40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

It's sad because he does actually have a cool detail

[arctic talon]

he has a cameo in revenge o the fallen

according to the wiki page

LOL

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

He is specifically made that when light shines on him, he actually has a purple reflection

[dapper gyro]

Also, transformer, devolved from plasma weaponry to weapons using brass cases...

[summer mural]

oh yes

lets not talk about the cigar smoking armory guy from age of extinction

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

It was specifically some rusting type of thing

[arctic talon]

what the fuck he was in a bayformers video game

lol

[dapper gyro]

It is so dumb that it stripped all of the rules of cool out of my brain.

[summer mural]

who shockwave?

shockwave is a big deal, hes like a decepticon videogame level boss

[dapper gyro]

Nah, it is everything. The rusting is just when the bots die.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah in lore it's specifically made to cause rusting

The shell is actually a payload to cause that

[dapper gyro]

Shockwave in Armanda was the final boss.

[opaque coyote]

Basically it's the equivalent of a war crime weapon

It's like specifically made to make bots suffer

[dapper gyro]

Actually everything in Armanda are mature as hell.

[opaque coyote]

Armada has the best iteration of Starscream

[summer mural]

also I guess they arent transforming into cybertron vehicles anymore, so if they turn into a tank or a gunship or something they get direct access to ballistic weaponry

[dapper gyro]

Armada has the best megatron for me.

[opaque coyote]

It's neat to see an iteration that differs from the coward archetype

[dapper gyro]

Armada is top tier.

[opaque coyote]

Also has an interesting arc

[opaque coyote]

I just ignore the sequel series

Kinda ruins it

[arctic talon]

I like shockwaves design in transformers prime

[dapper gyro]

The 1st one is ok, the 2nd sequel is... beyond shit.

[arctic talon]

The giant fucking arm cannon over like

the tiny gun is cool

[summer mural]

what the wildest vehicles they turn into

theres that rampage guy who turns into an excavation truck

[opaque coyote]

Megatron G1 turns into a fucking Luger

Like the gun is specifically a German Luger

[arctic talon]

thats normal

tbh

I think any vehicle that can move on its own is pretty normal

[summer mural]

theres soundwave, who in the movie was basically plugged into a satellite

[opaque coyote]

Sound wave used to turn into a boom box

His mini bots were cassette tapes

[dapper gyro]

There is a bot that takes form of a destroyer warship.

I don't remember which series.

[summer mural]

there is a tank deception, devastator I think his name was

[arctic talon]

Idk the satellite isn't that weird?

There's like

a lot of tank decepticons lol

[summer mural]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

One time Starscream accidentally possessed a little girl

[summer mural]

true

[opaque coyote]

God dammit Japan

[arctic talon]

I'm not even a big like

transformers person

[dapper gyro]

... I don't even bother to ask.

[opaque coyote]

Good

[summer mural]

is there anyone that turns into an apache gunship lol

[dapper gyro]

Also, that Transformer 2 college chick bot... ok... calm your dick down.

[opaque coyote]

Actually based off of an old cartoon

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/escape-from-the-city-sa2-waffle-gif-3551076

[opaque coyote]

Where the transformers had human disguises

[dapper gyro]

I know, but still...

[summer mural]

oh yeah theres all the dinobots

[nocturne crest]

If the Imperial guard were to get a new vehicle that had "Sanguinius" as part of the name, what would anyone expect it to be?

[opaque coyote]

I think it even had the same name as said disguise

[summer mural]

a gunship

[opaque coyote]

Honestly if it wasn't for the fact that it is like

[arctic talon]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Divebomb_(Classics)#Toys

[summer mural]

divebomb

[arctic talon]

I found this with googling

[opaque coyote]

A "sexy" college girl disguise

Genuinely

[arctic talon]

autobot

funnily enough

[summer mural]

divebomb lol

[opaque coyote]

I actually find the idea to be worth looking into

And also disturbing

[arctic talon]

Flyer

gunship or armed transport

[opaque coyote]

Like a decepticon makes a mini bot that disguises itself as a human

[summer mural]

oh yeah theres also the manimals

[opaque coyote]

Has a real skin layer like

Terminator style

And once it transforms, the skin gets ripped apart

As blood splatters all around

[nocturne crest]

Wasn't that from the second movie?

[opaque coyote]

Yup

Also usually the decepticons don't care about humans

Usually want to genocide them

That is consistent

[summer mural]

dont we all

[opaque coyote]

So I can imagine like

Sleeper agent type of shit

Like imagine if multiple decepticon human disguised robots were just around

[summer mural]

yes, a deception genestealer

[opaque coyote]

As soon as they get the signal

They start just fucking murdering people

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, so you might be interested in Pretenders.

[opaque coyote]

Related

https://youtu.be/VC9B5ytTOUY?si=as5JlBTmNN3wVC3u

[summer mural]

a-10 warthog decepticon

https://tenor.com/view/a10warthog-plane-brr-gif-27117334

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sUEyjZ4zU

[summer mural]

also I bet theres a submarine transformer

probably a uboat one too

[nocturne crest]

There's a whale transformers.

[summer mural]

yeah ofc

whales.

[summer mural]

also I remember why I used to like hotrod

because he actually turned into a muscle car lol

[opaque coyote]

I always find it funny in general rhat

Transformers started as just an excuse to sell toys

It still is

But now that excuse is a Greek mythology style tragedy

[summer mural]

also theres a transformer named cosmos who turns into a -UFO

[opaque coyote]

Except without all the sexual assault

Two friends who wanted to change the world

Who then went into opposing sides on the methods

As one falls, the other rises

But it's quite lonely on the top

Quite lonely indeed

I think my favorite iteration of the Cybertron backstory is actually Prime.

Like Transformers One is great. Second favorite.

But Prime has that added political complexity

[vital ginkgo]

Are there any guilliman chapters that we know of that recognize the emperor as a god?

[nocturne crest]

Fire angels.

[vital ginkgo]

Nice

I'll check them out thanks

[opaque coyote]

This part is a hot take.

But I like how Optimus and Megatron always had a different starting PoV

In the Prime backstory, Optimus started out as a librarian

[summer mural]

transformers lore is hilarious lol, apparently the fallens real name was Megatronus Prime

[opaque coyote]

While Megatron was a gladiator. Forced to fight in the slave pits

[nocturne crest]

This guy kind of looks like a Genestealer.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

TF: One doesn't have megatronus be a fallen (as far as we know)

But he does have a unique looking core

Compared to the rest of the primes

Purple

Megatronus was always manipulated by Omicron

Aka Transformer Satan

Actually that's an understatement

The actual embodiment of evil

Like

Omicron is literally just evil incarnate

It's similar to how Khorne works

[summer mural]

also I thought sentinel looked like the ancient aged prime, but alpha trion takes the cake lol

[opaque coyote]

Alpha Trion is always the chad

All those clanker bitches hear

"10 feet"

They immediately yell out

"Alpha Trion!"

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if they have the balls to use Shadowplay in the films.

[opaque coyote]

Unless if we get an M rated

Probably not

Like it's basically a lobotomy

Although I think it's actually based off of the G1 cartoon

The reason why the decepticons even have members is because Megatron has a robot that brainwashes people to join him

[nocturne crest]

There also the other one, where they remove your faces and arms as a punishment.

[opaque coyote]

Like I said, G1 Megatron is literally just an evil dumbass

I enjoy him because of that tbh

I also like Galvatron because he is literally insane. And Frank Weller is just

A joy

To listen to

https://youtu.be/HvWnF1Iggfc?si=txKJGjk3mxHTpn1V

"WHO DISTURBS MY PLASMA BATH??"

[nocturne crest]

He built a gun in while in a theory session.

[opaque coyote]

"MY EMPIRE OF ASH? MY BASTION OF BRIMSTONE? MY KINGDOM OF DESOLATION?? DID I ASK YOU FOR DELIVERANCE??? DID I????"

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it was in the shape of his old transformation. So it was actually having a positive effect in bringing him back.

[near wasp]

Isn't sound wave like one of the most evil characters?

[opaque coyote]

It's just that he was always a piece of shit

[opaque coyote]

Nah Shockwave

[near wasp]

Ok can you blame me for confusing those two

[opaque coyote]

Nope

I do so too dw

But yeah Shockwave is just

[summer mural]

shockwave is a brutal killer

[opaque coyote]

He has zero empathy

Literally none

Like Megatron needs to have a reason

Except G1

But Shockwave does it cause it's fun and logical

He's basically if Unit 731 was

One robot

[opaque coyote]

"Yes. Indeed. Stabbing a cybertronian in the neck kills them. But what about the spark? More testing is needed."

[summer mural]

is illuminor actually his name

or is that a title

[near wasp]

Fuck that image goes hard

[nocturne crest]

Classic cover.

[opaque coyote]

Nope, was always Shockwave

[summer mural]

no

szeras

[opaque coyote]

He was actually something rare before he got lobotomized.

[summer mural]

a baby buffalo?

[opaque coyote]

A not shitty politician.

Yeah he originally was a good person.

And then he literally got lobotmized

And his personality forcefully changed

[summer mural]

szeras got lobotomized?

[opaque coyote]

Like both at the same time

He was a senator to be specific

Senator Shockwave

Like this was his head before he got lobotomized basically

[near wasp]

Bro y'all are talking about two different characters

[nocturne crest]

Same thing happened to Whirl.

[opaque coyote]

Basically he got lobotmized because he was actually trying to change the system

He spoke out too much against the senate

[summer mural]

deserved

imagine speaking out against the senate.

the SHEER AUDACITY

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-am-the-senate-gif-10270130

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

It's actually quite fucked up

Imagine both having your emotions taken away

And your personality inverted

You go from a passionate person that wants to change the oncoming awful system

[summer mural]

itd be truly sad if he had a nice happy name before that tbh, like....rainbow wave or something idk

[opaque coyote]

To somebody who is emotionless and cruel

[opaque coyote]

I think shockwave was named that because of his speeches originally

Sending shockwaves through the populus

Making and inviting positive change

The last remnant of his old self

[summer mural]

how are they made anyway

in a cybertron factory?

is there a nurse bot that makes sure they cry after coming off the assembly line?

[opaque coyote]

Asexually.

The sparks essentially act as their soul. Their bodies forged by the planet itself with living metal. With Primus making and sending out new sparks/souls.

However earlier versions just have them be assembled.

Some continuities can have them sexually reproduce. But the vast majority don't do this

And even then, the evidence for this is dubious.

But the concept does exist within their society along with family structures.

Like having a brother, sister, parents, etc.

Either way, the method is usually asexual

And also highly dependant on the continuities

[summer mural]

so are the peasant bots called transfarmers

[opaque coyote]

Like I said

Unusual

But can happen

Also wild

[opaque coyote]

ba dum tss

Jokes aside, under Functionism, they are called Disposable Class

...

Yeah I think you can see why Megatron made the decepticons lol

Basically if you were unlucky enough to have a common transformation

Such as say a memory stick

You would be considered disposable

Fodder

Slaves

They were given low quality energon and were treated as mindless

Barely even sentient

A system that depends entirely on what transformation you have

A truck is considered valuable because it can do a lot of things

Law enforcement, carrying, etc.

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/dctvcinema_/status/1966130147825955265

DC ✯| (@dctvcinema_)

PEACEMAKER
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[opaque coyote]

Peacemaker

What a joke...

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though that is a long ass barrel

Bugs Bunny Looney Tunes looking ass

https://tenor.com/view/yosemite-sam-looney-tunes-firing-gun-gif-16227833

[tight stratus]

Okay when I was looking for priestly/catholic/religious based priest faction for Warhammer how did no one suggest this to me?

[opaque coyote]

Because every imperium faction is religious based

the imperium is religious based in general

[tight stratus]

Aesthetically I wanted them to look priestly/like monks/like religious people

not just in lore do they worship or their belief system

[opaque coyote]

I mean technically the Ecclesiarchy is the church

So if they suggested Sisters

That counts

Since they are a part of the Ecclesiarchy

Just a separate branch

[tight stratus]

Yeah friend just said its part of the sisters

[opaque coyote]

more like vice versa

[tight stratus]

Admech just dont quite cut it for me when that was suggested to me

[opaque coyote]

tbf their entire religion literally has a version of the Trinity

The Omnissiah (The Son)
The Motive Force (The Holy Spirit)
and The Machine God (The Father)

The Emperor is considered the Omnissiah.

But yeah the Ecclesiarchy is generally the most Catholic based

[opaque coyote]

The Sisters even use flying Cathedrals

That drop from the sky

also acts as a moving fortress

[near wasp]

It's pretty othordox inspired given the amount of bones in reliquarys

[opaque coyote]

True

Eh just

Christian?

Christian

[near wasp]

It's a huge mix of religions

[opaque coyote]

cause I think it's mainly a mix of protestant and catholic

[tight stratus]

It doesnt have to be specifically catholic to be fair, a better word for it was there needed to be heavy religious imagery. I'd of taken buddahism with emphasis on beads, fat bald looking people and ornate robes if that also exsists

[opaque coyote]

They got the attitude of Mother Teresa

"The sick must suffer like Christ on the cross"

[opaque coyote]

that's just monks in general tbh

[near wasp]

I should make a space Marine chapter that recruits from an agriworld and makes cheese, should be a blood angels sucessor

[storm jungle]

Chese in the blood 🫡

[near wasp]

Probably make cheese and wine since monks were famous for it

Blood in the wine

Standard blood angel thing

[tight stratus]

what stupid belt buckle

[near wasp]

He has a lovely cod peice

[storm jungle]

Goofy ass chastity vows

also the titty missiles.... I never saw those on the new model 💀

bro the grey knights are cursed

[lament shoal]

His virginity is intact

[storm jungle]

Not if I have anything to say about it

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-mgs-2-snake-scared-turning-gif-12085753621535732280

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/shalashaska-mynameisadam-vivethemodder-meow-ocelot-gif-16557993466597018410

[storm jungle]

Lmfao bruh

[median star]

centurions also have them

[storm jungle]

Theirs are on the sides

this is literally right on the nips

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-cat-ai-cat-cat-ai-monkey-steals-cat-hair-gif-16280488597587939992

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/77176186148499456/1221682373834444923/catdemolyst.gif

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[left talon]

https://tenor.com/view/18carat-run-bad-luck-truth-is-game-was-rigged-fallout-gif-14316707

[nocturne crest]

This will be in a combat patrol next year.

[nocturne crest]

I thought they might be grenades.

[hallow plover]

The gyatt was rizzed from the start no cap

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/VALC_6/status/1966477678149517729

ValC (@VALC_6)

Dwarfcels will post shit like this, and then their follows are 90% OnlySerfs models with suspiciously long ears

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[lament shoal]

My assessment? UMGAK!

[opaque coyote]

It turns out that the dwarf forgot his glasses

And the person he gave the penalty to was actually a tall human

Also on an unrelated note

Dungeon Meshi actually gave an alternative name to humans that I think is neat

"Tall-men"

Literally just tall men

I think it's neat in terms of like

Staying consistent with the rest of the names

[storm jungle]

Never ask a dwarf user the race of his gf

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Thank you imperium maladictum

[storm jungle]

Im currently going through all the books

I FINALLY found an HD jokaero artwork from Xenology in it

time to update the shitty image on lexi

[arctic talon]

The how much do people know the inqusition is around chart is really good tbh

To counter the whole

Flash rosette issue lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah its entirely why i posted it here lmao

im glad when modern rulebooks like this outright state the thing

I love fantasy-flight but if this was them you'd get like 4 pages explaining it all when sometimes all it needs is a simple box of text

[arctic talon]

FFG giving you vague statements as to what should happen if your players are flashing the badge too much

💀

[rose thorn]

cant beleive 40k accidentally leaked thier own fucking patch

whats going on with 40k's security

[arctic talon]

GW forgor

[dapper gyro]

Not enough servitors

[rose thorn]

average 40k leak vs average aos leak

[opaque coyote]

"You might have limitless governmental power.

But I have a gun."

[arctic talon]

Mfw you flash the badge too much and now everyone and their mother knows the inqusition is around

Drukhari codex leaked

Lol

GW went the nuclear option for fixing the army

buffed pretty much every profile in the ENTIRE ARMY

along with giving every single unit an additional power from pain bonus

lol

malys sheet

[dapper gyro]

Among the key words, "balance" is not one of them.

[arctic talon]

the funny thing is the codex is probably going to be balanced still

Drukhari are in such a sorry state rn even with all these changes in the dex they won't be that much stronger imo

I don't think they're gona be broken

They lost 2 of their big heavy hitters

in the current index, which are Grotesques and Court of the Archon

the strong stuff didn't get stronger

They've pretty much only buffed the weak stuff

(which is most of the fucking army)

Power from pain got nerfed but it also has all the new power from pain effects per unit

Drukhari are still jumping through hoops to do stuff that (most) other armies get for free

[radiant lance]

Are the primarchs/emperor gay? All they do it put their seed into other guys

[opaque coyote]

yes

[near wasp]

I mean when you know the feds are around the corner your gonna brace

[opaque coyote]

A primary Fox News host just suggested we essentially euthanize any homeless person that doesn't accept whatever help that is offered them.

Involuntarily lethal injection to be preicse.

Because clearly, we need to murder people in the streets because they're an inconvenience

[queen laurel]

that's well not good and I'm not gonna say anything else because literally what the hell

[opaque coyote]

Literally the T4 euthanasia program from Nazi Germany.

[unique bronze]

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

It's specifically Kilmeade btw

[unique bronze]

Why wouldn't they want help in the first place tho

[opaque coyote]

Cause the trump administration also made it illegal to be homeless

and that you can get dragged to a facility

for "help"

It isn't actual help if you can't fucking tell

[unique bronze]

Ahh, so like in US? am like way out here in the far east

[opaque coyote]

yup

In the USA

1st world country baby

Can't wait for ICE to become the Bootleg Arbites

Who are already a bootleg of the Judges anyways

A bootleg bootleg

[crisp heath]

They allready are

[sacred ginkgo]

Fake bane of the homeless

[sonic knot]

wtf hes impersonating me

[misty vector]

Thought they hated cancel culture

[lament shoal]

Hypothetically can any melee weapon be turned into a force weapon?

[arctic talon]

No, but a Psyker can empower any melee weapon with psychic energy

A imperial force weapon specifically has crystals and other tech in it which allows the Psyker to channel their power through it more safely, easily and effectively

[lament shoal]

How long would a psyker be able to do this?

[arctic talon]

Uhhh

It depends

Pyromancers can make it covered in fire

You can just “wrap” it in raw psychic energy or make warp crystals grow from it

Ect.

It’s just channeling your power

Force weapons basically always make an energy field form around it powered by your psychic energy

[lament shoal]

Gotcha, ty

Thinking about giving my homebrew chapter master a necron phaseblade he uses in that manner

[queen laurel]

Can't you just like say literally just apply Force tech into a flail and turn that into a force flail

[dapper gyro]

Yes

Anything can be really.

They can make a force shovel if they want to.

[celest dome]

Yes force weapon exist in any Mundane melee weapon type

As per Only war

[celest dome]

@lament shoal @arctic talon

[crisp heath]

Why would u highlight the book 😭

I hope it's a copy

[celest dome]

I'll highlight as I damn please

[crisp heath]

I bet all your books look like study books

[crystal forum]

jokes him i'm unemployed and a depraved homosexual

[celest dome]

Nah, I never put highlighter on pages, but some of my old study books are full of post-it notes

[crisp heath]

I just imagined you throwing a bucket of neon paint at me

I like looking after my stuff tbh

[crystal forum]

i put the little post its in my books to highlight cool lore

[crisp heath]

I don't even like bending the spine on books

[crystal forum]

but i dont read anymore so i cannot highlight audio

[valid needle]

Audiobooks > books

There I said it

Hate me if you want

[celest dome]

Personal preferences

[crystal forum]

i gotta memorize all the audio since there's no way i'm digging to find audio

unlike books

[queen laurel]

Oh my God bro cannot read codex's unless it's on audiobooks

[crystal forum]

and i cant do cool stuff like this

[valid needle]

As daddy Dorn and eldest brother sigi da goat intended

[dapper gyro]

Me listening to weapon spec for 24h...

[celest dome]

But I prefer books, but Kindle are so useful when you don't live in an english country and in the butt end of the country side

[valid needle]

Idk I just get more immersed in audio books

[crystal forum]

butt kindle

[queen laurel]

i'm a mix of audiobook and books

[valid needle]

Putting a proper voice to the characters etc

[queen laurel]

i could go audiobook if i feel like or if I just want to read I just want to read

i am not bound to the same weaknesses

[crystal forum]

butt kindle

[queen laurel]

For I am both

[crystal forum]

aw

[celest dome]

I corrected the wrong but/butt

[crystal forum]

it was the correct butt

[valid needle]

I like books for the pictures/art

[celest dome]

At 1st it was 2 but.
But then I corrected one to butt but it was the wrong but butt

[crystal forum]

i can eat book pages unlike audio

[valid needle]

Use the codex astartes as rolling paper

[crystal forum]

i shall smash my homunculuses with my leviathan book

[crystal forum]

the resurgence of dexter really is just people thirsting for doakes

[valid needle]

Can you blame them

[crystal forum]

yes

dexter is objectively cuter

[valid needle]

Although

Brian moser > Dexter > doakes

[celest dome]

But what about Angel

[valid needle]

Harry 4th

Angel 5th

Granddaddy Morgan got that dawg in him

[crisp heath]

I feel like audio books are harder to hold the info

Books it's easier to know what's going on

Well for me

I zone out to talking

[crystal forum]

angel is shlubby

a little gross

physically speaking

[crisp heath]

I still can't get over the

[crystal forum]

not many cute people in that show huh

[dapper gyro]

If you want to analyze the book, reading is better imo. If you only want to know the overall, audio saves time.

[crisp heath]

Surprise motha fucka

[crystal forum]

now for the better rating: breaking bad

[dapper gyro]

If you want me to cite a quote... Audio books won't make it.

[crisp heath]

The new show looks good

[crystal forum]

because my brain always compared dexter to breaking bad (one is objectively better)

[crisp heath]

About Kim wexler

Breaking bad way better lol

But I still stand by sopranos being the best show we have ever had

[crystal forum]

which?

[valid needle]

Hank.

[crystal forum]

do you mean better call saul

[crisp heath]

The new show he's working on

[crystal forum]

damn i didn't know that

[crisp heath]

Its gonna be a comedy romance

Yah

Gonna be good

Vince does everything great

[crystal forum]

we'll see

[crisp heath]

He hasn't missed yet

[crystal forum]

i dont see where he could bring the series anywhere

[crisp heath]

Tbh

He gets better imo

[crystal forum]

the show has been milked pretty dry

[crisp heath]

I liked Better call Saul more than bb

We got to meet Hector and his nana

[crystal forum]

i think the show is a little slow

[crisp heath]

It is yeah

[crystal forum]

breaking bad is interesting in how unexpected it became

[crisp heath]

Also the old lady's thing w him was super funny

Breaking bad was very raw .

[crystal forum]

but breaking bad just always had something going on

never a dead moment

one plot point immediately lead to the next

[crisp heath]

For alot of people it was to realistic

Same issue as the wire

To damn tragic

[crystal forum]

the wire's acting just didn't compare to BB

[crisp heath]

Shiiiiet

The wire was good

But I couldn't watch it again

It's too damn sad

[crystal forum]

i feel like BB was a continuation of those 90's crime shows

it's like it perfected them

[crisp heath]

It's the most realistic drug show mb the pusher series comes close

[crystal forum]

i compare BB more to sopranos tbh

[crisp heath]

Pusher was another good one but damn it makes you feel disgusting

[crystal forum]

it feels like it took the fucked up main character and ran wild with it

[shadow plover]

BB being as good it was then having an even better spin off series is wild, but a lot less people watched it

[crisp heath]

I love when people realise Tony's a asshole

[crystal forum]

i thought better call saul was more popular than BB

[shadow plover]

(I've not finished the last season either yet)

[crisp heath]

Usually people root for him till about half way through

[crystal forum]

is it not clear in the first episode?

[shadow plover]

it was rated better but less people watched it and it had less of a cultural impact

[crisp heath]

The shows about how sociopaths can't be put in therapy

It enables them

[crystal forum]

the last season is fucking wild

[crisp heath]

What we talking ?

[crystal forum]

i also took a long time to watch it

for better call saul

[crisp heath]

Loved that show

Last season is fkn wild yeah

💀

[crystal forum]

it came out and i had to psyche myself up for a long time to watch the last season

very worth it

[crisp heath]

Lalo is my fav

He's so unhinged

Lalo and Hector and them

Oh Mike ermantrout also

A show about Mike as a cop would go so hard

[crystal forum]

there's just two episodes i cant watch

the one where jimmy's friend dies and the one with the german

every time i rewatch the show i cant bring myself to do it

[crisp heath]

They do death really well on all his shows

He knows how to write

Like the bit on bb with the kid

[crystal forum]

the german really hit deep

[crisp heath]

That is so realistic

[crystal forum]

but that might be because the first time i watched it i was demolished on edibles with the first person to break my heart

[crisp heath]

Well that's probably it haha

[crystal forum]

ever feel like your bones are made of glass

man

[crisp heath]

Man I need to get some more edibles actually , my lungs are starting to get fucked

[crystal forum]

i hate the effect of edibles

[crisp heath]

Why do u take them

[crystal forum]

feels like im going insane

i dont wanna smoke as much

[crisp heath]

I miss when weed was chill

[crystal forum]

my lungs are also clogged up

[crisp heath]

Now it's fucking anxiety incarenet

[crystal forum]

been trying to run lately and feels like im out of breath immediately

[crisp heath]

I got a script too so the stuff I get is strong as heck 💀

Yeah , dw it comes back if we stop for a Long time

[crystal forum]

ye i don't smoke cigs thankfully

[crisp heath]

Oof 💀

I smoke

[crystal forum]

i never see the point

doesnt feel good at all

[crisp heath]

I been doing it for like 20 years , very hard to stop

[raven stone]

I was just brought up to stay away from anything drugs related (this being HK...anything you need on medical level is strictly prescription only)

[crisp heath]

I smoke to avoid taking prescription meds

Those are actually addictive

It helps w my nerve pain

[raven stone]

Smoking is slightly different

[crisp heath]

Oh I mean weed

[crystal forum]

painkillers are fucked yeah

[crisp heath]

My bad

[crystal forum]

opioids are evil incarnate

that's how jessie's hot girlfriend dies!

i'll just stick to weed and prescription amphetamines

the disco elysium breakfast

[crisp heath]

[rocky gale]

Wasn't that heroin?

Or a gunshot, depending on which one we're talking about

[crisp heath]

That was heroin yeah

[rocky gale]

I love it so much

[crisp heath]

I do gotta admit the new dark Eldar are pretty damn cool

I had warriors from 3rd e

That set w the tenplars against the drukhari

[lament shoal]

Ty

[celest dome]

[rocky gale]

After reading as much of the Drukhari codex as I could find, I'm pretty damn happy.

Seems like everything either got upgraded or sidegraded, so they're either better than they were before or about the same but more engaging/fun.

[crisp heath]

Always loved the pirate aesthetic

[woven plank]

I have arrived

With a question

Are agriculture worlds more of the better worlds in Warhammer 40k

Unlike forge worlds or hive cities

[celest dome]

Nah

They're mono culture planets

So you have whole worlds that are just meant to grow corn

And those mono cultures need a lot of supplement which are just tainting the air and water of the world

[queen laurel]

Would you like to ask the question again

[woven plank]

Oh

[woven plank]

So why is everything so green in Darktide when I choose the agriworld

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer-40k-darktide/images/c/c7/Darktide_Rocyria.png/revision/latest?cb=20240423004749

[celest dome]

Radioactive green though

[crisp heath]

Same color as your highlighter

[celest dome]

My highlighter is blue

[queen laurel]

it's a small agri world

probably the operation hasn't completely corrupted the planet yet

But trust me once it gets going faster and faster that thing is gonna look like new york

[crisp heath]

I was trying to make joke

How many planets in the 41st millennium have these overnight like advances in tech

[green loom]

It's misleading, the "good" worlds(and I use that term VERY loosely since they're still imperial and subject to all the nightmares THAT brings) are tiny fringe colonies who have an easy time with the tithe

[summer mural]

Ultramar worlds seem the best, if you exclude the massive tyranid and nurgle invasions

[green loom]

It's still also mostly the same as the wider imperium

Just more marble and nobility

[woven plank]

So technically

What is the best resource based world to live in

[green loom]

None of them

They're all about as bad as eachother

[vagrant fox]

The best thing you can be is to be a noble and you'll live comfortably

[queen laurel]

none

[vagrant fox]

maybe not even then, depending

[green loom]

Not the same kind of bad though, they'll all have their unique flavour of exploitation nightmare

[celest dome]

Sea worlds might be the best imo

[woven plank]

Is Birmingham a good place to live in

[celest dome]

Nah

[woven plank]

Where all the seamen are at

[celest dome]

It's one of the worst planet iirc

[rocky gale]

Oh thought you meant like actual Birmingham

[queen laurel]

you want to live in that

[woven plank]

Then again what’s the difference

[queen laurel]

Oops sorry sig

[queen laurel]

the one in space Has no sunlight

and is very backwards

[woven plank]

Much like Birmingham

[woven plank]

Honestly Britain has no sunlight so there isn’t any difference between Birmingham and Birmingham

As far as I see

[tough haven]

I’m trying to come up with a personal struggle for a sister of battle character that would cause her to hate xenos more than usual

I thought something along the lines of maybe she trusted a xenos, or let one live once and it cost her dearly

[tough haven]

Specifically Aeldari

[celest dome]

Dark Eldar raided her home planet when she was a child

Since then she hate all the Eldar

As she doesn't truly know who raided

[wintry scarab]

Did the guy that made astartes say that the retributors are an imperial fists successor or did i just make this up?

[shadow plover]

you might've made that up

no

actually

you didn't

he did say that on patreon

[tough haven]

Already did that bit for another character

[green loom]

She just really hates anyone that looks different and the pointy ears specifically set her off

[wintry scarab]

You sure? Thats what i thought but i cant find anything about it. And the wikis say "Unknown founding"

[queen laurel]

she lost to them BADLY

[shadow plover]

there ya go

also here's the write up

[wintry scarab]

Ive just realized i misunderstood the meaning of "founding" nvm lol

[storm jungle]

This is correct yeah

its not really ""canon"" atm until said so by GW, this is still the original part of his homebrew.

[storm jungle]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkAndTroubledPast

Take a read through these

[celest dome]

As a child born on a planet that worshipped Eldar, then the Imperium came, and put them into the Scholla or something and on track to become a Sister.
And they belive that the Eldars tried to trick them and their families

[tough haven]

Ooh that’s good

[ornate estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-dawn-of-war-scum-xeno-purge-gif-14273119

[raven stone]

Oh hey

GW debuffed Imperial Agents again

Inquisitors cannot lead the current Deathwatch teams for now

Probably trying to upgrade for the Primaris DW release

[valid needle]

Is it even possible for sisters to hate xenos more?

Sisters are even more zealous than BT

Maybe not BT but definitely Hospitaller level at least

[crisp heath]

I was gonna say

I do find it funny how the sisters are kinda psychopaths tho

They are not cute girly girls lol

[valid needle]

All the coolest factions usually are

[raven stone]

Your Sister was an orphan who had to watch her parents being brutally murdered by Orks. Then, the first convent that adopted her (or she was assigned to and feels kinship with) was captured and tortured by Drukhari

[valid needle]

Of course not that’s just meme lore

[crisp heath]

Oh lord , the memes have gotten to me too

[crisp heath]

Thats a really angry looking da

[raven stone]

I mean, TBF. Tragic backgrounds are tragic backgrounds.

But yes. The only way a Sister of Battle would look "cute" is if you happen to commission 40k art done in anime style

In any other format of art

They are tough and hardened women

[crisp heath]

I always imagined them to be as cold as astartes and to be as rough looking

Like covered in scars

[raven stone]

Correct!

[crisp heath]

Holy snap I got something right!!1!

[raven stone]

In fact, whilst I haven't met anyone doing so, if someone rocked up to me with Sisters miniatures but run a Marine list

So long as they are clear about what is what

I would be absolutely fine with it

[valid needle]

Oh they are

They hate Astartes

[raven stone]

Sisters are about as close as one could get to female Space Marines without a certain segment of the fanbase dying fron aneurysm

[valid needle]

Except BT really but that’s only because BT match their zealousness for big e being a god and what not.

[crisp heath]

I would prefer female marines

[valid needle]

They mostly view Astartes as mutants

[crisp heath]

Probably get more done

Less bitching

[raven stone]

Don't let certain nut jobs hear that, they will rip you a real one (sadly)

[crisp heath]

I dont think people realise how string woman actually are

[valid needle]

Tbf astartes are mutants though so sisters have a point

[raven stone]

Part and parcel of 40k's ironic background

[crisp heath]

Glad these people are not here tbh

[raven stone]

Indeed

They are probably busy whining elsewhere, and they aren't exactly great at self control when in here lol

[crisp heath]

I'm just stupid if you explain things to me I will usually agree , sometimes I will die on the hill I make tho but

[raven stone]

Being able to adjust to new information is already miles apart lol

[crisp heath]

A good example is when I thought terminus decree was bad writing

I didn't realise they wernt gonna kill him

They would just put him back in his booster seat

[valid needle]

40K is built on contradictions, irony etc. it could be a side effect of lore being written by dozens of different writers but because it’s so ingrained I don’t think so.

[crisp heath]

Usually I have been told misinfo sadly

[valid needle]

People were spreading that misinformation, like no lol why would the emperor or malcador order them to kill him.

[crisp heath]

I'm just going off what i think is cannon 💀

And sadly I'm way too trusting 💀

[valid needle]

The terminus decree is more about preventing him from becoming the dark king, imo.

[crisp heath]

Yah

Literally

Stop him becoming a choas god

[valid needle]

And people say grey knights will need to fight space marines, sisters, custodes and the primarchs

Like no

If guilliman knows what’s going on he will most likely side with the grey knights

[crisp heath]

I kinda wanted the knights to win but that's just so the imperium stans would shut up for a bit lmao

[crisp heath]

Probably

[unique bronze]

I thought the Terminus decree was for when they need to put Big E back on the golden throne

[crisp heath]

I'm tired of hearing the imperium can do no wrong

[valid needle]

Lion idk maybe not but he is still logical at the end of the day and so he probably will want to stop terra exploding and his dad becoming the 5th chaos god. Custodes will most likely know of the decree but because they are gene coded to never disobey or harm him they may fight back against guilliman if the emperor awakens and isn’t the emperor but is becoming the dark king.

[crisp heath]

It's so annoying

The whole point of the Imperium is to show how bad things are isn't it?

Show the superstitious and the ignorance

[vagrant fox]

The Imperium sucks huge ass and are way evil and that's why I love them

[crisp heath]

Hell yeah

[valid needle]

The problem is, there’s only a select few who knows that the emperor could possibly not actually be THE emperor we know. So because that’s such a lesser known thing in lore it’s really a lesser known thing in the community. Everyone thinks of he will regenerate and return as he was. No, he will regenerate and MIGHT return as was but there’s a big possibility the thing that regenerates is no longer the emperor. And either way Terra explodes, mars explodes, mechanicus is gone, astronomicon goes out. Webway falls and daemons flood through.

[crisp heath]

Wait waaa

That isn't our big e

Who the hell is it

[valid needle]

Well

It is

[crisp heath]

Oh is this a theory

[valid needle]

But I more meant the emperor that we know

[vagrant fox]

10k years in the torment nexus probably changes a person drastically

[crisp heath]

Actually yeah

Isn't he kinda nuts

[valid needle]

No there is actually a chance he regenerates into the dark king the 5th chaos god

[crisp heath]

Especially when He talked to gman

Gorilla suit gumboot

[vagrant fox]

His psyche is shattered and all over the place and he had to put a lot of effort into coalescing it into one mind

[valid needle]

Either the emperor will regenerate as the emperor we know or he regenerates into a more super evil god, of chaos.

[vagrant fox]

even then it wasn't quite all there

[crisp heath]

I'm hoping for the later, 40k end times sounds so hecking awesome

[valid needle]

A shard of him even speaks to the psyker in Darktide lmao

[tough haven]

Now I need a conflict for a Reborn Aeldari Corsair that’s forced to work with said sister of battle

[crisp heath]

All the astartes go to war against each other due to differences in opinion

Meanwhile the promarchs are just Like wtf

[valid needle]

But either way if he returns as normal emperor or chaos god emperor, Terra, mars and Luna still explode, the astronomicon still goes out, the webway still breaks down and daemons still flood through.

[crisp heath]

Oh is this if he's taken off the throne

[valid needle]

Yes

[unique bronze]

Or just dies

[valid needle]

Either or

[crisp heath]

So he's kinda the glue holding together terra rn 💀

[valid needle]

He can only regenerate if he’s off the throne

[unique bronze]

Wasnt there mentions that the golden throne is just degrading as well

[valid needle]

Yes

It’s failing

[crisp heath]

Got a catch 22 here lol

[vagrant fox]

Yea it's breaking down

[valid needle]

And has 100 years left

[unique bronze]

So the eventuallity of just things going to shit will happen anyway

[valid needle]

That’s when warhammer 50k drops frfr

[crisp heath]

Take him iff to fix him and everything falls apart or leave him on to slowly lose his soul and humanity

Jfc

It's so over for humans

AND ITS OUR FAULT

[unique bronze]

I mean he'll reincarnate, but everything else would just be fucked

[vagrant fox]

It's fine, the Starchild is going to fix everything trust

[crisp heath]

Ooo

[valid needle]

Not really

[crisp heath]

I heard about starchild

Warp big e or something

[unique bronze]

I kinda thought the Terminus was some sort of doomsday plan, for like what they can do when everything is all to hell

[valid needle]

Chaos had its sights on humanity either way, with or without the imperium, humanity falls to chaos or death eventually.

[crisp heath]

Well kinda sorta

I think if he never made that deal chaos wouldn't be pissed

[unique bronze]

Pretty interesting concept by GW honestly, there's some mentions that some people have had visions of a child but it wasnt directly entail that is it the startchild

but its there somewhere

[valid needle]

They would because they wanted to take over humanity that’s why they made the deal.

[crisp heath]

The one that made him powerful and that allowed him to create his sons

[valid needle]

If they hadn’t already planned to take over humanity why would they make a deal

[crisp heath]

I thought chaos doesn't want to end humanity

They like the struggle

[unique bronze]

Didn't he like betray them tho

[crisp heath]

They would like to keep it going

[unique bronze]

Thats why the chaos gods hate big e

[crisp heath]

They don't want to win

[valid needle]

He was meant to lead humanity to the worship of chaos and he didn’t so yeah kind of

[crisp heath]

Is this real??

I never knew thus

[valid needle]

What the conditions of the deal?

[unique bronze]

Its kinda half revealed as far as I know

[crisp heath]

It's nit really revealed

[valid needle]

The emperor would be given 20 warp entities and in return he would lead humanity to the worship and rule of chaos.

[crisp heath]

It's just assumed since they scattered his kids and he had to get that power from somewhere

We don't even know if he made a deal w the gods or a warp entity

[unique bronze]

Was it warp entities, I thought he just needed the means to bind warp powers into flesh, hence the Primarch Project

[crisp heath]

I think it was

Alltho with what brother said

It does seem pretty true

[valid needle]

He needed warp entities to make the primarchs. Each primarch is a warp entity

[crisp heath]

ANOTHER FACT I HAD NO CLUE WAS TRUE

[valid needle]

Hence why they all have warp powers of some kind

[crisp heath]

Wtf

Dudes got a bunch of demonic kids 💀

Thus must mean he was going to cull them after the great crusade

[valid needle]

Some literal daemons now lol

[crisp heath]

I think he would leave the primarchs 🤔

Too strong

[unique bronze]

Lmao, still some loyal than others

[crisp heath]

I was saying this in general and people were looking at me like I was fkn nuts

[unique bronze]

Never thought of it that way, so thats interesting

[valid needle]

Idk

[crisp heath]

I think he made them as tools

And once they have lived their use

But it is hard to say

We don't know

[valid needle]

He became very attached to them. In Valero:birth of the imperium. Malcador and Constantine even note how strange it is that he started calling them his sons before he even found them again.

[crisp heath]

Has a funny way of showing it

[unique bronze]

Real

[valid needle]

Plus whilst they are powerful, none are more powerful than him.

[unique bronze]

Well til one of his sons got juiced up by all 4 chaos gods

[crisp heath]

Although horus nearly fked him up

[valid needle]

Culling them could have been a possibility but idk I’m of the opinion he wouldn’t.

[crisp heath]

Horus was very strong then

Tbf

Had the gods over him

[unique bronze]

He was goated

[crisp heath]

I prefer perty

[valid needle]

He still couldn’t beat the emperor though. Dealt him a fatal blow right enough but the emperor was still able to beat Horus plus all of the gods.

[unique bronze]

Not to mention years of experience as the WArmaster

[crisp heath]

Horus should have gotten gud

[unique bronze]

Didnt Horus hesitate at the end tho

[crisp heath]

Perty would have won the seige

Everyone was just idiots

[unique bronze]

He sorta like came back to his senses briefly and just asked to be killed for what hes done

[valid needle]

He broke free of the chaos gods control momentarily and asked the emperor to quickly kill him before he regains his powers.

[unique bronze]

Yeah, that bit

Sad af knowing that hes like dead dead

[crisp heath]

That bit where they are fighting 1000 duels in different dimensions

[valid needle]

Then the emperor said “I forgive you and I wait for you” whatever that means.

[crisp heath]

I wonder if they were seals on a iceberg slapping each other

[unique bronze]

Fought so hard it scattered across realities

[unique bronze]

lmao, that'd be funny

[crisp heath]

You know how they slap fight

I need to start reading the heresy

[unique bronze]

iz good book

[crisp heath]

Like actual books not audio

I tried audio so many times

Can't remeber shit

[valid needle]

Infact another one against the idea he would cull all the primarchs is the fact he hesitated so much throughout the heresy and offered multiple of the traitor primarchs multiple chances to come back to him and only killed Horus after Horus killed Sanguinius.

If he planned to cull them anyway he would have went straight for the traitors not gave them every chance to come back

[crisp heath]

The chaos gods would have loved him when he fucked sanguinus up

Then they would have not wanted anything to do w him lol

[unique bronze]

Prolly thought he still needed whatever primarchs he could save after Horus was dealth with

Sort of like how he handled Angron

[crisp heath]

Lol dilara would love that

[valid needle]

She made it

[crisp heath]

Does not surprise me at all

She does not like sanguinus at all 💀

Actually made me dislike him lmao

[valid needle]

I don’t either

[crisp heath]

Didn't realise he was a warlord like guy

[valid needle]

He is so fucking perfect that he wraps back around to being absolutely fucking annoying.

Same with fulgrim and his annoying ass perfection shit

[crisp heath]

It makes me wonder about the rest of the astartes tbh

[valid needle]

Like mf we get it you like perfection

[crisp heath]

Like I think now I kinda dislike em

[valid needle]

Stop putting it into every sentence you say

[crisp heath]

There still cool but she pointed out the stupidity of it all

[valid needle]

Perturabo too

[crisp heath]

Yeah

[valid needle]

He’s a whiny annoying twat

Oh no dad doesn’t appreciate me wah wah wah

[crisp heath]

I like him because of this

[valid needle]

Maybe do your job and stop complaining and your dad might like you

[vagrant fox]

I'm 99% sure if I read more than 8 or 10 or whatever Horus Heresy novels I'd hate every single primarch

[crisp heath]

He's a angry man child

He literally rage quit the seige

Cause his team was throwing

And I would have done the same fkn thing tbh

Wdym your making morty in charge of the seige

[valid needle]

The only cool not annoying primarchs are
Konrad curze
Rogal Dorn
The lion
Guilliman sometimes

[crisp heath]

As he's walking out , we are leaving

I dont like kurze

Dorns a favorite

[valid needle]

How can you not like the baby slayer orphan flayer

[crisp heath]

Sons of dorn are the only astartes I kinda like tbh

Too edgy for me

I however

Love the legion

Very sad

How he treats his sons

[valid needle]

I overlooked Nightlords and curze for the longest time but when I actually gave them a chance I’ve been fully into them since

[crisp heath]

I really hate they always running

Like

Gw

Give us some horror

You have the tools

[valid needle]

I admit I listened to the memes about them being cowards blah blah blah but then i listened to 1/5th of the legion plus kurze jumping and taking turns beating a squad of space wolves to death and then carving a warning into the last one’s head and sending his broken but still alive body back to terra. Absolute cinema.

Hooked ever since

[crisp heath]

However i have been told

Gw doesn't allow misinformation memes

As it messes w the community

[valid needle]

They do

[crisp heath]

Oh

[valid needle]

They even perpetuated the guilliman and yvgraine memes once

[crisp heath]

For example I like the ironwarrior audio book about them beating another astartes to death its short but it's brutal as hell

[valid needle]

Listen to the watcher

[crisp heath]

The whole timethe one getting beaten

[vagrant fox]

the single worst thing gw ever did

[crisp heath]

Won't stop standing

Keeps getting on his feet

[valid needle]

Exact same thing but Nightlords and curze take turns beating and stabbing a space wolves squad to death.

[crisp heath]

The iron warriors one was tragic cause it was when they betrayed the loyalists and the ones beating him thought he doesn't deserve this , this is wrong

[unique bronze]

What was he tormenting a space wolves squad for

[valid needle]

Because they just turned traitor

[crisp heath]

It's similar to the word bearer khan loved

Forgive me brother

Argel tal

[unique bronze]

Traitor? How so

[valid needle]

The space wolves thought they were still loyal and boarded the nightfall thinking curze was still good. Then curze begins laughing and 1 5th of the nightlord legion grab the wolves then all take turns beating and stabbing them.

[crisp heath]

Oh see I don't really like that

That's kinda ugly

[unique bronze]

Ohh, i thought you meant the space wolves going traitor kekw

[valid needle]

It was definitely meant as a horror audio drama

[crisp heath]

He's enjoying it , this the reason I find kurze edgy

And also the not willing to change the future so his sons can avenge his death lol

His sons literally said

Without you we are lost

[unique bronze]

Wasnt his death calculated tho

[crisp heath]

Yeah

He sees the future

Oh apparently he was really unhygienic

Rotting teeth oily skin and hair

Long finger nails

Truely the goth bad boy lol

[nocturne crest]

What are the chances that someone in the imperium who rules over a planet banned giving bad news?

[queen laurel]

@arctic talon holy shit the skaven are even bringing down sky ports

[valid needle]

Yes

[crisp heath]

Is there any good news in the 41st millenia tho 💀

[unique bronze]

Guiliman being revived

At least Id imagine it is

[nocturne crest]

The primarchs are coming back.

[valid needle]

Every time Abbadon does something big against the imperium a primarch returns💀

[unique bronze]

Or Lion'el realising one of his brothers are still alive after a 10k year nap

[queen laurel]

no only bad news with varyring degrees of bad

[crisp heath]

My lord the planet is starving and production has ceased , what do we do . Disassemble the hospitals and use the steel from there for the war

[vagrant fox]

What was that one planet claiming tyranids invading was false rumours even as they rained from the sky

That's sorta there

[crisp heath]

Ignore what you think you see

It's the warp playing tricks on your mind

Don't look up

[unique bronze]

its raining aliens, dont worry about it

[crisp heath]

It's just a casual day for the imperium

Sounds like your thinking to much citizen 🤔

Lobotomy time

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if planets can be prepared to handle an Exterminatus?

[plush mason]

i guess it would depend on how the exterminatus is carried out

[nocturne crest]

Let's say Cyclonic torpedo?

[unique bronze]

Didn't Cadia had heavy void shields that withstood just that as well

[storm jungle]

You could say