40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

they're rogue trader entourage

[storm jungle]

knowing how wealthy Vhane is they prob got special helmets for void-operations

[crystal forum]

so they look gay

[storm jungle]

No?

that guy in particular is a Voidsmen lol

[rose thorn]

All of creation suffers, young ones. Only in accepting our own mortality can we make a difference. Only in bearing the burden of our failures can we find the strength to go on. Only in detachment from glory, or honour, or jealousy... from life itself can we hope to spare others from grief.

We are Doom Eagles. And we are dead already.

+++ Librarian Secundus Thryn of the Doom Eagles +++

[storm jungle]

its called having style

Guard Bitch

your troops show off how wealthy you are too so

[crystal forum]

they look like ceremonial cavalry

[storm jungle]

No shit

[crystal forum]

especially the helmet

[storm jungle]

they are a rich rogue trader's goons

[crystal forum]

no but the helmet

is distinctively cavalry

[storm jungle]

Again. Rich rogue trader.

what do you want them to look like, Cawdor?

stinky ass

[crystal forum]

am i crazy for thinking this

[storm jungle]

Nobody is saying you are

thats the point

its fancy ass helmets

[vagrant fox]

dragoon helmets are fly as fuck and my soldiers will wear them

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[crystal forum]

actually no im crazy

it doesnt look cavalry

[languid meadow]

what a dogshit looking lasgun

I hate it

[vagrant fox]

looks a bit like this

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

oh yeah that one

[vagrant fox]

but it's irrelevant

[storm jungle]

Shut up

[languid meadow]

Im objectively correct

[storm jungle]

its literally just a kantreal with no stock

the artist Lewis Jones just exaggerated it

[crystal forum]

it also kinda looks retro

[languid meadow]

yeah the art is a billion times worse

[crystal forum]

weirdly

[languid meadow]

the model is fine

[storm jungle]

no

[languid meadow]

yes

[storm jungle]

no

[languid meadow]

yes

[storm jungle]

no

[languid meadow]

yes

[storm jungle]

no

[languid meadow]

yes

[crystal forum]

i love how the model kneepads are like 50% of the leg

[storm jungle]

no

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-squarepants-angry-ripping-gif-25651719

[storm jungle]

tbh its a mini

[storm jungle]

AAAA-

[crystal forum]

anyways im not a big fan

[rose thorn]

PEAK PEAK PEAK PEKA\

[crystal forum]

the duality of man

[storm jungle]

go back to the mudpits guardboy

your kind isnt welcome here

[crystal forum]

arbites still has not gotten a single new skin store page

what's up with that

[storm jungle]

because they barely got anything in the lore or artwork

next question

[crystal forum]

is that really the reason

[storm jungle]

Yeah lol

GW approves of these before they get put on the store

[crystal forum]

why dont they make something up

[storm jungle]

Arbites are not really as open-ended as the 4 classes

[crystal forum]

that's funny considering how neglected arbites were until recently

what arbites looked like

[arctic talon]

That looks like fan art

Lol

Not sure why

[crystal forum]

it's on the lexi

it's the arbites guy from eisenhorn

[storm jungle]

Its official but

1. This is very stylized

2. Its the older arbites appearance

Next

📢

[arctic talon]

This is the iconic old arbites art to me

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

The dark heresy arbite art is peak

[storm jungle]

its the classic judge dredd look

[crystal forum]

im sure they can make skins based on old art

[storm jungle]

tbh we dont know

GW is like

extremely asinine

yall got no idea

💀

NDA and all but

[vagrant fox]

GW does as GW does, considering the no shirt incident

[crystal forum]

maybe GW should make more arbites art then

we should get the rogue trader skins

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

I was thinking about those, they got some neat extra details

what's the one from the old rogue trader ttrpg art where he's got a gay little jacket over his armour I want that one

This one, fixed up a little maybe

[crystal forum]

i bet all GW wants is the helmet to be updated

even though the old one is iconic as well

man why havent we gotten a valhallan skin rotation yet

[vagrant fox]

valsnoozers where's my tunnel rats

[crystal forum]

generic scrappy guard uniform #78

i wonder how vostroyan ogryns work

[arctic talon]

GW wants it to be more different from Dread

is why

[crystal forum]

do they come from lineages

[arctic talon]

I'd assume they get assigned as auxilleries, after enough time pick up the uniforms or are given them as a sign of comradery

or out of necessity

[crystal forum]

the ripper gun looks good

would be nice if vostroyans care for their ogryns as anybody else

im not very familiar with vostroyan lore

their guns look cool

[arctic talon]

seems like they care a good bit

[crystal forum]

i love that ogryns are loved by guardsmen

(i just wish the vostroyan lasgun in the store was a standard lasgun instead of helbore)

[young pecan]

They're also marginalized and feared by guardsmen at the same time

Kinda sad

[crystal forum]

i have not seen a story where a guardsman fears an ogryn

a non officer at least

[arctic talon]

The 2 guardsmen next to Dukane are afraid of Ogryns

[young pecan]

There's a dialogue between two of the guardsmen by the Havoc area in Darktide, if you're playing ogryn

Yeah that

[crystal forum]

idk ive seen way more instances where the guard loves ogryns

[young pecan]

They call you an ugly bastard or something and then one of them starts shutting the other up, asking him if he wants to get ripped in half

[arctic talon]

it likely varies person to person

[young pecan]

Hopium

[arctic talon]

but most Guardsmen are shown

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

[arctic talon]

as liking them

[storm jungle]

there isnt some universal opinion on ogryns lol

[arctic talon]

yeah

[young pecan]

I personally would be very afraid of a 9 foot hunk, who is child-minded in both the best and worst ways

[storm jungle]

^

[young pecan]

I wouldn't be racist

But I would at least be careful even if I like them

[storm jungle]

i hate this dumb perception of like "omg mah cute ogryns" these people are literally manipulated slave soldiers lol

[storm jungle]

its why im glad Bully exists

aka reminding you not every ogryn is a nice idiot

[young pecan]

Bully threatens people more than he does anything else xd

[storm jungle]

Yeah, HE DOES care but like he is extremely violent lol

[young pecan]

I think he even interprets a friendly dialogue as mean-spirited one time and threatens them but I forget

[storm jungle]

yeah lmao

he has some great kind moments but he is nowhere near as docile as Bodyguard or Brawler

he has some great revive lines where he threatens to leave one behind

but also one where he tells them to get up and show them what they are made of etc

[vagrant fox]

Bullygryn is very funny, I get why so many pick the Toby Longworth one but man

[storm jungle]

Bodyguard is my fav but Bully is legit great

because hes an ogryn you dont see a lot in lore

since for some reason every ogryn has to be a teddybear lol

[crystal forum]

apparently valhallans rn are fighting alongside dante

i guess being stuck in nihilus wasnt exciting enough

goated regiment

[storm jungle]

Stinky as hell

[dapper gyro]

Bully ogryn is mean, but not malicious.

All classes have a personality like that.

[radiant lance]

Tsundere if you will

[dapper gyro]

[crystal forum]

why is his bolter so thin

[lament shoal]

Its on a diet

[crystal forum]

i was reading up on raptors as you can see

why do people like this chapter again?

[lament shoal]

Because they're the closest there is to space marines using real world battle tactics

[crystal forum]

no, that's the thing

[storm jungle]

artist style

[storm jungle]

because they are sensible

[crystal forum]

the only thing they do conventionally is use camouflage

[storm jungle]

No?

[crystal forum]

what else

[storm jungle]

The camo thing is just 1 gimmick

maybe read their lore before passing any proper judgement

[crystal forum]

i just read the lexi

they're highly specialized

[storm jungle]

Yeah which glosses over many characteristics

[crystal forum]

how are they any more sensible than raven guard

[storm jungle]

Because Raven Guard just drop into battle in jetpacks and lightning claws while yelling like psychos and sometimes using stealth

lol

[lament shoal]

Raptors utilize guerrilla warfare if I'm not mistaken

[storm jungle]

They utilize any tactic that wins them the field essentially

since they rely on small numbers a lot more

and less giant open field battles etc

[lament shoal]

Yeah they're able to adapt quickly to changing situations

[storm jungle]

Yeah which like ironically most Chapters never do lol

they just headbutt shit until it works or their opposition dies

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Raptors#Chapter_Combat_Doctrine

[lament shoal]

Ork logic lol

[storm jungle]

Anyway its all detailed here

Lexi glosses over a ton of specifics in favor of easier condensed information as it usually does

They basically just act like proper normal spec ops soldiers amidst the more fantasy-like fighting doctrine of normal space marines

its a pretty normal quirk to like

[crystal forum]

busy petting my cat

i assume i won the argument

[storm jungle]

you lost

get out

🫡

[dapper gyro]

Also, the standard colour of the raptor changed. Even the current colour is just the formal one. In the field, they recolour their armours.

Which btw, a guard regiment used to be known for that as well. They are called the Cadian Shock Troops.

[storm jungle]

Never heard of them...

[dapper gyro]

Yeah, they are kind of obscure.

[crystal forum]

pretty much every regiment does it

just look at all the camo skins in darktide

the morbians have a ton

[storm jungle]

They dont tbh

[crystal forum]

what

master chief do you mind backing up that statement

[storm jungle]

Finished the Fight.

Next.

[crystal forum]

that's just standard kit what about it

regiments put all sorts of camo on it

[storm jungle]

Its the default look they utilize in everything

and I mean

every

thing

[crystal forum]

that's like saying all space marines are ultramarines

who cares about the marketing

[storm jungle]

Because Cadians have always used 1 color scheme.

[storm jungle]

then why arent the ones in most visual media utilising camo

[crystal forum]

im just saying regiments use camo

like look at all the camos in darktide

[storm jungle]

Not on my watch they dont.

🫡

[crystal forum]

anyways camos are just paint options at the end of the day

[languid meadow]

gonna blow myself up

this new steam store UI makes my brain mad

[storm jungle]

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

[crystal forum]

the moebian blue camo being made for ocean worlds is funny

[storm jungle]

theres only 3 regiments

[crystal forum]

since i am desperate to have any ocean worlds represented in the setting

also how does the blue help when fighting in a floating hive city?

[languid meadow]

the navy has blue camo

and they're on big grey ships

[crystal forum]

those guys are gay it's different

im a little lost on all the moebian groups though

@storm jungle which moebians turned traitor again

[storm jungle]

Bruh

are you fucking kidding me lmao

[crystal forum]

there's like 8 different name dropped moebian groups

[celest cedar]

what would their camo colors supposed to be 🤔

[storm jungle]

Theres literally just the Moebian 6th who are THE most prominent

[crystal forum]

that's the name of the whole regiment right

[celest willow]

Guys which space marine chapter is most likely to enjoy pottery

[crystal forum]

it's not like 6th battlegroup or whatever

[celest willow]

I need to know

[arctic talon]

Idk but the blood angels do pottery

[vagrant fox]

blood angels definitely

[languid meadow]

Blood angels and white scars?

don't WS do art stuff

[celest willow]

Do you think the emperor children enjoy pottery

[arctic talon]

WS are more poets/song

[languid meadow]

they do poetry

[dapper gyro]

They pot their body.

[arctic talon]

BA are more painting/pottery/sculptures

[celest willow]

Makes me wonder what do the boring space marines do in there free time

[languid meadow]

pray

chant

train

exist

[dapper gyro]

Sleep in a tube...

[celest willow]

Image a black Templar using crayons

[dapper gyro]

You overestimated them.

[pulsar stump]

Well, the Imperial Fists cover broken glass in Sewage and eat it, so...

[celest willow]

Imma assume your joking

[pulsar stump]

[celest willow]

Even tho it sounds on brand

[pulsar stump]

They also spend hours at a time inside "The glove that sets your nerve endings on fire"

[crystal forum]

why do video games like to tell us when an update is free nowadays

i dont get that

[celest willow]

Foreshadowing

[crystal forum]

also free DLC's

like isn't a free DLC just an expansion to the game

[storm jungle]

They are coming to get you thats why.

[storm jungle]

And no, its still DLC, downloadable content

since... well, its content you download for the game

[celest willow]

I still find it funny that the arbitrators sing the lex

[crystal forum]

okok so dilara

what are the moebian 53rd

[celest willow]

My mom

[crystal forum]

please leave

[celest willow]

You know who else has to leave

[celest willow]

Also steelheads

[crystal forum]

what is that

[celest willow]

The 53rd moebian

[storm jungle]

^

https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Moebian_53rd

Read it up or suffer nerdboy

[crystal forum]

is there really no lexi page for this

[dapper gyro]

A nerd wouldn't ask, but looks it up themselves.

[celest willow]

Yk it is kind of a terrifying thought how fast nurgle’s gas can burn thru any gas mask

[crystal forum]

moebian 21st, moebian 53rd, moebian 6th

i dont even know how to pronounce moebian

[celest willow]

I imagine moe and lesbian

so like moy bien

or mo-bian

[storm jungle]

^

it very much is not that difficult

lmao

[surreal nest]

Are there any canon descriptions of the appearance of Perturabo's daemonhood?

[crystal forum]

i read it as mo-eh-bian

but im also not british

[storm jungle]

just watch some vids

[storm jungle]

'Even before his elevation to daemonhood, the primarch had been colossal, but now he was a giant plated in silver and steel, encased in armour that was more a fortified sarcophagus than anything wrought for a living being. Edged in yellow and black, scarred from ten thousand wars and seamed with weld-line like scars, it was known as the Logos, its textures strangely alive, like a skin of metal and flesh combined.

Perturabo, the Lord of Iron himself.

He went without helm, his head a nightmare of pallid, dead flesh, necrotic and bleached of colour - like a corpse dragged from a depthless ocean trench. Thick cords of ribbed cabling pierced his skull, running back across his scalp in hissing cornrows. Eyes that were gimlet black, yet lit from within by the coldest light, stared out from a face that had known only bitter disappointment and had been cursed by inevitable betrayal.

Dassadra dropped to one knee as the Lord of Iron approached.

His mighty hammer, Forgebreaker, had been crafted by another, but had changed so profoundly from its original appearance that even had its original maker been alive to see it, he would no longer recognize the craft as his own.'

from Halfbreed

[surreal nest]

Damn thats fucking sick thank you

[crystal forum]

the 21st kinda sucks huh

[surreal nest]

Couldn't find that anywhere in google

[storm jungle]

When in doubt type "reddit" at the end of it

r40klore has a ton of related posts for these

[storm jungle]

Not every regiment can be cool

[crystal forum]

poor guys

happened to be on atoma prime by circumstance

suddenly they have to fight demons

so is rannick in charge of the 21st

or do we not know who's leading them

also i was not aware that there were so many regiments in the moebian domain. i thought it was one big moebian regiment with different sections like how cadians do it

[dapper gyro]

Dilara is slowly becoming a chat bot.

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

[crystal forum]

this is unusual man

there's so many moebian regiments holy shit

how big is this sector

[unique bronze]

must have a cluster of imperial worlds under them and atoma prime is just one of them

[celest cedar]

probably at least 10 LY in diameter..

[crystal forum]

ok so this is a mind blower for me

regiment can mean both the overal grouping of armies from a single planet and it can also refer to the armies themselves

but it's officialy called a a regimentum

i thought regiment only meant the overall military

[unique bronze]

guess its just those imperial guard lingo, that sounds interchangeable

[crystal forum]

it's why you can refer to the "cadian shock trooper" but then specify the 8th cadian regiment i think

[dapper gyro]

A Cadian regiment and The Cadian regiment are 2 very different things.

Usually though, it is the Cadian shock troops, then a Cadian regiment.

Dkok is the name of the group, then Krieg regiments are the smaller parts of it.

[unique bronze]

I think the regiment is the unit itself right, and the Regimentum is the big picture overarching organization of the Militarum

[crystal forum]

i will start using the term regimentum since this shit is confusing for no reason

[dapper gyro]

The poster boys of the Cadian is the 8th Cadian, light infantry.

[crystal forum]

cadian shock troops is regimentum

[dapper gyro]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Cadian_Trooper_Regiments

[crystal forum]

using the same word to refer to 2 levels of organization is so stupid

[vagrant fox]

On brand for the Imperium

[crystal forum]

this reeks more of ancient lore being shoehorned into modern lore

[unique bronze]

I think its considered a regiment if its a numberered unit, is what I get, so Cadian Shock Troops is a regimentum since its the whole umbrella

[dapper gyro]

Many regiments are temporary anyway, much like real life.

[nocturne crest]

If GW wanted to make their own Arkham Asylum/City/Knight game, what would be the best way forward with it?

[dapper gyro]

In Canadian army, regiments are usually a few battalions. During war, Canada had hundred. Right now, we have a few dozens.

[unique bronze]

Make it about the Dark Angels homeworld before the imperium found them

[opaque coyote]

Firstly

Have them kill all the primarch-

[sacred ginkgo]

Inquisitor or eye of the emperor

[crystal forum]

bruh nostramo is right there

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside

Nostramo obviously

If you want to actually be interesting maybe Necromunda

[crystal forum]

nah i think nostramo would be plenty interesting

we barely have any nostramo representation

and a LOT of munda stuff

[opaque coyote]

Play using the Spyrers

[opaque coyote]

True

Tbf that might be because the planet is dewtroyed

Like

You'd have to make it take place in 30k

Because it's basically a barren rock in 40k

[crystal forum]

just a game about curze would be nice

if the entire idea is to have a batman like superhero anyways

[storm jungle]

Are you aware of like

how huge a sector of space is

[crystal forum]

that wasnt what i was confused about

it was the term regiment

[storm jungle]

I mean its correct so

[arctic talon]

Munda

Is peak

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Oh discord just caught up

Lmao

[crystal forum]

you cant have a guy going around like batman in munda. he'd die immediately lol

[storm jungle]

Lmao elite

[storm jungle]

I mean

no lol

also depends on which Batman

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-batman-batman-absolute-kick-dc-dc-batman-gif-7467735231163525917

YEET

[crystal forum]

this is why we need a nostramo kurze

evil batman

[opaque coyote]

Pros

Would be cool

Cons

Would have to take place in 30k

[crystal forum]

it would take place on nostramo

completely cut off from the rest of the setting

[opaque coyote]

Nostramo by 40k is destroyed

Like

[crystal forum]

so?

[opaque coyote]

It got bombed

By Cruze himself

[arctic talon]

Have it on the warhammer crime hive world vargaunta

[crystal forum]

it wont be 30k themed at all

[arctic talon]

Because warhammer crime is peak

[crystal forum]

this is before kurze even knew of the emperor

there's no imperium involved at all even

[unique bronze]

Wont it make more sense if its 30k then

Like before everything

[storm jungle]

Ornithoptera my beloved

[crystal forum]

no what im saying is it doesnt matter if it's 30k or 40k

[storm jungle]

it does

primarchs STINK

[opaque coyote]

Also again

Timeline

Cruze fucking bombed his home planet to oblivion

[arctic talon]

Also curze would mog everyone in question lol

[vagrant fox]

Total primarch death, die again guilliman

[crystal forum]

how does this matter though is my point

[arctic talon]

I want someone who isn’t a superhuman

[crystal forum]

if the game takes place in 30k what's the problem

it's still before the emperor arrives

[opaque coyote]

Cause it has a definite ending

[unique bronze]

Could be about how he grew up in Nostromo

[opaque coyote]

The story is already written somewhat

[crystal forum]

that what im saying!!!!

[arctic talon]

Tbf curze was skinning people by 10 lol

[opaque coyote]

That's also why the Emperor has so many inconsistencies

[unique bronze]

Yeah but you cant do that in 40k tho right

[crystal forum]

im going crazy here

[unique bronze]

cuz planet capoof?

[opaque coyote]

Also you could even use a generic Hive planet

[crystal forum]

why does it matter if it's 30k or 40k

[arctic talon]

Because 40K is cooler

[nocturne crest]

Have you seen Absolute Joker?

[crystal forum]

guh

[arctic talon]

Okay jokes aside

[unique bronze]

[crystal forum]

nostramo wouldn't even look gothic

[arctic talon]

(And my personal biases aside) It’s because 30k doesn’t have any video games aside from mobile games.

People are more familiar with 40K conceptually then 30k

[crystal forum]

it had no contact with the imperium

[arctic talon]

It’s purely an advertising game

At that point

[arctic talon]

And also people have certain expectations of what 40K looks like

Even heresy

Which got 40kified more as we got more lore on it

lol

[crystal forum]

hey this guy asked what would be the closest we could have to batman game

and my answer is nostramo

[arctic talon]

Yeah and I think we should have some random fucked up dude in a hive city doing it

[crystal forum]

because OP character doing dark stuff

[arctic talon]

Batman isn’t a superhuman

[crystal forum]

he literally is

[arctic talon]

Ignoring the stuff he does because he’s Batman

[crystal forum]

IGNORING WHAT HE DOES

[arctic talon]

Batman is supposed to be a normal human

[unique bronze]

Wasn't Nostromo already steeped in corruption even before the Emperor found it

[arctic talon]

Curze is not a normal human

[opaque coyote]

Also a Batman could totally exist in Necromunda.

[arctic talon]

Yeah it was already a shithole

[opaque coyote]

Just like

[crystal forum]

he's a main character

[arctic talon]

The imperium unironically improved its crime rate

lol

[crystal forum]

batman is a main character

kurze = batman

[opaque coyote]

Similar to Batman, it would be a constant fight that he has no chance of winning

[crystal forum]

some random guy cant be batman

[arctic talon]

There already is a Batman adjacent enforcer dude. Though he’s more of a Wild West gunslinger vigilante

lol

And he shoots people

To death

Because it’s necromunda

But he’s got the gadgets

He’s got the car

[crystal forum]

that wouldnt be batman though

[arctic talon]

Hell he’s even got a cape

Curze also killed people

[crystal forum]

yes

[arctic talon]

With firearms as well

[crystal forum]

he did it for justice or whatever tf

[arctic talon]

Yeah and so does this ex enforcer dude

He does it for justice™ and law

Ignore the fact he just capped a guy for stealing an apple

And blew an enforcers leg off for trying to rob someone

[opaque coyote]

Also I think shooting someone

And flaying them alive is a bit different

[crystal forum]

ok so if this game were to take place on nostramo then the game could start with kurze as a kid with the planet being shit and then him as an adult with the planet being "fixed"

[unique bronze]

wasnt Curze's version of 'justice' was by being oppresive and bloody

[crystal forum]

a necromunda game cant do that

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

necromunda has to finish the way it started

unchanged

[arctic talon]

He literally skinned people alive

And broadcasted it

[crystal forum]

WOLF

[arctic talon]

It doesn’t, considering Helmwar isn’t even in charge of munda in modern lore

Lol

Munda is pretty malleable

[unique bronze]

yeah, so i wouldn't say tailoring him to be like batman is the way to go

[storm jungle]

I have, I love it. J has turned into a 40k tier villain and im all for it

the next issue cant come out soon enough dude

[crystal forum]

he could be a shitty batman

just terrorizing people

and still ending up with the whole planet under his control

does this not sound fun

[arctic talon]

he literally wears a baby suit

LOL

[nocturne crest]

I'm going to be honest, I've been wondering what an Absolute Ra Al Ghul must look like in this universe.

[storm jungle]

ITS SO GOOD

[arctic talon]

anyways necromunda batman

/hj

[storm jungle]

Very likely some eldritch djinn ahh monster

[arctic talon]

My favorite ex corrupt cop turned into a vigilante

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, I was thinking something like a human version of a rat-king.

[crystal forum]

tf kind of justice is there on necromunda anyways

[arctic talon]

He literally protects the poor and average person from the Enforcers and Gangs

terrorizing them

[opaque coyote]

I mean part of Batman is the eternal struggle against crime. A back and forth battle with no true ground gained

It would fit 100%

[arctic talon]

now granted

[storm jungle]

frontier justice

[arctic talon]

he does also fucking blow peoples limbs off for stealing

and other shit

[opaque coyote]

A city corrupted to its core as somebody fights to change it but fails miserably

[arctic talon]

but he is very much a mythical savior figure on munda

He's literally called the Ashwood Stranger lol

[crystal forum]

i am thinking about this mechanically with how a video game similar to arkham would work, i am not thinking about batman himself lmao. there is no batman equivalent in 40k because everybody's evil

idc about batman in this context it's just a powerful crime stopping guy

[arctic talon]

Mechanically it would be easier with a normal human

imo

[opaque coyote]

I mean

A Hive City would fit perfectly for Arkham gameplay in general

[arctic talon]

bcs then you can have vehicles

[opaque coyote]

High ass buildings

Vehicles

[crystal forum]

it wouldn't because how would a normal human go around killing gang bosses and shit

[arctic talon]

BY BEING BUILT DIFFERENT

[opaque coyote]

The ability to drive around

Etc

[arctic talon]

LIKE ASHWOOD MY GOAT

[crystal forum]

a primarch does that easily

[storm jungle]

How they do IRL

its called fucking guns

[arctic talon]

WITH GUNS

[storm jungle]

YEA

[arctic talon]

AND A GIANT SWORD

[unique bronze]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

You are acting like 40k isnt goofy as shit

what the fuck is this argument

LMAO

[crystal forum]

nostramo is like distinctively gotham though

[storm jungle]

ITS NOT

[crystal forum]

it is

[storm jungle]

Its literally a generic hive city but pitch black

have you even read Curze's book

[crystal forum]

is that not gotham

[arctic talon]

Ashwood is funny as fuck as a Necromunda bounty hunter

because it implies your gang is in the moral right for his sense of justice

[storm jungle]

No????

[arctic talon]

whenever he shows up

[crystal forum]

joking

but the idea is nostramo is full of backstabbing bitches

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-joker-joker-meme-joker-laugh-joker-face-gif-2773880479553306381

[arctic talon]

like okay, guess setting up my meth lab is morally just

[crystal forum]

even more so than most hive worlds

[opaque coyote]

Spyrers exist.

Even fulfills the "rich person" part of Batman.

[storm jungle]

Spyrers are basically batman yeah

minus uh

killing homeless people for fun

lmao

[crystal forum]

that would completely remove the crime solving aspect

[opaque coyote]

There you go

It's now 40k

[opaque coyote]

Just... have them solve crime for their own reasons?

[nocturne crest]

Also, I got a silly idea for Darktide skin: Standard guard uniform that looks like it's been defaced by a Harlequin.

[crystal forum]

it would just be killing hive scum:the video game

[opaque coyote]

Give the character a motivation?

[crystal forum]

which would be fun

but not the idea here

[arctic talon]

make it so that their Mom/Dad/whatever noble is sponsering them

[nocturne crest]

My basis is the Masque of the Twisted Path.

[arctic talon]

wants them to solve some issues

other then hunting poor people

[crystal forum]

that could work

[arctic talon]

Spryers can get really fucking weird

as we've seen with the Hive Secundus stuff

[crystal forum]

and you get to upgrade your gear as the game progresses

[arctic talon]

one of them is in Secundus to get a stained glass window back

that was important to their

like

Great great great great great ect.

grandparent

I'm glad spryers have evolved beyond yeah they just hunt poor people

[nocturne crest]

Actually, I just had a thought, but what if they based it on that book about a lone space marine fighting the t'au

[arctic talon]

now they hunt poor people and have other motivations

[opaque coyote]

Could also investigate where GSC are

That they need to purge them

[crystal forum]

no GSC

would be very lame

[opaque coyote]

But they exist in Munda

[crystal forum]

it has to be gangers

[arctic talon]

GSC would be fine as one of the gangs, but it should be obvious what they are lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

[arctic talon]

The mystery isn't that they're GSC

the mystery is wtf they're doing

[crystal forum]

munda is about gangs smh

[arctic talon]

yeah

[crystal forum]

it's not some xenos world

[arctic talon]

and GSC are a gang

[opaque coyote]

I would say the mystery is where are they

[arctic talon]

Nah

[opaque coyote]

And where to murder the fuck out of them

[arctic talon]

that isn't a huge mystery on Munda

Underhive is a shithole

[opaque coyote]

I don't mean their existence.

I mean like the location of their base

Or

[crystal forum]

"oh boy i cant wait to open a game of necromunda and fight orks"
statements spoken by the utterly insane

[opaque coyote]

One of the many myriads of bases

[arctic talon]

Anyways I like Ashwood as a munda bounty hunter because he always gets to act first if you attack him

If you shoot at him

and he's "readied"

he always gets to shoot first

And this doesn't take away his action

so he just blows your head off if you try to shoot him

[crystal forum]

throw a grenade

[nocturne crest]

What about using Klovis the Redeemer?

[opaque coyote]

Skill issue, should've had space marine tier instincts

[nocturne crest]

He already has his batmobile.

[arctic talon]

tbf it literally works on the Marine

LOL

[opaque coyote]

Man shoots your hand before pulling the pin

[arctic talon]

vandroth the fallen

still triggers ashwoods rule

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit lmao

[crystal forum]

i threw from behind cover

[tough haven]

Trying to come up with a reason to have some insane blood angels succumbed to the black rage so I can throw them at my party during this Ork Waaaagh!

[arctic talon]

yeah you deal with ashwood with grenades

Jay is correct lol

grenades or snipers

if you don't give ashwood a sniper

[crystal forum]

holy shit i was just shooting in the dark

[arctic talon]

Nah grenades can go around corners

or over cover

He can't shoot you if he can't see you or have his bullets reach LOL

[opaque coyote]

Why doesn't he shoot the grenade

Smh skill issue

[crystal forum]

he forgot his V.A.T.S

[arctic talon]

because grenades rule over all in munda

they are the LAW

and also grenades are risky to use in munda if you are playing with structural damage rules

bcs

its a fucking grenade

Oh boy I wonder what happens if I blow up a support pillar

or damage it sufficently

[crystal forum]

hey ashwood is dead at least

[arctic talon]

don't play with structural damage

[opaque coyote]

Classic Fallout allowed you to shoot the crotch with VATS.

Modern Fallout doesn't.

Woke Bethesda ruins Gaming once again!!!!!!!!

[tough haven]

But it’s in the nihilus so I can’t easily just be like “yeah some blood angels got called in”

[crystal forum]

if the whole building goes down with him then i consider that extra precaution so he doesnt come back as a zombie

mission accomplished

[arctic talon]

you're likely not killing him with a normal frag unfortunately

[arctic talon]

BA's are in Nihlus

[crystal forum]

god fucking damnit

[arctic talon]

as in their whole chapter

is in Nihlus

He has flak armor by default and a good few wounds

which is actually really good in munda

LOL

[nocturne crest]

Wait, do they make jump packs for regular sized humans?

[crystal forum]

a guardsman would kick ass in munda huh

[arctic talon]

but krak grenade will obliterate him

[tough haven]

Yeah but how do I explain there being just an isolated squad deep in ork territory

[arctic talon]

was part of a small strike force

[crystal forum]

aquilons, elysians

[tough haven]

I love Munda cause it’s just people

[arctic talon]

that was sent to decapitate the waaagh

[tough haven]

No marines

[arctic talon]

I mean

there's one marine

[nocturne crest]

I thought those were grav chutes?

[crystal forum]

oh

[arctic talon]

Vandoth the fallen is a fucking weirdo though

[tough haven]

Yeah but it’s not common

[crystal forum]

just throw blood at him and shoot him while he's drinking it

easy

look he literally has vials of blood on him

[arctic talon]

Well he’s not addicted to blood

He’s addicted to eating people

[crystal forum]

is that carapace or power armour

i dont see a power pack

[nocturne crest]

Imagine this guy just being a food critic on Necromunda's population.

[arctic talon]

He’s in carapace

Heavy carapace armor

Which is different from normal carapace

[crystal forum]

god i love that you can have a power armour backpack in darktide

and it doesnt do anything

[arctic talon]

It’s for decoration

[crystal forum]

do you know if it's from a specific PA

it doesnt look like sororitas to me

[arctic talon]

It’s based on greyfaxes

Iirc

[opaque coyote]

Make sure it's a Vortex Grenade then

[crystal forum]

it being custom PA is even funnier

probably the rarest thing a reject can own and it's useless

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s greyfaxes lmao

[crystal forum]

sadly i havent found any armour it can mix with

[opaque coyote]

I can easily imagine the Zealot finding it

Immediately recognizing it

Keeping it

[arctic talon]

Could just be

Suspiciously similar

[opaque coyote]

And then Hadron is like

"Varlet, take it off, it's useless."

"No."

"Take it off now!"

"It's mine and you can't have it."

[crystal forum]

drip or no drip?

[opaque coyote]

"IT LITERALLY DOESN'T WORK"

"yes it does shut up"

[opaque coyote]

Fits well with the coat

Drip

[crystal forum]

yeah the voidsman looks better

[dapper gyro]

Technically speaking, ceramite is the material, which used for both marine armour and many of the carapace.

Therefore marine armour is pretty much the "heavy carapace" class.

[crystal forum]

it's probably just somebody's custom PA

but how it arrived on tertium is the biggest question

i guess im buying the voidsman skin now

[arctic talon]

It looks good with both imo

[crystal forum]

the brass looks closer to voidsman

the vostroyan is darker

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

well now idk what i should get guh

i'll just wait for now

[crystal forum]

anyways, so is there anything left of the astartes kit

thats not even a bolter right

[arctic talon]

His knife, his shoes

And his bolter was stolen

Likely

It’s a bolter just a uh

refurbished one

And also he has random marine armor bits strapped on

But those don’t count

[crystal forum]

does that mean he killed other astartes

[arctic talon]

Unclear, it’s in blood angels red still

So it might be bits of his old armor

Either that or he’s been making some paint

[crystal forum]

that's not BA red

[arctic talon]

And has been killing marines

[crystal forum]

that's some faded shit

[arctic talon]

It’s like an old faded BA red

Imo

[crystal forum]

if he's killing astartes then he really is not coming back to BA

lol

although imagine if he was given new phobos armor

[arctic talon]

ngl the dude seems off his rocker

How the fuck did he even end up on munda as well lol

[crystal forum]

must have been a looong time ago

[arctic talon]

My favorite necromunda bounty hunter is still the dude that sucks the water out of your body

[nocturne crest]

Do they make lightning claws for regular sized humans?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[wind canyon]

Can’t blame a guy for being thirsty right?

[arctic talon]

He’s got a mighty thirst for H2O

His weird creepy archeotech armor he found lets him extract water from people

everyone get back he has a laspistol

[wind canyon]

He reminds me of Embo from SWTCW a bit

[arctic talon]

It’s the hat for sure

And like the leg area

[wind canyon]

Yep

[plush mason]

so he is basically from Dune

[unique bronze]

Is the water for like drinking or something else

[young pecan]

But it's a Special laspistol so it shreds carapace acktchually

I made that up I'm sorry

[arctic talon]

After the armor integrated into his body and took over keeping him alive he’s constantly thirsty

The armor allows him to literally drain the moisture from people and convert it into drinking water which helps quench his thirst

In general the dude loves water

[arctic talon]

God I wish it was a hotshot laspistol lol

[dapper gyro]

Literally Cad bane...

On the side note, Star Wars blasters has surprisingly weak range for a sci-fi.

[arctic talon]

Tbf Star Wars is space fantasy

[dapper gyro]

Most soft sci-fi are fantasy...

[arctic talon]

Are blasters actually that slow in universe

Or is it for viewing purposes

[dapper gyro]

It is as fast as bullets, but due to the tracer, it looks slower.

The standard medium blaster maximum range is around 500m and effective range (max power) is about 50m...

[arctic talon]

I c

[dapper gyro]

300m is the typical maximum reach for weapons in Legend, lol. New cannon buff them.

[opaque coyote]

Mf literally gives you the succ of a lifetime

[rose thorn]

... is this that 40k comic book?

er- visual noevl

[unique bronze]

Arent there a few of them out there, I read one about a deathwatch kill team, and the one about Calgar

[viral halo]

[tough haven]

What are some ways ork boyz could meaningfully contribute to the siege of a fortress' walls?

Without having rokkit launchers or anything

just your standard kit boy

Trying to figure out how they could use that brutal kunnin' to get through or over those walls

[lament shoal]

Overwhelming numbers

Weapons fire in the general direction of the wall defenders

[arctic talon]

climbing

Tunneling

[tough haven]

As in like just standing on each other to get up their?

[tough haven]

Well yeah

[arctic talon]

yeah

or like

[tough haven]

just shooting at the gitz on top of the walls works

[arctic talon]

Using climbing gear/scaffolding

ect.

[near wasp]

I had this art commissioned for my inquisitor a while ago. Figured I should share it

[arctic talon]

very cool

[unique bronze]

Is that a titan behind them

[near wasp]

Knight

Knight Inquistor Alric Vhalmont (left)

Former rouge trader now inquisistor Seraphyna (right)

Cassandra Vhalmont heir to Wrath Talon (middle)

Knight Wrath Talon

[daring creek]

Why is that only a single headed aquila.

Can you tell me who the artist is

[near wasp]

It's one of my irl friends

[daring creek]

Oh

Though that single head aquila is very weird

[near wasp]

And he just forgot the second head

[daring creek]

A very bothering absence

[tough haven]

Holy OC syndrome, you’ve hit all the targets of “40K OC that I want to be able to do anything” Inquisitor, rogue trader, knight, noble

What a retinue

[valid needle]

Does single head Aquila have any meaning?

[daring creek]

It just feels very strange

Incredibly off

Like if you want it to be 40k you need the basic Aquila. I can't unsee that

[near wasp]

I mean I know that.

[daring creek]

Does your friend have a social media like Deviant art

[valid needle]

💀

[daring creek]

No insult intended

I'm just getting the faint scent of something

[near wasp]

It's real art

I watched him draw peice of it on a discord stream

[daring creek]

Oh cool thank goodness.

[unique bronze]

I think old Imperium had just the one head Aquila or am I wrong

[daring creek]

Cuz theres scams going around.

[near wasp]

He just draws with a fucking straight line tool

[valid needle]

Oh I thought this was going another way

[near wasp]

Yeah?

[daring creek]

I thought it was AI. I asked about Deviant art because the scammers like to do that

You see their profile and find their style is just all over the fucking place

[near wasp]

He's pretty consistent

Hold up

[daring creek]

Again. I'm sorry if this offends you. But the ultra generic nature of this also really set off my alarms.

Also just one Aquila.....

[near wasp]

He's still very new to 40k so symbols and such get him

[daring creek]

I believe you, yeah.

squints oh. That's an Inquisitor.

What's the moon symbol for

Or well

A member of the inquisition

[near wasp]

Idk this one he drew first and kinda just drew it one day cause he was bored. And this version is an edited version he did cause I told him the first one was too lewd for me to feel comfortable sharing

[daring creek]

Got a Bio for your oc?

[near wasp]

Kinda

I'm writing a novel thing

[daring creek]

Oh nice

[unique bronze]

Lewd you say?

[dapper gyro]

Why are you people like this...

Anyhow, share that 1st version.

For comparison purpose

[unique bronze]

[queen laurel]

You shameless devil you

[near wasp]

Hold on it's technically sfw but uhhh he was experimenting with using colored lines so imo it looks a bit weird

[unique bronze]

[dapper gyro]

🤮

If you tell me that it is 40K, I would tell you that you are on crack.

[unique bronze]

Well he did say it was edited I guess

[near wasp]

This was the one he made first

[dapper gyro]

Good call on changing it.

[daring creek]

Nawt bad

[near wasp]

Yeah he's both learning 40k and drawing so yeah

[dapper gyro]

I'm not saying that it is bad, it doesn't feel like WH of any kind.

[queen laurel]

Give him advice when he wants to do warhammer give him the later versions of his more grounded works to follow

make it make sense

[near wasp]

That's what I've been doing slowly been getting him more informed

Bought him a few books and an audio book

He's read brutal cunning, kingmaker, and infinite and divine

[valid needle]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-walking-dead-i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-gif-3136629546574604277

[queen laurel]

good choices

[near wasp]

He also has lion son of the forest but he hasn't started that yet

[dapper gyro]

I was an honest demand.

[valid needle]

Great book

Amazing book

[unique bronze]

Amen

[valid needle]

Infact I hear it’s the best book

[near wasp]

It's my favorite

[valid needle]

I read that book and I said wow that’s a beautiful book

[near wasp]

My top five are lion son of the forest, kingmaker, grotsnik, gene father, infinite and divine

Ok ok I gotta put the phone down so I can go suffering in the cogitator farm tomarrow

Aka I got work tomarrow

[valid needle]

My top five are probably

Luther: First of the fallen
Cypher: Lord of the fallen
Lion: son of the Forrest
Black Legion
Fall of Cadia

[daring creek]

So hard for me to finish books

Whats a reliable channel for consistent 40k lore

Or well, the most accurate

[valid needle]

Besides the actual books, Lexicanum.

[daring creek]

youtube channel...I wanna eat and watch za lor....

[valid needle]

Most YouTubers have bias for their factions and most are imperium fans so you’ll be spammed with good guy imperium propaganda most of the time

Honestly

If you can afford it

[daring creek]

Don't worry I'm well aware of the good guy non sense

[valid needle]

I highly recommend warhammer+ they do their own lore videos and it’s all non bias, well mostly.

[daring creek]

Actually thats kinda disappointing cuz I want to learn the cruelty behind it as well

Oh shit I forgot lexicanium has a channel right?

fuck

[near wasp]

Baldamort is pretty good imo

[lament shoal]

Bricky isn't one of these people

His favorite faction is night lords lol

[valid needle]

Bricky just perpetuates memes really

[lament shoal]

He's got good lore vids

[near wasp]

Honestly bricky is fun but not as accurate

[valid needle]

But yeah warhammer+ is really good they cover all universes and each video is like 20-30 mins. Here’s just a few of the 40K ones

[daring creek]

Don't that shit cost money.

[lament shoal]

It does

[sacred ginkgo]

I don't watch 40k content but I know Dilara and Elite recommend Arbitrator Ian

[lament shoal]

A subscription in fact

[daring creek]

I'm broke dawg.

[valid needle]

Ah well then

[near wasp]

People do recommend ian

[valid needle]

It is a very good one though for what you get access to

[lament shoal]

I don't wanna give any more money to gw than I already do tbh

[near wasp]

Not everybody has Warhammer plus money my plastic crack is hard enough to afford

I'm gonna have to start painting my chaos killteam

[valid needle]

Gotta get that recaster hookup lol

[crystal forum]

you can get the same quality of content for free on youtube

definitely not worth the subscription price at all

[shadow plover]

not for those videos alone I but over all I think it's fine for what it is, you get most of the money's worth from the miniaure alone in the end

[crystal forum]

you can get those "limited edition" minis for cheap second hand

[shadow plover]

again, if you're after a single subject from the subscription it isn't really worth it but over all it is

like just for the mini, probably not worth it
just for the lore stuff, probably not worth it

[crystal forum]

i get much more value from another streaming platform personally

i managed to watch everything on warhammer+ after just 2 months

i did get the only mini i wanted though so for me it wasn't a loss

but you have to really really want this for it to be worth it

[surreal nest]

Their apps are serviceable too as a plus

[queen laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7RiZs0FGMEA?si=6skE9DnnMIs4EVCP

[crystal forum]

im 6'3

[shadow plover]

eh the yearly sub isn't that expensive and the minis alone almost cover it. If I were only after the video format content I'd probably find it elsewhere but this service having a physical bonus, archive of old physical book/magazine releases and a current rule service, it's very much worth it even without constantly interacting with it

[queen laurel]

I unfortunately do not care because you are still the gayest person I know

[crystal forum]

sadge

[shadow plover]

and what I've seen, the secondhand market for the minis is like twice the price of the yearly sub

which is bonkers

[crystal forum]

i found one for like 15$

but i guess the price goes up after the model's year rotation

people see limited edition on the box and think what they own is actually valuable

[shadow plover]

current ones are like £60, two year olds are £100

just by the ebay prices at the moment

[crystal forum]

collectors are the bane of all hobbies

i wonder if this means i can sell my guardsman mini for the same price i paid for the subscription

[shadow plover]

probably

[crystal forum]

would be funny

if anybody actually pays that price

[shadow plover]

yeah, they're listed at this sorta price but I doubt they'll sell quickly

[crystal forum]

lmao

ridiculous

it's a shame that i cant find 3d scans of these models

too niche i suppose

i kinda want that year 1 khorne marine

[shadow plover]

not too fond of direct 3d scan copies

[crystal forum]

it depends on the quality of the scanner

they can get pretty expensive

[shadow plover]

oh if they're asking money for the scans it's extremely scummy

[crystal forum]

wdym

[shadow plover]

it's not their work they're selling

[crystal forum]

oh yeah it's 100% theft for sure

[shadow plover]

I don't really care if someone is sharing 3d scans of models, whatever, but selling something you had no role in creating it's scummy

same with 1:1 copy 3d models

[crystal forum]

but if there's no money incentive then you wont find many people with 2000$ scanners doing a niche model out of the kindness of their heart lol

at the end of the day you're paying for the 3d scanning service

[shadow plover]

they should scan something different for monetary gain then

there's so many other options for such things

[crystal forum]

my arbites has power armour

[sacred ginkgo]

3 class reworks and you're playing arbys

[shadow plover]

what if it's the only one with penances left...

[queen laurel]

Vet rework and he decides to be a police

Smh

[sacred ginkgo]

Why does the speed freaks discord have several dozen times the active members than the game does active players

[queen laurel]

I don't know man

I genuinely cannot tell you even if I wanted to