Considering 40k, I wouldnt be surprised
#40k-lore-chat
outer wave
opaque coyote
You ever think that like
lament shoal
Some loyalist marines went there one time, got eaten, were trapped in the dude for so long that they had to resort to cannibalism to survive, and finally were set free as fully corrupted space marines
opaque coyote
Videos in the 40k verse would be styled off of analog
Like VHS styled shit lol
Cause I always got vibes similar to like
Alien/Aliens
Where the technology is both dated and futuristic
Also the idea of like
"You can open a portal to Hell, along with making actual plasma guns, but you can't have HD video"
Is funny to me
lament shoal
Like VHS styled shit lol
That actually how it is
Its seen like this in rogue trader
opaque coyote
I kinda had an idea for Analog Horror 40k
Yum yum slop for the slop god
Jokes aside I think it would be cool
Not even analog horror
Just analog styled things
unique bronze
Kinda reminds of how some other fans would like a horror game based on Nightlords just terrorising you
lament shoal
Need me a version of that image of a dude levitating a slice of pizza with his mind but its Idira levitating a bottle of amasec
dapper gyro
Unless you are in the deeper Palace, you are not going to see a colour screen.
cyan merlin
Someone is going to die for this crime
lament shoal
It'll probably just be green cuz thats the color of like every imperial computer screen lol
opaque coyote
Its seen like this in rogue trader
Honestly I have always thought that like
The equivalent of a military body cam footage
But on a guardsman
Would be cool
But I have zero experience in 3D modeling so
Ehh
Again, I still have the idea of like In-Universe Fairytales
Probably don't even need to change much LMAO
cyan merlin
But I have zero experience in 3D modeling so
Never too late to learn!
I tell myself, slowly losing motivation as I struggle to make a fucking donut in blender and seeing the tutorial goes on for another 16 hours
At the same time
“Flow” was made in blender and that’s one of the most beautiful movies I’ve ever seen, so like…
crystal forum
shrewd depot
Reminded that Imperial naming structure for weapons goes from 'Phobos pattern Mk. 5 bolter' to 'Melta'
Like they really just gave up when they got to flamethrowers and microwave cannons huh
"Whats it do Mr GW?"
"It shoots flames!"
"Oh sick! What do you call it?"
"Heavy flamer."
shrewd depot
I still find it goofy
celest dome
Bolter are front and center, Flamer, Melta, Grenade Launcher...
Those are weapons that aren't as seen
shrewd depot
I like 'Las' as an alternate name for lasers
celest dome
So don't need as many known variant
shrewd depot
Like they could've done something with promethium
I think they have actually but its like, special weapons
celest dome
How so ?
Like they do use Promethium in quite a lot of weapons
Hunting Lances' charges
Flamers
Heavy Flamers
Hand Flamers
Vindictor Flamers
Couple of vehicle weapons
Grenades (+ Launcher)
Executor Attachment
lament shoal
Plus with the imperium being full of religious zealots obsessed with purging even the slightest bit of heresy with fire, promethium sees a lot of use lmfao
shrewd depot
I'm really just talking about the name, like its nothing deep
Promethius blaster is really the only thing I can think of right now lmao, but iunno
Flamer and Melta just seeeeem a little lazy. Like 'Bolter' is such an iconic sounding name
Melta might as well be Ork speech
celest dome
Bolter is only iconic cause it is the main weapon of the Imperium
lament shoal
Promethius blaster is really the only thing I can think of right now lmao, but i...
I think you mean pyreblaster
shrewd depot
The thing I said was a completely off the head suggestion as a replacement for flamer
lament shoal
Ah
shrewd depot
pyreblaster is a cool name tho
lament shoal
Yeah those are the Astartes flamethrowers
shrewd depot
Fuuuucking use that name more GW
Looking at the wiki name, apparently Meltas are also called 'Vape Guns'
Melta is the better name there lmao
lament shoal
There's also the pyrecannon, which is same thing as a pyreblaster but its got two barrels instead lol
shrewd depot
Terminators need more wrist mounted weaponry. A powerfist with an underslung pyrecannon sounds badass
shrewd depot
Never enough bulk
lament shoal
Chainfists are a thing tho
shrewd depot
I never super liked chainfists
Like having deadly palms just seems less effective than thunderclaws
lament shoal
Space marine aggressors can also swap the bolters on their powerfists for single barreled flamethrowers
celest dome
The SM Chainfists sucks, the one that the Eight Fold Harvest Lord has are cool though
shrewd depot
This is fine, but I think only Tyberous has the version I'm thinking of
lament shoal
This is fine, but I think only Tyberous has the version I'm thinking of
Tyberos' version was the only variant I was aware of lol
shrewd depot
Like its kiiiinda a bit goofy
Tho I don't think I would've liked chainsaws replacing the claws either
They're silly but also the only weapon I could possibly picture that guy using lmao
celest dome
Tyberos' version was the only variant I was aware of lol
There are similar things
lament shoal
Meant specifically in terms of chain fists
lament shoal
He does
Look at the underside of the fists
Also this as a model example
They're power, chain, and claw mixed into one
Pretty overkill but that's the space sharks' whole thing lol
celest dome
Fair forgot about those parts
shrewd depot
I do wish he had a gun of some sort
Like he's still got surface area on those fists for storm bolters
lament shoal
He doesn't need one tbh, he gets the job done just fine already
summer mural
Incinerator is cool
I think that's the flamer the grey knights use, and they shoot some blue fire or some such
Also swinging those combined arms space sharks gauntlets sounds incredibly challenging
Like can you even aim bolter fire with a gauntlet that heavy if an Eldar is doing like ballet breakdance dodges
lament shoal
Also swinging those combined arms space sharks gauntlets sounds incredibly chall...
I mean given that he's a space marine and a fucking huge one at that, them shits probably feel light as hell for him
arctic talon
Tbh he rarely deploys to the field outside of CQB environments so he doesn’t need a gun is his logic I’d assume
shrewd depot
Its the oxymoron of Terminators being the biggest, most unwieldy looking characters in 40k, but they're CQC specialists who go into cramped af ship interiors
arctic talon
Tyberos almost got fucking ganked to death by 4 tyranid warriors
shrewd depot
Which book was that?
arctic talon
Turns out being surrounded is bad
celest dome
Inside ships using ranged attack is more dangerous, so turning to melee weapon specialist make sense
shrewd depot
Literally the one I didn't read lmao
shrewd depot
In Outer Dark he casually clears a Tyranid boarding pod by himself
hexed orchid
Tyberos wasn't in red tithe to my knowledge
arctic talon
I might be crossing wires in my brain
hexed orchid
The nids certainly weren't
summer mural
i forgot which one, but theres this funny bit in one of the 40k stories about dark angels terminators
arctic talon
The one where the dude falls through stairs into a basement
Or the one where someone can’t stop moving in time
And slams into a wall
summer mural
basically they get deployed with all this hype and like bazinga the terminators are going to battle blah blah and then teleport in , climb a set of stairs and one of the terminators is so heavy he falls through the stairs and gets stuck, so they have to stop the whole mission to get like a crane and pull him out
summer mural
The one where the dude falls through stairs into a basement
ye
shrewd depot
Why didn't they just use the teleporters....
summer mural
risky
arctic talon
Why didn't they just use the teleporters....
Safer to teleport outside then move in
summer mural
they barely use em in life and death situations, i doubt they use it frivolously
shrewd depot
Why are the teleporters so risky tho
arctic talon
Likely not with the risk
summer mural
because you can get stuck in the warp
arctic talon
Why *are* the teleporters so risky tho
Because they aren’t super precise
summer mural
since your jumping through the warp
arctic talon
And sometimes they just fucking kill you mid transit
celest dome
Cause teleporting into a wall is bad
shrewd depot
None of this explains why the tech is terribly made tho
arctic talon
Or something kills you in the warp
summer mural
because its the impierum
arctic talon
None of this explains why the tech is terribly made tho
It’s not terribly made
Comparatively tbh
It’s not great but it’s def not the worst teleportation tech in 40K
If you want to teleport well you use a homing beacon
Which is either deployed via orbital drop or someone plants it
Which makes you much more accurate location wise
Still has the issue of a daemon just killing you mid transit though lol
summer mural
like their entire crusade since the beginning of the imperium has been based on the emperor using the astronomican guiding ships through the warp , which even with that is incredibly risky, and theyve been using that method for actual millenia now since he could never get around to building better tech before he got fried
arctic talon
If you want a reliable teleportation device in the imperium
It’s either gona be from Lucius or Deimos
Because the custodes sure as fuck aren’t sharing their super accurate ones lol
summer mural
yeah the deimos guys build the grey knight stuff, and their gear is pristine
arctic talon
So you’re gona have to do with the second most accurate ones
Lucius has the most accurate teleportation tech in the imperium aside from The custodes
Deimos has the safest in terms of warding
You’re the least likely to get horrifically murdered by a daemon or other warp creature mid transit with Deimos teleporters
The only faction with reliable warp based teleportation in 40K is Orks
Every other faction has to gamble a bit lol
summer mural
they do have better ways to travel across the galaxy though
other factions
not teleportation
but just like, lightspeed travel
also dont necrons have like insane teleportation
summer mural
like their " troop carriers" and "dropships" transport troops by just dropping a teleportation gate lmao
arctic talon
Which also aren’t really teleportation
Oh that one
Yeah
They need to physically move shit technically
They use a tether for the night sycthe
It’s like a nether portal
Almost lol
summer mural
how do tau travel through space
hexed orchid
The only faction with reliable warp based teleportation in 40K is Orks
Reliable... Orks...
summer mural
i forgot
arctic talon
how do tau travel through space
Normal propulsion or warp skimming
hexed orchid
They literally travel through the warp unprotected
hexed orchid
And often end up not were they want to be
arctic talon
100% accurate
summer mural
Normal propulsion or warp skimming
i dunno how that works in the warp per se, but it seems like someone like cawl should really spend the next 100 years copying that tech 
arctic talon
i dunno how that works in the warp per se, but it seems like someone like cawl s...
It’s slower
The imperium is okay with the chance of horrific death
lol
arctic talon
In any case orks having reliable teleportation is absolutely a case of tabletop first
Because the ork units that could teleport in were like
Not super super strong
shrewd depot
Just read the wiki. So Tau really cannot enter the warp with their current tech and lack of psykers, so they skim the warp to go ftl.
Its apparently a lot slower than any actual warp travel tho
summer mural
omg i never acknowledged in my own mind until now that the tau dont have psykers
shrewd depot
But upside, they don't encounter daemons or any other warp issues
arctic talon
I don’t think mega armored nobz can deepstrike
Yeah the tau skimming tech is useful for them
Just don’t use a bunch at once
Or else you get the startide nexus 2
summer mural
so basically, they dont warp travel, they just go super fast
like their ships just turn up the thrusters to 100
arctic talon
Well they warp travel sorta
summer mural
i see
arctic talon
It’s like skipping a rock
summer mural
ohh
arctic talon
On a lake
shrewd depot
No they push against the warp's resistance and the force generated by that throws them forward at ftl speeds
hexed orchid
omg i never acknowledged in my own mind until now that the tau dont have psykers
What's strange is they have humans.
Who have psykers.
Yet we hear nothing, maybe they're just killed when they do something sus
arctic talon
It’s adjacent to actual warp travel
shrewd depot
Like the rock skimming
arctic talon
What's strange is they have humans.
Who have psykers.
Yet we hear nothing, may...
They have Psyker auxilleries
summer mural
also i dunno who guards the astronomican , but i feel like the custodes should really take responsibility for protecting it
arctic talon
Explicitly
Tau don’t get them on the tabletop for faction identity reasons
Mostly
hexed orchid
I've never heard of them
summer mural
oh yeah
arctic talon
And humans
hexed orchid
But then Tau don't have many books
arctic talon
All are Psyker auxilleries
summer mural
nicassar are in lore
celest dome
The weird worm things
Worm bear no ?
arctic talon
No
The small worm ones
The nagi?
Or whatever the fuck
They hang out with ethereals or water caste spooks often
celest dome
Nicassar are like the microscopic bear thing
arctic talon
Nah they’re big
summer mural
also the hitman folks making a james bond game looks absolutely dope
arctic talon
Forgot the name to those thing
Oh tartigrade
summer mural
so
why is gw stingy with making a live action show, because I heard rumours about that like a while back, but nothing seems to be coming of it
and they arent like, super stingy with the game rights, since 40k games have been pretty decent to great for a while now
storm jungle
Because making shows is extremely difficult, especially live-action.
they arent really stingy, we just got no idea what the fuck they are even doing with it
storm jungle
and they arent like, *super* stingy with the game rights, since 40k games have ...
They are stingy for games behind the scenes, theres a comical history of some stuff they dont allow or pass in games, people just dont really know about it.
summer mural
100% its hard yeah, but im sure they know it can be a good one, and the benefits to the IP of a good live action show are like enormous
i have to stop using 'like' in all my sentences its a bad habit ive picked up on the internet smh
summer mural
They are stingy for games behind the scenes, theres a comical history of some st...
sounds funny
you got examples?
like did they tell fs to reduce the arbites cape size or something
unique bronze
Isn't there one in the works about a live action with Henry Caville
summer mural
thats like an eternal rumour
storm jungle
sounds funny
- Characters in darktide cant be shirtless properly due to "lore reasons"
summer mural
by this point its not happening or in development hell
summer mural
storm jungle
because like
in reality you are not allowed to say these things
because its all behind the scenes and technically breaks NDA
storm jungle
summer mural
🗡️
i bet they saw the blood ravens's armoury and were like
" yeah this is lore friendly, they do have most of vulkans artifacts"
and gabe has the agility of a callidus assassin
not newell
the other one
storm jungle
i wish it was that simple lol
tough haven
summer mural
because some of the wh plus stuff is decent, especially the goat interrogator, but they arent really maximizing it if you know what i mean
summer mural
based
ive heard lots of good things about hollow knight, and it looks pretty
havent played it though
im not ...huge.. on metroidvania sidescrawlers usually
unique bronze
Afaik its been confirmed about Caville being involved in a live action, saw some news about it mentioning it briefly cuz he cant openly talk about it, i just remember him mentioning its in a good spot
summer mural
also not to be a downer about it but like
cavill being involved doesnt really tell me the show is gonna be any good
unique bronze
Its prolly the closest we're ever gonna get tbh
summer mural
fair enough
tough haven
It’ll probably forgettable
But it’ll get their foot in the door
For more interesting stuff
summer mural
im sure theyl do like, all the makeup and characterization and stuff, but i really hope henry cavill isnt just walking around 40k with the casual henry cavill face , his face is perfectly fine, but something about it really doesnt scream grimdark to me , im talking about like the meme with his face just on top of the emperors armor or power armor or something
unique bronze
Not a lot media to be fair, so I think I'll watch whatever they can give, bad or otherwise
summer mural
why
unique bronze
Why not
tough haven
Because it’s so generic
Also I don’t like space marines
And 30k is just a SM soap opera
summer mural
well 30k does seem kinda drenched in space marine family drama yeah ngl
tough haven
Goes on too long, and all the plot points seem to just repeat themselves
summer mural
thats basically what it is
" daddy , why dont you love me"
" Im a monarch im busy"
" i hate your monarchy and you"
tough haven
If they do 30k it should not be their first foray into live action
Too niche
Fans talking about 30k and it being complex is like the warhammer stereotype
summer mural
also to be fair, live action 40k is hard stuff, the setting is suited very well to videogames and animation
unique bronze
What about people that dont know 40k at all tho
tough haven
What about people that dont know 40k at all tho
It’s easier to get into 40K I think as a setting
30k requires a ton of exposition and 40K can pretty much be summed up by “Humanity’s screwed”
summer mural
yeah 40k has some 'static' baselines that are fixed more or less
tough haven
You can also tell more self isolated stories in 40K imo
Where you just need to know the specifics on that story
summer mural
like the emperor being on the throne, the imperium being utterly fucked, the primarchs except 2 missing, the others running frolicking with daemons , all the xenos races etc
and the complete despair of defeat everywhere
you have no uber chads running around like valdor and malcador and the primarchs
tough haven
You don’t even need all that backstory
Can tell like the story of one specific world
unique bronze
Which one would you like to be told about
tough haven
Show with environmental storytelling the basics of life in the imperium and worship of the emperor, then set up The Enemy ™️
unique bronze
Reading like Descent of Angels just a few days ago, about the Dark Angels, interesting read but not that far into it yet
tough haven
Which one would you like to be told about
Could be one they make up for the show tbh, would give more freedom
Doesn’t even need to be an established one
summer mural
the only acceptable ending in 40k to me is demetrian titus , first of his name , emperor of the imperium of man, master of mankind and the avatar of the omnissiah ascending to his rightful place at the golden throne while the warp consumes the entire setting and it cuts to black with leandros whispering to titus on the throne " Victory my Emperor!....but remember, the taint of heresy never fades...." and he gives him a squint eye and the setting ends
tough haven
Doesn’t even need to be an established one
But if I’d have to pick, I’d say necromunda
tough haven
Makes me kinda wanna see one just before space marines were a thing
See THAT would be interesting
Give me early 30k or DAOT
unique bronze
Yeah, maybe about the "golden" age of humanity or just before dark age of technology
I think they got a lot to work with if the setting is around that era
tough haven
But if I’d have to pick, I’d say necromunda
Gives the best 40K vibes objectively
With lots of variety
Armageddon could be a good one
unique bronze
Armageddon could be a good one
Hell yeah
tough haven
Got 3, I mean 2 wars of content
summer mural
they can do any kind of world isolated story in 40k, but I think they are not gonna go that route even if it makes sense, they are more likely going to want to have high stakes and give the audience a story thats relevant on a decent scale, like sm2 kinda featuring bigshot characters like calgar and being the 2nd company of ultramarines
tough haven
PLEASE I cannot take another fucking Titus story
summer mural
its not titus
tough haven
I want to see baseline humans
I want to see perspectives other than big man in armor
Give me xenos (won’t happen)
summer mural
but yeah i dont think they are gonna make a liveaction show about the seven samurai 40k remake about farmers defending themselves from drukhari on an agri world
tough haven
I want to see baseline humans
These offer more interesting and whole perspectives IMO
tough haven
but yeah i dont think they are gonna make a liveaction show about the seven samu...
I’m not talking about that
Like give me a simple guard story
Space marines can still be in it
But don’t make them the whole show
summer mural
well, i dont see why they cant do something like armageddon
tough haven
Would be perfect in balance
summer mural
well I mean I can see why not, because its hard
unique bronze
Angron maybe
summer mural
im willing to bet money its gonna be about a space marine strike team with accompanying guardsmen and their ship and a planet lol
unique bronze
He was there right, or am I misremembering
summer mural
yeah angron was there on the first war, him being there led to the whole grey knights space wolves debacle
iirc
i think he shows up again in a later war I cant remember tbh
im not a fan of daemon angron either
he always seem to get krumped because he has to deal with being a daemon
whereas kharn is out there butchering everyone like a true champion of khorne
and also getting free resurrections without turning into a daemon
storm jungle
he always seem to get krumped because he has to deal with being a daemon
Its not him, its every single daemon primarch
they can respawn, so nothing really matters
summer mural
yeah but i feel like the other daemon primarchs get like
epic deaths by comparison
angron is here, angron is angry, he killed 90% of the grey knights around him, then they banished him
tough haven
im willing to bet money its gonna be about a space marine strike team with accom...
That’s fine, just don’t make it 80% space marines with a few guard supporting characters
unique bronze
His fall into chaos was the more interesting bit to me
tough haven
I was marines to be the exception
Not the rule
They are scarce, miraculous warriors, it’s not something you see every day
summer mural
sure, i dont mind a show about anything tbh as long as its good quality, they can make it about a day in guillimans life for all i care
tough haven
sure, i dont mind a show about anything tbh as long as its good quality, they ...
Hellish
summer mural
but hes so chubby
you can tell he grew up eating baguette and pastry in a cafe in france
what would be ideal
is if they can adapt a book
one of the good ones
like ravenor or eisenhorn or gaunts or something
unique bronze
Then it ends up being one about Caiphas Cane
summer mural
yeah that too
unique bronze
Would watch honesty
summer mural
so they dont have to deal with writing their own shitty script, just adapt one of the good books
tough haven
I don’t want it to be about any monolithic hero
I want them to beat it in that life is expendable in the imperium
You are chaff
A man among untold trillions, you could even say
You could even posit that to be a man in such times is to live in the cruelest most bloody regime imaginable™️
summer mural
i doubt it, its most likely gonna be about an inquisitor or rogue trader as the main character, since those organizations might as well exist as a solid premise to start a 40k story on
storm jungle
epic deaths by comparison
go read Mortarion's lexi page
he has died like 8 times in the lore
all of them embarrassing
tough haven
If you change or don’t make one minor thing perfect, you’re pissing off your fan page
storm jungle
summer mural
his death was epic
tough haven
Get shit on
summer mural
he got bullied by the emperor himself, then he got bullied by uh
draigo
and thats not bullying, that was just murder
even the emperor was nicer to mortarion
morty doesnt deserve the death guard
they are too good for him
tough haven
Most of the primarchs stories are them going “Dad can you help me solve this problem you could solve easily on my world I really care about?”
summer mural
also terminus est is an absolutely dope looking plague ship
tough haven
Most of the primarchs stories are them going “Dad can you help me solve this pro...
And him going “NO! Fuck you! CRUSADE! NOW!”
summer mural
i like all the herald champions except lucius, I like lucius too but I hate how he does shit like stepping on landmines
tough haven
Morty is “Hey dad can you help/let me kill the literal evil sorcerers that run my society”
Angron is “hey dad can you let me free my people from enslavement”
summer mural
and his dad goes " mortarion you do know I am an evil sorcerer running society??"
tough haven
Curze is “GIVE ME MORE CRIMINALS”
unique bronze
He went "Nah, just here for you"
tough haven
and his dad goes " mortarion you do know I am an evil sorcerer running society??...
More overt evil sorcerers
unique bronze
I thought he didnt want criminals, more like its just what he got
tough haven
He became obsessed with punishing people for any transgression
Even ones they haven’t done yet
Cause he gets visions
Everyone was a criminal to him
unique bronze
Skinned someone alive for jaywalking
Actually like the Nighlords, prolly my fave traitor legion atm
storm jungle
Hes always been a piece of shit and a hypocrite yeah
queen laurel
oh @rocky gale https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5jk5xmlb/lady-malys-stands-tall-over-the-new-codex-drukhari/
celest dome
"Hello Shadowheart from BG3"
queen laurel
"Hello Shadowheart from BG3"
DAMN IT
i was ignoring that thought
queen laurel
she literally looks like shadowheart
yeah i was doing everything i can to like drown the thought
queen laurel
Now we need Lazeal Necron.
fuck it inquisitor wyll and interrogator gale
queen laurel
BOY OH GOLLY 2 CAHRACTERS
ah yes GW heard people like goth GF and decided to to do it for the love of the game
rose thorn
POEPLE THOGUHT THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE THE EDITION THEY GET A REFRESH
celest dome
Did people think that ?
shadow plover
Given GW's release schedule I bet the Lady Malys sculpt was done even before BG3 released 
rose thorn
yeah lmao
rose thorn
Given GW's release schedule I bet the Lady Malys sculpt was done even before BG3...
2019
queen laurel
Given GW's release schedule I bet the Lady Malys sculpt was done even before BG3...
If that's the case then the coincidences go crazy
shadow plover
no, people are hoping a Drukhari refresh for 11ed, these two characters were already known like a year ago
queen laurel
ah yes GW heard people like goth GF and decided to to do it for the love of the ...
@rocky gale there was a guy who got this model early right
shadow plover
yes
queen laurel
i remember us talking about it
Yeah he got it early on some random ass box
I recall
rose thorn
whats teh last army left?
rocky gale
POEPLE THOGUHT THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE THE EDITION THEY GET A REFRESH
Na that was just copeheads
All the rumours and leaks were saying multi part archon, Lady Malys this edition and the refresh is early next edition but not the launch box
Literally all of this directly into my basket
celest dome
Is it 3 new mini or 2 ?
rocky gale
2
celest dome
Ty
rocky gale
Lady Malys and multipart archon that can be with or without boobs
All in line with the leaks
celest dome
Are there still leaks for things that are meant to come this year ?
rocky gale
I’m not sure
languid meadow
New archon has swag at least
rocky gale
All I know is I won the bet, sure the reveal wasn’t at NOVA but I made it a double or nothing bet and said “reveal before the 15th” and my friend agreed because he said it wouldn’t happen until after November
queen laurel
All I know is I won the bet, sure the reveal wasn’t at NOVA but I made it a doub...
Your friend betting against an dark eldar?
He should have known he would have lost
rocky gale
My foresight made victory certain, I just had my dates slightly wrong
Never gamble with a me when having to paint models is on the line
dapper gyro
Now I see why the imperial hates xenos.
languid meadow
rose thorn
Literally all of this directly into my basket
30% chance I start a drukhari army
lament shoal
https://www.rxddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1nbq1rv/the_favoured_weapon_of...
This is for the upcoming necron dlc I'm guessing? Would only make sense to add more cogboys as well lol
languid meadow
No this is for dark heresy
raven stone
Literally all of this directly into my basket
Ok this looks GORGEOUS
nocturne crest
raven stone
God damn, it’s like GW finally learned how to make an excellent feminine sculpt (note the exact wording chosen)
rose thorn
lament shoal
God damn, it’s like GW finally learned how to make an excellent feminine sculpt ...
Fr, my first thought when seeing the model was "Why is she pretty" lmfao
Wasn't expecting it
sacred ginkgo
I still can’t get the fact she looks like Shart out of my head
lament shoal
@opaque coyote @storm jungle
storm jungle
bro got vored 😔
arctic talon
Literally all of this directly into my basket
The leaks were spot on
rose thorn
oh yeah did everyone their emails to see if they won teh give away
arctic talon
Anyways have more valrak leaks
Warhammer 40,000 - Drukhari
- reiterates previous Drukhari refresh rumour for 11E.
Warhammer 40,000 - Kill Team
- rumour from TGA; Aeldari vs Chaos or Orks box.
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/warning-gif-15403397949888856290
I can hear the sound from that
opaque coyote
<@422298575289188353> <@166943308231344128>
Adorable scamp
pine wedge
@storm jungle flashbang
celest dome
Wait is it Cavill being saved, or saving ?
Title is saved, but it feel like the paragraph is the other way
median star
i assume yes but just to be sure but bonding studs can still be used on primaris mkx armor gravis and phobos aswell right
arctic talon
i assume yes but just to be sure but bonding studs can still be used on primaris...
Yes, it’s in SM2 + there’s mentions of it in crusade books and such
median star
qlso side note but would gravis be comparable in protection to mk3 or better or worse
arctic talon
qlso side note but would gravis be comparable in protection to mk3 or better or ...
Better
MK3 is less armored then gravis
But it allows for higher mobility
MK3 does have a whole host of other issues if not heavily modified compared to modern power armor
But that’s all pre MK4 power armor(excluding MK5)
opaque coyote
So genuine question
Why is there just a lack of asian themed stuff in 40k
I guess the T'au has some?
celest dome
Eldar somewhat
arctic talon
Why is there just a lack of asian themed stuff in 40k
Because GW didn’t want to pull a WHFB incident part 2
And weren’t as comfortable with it
opaque coyote
Because GW didn’t want to pull a WHFB incident part 2
...
arctic talon
Eldar and Tau have the bulk of Asian influenced stuff
opaque coyote
What is the incident
celest dome
But basically GW is an european company and was mostly trying to get european customers
arctic talon
**What is the incident**
Being culturally insensitive ect.
arctic talon
40K was made at a time when that wasn’t as socially acceptable
celest dome
**What is the incident**
||Pigmies||
arctic talon
Pygmies and the original araby lore
Are really bad
The Nippon lore is also pretty bad
But it’s not as bad
Ind and Cathay were fine
opaque coyote
Eldar somewhat
I thought of making like
A Samurai styled Chaos Cult
opaque coyote
Khorne moment
opaque coyote
Like the whole Bushido code fits Khorne very well
arctic talon
There’s East Asian/south Asian/central Asian styled stuff in 40K
It’s mostly SEA that’s lacking
median star
one thing iv noticed is the hispanics did not survive into the 41st millennia or if they did its only like 3
arctic talon
one thing iv noticed is the hispanics did not survive into the 41st millennia or...
They did
Crimson fists at leaat
opaque coyote
one thing iv noticed is the hispanics did not survive into the 41st millennia or...
The Spanish got evaporated
arctic talon
The way pedro is described makes him feel Spaniard
opaque coyote
arctic talon
Like face wise
opaque coyote
just like the ocean (tm)
Jokes aside, that's probably why the Rainbow Warriors are aztec styled in fanart
arctic talon
And yes GW called a space marine chapter master Pedro
opaque coyote
even though they aren't
median star
And yes GW called a space marine chapter master Pedro
modelo marines
opaque coyote
cause we lack south american inspired stuff
and knowing gw if they tried that shit in the 80's
it
arctic talon
cause we lack south american inspired stuff
Pygmies are in Lustria
💀
Also amazons
Anyways we do literally have a samurai space marine chapter
Emperors shadow or whatever
opaque coyote
Pygmies are in Lustria
How did this get past development.
median star
space mongolians and we name their leader 'the khan'
arctic talon
They’re Victoria lambs homebrew
Who got canonized
This is why you should be a GW employee
Do your homebrew becomes canon
They’re called emperors shadow
Whoops
lament shoal
Do your homebrew becomes canon
get a job at GW
your homebrew gets canonized
quit immediately after
vagrant fox
cause we lack south american inspired stuff
Well there is the Obsidian Jaguars but they're pretty new no one cares about them
arctic talon
Jokes aside she was head of eavy metal up till like 6e
opaque coyote
Emperors shadow or whatever
I could only find the fandom page, nothing in lexicanum
arctic talon
She’s a very good painter
opaque coyote
Honestly
celest dome
Wasn't that something that Ward said was a reason he joined BL ?
opaque coyote
3rd top looks metal
arctic talon
arctic talon
3rd top looks metal
The body is metal
I’m not sure about the face that might just be pure green stuff work
lol
But the tactical marines are the 3e plastic ones
opaque coyote
weren't figures made out of lead
arctic talon
Anyways yeah go and make your any culture inspired 40K stuff
arctic talon
weren't figures made out of lead
Pewter
Lead was phased out
Way earlier
There’s very few lead 40K minis
opaque coyote
Anyways yeah go and make your any culture inspired 40K stuff
yippee
honestly I have thought about them being elite warriors of a Khornate PMC
Because Samurai were
mercenaries mainly
just under a lord
And they would consider Khorne as the
ultimate Daimiyo
so to speak
median star
isnt this the whole plot of that one elden ring character
opaque coyote
isnt this the whole plot of that one elden ring character
I think the ER character just got murdered and possessed
by the three fingers (tm)
so he didn't even worship them
he just got fucking sneak attacked
and possessed
vagrant fox
remember there's only one good ending and it's frenzied flame
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-frenzy-madness-balrick-gif-25041201
ngl the three fingers and frenzied flame is like
the coolest part about ER
Like you could argue that the Dark in Dark Souls is basically just like
continuing the natural order/cycles
and that it's better than stagnation
But the frenzied flame is like
"We just want to destroy everything"
"..why?"
"Because it's funny"
I know there is a story where
a guy wanted to save his maiden
so he gave himself up to madness to get the power to do so
but the maiden died anyways
and he basically lost even his sense of care
which is sad af
"wow fromsoft game is depressing"
revolutionary
still makes me feel sad
pine wedge
"Because it's funny"
That's not the given reason
Their stated motivation is to undo the root of all discrimination, the destruction of all that divides, the ultimate revenge of the oppressed against their oppressor, by turning everything back into primordial soup so that all things and all people are simply part of the One Great again. Can't have racism and hatred and such in a world where nobody exists separately from one another. Which is anathema to the Golden Order, which maintains rigid division and hierarchy and stasis and order and so on.
It's part of an overarching theme in the game where Marika resists the blending of things, despite all things "yearning to converge" -- she resists the melding of the shamans in the jars with the flesh of others, she resists the blending of life by the powers of the Crucible and oppresses the Omen and the Misbegotten, and she tries to resist the merging of Radagon and herself, and instead shatters them both.
The Flame of Frenzy wishes to merge everything together.
Godrick turning to grafting of all things in his desperation to live up to the family expectations of the golden lineage is deeply ironic
shrewd depot
I couldn't actually finish Elden Ring because none of the endings appealed to me
Same deal with Cyberpunk, they all just kinda sucked lmao
tough haven
Me when the grimdark setting is grimdark
shrewd depot
I think more its the fact none of them do anything
Like yeh in Elden Ring you can plunge the world into darkness, restore it to its former glory or change the world, buuuuuuuut they all remain a kinda shitty place to live
storm jungle
Well yeah, its not a hopeful setting, you kinda should know this going into it.
shrewd depot
Cyberpunk is die, die horribly, die happily, or die+
arctic talon
Same deal with Cyberpunk, they all just kinda sucked lmao
No happy endings in night city
storm jungle
Nah
arctic talon
Also if you want to live aside from Johnny taking over your body you have 2 potential routes
shrewd depot
Which I get, but I wasn't super invested in anything to do with Arasaka lmao
storm jungle
I mean
that isnt a bad thing
lmao
Arasaka sucks
their ending is literally named "The Devil"
arctic talon
Nomad route which is prolly Metacorp fixing you which also might mean you die anyways, Arasaka does just kill you but stores your mind, and The DLC ending
Anyways night city sucks
pine wedge
It's part of an overarching theme in the game where Marika resists the blending ...
(this is all because Elden Ring is ultimately a game about alchemy, specifically the Ripley schools and the Great Work, the creation of a philosopher's stone)
storm jungle
The fact that the Nomad ending is the best also adds up with you leaving the city, aka basically winning at the game.
opaque coyote
Their stated motivation is to undo the root of all discrimination, the destructi...
...
So because it is funny. Got i-
I know it's mainly a Nihilistic philosophy. Destroy everything and return back to the primordial soup.
But let's be fair here
No follower of the god actually cares about that
arctic talon
Metacorp could maybe fix V + the relic issue
Or V dies anyways
But less painfully
opaque coyote
They either want power or to destroy shit because it is fjnny
storm jungle
Also surrounded by people that care about him/her
opaque coyote
Or V dies anyways
I mean
Better than not trying at all
arctic talon
Metacorp being a nomad nation is one of the funniest things ever
The fuck do you mean it’s a nomad nation, it’s called fucking Metacorp lol
storm jungle
literally the best you can ask with a condition that is literally cyber-cancer
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
also like, the "they will fix V" headcannon works when you consider the other possibilities in the game
like how Arasaka says its irreversible
yet the government just can do it lol
storm jungle
Yeah they arent really a strong nomad nation
arctic talon
like how Arasaka says its irreversible
Well they just want to go for the easy route and keep you as an asset is why
lol
storm jungle
especially since Nomads are like an allegory for a ton of minority groups banding together
arctic talon
Yeah they arent really a strong nomad nation
They’re a big one though lol
storm jungle
(and how government groups also hunt them)
arctic talon
There’s so many goddamn subfamilies
opaque coyote
literally the best you can ask with a condition that is literally cyber-cancer
Wouldn't it be closer to cyber-Alzheimers? Since the core of the problem is how V's brain was damaged
storm jungle
Wouldn't it be closer to cyber-Alzheimers? Since the core of the problem is how ...
No because you die
arctic talon
(and how government groups also hunt them)
This is why you should be like Metacorp and fucking kill any Corpo who tries to kill you and become a “corporation”
storm jungle
arctic talon
lol
arctic talon
Wouldn't it be closer to cyber-Alzheimers? Since the core of the problem is how ...
No
It’s rewriting V’s dna
And cells
Into Johnny’s
It’s literally cancer lol
storm jungle
This is why you should be like Metacorp and fucking kill any Corpo who tries to ...
Yeah especially since Nomads are an allegory for Native nations but with just almost every minority group involved, its a concept i really like
especially adds up with how thers thousands of them
arctic talon
Metacorp is such a weird nomad nation
They “integrated” with wider society to an extent
opaque coyote
No because you die
I mean Alzheimer's also kills you due to the progressive loss of brain function
arctic talon
Except they’re still literally just nomads, anything corporate is just a front
arctic talon
They do the same shit as every other nomad nation
It’s just become acceptable because they’re a “corporation”
opaque coyote
<:bonkmech:1119280748915085314>
O w c h
arctic talon
Human trafficking, arms smuggling and drug smuggling is only a crime if you’re not a corpo
Anyways the aldecaldos are fun fact really good at human trafficking
2077 doesn’t mention this anywhere
opaque coyote
But that's definitely closer to V's condition since the entire reason why they're fucking dying is due to Johnny replacing them.
And then leaving, basically having their brain be permanently damaged to the point where they're probably gonna die
arctic talon
But that is one of their specialities lol
opaque coyote
forcefully or voluntarily?
Why would you want to be trafficked voluntarily?
storm jungle
Why would you want to be trafficked voluntarily?
To get into places?
what do you think smuggling is
especially people lol
Its also a thing that exists IRL
you literally traffic humans
arctic talon
forcefully or voluntarily?
Both, but generally voluntary
storm jungle
Though people entirely now associate it with the angle where its complete slavery
storm jungle
Both, but generally voluntary
Yeah I guessed so
arctic talon
They excel at getting people through borders
opaque coyote
you *literally* traffic humans
I mean then it wouldn't be human trafficking. It'd be smuggling. The definition of trafficking is generally receiving individuals for the purpose of exploitation
storm jungle
I mean then it wouldn't be human trafficking. It'd be smuggling. The definition ...
Its both.
arctic talon
But they do actual kidnappings for the right price
(It’s a lot higher)
And not all subfamilies do it
arctic talon
I mean then it wouldn't be human trafficking. It'd be smuggling. The definition ...
In terms of the legal definition it’s both
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
Human trafficking can be voluntary
storm jungle
I didnt know this until watching a Short
opaque coyote
Human trafficking can be voluntary
Strange
arctic talon
People just associate it with slavery
storm jungle
where it clears up it can be done in the smuggling way
opaque coyote
Usually referred to as the opposite
storm jungle
yeah that
storm jungle
Usually referred to as the opposite
thats because its the sort of trafficking thats done the most
storm jungle
so its associated with that
arctic talon
That also
opaque coyote
Whenever they mention like actually illegally transporting people, they refer to it as smuggling
Because of that association
arctic talon
Yes
opaque coyote
Eh whatever
opaque coyote
Vocabulary
storm jungle
^
the words just have been culturally distanced by people without really noticing
since again they have taken different meanings
arctic talon
Metacorp still existing in 2077 is the funniest fucking thing
opaque coyote
Anyways the aldecaldos are fun fact really good at human trafficking
Brain dented shenanigans aside. I think they do mention the legal type of trafficking for the aldercados in 2077.
Just not the illegal type
arctic talon
And the fact there’s an airport on their home nomad port now
arctic talon
Brain dented shenanigans aside. I think they do mention the legal type of traffi...
Do they? I must have forgotten
I just remember gun running
opaque coyote
But even then I think it's just in passing
So
@arctic talon Honestly a Nomad game on the Cyberpunk 2077 universe sounds sick
Night City is great (for anybody watching)
opaque coyote
But some exploration of the outside would be nice
Yk?
I want a dlc where we visit other places of the cyberpunk world
Night City is generally considered to be like
The worst city in the USA right?
arctic talon
It’s not even in the NUSA
But it’s one of the worst on the continent of North America lol
opaque coyote
Lots of opportunity though
Get rich or die, either way it'd be quick
opaque coyote
North + central California isn’t part of the NUSA
Yeah I know.
I guess I should've said like
"Worst city in the North American continent"
I forgot whether it's like
Merged with LA or somewhere else
Or if LA even exists in cyberpunk
I think it got destroyed?
arctic talon
Also LA exists
opaque coyote
Y'know the most unrealistic part about Cyberpunk is that they somehow made a city that's worse than LA in California
arctic talon
Detroit was worse then LA in cyberpunk
Lol
Night city wins though
Night city number 1!!!!!
opaque coyote
Detroit was worse then LA in cyberpunk
I think that's the same irl
Shouldn't Night City rent be cheaper though?
Considering how fucked the city is
arctic talon
Number 1 in homicide rates
Number 1 in education
Number 1 in amount of housed people
Number 1 in homelessness
Number 1 in terms of money
opaque coyote
Or is it actually cheap for Cyberpunk
And cheap is just "barely affordable with minimum wage"
arctic talon
Or is it actually cheap for Cyberpunk
Night city is pretty cheap for most of it
arctic talon
Aside from the corporate areas
Those are $$$
And also the rich people areas
Which are also $$$
opaque coyote
Aside from the corporate areas
So the same problem as California
arctic talon
But a lot of areas are cheap as fuck
opaque coyote
Basically, most areas are actually cheap
But the ones close to your actual job cost a fortune
arctic talon
So the same problem as California
It’s like if San Francisco had dirt cheap housing by the beach areas
And industrial zones
And commercial ones
opaque coyote
It’s like if San Francisco had dirt cheap housing by the beach areas
Okay nvm
arctic talon
But anything remotely company wise
Was $$$$
Anyways the more likely you are to get murdered
The cheaper the housing in night city
lol
opaque coyote
At least the beach in Night City looks alright
...
Minus the potential Arasaka mines
But we can't all win
arctic talon
Minus the potential Arasaka mines
That’s an issue everywhere
All it would be militech
opaque coyote
Filled with trash but that's literally every popular beach
arctic talon
For around the USA
opaque coyote
Water seems...
Clean enough to swim at least
Just gotta watch out for the mines
And stay near the shore
...
And also try and not get shot by a cyberpsycho
Why does Cyberpunk seem closer to irl each day
Only difference is that
A) no cool cybernetics
B) internet didn't die and then get replaced with a lamer version
opaque coyote
For around the USA
Still believe that Night City shouldn't be the worst city.
Should've been somewhere in Texas
opaque coyote
There’s no cellphones in 2077 smh
Probably got replaced by the phone inside of your fucking skull
opaque coyote
I think my favorite detail was
V being confused by a landline phone
So Johnny had to like gesture how it works
It's a neat detail
...
Also weird that I'll probably have to do that one day
"No kid, this is how you use one"
opaque coyote
Phones are cool
I wonder if you get made fun of if you use a cellphone
Like
"Lol are you an old man?"
Similar to how people get made fun of for using a flipphone
arctic talon
Agents in cyberpunk red are cool smh
opaque coyote
I can also imagine due to enshittification. You have to switch to the phone inside your head because the corpo software only works there
arctic talon
Way cooler then the head phone
opaque coyote
Like a neat detail about the guns is that they all have their own unique rail system
So you can only use attachments from the corpo
arctic talon
Ignore the horrifying face
opaque coyote
It's like Apple being the only MFS that use a specific type C
arctic talon
I enjoy the fancy smart phone
opaque coyote
Actually something that I wish we could've done was play games inside of our headphones thingy
Would've been entertaining to play like Tetris while you're talking to somebody
Brain rot irl
opaque coyote
Real
arctic talon
Oh you do
How else do you hide your tracks smh
Just break your agent and toss it in a fire if you don’t want a trace
There’s pre paid ones after all
lol
opaque coyote
Also something that I do wish would happen for a sequel to 2077 is to deeper into netrunning
And by that I mean actually going into cyberspace
arctic talon
lol
Lmao
They’re never going to let the player character be an actual net runner in a CRPG
Ever
opaque coyote
But that would probably take way too much work
spring cairn
they wouldn't be allowed to do it justice
arctic talon
^
Net running only can get as complex as it does on the tabletop
Because the net runner doesn’t play the same fucking game
As everyone else lol
opaque coyote
Net running only can get as complex as it does on the tabletop
I always thought that you could transfer the fps gameplay just in a cyberspace type of thing.
And instead of guns you use quick hacks
arctic talon
You are playing your own game mechanically as a net runner to an extent
The way netrunning works in 2077 is already butchering the system lol
opaque coyote
The way netrunning works in 2077 is already butchering the system lol
Tbf 2077's netrunning isn't
Netrunning
arctic talon
Yes
opaque coyote
The characters even mention it
arctic talon
That’s my point
spring cairn
love casting kill yourself tho
arctic talon
Suicide is a funny quick hack
opaque coyote
Suicide is a funny quick hack
I once tried it on a maxtac
Watch him shoot himself and did like
2 damage
Literally so much chrome that a fucking revolver to the head did nothing
arctic talon
You are weak
Undisciplined
The fact other netrunner enemies can’t prevent hacks from going off is lame
opaque coyote
they wouldn't be allowed to do it justice
Maybe a separate side game where you play as a netrunner?
arctic talon
They’d need to build a game from the ground up for it
opaque coyote
Like netrunning is the whole game
arctic talon
And it would be cool
spring cairn
unemployed simulator
arctic talon
Real
arctic talon
Netrunners are literally the unemployed friend
For a cyberpunk red group
Do they make money in their off time? Probably not
Do they spend money? Absolutely
Do they spend most of the day sitting in a bathtub or chair? Yes
opaque coyote
Do they make money in their off time? Probably not
I mean they probably do. Netrunning would be lucrative.
arctic talon
I mean no
opaque coyote
And also dangerous
arctic talon
Because a lot of the time you end up bouncing off
Because it’s hard to get into a data fortress
It’s always easier if you go physically to the location
To break into a data fortress lol
If you wana sit your ass at home it’s gona be harder
opaque coyote
If you wana sit your ass at home it’s gona be harder
True
I can imagine some netrunners would do this though
"Is it a higher chance to get my brain fried? Yes. Am I getting out of this chair? Fuck no."
spring cairn
borderline cyberpsyhcotic murder hobos stay winning
opaque coyote
I mean Corpos literally hire netrunners to act as security
opaque coyote
So there's clearly a market in cyberspace
But it's probably worth it to get shot irl
Than shot in space
But IK it would be a niche that would have eddies
spring cairn
it is but only for the geniuses
opaque coyote
it is but only for the geniuses
Yeah so
NEET SIMULATOR GOGOGO
Jokes aside it would be interesting to play as a netrunner going past the black wall.
Rogue like. You fight AI
If you die, get a new netrunner
spring cairn
im p sure if you get past the wall you'd just die 100%
opaque coyote
im p sure if you get past the wall you'd just die 100%
Definitely but it's not an immediate thing