#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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On ulthwe they’re treated with respect due to the fact most of the population are seers

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So the few who choose to be warriors are held in higher regard then seers

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But on the average craftworld they’re seen with a level of unease

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Because they do kill people for a living

rose thorn
crystal forum
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wait you bought stellaris?

rose thorn
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i pirated it

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i mean

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i

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have it

crystal forum
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does this mean we can play

rose thorn
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yes

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i have no clue

crystal forum
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can we try right now

rose thorn
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i ned to test it online works

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i got alot of hw

crystal forum
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darn

rose thorn
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how do craftworlds differ physically

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and what issues can affect one craftworld but not anotehr

arctic talon
crystal forum
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holy shit since when is stellaris 50 bucks

rose thorn
crystal forum
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did they increase the price

arctic talon
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Generally their issues are external rather then relating to the craftworlds structure

rose thorn
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no itsl itearlly just 50 bucsk

crystal forum
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what the fuck

crystal forum
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we're so close to doing a lore chat stellaris match

rose thorn
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is stellaris'.. i forgot what the nomad origin was called, good for ideas for my craft world

crystal forum
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LMAO

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are you asking all this just for a stellaris match

rose thorn
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no im asking because i unironically like using steallris for 40k lore

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and general ficiton lore

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like for campaigns and stuff

crystal forum
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uh i guess nomad would be closest yeah

rose thorn
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is nomad the name?

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i forgot what its called

crystal forum
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with the space stations

languid meadow
crystal forum
languid meadow
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people would still tech rush in its nerfed state

crystal forum
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i havent played in a while

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but i wanna play with the lore lads

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larping as 40k factions

rose thorn
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how the fuck do you larp gsc in stellaris

crystal forum
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necrophage

rose thorn
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can you like do shadow invasions ors omethgn

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OH

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@arctic talon how importnat are crone worlds to each cw

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like how much of an influcne are they

crystal forum
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it's how they get their spirit stones

arctic talon
crystal forum
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there's other source

rose thorn
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i forgor about tah

arctic talon
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As Jay said

crystal forum
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other than that, crone worlds are macguffins

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where anything can happen

arctic talon
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There’s old eldar empire stuff on them sometimes

crystal forum
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any tech at all

arctic talon
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Because macguffin

crystal forum
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literally a sword made to kill slaanesh

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yes that existed

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it's also inside the eye of terror

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so definitely an interesting place to have a story happen

rose thorn
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i forgot does 40k have (insert name of weath from stellaris weather dlc)

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besides warpstorms

arctic talon
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Oh like

crystal forum
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besides warpstorms no

arctic talon
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That sort of stuff? No

crystal forum
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but that's what warpstorms are lol

rose thorn
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fair

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man i should do osmething inspired by the toxic knights origin

crystal forum
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best origin

rose thorn
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i wnana try it

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it looks fucking isck

crystal forum
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they have a kickass story ending if you take certain routes

rose thorn
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theres, story endings?

crystal forum
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you can literally go to war with hell

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it's like secret endings

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and secret events

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they have a lot of funny interactions

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again, you can go to war with hell

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as in hell itself

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that's a random event

rose thorn
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i need ot finish getting those artifacts befoer the midgame event happens

crystal forum
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are they in your territory

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if so dont worry about them

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you can take your time

rose thorn
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nono

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its a quest line

crystal forum
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precursors?

rose thorn
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i get rnadom events tellign me one of the artifacts are somehwere nad ih ave ot do a quest ot get it

rose thorn
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i got like 2 left

crystal forum
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probably precursors

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dont worry the game gives you progression with it

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for free basically

rose thorn
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bro i had to pay a rich guy too much money for one

crystal forum
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yeah that one is a freebie

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just remember

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no matter what you do

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do not enter the L gates before mid game

rose thorn
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idk waht that is tbf

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my current goal is to pusha s many enviormetnalist laws as i can

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becuase people i dontlike hate it

crystal forum
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you're using the galactic senate?

rose thorn
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yea

crystal forum
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power move

rose thorn
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spirtialist pacifist

crystal forum
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jesus christ

rose thorn
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i make infinite union

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and spam the enviormental stuff

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whats it called

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the envirometnalist civic yeah

crystal forum
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huh

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you have the dlc's

rose thorn
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the version i have hasall of htem yes

crystal forum
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that's a lot of stuff to learn

rose thorn
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i litearlly need all of them or else i cant play

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mentally

crystal forum
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i played without dlc's the first time

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it was amazing

rose thorn
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now im thinking about kamen rider

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i wsa gonna say kamenrider eldar but eh

crystal forum
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we must conduct a test to see if we can play multi

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my cat has returned to devour my charging cable

rose thorn
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okay 1d4 chan- oheyah the website is dea

crystal forum
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it died?

rose thorn
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pretty sure because i cant access it at all

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1d6 chan is alive

crystal forum
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w-why are you trying to access it

rose thorn
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because 1d4 chan has the 'roll to make your [blank] charts'

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and i dont remmeber what book they ripped it from

crystal forum
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boot up stellaris

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i must try multi

rose thorn
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im about to play underworlds

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after ill see if ic an

crystal forum
rose thorn
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i fi get a relaly good idea and i can get a realy good deal on eldar i mgiht get them

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they are now up there

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anyoen have/know of custom craftword lore

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CraftworldEldar youtube channel seems great

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"wait wasnt there an eldar killteam-"

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OH EYAH

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BLADES OF KHAINE

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arent htey

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terrible?

crystal forum
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if your stellaris doesnt work i will actually consider buying it for you

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i need lore chat stellaris so badly

rose thorn
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dont buy me 200 dollars of dlc

crystal forum
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you dont need them

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just the base game

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i have the DLC's

rose thorn
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i know there is a way i can highjackit to wrok

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to make my stellaris connect to my steam

crystal forum
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can you try pls

rose thorn
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ive done it before

crystal forum
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i just wanna test before going to sleep

rose thorn
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yee i iwll

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underworlds coems first

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i need ot pratice for a torm

crystal forum
rose thorn
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oooo play underworlds ooooo

crystal forum
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what is that

rose thorn
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warhammer minature + card boardgame tihngy

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its amazig

crystal forum
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what the fuck

rose thorn
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ive been posting baout it for literally a week

crystal forum
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sorry i mentally zone out anything fantasy related

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maybe i'll get it when it's on sale

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wishlisted

rose thorn
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not hte videogame

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the videogameis dead

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i mean the literal mintaure game

crystal forum
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oh lmao

rose thorn
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its so good

crystal forum
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you're playing with somebody?

rose thorn
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Yes my partner

rose thorn
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im plauying kamadoras bnaldes wiht wreck adn ruina dn raging lsayers

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kamadora's blade siwth wrekcn and ruin and raging slayers

crystal forum
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i dont understand any of that but it sounds awesome

rose thorn
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It’s really fun

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Chip damage on chip damage on big damage

rose thorn
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Hate that the aeldar store page has drukhari in it

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It’s making it harder to look at modles

opaque coyote
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The evil and intimidating Drukhari:

rose thorn
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Hey are ynnari lore wise like baiscally just 1 craft world

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I had an idea for a craft world that thinks the ynnari practices should be mandatory and are hyper hostile towards non ynnari aeldar

arctic talon
rose thorn
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Ah gotcha

arctic talon
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You could do that if you want

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Tho

rose thorn
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Meh I don’t think ynnari are gonna live next edition tbh

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Unless they get the best book ever

arctic talon
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They’ll exist lore wise

rose thorn
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They seem like they are on the cuff of just being eldar

arctic talon
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The thing with ynnari

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Is that they’re a literal death cult

rose thorn
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Yeah

arctic talon
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Which not everyone is onboard with

rose thorn
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It’s so unique I love it

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humans being militaristic death cult
Lame
aliens being militaristic death cult
POG

arctic talon
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💀

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Ima be honest here I don’t love ynnari

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But I’m glad people like them

rose thorn
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Their lore is literlaly 2 characters

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So meh

arctic talon
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3

rose thorn
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Is the incarnate a character or a concept

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Like

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The avatar of khaine

arctic talon
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Leilith is part of the ynnari still

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Even if she thinks they’re going in fucking circles lol

rose thorn
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Lmao

arctic talon
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So is the Corsair Prince dude, Yirel

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He’s more ynnari then Corsair/craftworlder still

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But he’s fucked off to do his own thing for now until the ynnari need him

rose thorn
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I’ll look at the Christmas box as I guess they will get one

arctic talon
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Drukhari refresh 11e sku

rose thorn
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What’s with the warp spiders btw

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I forgot what they did

arctic talon
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They’re noted as being

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Completely batshit insane

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Compared to other eldar because they literally enter the warp regularly

rose thorn
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Lmao

arctic talon
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But yeah they excel in CQB

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Their weapons shoot out a bunch of monofiliment wire

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And you get cut to a million tiny pieces by them

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Also they like swords

opaque coyote
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IT IS A WARP SPIDER

lament shoal
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Do they have models for those?

opaque coyote
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WaItInG HeRe Is BuT A PhAsE oF OuR ExIsTeNCE

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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And also their phoenix lord

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She’s arguably even more insane

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Considering she “rests” in the warp sometimes

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Don’t ask how

opaque coyote
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Slaaneshi Daemon pokes her

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Daemon immediately gets stabbed

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snort "yes... I luv teleportin.."

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hooonnnk

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Also that is a sick design

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How TF does she have 4 arms

unique bronze
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wat dem arms do

radiant lance
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Help lift and hold things typically

opaque coyote
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Also noticed that she has 8 limbs in total

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Finally

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The correct amount of appendages for a spider

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I think she is like

One out of the two spider themed characters I know that actually have the correct amount of limbs for a spider

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The other is Muffet from Undertale

unique bronze
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painting that must be a bish

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Hell of a hobby

crystal forum
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it helps when you have poor impulse control

unique bronze
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Sounds about right KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
# unique bronze wat dem arms do

Warp spiders extra arms help support the guns, or have auxiliary weapons.

The Phoenix lords has 4 guns. 2 of which are miniaturized warp spinners and the other 2 are a ranged form of the harlequins Kiss melee weapon.

And then she has a very fancy sword that can literally carve open reality

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And the harlequins kiss is the funny melee that impales you before liquifying your insides

rose thorn
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my aprtner beat me lma

unique bronze
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Smol boi

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its a video game?

queen laurel
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warhammer Age of sigmar

shadow plover
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well the image is from a video game, tabletop simulator

queen laurel
shadow plover
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on which they're playing one of the AoS skirmish games

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can't recall the name

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warcry or the other one

queen laurel
shadow plover
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yeah

rocky gale
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Year of Chaos

queen laurel
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Like I'm not tripping balls here right he is genuinely getting taller and taller stepping stones

shadow plover
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the image is also larger

queen laurel
shadow plover
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True true

unique bronze
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I like how cute that frst one is lmao

valid needle
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Don’t worry son we will get ice cream we just need to exterminatus this planet of innocent xenos first.

rose thorn
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hey what craftworld gods are like still worshipped besides khaine and clown

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i had an idea for a craftworld

storm jungle
# rose thorn hey what craftworld gods are like still worshipped besides khaine and clown

Eldar Mythology, told through the Eldar Mythic Cycles, is an ancient story that binds the Eldar race together and forms a basis for much of their thinking on their ancient past. It told of their pantheon of gods and heroes, all of whom would perish in the Fall of the Eldar – save three, Cegorach in the Black Library, Khaine shattered among the...

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They arent really worshipped anymore persay, just remembered as great sundered figures, through nothing stopping your Craftworld from still doing it as a old practice.

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Also the newest 10th edition codex brings back an old lore bit saying the Eldar had over a thousand gods (i.e per Hindu mythology as a reference).

rose thorn
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gothca

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okay ill need to back peddal on idea then

queen laurel
storm jungle
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remember every craftworld is its own "nation" more or less

rose thorn
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nah its fine i dont think there is a god that works with it anyway

storm jungle
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What was the aspect

rose thorn
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the idea was the craftword coming of age 'marry' themselve to one of hte gods but theres people who 'divorce' themselves and 'marry' into khaine or cegorach isntead

storm jungle
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Yeah that is ironically very hindu so it actually works pretty lol

rose thorn
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oh peak

storm jungle
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I got a craftworld that heavily worships khaine and has cults of him present across most of the worldship and are led by a civil theocratic council.

rose thorn
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ooo

storm jungle
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Id say however go with Khaine, he is the god venerated the most through Aspect Temples and some other craftworlds

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Cegorach is fine but his deal is entirely largely done by Harlequins

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though if you wanna expand the idea you can have some sub-cultures of your craftworld venerate him as well

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Asuryani eldar are a very diverse bunch

rose thorn
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yeah the idea was the marry into other gods was like "you can do that but we dont like you for it"

storm jungle
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Yeah exactly, thus you can make them rely more on themselves and some other harlequin Masques for support in wartime

rose thorn
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ahh

storm jungle
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Yeah again remember its a multi-continent sized ship

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cultures would develop somewhat in a sphere like that

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since eldar are like greek city states as well to some degree

rose thorn
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'marry' was just a term for becoming an aspect warrior / harlequin but still staying on the craft world

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mi glad the idea works the marrying part was the only thing i wanted lmao

storm jungle
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Yeah again like

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A ton of eldar culture is based on gaelic, hindu and japanese stuff, and a ton of their IRL myths are some wild shit lol

queen laurel
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Oh my God power ranger

storm jungle
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so this is very normal

storm jungle
rose thorn
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ah yay

storm jungle
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Yea I expected something else tbh lol

rose thorn
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idk what the main god should be

rose thorn
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oh and marrying into ynnari i guess would be a thing to o but i imagine people would like that even less

storm jungle
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Yeah ynnari are treated as extremists

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an duh

storm jungle
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you saw their treatment in current lore

rose thorn
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lmao

storm jungle
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its not really worth the effort

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everyone is abandoning them

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lmfao

rose thorn
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is there an eldar god of love or family or anything

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that wast shadow banned by slaanesh

storm jungle
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Thats generally Isha

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but you can also make one up really

queen laurel
storm jungle
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Again a thousand gods

queen laurel
vagrant fox
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cegorach is the laughing god so he's full of love

storm jungle
queen laurel
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Hey I said ignore that fact

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If Warhammer fans can ignore something for the sake of ignoring it because they don't like it you can do the same

rose thorn
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ill do isha most likely bc im unsure how wide custom gods are in eldar

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i swore there was a craftworld that worshipped her

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isha i mean

storm jungle
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Some got their sigils symbolizing her in their crests too

rose thorn
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ah

storm jungle
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like ulthwe's eye symbol with the tear

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etc

vagrant fox
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It's fine, you can do what you want. For my craftworld I want to incorporate ancient greek hero worship for Eldanesh, buddhist virtues, and that muslim Sayyid thing but I'm not sure how to go about it. 40k just lets you make up things

storm jungle
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Yeah that, also the Eldar having such a mix of old mythic cultures helps a ton.

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Eldanesh is literally just Gilgamesh and so on lol

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Gav isnt relly the most creative writer but these are pretty fun stuff

vagrant fox
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It's a whole pick and choose bag, good fun

storm jungle
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Yeee

rose thorn
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i wonder if the polyamory craftworld would be introverts or extroverts

storm jungle
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Entirely depends on how you want it.

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Eldar are not like us, they dont really have societal norms the same way we do.

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Its the same as how some literally become shopkeeps as a job and sell shit for free lol

rose thorn
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i can see like "our god wife says we must go here"

hallow saddle
rose thorn
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or also they would think that other craftwrolds arent devoted enough to their gods

sharp pollen
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do drukhari twerk for pleasure sometimes? or its already not cool for them

vagrant fox
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too mundane

queen laurel
rose thorn
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wtrf is that grot art

queen laurel
storm jungle
storm jungle
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hence why it looks like shit

rose thorn
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gretchin fuck

queen laurel
# storm jungle same thing tbh

no a grot in age of Sigmar is capable of making their own armies and societies

gretchin are slaves and incapable of being their own thing

queen laurel
storm jungle
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and stop pinging me after every message, i leave the chat coming back assuming theres an emergency lol

rose thorn
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lmao

rose thorn
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okay eldar lore slaps we ball

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burn

storm jungle
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And you stop being a freak

sharp pollen
queen laurel
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GW treats them like a door rug

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recently at least they have gotten good things

rose thorn
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i owould say ill painthem as a polyamoury flag but there slike 3 craftworlds with those colors

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now i must learn the craftworld langauge and see what means love

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wow there is an entire website purely for eldar

storm jungle
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Lmao yeah

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even for their runes as well

rose thorn
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nothing seems to mean like family or antyhing

queen laurel
rose thorn
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i mean it makes sense

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the ork langauge is also like, a valid language lmao

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heard somwehre most langauges are dependant on what they have to write on

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eldar had mgaic bullshit so theirs are complex and long symbols

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orks have scrap metal

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so they need ot be simple and hammared

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and since they have no universal education you need to also be bale to guess waht the important symbols mean

queen laurel
rose thorn
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jokes spread father

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i think ill do aspect warrior heavy play style so lore wise its mostly those married to khaine going out

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oh and corsairs are poeple who refuse to marry in the tradition at all

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i have no clue what to do about rangers

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maybe rangers are refusal to participate

queen laurel
rose thorn
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and corsairs are corsairs are corsairs

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khaine would probably be the second most common god to marry

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i have no clue how you chose what aspect warrior you become

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besides personality type

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i forgot was blades of khaien good or terrible

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i think terrible

queen laurel
rose thorn
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yeah

wintry scarab
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How good is a space marienes memory? Is it the same as a normal humans?

vagrant fox
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Very good, the deathwatch rulebook goes on about how a bunch develop photographic memories

queen laurel
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But it could also vary of course

vagrant fox
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It's not perfect, Dante forgot things over time from living too long

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and they usually forget what it was like before they were transformed

queen laurel
queen laurel
wintry scarab
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Thx!

valid needle
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Love me imperium
Love me chaos undivided
Love me muscly marines
Hate xenos
Not racist I just don’t like em. Simple as.

rocky gale
valid needle
rose thorn
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Yes

hexed orchid
green loom
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Think it was Farsight that got him

hexed orchid
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It was said by a tau who later was sealed into his suit, to keep him alive (He was referring to a Dreadnought at the time) KEKW_ogryn

vital ginkgo
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If the imperium came across a planet with a similar humanoid species like twileks or something that were peaceful/pacifist would they be treated just like any of the enemies of humanity or is there a different protocol for a situation like that?

green loom
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Or enslaved

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Or enslaved and then murdered

queen laurel
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yeah if they are aliens

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They are immediately treated worse

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If let's just say they are abhuman

green loom
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They're still enslaved

queen laurel
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^

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But they're less likely to die ish

green loom
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Or they get unlucky, and the people that find them are very puritanical, and just murder them for being too weird

vital ginkgo
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The imperium enslaves aliens? I didn't know that

green loom
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Hey man short term labour is short term labour

vital ginkgo
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I thought they'd just kill them all

queen laurel
green loom
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Either or probably

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Depends really on the one who finds them

queen laurel
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Trust me they would either just kill them or forcefully break them for something else

vital ginkgo
queen laurel
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Also yes it can depend on who finds them

green loom
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Admech are more likely to yoink them for servitor fodder or food

queen laurel
green loom
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Regular imperials are more inclined to kill

vital ginkgo
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They have some pretty mean neighbors

green loom
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They are the mean neighbours

vital ginkgo
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Nahh

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Orks they come in stinking the place up

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No manners

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Loud

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Can you blame the imperium

green loom
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Yes

queen laurel
rocky gale
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Never forget, the reason there are only hostile aliens left alive is because the Imperium already killed all the friendly ones

queen laurel
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Back breaking labor and treating human life as a commodity

vital ginkgo
queen laurel
# vital ginkgo Thanks for noticing

yeah that's like a bad thing I'm not gonna cut them some slack because their neighbors are evil if they don't bother to be better than their neighbors

vital ginkgo
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But

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Cmon

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Ya know...

queen laurel
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i am not hearing it

vital ginkgo
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I'm not reading that

queen laurel
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anyway

vital ginkgo
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Serviter factory

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Where they make serviters?

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Could be worse

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Who were the serviters before ?

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Why doesn't the imperium use aliens as serviters?

celest dome
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Cause that would be tech heresy

queen laurel
# vital ginkgo Who were the serviters before ?

Figures in translucent plastek sacks hung from the rails. Small data-pads wired into their chests winked in the ruddy gloom. Softseals in the bodysacks allowed IV-tubes to penetrate the dormant figures at the wrists, necks and thighs, taking blood to containers hanging beneath their feet. White-armoured Sanguinary Priests walked the aisles between, checking on their harvest. Every ten seconds the lines lurched forwards to the grinding of some hidden engine and the squeal of wheels, setting the bags swinging.

Chauld led Hereon towards the centre, bodies either side. 'Some of these are the crew and cargo of the free ships we hold at our orbital,' he explained. 'The rest are our thralls. Their labours are done. Every fifty years we change our stock for new and the old are given a great honour. The processing is almost done - we are two thirds of the way through. New servants have been drawn from the remainder of the mortals from the ships and the rest will join with us and our freed servants, blood to blood.'

'You are draining them of vitae...' said Hereon quietly. The stink of blood was causing his mouth to water. His gums ached as his teeth moved in his upper jaw.

'Yes,' Chauld said baldly. 'You must feel it too - the smell of this vitae excites you, you know its terrible lure. If you wish, you may drink of it, as much as you want.' He laughed a horrible, despairing laugh. 'We all must feed. It is our nature. In five days, we shall be finished. These bodies will be flensed, their bones cleaned, and they will be interred with all honour in the Chapel of the Isle of Martyrs. We shall bathe in their blood. Into it, we shall pour the essence of Sanguinius by opening the veins of one of our priests and draining him unto death. Then the blood will be treated again, and prepared into the liquid food of battle. Thereafter it is introduced into our armour's dispensers to nourish us in war. A half century's supply is here.

marines having human blood

vital ginkgo
queen laurel
#

before you reason but those marines need blood

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I am not hearing it

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Those are innocent people on refugee ships

vital ginkgo
queen laurel
vital ginkgo
#

Gotcha 👍

rose thorn
#

Wish 40k had an underworlds style game

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The skirmish of skirmish sized games

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A like, half the size of killteams

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(I really like underworlds)

queen laurel
#

necromunda and kill team

rose thorn
#

Necromudna?

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Digestible?

queen laurel
celest dome
#

But what if AOS Necromunda

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Pls gw

#

Pls

celest dome
#

Divinly chosen City of Sigmar, get multiple groups

#

Maybe instead of House gangs it is Guilds

rose thorn
#

The grand alliances work great already for the format

celest dome
#

Iron worker guild is able to have some Duardin

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Hunter/Coursier have a majority of elves

surreal nest
queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Put it in Misthåvn or something

celest dome
#

Can't have Orks, can't have Tyranids

rose thorn
#

“When playing a tzeentch warband; all gear must have Generic, Chaos Undivided, or Tzeentch keywords”

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Misthåvn is the city of Scoundrels and has a bunch of shady shit going on

celest dome
#

There are Ogre in the Cities of Sigmar, so I would guess that they would be here too

rose thorn
#

Yes

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One thing about cities is

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Slavery is completely illegal

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Not even misthaven deals in the slave trade

queen laurel
#

but ogre mercs

rose thorn
#

I think necromunda AOS / Mordhiem AOS would take place in a underworlds style location

rocky gale
#

Like more of this guy

rose thorn
#

An abandoned city or ancients ruins or a forest full of shit

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Butcher Guild (Fell to Khorne)
Dye Guild (Fell to Slaanesh)
Abandoned Hospital (Undead)...

queen laurel
#

Not really tied to the guilds but more the ones that just go around and get hired by everyone

rose thorn
#

Don’t limit AOS to fantasy stereotypes

celest dome
#

Munda somewhat hinge on stereotypes

rose thorn
#

Make it an adventure, gotta be heroes delving into disease festered ruins in a race against a band of night haunt

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Then you just end up with Cursed City

rose thorn
celest dome
#

That wouldn't really be Munda though
Well you could have some story like that

rose thorn
#

Cursed city OC hammer

queen laurel
#

munda it's about isolated factions vying for power in a place

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That's what makes it so unique

rose thorn
#

I just want the gameplay loop of necromudna in AOS lmao

#

In AOS settings

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If it’s all humans only like, cities and chaos would want it

celest dome
#

You'd probably have a Skaven cultist gang

queen laurel
celest dome
#

With some hidden Skaven

rose thorn
#

Worshippers of Nagash

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Vampire infestation

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Cities of sigmar them selves are also infested with

Fucking everything

queen laurel
#

yeah so like my suggestion of an ogre mercenary companies frequenting in the city for work

rose thorn
#

Kruleboyz roaming the sewers kidnapping people

rocky gale
#

Could have people that are in the process of turning into ghouls but are still kinda human

rose thorn
#

Fec would be very fun

rocky gale
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The Ushoran book has a lot of fun descriptions of people in the process of becoming Ghouls and how some of them are basically able to conceal it to infiltrate areas to spread further

queen laurel
#

ok if we're going by destruction

gargants are most definitely out because they are incredibly conspicuous

ironjawz would either work as muscle or fighters but not really something that you would see

Ogres can work because they are literally mercenaries for hire as well

grots and Kruleboyz could appear as a very small faction that currently infiltrating the city

rose thorn
#

I wanna play stormcast in Mordhiem tbh

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That’s my main goal

celest dome
#

Necromunda has 6 House Gangs, + 6 factions, and some smaller ones that are meant to use in support.
Don't think that if they did the same amount of work that all the setting would realistically be represented

rose thorn
#

And kurnothi

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Just make it like, more complicated warcry

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Each faction has a list of fighters and gear

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And purchase yo shit

celest dome
queen laurel
#

but yes as you can see you can have many many factions

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You can have chaos you can have outsiders you can have

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The political parties or whatever have you

celest dome
#

Yes but miniature wise it would be difficult unless it tend to use outside miniatures

rocky gale
#

Like for your base factions you draw inspiration from the elements of the Cities of Sigmar

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and then you introduce Cults for Chaos and Undeath, maybe some Destruction as mercenaries

rose thorn
#

Note

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A lot of those are dead

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Like cannnonically

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Well like 3

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All the high elf ones are extinct, the wood elf ones are extinct, and I think one of the shadow elf ones are extinct

rocky gale
#

Na those are all the living ones

rose thorn
#

I thought shadow blades were dead

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Oh my bad I forgot

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They were absorbed by DoK in function

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Shade of khaine;

celest dome
#

Tbh I think they're better of not looking at those factions, but rather doing their own things.
Like have a Brewer faction that has human, dwarfs and Ogor

queen laurel
#

Ogor mercenary company
Ogor mercenary company
Ogor mercenary company

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

Hmmm curveball here

arctic talon
#

Regarding the wanderers

rose thorn
queen laurel
#

What about hanger on and hired bounty hunters and stuff

rose thorn
#

The uh.

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What’s it called

arctic talon
#

That’s just freeguild

queen laurel
#

With those you could be much much more creative

arctic talon
#

Iirc

celest dome
#

Ogor as part of some of the base gang

rose thorn
#

Fair

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They were dissolved into wider freeguilds

queen laurel
#

Wait, iron jaw Brute hanger on

celest dome
rocky gale
#

Probably not all of them as factions though, like the Darkling Coven, Dispossessed, Freeguilds, Order of Azyr and Ironweld Arsenel would be a good starting 5

queen laurel
#

Or another goddamn faction I don't know

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Troll hanger on

rose thorn
#

Also why would internal cities of sigmar factions fight each other scavstare

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Who all work for the same city

queen laurel
#

A wight bounty Hunter

#

Oh boy so many choices

celest dome
rocky gale
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Because infighting is what they do

celest dome
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

I think all these factions being parts of cities is the wrong idea

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Outside of cults

arctic talon
#

We must make the shittiest city of sigmar

rose thorn
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And isn’t using the strengths of AOS

arctic talon
#

Yeah well munda doesn’t use the strengths of 40k either

celest dome
#

Necromunda doesn't also

arctic talon
#

It stands on its own 2 legs

queen laurel
#

That's the type of s*** I'm talking about

#

Make this place horrible

arctic talon
#

If GW wants to make an AoS necromunda

celest dome
#

Necromunda is a strong setting cause it is meant to work on its own

rose thorn
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Necromunda is fucking he’ll caused by the industrialization and slavery of 40k

arctic talon
#

They need a semi isolated sandbox

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To work with

queen laurel
#

Yeah it needs to be semi-isolated and kind of its own thing

rose thorn
#

It uses the fact the imperium is ran by the literal worst people in the world works

arctic talon
#

Actually

rocky gale
#

Yea Necromunda is mainly about an Imperial city fighting itself, an AoS version should be the same

arctic talon
#

Just fucking make Mordheim 2 lol

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Are we blind

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Are we stupid

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

We have the answer right there

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lol

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Because I’m blind and stupid

celest dome
#

Mordheim is more like Necromunda Hive Secundous

rose thorn
#

And secundous is great

celest dome
#

But not in a vacuum

rocky gale
#

Noooooo, make Misthåvn the AoS Necromunda

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Do et

celest dome
#

Secundous is great but it build up on Necromunda and the House conflict

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Yeah but Mordheim was like whfb necromunda

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Is my point

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Gameplay wise

#

We have all the bones present for the campaign system

celest dome
#

Gameplay wise yes

opaque coyote
#

By m0pan

celest dome
#

But less so about the broader narrative of it

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Mordhiem too leave space for every faction kicks SoB to the curve

queen laurel
#

We're talking about the age of sigma here

opaque coyote
#

Glory to Sigmar

queen laurel
#

Good

rocky gale
#

But I want Cities of Sigmar infighting simulator

celest dome
#

Necromunda work best when it let the sculptors and artist just do their own thing without needing to follow faction lines

#

For AoS Necromunda to be good

rose thorn
#

You can have different cities hate each other in Mordhiem 2 sigmar boogaloo

celest dome
#

they shoudl do the same thing

rose thorn
#

Literally all of AOS is based off 1 guy’s work

rocky gale
arctic talon
#

Well

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Not all of it

#

It’s mostly Blanche

rose thorn
#

Okay like 80%

rocky gale
#

It's not infighting if it's just two different cities fighting eachother

arctic talon
#

Gona be weird once GW runs out of Blanche concepts

celest dome
#

Servito-Blanche staregryn

rose thorn
#

Rhey seem to be in good hands

#

Just get the underworlds model team doing it

arctic talon
#

Well

#

Blanche also did some of those

rose thorn
#

Oh

#

Eh, 500 more foot heroes

arctic talon
#

Blanche has done every AoS range aside from, some of fyreslayers, Ossiarchs, and Idoneth was done completely without him

rose thorn
#

adn two of those are community beloved for its beauty

arctic talon
#

Yeah fyreslayers are the only miss

rose thorn
#

and uniqueness

arctic talon
#

Lmao

#

Blanche did get the ossiarch ball rolling

rose thorn
#

luckily FS shoudl be getting a major update soon

arctic talon
#

With the legions of nagash shit

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At the end of whfb

#

But the actual rest of the range is independent of that

rose thorn
#

mostly struggles form havieng,,, 4 kits?

arctic talon
#

Aside from the general aesthetic

rose thorn
#

outside of foot heroes fs has like,

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the lizard, normal dudes with axe/shield, the special weapons, adn the warcry warband

arctic talon
#

FS also make the sin

#

Of being ugly

#

And kind of lame for a chunk of the range

rose thorn
#

if it gets like 4 more non hero units it iwll be alot better

#

an armyfo only guardsmen is meh, throw some artillary int here and it looks cooler, throw some tanks int here adn its looking good

#

throw a named hero in there

arctic talon
#

ngl I kind of hope GW redoes them from the ground up

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

i like fs i hope they stay naked angry burning men

arctic talon
#

LOL

#

Reasonable

#

But that’s why I’m not a huge fan of them

rose thorn
#

they portrayed fs as sexy and or badass in teh art and it deos alot to help

#

unlike ogors

rose thorn
#

they do need to repaint all the minis they use for displays

#

because that paintjob does not do them service

#

heres an example

#

then you puit orange guys ina n orange background

#

crazy how all of the art is as blue or green as possible lmao

#

they paint the armor black here

#

whichi s crazy

arctic talon
#

It looks cool

rose thorn
#

telling Gw to never paitn gold again part 504

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

gold looks terrible and they know it

arctic talon
rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Lmao

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

The axe blade

#

Is rather

queen laurel
#

Thank you very much

rose thorn
#

fair

arctic talon
#

But I think gold is fine

rose thorn
#

comapred ot

arctic talon
#

Imo

rose thorn
#

its skin orange and gold

arctic talon
#

I’m ngl the gold is too dull

#

On them

#

It needs to be brighter or not gold

rose thorn
#

oh yeah let me sednt he art

queen laurel
#

Aren't stormcast

#

Like gold

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

Most of the time

arctic talon
#

Lmao

#

There needs to be a balance™

#

lol

rose thorn
#

yeah and they painted stormcasts silver for liek 3 months

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

Tbf

#

It’s a weird mix

#

Between hammers of sigmar and Hallowed Knights

#

As poster children

rose thorn
#

new stormcasts are much duller

arctic talon
#

GW is using the same gold recipe as they use for custodes now

#

Funnily

#

I do like the brighter stormcast gold though

#

Tbh

#

For hammers of sigmar

rose thorn
#

oh i thought people hated the custodies colors

#

WHY DO YOU LOOK LIKE THAT SIR

#

WHAT

#

I dont htink ive ever looked at this mini before

#

why is he a manlet

arctic talon
#

Also custodes are all

rose thorn
#

ah

#

huh

arctic talon
#

Kinda like squattish

#

They’re big

rose thorn
#

ah

arctic talon
#

But like their proportions are a little weird

#

Also GW has changed the custodes gold formula between the 7e and 8e stuff

rose thorn
#

ivel iterally never seen this unit before mlao

#

ive seen uh

near wasp
#

They are perfect

rose thorn
#

this

#

wait

#

half of custodies

#

is hh>

arctic talon
rose thorn
#

WHY IS THERE 3 SHIELD CAPTIAN S

arctic talon
#

Because

#

There just is

#

All 3 have different wargear

#

As well lol

near wasp
#

At least like not like the seven chaos champions

rose thorn
celest dome
#

Cause they treat Custodes fans like SM fans, so they know they can sell multiple of the same unit

arctic talon
#

But yeah the shield captains can be built from the guard or warden kit

rose thorn
#

NUMBER

#

4

arctic talon
#

And then also the independent shield captain lol

#

Oh yeah the resin one

#

I forgot about him

rose thorn
near wasp
rose thorn
#

THERE IS AT ELAST 6 SHIELD CAPTAINS TO MY KNOWLEDGE

arctic talon
#

Tbh

#

This is lore accurate

#

lol

near wasp
#

We need seven more

arctic talon
#

Shield captains are literally any fucking custodes

#

Picked out of a squad

rose thorn
#

oh realy

arctic talon
#

And the other custodes basically go

#

you

#

you’re in charge now

rose thorn
#

thats great lmao

arctic talon
#

Yeah

celest dome
#

Kinda like SM Sergeant KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
#

Custodes don’t use military formations

rose thorn
#

oh because htey fight ont hier own anyway

arctic talon
#

They got vibes based officer ranks

#

lol

rose thorn
#

we stand alone or what ever

arctic talon
#

Custodes fight in a coordinated manner

#

But they aren’t a military organization

#

If that makes sense

#

Like, custodes squads are literally a friend group/clique

rose thorn
#

forgot about number 7 but hes named

#

andneeds a head swap

arctic talon
#

LOL

#

He’s got a helmet

rose thorn
#

thank fuck

arctic talon
#

But yeah custodes groups are basically just like

near wasp
#

Isn't valerian a shield captain

arctic talon
#

Not really proper subfactions

#

At all

rose thorn
near wasp
#

Pretty sure he's also got a model to that's like 8

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

The only proper custodes subgroup is the ones who guard the vault stuff

rose thorn
#

i sent him

arctic talon
rose thorn
#

er- 6

#

dont ask me how i like stormcasts but not custodies

arctic talon
#

The captain general isn’t like okay you guys do this you guys do that

#

Ect.

#

lol

#

It’s a case of like

#

If they really really need to do something

#

They’ll drop what they’re off messing around with/working on and do it

rose thorn
#

lmao

#

the only idea i had for a custodies shield was they were just the emperor's gardeners, they go to specific battlefields just to add plants to his garden

arctic talon
#

Yeah why not lmao

#

It’s the type of shit they’d do lol

storm jungle
#

Thats like

#

extremely on point

#

lmao

rose thorn
#

they got like one of those gardener's yearly books fromthe year HH to 50k and is just fillingit out

storm jungle
#

You can also come up with the excuse of how theres some original terran plant species from the 21st centruy and some after it that was unawares spread to now desolate or imperium settled worlds or hostile planets

rose thorn
#

"dont worry gutys the emperor is gonna do some crazy shit wiht these wild red lavanders"

storm jungle
#

and they gotta go through all that shit to find em

#

can even add some other fluff like how some are hunted because they contain unique biological properties for other uses

rose thorn
#

yee

#

they also just dont give a siht about acutally using it

storm jungle
#

Yeah basically.

rose thorn
#

"oh yeah the cure to cancer plant, straight to the green house"

storm jungle
#

like, one of the OG shieldhosts they provide as an example in the codex literally just does nothing but:

#

go around on bigass ship

rose thorn
#

then the planet gets glassed

storm jungle
#

blow up planets

rose thorn
#

LMAO

storm jungle
#

Yeah the Emperor's Wrath or something

#

lmao

arctic talon
#

Reminder a custodes shield host could be like

#

12 fucking custodes

crisp heath
storm jungle
#

^

arctic talon
#

Their friend Jim a terrawatt clan member

storm jungle
#

it can be like

#

5, 12 or literally hundreds

arctic talon
#

And their sister of silence friends

storm jungle
#

its prob one of the best parts of their lore

arctic talon
#

And that’s the goddamn Shield host lol

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

sisters of scilence are there to hide the garden from like psyker stuff and also because htey keep running into psyker plants

queen laurel
#

Well that's f****** funny

vital ginkgo
#

Is there anything in the makeup of a custodes that would be considered better than what is in the primarchs?

rose thorn
#

king of the hill with cutsodies

vital ginkgo
#

Or space marines

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

yeet

storm jungle
rose thorn
#

oh yeah @arctic talon did i tll you the craftworld idea i came up with

storm jungle
#

thats it really

vital ginkgo
#

Ah ok lol

arctic talon
#

Tbh

#

In terms of like

#

Fighting

vital ginkgo
#

Yeah

rose thorn
#

the new and imrpoved one that like 2 other eldar fnas liked

arctic talon
#

Custodes don’t have weird organs and stuff

arctic talon
#

But custodes are just much more refined then marines

#

Marines are the easybake transhuman killing machine

#

Not that it’s bad

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

They were designed for different things

queen laurel
#

Custodes is basically take a human and bump up the stats

rose thorn
#

they have a tradition aroudn when they come to age they 'marry' an eldar god, which is mostly isha. but theres people who refuse and marry khaine or cegorach or even rarer as of late ynnead

arctic talon
#

Tbh

#

There’s also some dead gods as well they could marry?

#

Or is it just living one’s

rose thorn
#

the dead god i was hitnking baout because of the... chinese tradition?

#

where unwedded daughters who passed are married to living men

#

i cant remmeber if it was chinese or osmething else

#

im not sure if marrying anoteher god besides isha and sometimes khaine would create too much divide

arctic talon
#

It wouldn’t

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

At least someone like a weapon smith or bonesinger marrying Vaul wouldn’t be weird

rose thorn
#

fair point

queen laurel
#

Exactly

queen laurel
#

Did he get eaten

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

Horrific

rose thorn
#

marrying ot khaine is like going and joining the militaryw hen ur 16 and your mildly disliked

#

marrying ceggorach is like "what the fuck is your issue"

#

marrying ynnead is of course literallty joining a cult at 18

#

9/10 cases marrying ceggorach you go and become a harlequin

#

9/10 kahine is your an asepct warrior

#

is marrying a dead god weird?

#

Posthumous marriage tahts it

queen laurel
#

So no

rose thorn
#

that is a GREAT point

#

i did not think about wraiths AT ALL

queen laurel
#

Yeah exactly

rose thorn
#

@arctic talon they will be into marrying dead gods i did not even consider wraiths and stuff

queen laurel
#

Wraith constructs

arctic talon
#

lol

#

Yeah eldar are kinda necromancy adjacent

rose thorn
#

of course theyw ill be okay with that

#

probably means your even closer to your god

queen laurel
#

Marrying into a dead god is not that weird when your piloting a giant robot with your dead brother

rose thorn
#

/ significant other

#

for hte god tihng not for ur message bulgur

queen laurel
#

But yes don't worry about the dead people bit because

Eldar use a lot of dead people

rose thorn
#

"you arent married to your god? do you even believe in them damn"

arctic talon
rose thorn
#

i know iw as correcting my self i meant closer to your god / significant other

#

no clue for the introvert vs

#

extrovert

#

are htey millenial married couples or boomer married couples

rocky gale
#

Gotta think about why people would marry Morai-Heg or Lileath

#

Or like can people not marry Lileath because she's the Maiden

rose thorn
#

in the eldar posthumor god marriage

rose thorn
#

i have no clue

rocky gale
#

and Morai-Heg was god of prophecy, so probably Farseers would marry her

rose thorn
#

by what age do you even know u would be a farseer

#

you can of course divorce your god

#

but thats pretty taboo

#

but allowed

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Hmm yea Morai is Banshees as well as prophecy

rose thorn
#

the politics of the eldar polyamory

queen laurel
opaque coyote
#

Also

On a completely unrelated note

#

Imagine being

#

A PR employee for Gearbox

#

Or even one of the devs for Borderlands 4

#

Imagine working on a game for years, forced to release unoptimized to please shareholders

rose thorn
#

im glad people are pbeign pissed now that most computers cant run new videogames, ive been saying this siht for year s

#

your game should be able to runon at least an xbox 360