40k-lore-chat

[rocky gale]

They used to be massively OP, but they got nerfed big

[languid meadow]

not great not terrible

[arctic talon]

Decent

Hard to play

[lament shoal]

Thx

I will learn

Also you can incorporate a killteam into a standard army right?

[paper haven]

Going the extra mile

[median star]

most if not all times yea

tho sometimes they can have diff loadout requirements i think

[lament shoal]

Ty

[valid needle]

No not really

They all pretty much exemplify different parts of him

[celest willow]

Black templars ahem ahem

The fists ahem

[valid needle]

Yes they exemplify his crusading nature and hold on I’ll get the exact codex words

[celest willow]

Am taking personality wise

[valid needle]

Well Dorn is very split personality to be honest

I spoke about this earlier today actually

There’s times where he directly contradicts himself or times where his personality fully changes

[celest dome]

Thr Sons of Dorn and the Black Templar are more about what state of mind lead to Dorn fall in the Iron fortress thingy

[valid needle]

The stoic no nonsense dorn is really a mask he puts up but we’ve seen that mark slip plenty times

[valid needle]

People say that was a bad state of mind yet he had shown it a long time before the iron cage

He showed absolute zealous rage when he heard Horus turned traitor

There’s accounts of him fighting in battles and surpassing even Sigismund and dorns templar brethren in his zealousness and fight.

Infact Dorn has also directly contradicted himself and hinted he believes the emperor is a god twice now off the top of my head

From the flight of the Eisenstein when Garro met Dorn and spoke of chaos.

Dorn sighed. ‘The Emperor has no like, Loken. There are no gods in this hollow universe to keep him company. So he made us, demigods, to stand beside him. I have never quite come to terms with my status. Does that surprise you? I see what I am capable of, and what is expected of me, and I shudder. The mere fact of me frightens me sometimes. Do you think your lord Horus ever feels that way?’

From the index Astartes 2

Dorn is a very contradictory character and seems to bounce between two personalities and beliefs. I think the stoic classic Dorn is a mask he puts up. The Dorn we see in Eisenstein. In the scouring, in the iron cage. IMO is the real Dorn.

Also

It would explain why he favourited the black Templars over all his other second foundings.

As they are now named as his favoured scions in the codex

[storm jungle]

Thats kinda what you get when you are written by multiple authors tbh.

especially since all of them have their own takes on the caracter

but people kinda handwave it when its just inconsistent writing

[surreal nest]

Do you guys think hive cities are a necessary thing that the imperium has to do or the imperium just doesnt give a fuck enough to make better environments

Idk how to phrase this question just genuinely curious as the necessity of hive cities as they seem obscenely cruel

[arctic talon]

The Imperium doesn't give a shit + a lot of hive cities predate the imperium and used to be nicer

they've just degraded

Necromunda used to be a lot nicer

before they yknow, tried to fight back against the imperium during the great crusade

and then got their teeth kicked in

and then they got attacked by warp horrors

[storm jungle]

Yeah hive cities are not necessary.

they are made because its how humans evolve/build

we gather and just reach for the sky as we make structures

theres a reason Kowloon here gets mentioned a lot every time this is brought up.

[arctic talon]

Hive cities were just a natural development during the DAOT

[surreal nest]

Ok awesome I am having another argument with a dude who thinks the imperium does what's necessary and I wanted to make sure my understanding of how fucking stupid hive cities were before I cited it

[storm jungle]

Oh fuck off lol

[arctic talon]

Hive cities aren't really the imperiums fault

at all

ironically

They're to the great benefit of the imperium though

[storm jungle]

I mean they are tbh

[surreal nest]

Idk how these people come to this conclusion

[languid meadow]

last night was crazy

[arctic talon]

The construction of them? nah

The degredation of them yeah

[storm jungle]

Yah.

[languid meadow]

when it comes arguing

[storm jungle]

We had people defend a literal nazi

so you tell me lmao

[surreal nest]

Imperium and necessary are opposites lmfao

[storm jungle]

Again must post the meme.

[surreal nest]

That shit was pissing me off

[arctic talon]

okay but the Bringers of Judgment are based and murder pilled

[languid meadow]

I wonder what happened to those guys

bro got so mad he was checking my bio and hated the fact I was Canadian

[lament shoal]

Is that a hive city?

[storm jungle]

Yeah lmao

guess how many people are in there

[lament shoal]

At least 3

[arctic talon]

Nah it was a real one

[languid meadow]

gone but not forgotten Kowloon 💔

[storm jungle]

best black ops 1 level fr

[arctic talon]

Cool place

shame it got torn down but it was inevitable

with how uh

yknow

[storm jungle]

"shame"

[arctic talon]

it had issues

lol

[storm jungle]

are you insane

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Its cooll

[languid meadow]

didn't a fire happen once

[arctic talon]

I like urbanized shitholes like that

lol

[storm jungle]

you should try living in it

[arctic talon]

no

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[unique bronze]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Why tf would I do that

LOL

thinking it looks cool

[unique bronze]

I thought u liked it

[arctic talon]

isn't the same as wanting to live in it

lol

[storm jungle]

coward

[unique bronze]

Skill issue

[storm jungle]

real

[arctic talon]

you do it then

smh

[storm jungle]

you started it

[median star]

i liked the one where you first meet woods

[storm jungle]

...that cuban bar?

or do you mean vietnam

lmao

[median star]

wait

[arctic talon]

I literally just called it cool smh

[median star]

Vietnam

[arctic talon]

never did I mention wanting to live in it lmao

[storm jungle]

yeah that isnt you first meeting him

its Hudson's first time tho

hammered SHIT

[median star]

i always vividly remember that pink smoke idk why

[storm jungle]

its a really bright color in a really monotone war scene/camp

so prob why

[arctic talon]

it pops

Shame we had a whole era of games with the fucking green filter

lol

puke green and piss filter

you couldn't fucking escape it

I know it was to hide low resolution textures and it was a really smart bypass but still lol

[storm jungle]

god

💀

[arctic talon]

like I totally get why they did it but god

it was kind of uhh

[storm jungle]

the thing is

it was a different time

and literally nobody complained

we look at it from a different lens (literally) now

lol

[arctic talon]

well yeah it looked really good back then

I thought Modern Warfare 2 was peak graphics

[storm jungle]

also looking at some of thes games which I played uh

the funniest one on there is RES5

because the devs actually put a piss filter on the game

when you remove it, its VIBRANT and really good

genuinely looks great which is depressing lol

[arctic talon]

yeah but the thing is

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

they wanted to hide lower res textures

Which is a shame

because I would have taken seeing lower res textures over the "gritty" filter

lol

[surreal nest]

I'm assuming he popped a blood vessel in his head and died after he saw a minority on the TV

Literally followed a steam group that negatively reviewed games for suspected DEI

[languid meadow]

😭

[left talon]

Well they are

From a certain point of view

[surreal nest]

I'm assuming you are saying people who think they are good are coming from an evil point of view but the helldivers tag makes me doubt that

[left talon]

What

[valid needle]

He means because super earth are a racist and fascist empire who caused the wars.

[left talon]

I just play the game to run around like an idiot and blow shit up

[storm jungle]

They arent

[storm jungle]

Yeah you are the perfect subject

[surreal nest]

can somebody genuinely explain to me how humanity's evils are necessary because im getting annoyed

is it not true that like 80% of humanity's problems came from their own decisions and expansionist mindset

[storm jungle]

Kind of

[surreal nest]

like the unification wars and the fucking men of iron and the tyranids

[storm jungle]

So okay

We literally basically know nothing about what caused the Men of Iron rebellion, like zero since its never been fully explained yet.

The Tyranids though yeah entirely space marine induced

[surreal nest]

i just mean the humans invented them rght?

[storm jungle]

Yeah AI helpers essentially.

[surreal nest]

just like how inventing the primarchs blew up in their face

its always a decision from humanity

[storm jungle]

Thats another can of worms but basically.

If you wanna see how much of a genius the Emperor truly is go read the last church.

At the end of the day he was always a dumbass tyrant.

his ultimate defense was "I know im right."

[surreal nest]

from all i've read and seen he just is a fucking moron evil dumbass its insane

how does in lore propaganda work on people irl bro

[storm jungle]

Its 50/50. A lot of authors try to portray him as a hero with good intentions that met a tragic end while others portray him as a complete dumbass and monster.

Abnett is one of these people lol

[surreal nest]

maybe im just woke but I feel like your space empire doesnt deserve to survive if it means the subjugation of trillions of people

[storm jungle]

I mean no it doesnt.

the Imperium is better off extinct, but its all too late now

[valid needle]

To be fair it’s either that or the entirety of humanity is wiped out

[surreal nest]

literally what im saying and people are always like "ummm but chaos is evil shouldnt the imperium defend itself"

[storm jungle]

Also another thing

literally nothing was stopping the Emperor from forming a federation.

or like just leaving species/civilizations that didnt wanna join the Imperium alone.

[surreal nest]

you have my vote

kill them!

[storm jungle]

He basically chose the side of complete galactic genocide

[surreal nest]

yeah the unification wars sound like a bunch of baloney to me

idk how people cite that as a positive

[storm jungle]

It was basically a HOI4 match

except everyone had WMDs

[storm jungle]

tbh its basically just the guy with the biggest stick smashing everyone else

hence my HOI4 example

https://tenor.com/view/dekeskui-dekeskoui-gif-20086751

[surreal nest]

i can appreciate that warhammer 40k is a dog eat dog universe but i feel like the imperium is just an uroboros by extension of that

[storm jungle]

It is as per GW.

[surreal nest]

i hate this so much

[storm jungle]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/

We got this pinned on this channel since the day it was made.

[left talon]

Internet clearly

[storm jungle]

🫡

[surreal nest]

woke hammer man....woke hammer....

ruined another hobby of mine....

[storm jungle]

Also if you look at the date

it was made during the time of the BLM riots

which was creating a lot of division at the time

and uhhh certain "views"

[surreal nest]

i know companies are companies but i like this

If you come to a Games Workshop event or store and behave to the contrary, including wearing the symbols of real-world hate groups, you will be asked to leave. We won't let you participate. We don’t want your money. We don’t want you in the Warhammer community.

this is cool

[storm jungle]

Its basically corpo-talk but the thing is corpotalk is good when its actually not cringe and also supportive.

they want you to buy their products and enjoy the hobby

so it makes sense somewhat

[surreal nest]

they pick their battles for sure. they've probably realized that having some fuckwit drooler in their store wearing an iron cross hurts the community more than helps

[storm jungle]

Yeah that was a seperate incident

which they also made an announcement for

[surreal nest]

LOL

[left talon]

Can’t believe people didn’t like canonical muscle mommies

[storm jungle]

REAL.

[surreal nest]

I HATE THIS HOBBY SPACE RAHHHHHHH

[storm jungle]

Basically just stick to your friends

most "memes" about the hobby are unfortunately true

like uhhh the smell

[surreal nest]

best advice ever

and then my warhammer friend ended up being a neo nazi

https://tenor.com/view/skating-basketball-slam-dunk-ice-gif-24361241

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

NOOOO

[left talon]

Imperium fan I presume

[storm jungle]

Also bonus points if he was playing imperial guard

[surreal nest]

turns out jokes in high school inspire a certain viewpoint in real life!!

[surreal nest]

NO THATS ME

hE WAS WORLD EATERS

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

EVEN WORSE

BRAINDEAD

[valid needle]

Everyone is Nazi, it came free with your 40K.

[left talon]

Yeah driven by hate wants to kill everyone that’s not them checks out

[storm jungle]

the nails of the austrian painter sing to him

[storm jungle]

Its always always imperium fans.

[vagrant fox]

The World Eaters discord is kind of uh, a certain kind of pilled I notice sometimes

[storm jungle]

YEP.

space marine pfp bonus

[left talon]

Me sitting in the corner with my funny imperium minis because I couldn’t choose what Xenos was closest to a tank

[storm jungle]

When I say fans i mean "stans" usually, I just use the prior because people dont know what a stan is 😩

[surreal nest]

I recently came across a comment of his in the wild and it was denouncing people who treat muslims like humans and saying theres a white genocide in the USA by muslim saboteurs in the government and their end goal is to make islam the state government

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-blur-pixel-gif-17588996

[storm jungle]

YEET.

[vagrant fox]

dilara is brainwashing us in real time

[storm jungle]

I try my best

[surreal nest]

i showed my coworker my miniatures one time because he likes warhammer and he asked me why i didnt paint them like WW2 germans

point is

i hate it!

i hate all of it!

[storm jungle]

I literally banned a guy yesterday who was name "bjorn" with a space marine pfp

you can guess what he was saying lol

[valid needle]

I don’t get it

[storm jungle]

He was being racist

not much to get

lol

basically its always people with space marine pfps that are weird

which is a trope im kinda sick of honestly

[valid needle]

The Bjorn part threw me off

[storm jungle]

Bjorn the Fell-Handed

when they got a canon character name its usually a bonus

[valid needle]

You mean BJ the blood raven

[storm jungle]

Fuck no

theres only one BJ for me

https://tenor.com/view/zozo-wolfenstein-hanzo-vitta-gif-12938313942894356318

[unique bronze]

time to switch pfps

[storm jungle]

yours doesnt enter the spectrum

its always ones that use some fanart/official artwork

I legit dont get why its them

thats kinda what puzzles me

[surreal nest]

He gave up and admitted defeat after I mentioned hive cities

https://tenor.com/view/skating-basketball-slam-dunk-ice-gif-24361241

[storm jungle]

welp

that usually does the job

[valid needle]

Just wait until the dude named God Emperor of man with a big E pfp pulls up

[valid needle]

Hive cities exist today you know

The top class do well to disguise them as 15 minute cities

[surreal nest]

there were some motherfuckers I've never even seen in lore chat before that popped up last night being the dumbest motherfuckers alive I was shellshocked

all red flag pfps

[storm jungle]

We had 3-4 of those

like, no joke

[storm jungle]

Heres one example i was getting from the banlog

This was 4 days ago

[left talon]

Black Templar

[storm jungle]

Actual clockwork

[left talon]

Of course

[storm jungle]

Always.

like, I very much do not make this shit up

I wish i was tbh

[surreal nest]

yeah this dude gotta burn

[left talon]

Last Templar I interacted with said there’s no good spider man stories

[valid needle]

We don’t claim him

[valid needle]

Mf spider man 2

[storm jungle]

😭

[left talon]

Sorry pal

[surreal nest]

there's already people out there saying the bullet that hit you know who was custom engraved with "trans ideology"

shit is NOT ok

[storm jungle]

I saw those posts

i hope they realise like...

TRN is a normal branding for bullet manufacturers???

💀

[arctic talon]

okay but the police literally said the casings had nothing beyond manufacture stuff on them

lol

is TRN not a turkish ammo brand

[storm jungle]

IT IS

[valid needle]

Who tf is engraving a 12 letter words on a small bullet

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

its called Turan or something

lol

[storm jungle]

YEA

ah well

the woke.... uhhh

idk im not woke im sleepy

[left talon]

Nice looking tanks of that name

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Hmmm not too bad

[arctic talon]

all I know is that their 9mm is cheap as hell lol

like holy shit its cheap

compared to other brands

[storm jungle]

well yeah its 9mm

[arctic talon]

like

compared to other 9mm

smh

[storm jungle]

damn

😔

[left talon]

Not that one

Does look nice though

The ww2 Turan I-III

[valid needle]

You’d think Americans would have banned guns by now

[storm jungle]

my favorite imperial guard vehicle

[left talon]

Really like the little extra armour on the turrets

[storm jungle]

I think its kinda impossible at this point memes aside lol

ive seen like-

"school shooting prevention measures" vids

actually fucking depressing

[left talon]

They aren’t smart are they

[arctic talon]

I had to watch one when I was in grade school

[storm jungle]

Dude

[left talon]

Wants to stop murder

[arctic talon]

Thats not a joke

lol

[left talon]

Doesn’t ban the most dangerous weapon

[storm jungle]

"heres how you lock down a door"

engages bolts

[arctic talon]

we had drills on barricading doors lmao

[storm jungle]

christ lol

[arctic talon]

those stopped in high school though

lol

[left talon]

I find it funny they don’t just attach a gun to the door to shoot the guy like a Home Alone trap at this point

[valid needle]

Want to stop murder

Doesn’t ban the murder weapon

Defends the murderer

[storm jungle]

We never have anything like that here in Turkey so seeing it as an adult is weird

[surreal nest]

education becomes worse and the classrooms become bunkers

[arctic talon]

Its weird as shit

[storm jungle]

SOME actually do

[arctic talon]

K to 12 education was always shit in the US

[storm jungle]

its like some super secure/locked up gun i think??

i saw a Short on it

[arctic talon]

No child left behind

is like

[storm jungle]

its really weird

[arctic talon]

the nail in the coffin

that made US K to 12 education even shittier

lol

[left talon]

Americans making drills to barricade doors instead of just shooting the guy to save several people

[valid needle]

Man worst thing we had to deal with in primary school was the race to the milk fridge at milk break to make sure no one steals yours

[left talon]

The guy can’t shoot multiple people

If he’s dead

Medieval peasants could figure this out

[storm jungle]

Ours was making sure to get to the canteen first so you dont ahve to wait in a row for some nugget sandwiches

[surreal nest]

dont bring up elementary school and milk to me bro i was a milk maniac i drank so much one time my body wouldnt let me drink anymore for like 5 months

[valid needle]

“He was homeless and had mental health issues we need to do more for the homeless” no dumb ass you need to electric chair violent criminals is what you need to do.

[storm jungle]

tbh

they say that too and its like

[left talon]

Gotham ass police forces man

[storm jungle]

"heres how we can make more homeless and disgruntled people"

[storm jungle]

DO NOT GET ME STARTED

[left talon]

If they kill someone

Kill them

[storm jungle]

theres a reason the Punisher is my favorite "superhero"

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-punisher-shooting-gif-1065964370746218006

[left talon]

He’s Judge

Jury

Executioner

Oh and Moonknight

[storm jungle]

Frank is great because hes literally the result of a broken system and he knows it, its what makes it funnier when IRL enforcement agencies adopt his symbol

[left talon]

His only villains are immortal

[storm jungle]

Im glad they covered that in Born Again, its so good

he kills like 10 corrupt cops in a loading dock

fucking slaughters em

[left talon]

I was reading something about how people forgot what his original meaning was

[storm jungle]

Yep, its to the point that they actually explored it in teh comics too

he tells the cops to look up to actual heroes seriously like Captain America

which is really good advice tbh

[surreal nest]

The new batman VR game explored this too it was so cool. The main antagonist was bringing up how heroes don't support a broken system and shit and his vigilantism is just supporting an oppressive panicking regime

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

Batman is just a shithead in general though so i cant comment im very biased lol

[surreal nest]

then batman cried because hes a little DUMBASS and I HATE HIM but hes cool too

[valid needle]

You know what the problem is with society. When someone steps in to stop a violent crime the population will jump on the guy taking down criminal scum and say silly shit like oh the guy had mental health issues, he was homeless and that’s why he killed that girl. Then they will crucify the person who steps in to strangle the person out.

[frail yoke]

In general or in one adaptation?

[left talon]

The residents of Gotham watching as the Scarecrow gasses the entire city for the 15th Tuesday in a row and they still don’t kill him

[storm jungle]

My issue is basically hes stuck in a limbo, he can never permanently stop his criminals who will always break and kill people because we need his supervillains for future comic issues

also his fanbase is unhinged sometimes

see tibetan monk technique

but yeah I like him its just a lot sometimes

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/2ACoKLYaIO0?t=18

Highly recommend this show btw, its great

basically more or less what you are saying imo lol

[surreal nest]

i'm getting this vibe about everything now I'm just over it

[frail yoke]

I dislike how much plot armor he has, the rest i atribute to comics never leaving the status quo

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Pretty much perfectly put yeah

[surreal nest]

I can't enjoy anything anymore with these disgusting gremlins in my hobby spaces

[storm jungle]

its why I like my Batman "small". Ala Arkham Asylum/City games for example or Origins.

When it reaches 40k galactic multiverse levels I just check out im sorry

[storm jungle]

Find your own nice space and stick to that, its why I always stick to this server lol

[left talon]

Regular Gotham resident watching Batman jump off a roof and kick the shit out of 27 goons wearing armour with weapons

[surreal nest]

this place is nice

[surreal nest]

yesterday made me a bit feral but i'll forget about it eventually

[frail yoke]

And then hopping inside a giant tank sized car

[storm jungle]

Yeah dont get really violent like that again please 💀

it was really bad looking for everyone involved

[storm jungle]

No no thats okay

[left talon]

And driving under Bruce Wayne’s manor

[storm jungle]

see the tank shocks people

it doesnt kill them :]

cue footage of you fucking ramming into a shitty ass car

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-car-crash-gif-9388562661726532947

[left talon]

It’s shooting 20mm shock rounds at best that’s a big shell man

[storm jungle]

YEAH EVEN THE NON-LETHAL ONES

"Its like being punched by a gorilla"

mfer you are gonna get a concussion for the rest of your life

[left talon]

Oh

And the missiles

Those are not shock missiles

Those are straight up Anti-Tank weapons

[storm jungle]

I love Jason's plan in that

Oh he has a bat-tank?

lets just send legions of unmanned drones after him

[left talon]

500 tanks

[storm jungle]

YEP

JUST MAN THEM

IR STRAP PEOPLE ONTO THEM AS HUMAN SHIELDS

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

https://tenor.com/view/demon-cat-scary-cat-demon-scary-cat-gif-26356229

[left talon]

Ah yes

[storm jungle]

OR CALL IN A FUCKING AIRSTRIKE ON HIM

[storm jungle]

im a very sane human being

[left talon]

They literally have the stuff to have thousands of tanks and several air units

Yet they don’t use Artillery

[arctic talon]

Look

[left talon]

Or Strafing runs

[arctic talon]

Sometimes you gotta have the game work

[valid needle]

What happened

[arctic talon]

If batman got obliterated by Jason's stolen predator missile drone

we wouldn't have a game

[left talon]

Batman would’ve made it out of that man

[storm jungle]

Which is hilarious because like

they put mines into roads that can blow up entire blocks of buildings and are dangerous enough to stop the national guard from arriving for help

man the rooftops with AA-systems and rockets

have giant drones that control the skies

etc etc

JUST DROP A FUCKING AIRSTRIKE ON HIM

[arctic talon]

just air strike the tumbler

[left talon]

Yet their ground forces are lacking

[arctic talon]

or whatever the fuck its called

rumbler

idfk

[left talon]

The tanks are shit

[storm jungle]

Batman gets so much plot armor its crazy

[left talon]

Gets taken out by a few small rockets and 20mm rounds

[arctic talon]

They're super secret waynetech™ rockets

idfk

[surreal nest]

twas the night before 9/11

[storm jungle]

my ass is waynetech

Wait

was yesterday 9/11

[left talon]

Yes

[surreal nest]

no yesterday was 9/10

[storm jungle]

Damn 😔

[dapper gyro]

It is still 11 sept here.

[left talon]

But nobody had any memes because Schlatt once again got something important to happen near his birthday

His ass is cursed

[storm jungle]

very based

[surreal nest]

funniest shit ever

[storm jungle]

Uh the whole Rick thing

or was his name Kirk

i forgot already 💀

[surreal nest]

Michael

[storm jungle]

Myers???

[surreal nest]

no FUCKING way

[left talon]

“Surely nothing wrong will happen -insert date-“ Queen of England fucking dies

[storm jungle]

good, fuck her

[valid needle]

Oh yeah lol American civil war 2 the prologue

[dapper gyro]

The age gap though...

[storm jungle]

Real.

anyway we must distract ourselves from nuclear holocaust however we can

preferably by warhammer

[surreal nest]

The witch of England has fallen

[left talon]

How about Solar holocaust

[storm jungle]

aughgh

please no

[dapper gyro]

No nuke, but exterminatus acid rain is alright.

[storm jungle]

im brown enough as is 💀

[wintry scarab]

Do all space marines age the same? Or can you have 2 marines that are the same age but one is a balding old man and the other is a twink

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[surreal nest]

Yeah if im gonna die can it be because the sun got used as a laser beam i wanna be a footnote in historical war developments

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure they all age the same. Appearance just depends on the geneseed and what you looked pre-transformation.

The geneseed just bulks you up and gives you himbo proportions

[surreal nest]

Space marine 2 squad

What's his name

The handsome guy

[storm jungle]

Galadriel?

no wait thats LOTR

LMAO

GADRIEL

[valid needle]

Nah she was a great queen

[frail yoke]

Titus of course

[paper haven]

Unless you're Iron Warriors fighting the hrud

[valid needle]

Better than the geriatric fuck we got to replace her

[storm jungle]

Gyattriel

[surreal nest]

I googled it and I was like uh uh

Gadriel is a real sweetheart

[storm jungle]

the other i only remember because a friend of mine calls him 🪑on (Chairon)

[frail yoke]

Gadriel is 100% a blood angel who got misplaced as a ultramarine

[paper haven]

Never thought I would see a space marine die of old age but of course the Iron Warriors managed it

[dapper gyro]

They are preserved primaris, just white shield gets assigned randomly.

[frail yoke]

Iron Within, Iron Without

[paper haven]

Truly they are at the bleeding edge of the art of killing their own troops

[storm jungle]

very relevant clip

[left talon]

I call him Chair Iron
Then Chadriel
Then Left tenant Titus

[surreal nest]

What's the goal of these implants what do they even accomplish

[storm jungle]

it looks cool

shut up

[valid needle]

Chairon would stuff him like an Oreo

[left talon]

These space marines are stupid
Guy has a Vox helmet but not the Vox caster

[frail yoke]

Faster response time, idk

[paper haven]

How it feels explaining to your boss that you got permission to arrive an hour late to work

[storm jungle]

LMAO I NEVER REALISED THAT, FUCK.

[dapper gyro]

If you want to know more, we can put it on you so you can learn.

[left talon]

It’s one of the hints to them being traitors

Along with the fake guys

[storm jungle]

dude

my friend missed that reveal

because his graphics were low

and he was like

"why are we zooming on his arm"

fucking amongus type shit

[dapper gyro]

🤨

[storm jungle]

[left talon]

anyway back in a minute guys gonna get a drink

[paper haven]

I mean I was tipped off that they were heretics when Chairon yelled traitors and they blew up the red helmet guy

[surreal nest]

Damn I missed the subtext of that interaction

[paper haven]

Imagine getting killed by an IED

[wintry scarab]

Are those implants? It just looks like he had part of his head taken off and they just stapled it back together.

[paper haven]

Couldn't be me

[surreal nest]

Thats metal

[dapper gyro]

"Inhuman reaction" still let the guy run to the button before shooting.

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but should there be a 40k vehicle that can carry artillery models on the tabletop

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are, its a skingraft as well

[dapper gyro]

No, the button wasn't arm reach.

[left talon]

Verelius vs explosion who will win

[surreal nest]

Isn't there for imperial guard or is that just decoration?

I thought they had towed artillery?

[storm jungle]

Like, a huge truckbed sort of thing?

[wintry scarab]

I love me 40k implants and body horror. That one darktide cosmetic of the vox mouth implant goes hard.

[nocturne crest]

Where did they get the skin from

[storm jungle]

ITS LITERALLY HIS OWN SKIN

[nocturne crest]

Yes.

[paper haven]

There's a few variations of artillery haulers

[storm jungle]

I DONT think so no

hold on

[paper haven]

You also got self propelled guns

[left talon]

Plug another dreadnought rated artillery cannon directly into my brain stem

[paper haven]

Hell I bet some regiments straight up use horse drawn artillery

[surreal nest]

Isnt the basilisk basically just a towed artillery gun at that point

[nocturne crest]

Like, I was just wondering if they had to do that thing where they take the skin from another area on the body.

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Astra_Militarum_Vehicles_(List)

Theres basically no like hovercraft-bed kind of vehicle

[dapper gyro]

There a many SPA and SPG in 40K.

[storm jungle]

there IS some in books like uhhh Traitors Rock iirc

but its just a vehicle madeup for the book

for that one specific engagement lol

[left talon]

SPAA guns are surprisingly uncommon

SPGs are a dime a dozen

[storm jungle]

the basilisk is built on a chimera chassis so no

[dapper gyro]

Well, they only need 1 or 2 kind of SPAA.

[surreal nest]

I've been thinking about that implant in what scenario do you even need that

I guess like your jaw getting blown off or some shit

Its just so scary

[dapper gyro]

Even in real life, from Nato for example, multiple different chassis, but most SPAA in Nato use the same gun and radar.

[left talon]

That may be because they usually use missiles

Because the gun can’t exactly hit jets going Mach whatever

[dapper gyro]

Oh, you think that SPAA is only for heli and aircraft?

I have bad news.

For some reason, they have APFSDS for AA...

[paper haven]

If I had to guess I'd say he got shot in the head with a plasma gun or hit with a power weapon

[wintry scarab]

Theres a plethora of reasons. Fear factor, a show of dedication, a fix for a wound or condition. Plenty of reasons. Also looking at the cosmetic again, i dont like the teeth sticking out. Wish the lips just touched the metal and hid the teeth.

[storm jungle]

I hate how the teeth are touching the top of the metal mic as well

its so fucking gross, I love it

[left talon]

The light tank and infantry when they try to flank an SPAA

[paper haven]

Imagine the vibrations hitting the teeth when they talk

[surreal nest]

Shit is actually insane I love warhammer

[left talon]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-minigun-quad-minigun-quadruple-minigun-anih-gif-14691235838571669330

[surreal nest]

Thats so vile

I'm getting overstimulated just thinking of that shit

[paper haven]

It's why I'm here

[surreal nest]

It can't be worse than some other augmentation bullshit ive seen

[paper haven]

Did you know that the head makes a great antenna?

[dapper gyro]

Also, the modern radar and aiming system are insane, even at Mach speed, it is still a death zone for jet withing 4km.

[paper haven]

Something about basically being a gallon of water hovering 5 to 6 feet off the ground

[dapper gyro]

Luckily, 40K Spaa are way worse than irl modern SPAA.

[surreal nest]

I thought this shit was a droideka

[wintry scarab]

I mean, yeah it does look gross. But why would the top lip always be up in a snarl. I guess maybe the implant was pushed in so hard that it slowly would force the front teeth upwards and thats why the lip is so far up.

[languid meadow]

the teeth used to have jiggle physics

[wintry scarab]

Yeah, when your char talks, them move around lol

[languid meadow]

the breathing teeth gif

[paper haven]

Oh boy man made horrors within my comprehension

[wintry scarab]

Looking at this gross ass side profile, thats exactly whats happening lol. The top teeth have literally been forced out of the way for the implant to fit.

[left talon]

average British teeth meme

[young pecan]

I have to ask what the point of this augmentation even is

[wintry scarab]

"our teef ain even that bad tho" lookin ass

[surreal nest]

That new augment in the shop is pretty gnarly too. The fucking built in goggles

[young pecan]

And what is the tube for

[surreal nest]

Breathing

[young pecan]

And how do you talk without moving your jaw

[wintry scarab]

Speaker mouth. You now cannot speak quietly and always speak with authority. And you look scary as hell.

[young pecan]

I feel like if I had that augmentation I would be licking all over the metal inside of it

[young pecan]

I have a quiet voice problem sometimes but this is NOT worth it

[nocturne crest]

Do you think the next admech kill team will replace the skitarri with servitors?

[wintry scarab]

Licking? They aint got no tongue lol. Theyre missing most of their bottom jaw. Gross. But very cool

[nocturne crest]

Does the black templars have Librians?

[crisp heath]

No

[nocturne crest]

Okay, so do they do if a BT space marines becomes a psyker?

[crisp heath]

They use navigators and that's about it iirc

Uhh

Exile/execution most likely

It may also be worth mentioning they see astropaths and navigators as divine beings

Is a navigator a mutant or a psyker?

[opaque coyote]

Fallout NV but Bethesda developed

[valid needle]

Psyker

[sacred ginkgo]

Mutant

[crisp heath]

I saw it was a stable mutation somewhere

[valid needle]

It is uncertain how, or when, the Black Templars ceased to field
Librarians, for with their disappearance, much of the Chapter’s
history was also lost. Outsiders suggest that as the Chapter came
to worship the Emperor as a god, they took his decree at the
Edict of Nikaea to disband their Librarius divisions as holy law.
Others whisper that the Black Templars’ gene-seed has somehow
deteriorated, or that their Librarians were slain during a great
war in the Chapter’s history. Some scholars point to the Black
Templars’ final battle to end the Catelexis Heresy of M34, and
the apocalyptic psychic death-screams that tore through the
warp after the slaying of the Cacodominus, as another possible
explanation. Whatever the truth, the Black Templars have come
to accept the loss of their Librarians as part of the Emperor’s
divine plan. If the Emperor decides to once again bless the Black
Templars with Librarians, they will embrace it, but until that
day, they will wage battle without these powerful warriors at
their side.

• Space Marines 8th Codex

[sacred ginkgo]

They don’t have psychic powers, they can just see into the warp

And can point the warp at people

[valid needle]

@crisp heath this is the best explanation for bt and librarians

Wrong person my bad

[crisp heath]

Yeah I saw this somewhere actually they have kinda just taken it as big es divine plan or something

[vagrant fox]

Changes a bit from edition to edition and crusade fleet to crusade fleet afaik

[crisp heath]

I'm no scientist but I'd say Theo

[valid needle]

I think the BT Librarium was lost in the howling

[vagrant fox]

In Broken Crusade that specific fleet seems to see all psykers as necessary evil at best and something to kill normally

[crisp heath]

This being said

I'm pretty sure they would never raise a hand to a sanctioned psyker

[valid needle]

They don’t

Sanctioned are fine

[crisp heath]

That's like a decree from big e himself

[valid needle]

It’s rogue and unsanctioned psykers they persecute

Otherwise they would be warring with cousin chapters and even brother chapters

[vagrant fox]

Yea it's a bad idea

[opaque coyote]

Also a bad idea because if you bully a sanctioned Psyker enough

Well

They might consider selling their soul just to fuck you over

[crisp heath]

That's like teasing the schizophrenic and thinking it's a good idea 💀

[valid needle]

Big e himself never rolled back his ban on librarians

[opaque coyote]

But in the schizo's case

Those voices are very much real

And they can turn a weak psyker

Into a city destroyer

And sanctioned aren't weak

[crisp heath]

Wth I didn't realise he actually banned them till u said something

[valid needle]

He forbid them from being fielded and using their powers. He never rolled that back it was only rolled back by the Primarchs and high lords with big e a vegetable

He did however create the grey knights

[cyan merlin]

Hey is there a specific reason a blade cannot be both a force-sword and a power sword?
Suppose if it WAS possible grey knights would use them

[crisp heath]

Omg and it was bc of magnus lol

Lmao even

[young pecan]

Is Dan Abnett accurate in that inquisitorial psykers can only be so powerful to be allowed as inquisitors?

||It almost felt like Eisenhorn taking out his dampener many books later was a "I feel like making mc guy stronger" out of nowhere move||

Or is it actually common to have sub-dermal dampeners like that

[opaque coyote]

Well he along with some other authors did write a Inquistion guidebook that includes dampeners

The Inquisition (Background Book)

So

Technically by his own guidelines

Yes

[rose thorn]

Yeah that’s exactly what it was

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

But now it's technically canon now

So

[young pecan]

Do all sub-dermal dampeners include a tracker/alarm for when it's removed?

I feel like they would have to

[opaque coyote]

UM are based off of the romans

And yet rarely use spears

[unique bronze]

Remember having a convo with someone here that I kinda wish we get to see more space marines using spears or polearms

[left talon]

Probably because you can’t fit a chainsaw in a spear

[unique bronze]

I vaguely remember reading a novel long time ago about the nightlords using something called a Chainglaive

[vagrant fox]

Chainglaives exist, sadly underutilised

Night Lords and World Eaters use(d) them a bit yeah

[opaque coyote]

Not with that attitude

[vagrant fox]

Pretty sure some rough riders too

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside you definitely can

Just

Attach the chain blade to the end of the long stick

I think that's how the Chain Glaive works

[left talon]

That’s just a worse chainsaw

[opaque coyote]

So is the chainsword

The Eviscerator is just a giant chainsaw

The chainsword is a smaller chainsaw

[left talon]

That’s a sword though

[unique bronze]

What about the Chainaxe

[vagrant fox]

Sensible and cool

[left talon]

Hammers better

Just turn them to mush

[vagrant fox]

If chain flails are canon you can have chain anythings

[opaque coyote]

Honestly my headcanon is that out of all the chainthings

They actually don't know how to make a regular chainsaw

Like

That's why the chainaxe exists

They forgot how to make a regular chainsaw

[unique bronze]

Id also like to think that some space marines out there utilise polearms just as much they do with any other common melee weaps they got

Kinda like this or something, a fanart of Asterion I think made by Z-bozi, its a snippet so the pictures a bit bigger

[vagrant fox]

Na chainaxes were used by even the Sons of Horus and they had no supply issues
In terms of ttrpgs the chainaxe just did more damage but aren't balanced so they suck a bit to parry with

[plush mason]

well romans arent really known for their spears

[opaque coyote]

...I know them for their spears

[plush mason]

well popular media knows them for their short swords

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though that is what I actually imagine the stereotypical roman warrior with

[opaque coyote]

Do the UM actually use Gladius?

More importantly

[plush mason]

yes, many power swords are modeled after the gladius

[opaque coyote]

Are there chain and powered versions

[vagrant fox]

The UM have a combat knife variant just straight up called a gladius iirc

[plush mason]

iirc gladius is literally just sword in Latin so naming a knife sword is kinda funny

[vagrant fox]

There's an unlockable power gladius in space marine 2

It's a knife too

[unique bronze]

Its one of the variants for the combat knife yeah

[vagrant fox]

It's a strange naming conversation but that's warhammer

[plush mason]

true

[outer wave]

One day we'll return to form

[daring creek]

Is it true space marines kiss eachother when guardsmen aren't looking

[opaque pumice]

only when the guardsmen are too busy also kissing each other

[outer wave]

Yes, next question

[arctic talon]

They do have power swords that look like Gladiuses

[languid meadow]

I forgot the name for gmans gladius

Gladius Incandor

Yeah it's cool power weapon

And since it's a power weapon it probably doesn't share the same weakness that the normal gladius had

Besides the length

[crisp heath]

For some reason I think of romans w short spears wasn't early Rome like this

[daring creek]

Where does the Inquisition hide the Tau Harem

[crisp heath]

When they had those rounder sheilds

[languid meadow]

They still used both pillums and the gladius

But there were spears in use

[arctic talon]

Rome used spears quite a bit

[languid meadow]

It's a fucking spear cheap as dirt

[arctic talon]

Pretty much

Every historical civilization ever used spears

[languid meadow]

But even from the Republic they were using their pillums and short swords

[arctic talon]

They’re kind of one of the easiest/most effective things to make to kill something

[unique bronze]

I guess it boiled down to how they used them in wartime

[crisp heath]

Ah true , yeah spears are op

[arctic talon]

Still funny to me the super unique exarch weapon for the howling banshees

Is just a giant fucking power spear

lol

Spears are pretty underrepresented in 40K

Which is funny considering AoS and whfb

[surreal nest]

Is your pfp from the Bad North game

[arctic talon]

Which is spears, the game

[crisp heath]

Don't the minotaurs use em

[unique bronze]

It is, lmao

[arctic talon]

Marines in general do use power spears

But they’re less common

[languid meadow]

I think this is the best recreation we have a legionaries gear of the Roman Republic

[crisp heath]

Ah more spears would be sick

[surreal nest]

Thats so awesome I fuck with it

[languid meadow]

But this are Romans and not other Italians/auxiliaries

[crisp heath]

This is extremely similar to what I saw in a book

Like 1 to 1

[proven eagle]

Absolute swag

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Spears are cool lol

[languid meadow]

They are

[crisp heath]

Heck yeah

[arctic talon]

Polearms in general are cool

[crisp heath]

Halbeirds are one of my favorite weapons

[languid meadow]

It helps the Romans were really good at keeping records

[crisp heath]

Actually that makes alot of sense

They did document everything

[arctic talon]

I wish more historical civilizations documented a ton and the info was preserved smh

[languid meadow]

Tbf it's a mix

Like yeah they were good but it helps that when both the west and then east collapsed the states that took over preserved their records

[arctic talon]

It’s sad how much is lost to time

Anyways this dude has a baseball cap lol

[proven eagle]

You don't know how much is lost to time until you start looking up nomadic civilizations

[unique bronze]

and written history only started roughly 5,000 years ago, comparing that to how long humans have been around for

[crisp heath]

Oh I'm pretty sure we only know Like half of out history

Probably even less

[proven eagle]

There's one entire nomadic culture that people literally didn't know existed until recently because they just happened to find some pottery that miraculously survived 30000 years

They didn't build any permanent structures, and had no written records, so they legit left no evidence of their existence

[unique bronze]

wheres this from?

[arctic talon]

Prismata crystal mission

Around the start

There’s some guardsmen

[proven eagle]

It's not that out of place honestly

[unique bronze]

Ahh, nah, idk why I thought it was from another game

[proven eagle]

Especially considering how underhivers dress, a baseball cap looking thing isn't really that out of the ordinary for 40k

[arctic talon]

It’s not out of place at all tbh

I just think it’s fun

Seeing more modern clothing is funny

[unique bronze]

And then we see this one guardsman in a Parka

[sour hornet]

W

[sour hornet]

There's also just a modern-day 2012 4-wheel ATV just sitting in Hab Dreyko

[shadow plover]

you mean this thing?

[storm jungle]

I wouldnt really call this "modern day" lmao

it looks way more chunky/industrial

[opaque coyote]

The inaccurate part about this is that the woman would be the night lord

[crisp heath]

You can find these on a farm minus the weapon thingy

[shadow plover]

tractor atvs are pretty common in the cities here as well

[crisp heath]

There cool ashell 😎

[dapper gyro]

Im sorry, but I think you found a cougar...

[crisp heath]

Hehe

[hallow saddle]

mfw they start talking about the Horus Heresy

[queen laurel]

ah misinformation again

[crisp heath]

It's a meme I hope your joking

[queen laurel]

Yeah that's the thing people believe it

Do you know how many times I have heard orks can bend reality even though they can't

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/ayo-blink-sirberus-best-sirberus-is-best-cool-man-gif-24116019

It's literally so silly I don't know how anyone would take this seriously 😐

[queen laurel]

you underestimate how oblivious the warhammer community can be

[crisp heath]

[queen laurel]

Yeah welcome to warhammer 40k where misinformation and meme lore quite a problem

[raven stone]

To the point that GW has to do brand image control to stamp out certain fan animations that cemented the meme lore…

[rose thorn]

imagine being the guy finding an STC with a baseball cap in it

[wintry scarab]

Oof, bought the new borderlands to test how it runs on my system. I get around 60fps with frame gen, dlss and all that crap on low settings lol. Im hearing the game has denuvo and inbuilt RTX that you cant turn off lol

The game looks not much better than bl3 and i can run bl3 on high settings at 120fps stable. And bl3 has no dlss lol

Insane

[near wasp]

Companies forgot how to optimize

[celest dome]

It's even easier, optimising isn't as easy to sell as more content is

So it is better for them to increase the overall content than concentrate on optimising stuff

[near wasp]

I hate modern gaming

I'm going back to playing rim world and vampire the maswuade

[queen laurel]

that's why i have been praying to the machine good that i can play dawn of war 4 on my system on low graphics

[valid needle]

They caught the guy

He’s republican apparently

[queen laurel]

charlie kirk related?

if so as usual people just don't agree so much to the point that they would rather kill each other what a surprise

[valid needle]

Yes

[summer mural]

its a peculiar kind of mental joblessness

[outer wave]

Okay but who actually inscribes shit onto casings?

[summer mural]

the peculiar kind of people of people who have dedicated too much time to waste

[outer wave]

I still think that tidbit is fabricated

[queen laurel]

ah yes history is doomed to repeat itself they say?

[summer mural]

also i dunno if its true or not , but apparently kirk isnt actually dead

[queen laurel]

he's confirmed dead

That was a shot on his neck

[near wasp]

People do it all the time

[queen laurel]

Very low chance he made it out of that and we have gotten confirmation

[summer mural]

it does seem so, i just checked

definitely gone

[raven stone]

There is the rare uncensored death vid floating around.
That kind of shot is dead - dead

It would take the most insane of conspiracies to argue he is alive at this point

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[rose thorn]

Shocking, no one expected this outcome

Crazy

[raven stone]

On a completely different matter - Ubisoft just released Retaliation mode for Division 2 and it really is just 15 minutes of Division Agents going “BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD” as you run around to reclaim all the Control Points of a certain zone within 15 minutes.

[outer wave]

CPs

[raven stone]

Only for a certain zone, but yes

[outer wave]

I assume Checkpoints or something like that

[raven stone]

Control Points

[outer wave]

Okay okay that makes sense

[storm jungle]

bro

[near wasp]

Please never shorten control or command points

[storm jungle]

can you fucking gooners stop abbreviating CP to something else

[raven stone]

…oh.

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

Fixed it anyways 😅

[outer wave]

Nice

[storm jungle]

Die

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/haaaank-meme-funny-gif-14511381047437346346

[raven stone]

Instructions unclear, continues to live 🤣

[storm jungle]

ALSO WAIT A MINUTE

[summer mural]

holy shiiit

[storm jungle]

IS THAT FIRST ONE A HELLDIVERS JOKE

[summer mural]

I just tried this aliens dark descent game, its so good

i wasnt expecting it to be this good

[valid needle]

Yeah

[raven stone]

…so…the shooter is a Helldivers fan.

[storm jungle]

I mean

[raven stone]

Huh, well, that is top irony.

[storm jungle]

about half the world is a helldivers fan

so that checks out

[valid needle]

Apparently he was a competitive shooter

[storm jungle]

Makes sense, that distance was a lot

[valid needle]

Which is believable considering his kill shot

[raven stone]

Well that explains the shot to the jugular, yes

[near wasp]

Too bad he used the five hundred one and not the precision rail cannon strike

[storm jungle]

what is the Major Order on this

[storm jungle]

💀

(also nice)

anyway speaking of brutal killings

imo these people that ask questions like this should be executed by firing squads

🫡

[outer wave]

The dark elder should remake the emperor

Fused to the chair in constant pain

[storm jungle]

preferably concentrated around the testicular region

They already did

its called you

the viewer

[outer wave]

😔

[summer mural]

tbh they just should carry the golden throne around on battlefields like thorgrim on his toilet chair

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[summer mural]

get like a baby titan to carry the apparatus behind it and get 4 custodians to haul it around with the emprah on top

give battlefield buffs

[valid needle]

Just make another throne it’s not that hard

[raven stone]

Reminds me of that 1d6chan joke about Orks looting the Emperor
And making him a tank.

[summer mural]

[raven stone]

Yes he shoots lasers out of his eyes.

[valid needle]

Just grab big god e a stool to sit on whilst the movers take the old throne out to the trash dump and then set up the new upgraded 8K throne.

Easy

Also

Everyone knows it’s failing why hasn’t anyone tried turning it off and back on again?

[summer mural]

well they cant

omegon assassinates them

[vagrant fox]

have a diddy meme

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648179640506122250/1415823679811485806/image.png?ex=68c544cd&is=68c3f34d&hm=15f34a3f160d951c0660c9f69b48fa2b88ba247de485e8ac01296ae448c34de9&

[summer mural]

[valid needle]

Common EC fan

[summer mural]

okay that one got me chuckling

im gonna keep that one

[tough haven]

It cant.

They've clearly stated its some fucked up lovechild of all sorts of stuff to the point where no one can fix it

[celest dome]

It probably can

But it won't

[tough haven]

Wonder what that song is

[summer mural]

eh

cawl will fix it in another 10k years

~~ with some xenos duct tape~~

i wish they hadnt added the bit about the emprah needing to make a pact with the chaos gods to be able to create the primarchs

also they should make a space marine chapter who get mutated over time to be human sized

but still are technically space marines

just midget sized

midget marines

[raven stone]

I find it does add a bit of delicious irony, but I get why it does not sit well.
Also that account is from Horus, so…

[wintry scarab]

Big ups to steam. Made sure to play less than 2 hours of Borderlands 4, yet somehow it says ive got 3 hours on record. Im guessing the game somehow kept running after i turned it off. Still gave me a full refund though. That game runs like utter shit. Super disappointing.

[celest dome]

Careful or we're gonna get a new dude that wil call us, what was it again, despicable ?

[outer wave]

We already had that a couple days ago, didn't we?

The roman PFP guy

[celest dome]

Ye

[outer wave]

I wonder what happened to him