animations look so good

[queen laurel]

yep

[languid meadow]

also electro priests

[queen laurel]

the orks just bringing out three gorkonauts

[languid meadow]

my only issue is the scale for the bigger units feel weird but i understand it's for gameplay reasons

like the monolith feels really small

[queen laurel]

i've gotten used to RTS size syndrome

[spring cairn]

no guard, no tau, why live

[languid meadow]

A lot of the units look nice it's just the monolith to me

[queen laurel]

There's just really not a lot of ways of making the size feel natural when it's an RTS

[languid meadow]

honestly Tau, Eldar, and Guard are basically guaranteed to show up imo

[spring cairn]

at least necrons are cool ig

[arctic talon]

Guard are being worked on

[remote wadi]

They better let me play tau

[arctic talon]

And are either gona be the first dlc

[queen laurel]

Guard i gonna be the first new faction

[spring cairn]

yeah dlc

[arctic talon]

Or a 5th faction

Prolly dlc

[languid meadow]

oh shit so they made it so every melee unit has matched animations

[queen laurel]

3 imperium 2 xenos chaos fans eat some dirt

[spring cairn]

we'll see how much they charge

and what they include

in said dlc

[remote wadi]

As a tau main it's ok

[spring cairn]

i just wanan hear the tau music

one more time

[remote wadi]

We are used to be in the shadow of space marines

[spring cairn]

before i expire

[languid meadow]

yeah oh ok so now we have more than just sync kills

[remote wadi]

It makes it even greater good when we nuke you on the tabletop

[languid meadow]

melee itself has their own animations between units

[queen laurel]

I'm just hoping that King art can find a way to reduce the price by even just a little

GW is ruthless

[spring cairn]

i'm out there saying this like I haven't bought every tww dlc but hey

fantasy is a whole otha thing

[languid meadow]

Also Necrons are in this game via pity 😭

[queen laurel]

Wait how

[remote wadi]

Necrons are hard to explore in games

[languid meadow]

"we promised them in 3 and they didn't play a big role in the previous games"

[remote wadi]

They are god lvl

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah they are

[spring cairn]

necrons got the pity fuck

[queen laurel]

There's an easy fix that do the dawn of war thing Ignore it for a game mechanics

[languid meadow]

I dont care since we beat the eldar to a DoW game

L bozo

[spring cairn]

would've been bleak without them

2 imperium faction and orks

[remote wadi]

The campaign of the game is canon to the lore

[queen laurel]

i mean they also got mechanicus and necrons

[remote wadi]

You can't just make necrons eat dirt

[spring cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhXCQFxGqMM&list=RDmhXCQFxGqMM&start_radio=1

[queen laurel]

If Dawn War One was lore accurate gameplay the warrior just shooting would be enough to destroy an entire squad as they all disintegrate

[spring cairn]

love taus but the guard still has the best theme

i hope they pay some kind of homage to it whenever they add them in

[queen laurel]

So for the sake of gameplay just make them work with mechanics and somehow make the guy survive anti material gun

[remote wadi]

Fair

[languid meadow]

every time guard are shown in these previews I keep seeing people spout out how "GW changed lasgun lore recently to this" and im still so confused where they get that

like no?

when

show me

[spring cairn]

what changed ?

[queen laurel]

lasguns has been yellow plenty of times

[remote wadi]

They confusing darktide changes

For lore

[queen laurel]

Apparently the lasgun bolt colors

People are confusing them being yellow

[spring cairn]

yeah it's red

[languid meadow]

no no they're saying them shooting like bullets and being yellow is now the standard which is not the case

they can just be diff colours

idk

fuck

I HATE 40K FANS

[spring cairn]

it's inconsistent

because gw

[languid meadow]

NO ONE READS

[remote wadi]

40k is inconsistent tho

[spring cairn]

even in books they can't settle on one depiction

[remote wadi]

Just to understand the big E I Lost my mind and felt to tzeentch

[languid meadow]

I assume it's like star wars with different systems/elements being used

like iirc there's purple las bolts

[remote wadi]

Honestly I think las colors are faction reliant

But Idk enought

[languid meadow]

it's all depends on the forge world that makes them

idk it's just people complaining and saying that "this is a new change" that piss me off

they're yellow in older DoWs as well

also BLUE

[queen laurel]

But the infantry carried red ones right

[spring cairn]

they fire red beams in the definitive edition

[languid meadow]

yeah the standard troopers had red

chimeras had yellow

I think some sentinels had blue?

I could be wrong on that one

[spring cairn]

i want to die

i don't see why they can't have different colours

[queen laurel]

sentinels had red i think

Yeah it's a laser

[spring cairn]

but i don't see why they should have different colours either

[queen laurel]

Laser come in different colors

[languid meadow]

also the radium shots from the skitarii in the trailer look so good

[spring cairn]

in artwork it's either red or yellow most of the time, i'm fine with that

[languid meadow]

their pale teal looks great

[spring cairn]

but i'll never, never ever

allow bolts

we beam in this house

[dapper gyro]

Lasgun beam is said to have different colours depending on the environment as well.

[spring cairn]

no bolts allowed

get ur bolty ass back to sw

[storm jungle]

its always been majorily red

its just inconsistency

also that warcom post was basically making a fake narrative

[remote wadi]

I'm a Psyker so I warp energy beam

[dapper gyro]

Then again, there is a lasgun suppressor to remove the visible beam, which shouldn't be visible in the 1st place...

[languid meadow]

Bro is getting mulched by death magic😭

[spring cairn]

if it wasn't visible it wouldn't be as cool

[languid meadow]

the radium looks so good

[storm jungle]

yeah this isnt Dune

[spring cairn]

that's what i always blamed it on but it wouldn't be far fetched to explain it cuz the galaxy big and all that

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

also like warcom is consistenly wrong on stuff

since they just make "le funny lore posts" every time

[queen laurel]

Bro what situation requires orks to do this

[languid meadow]

they're also visible and invisible in DUNE as well

[remote wadi]

The situation of the waaaaaaaa

Obviously

[dapper gyro]

They do it because they can. Next.

[storm jungle]

DEI Dune

[queen laurel]

That is true but they could have just like I don't know throw it in another person they must be really excited to fight this one position if they are pulling in three of them

[languid meadow]

lychguard......

I love this lineup

so much

[storm jungle]

[remote wadi]

True

[spring cairn]

once again, red or yellow or pink idc

just no bolts please

[queen laurel]

So like you just wanted to be a long laser until it hits a point and disappears?

Not like Star Wars

[spring cairn]

yeah a beam

[languid meadow]

yea

[queen laurel]

gotcha gotcha

[spring cairn]

just like in hit game Warhammer 40k : Darktide

[languid meadow]

like how DoW depicts it but I think las pistols should be bolts

[spring cairn]

kill him

[languid meadow]

I think it's a perspective thing making it look small idk because the doom stalker is massive in other shots

idk we'll see

not out yet so

[spring cairn]

i hope we get army painter back

[median star]

so do any nightlords not ever get tired of each other w the smells from having rotten heads and skins draped over each othr

[arctic talon]

No

[daring creek]

That's called man smell

[dire loom]

This is some really good wallpaper worthy level stuff.

[storm jungle]

Im a big collector of official art so lol

[dire loom]

Nice

[mint tundra]

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[late verge]

Could the emperor survive getting thrown into a black hole?

[celest dome]

no

No reason to think he would

[outer wave]

Nah, he'd turn the black hole into the Golden Hole

[late verge]

nice try heretic

[celest dome]

Bruh, he barely survived a duel with one of his gyny pigs

[storm jungle]

LOL

[misty vector]

Wonder how close horus came to the same level of power as the emperor

[languid meadow]

Oh I haven't even check up on VTMB2 in a bit

they reversed their decision to lock Lasombra and Toreador behind special editions

they're with the base game

https://youtu.be/eYlYzXLN0XU?si=cUWN9zhbfD5gXb_y

[limpid granite]

id be thoroughly surprised if it isnt just a walking sim with light immersive sim elements

[languid meadow]

have you played VTMB1

[limpid granite]

no

https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812

[vagrant fox]

4/10 gameplay 4/10 graphics best game i ever played

[storm jungle]

one upside

this game is gonna flop so hard everyone is just gonna download the Unofficial Patch and play VTMB1 instead

[languid meadow]

the first game is dogshit and that's charming

I hope the second is the same

[storm jungle]

its really not

[languid meadow]

the entire second half of the game is ass

[storm jungle]

its not that bad

and calling it "dogshit" is a bit overblowing it lmao

fuckers

[languid meadow]

YOU WILL FIGHT THE CHINESE HYDRA

[vagrant fox]

It gets rough when you get to the sewers but before that it's great

Even then it's mostly fine imho

[storm jungle]

theres a reason the patch added an option to ENTIRELY skip the sewers

[vagrant fox]

Fuckin Activision

[storm jungle]

Yeah they literally butchered Troika lol

they went bankrupt like the few months the game was out

its genuinely terrible ngl

and deciding to release it on the same period as HALF-LIFE 2

[vagrant fox]

Watching Tim Cains videos they arguably had some internal issues as well but I'm still putting 99% of the blame on Activision because I'll never get another Arcanum

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was largely their fault because you can REALLY notice how rushed the game is once you go past the middle-point

[languid meadow]

reminds me of another game

DS1

[storm jungle]

no

[vagrant fox]

Just shit it out and die bozos

[languid meadow]

past anor londo it's mid lets be so fucking real

I LOVE the game

but after OnS

eugh

[vagrant fox]

At least we got VTM Redemption and Bloodlines 1 in the end

[languid meadow]

the good parts are good but near the end it's just combat after combat

tiring really

but the game is still fun

[vagrant fox]

DS1 was a bit rough but at least they were allowed to finish the game to a playable state

You couldn't really play Bloodlines at launch

[storm jungle]

tbh its literally unplayable

considering the game was essentially sabotaged

[vagrant fox]

You needed fanpatches from the get go didn't you
I think Boyarsky was really despondent about the game and thought everyone hated it for a long time

[storm jungle]

Yeah he only noticed its popularity once the main Patch mod fixed it

it wasnt even games like nowadays where its just a buggy mess, it was basically missing essential stuff that just meant you couldnt even play the game lol

[arctic talon]

Do you think the maul has a copy of the book of lorgar they use for planting evidence

[languid meadow]

it still happens today be it rarely due to how expensive games have gotten but holy shit during that short time from 2000 to 2010 so many games were just actually unfinished

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195404877688602624/1421980170415509524/IMG_2199.jpg?ex=68db01bb&is=68d9b03b&hm=273f7d372d35bb6f31b39d6a23548276573007d923854fde594fd0f61af55f01&

The hive tyrant is reverse gripping its sword

lol

[hallow saddle]

lol

[vagrant fox]

Perhaps a goodiebag of evidence to plant when he needs to write a report

[storm jungle]

I love how some of the "model viewer" in these is just pictures lol

[spring cairn]

that's actually tragic

I can't remember the last game with a good model viewer

they don't make dem like dey used to

[storm jungle]

Too true 😔

[late verge]

isnt that like physically atached to it

[arctic talon]

Funnily enough no

Not for hive tyrants

Their swords can be dropped

[opaque coyote]

Can you even use Tyranid swords

Well

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

Without having your arm melt off or something

[arctic talon]

They’re living beings

Well

You could bash people with them

But they wouldn’t generate the field

[opaque coyote]

They can't like

Lobotmize the sword

Have it generate all the time

Oh right nids don't have brains

Well

Most of them

It does sound like a sick idea though

Would be considered tech Heresy but I can definitely imagine some

[arctic talon]

The deathwatch have one

Sorta

But it’s just the claw of a

Carnifex

[opaque coyote]

Xenobiologist Magos after drinking yet another can of Green Taurox (very healthy)

Deciding to try and forcefully use a mixture of technology and flesh to try and force it to activate the field

[sour hornet]

I find it insanely funny 99% of Nurgles champions are named somthing like "Shitass Putridrectum"

and their special power is basically just ripping ass so heinously foul the other guy fucking dies

[lament shoal]

He's getting fucking jumped

[sour hornet]

^ "come outside, I promise we won't jump you"

[storm jungle]

bro is volkacooked

[storm jungle]

40k is a VERY serious setting

[lament shoal]

Death by one thousand servitors

[lament shoal]

Case in point lmfao

[outer wave]

Assscratcher Pyruria

[lament shoal]

Stinkbile Poopenfarten

[outer wave]

Poo'n'Shi'tt'in

Speaking of Nurgle, know what I never hear about anymore? Spoilpox Scriveners, whether in discussions on lore or otherwise

I swear they were of topic in 8th edition and then they just never ever came up again

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Herald_of_Nurgle#Spoilpox_Scriveners Like the fellas are kinda cool

[storm jungle]

Tbh its not like they are retconned, GW are just hacks and cant let the coolboys get a turn 😔

[outer wave]

😔

We need more big mouth Plaguebearers in my 40k media.....

[opaque coyote]

Just look at the Deldar Weapon names

"Agonsier"

"Terrorfex"

"Void Lance'

[arctic talon]

You forgot the liquifier

I’ll give you one guess

What it does

[opaque coyote]

"Klaive" and it's smaller counterpart "Demi klaive"

(what the fuck is a klaive? Knife + Glaive??)

[arctic talon]

It’s a big ass sword

Incubi exclusively use them

And some archons

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/f5/Incubi_Warrior.png/revision/latest?cb=20141020190502

This thing is a klaive

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think my favorite is Ossefactor

Literally just disfigures your bones

[plush mason]

so what is the giant handle on the bottem for?

[arctic talon]

It’s for when they want to use it as a more traditional sword

They have numerous klaive wielding techniques

[plush mason]

that thing looks like it would be a bitch to use like that

[arctic talon]

The art makes it look way worse

Then most of them

[tough haven]

Its supposed to be a very versatile weapon

[arctic talon]

It’s not that bad

In most depictions

In that one it looks really fucking weird

Ultimately incubi dedicate their lives to learning how to use the dang things

So any weirdness is likely present for religious or tradition reasons

[opaque coyote]

"Why are you using it like a sword?"

"...because it is?"

"Heh... HEY LOOK THIS FUCKING VAT BORN IS USING IT LIKE A SWORD LET'S FUCKING TURN HIM INTO A SKIN COUCH!"

"IT'S PERFECTLY VIABLEEAAHHHH-"

[arctic talon]

You can see a few different wielding techniques

In the squad

Ultimately incubi are fucking weirdos lol

[plush mason]

the one in the middle has one that looks kinda like a bat'leth

[arctic talon]

They’re khaine worshipping dark eldar who have this whole system and religion

Kinda yeah

There’s also demi kalives which are shorter kalives

[plush mason]

they also dont betray their employers iirc, insanely weird for the dark eldar

[arctic talon]

Yep

They’re honorable

Not to say they won’t throw sand in your eyes in a fight

But they won’t betray or backstab you if they’ve agreed to it

[plush mason]

which is why the elites use them as bodyguards

[arctic talon]

Tbh wtf do they even do with all their money lol

Incubi live a pretty tame life in terms of hedonism

For drukhari

They’re more concerned with training often lol

[nocturne crest]

Imagine if the creators of Space King tried to sell their own game.

[opaque coyote]

"We can't stab them yet."

"Why not?"

"We did the most sacred agreement in Khaine's name... The pinky promise."

[green loom]

It's legally distinct

So like

Nothing would happen

It'd probably suck doodoo ass but it's not like quality matters

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I have thought of attempting to make a 40k themed game but

Legally distinct

"No these aren't sisters of battle these are... Siblings of War!"

[dapper gyro]

I don't know that you are that rich, Laati.

[opaque coyote]

sweating in front of GW's lawyer team

[opaque coyote]

Like it kinda sucks since I thought of maybe getting into game development as a hobby or just trying it out

Maybe make fan games

But then I realize

"Oh GW will become Night Lords if I ever make a 40k fan game"

[unique bronze]

get visited by the Ordo Lawsuiticus

[dapper gyro]

They can't just sue anyone with soldier fighting using power armour.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but I wonder like

[nocturne crest]

Off to the plastic mines with you.

[opaque coyote]

How close I can get

Like

Without being sued

[unique bronze]

I think its fine if its 40k inspired, but just not use any of the names or something

[dapper gyro]

You can't know if you don't try!

[unique bronze]

Or that

[opaque coyote]

I mean would T'au be considered under copyright. They're named after a Greek symbol

Or would it be the designs?

[dapper gyro]

I will contribute to your GoFundMe when you need money for lawyers against GW.

[nocturne crest]

GW declares they own Greece

[dapper gyro]

Warframe also has a Tau faction.

[unique bronze]

isnt the word tau like under public domain anyway

[dapper gyro]

As long as it is Tau and no T'au, it is good to go.

[unique bronze]

i dont think anybody can copyright or trademark the greek alphabet

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but wonder like

Would the designs be copyrighted?

Like, theoretically, if I drew a space marine

[dapper gyro]

Space Elf is ok, but Eldar is not.

[opaque coyote]

But with no chapter symbols

Would that be considered legally distinct

[nocturne crest]

Depends on the design of the armour.

[opaque coyote]

Like it's the exact same look and design, just a different name

[dapper gyro]

That won't hold.

[nocturne crest]

I don't think that is district enough.

[dapper gyro]

"the exact same look and design" is kind of the definition of copy...

[nocturne crest]

Exactly. Probably the same issue with weapons as well.

Or vehicles as well.

If you took a land raider, replaced the treads with screws and added a turret on top, that is probably distinct enough.

*different enough?

[dapper gyro]

It wouldn't.

[nocturne crest]

It's just a backwards ww1 tank.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I just wonder how much you can "copy" and how much you can't

Copyright is a landmine

[crystal forum]

this is cannon

votaan transformers

[arctic talon]

Is it?

What’s it called lol

[crystal forum]

white dwarf cannon

[arctic talon]

Was it under the showcase portion

[crystal forum]

sagitaur walker

[arctic talon]

Or the other one

[unique bronze]

I thought that was a human in there

[crystal forum]

idk it's on the lexi

[arctic talon]

Neat

Guess it’s canon

[crystal forum]

that's because it's literally an invictus warsuit with a sagitaur glue to it

[arctic talon]

Lexi puts stuff that’s in the proper like

In universe showcase section lol

Not just the “cool hobbyist stuff” section

[dapper gyro]

Yeah, but it has design pattern plating to make it more "original". You can't just recycle them into your creation.

[crystal forum]

how does the model not fall backwards is my question

[unique bronze]

maybe its pinned down by where the feet is

i think some models do that right

[celest cedar]

https://youtu.be/Hcl6F5brCAU

[nocturne crest]

Actually, weird question, but could a chaos space marine life forever through cloning and eating their former body?

[crystal forum]

who starts a conversation like that

[nocturne crest]

I do, after reading about how Inducti's worked.

[crystal forum]

lol

space marines already technically live forever

[unique bronze]

should read about how the Iron Warriors make new astartes

[nocturne crest]

That and flash indoctrination.

[nocturne crest]

Good point.

[crystal forum]

who knows with inductii though

their process is so rushed they might be missing some organs or something

[nocturne crest]

So Diet Marines.

[opaque coyote]

SMs usually live a long time

CSMs are basically immortal

Not invincible though

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[unique bronze]

Great show

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside, warp bullshit means that there are CSMs that are veterans of the Horus Heresy

Of course, it's still very easy to die.

Cause

Chaos

But you're definitely not dying by old age

[dapper gyro]

Also because they are lost for a thousand year in real time doesn't mean they spent a thousand year in the warp.

Time dilation in 40K happens mostly between the dimensions.

Only a small number of CSM actually spent almost the amount of time that their age suggest.

[arctic talon]

weighted base is my bet

was mandatory for some minis back in the day

LOL

[cyan merlin]

I thought dead chaos marines just reformed in the warp

Which is why it’s so hard to just
Keep them dead
You have to banish them from real space

[lament shoal]

Only champions typically get resurrected

If you're just an average chaos marine the chaos gods don't care, you're just fodder

[lament shoal]

That's daemons

[cyan merlin]

In which case
Yeah how do they get more chaos marines? Is that what the cults are for?

[arctic talon]

Recruitment, cultists, kidnapping children, ect.

Traitors

[lament shoal]

It can happen through a large variety of means

[cyan merlin]

Can’t help but feel like chaos marines training would be
To put it nicely
Sub-par

[arctic talon]

It varies

Wildly

[cyan merlin]

Guess chaos blessings would balance things out regardless

[lament shoal]

Right now the only thing that can perma kill daemons is the sword of the emperor, which is wielded by guilliman

[cyan merlin]

Is that any daemon or just important ones?

[arctic talon]

Any

Daemons can be perma killed very difficulty

Via obliteration of essence

The emperors sword just does that easily

[cyan merlin]

So how does one obliterate essence without the sword?

[arctic talon]

Psykers can do it with preparation and the true name

And some other factions weird artifacts

The eldar have a few melee weapons that can do it

[cyan merlin]

True name being
Really hard to get, if I remember correctly

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It’s not always necessary

But it makes it a less difficult process

By a huge amount

[cyan merlin]

So do grey knights have any stories pertaining to successfully killing a powerful daemon?

Seems like
A really easy way to show off how strong they are

[arctic talon]

Yes

one or two

but the Daemons were invented for the like

short stories lol

[cyan merlin]

Because why should the grey knights get to do something important
They look so cool and yet the stories are so lame

[cyan merlin]

How often do modern space marines turn traitor?

[arctic talon]

Uhhh

Not super often

but individual traitors are

somewhat common

[cyan merlin]

Yeah the space marine games make it seem like this is a persistent problem

[wind canyon]

There's Dragan from the Lords of Silence book as an example of an individual one in the modern era. Never stated what chapter he was from originally before turning plague marine

[cyan merlin]

What’s that book about? Finished my first 40k book a few days ago and still checking on what to read next

[arctic talon]

It’s about a death guard warband

It’s a very good book

[wind canyon]

^

[cyan merlin]

I’ll have to keep that in mind when I get bored of the imperial guard

[lament shoal]

You should read Ciaphas Cain next chance you get

[cyan merlin]

My only real limiting factor is if or not I can find a physical copy

Ideally not for $90
Thanks GW

[lament shoal]

The book isn't that old, they still sell physical copies at stores

[arctic talon]

Well it’s not GW selling it for 90$

Lol

They just don’t print books forever aside from rule books

[lament shoal]

I got mine at an official store and it was only $25

[cyan merlin]

Ehhhh… I have to drive two hours to the nearest book store that would have it…

It’s fine, need to get a bunch of books anyway
Not just 40k, need halo books too

[opaque coyote]

Varies wildly but generally the training is... intensive

I wouldn't say good

But definitely very intensive

Basically it's usually harder than even the average SM training

Also Chaos

Gear though, unless if you're Black Legion or you're giving the Dark Mechanicus something that Slaanesh would be proud of, is a huge issue

Apparently being near to the screaming gateway to Hell doesn't do well for supplies

[cyan merlin]

So how do they get new gear? Off loyalists or whatever they can piece together on their own?

[unique bronze]

I guess they got warp forged weapons as well right

[plush mason]

that and they steal it off their own dead

[cyan merlin]

Feel like that would be less effective for plaguemarines

Their armor is always in pretty terrible condition

[unique bronze]

dont their gear mutate with them

thanks to grandpapa's magic fingies

[sacred ginkgo]

Everything exposed to the warp mutates

They don't spend 2 months adding spikes to every world they conquer, it just happens

[cyan merlin]

Allegedly there’s a way to cleanse warp and chaos corruption from items

[unique bronze]

why would you wanna cleanse it tho if youre a chaos marine

[lofty mason]

If this was canon, what would the Imperium look like?

[cyan merlin]

Probably a lot better than the state it’s in now

Wasn’t the imperium like
About to win the entire galaxy before Horus decided to be a capital B 🅱️itch

[opaque coyote]

Stealing and raiding

As for Plague Marines. Their armor is kinda their skin now

[celest dome]

The Grand Crusade wasn't about to wipe out the Orks, Eldars and Necron

[cyan merlin]

Yeah but if the Horus heresy hadn’t happened the imperium wouldn’t be clusterfuck that it is now

Could actually, effectively fight back
Rather than… Whatever the hell they’re doing now

[cyan merlin]

Would be funny if they needed to skin corpses and shove it on the new plaguemarines

[young pecan]

Flailing?

I think that's a good word for it

[cyan merlin]

Yeah that sounds right

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it literally just happens

[celest dome]

The Imperium would be much better of, Chaos would be much weaker and dealable with

[opaque coyote]

Even to non plague marines

You can literally just sleep

[celest dome]

But the standard of living would still be abysmal

[opaque coyote]

Wake up

Suddenly your armor is your skin now

Fuck you

At least it mutates and upgrades itself

But still

[cyan merlin]

Dreadnoughts experience the same thing, kinda

[opaque coyote]

Sorta but hey at least they spend most of their time sleeping

[cyan merlin]

Worse than it is now?!

[opaque coyote]

Btw CSM dreadnoughts are considered a fate worse than death lmao

Because you don't get the luxury of sleeping

Also daemons constantly gnaw at your mind

So you're always gonna be driven insane

[cyan merlin]

Killing CSMs is considered mercy even outside the cruelty of the world
Yeesh

[opaque coyote]

Depends

Chaos is like Capitalism. It dangles the idea of climbing the ladder

Only to realize that the ladder is fucking broken

[cyan merlin]

Just seduce a greater Daemon easy

[opaque coyote]

And you are always working for a boss that you hate and the boss also hates you

[opaque coyote]

3/4 of them won't care

1/4th is Slaanesh

[cyan merlin]

Given how often I make jokes about tyranid wife with my friends
I like those odds

[opaque coyote]

And even then their idea of casual and gentle is by shoving a spiked club up your ass and twisting it around until your ass is literally just a bloody mess

[cyan merlin]

What about Tzeenchian daemons
Surely a handful of them would go with it for the lolz

[opaque coyote]

Too nerdy

Only interested in knowledge and fucking with people

And by fucking I don't mean the fun kind

I mean just ruining your entire life

[cyan merlin]

Well yeah the driving people insane kind

[opaque coyote]

[cyan merlin]

The Joker is a Tzeenchian daemon that somehow manifested in 2nd millennium

[opaque coyote]

Maybe one would be entertained enough for a date but the tzeentchian daemons probably won't feel love

[cyan merlin]

I don’t imagine there are many books that explore what greater daemons are and do are there?

Every day my grammar gets worse

[celest dome]

Than the current Imperium, maybe not exactly worse, but still just as bad

[lament shoal]

The imperium was still a genocidal fascist regime back then

[cyan merlin]

Oh yeah don’t get me wrong I have no misconceptions that it would be paradise

Just, not teetering on the edge of extinction levels of bad

[queen laurel]

well the thing is if they become a pest anyway like in the galaxy

the necrons just have a celestial delete button lying around

[cyan merlin]

Ignoring the fact that the necrons basically never want to use it
The consequences on the rest of the galaxy would be disastrous

[celest dome]

Weakening Chaos would also buff every other opponent since they themselves lost a strong Chaos opponent

[queen laurel]

They would just be in the same situation now just minus chaos of every single race just ganging up on them

[celest dome]

Chaos would probably be much more like the GSC

[cyan merlin]

Except the Orks
…And maybe the T’au would’ve been obliterated

[celest dome]

Globally speaking

Orks would still gang up on the Imperium

Hell a stronger Imp. would lead to stronger Orks

[cyan merlin]

Well yeah that’s what the orks were made to do

[queen laurel]

You do not understand orks love fighting and you just gave them a big strong enemy to fight which is enough reason in its own for them to form giant war bands just to fight them

hell they will probably be the most common enemy to fight

[cyan merlin]

More not understanding how they’re organized
To my understanding having the imperium to fight doesn’t mean they’d also stop fighting the other species

[queen laurel]

They won't but they will be much more organized

If you give them they also become stronger because fighting and surviving is literally what makes them grow

and orks tend to be smarter the bigger they are the bigger they are

So give them a strong enemy give them a constant cycle of fighting that guy and you're just gonna make bigger and smarter orks

[cyan merlin]

Oh also the Tyranids being possibly extragalactic would still be a huge problem

[queen laurel]

it would probably take them a while to notice the galaxy

without the pharaoh's device exploding

[celest dome]

If the Pharos doesn't explode, you could argue that they might take longer to find the right galaxy

[cyan merlin]

Don’t even know what the Pharos is ;-;

[queen laurel]

horus heresy lore which you just said didn't happen so

the loyalists and traitors were fighting for this thing it exploded which attracted the tyranids

Because super bright light means smart things making super bright lights

and so they decided to go to our universe

[cyan merlin]

Ohhh okay
So were the Tyranids just not in the galaxy pre-heresy?

[queen laurel]

Nope they were eating other galaxies

[cyan merlin]

Fascinating

[queen laurel]

there were scouts

But they went into hibernation

so they couldn't really relay the information

[cyan merlin]

And if the Horus heresy doesn’t happen and chaos stays weak they don’t even have the forces of nurgle to keep them in check

[shadow plover]

Chaos would find a way to corrupt and intervene in the Emperors plans no matter if the heresy itself hadn't happened

[queen laurel]

but after the light exploded the hive mind was now sure that there is life in the universe

^

the chaos gods tend to not like a guy that unites people

[shadow plover]

if the emperor created the primarchs, then the chaos gods would find a way

[cyan merlin]

Wonder how that would manifest then if the primarchs remained loyal

[shadow plover]

their legionaries

it all started with the legionaries anyways

[cyan merlin]

Without the primarchs themselves turning I figure the heresy would’ve lasted a lot longer
More drawn out

[shadow plover]

A lot of about their creation would have to change as well to not make them turn at all I feel

[cyan merlin]

Oh yeah the very nature of astartes would have to be completely different

Didn’t say this alt-timeline made sense, just speculating what it would be like

[opaque coyote]

And by extension, the Emperor himself

Since well he made them like that

[cyan merlin]

The Emperor… At least from what little I know, is too self-absorbed to have made the primarchs any differently
And if he WASN’T so full of himself he wouldn’t BE the emperor

[sleek dagger]

Is there anything about how emperor or other chapters reacted to night lords or traitor chapters pre-traitor ages? They already seemed sus when loyal but was emperor yea this is ok or no?

[arctic talon]

The emperor approved of their methods for the crusade but was planning on dealing with curze and potentially purging the legion.

As for what everyone else thought

They didn’t like them

Literally none of the other legions liked them.

The alpha legion and dark angels were the closest to people who didn’t dislike them

[sleek dagger]

Was there same sentiment for world eaters? Maybe others werent that bad

[sleek dagger]

Ok that makes sense. I made mistake for not buying Night Lords omnibus when I saw it on saturday. Maybe I need to go back to the shop to get it

[arctic talon]

Iron warriors liked them a lot.

Ultramarines hated them.

Everyone else liked them or was fine with them

[celest dome]

Who liked Iron Warriors

Iron Warriors didn't like themselves

[arctic talon]

World eaters, Mechanicum really likes them

Imperial fists fucking hated them

Everyone else was neutral to liked them

Ironically the iron warriors got along better with the loyalist legions better

Generally

[sleek dagger]

Ok 👍 very odd that NLs were like that as loyalists to begin with

[arctic talon]

I mean

Loyalist != nice

The salamanders had a whole thing of “compliant or ash”

Either a world was brought in line

Or it was scorched to nothing

[valid needle]

Oh fr? Which book says this?

[valid needle]

It’s explained by curze pretty well.

The emperor created him and the Nightlords as his terror troops basically, however. The Nightlords recruited from Terra and curze homeworld of Nostramo. The Nightlords from Terra were fine and honourable even. The Nightlords from nostramo however became largely the worst dregs of nostramo society because the nobility of nostramo took all the good soldiers and people for themselves and sent the Nightlords the worst criminals. This got out of control because curze was with the emperor or out on crusade and it’s not until curze returned to Nostramo that we see him go ballistic with sevatar and basically say how his sons are scum.

Basically

get given criminals as recruits, you’ll get criminals as your space marines.

[sleek dagger]

Ahhhh ok that makes it all more sense. I thought Curze was also bad. Did he turn bad though or chaos in the end or just evil otherwise?

[arctic talon]

Black books mention whispered rumors of a purge

[valid needle]

Mental health issues turned him bad

[arctic talon]

Curze was insane

And nihilistic

Curse’s ultimate goal was to die

A predetermined death

[sleek dagger]

Do I need NL omnibus with first 3 books to get full detail?

[arctic talon]

NL omnibus doesn’t have much curze in it

It’s good though

[sleek dagger]

Ok 👍

[arctic talon]

Prolly the best dissection of them post heresy

[valid needle]

No but I highly recommend it

[sleek dagger]

Ok great, I’ll go get physical one then. I need to check if the Curze book is also available. Found it on black library

[valid needle]

Aaron is one of the best BL authors

He also wrote the most famous and one of the best black templar books

[sleek dagger]

Damn theres too many books, i gotta go buy bookshelf 😂

[valid needle]

Auto crop has betrayed me my meme is ruined billions must die.

[queen laurel]

Nuh uh

[remote wadi]

peterabo was a literal primarch that refused chaos but was still evil

the big E didnt made a perfect job

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/jB0uVsUkl0g?si=weQzbjYgSZZ7zfor

The kinda shit Tsons play from their disc of Tzeench

ALAB

All loyalists are bastards

[valid needle]

Because Perturabo was an extreme narcissist with low self esteem and daddy issues

[rose thorn]

The perfect mini for the Halloween season

[unique bronze]

Theyre called Ratlings right

I wonder where the term came from

[storm jungle]

Its 40k-madeup

they are Hobbits/Halflings

probably just took the part of "they are lowly thieving scum" fantasy lore and just dubbed them "rats" for that reason

[unique bronze]

40k-madeup?

like theyre not actually in 40k?

[storm jungle]

They are. Im talking about the term "ratling" lol

when in reality they are literally Halflings.

[unique bronze]

i wonder if the 'hobbits' just went with or just okay being coined after a rat

just a thought

[storm jungle]

Tbh its a slur/slang term so not like they can really get a say in it lol

[celest dome]

And they're Abhuman, them speaking about it would just end with them dead

[rose thorn]

waiting on the monday reveal praying its underworlds

[nocturne crest]

It's the new gulliman model, without the armour of fate on.

Cheaper points wise, but loses toughness.

This leads to the third model of Gulliman, solidus Gulliman.

[storm jungle]

STOP THIS

[nocturne crest]

Just be Gulliman in some robes or something with a bolter and the emperor's sword.

[nocturne crest]

Just wait until we get another Lion El Johnson model

[rose thorn]

you made me flintch

flinch*

[nocturne crest]

Lion El Johnson on a bike.

[nocturne crest]

Sorry.

[rose thorn]

no nee to apologize

[queen laurel]

that's funny ha ha that's really funny anyway

COME HERE YOU LITTLE-

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-running-away-escape-nope-hell-no-gif-11230077378159241796

Each loyalist primarch, except Leman Russ will get two models.

[proven needle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-comming-old-man-wheelchair-wheeling-gif-21494441

More like on one of these.

[nocturne crest]

Just make it hover and add some plasma weapons.

Also add some ravenwings details as well.

How funny would be if they made a new dorn, but he had purple spider legs instead for 40k?

[storm jungle]

[nocturne crest]

Soul Drinkers were just ahead of their brothers.

No, cousins.

Dorn the abhuman primarch instead of wulfen Russ.

GW should hire me for my brilliance.

40k farming sim or Fantasy/AoS Sims?

The farm sim could have an Imperial base campaign, with Ork and Dark Eldar as DLC.

[rose thorn]

Die die die die die die die

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-dodge-gif-22809594

[dapper gyro]

It is Monday... We started strong...

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-gladiator-los-angeles-gladiators-gif-13574662

[remote wadi]

True

[mossy peak]

do the primarchs fuck

[storm jungle]

We dont know.

Next question

📢

[dapper gyro]

Considering there are human being naturally as big as a Space Marines, so there could be a chance. However, as per, We don't know.

[mossy peak]

as in not the server for that?

[storm jungle]

No as in we literally dont know lol

not a single source ever says they had sex of any kind

it could possibly be a satire on us, the fanbase

[dapper gyro]

If I'm 3m tall, maybe ladies would crawl on me.

[vagrant fox]

Fulgrim had wives, if they ever did the nasty, we don't know

[mossy peak]

make the only primarch with wives fall to slaneesh, classic 40k subtlety

[vagrant fox]

He didn't particularly love them, it was mostly political iirc

[raven stone]

I find women wanting to date tall men frankly stupid.

But then again it’s supposed to be freedom of choice and everything.

But still, nobody controls their bloody height.

It’s just something you are born with (unless you - quite literally - mutilate your own legs to extend them to make yourself taller. For which there is a surgery for. But no, don’t do that, not worth it).

[mossy peak]

destroy ur legs integrity and in return you get slightly uncanny proportions

[mossy peak]

i could have saved angron 😔

[celest dome]

There are reason to think that the Primarch could fuck

But that they're also not really that interested

[mossy peak]

too busy playing hoi4 to fuck

[lament shoal]

I'm literally jaghatai khan rn

[rose thorn]

Remind me to never speak again

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wpnaftda/march-for-macragge-with-new-ultramarines-upgrades-and-a-versatile-combat-patrol/

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-strangle-over-it-im-done-wtf-gif-5733066100478599257

BUY SPACE MARINES BUY BUY BUY

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-mr-incredible-not-strong-enough-gif-25547952

[rose thorn]

I love this head though

I like all the new war torn heads

[dapper gyro]

It is a sort of body shaming but many women refuse to admit it.

It is even more ironic when some of them don't take care of their body and have some insane diet...

[raven stone]

What is meant to be “stop teasing fat people” has just mutated into “men are not allowed to have any physical standards”, unfortunately

It’s a long journey that took a decade

But got there we did

[queen laurel]

Max I literally said every time you say something GW will release something you hate just to make you mad

[rose thorn]

IT WAS SUPPOSED TK BE UNDERWORLDS AAAA

Email me when the underworlds shit gets leaked

So we can see the new warbands

[rocky gale]

Real time reaction of me learning about this

[rose thorn]

LMAO

i thihnk its uspposed to be 2nd company themed

[surreal nest]

When a woman responds with "I prefer tall guys" and you say "You dont take care of your body and have an insane diet" there has to be some kind of like cause and effect evolutionary instinct that pops into your head right

[dapper gyro]

One thing is mostly caused by genetic, the other is mostly conscious decision.

[surreal nest]

Its not

Thats insane

[dapper gyro]

Also, I wrote "some", not everyone. Anyway, you know, whatever you like to think.

[nocturne crest]

Time to drink all, BF6 might be fucked in the future.

[nocturne crest]

New Gulliman approaches ever so slightly.