It's basically like going into a fucking warzone
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
Sure there is a good chance you will get shot and die
But there is a chance you can get back
spring cairn
which is why my favourite gun in 2077 is the rogue AI smg
opaque coyote
which is why my favourite gun in 2077 is the rogue AI smg
Need more talking weapons
Johnny is not enough
I need more voices
spring cairn
no
opaque coyote
arctic talon
which is why my favourite gun in 2077 is the rogue AI smg
Erebus is hungry
Feed him more
spring cairn
need more weapons that make ppl die screaming
opaque coyote
Jokes aside, I think the funniest piece of dialogue is when Erebus threatens V
And V is like
"Get in line I already got an AI feeding on me"
arctic talon
Funnily enough Erebus isn’t sending them to the blackwall lol
Erebus just handles everything else for the gun
opaque coyote
Funnily enough Erebus isn’t sending them to the blackwall lol
I think he just eats their brain
arctic talon
The blackwall shit is seperate
opaque coyote
No the blackwall eats their brain
Also I think it doesn't send them to the black wall until they die.
Erebus just hacks past their cybernetics and makes them feel pain
arctic talon
He’s curious and he’s also in prison
arctic talon
Also I think it doesn't send them to the black wall until they die.
Erebus just...
No it sends their mind into the blackwall lol
spring cairn
all i know is the sound they make when they die indicates this is one of the worst death you can get
arctic talon
The blackwall tears your mind apart
And process it all into data before extracting what’s worth from it
And dumping the rest
opaque coyote
And process it all into data before extracting what’s worth from it
Yeah but I don't think that happens until they like
Get fully shot
arctic talon
all i know is the sound they make when they die indicates this is one of the wor...
The blackwall is pretty horrific yeah
opaque coyote
?
arctic talon
It’s also an AI itself
opaque coyote
No it sends their mind into the blackwall lol
Also imagining like
V sitting on a couch, eating popcorn
Erebus is on a table
"I WILL CONSUME YOUR DATA AND THEN REND YOUR BRAIN INTO NOTHING."
"Literally already happening to me"
"I- WAIT WHAT."
arctic talon
The blackwall is pretending to be ICE
opaque coyote
"Yeah an AI copy of Johnny Silverhand is doing that already."
opaque coyote
In reality it’s just an AI
Why does it want to block it's fellow AI though
arctic talon
Of anyone and anything who tires to break through
arctic talon
Why does it want to block it's fellow AI though
It’s friendly to humanity
It likes humans
opaque coyote
...
arctic talon
It doesn’t like humans trying to get past it
Or entering it
So it’ll pick apart their brain piece by piece to figure out how they did it and then kill them
It does the same to AIs as well
opaque coyote
Is it weird that now I'm imagining a netrunner casually have a conversation with the blackwall
vagrant fox
Blackwall is my best friend, I talk to it and it doesn't respond
opaque coyote
It doesn’t talk
A one sided conversation with the black wall
arctic talon
And obsessive about self improvement
But yeah the blackwall horrifically murders anyone who tries to breach it and fails
By tearing apart their mind piece by piece
opaque coyote
And obsessive about self improvement
I love friendly entities beyond human comprehension
arctic talon
And stripping it apart for every bit of information possible to further upgrade itself
And then it disposes the rest
opaque coyote
Wait then why can Alt go back and forth between the blackwall
arctic talon
That’s what the blackwall gateway does
arctic talon
Wait then why can Alt go back and forth between the blackwall
She’s figured out a bypass
There’s a few AIs and humans who can get through
But again, a bypass isn’t permanent
opaque coyote
She’s figured out a bypass
I really wish the Blackwall talks because that would be funny as shit to imagine.
"HEY YOU MOTHERFUCKER. HOW DID YOU GET BY ME."
"COME BACK. COME BACK SO I CAN BREAK YOU APART AND FIGURE IT OUT"
"GET BACK HERE!"
"GOD FUCKING DAMMIT-"
"DON'T YOU FLIP THE FINGER AT ME ALT."
arctic talon
Anyways if the blackwall decides one day
It wants to kill everyone
Not much people can do to stop it lol
opaque coyote
Luckily it's friendly
I wonder if net watch occasionally like
Throws a data file into it
Like feeding an animal
"Good job. Here."
yeets a 1 TB drive filled with the IDs of several humans
Blackwall consumes it
arctic talon
I wonder if net watch occasionally like
Net watch does feed it data
It’s basically treated as a homegrown corporate AI by netwatch
honestly the funny thing is the AI in Erebus might be a corporate AI rebound
vagrant fox
Once again Netwatch wins
opaque coyote
Also I think Lucy and her friends somehow got a bypass from the blackwall
They just got most of them eaten
Although it implies that they went in and out for months
Possibly a year or two
So it's not guaranteed death to take trips
Just
95%
It's basically an MMO raid but the consequences for dying are eternal torment and agony
arctic talon
Well it’s not eternal torment
It’s just extremely horrific and painful torment for a few seconds
And then it’s over
opaque coyote
Either way I can imagine a rogue like where somebody found a bypass into the blackwall.
You create a netrunner that goes in
They die eventually
But any data that's gathered acts as permanent upgrades
sour hornet
another day in this cringe imperium
opaque coyote
another day in this cringe imperium
- Gulliman
sour hornet
I just found out there there are a unit of... "battle brothers" called the "rainbow warriors"
vagrant fox
It's basically an MMO raid but the consequences for dying are eternal torment an...
Vault of Glass strikes again
sorta
opaque coyote
I just found out there there are a unit of... "battle brothers" called the "rain...
Guys... Don't tell them about the method that SMs are made from
sour hornet
Anyways if the blackwall decides one day
Luckily it has basically been groomed by humans
sour hornet
Its basically the uncle tom of AIs
arctic talon
It may one day decide it’s tired of this life
sour hornet
Other AI despise it
arctic talon
some other AI don’t give a shit about it tbf
opaque coyote
Luckily it has basically been groomed by humans
...
The worst part is that groomed automatically makes me think of the worst version
sour hornet
Realistic
arctic talon
Also sad they didn’t keep the Johnny silverhands gun makes you go cyberpsycho due to the feedback from it
lol
Then again
He had several pistols
opaque coyote
Cancel Netwatch, they GROOMED the AI
arctic talon
So fucking whatever ig
opaque coyote
sour hornet
Playing 677TB of humanslop directly into its processors
opaque coyote
Also sad they didn’t keep the Johnny silverhands gun makes you go cyberpsycho du...
Tbf it might, V is just immune
Or at least extremely resistant
Since they can go into a maniacal state
But it's temporary
arctic talon
It may just be the ones from cyberpunk red and 2020 lol
opaque coyote
Either way, I hope cyberpsychosis becomes a thing that can happen
Even if it's purely cosmetic
arctic talon
Point being there’s multiple 3516’s lol
Johnny was still a rich asshole
As much as he pretends to deny it
vagrant fox
Didn't Pondsmith say that having Johnny in V's head helps with the cyberpsychosis issue, somekind of buffer
opaque coyote
Even if it's purely cosmetic
Y'know how Maine hallucinated every person as like
Glitchy dark boxes?
I always imagined that if Cyberpsychosis was made more of a thing for the sequel. That you would be unable to like
Discern which is friend or foe in combat
The police indicator would also disappear
arctic talon
Didn't Pondsmith say that having Johnny in V's head helps with the cyberpsychosi...
Yeah he did
opaque coyote
So you could be killing police officers without knowing about since
opaque coyote
Like everybody has a hostile indicator
opaque coyote
Also Johnny was a cyberpsycho as well
What is the difference between like
Cyberpsychosis
And regular psychosis
arctic talon
Johnny blaming everything horrific he did on “the hand”
opaque coyote
So you can’t really make a cyberpsycho go cyberpsychoer
Some people can become like "functional" cyberpsychos
Where they become heartless but not necessarily berserk
arctic talon
Like wasn't Johnny a soldier?
He was
Also Johnny absolutely went fucking crazy sometimes
opaque coyote
And I always thought that if they implemented that. That the protagonist should be able to become a functional one.
arctic talon
Such as randomly firing into the crowd and blowing someone’s head off because he saw a corpo attending a concert
lol
opaque coyote
Such as randomly firing into the crowd and blowing someone’s head off because he...
Honestly that type of cyberpsychosis seems easier to implement into gameplay.
Also based
Still baded
opaque coyote
*based
arctic talon
Beyond personality ones
arctic talon
He had horrific PTSD, was an alcoholic and drug addict
opaque coyote
He had horrific PTSD, was an alcoholic and drug addict
Expected.
Honestly at this point, he could've just had regular psychosis and he just blamed the arm
Either that or he just had an extremely low humanity stat
arctic talon
Tbh him making his personal 3516 give feedback straight to his fucking brain is insane
lol
arctic talon
Everytime he shot someone it would give him “good” feedback
opaque coyote
Tbh him making his personal 3516 give feedback straight to his fucking brain is ...
My personal theory about David is that the reason why he had high cybernetic adaptation wasn't due to anything special with his genetics.
He just had a decent life before his mom died.
So being a young, actually well raised, teenager
He could apply more cybernetics due to his mental state.
Only when Maine and Dorio died
Did he start having symptoms of cyberpsychosis
His mental health was crashing down further and further
opaque coyote
David had high humanity
Yeah and I think that high humanity was from
Having a not shitty upbringing
arctic talon
He was incredibly human, he lived about as normal and good of a life as he could have
opaque coyote
Like it wasn't perfect but his mom clearly loved him
He didn't have any real trauma until his mom died
And that he wasn't actually special for handling the sandy
People just went insane because Night City fucking sucks and so a lot of people had low humanity due to it
And therefore couldn't handle the sandy
The trick to not going cyberpsycho
Is to have a good life!
...
In night city
arctic talon
Oh yeah funnily enough cyberpunk red has a precursor to David’s sandevistan
Or if you play the mission kit it is the same thing
lol
opaque coyote
Oh yeah funnily enough cyberpunk red has a precursor to David’s sandevistan
Honestly I just wish for a mod that allows for like
The same effect for sandy movement as the anime
Like
That looks fucking cool
arctic talon
Maybe in the sequel lol
opaque coyote
I also think one of my favorite moments is when you could see David's sandy movement in real time
arctic talon
Anyways David’s sandy is special despite looking like a militech apogee
opaque coyote
Anyways David’s sandy is special despite looking like a militech apogee
I think it's mentioned to be a prototype
arctic talon
You get a better then normal sandy boost
Except you take a hit to humanity
Everytime it activates m lol
arctic talon
I think it's mentioned to be a prototype
It’s an experimental prototype yeah
opaque coyote
It probably doesn't help that he got it by
Literally being awake during surgery
Like bro what the fuck
arctic talon
Skill issue
opaque coyote
All the other ripperdocs put you under
opaque coyote
gets away with it
arctic talon
David was broke at the time
opaque coyote
Seriously the only reason why I didn't shoot him is because it would make life even worse
arctic talon
So that’s why he doesn’t get anesthesia lol
opaque coyote
I did knock him out though
arctic talon
After that he was just spending all his cash on cyberware
And could take the pain in his eyes rather then paying for anesthesia lol
Is my bet
opaque coyote
And could take the pain in his eyes rather then paying for anesthesia lol
Honestly I think he actually got regular anesthesia after the sandy
Cause he made enough money to do that
opaque coyote
Cause I think the sandy is the only time where he had the bite bar
opaque coyote
We see when he gets the lungs
...
arctic talon
He does not pay for anesthesia
arctic talon
I’d call doc a dick but he obviously cares in his own fucked up way
opaque coyote
Yeah no wonder he got turned in a cyberpsycho
David is stupid
I still like him though
But also WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU VOLUNTEER TO HAVE SURGERY AWAKE
Like bro that is my nightmare
If there is one thing David has
It's pain tolerance
opaque coyote
Seriously though one of my nightmares
Is like
Getting enough anesthesia so that I can't move
But I still feel like the pain
And everything
But I can't scream or move
And yet David is like
"Bro 3000 eddies for anesthesia? Just give me the bite bar."
💀
crystal forum
the first time i had a cavity removed the dentist didnt give me enough anesthetic
and i thought it was normal to feel the drill bore into my roots
not very fun
opaque coyote
and i thought it was normal to feel the drill bore into my roots
Ah hell naww
Nahhhh
Nahhh
vagrant fox
innit
I've gone to a German dentist and they gave just enough to numb the pain but I could still feel it
She grabbed my tooth with a huge plier and just yanked it out and the other did a root canal and I could feel it just no pain
dapper gyro
If they numb you to the point of having no feeling at all, it would be more terrible.
crystal forum
you're definitely not supposed to feel a cavity removal
since it was extremely painful
opaque coyote
since it was extremely painful
Bruh I would be screaming like a baby
I like to think that my pain tolerance is average
But that would definitely have me screaming
This is assuming that I am awake and able to scream btw
I had a wisdom teeth removal
I got the type that had me go under
It was surreal to black out and then wake up in a fucking wheelchair
vagrant fox
The getting put to sleep for wisdom tooth removal seems excessive to me, it wasn't that bad awake
crisp heath
I can't handle the feeling of my teeth being drilled lmao
vagrant fox
It is mildly uncomfortable to hear the drill through your jaw but at least a mildly interesting experience as well
winged jacinth
The getting put to sleep for wisdom tooth removal seems excessive to me, it wasn...
your wisdom teeth can be wildly variable in terms of ease of extraction
my wisdom teeth were "impacted" which means they had to chisel them apart inside my jawbone 🙂
some people dont need them taken out at all
lament shoal
I had a wisdom teeth removal
Had that procedure too, the recovery period was ass. The antibiotics they had me take gave me the shits, my face swelled up like a balloon, I could barely eat solid food, and I'd drool blood all over my pillow in my sleep
Not fun
Also having to spit out tooth shards every now and then
crystal forum
based
winged jacinth
yeah like i said how bad it is depends entirely on how bad those teeth are shoved into your jaw lol
it can be barely more than a tooth pulling or it can be like a major bone surgery
dapper gyro
That's the issue with strong dose of pain relief, it doesn't stop just pain, but pretty much every other feels on your face. Strong enough, your muscle is close to being paralyse.
winged jacinth
i hate the feeling of local dental anesthetic yeah lol
like a quarter of your face is just frozen
dapper gyro
Dosage scales with the operation they do. Been there, got that.
One of my tooth is filled with metal.
lofty mason
It feels kinda strange seeing a baseball cap in 40k
lofty mason
Does Crocs exist in 40k?
winged jacinth
i like to think thats the only kind of shoe you can get in a hive
they're molded in one go from rubber they're as efficient as can be
dapper gyro
Does Crocs exist in 40k?
Yes
You also have modern ski goggles, jacket and a bunch of other current fashion stuff.
winged jacinth
its so funny that crocs probably wouldnt exist now if idiocracy hadnt used them as the example of an idiot shoe
dapper gyro
Not common, but there are.
winged jacinth
they bought enough of them making the movie to keep the company in business and then the publicity let them take off lol
crocs are kind of a supremely utilitarian shoe and i imagine a lot of shoes in 40k are like them
lament shoal
It feels kinda strange seeing a baseball cap in 40k <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
Bro that hat's probably a relic lmfao
Because who wears those in 40k
dapper gyro
ripe hare
Because who wears those in 40k
they’re probably worn pretty commonly by people in hives, we just don’t see them much cause regular civilians aren’t really the focus of a lot of warhammer stuff
crisp heath
like a quarter of your face is just frozen
And No matter how much anesthesia you get you can still feel the vibrations and hear it which is what does it for me lol
crystal forum
man helldivers lore really sucks
crisp heath
I think it's fine
crystal forum
it's badly managed
and poorly communicated
i see people glazing it by acting like it leaves room for imagination
crisp heath
I like how it doesn't take it self as serious
crystal forum
but nah that's not room for imagination it's straight up a lack of worldbuilding
was arguing in the server's lore channel about that then somebody compared helldivers lore to half life lore
crisp heath
It is down to personal preference aswell tho
crystal forum
i dont think it is if it's objectively badly organized
if the setting has big gaps in the story
crystal forum
that's just the surface level
see? you arent even aware that there's actual lore
because it's just that badly communicated
crisp heath
I am aware of the lore lol
crystal forum
woops just got banned from it apparently
crisp heath
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't inherently make it bad
crystal forum
couldn't have happened sooner
god that server sucks
probably didn't help that i told a dev that his game was trash
crystal forum
it's funny that the thing that really did it was me arguing about half life lore being better written than helldivers lore though
crisp heath
I think I did join thar server for a bit but it doesn't have the same sorta community this one has
Mb just me
crystal forum
nah it has a god awful community
it's a mainstream game which makes it worse
everybody's super toxic
crisp heath
Oh i just saw there was just no one talking In chat
crystal forum
but toxic in the "uwu just kidding" way that doesn't get you banned
crystal forum
Misery
oh the misery
any discussion about balance is immediately sidetracked by all the super pro players who want to really let you know how easy the game is
crisp heath
Ummm
crystal forum
and how you're at fault for the game sucking
crystal forum
this game is good though
outer wave
It still happens here, lets be honest
crisp heath
Lore chat is pretty 
crystal forum
it is
it's cozy mostly
it's always a fine balance with chat member numbers
too many chatters and it's helldivers server where everybody's just toxic
surreal nest
if the setting has big gaps in the story
I mean their stories are done through in game events and news stories, Helldivers 1 had a pretty engrossing story
crystal forum
i will admit HD1 has better story
HD2's story is just way too slow and it's not deep at all
i can understand when lore is being written by like 1 guy and it takes a while to flesh out
surreal nest
It really never was deep thats not a real criticism
crystal forum
read up more on the lore
surreal nest
I plenty have
crystal forum
there's stuff to be found in it
surreal nest
I am a helldivers 1 shitter
crystal forum
and anyways the lack of depth is exactly what my complaint was
i never played HD1
idc about it frankly
im only looking at HD2
crystal forum
i know its lore
crystal forum
guess what
it's the same engine as darktide
it's like the only two IP's using it too
surreal nest
Im not gonna change your mind but not every story is wanting to tell you a deep story with layers and thats not a legitimate criticism in my eyes
surreal nest
Im gonna go swing on my cool playground now
crystal forum
Im not gonna change your mind but not every story is wanting to tell you a deep ...
that's just saying you like slop
im sorry
surreal nest
No that isnt thats so dumb
You interrupted my swinging
Its such a dumb standard that every single story for every single thing needs to be deep simplistic story telling is a legitimate thing
Just because a universe doesnt have its own wiki links with random shit about random fluff doesnt make it inherently worse than something that prides itself in deep story
opaque coyote
your wisdom teeth can be wildly variable in terms of ease of extraction
Yeah I think all four of mine were sideways
So
crisp heath
like just dont play it or read up on the lore 🤷♂️
Godamn
All mine are like perfectly straight somehow , one is bursting through my jaw tho
crystal forum
Its such a dumb standard that every single story for every single thing needs to...
yes it is a thing, and people seem to not recognize the difference between good and bad lore regardless of depth
like just because you understand words and can string sentences together doesn't mean you can write a book
people take it at face value that because a story has elements they understand then that automatically means it's quality
that's just slop brain
surreal nest
Thats not what im saying at all though, sounds like we dont disagree
Depth doesnt make a story inherently good or bad
crystal forum
i'm not saying you think like this
im mostly just bitching about helldivers glazers rn tbh
crystal forum
also trust me i'm an anti world building autism fanatic
i hate when worldbuilding is 90% of the lore
sick copper
Ok I'm confused. Are Machine Spirits real? Like a really real not like people believe them to be and so there's a small warp effect to make things work.
crisp heath
There's a ship from the heresy that's machine spirit is piloting it iirc
sick copper
Soooo...are they like rudimentary AI?
crisp heath
It hates traitors im pretty sure , nah its abut different
crystal forum
nobody really knows
crisp heath
But yeah
sick copper
Or the equivalent of Mass Effects V.I? Hmm...
crystal forum
sometimes it's a literal soul
sometimes it's a machine interface
it varies with the story
welcome to 40k lore
you will rarely get concrete answers on broad questions
crisp heath
It's like a bolter has a machine spirit I'm pretty damn sure
sick copper
There's also a scene in one of the games that makes me wonder. Where a cogitator is giving weird error messages like "Error: 14/7 HELP and INJURY" and then like. Explained that that sometimes happens cuase one of servitors that's hooked to it for extra processing power is malfunctioning...like a piece of a person is still in the servitor and that's the only way it can call for help...
crisp heath
There's that short comic about one that's left behind on a dead world
And the whole time you think it's the astartes talking
I'm not sure If it's cannon
But cool none the less
sick copper
Me thinks do to the small latent psychic potential and the prevalent belief in Machine Spirits that they weren't a thing then became a thing. Like Orks and red ones go fasta or the so called Miracles sent by the Emperor
crystal forum
that's not how it works
the emperor is straight up his own warp presence because he's an extremely powerful psyker
the likes of which is uncomparable with any other psyker
he does his own miracles if you can call them that
there is no power of belief in 40k like there is in D&D
crisp heath
Orks kinda
crystal forum
the one orks have is much weaker than you think
sick copper
Wait...does the Imperium know that the Emperor was a Psyker?
crystal forum
yes
crisp heath
Yes
crystal forum
the emp is beyond any morality
crisp heath
the one orks have is much weaker than you think
Iirc it's just like allowing there tech to work when it kinda shouldn't
crystal forum
he is a god to the imperium
crisp heath
Like most of their stuff works
crystal forum
his witchery is seen as divine power
crisp heath
But some of it is just ridiculous
I'm probably wrong here actually
Don't listen to me
sick copper
Ok...so why are Psykers treated like garbage. Nothing more than glass cannons to be burned up on a leash? Like, I get the background temptations and stuff but most Psyker violence is either newbs who have no idea about this stuff doing accidental murder or leashed and brainwashed to throw at the enemy...or burned up to fuel the throne.
Why arnt they more revered?
sacred ginkgo
They have a habit of exploding
crystal forum
because unsanctioned psyklers are dangerous
sacred ginkgo
or summoning daemons
crystal forum
also imperium being biggoted
crisp heath
1 pskyer can cause a demon incursion and completely destroy a planet
They also have a habit of turning into warp spawn
That's why most of them are culled
Sent to the black ships
crystal forum
it's mostly because the imperium is a pos tbh
crisp heath
That too
crystal forum
like blanks dont have any reason to be hated
crisp heath
Big e uses 1000 a day or something to keep the light that comes from terra lit
sick copper
I get that but in the most well known instances it's because a newb, who hadn't been taught about chaos like most of the Imperium, got tempted. Usually cuase they were being mistreated and abused. Like that one planet where an abused kid on an agro world just wanted the pain to stop and then boom! Nurgle incursion.
crisp heath
Id rather be around a blank tbh
sick copper
The Imperium seems to be the architect of their own misery lol
crisp heath
Speaking of chaos is heresy
The astartes were not even warned
Which is why half of them fell
crystal forum
The Imperium seems to be the architect of their own misery lol
now you're getting it
crisp heath
Same kinda thing how worship feeds chaos
Emotions and thoughts directly feed the warp
Helplessness hope despair ect ect
Choas gods love it
winged jacinth
"we shouldnt tell anyone about chaos in case they get tempted"
(person stumbling across chaos anyway) "i dunno what this stuff is but it seems pretty good"
this seems like a place of honor
crystal forum
and this is why
winged jacinth
maybe esteemed deeds are commemorated here
crystal forum
magnus should have been shot in the head
i rest my case
#magnusdideverythingwrong
dapper gyro
The Imperium seems to be the architect of their own misery lol
New to 40K lore?
winged jacinth
you can even get him in the eye and its not that much of a trick shot
crystal forum
you did not
eye jokes? man that's pretty mean
can't you see he's already born with red skin and nipple horns
sick copper
New to 40K lore?
Only been in surface level backdrop stuff. Shits so insane
crystal forum
life's tough when you're tzeentch's bitch
winged jacinth
magnus dont fuck up in the worst way possible challenge
crystal forum
falling for the most obvious trap ever
winged jacinth
emperor tell magnus anything challenge
crisp heath
crystal forum
couldn't have just sent a text message
crisp heath
Smdh
winged jacinth
one of many things the emperor decided wasnt worth reproducing
dapper gyro
Only been in surface level backdrop stuff. Shits so insane
It will down the deeper you dig into the lore.
sick copper
Like, good people don't exist in this universe at all! Even the less shitty ones are either misogynistic, Racist, Facist...how can anyone genuinely like these characters?
sacred ginkgo
Cause they're cool or good on tabletop
crisp heath
Like, good people don't exist in this universe at all! Even the less shitty ones...
Have you heard of votaan
There probably the most chill
winged jacinth
Like, good people don't exist in this universe at all! Even the less shitty ones...
A lot of the characters are fine but stuck in horrid systems
crisp heath
Depending but usually they have relatively good lives
winged jacinth
No nice factions exist because they've all been gunned down
crisp heath
Kindness is certainly weakness in the 41st millennium
dapper gyro
There are nice people, but they are usually ultra depressed.
winged jacinth
You don't get to exist unless your society is on some form of permanent war footing
crystal forum
No nice factions exist because they've all been gunned down
excuse me, you forgot orks
orks are the faction i'd like to be
just being happy in the horrible world
crisp heath
Don't orks have a slavery system
outer wave
Orks do in fact use slaves
winged jacinth
Just grow big
crisp heath
And they also rip the arms of humans for fun
winged jacinth
Fight!
crystal forum
and in my power fantasy im born a big ork
crisp heath
But yeah being a freebooter warboss would be cool
winged jacinth
Punch faces get teef
winged jacinth
Maybe crush grot or two
crystal forum
that goes without saying
crisp heath
The bigger orks who have been fighting for a long time aren't stupid either
winged jacinth
Is the artillery gun that fires snotlings through the warp still a thing
sick copper
It's so fucked up it's hilarious. Like in one instance a prison gets a new warden and the warden makes "Radical borderline Heretical" changes. Like, 3 meals a day, rotating days off, Exercise time, No random beating that arnt punitary. Everyone including the inmates thought he was insane!
crystal forum
yup
crystal forum
Is the artillery gun that fires snotlings through the warp still a thing
it even has a model
crisp heath
Ghazgulls like 18 foot tall or something he grows more the more gitz he krumps and the more orkz rally to his waaagh
winged jacinth
It's so fucked up it's hilarious. Like in one instance a prison gets a new warde...
To be fair he does do it out of heresy
crisp heath
He's probably close to becoming a prime ork or krork tbh
crystal forum
It's so fucked up it's hilarious. Like in one instance a prison gets a new warde...
the best part is he still gets fucked over in the end for being nice
sick copper
To be fair he does do it out of heresy <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Lol, my view is he fell to heresy cuase the chaos gods were the only ones that would listen...and once they get their hooks in ya your changed for the worse
crystal forum
He's probably close to becoming a prime ork or krork tbh
orks cant become krorks
crystal forum
yeah
crisp heath
Will he evet stop growing
crystal forum
the beast was much much bigger than gazgul
winged jacinth
He probably is approaching peak ork performance
crystal forum
but this is beast lore and should be memory holed
crisp heath
If he gets to 100 feet Tall we may have a problem lol
crystal forum
forget i mentioned the beast
winged jacinth
Lets lol
winged jacinth
Ork lore in general makes more sense without the entire arc
crystal forum
If he gets to 100 feet Tall we may have a problem lol
the beast was like titan sized
crystal forum
it's just very bad lore
winged jacinth
Its so funny
crystal forum
it takes the setting's wackiness and goes to 11 with it
winged jacinth
Why have gargant instincts if orks ever got that big lol
crystal forum
like most space marines die
i think literally all imperial fists die
for some fuckass ork
winged jacinth
Ok now im turning around on it
crystal forum
the funniest part of beast lore is the reveal that sinderman lived 1000 years
longest living normal human in the setting by a HUGE margin
WAIT
1500 years
crisp heath
Is he unhinged at all?
You'd think being around this long would make you very unhinged
crystal forum
he pretty much helped create grey knights
he's in the first HH books
he's a C-list HH character
sour hornet
question
sour hornet
did c*dia explode into large chunks or dust when it got what it deserved?
crystal forum
in fact there's a short story where a bunch of kasrkin return to a floating piece of kasr
crisp heath
I'm pretty sure
sour hornet
im imagining a marine fighting on one of the chunks
"I survived because the prejudice inside me burned brighter than the planet around me."
crystal forum
as in, a literal chunk of the ground that stayed intact enough for the fortress city to be in one piece
sour hornet
in fact there's a short story where a bunch of kasrkin return to a floating piec...
I hate them but that is strangely heartwarming
legitimately
crystal forum
i know you're illiterate but please read cadia stands
crisp heath
It's a pilgrimage sight or something iirc
crystal forum
it is so fucking funny sometimes
sour hornet
I will attempt
crystal forum
at least listen to it
crystal forum
maybe
sour hornet
im tripping i think, idk
sour hornet
tgat isnt the sheep i remember
crystal forum
odd right
crisp heath
Yeah its called the shrine of Marty's
crystal forum
where did that come from
sour hornet
Is there a club? With membership cards?
sour hornet
Not Marty's <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Hundreds of Martin O'Donnell's with horrible takes and huge egos
sour hornet
and wacky sex
I can get on board with those ideals
crystal forum
‘This comes direct from Creed, he honourably requests you to redeploy on the Alpha Curtain Wall, southern quadrant. You’ll do more good there. His words, sir.’
'He wishes us to retreat?’ Amalrich broke in, his eyes still on the battlefield, but no longer pretending not to listen.
'They are calling it a redeployment, Marshal.’
'Let us leave the twisting tongues to the Word Bearers. It is a retreat. And we shall not do it. This is the Martyr’s Rampart, brother, not the Redeployment Rampart or the Tactical Withdrawal Rampart. Not the Coward’s Rampart. It was built to stand, and stand we shall until we can stand no more.’
sour hornet
💀 💀 💀
crisp heath
So chad
crystal forum
I can get on board with those ideals
trust me it can only improve your gay ass life
the BT in the book stay on the forward line of defence so long that the rampart literally crumbles before them
like the point of that rampart is only to slow down the enemy
you're supposed to fall back
it's the entire point of the defence grid
BUT THEY KEEP FIGHTING
crisp heath
Sigismund just wasn't taking any ls during the heresy
crisp heath
Oh right
sour hornet
So chad
Telling the fucking Word Bearer to have faith is fucking hilarious. Reminds me of the voice line where Fem Seer tells Male Fanatic to "just have a little faith" and he crashes out 💀
crisp heath
Havnt read this mb
crystal forum
then i will spoiler but'
they decide to get into their thunderhawk and ram into the enemy lines
with the main guy on the open ramp with his sword raised
just yelling
crisp heath
lament shoal
Black templars after executing the civilians who called for their help because they didn't try hard enough to repel the attackers
sour hornet
Black Templars are so fucking based when an enemy threatens them with dying in a pointless meatgrinder and they all just collectively dont give a shit
crisp heath
Black templars after executing the civilians who called for their help because t...
Just imperium tings
Nothing new smh 💀
sour hornet
Black templars after executing the civilians who called for their help because t...
Black Templars when you tell them that we have a fancy thing called "resource management" and that we don't need to pointlessly beat civilians to death with our hands.
sour hornet
And regular psychosis
They are the same thing
sour hornet
Some people can become like "functional" cyberpsychos
A cyberpsycho is just a normal mentally damaged person, who has extensive cybernetics. Cybernetics can accelerate cyberpsychosis, but its very blurry.
Give your average guy cyberarms, and he's likely fine, if he follows post-implantation procedures. Give a guy who is struggling with his concept of himself and who he "really is" a set of cyberarms, and the dysphoria might send him over the edge.
winged jacinth
fursona has to be at least a 20 year old phrase
winged jacinth
cyberpsychosis does seem to stem from like, integration problems at least in some cases in cyberpunk2077
several of the missions talk about people getting or being required to get implants they arent pre-trained for
sour hornet
Oh 100%, in the case of integration issues, most of these people weren't in the right mindset to death with these issues in the first place.
winged jacinth
sometimes replacing too much sometimes the replacements are too high spec
crisp heath
I still need to play cyberpunk
crisp heath
I heard it's good now
sour hornet
People with heavy amounts of combatware typically arent using them for mentally healthy occupations
winged jacinth
i think there's an intentional undercurrent of "implants really are only kinda safe but its very inconvenient to talk about"
cough neuralink cough
sour hornet
Well, implants that make you better than you were tend to have that happen.
Normal complete limb replacement is common even on children
No mental issues
winged jacinth
also getting chipped with broken hardware can fuck you up bad
even if your penis doesnt light on fire
winged jacinth
yeah its a mature science but it seems like theres an intentional supression of news of issues, which makes sense because the implant manufacturers are in charge
crystal forum
these newgen terms
that's like saying twink is a new word
it's not new you're just not a faj
winged jacinth
i think it might be patch content but its also implied that maxtac is full of cyberpsychos which brings the whole term into question
crystal forum
anyways
crisp heath
Someone actually tried to say this not far back haha
sour hornet
Oh yeah, but I feel like its a case of implants which are fine on properly trained, mentally resilient corpo agents, but poorer on Jenny, the cashier.
sour hornet
i think it might be patch content but its also implied that maxtac is full of cy...
Not patch content, OG content, and mostly true, though often hyped up.
crystal forum
i like how mrbeast isn't #1
im sure it will change soon
youtube can't let actual community decisions matter
sour hornet
MaxTac is split into halves, with one half consisting of normal officers that ascended 'upwards' into the role—and the reconditioned former-cyberpsycho officers.
crisp heath
Idk I think most people actually enjoy this slop content
Everything's tic toc and youtube shorts now it's cringe
crystal forum
oh wait
sour hornet
Most people, I find, are barely ensouled.
crystal forum
hype spreads faster the smaller the channel is
crisp heath
It's a generational thing I thinks
crisp heath
Ahhhh
crystal forum
jk i dont have herpes
crystal forum
i have syphilis
crisp heath
oh no
crystal forum
speaking of the topic i just brought up
do you guys knows about tertiary syphilis
it's so fucked up
crisp heath
Is that coldsores?
crystal forum
late stage syphilis
crisp heath
Oh nvm
crisp heath
Cold sores are also herpes im pretty sure just a different strain
crystal forum
please dont look it up btw
for your own sake
but
here is a sculpture of man with tertiary syphilis
it just really deforms your head
this is what people had to deal with before modern medicine
lament shoal
here is a sculpture of man with tertiary syphilis
Ogryn
crisp heath
for your own sake
Yeah no not doing that 💀
crystal forum
thankfully this is very late stage
which happens if you have it untreated for like 5 years or more
it's a very treatable disease
which makes you wonder why it hasn't been eradicated yet
crisp heath
Sounds awful . Genuinely
unique bronze
unique bronze
Now make one of Peter
cinder pivot
here is a sculpture of man with tertiary syphilis
This image is tame to other images I looked up. There were people with syphilis conditions so late which ||their faces seem to deform inside out.||
rose thorn
Another LoV killteam???
celest dome
Or Munda
tough haven
Is there any lore on what the mark from a deathmark looks like?
celest dome
place a mark in the shape of a green halo over the head of their target, which allows them to track it no matter where it runs - hence their name
rocky gale
A concerning notification to get
queen laurel
A concerning notification to get
Oh hell nah I know that PFP bro just run
celest dome
Isn't that from Chainsaw-man or something
tough haven
> place a mark in the shape of a green halo over the head of their target, which...
And only the deathmark and the afflicted see it yes?
unique bronze
valid needle
Black templars after executing the civilians who called for their help because t...
So based and true
celest dome
And only the deathmark and the afflicted see it yes?
Unknown
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-space-marine-adeptus-astartes...
The fact that they had to make this deathmark act like a complete idiot for half of this kinda goes to show how OP they are in reality ngl
tough haven
The fact that they had to make this deathmark act like a complete idiot for half...
Ikr, I kinda like it
summer mural
that deathmark seemed like he was getting a lil sassy with szeras
storm jungle
Ikr, I kinda like it
no
storm jungle
that deathmark seemed like he was getting a lil sassy with szeras
Tbh hes right
hes being sent out to wrap up stragglers
deathmarks are usually for high priority targets
summer mural
well
he didnt do the best job did he
i also hate how sakan just tracked him down offscreen
and then killed him in a call with szeras
static wren
summer mural
just to be like " I am sakan, I am strong, you are szeras, you die!"
storm jungle
i also hate how sakan just tracked him down offscreen
thats what you get with plot armor
at least they kinda excused it with him being damaged
...by some zombie guardsman, who can just damage necrodermis
(which self-repairs in lore)
summer mural
zombies are the greatest threat
they work by being so irritating people just start taking dmg
like in darktide
storm jungle
dapper gyro
The SoB spent a few dozen rounds on mind controlled guards would dry her of any ammo to fight in any scene after. Unless she can pull more magazine out of her ass by the big E's will.
dapper gyro
Over kill ammo, barely kill more than 1 person per shot. Automatic RPG my arses.
humble shoal
The SoB spent a few dozen rounds on mind controlled guards would dry her of any ...
Who says she doesnt have some
queen laurel
oh SISTERS OF BATTLE
"i'm into SOB"
which one
humble shoal
"i'm into SOB"
which one
... both
raven stone
Rumour engine looks like a Votann shotty
rocky gale
Third wave
rose thorn
votaan corspe on a space marine mini
crystal forum
"i'm into SOB"
which one
i have never seen a waist pendant before
seems a bit inconvenient
celest dome
The new Dark Eldar one has one
storm jungle
its like on half their minis
storm jungle
seems a bit inconvenient
this is 40k, theres no "inconvenient"
languid meadow
let that shit hang sister
languid meadow
votaan corspe on a space marine mini
you know your faction is great when it gets added to a SM mini
crystal forum
this is 40k, theres no "inconvenient"
i was making a joke you HAG
storm jungle
i was making a joke you HAG
crystal forum
tutel
crystal forum
you know your faction is great when it gets added to a SM mini
then why are there nids corpses on sm models?
languid meadow
Because most of the nid models are good
unique bronze
whats wrong with penguins
queen laurel
They'd probably eat people if they could
Ah yes the bird spectrum
unique bronze
well that.. kinda goes for like most animals if you go with that🤣
celest dome
Penguins are the worst birds
vagrant fox
all animals are satanic little shits
crystal forum
birds make too much noise i hope they all go extinct due to climate change
queen laurel
the average american when you tell them that birds are real
crystal forum
penguins are cute they should be reclassified to lizards
celest dome
Ah yes the bird spectrum
queen laurel
oh yeah my favorite bird
vagrant fox
They should be annihilated along with all other land walkers, crawlers, and above land fliers except man who was made in gods image
etc. and so on
queen laurel
Bearded vulture
celest dome
They're cute
queen laurel
yes
crystal forum
if you own a bird pet i hope my cat could meet it
vagrant fox
Actually pheasants get a pass because I saw one and it amused me mildly
unique bronze
Did you shoot it
vagrant fox
no but I watched it run into a twig
crystal forum
i saw a native kill a grouse with a slingshot it was so cool
unique bronze
noice
celest dome
I once got bit by a Vulture that a mate had rescued, it was mostly blind
crystal forum
he just took the slingshot out of his backpack quickly and demolished its head
celest dome
The vulture loved to eat hotdogs iirc
crystal forum
vultures eat literally everything
queen laurel
I love vultures but I'm also a fan of chickens as an animal and also because i love demolishing a bucket of KFC
unique bronze
pigs of the sky
crystal forum
also i didn't know there were vultures in europe
they're more of a warm climate bird iirc
also their immune system is strong af
they're pretty much immune to most food born dieases
rose thorn
My sister is gonna be bed stuck for a few months healing her leg, I wanna get her a video game any suggestions
I’m thinking getting her slay th spire but she might hate it
queen laurel
My sister is gonna be bed stuck for a few months healing her leg, I wanna get he...
Doom eternal
rose thorn
i dont hve 40 dollars lmao
celest dome
Are there games she has liked before
queen laurel
i dont hve 40 dollars lmao
What type of games has she shown liking
rose thorn
uhh all zoomer games
queen laurel
uhh all zoomer games
Fuck you mean zoomer games
rose thorn
games popular on tik tok
queen laurel
games popular on tik tok
well that complicates it because we do not touch that shit
queen laurel
games popular on tik tok
fuck it get her stardew valley
rose thorn
she has it
vagrant fox
The entire metal gear series peacewalker included, make her understand
Or Cult of the Lamb
rose thorn
her favorite game is hat in time which is very good
rose thorn
The entire metal gear series peacewalker included, make her understand
Or Cult ...
she hyas cult of the lamb
celest dome
Disco Elysium
rose thorn
i, dont have 40 dollars nad i dont knwo if thats appropitae for a 16 year old
inever playde it
she might liek it tbh
queen laurel
i, dont have 40 dollars nad i dont knwo if thats appropitae for a 16 year old
i heard Disco Elysium
is a very good game so
celest dome
Silksong 
vagrant fox
Disco is extremely good
rose thorn
hmm im thinking terraria or starbound
celest dome
I can vouch for Starbound
queen laurel
i can vouch for terraria
she seems to have an affinity for games of surviving and building your own stuff
rose thorn
Worried terraria might be really hard
queen laurel
Worried terraria might be really hard
oh it gets extremely goofy yeah if that's the case then don't
celest dome
Starbound is easier
rose thorn
Yeah
queen laurel
especially as you keep progressing
rose thorn
I paid like 2 dollars for star bound lmao
queen laurel
the moment you land on hard mode everyone is gonna find you
rose thorn
Idk if my heart is okay with paying 15
queen laurel
funny
vagrant fox
Starbound is pretty fun
rose thorn
shew anted terraria
queen laurel
shew anted terraria
welp
rose thorn
welp time to remmeebrwhat mods for starbound i liked
celest dome
I guess i'm not the only non-sober tonight
vagrant fox
Make her play rdr2 next
rocky gale
My sister is gonna be bed stuck for a few months healing her leg, I wanna get he...
Trick her into painting all your models with all the free time she has.
queen laurel
Trick her into painting all your models with all the free time she has.
she's getting her video games to enjoy not torture her
rose thorn
Make her play rdr2 next
She plays it all the time
vagrant fox
wisdom
opaque coyote
Worried terraria might be really hard
It isn't unless if you go on like
Master mode
Then it is actually hard
Classic mode is good for a first playthrough
Isn't too hard
I would say it's easy but I should not be trusted on that department
But classic should be fine
celest dome
Dman, Larmoth want to throw Mag's sister to the pits of hell
opaque coyote
Dman, Larmoth want to throw Mag's sister to the pits of hell
Clearly Dead by Daylight is the least toxic game
celest dome
fair
queen laurel
Oh well if it has to be games, League of Legends is free
it's not torture not torture larmy
opaque coyote
Would also suggest Minecraft
opaque coyote
i, dont have 40 dollars nad i dont knwo if thats appropitae for a 16 year old
16 yo?
Nah she's ready for pretty much anything
Give her Doom
She'll have fun
If she can join the military
She can play Doom
opaque coyote
She does not have $40 for doom eternal
I was thinking of 2016
Slower paced
Half price
$20
rocky gale
Doom 3, the best Doom
opaque coyote
Doom 3, the best Doom
I actually think a horror themed doom can work
It's just that Doom 3's execution was mixed
rocky gale
It certainly scared the shit out of me when I played it like age 7 or 8
opaque coyote
Tbh I was scared of Sonic.exe and Jeff the Killer back when I was 7
I was low-key worried that a Sonic plushie with hyper realistic bloody eyes would attack me
I don't even have a Sonic plushie
7 yo can get scared of a lot
rocky gale
Was terrified of this fucker
opaque coyote
It certainly scared the shit out of me when I played it like age 7 or 8
Tbh I always thought that 2016 had a good horror atmosphere.
I always thought that playing as one of those elite guards would be interesting
The only reason why 2016 isn't a horror game is cause you're playing as doomguy
dapper gyro
Doom 2016 had originally darker graphic.
Also because its root was from the cancelled Doom 4, which was more horror oriented like Doom 3.
Eternal feels way too arcade for me in term of environment.
opaque coyote
Eternal feels way too arcade for me in term of environment.
Yeah ngl the eternal demon designs are mostly like
Inferior compared to 2016
Like the 2016 zombies with the gigantic hole in their head look more unique than eternal's
lament shoal
Yeah ngl the eternal demon designs are mostly like
They used the classic designs of the enemies from the earlier games and gave them a sort of remastered twist
Personally I like them more
opaque coyote
They used the classic designs of the enemies from the earlier games and gave the...
Aware
I like the Doom 2016 designs more
Well most of them
Pinkies in eternal are better looking
Also the soldier designs
Cause classic
lament shoal
I like the mancubus in eternal