#40k-lore-chat

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opaque coyote
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Zero supplies

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Outdated technology

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Both times

paper haven
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No supplies, terrible equipment, horrific leadership

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Italian soldiers were somehow some of the highest motivated troops in WW1

opaque coyote
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Especially WW1. They literally had a general that just had the same mindset as the average meme game in CS or Siege.

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"Rush"

paper haven
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I think morale was pretty high in WW2 as well but can't actually recall

arctic talon
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Italian soldiers being competent and highly motivated

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Is still depressing to me considering yknow

opaque coyote
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Retreat?

Do actual maneuvers are tactics?

Luigi Cadrona says "just rush"

arctic talon
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Everything else surrounding Italy in both world wars

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
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It is all fun and game until the "polite" Canadian and "criminal" Australian join the game.

opaque coyote
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Sniffing fake glory and power off of his

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Bald

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Bald head

paper haven
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The indomitable warrior spirit vs starving in a muddy trench because some bald fuck had a midlife crisis

paper haven
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Technically speaking, you can't even actually be fascist unless you are Italian.

opaque coyote
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And somebody watches it 24/7 to prevent damage

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And all that

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Personally I think it should be a public bathroom

paper haven
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Crazy to think about

opaque coyote
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Yeah somebody has to stand nearby to prevent people from damaging the tomb

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Or pissing on his grave

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Again, should be a public bathroom

paper haven
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A reminder that he died trying to flee his country like a coward

opaque coyote
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Combo

paper haven
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To avoid military service, right?

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Or did he flee the country more than once?

opaque coyote
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After a part of Italy realized that shit was going bad

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And it was all because of him

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They revolted

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He fled

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To the upper parts of Italy

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And a puppet state was made

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While he was left useless

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And he actually wrote a part of his autobiography during that period

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It is one of the few times we get to see the pov of a conquerer that failed

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The darkest part is that he believed that the world would vindicate him

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And that his beliefs would rise once more

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...

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On some level, he was unfortunately right

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I hope we prove him wrong again

lament shoal
opaque coyote
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Mussolini's

lament shoal
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Oh yeah fuck that guy

opaque coyote
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The guy who made up fascism

surreal nest
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Ive never seen these models before wtf

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These are insane what are they

valid needle
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Big chongus sword guy 1 and big chongus stick guy 2

sour hornet
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Only really in WW1, in WW2 a lot has been said about their "ferocity" that cannot be backed up when you actually break down their engagements

celest dome
sour hornet
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The only actually competent Italian force was the Regia Aeronautica

queen laurel
sour hornet
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and it was supplied in a fashion that could best be described as

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"theoretically"

opaque coyote
sour hornet
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They arent particularly competent either

queen laurel
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wait it's warhammer

looks like a nazgul though

sour hornet
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they have almost no showings of this really anywhere

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like i said, the RA was the most competent force in Italian employ, and it was a ramshackle thing only partially supplied

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the Italian ground forces were an absolute shitshow on every level

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both in command and in terms of its fighting ability

opaque coyote
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Every level

sour hornet
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they were on the defense almost the whole war, it's easier to not collapse like a deck of cards when your enemy has to climb 100 meters to take 100 meters

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in Greece and in NA they got absolute trounced without measure

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its only really in Italy itself that they showed any fighting elan

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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If you had to be in

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One of

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These fucking things

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Against actual tanks

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I wouldn't be that excited

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Imagine being in one of these things during like

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1944

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This was their main tank btw

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The fucking tankette

shadow plover
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it's all a man can need

queen laurel
lament shoal
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Are imperial knight pilots permanently bound to the inside of their knight or can they freely leave them?

shadow plover
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They can leave yes

lament shoal
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Ty

opaque coyote
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Looks fun to drive around

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I would

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100%

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Get one just to drive through the street casually

crystal forum
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dry air keeping the metal from rusting

surreal nest
languid meadow
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Ok so

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trump posted a video about kirk and it looks off

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Like is this AI?

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feels like it and all the comments on multiple platforms feel the same

celest dome
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Apparently

languid meadow
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it feels gross

celest dome
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As usual

valid needle
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Who up civilling their war 2?

surreal nest
valid needle
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I hear we have the greatest military

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The best military

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I looked at our military and said wow that’s a beautiful military

surreal nest
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LMFAO

misty vector
dapper gyro
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When anything happens, it is easy to blame the "left". Because of how the US work, the 2 parties system means people can't really be independent as they would get crushed, many have to align with one of the big party. Therefore each party has a sub faction fighting each other quietly. It is not even a conspiracy.

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The fact that the Orange always assume anything bad to the other side is baffling.

queen laurel
valid needle
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Except our socialist party has become more like centre conservatives and our actual Conservative have become right wing proper

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The only actual socialist party is dwarfed by the two

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Then you have the eco party which just do its own thing

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Then you’ve got the socialist nationalist party and then the alt right nationalists

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World politics are just fucked

dapper gyro
valid needle
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The good part of the UK though

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Scotland

dapper gyro
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Well, it is pretty much Canada, too.

surreal nest
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shit is insane

celest dome
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There is global enshitification every where atm

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It's not yet a full recession yet though

dapper gyro
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Most provinces are right wings, but each conservator hold different values. And they are different from federal conservator.

dapper gyro
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Like Quebec right wings don't like any religions.

celest dome
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1st gif is them watching their neighbour

dapper gyro
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Which is the opposite of other right wings.

surreal nest
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yeah i'd like to report a suspected foreign accent, my neighbor pronounces "orange" weird

celest dome
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Or:

  • My neighbour is a commie
  • My neighbour has blue hairs
  • My neighbour doesn't beat his wife...
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Plenty of reasons for those idiots

surreal nest
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jesus christ we gonna be in another red scare at this point

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not that it ever ended

dapper gyro
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Quebec also has its own federal party, which sometimes fight against the province proper... It is funny sometimes.

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Imagine women voting. /s

surreal nest
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all I know is stay safe my beloved lore chatters the world is a grim place without you

opaque coyote
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two parties

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well it does

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but they are suppressed so much that there's not really any true choices

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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only than those two

languid meadow
queen laurel
languid meadow
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I type this as L'Amérique Pleure starts playing

lament shoal
surreal nest
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bless doakes the best character in tv history

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yeah i said it fuck all my haters

celest dome
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Quintessential "Trust your guts" character

dapper gyro
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Within a nation

queen laurel
celest dome
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Excising the part that aren't "good"

frigid inlet
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Damn this chat is cancer, all yall should he ashamed

celest dome
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Of what

shadow plover
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probably not mourning over a dead fascist mouthpiece clueless

surreal nest
celest dome
surreal nest
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oh his bio has a slur and he follows sweet baby inc detected on steam

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💀

frigid inlet
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Bro got so tilted he checked my steam lol

surreal nest
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God forbid I click 2 buttons to find out why you're angrily ranting in a discord server with no context

shadow plover
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It's pretty obvious thing to do when someone never heard of comes in and says something weird

frigid inlet
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No context, this channel is 40k lore not praising terrorist

surreal nest
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What the fuck are you talking about

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Have you ever read a book before

frigid inlet
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Disgusting

surreal nest
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Wait so was that a no?

dapper gyro
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Brother, 40K is full of stories about terrorists.

shrewd depot
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@pine wedge Yeh so murder this convo

surreal nest
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Dog there's no conversation happening that was like 15 hours ago

dapper gyro
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What do you think Space Marines are?

surreal nest
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This dude is just tweaking in lore chat rn

languid meadow
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I love past midnight chatters

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so interesting

frigid inlet
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Lol

dapper gyro
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The Imperium sabotaging each other, I wonder what it is based of.

surreal nest
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The imperium HAS to be the good guys, they're humans!

shadow plover
dapper gyro
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Watch the 1st episode of Hammer and Bolter, lol.

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Feel something familiar?

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Vindicare Assassin is cool as hell, you think?

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Bloody moral high ground in 40K chat.

frigid inlet
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Read master of mankind

surreal nest
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You first buddy

frigid inlet
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Actually understand tbe plan

frigid inlet
lament shoal
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Is spam the closest thing we have to real life corpse starch?

frigid inlet
surreal nest
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Yet curiously you aren't discussing the lore and instead just naming off books you've read

lament shoal
surreal nest
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I don't feel convinced

frigid inlet
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Yet yall felt the need to mention American politics on the 40k lore channel

shrewd depot
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Spam probably has more meat content

lament shoal
shrewd depot
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I'd say cornbeef is closer

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An amount of meat + sawdust

surreal nest
dapper gyro
shrewd depot
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Talk 40k or fuck off

surreal nest
shrewd depot
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Then report him and block him

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Who the fuck needs a discussion on it

frigid inlet
sacred ginkgo
surreal nest
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I love midnight chatters they're so silly

frigid inlet
shrewd depot
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Being EU proving again to be the worst timezone

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I always get locked in here with the absolute creatures

surreal nest
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Yeah yeah buddy

shrewd depot
dapper gyro
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Soni, go back to explain why Salamanders die in Pariah Nexus despite the can't be neck snap.

languid meadow
frigid inlet
shrewd depot
frigid inlet
languid meadow
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ooo someone was mad enough to check bios

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lmfaoooo

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fucking bozo

frigid inlet
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So if that makes me a bozo what about checking steam accounts lol

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Ill be a bozo then what does that make them

surreal nest
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he's mocking you

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he's mocking you for what you said earlier

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you're being mocked

frigid inlet
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Yes im aware

surreal nest
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i dont think you are man

frigid inlet
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Don't think to much you might blow a gasket

queen laurel
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i mean like we don't over blow it we keep it contained here and we are like civilized in talking

Also we talk about like actual lore these are like few and far between and we have a mod that monitors it so that it doesn't get out of hand

Things happening around the world people naturally would talk about it that's like normal I don't know why you would be offended by that

dapper gyro
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Im hang around this one because people here don't take 40K as seriously as other 40K places.

surreal nest
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Above all else this channel is pretty civil, you're just being a weird asshole

lament shoal
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Bruh I never realized witch was a mod till now lol

languid meadow
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mfs who never talk in here acting like they own the place 💔

dapper gyro
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And 40K is a funny place when people take lore seriously.

frigid inlet
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Im being weird for calling out people who celebrate death

sacred ginkgo
surreal nest
queen laurel
lament shoal
frigid inlet
surreal nest
languid meadow
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woke up just to find a reason to be mad

sacred ginkgo
languid meadow
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crazyyyyy

surreal nest
frigid inlet
celest dome
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I won't weep for someone that condone school shooting.
But I guess that's controversial stance 🤷

frigid inlet
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The amount of fallacies on display here is wild

surreal nest
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any lore you wanna share with us

frigid inlet
surreal nest
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whats your favorite faction

cinder pivot
frigid inlet
queen laurel
languid meadow
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"guys it's not great to celebrate hitlers death he had a famawiyyy"

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💔

valid needle
summer mural
frigid inlet
surreal nest
sacred ginkgo
languid meadow
celest dome
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So how long before they get booted

surreal nest
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You didn't ask me but I really like the thousand sons

surreal nest
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probably more 40k than 30k

frigid inlet
sacred ginkgo
summer mural
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ughhhh thousand sons

valid needle
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Didn’t know Charlie Kirk signed the death warrant of millions of people dang

frigid inlet
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Ahriman is a cool character

surreal nest
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fuck magnus he's a mope

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love ahriman

frigid inlet
summer mural
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magnus isnt op enough tbh

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hes kinda weak for being a primarch, a psyker supreme and a daemon prince

frigid inlet
sacred ginkgo
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Magnus gets dumpstered because he’s allowed to die repeatedly

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Loyalist primarchs aren’t

summer mural
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also he has those nipple horns just to really let people know hes not open to hugs

frigid inlet
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We know who lives and dies

dapper gyro
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If people want to rage bait, they can also go away, no one force you to stay in this server, and you won't force anyone to discuss whatever neither.

surreal nest
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who is the objectively dumbest most half witted primarch

cinder pivot
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lmao

dapper gyro
dapper gyro
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Late?

surreal nest
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I want his biggest flop

frigid inlet
summer mural
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well he is a whiny bitch yes

frigid inlet
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Not as dumb as the all knowing magnus

lament shoal
summer mural
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i dunno whos the "dumbest"

frigid inlet
summer mural
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maybe angron?

frigid inlet
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Angron didnt have a choice

surreal nest
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angron doesnt count

dapper gyro
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Oh, I turned to my work windows for a moment.

summer mural
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magnus had more reasons than morty did to do dumb shit

languid meadow
summer mural
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well

frigid inlet
languid meadow
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they're all dogs

frigid inlet
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Yes but russ isn't a free thinker

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He was told to kill magnus by horus and didnt question anything

surreal nest
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i guess that makes him kinda stupid

frigid inlet
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Even though dad said bring him back in chains

frigid inlet
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Like a dog he follows his masters orders

surreal nest
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for a space wolf both is a given

frigid inlet
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Fair

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But he wouldn't have gone to prospero if magnus wasnt stupid

summer mural
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what about fulgrim

frigid inlet
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In fulgrim it ends with a demon basically controlling fulgrim and making him watch

valid needle
summer mural
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khan is not stupid, hes got the right idea

surreal nest
frigid inlet
summer mural
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hes partying with the drukhari in the webway

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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before SoT

valid needle
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HORUS

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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I prefer it not being a demon

sacred ginkgo
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And hubris makes great storytelling

frigid inlet
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Or resist rather

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Funny enough the 2 best written loyalist are bobby G and the khan

shadow plover
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well when he killed Ferrus he wasn't yet the daemon, no?

dapper gyro
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But he used a demonic weapon.

summer mural
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well, guilliman is kinda de facto leader, and khan has the most individual common sense

lament shoal
frigid inlet
dapper gyro
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The demonic weapons usually host some pretty strong demons.

shadow plover
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Hm could be, it has been years since I listened through Fulgrim

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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but he himself wasn't the daemon yet

frigid inlet
dapper gyro
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Nope, but he was still juiced.

shadow plover
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for sure

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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I think it's good that he regains control but the way it was done was lackluster

dapper gyro
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Much like how Roboute was using the flaming sword to kill demons. It wasn't at full power until the big E projected himself into Roboute.

frigid inlet
summer mural
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also i like lorgar

shadow plover
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to an extent

frigid inlet
summer mural
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lorgar seems like a cool villain

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yeah

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plus his character makes sense

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his greivances are legitimate

shadow plover
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Also Pert is the best written primarch

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then Rob and Khan

frigid inlet
summer mural
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plus, i appreciate how lorgar was like the runtiest of the primarchs

dapper gyro
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Chaos are not the only thing in the warp, and other warp entities themselves constantly fight against Chaos as well.

frigid inlet
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Like he blamed g man for monarchia

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Which wasnt g man's fault

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He was just following orders and it wasnt personal

shadow plover
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"just following orders" isn't really a great defense

frigid inlet
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But lorgar struck malcador and g man in a baby rage

summer mural
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well hes still a corrupted maniac, but i find his position a lot stronger than like, mortarions or fulgrims

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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I guess but the ire against Bobby isn't unfounded in that case

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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yes

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it's the best saga within the heresy

frigid inlet
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Remeber when he yells at gman saying he was enjoying this?

shadow plover
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Yes, he isn't correct in that assumption but the ire he feels against him is somewhat justified is what I mean

frigid inlet
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Then on nuceria g man tells lorgar he was wrong and that g man felt bad but still loved lorgar as a brother

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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yes, both are at fault

frigid inlet
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Though malcador didnt deserve the back hand

frigid inlet
shadow plover
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the destruction of monarchia

summer mural
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its kinda sad lorgar doesnt come up much tbh

frigid inlet
summer mural
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and the fact that he doesnt have the daemon primarch model

shadow plover
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yes but he his justified in his anger nevertheless

frigid inlet
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Yes but monarchia is justified in its self

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Being upset you broke a rule doesnt make you justified when consequences occur

shadow plover
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the consequences were very very extreme still

frigid inlet
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in the context of the setting, no it made sense

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he had told lorgar to stop

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on many occasion

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if monarchia was the first time then yeah thats extreme

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but it was like the last straw kinda ordeal

frigid inlet
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perties primarch novel is 10/10

valid needle
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Someone tell dorn his templar is showing again now he’s hinting for the second time he believes big e is a god.

dapper gyro
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He thinks of it, but it doesn't at the same time. Being worthy and being 1 are different enough.

valid needle
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Just based on the how many times we’ve seen him change his personality and or give contradictory statements.

dapper gyro
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That's the issue with most loyalists.

valid needle
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Like also when he blows up and disowns Sigismund and then later says perhaps Sigismund was right, called Sigismund his best beloved son, gave him and his Templars his favourite ship, gave them the eternal crusade, made them codex exempt.

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It’s like he has split personalities

dapper gyro
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Roboute see the imperium as inefficient, his realm of Ultramar is so run a little differently, and takes a big region of the imperium space.

Corax wants to free people from slavery, but the Imperium is a slave state. RG chapters therefore often ignore requests from other Imperial forces if they think it is too oppressive and they are not liked.

Khan and Russ want to be carefree and enjoy life, but they are tied to their duty.

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Vulkan is in the same situation, plus serve PTSD, questioning his own actions. After HH, he only shows up when absolutely needed.

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Dark Angels just fight everyone... I have no comment.

opaque coyote
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In fact they drop everything to do so

dapper gyro
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Exactly

shadow plover
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Thankfully the returned Lion era makes them more interesting now

valid needle
sour hornet
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just saw a guy with a chinese tattoo that means something like "demonic anus"

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pretty sure thats not what he meant

rocky gale
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Maybe it’s his nickname

raven stone
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Pretty sure tattoo artist was trolling them

valid needle
storm jungle
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Damn I missed another shitshow

valid needle
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Americans popping off frfr

queen laurel
valid needle
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Figuratively and literally

storm jungle
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but close enough I guess

valid needle
queen laurel
# valid needle

i mean you could stay we don't really care it's not like there's a pre established rule here of there's only one sane black Templar

green loom
green loom
queen laurel
vagrant fox
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Nuh uh my Imperium is wholesome everyone gets to die in the guard or press ganged into ships equally

green loom
dapper gyro
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A silly BT fan is much better than a silly Sally fan.

left talon
dapper gyro
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Because silly BT knows that BT is silly.
Silly Sally doesn't know that Sally is not silly.

valid needle
# green loom Reminded of

Or how salamanders are the good guy, wholesome, caring and gentle protectors of humanity. Meanwhile the black Templars, who do everything every other chapters does but for the record did not stomp a child to death like the salamanders did, are the only chapter who are racist mega Uber fascist Nazis.

green loom
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They probably have stomped children to death but that's true of practically all marines since they're

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You know

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Terror troops who love brutality and hate the nebulous "traitor"

dapper gyro
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RG is nicer than Sally, but even them.

storm jungle
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the idea of the Raven Guard is so stupid tbh

vagrant fox
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my heckin' wholesome lamenters, their warcry is made up and they ate people on Badab

storm jungle
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"We fight againts tyrants and help rebellions"

storm jungle
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God I love that SnipeWib video so much

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it started like a mini civil war in the fandom wiki

vagrant fox
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It's very good, funniest thing I ever saw that week

storm jungle
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Yeah for like over 3 weeks the wiki kept changing the warcry from "Unknown" to back to the cherishgloryblabla thing constantly.

vagrant fox
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Yeah last I looked the entry was locked from being edited

storm jungle
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YEP

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Because it legit got very heated

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since half the wiki is run by hardcore space marine fans who are like ex-military or fucked in the head.

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So they really like standing against sensible things

valid needle
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We out here skinning babies frfr on big god khorne

green loom
storm jungle
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^

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its also just an aspect thats basically never explored like the Salamanders for obvious reasons.

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It took us 9 editions to ge ta lore entry where it establishes Salamanders might have to burn people alive, and its just 1 Company.

green loom
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Like being the biggest hypocrite in the room is a feat when it's effectively an imperial necessity

raven stone
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It's all about perspective

valid needle
green loom
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They murdered them

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Since yakno, that was standard procedure lmao

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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It's a weird 40k fan thing, in the GC Sanguinius offers a planet one chance to surrender or total obliteration if they don't accept
So he orders the death of every soul on the planet but you know, Sanguinius is very wholesome also

green loom
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It's funny when people like rank the Primarchs on how bad they were, like we're fr trying to rank Rudolf Hess and Adolf Eichmann or something

storm jungle
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like I love my "nice" space marines but even my heroic homebrew Chapter the Aurum Sons literally gathers people they deem "scum" like slaves in abduction actions and holds them in statis-crypts under their fortress-monastery to feed on them later to sate the black rage/red thrist

green loom
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"Sanguinius was too good for us" nooo he wasn't, oh my Lord no he wasn't

idle phoenix
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Crimson Fists represent

valid needle
idle phoenix
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And you know who never skinned a lil one? Custodes, gottem

storm jungle
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its easier

dapper gyro
storm jungle
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thats the one

queen laurel
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third company moment

storm jungle
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a lot of Sally fans got mad at that lore lmao

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I say they can eat dirt tbh

queen laurel
green loom
storm jungle
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LMAO

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its one aspect thats also never explored yeah

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Good job Ultramarines you saved this planet!

idle phoenix
storm jungle
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Now its population can go back to propagating chaos and genestealer cults because your society is terrible!

idle phoenix
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Nah I'm gamey and salty

raven stone
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You know, on that note...Humans joining Tau, or Tau Humans re-joining Imperium can make for fun plots (even if end results are usually grim stupid)

idle phoenix
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Tau tho, they're blue and bovine

queen laurel
idle phoenix
storm jungle
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you just get shot

dapper gyro
storm jungle
raven stone
storm jungle
vagrant fox
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What's that one quote, don't cross the territory of mankind we have inhumanity to spare

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they'll kill your ass

storm jungle
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yeah like memes aside

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you do not surrender to the Imperium

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you shoot yourself

raven stone
idle phoenix
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The only come back is the Emperor's Grace (a bullet to the head)

storm jungle
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or uh

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going to die in a penal camp

queen laurel
storm jungle
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which is literally just a concentration camp

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lol

green loom
dapper gyro
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Nah, I rather keep a grenade with me.

idle phoenix
queen laurel
idle phoenix
vagrant fox
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I do wonder how sweetmeats taste, maybe a bit like liver

green loom
idle phoenix
raven stone
# storm jungle which is literally just a concentration camp

Such an ugly word, it is "re-education" 😛

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idle phoenix
storm jungle
dapper gyro
#

Young Blood killed the franchise, do you think?

queen laurel
storm jungle
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god i forgot that bit

raven stone
green loom
raven stone
storm jungle
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I WAS GONNA SAY, I know that voice anywhere

rose thorn
#

No new space marine reveal yet, are we finally in an AOS era praise

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We’re free

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Until next week

vagrant fox
#

another space marine lieutenant

storm jungle
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I love how uppity people get when you make this joke when like

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there really is like 12 lieutenant minis arent there?

left talon
# storm jungle

The blood ravens are too good at making marines get the spotlight

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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2 years ago it was 15, who knows how much it has multiplied since

queen laurel
# storm jungle

space marine fans home brewing their own unique chapter ( it's just generic Mary Sue garbage )

left talon
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Mine are literally just blood ravens but the colours are raven guard and iron warriors shoved together it’s peak

vagrant fox
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It's troublesome, I'm constantly unhappy with the one I have for being too generic but I don't want it to be too extraordinary

near wasp
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I haven't put any thought into making a marine chapter

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I've got a chaos warband I'm working on but ehhh

left talon
storm jungle
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ive been making 40k homebrew for over 10 years lol

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I got like 4 marine chapters

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(and tons of other imperial/alien characters and their own factions)

queen laurel
near wasp
#

@storm jungle she's a marine fan get her!

vital ginkgo
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In the blood angels series why is kazarion's right shoulder pad blacked out?

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I assume it has something to do with the deathwatch but he still has the blood angel logo

rose thorn
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so ive given up on making homebrew space marines

near wasp
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Or he just doesn't want to wear personal herealdry

queen laurel
#

This has been like known for a long time

rose thorn
near wasp
#

I know bulgar I'm joking

vital ginkgo
rose thorn
near wasp
#

Black with a red x

rose thorn
#

yeah

vital ginkgo
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Ok I see

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Thanks 👍

storm jungle
left talon
#

I like all factions

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If I don’t they go in the hated section

storm jungle
#

I hate space marines from a commercial standpoint, I like them in the lore.

left talon
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Which they only go as far down as Disliked which is when I wanna seperate them from the ones I’m neutral on

vagrant fox
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I only really struggle with liking Tyranids other than conceptually but there's still neat bits to them

left talon
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I love Tyranids I love how serious some designs are and then the next one is a crawling bug with armour with a massive gun strapped to it

rose thorn
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i would be okay with spacemarine over exposure if there was like 5 more non imperium non space marine factions

rose thorn
vagrant fox
# storm jungle If you want tips ask me, I can help

Yeah I've been playing the 40k TTRPGs since like 2010 so there's no issue making characters but the rest is iffy
The general outline is it's a Raven Guard nomad fleet that got sick and tired of having no supplies so they killed a low strength Ultramarine successor and took their place. Now they hate the Imperium for being moral degenerates and weak but they're stuck because of a bargain they made with the Inquisition to cover up their tracks
Come being stuck on the wrong side of Nihilus they just fully let loose and go full warlord
Other than that I'm just not happy with names or symbols or anything

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So I've just gone to other parts of the sector I'm making, planets can be fun to describe

left talon
#

We have a decent few so far

rose thorn
#

the only non space marine faction left in chaos is chaos knights

left talon
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I just think they need some more models in the tyranid section

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With how they are there’s plenty of ways they could be done that just aren’t

vagrant fox
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Ideally, there'd be more focus on non-marine stuff but it sells by the shitload so it's what GW markets

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I love my World Eaters, maybe my favourites, but I want more non-marine chaos

left talon
rose thorn
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idk if i want the chaos guard army, a non space marine cahso, but i wanna spite boomers

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whats it called

left talon
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That’s 7 factions ish

rose thorn
#

renegades and

storm jungle
#

I at least can kinda am apt at photo editing so I can steal/edit symbols

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(its still very hard to come up with good logos)

left talon
vagrant fox
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I thought about adopting Ostrogoth culture/icons to mimic the barbarian inheritors subdueing Roman culture but it also feels tacky, but appropriately 40k I guess

rose thorn
#

8 xenos, 6 chaos, 6 imperium, 11imperium space marine factions

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unless we dont count the ones that dont have a codex

vagrant fox
#

40kify this bird, jazz it up a little with some throwbacks to 30k symbolism

storm jungle
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Basically minimalist logos is king

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take some of those and vector thme

rose thorn
#

then its 7 space marine factions

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imperium space mairnes*

left talon
rose thorn
#

yeah

vagrant fox
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The only real fluff I wrote for the chapter is them executing the nobles on the planetary capital of the sector and going on a full-on Disco Elysium Measurehead rant about moral degeneracy and weakness

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and then getting clowned on by some eldar

rose thorn
#

if we organize by species

8 xenos (2 are eldar), 12 humans, 11 space marine factions with codexes

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if you coudnt custodies as space marines

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then its 11 humans 12 space marines

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er, talons of the emperor

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(hell)

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to be fiar aos has too many aelves

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4 aelf factions and 3 duardin

left talon
#

Over here they are very similar

rose thorn
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oh yeah humans have, 6 factions in aos

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which is meh because most of htem are a combination of humans and demons and beasts

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stormcasts arent humans*

vagrant fox
#

tbh it's harder to come up with a good craftworld eldar name

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I do understand, I enjoy space marines but they hog a little too much of the limelight

celest dome
rose thorn
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idk if you count demonically ascended people as humans

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ill ask

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okay yeah chaos warriors/s2d are humans stil

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just on that chaos protien powder

spring cairn
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here u go

rose thorn
#

which matches up with lore

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since like 90% of humans are chaos

rose thorn
rose thorn
storm jungle
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HAHAHA

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GOT YOUR ASS

queen laurel
rose thorn
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yeah artifoam

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"Purchase more space marines."

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"Space marines are freedom"

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still think htat black templars shhouldnt have thier own codex

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codex suppliment*

forest orbit
#

it just has so much bloat as well

valid needle
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Nor blood angels

forest orbit
valid needle
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Nor any chapter with unique models

forest orbit
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...Yes?

queen laurel
#

yes

forest orbit
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Idk why these points need repeating.

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lmao

valid needle
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Do you know how large a book would need to be to cover every single chapter with unique models?

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Since that’s usually who gets codex supplements

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Not to mention the price would be sky high and who really wants to pay for a combined codex of chapters they don’t even play. Wouldn’t make sense.

forest orbit
forest orbit
valid needle
forest orbit
vagrant fox
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Supplements aren't very long are they, but even then if you stack five ~100 page books ontop of the codex it gets girthy

storm jungle
#

^

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This is a very fair point imo

forest orbit
storm jungle
#

I was gonna say lmao

valid needle
#

BT codex is 96 and DA is 98. Size of a combined codex plus basically paying for every army when you really only play one or two just doesn’t seem worth it when you can grab a main codex and supplement for most likely a fraction of the price.

storm jungle
#

modern codexes are like extremely streamlined

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the space marine codexes could deffo use it

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not like anyone reads them

vagrant fox
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I haven't played tabletop since like 5th ed so I don't really know what the codexes are like outside of reading the fluff anymore

forest orbit
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since 5th ed

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oof

valid needle
vagrant fox
#

Sounds like more of the same but if they've steamlined it maybe they could trim some of the fat, Idk

forest orbit
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but of course this would make some people upset lmao

vagrant fox
#

Blood Angels are fairly codex compliant iirc so maybe they don't need it, I doubt it honestly

forest orbit
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and I say this as a templar player since the armageddon days lol

vagrant fox
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I can see a case for space wolves and templars for being outliers but whatever, I'll take what gets me the most lore

vagrant fox
#

the woke and women and such

forest orbit
forest orbit
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We dont even have any good/proper lore anymore.

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modern codexes cut out/re-use so much lore and art

storm jungle
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Prob one of the worst parts of them ngl

vagrant fox
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It seemed like that last time I looked at a codex, older stuff popped in to fill space

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Gathering Storm had some cool art though

storm jungle
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Tbh thats 8th edition

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that was like some TOP tier artwork/lore

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for all rulebooks of that time that is

vagrant fox
#

I also might be misremembering, I just think it was some 10th edition rulebook with cool art

rose thorn
# valid needle Why

They aren’t a founding chapter and there is other founding chapters that are non codex complaint

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Salamanders and white scars for example

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I get that black Templars existed as a concept since HH but that new lore

valid needle
vagrant fox
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The Flesh Tearers had a codex at some point I recall

valid needle
rose thorn
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I mean their in universe existence

valid needle
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Rogal dorn founded the black Templars immediately after the Horus heresy from the then Templar Brethren 1st company.

rose thorn
forest orbit
forest orbit
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their fanbase is terrible but they make money

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so I get why GW pushes them

forest orbit
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theres a reason they outshine the Fists

forest orbit
valid needle
forest orbit
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is that a bad thing

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😂

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Ive been in this fandom for years, I do not like the BT fandom

queen laurel
valid needle
#

Also imperial fists lost all their flavour when the 2nd founding was made so it makes sense why they have such a backseat role.

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Black Templars were the legions veterans
Crimson fists were the legions newest marines
Imperial fist the successor chapter was what was left over from the legion.

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We don’t talk about soul drinkers

forest orbit
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They lost their flavor because they arent really invested in as a Chapter

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it has nothing to do with lore

forest orbit
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(considering all that shit is made up on the spot anyway)

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Theres no thing as a bad concept, only a lack of or just simply bad execution.

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Imperial Fists are one of these

valid needle
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Hey at least black Templars themselves have successor chapters. That at least should make them having a codex feel better.

rose thorn
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Do BT have successors? I thought they just go on their own crusades

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Crusade (insert name)

valid needle
rose thorn
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Huh neat

forest orbit
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Yeah it was made by a GW employee for an online post

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if you didnt see that you'd have no idea they exist

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but ye Succs can make their own Succs if they are big

valid needle
#

Silver guard are a lot more established but again they are just suspected not confirmed

valid needle
rose thorn
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I should read more about IF since to my surprise my favorite chapter is a son of dorn

forest orbit
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Just go read their fandom wiki page

forest orbit
#

thats kinda it really, they are pretty basic

valid needle
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Lexicanum if anything but not the wiki it’s highly inaccurate

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Lexicanum at least make you provide sources

forest orbit
rose thorn
valid needle
#

Side note it’s always a son of dorn chapter doing the wildest shit💀

rose thorn
# valid needle Based

I mainly like them because they are greyknights with the aesthetic of word bearers, who’s my favorite legion

valid needle
#

Yeah exorcists are based

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Creepy as shit

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But based none the less

rose thorn
#

Might read the book when I get back into 40K

wintry scarab
#

Im stumped. Firstly, this isnt normal right? This is my M2 SSD and it has no issue running/downloading stuff through steam. Yet epic games is pulling this shit. I dont get it. Grrr

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The fuck is this, dog?! What do you mean 0?!

storm jungle
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Thats steam downloader for you lol

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prob one of the most inconsistent installers out there

wintry scarab
#

Its epic!!!

storm jungle
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LMAO

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Well shit then I dont know KEK

wintry scarab
#

This image is applying to me more and more as the days go by.

vagrant fox
#

Epic is just like that

storm jungle
#

I legit forgot Epic existed hence my Steam assumption 💀

wintry scarab
#

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storm jungle
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LMFAO

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Based as fuck

wintry scarab
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Peak entertainment.

storm jungle
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I literally only gambled once for fun in my life and went "Yep thats it for me."

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legit got no idea why these people do this to themselves lol

queen laurel
#

so many materials and money wasted

wintry scarab
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The only real gambling ive ever done was when i was like 6 on one of these things.

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And i dont regret a penny to this day. That shit had my 6 year old brain hooked. My mum had to pry me away lol

near wasp
vagrant fox
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I had a phase of light gambling because I kept getting close to winning before I figured that's probably intentional

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Otherwise, gambling without real money is decent fun at times

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white black templar jumpscare also

storm jungle
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John Blanche strikes again

rose thorn
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btw this spearhead is almost 50% msrp

tight stratus
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Is there a faction in warhammer based around Priesthood/Religious sect. Not through just the idea of treating emporer as God but through say, bald heads, obviously priestly features, bald heads, heavy symbolism within the figures, robes, books, prayer beads etc

tight stratus
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As I know lots of imperium treat emporer as God but I meant more religious inclined

celest dome
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Cawdor gang

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Or in BF/AoS you have the Warrior Priest

rose thorn
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no?

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oh zealots

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i mean cities ehh

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stormcasts are very roman

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but there isnt like a hardcore catholic monk vibe

vagrant fox
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I was about to say Frateris Militia

tight stratus
celest dome
queen laurel
#

house cawdor inn necromunda

tight stratus
# celest dome

these are pretty cool on the left, I reckon I could maybe get them to a more fancy standard than their more ruffian depictions here

queen laurel
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they are literally religious crazy people that scavenge everything they have

vagrant fox
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Classic goober, this

rose thorn
tight stratus
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KEKW_ogryn what is this image

rose thorn
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sisters is nuns with guns

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admech is robot catholic monks

queen laurel
rose thorn
vagrant fox
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I do like these guys, does the weapon make sense no not at all but it's cool

queen laurel
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That's what they are in AOS

rose thorn
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the specific named dude

tight stratus
queen laurel
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they are the warrior priest

rose thorn
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is what im saying

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Ortam sallismar is dead

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he doesnt have a rep in the game yet

queen laurel
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Weren't they asking if the faction is there

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I was just pointing it out that the faction is a thing but you can't of course buy the model

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but to be fair they aren't really a faction

rose thorn
#

yeh a single model without rules cities is mostly like every european empire combined

queen laurel
#

warpriest are like

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just a group really

tight stratus
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I might just try and see if I can get some little religious bits and do my geneestealers up to look more holy / priestly with a nice black/hints of gold and white paint jobs

opaque coyote
#

This conversation must have happened at least once canonically

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Also Mara casually sipping a juice box

paper haven
#

Xenophobia is an irrational fear. The fear I am experiencing is completely rational.

shadow plover
opaque coyote
paper haven
opaque coyote
#

Seriously though if there is one thing I fully agree with Commissar Cain.

It's that Necrons would definitely be the scariest to fight.

paper haven
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The green laser pointers are always more powerful than the red laser pointers

opaque coyote
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Like Dark Eldar don't do the torture until after the battle

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Just don't let yourself get captured

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The Tyranids, horrific but you will be dead by the time the horrific shit happens

near wasp
opaque coyote
paper haven
#

Please don't be flayed ones.
There's flayed ones.
Fuck!

opaque coyote
#

So in the middle of your absolute agony

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Just

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Shove the Lasgun in your mouth

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Bang

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Should be psychologically easier given the fact that you just got shot with a Deldar weapon

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Of course if you were a regular guardsman. You definitely wouldn't know rhis

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But this is all theoretical anyways

near wasp
paper haven
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I sort of assume the agony of a deldar weapon makes it impossible to move enough to shoot yourself

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Although if I have the ability to still shoot, I'm just gonna keep shooting Eldar.

near wasp
#

Off to the racks with you

opaque coyote
#

And also Chaos.

Still terrifying, fate worse than death, etc.

paper haven
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Whatever they do to me does not match what the ones I kill are experiencing from Slaanesh

opaque coyote
#

Btt

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They are obvious

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Emotional

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Necrons have none (mostly)

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They are harder to kill than Deldar or even Chaos

paper haven
#

My primitive human mind does in fact have an upwards limit to how much it can suffer.

opaque coyote
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So

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And also their weapons are still painful

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You will feel your molecules fucking disassemble

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Facing like hundreds of thousands of Terminator T-1000 (or maybe T-X, that would probably be more accurate) basically would be terrifying

paper haven
#

That does suck.

opaque coyote
#

Speaking of which. The T-X was a cool idea

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Like I always wondered why there wasn't a Terminator that like

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Stored a plasma rifle inside of their arm or something

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Gotta make sure John Connor is 100%

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Dead

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Disintegrated

opaque coyote
#

The video game and the anime shows that

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Terminator actually still has story potential

#

Yes there is a Terminator anime.

Yeah it is actually pretty good

opaque coyote
#

A unique part of it is being set in Japan (OH MAH GOD JAPAN, PLACE!!?)

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But there is actually a cool reason besides it being anime (tm)

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Basically the lack of easily accessible guns due to it no longer being in America

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Both the Terminator and the Time Travelers don't have them

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So the Terminator literally uses a makeshift crossbow

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He literally just makes one

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Attaches it to his arm

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And all of his kills are fucking brutal

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Because he literally does shit like crushing people's skulls

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The classic donut (tm)

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Etc.

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There's more to the anime than that. But it does genuinely make the T-800 fucking terrifying once again

paper haven
#

Is there a duel with samurai swords?

opaque coyote
#

Nope because it's like 1990s japan

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Shockingly enough, not everybody has a katana

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Mostly bats and fists

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Occasionally a revolver stolen from the police (on the Terminator's part)

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Since Japanese police mainly use revolvers due to the lack of guns in Japan

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So they don't need like high firepower

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If that makes sense

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Also less jamming

opaque coyote
#

I don't think it's as good as like

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The first two films

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But it is definitely much better than 3+

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And I'm not saying that because it takes place in Place, Japan

rocky gale
#

You were about to get "Thing in Japan" meme'd

opaque coyote
#

It's good for what it tries and puts it's own spin on the Terminator formula

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...

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Without failing miserably

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Most important part

surreal nest
#

Ok i dont understand space marines can somebody explain what the point of the different companies are just in a generalized sense

opaque coyote
#

And unironically the best the franchise has got since the second movie

surreal nest
#

are they like different types of units seperated like some companies are heavier power some companies are scouts, terminators etc

shadow plover
opaque coyote
#

Each with their own different roles

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The roles vary depending on the chapter

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But it's similar to how militaries today have like

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A tank regiment

surreal nest
opaque coyote
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Heavy weapons

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Etc.

surreal nest
opaque coyote
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For example on differences

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Salamanders have a company specifically made for dealing with riots

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...

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Using flamethrowers

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And by riots I mean like

Wide spread rebellion

surreal nest
#

So what company would a Reiver typically fit into?

median star
# opaque coyote Each with their own different roles

expect iron hands every company or as they refer to them 'clan' is fully independent of one another and all have their own armoury including ships tanks and terminator besides dorrvok which is their 10th company equivalent which is soley scouts

vagrant fox
#

Reivers are close support afaik, so whichever company fields those

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so in the above, 2nd to 5th and 8th

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But non codex compliant chapters can do things very differently

dapper gyro
# surreal nest So what company would a Reiver typically fit into?

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Close_Support_Squad

Close support role is usually up there in the front, but not the main firepower nor holding objectives.

Close Support Squads are an organizational unit in a modern post-Primaris Space Marine Codex-Compliant Chapter.[1]
Close Support Squads are designed for close-range, sudden assault. They are comparable to a clenched fist and often used for the killing blow in battle.[1]

celest willow
#

Hey does anybody feel like all the son’s of dorn seem to be like the exact opposite of him

celest dome
#

Compared to the Black Templars ?

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
# opaque coyote

"I know you were about to kill him. But you didn't need to insult his mom like that man."

dapper gyro
#

The support company doesn't actually hold support units. Support company is mostly for training then pass on to frontline company to refill the number.

opaque coyote
#

Also zoom into the Xeno dialogue

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There is actually a translation

dapper gyro
opaque coyote
# opaque coyote

"Greetings human! It is an honor to have you on our planet! We look forward to hosting you and your retinue at our homes! After a feast, we will share you our archeotech! We have many safely stored STCs that we have recovered! They have been stored for the Imperium!"

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This is what the alien said

lament shoal
#

Anyone know how good genestealer cults are on tabletop?

languid meadow
#

last I heard they were decent no?

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I could be wrong

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nvm

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they uh