40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

When he was 6

[arctic talon]

I think Noble 6 is still the best faceless protaganist

[opaque coyote]

Year olds

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

it was when he was 6

but it still showed us what he looked like

[opaque coyote]

Idk your face generally looks different from a child to adult

But yeah

[arctic talon]

light brown hair, white, greyish eyes

[crisp heath]

I think in reality cheif would have been scared up to fuck

[arctic talon]

Chief stopped being a self insert when they did the comics lol

which is fine

[crisp heath]

He would have looked like a astartes I reckon

[arctic talon]

Noble 6 is the actual Halo self insert

tbh

and I like noble 6 a lot

lol

[opaque coyote]

I think the best part was the micro expressions.

[crisp heath]

Noble 6 is awesome dude

[opaque coyote]

Like you can tell when Noble 6 feels fucking sad

[arctic talon]

yes

[opaque coyote]

I think Reach is the best game story wise

Totally an original opinion ik

But I don't really see many games emulate it

It's a game where you don't win

[arctic talon]

Halo 2 > Reach > Halo CE > Halo 3 in terms of bungo halos

[crisp heath]

Halo 2 was pretty damn good

[arctic talon]

in terms of my enjoyment of the story

halo 2 is the best one

then reach, CE, then 3

[opaque coyote]

I think I accidentally ruined my enjoyment by

Playing it in legendary

[arctic talon]

3 is the worst to me because they didn't go all in on the stupid action movie vibe like CE

[crisp heath]

For me the story in 2 was 🫴

[opaque coyote]

Don't play Halo 2 in legendary for your first time

[arctic talon]

but they tried to tell a serious story like 2

[crisp heath]

So peak

[arctic talon]

except no

[opaque coyote]

Worst mistake of my life

[arctic talon]

they tried to mix it up

like 2 has action move vibe stuff

but it doesn't do it for serious moments

[crisp heath]

I have ptsd from the jackal snipers

Halo 2 also had the coolest moments

[opaque coyote]

That and the Brutes

[crisp heath]

Halo 3 behind it

[arctic talon]

halo 2's game design was

obviously done for an interation of the game we never got

lol

[opaque coyote]

Also severely unbalanced for difficulty

[crisp heath]

The bit I'm halo 3 where you team up w the hivemind to kill truth? THUS SHOWS HOW SCARY THE FLOOD IS

[arctic talon]

yeah Halo 3's climax is good

tbh

[opaque coyote]

I seriously don't get why they didn't try it for anniversary

[crisp heath]

As soon as truth dies

The flood turns on you

[opaque coyote]

I did like the moment

[arctic talon]

not a remake

well

[crisp heath]

My God the flood are scary

[arctic talon]

it was a remake

but not really

lol

Halo 2 anniversery was meant to play like Halo 2

1 to 1

for the campaign

[crisp heath]

If they get a proper hivemind again the universe is cooked

[arctic talon]

the multiplayer has some differences

but its close enough

I like the AR in the sandbox

Shame the AR sucked in every fucking Bungie game aside from CE

ig it was passable in reach

[crisp heath]

Dumb ass forunners

[arctic talon]

but holy fuck it was bad in 3

[crisp heath]

It's all their fault

[arctic talon]

lol

[crisp heath]

Why keep these things in labs

[arctic talon]

Its so bad in 3 and its not great in reach

[opaque coyote]

I did find it slightly funny though.

Idk why

[arctic talon]

to try and find a cure

ignore the fact there is no cure

[opaque coyote]

It's just the fact that I'm imagining the Grave mind being like

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

"Oh fuck oh god oh shit"

[crisp heath]

The cure is to cleanse all life so It can't eat

Problem being

One spore

One microscopic spore

Can end the universe

And there's heaps of spores floating around in hibernation

Even from the forst halo event

It doesn't kill iy

It just kills its food

Once it gets strong enough it can infect time and space

[opaque coyote]

Honestly always thought instead of a cure.

They were trying to find a way to murder the flood that didn't require wiping out all the food source.

Cause even if you kill like the infection forms

The spores are still there

[crisp heath]

IT CAN LITERALLY USE THE WAY THE FORRUNERS TRABVELED WHICH IS TERRYFYING

Once it's advanced enough

I'm pretty sure on its 2nd or 3rd generation they start getting smary

[opaque coyote]

Also the funniest part about the Grave mind speak is that

[crisp heath]

Producing new forms

[opaque coyote]

According to the books

The reason why it speaks in poetry is because it's bored

Like

[crisp heath]

Oh the grave mind talks through something like a million corpses if I recall correctly

[opaque coyote]

"Man regular language is boring. Better rhyme, that shit is gas"

[crisp heath]

Yeah

It only takes interst in us in 2 cause it's bored

It's like what is this parasite

[opaque coyote]

Also the reason why the flood started is because some dumbass human fed Precursor Dust to their dog

[crisp heath]

Lmao the flood calling us the parasite 💀

[opaque coyote]

I'm not joking

[crisp heath]

Yeah

Oh wait no

It was the beings

[lament shoal]

Same vibes as the genestealers in rogue trader calling you a heretic

[crisp heath]

The left overs of them

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the flood is the corrupted remnants of the Precursors (beings before the forerunners)

It could genuinely see us as

Like

A parasite because of it

Because they were there first

[crisp heath]

this one's blinded by religion this one by rage

[opaque coyote]

They got killed off due to the forerunners and humans

[crisp heath]

So awesome

[opaque coyote]

And now they are still there

Like a parasite

[crisp heath]

The forunners shouldn't have messed w them

Shouldn't have been studying them

[lament shoal]

Y'all I'm writing an essay for a class and I'm talking about my hobbies in one section, is this a good way to summarize what 40k is?

[opaque coyote]

We don't know much about the Precursors

For all we know they could've been total assholes

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's a pretty decent summary.

[lament shoal]

Cool, ty

[crisp heath]

They would have most likely apposed the forunner civilization which is what caused this

[opaque coyote]

Also the Precursors might have looked like crab people

Carcanization

You can't escape

[crisp heath]

Oh iv seen one somewhere hold on

They look eldritchy

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and the flood forms have tentacles and claws

[opaque coyote]

At least Halo 3's version

Which is definitely when the retcon happened

[crisp heath]

So in halo 3 when the Gravesend starts making pure flood

[opaque coyote]

Originally humans were meant to be the forerunners back in Halo 1

[crisp heath]

That's actually really bad news

Means he's close to becoming a planet

[opaque coyote]

Got retconned as soon as they realized that they were making more than one game

But yeah that's why guilty spark originally refered to chief as a forerunner

It got retconned to him being delusional

[crisp heath]

I love the story behind medicant bias the ai they made to interogate a precursor and it ended up infecting the ai and that caused the civilization to collapse

Idiots

[opaque coyote]

I almost want a version of the Bungie story where they stuck to the idea that humans were the forerunners

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's implied to be some form of rampancy

Which is a consistent thing in Bungie lore

Was also a part of Marathon

[crisp heath]

It's called a data plague

The flood can infect EVERYTHING

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I always had the idea that was cooe

*cope

[crisp heath]

Time and space isn't even safe

[opaque coyote]

By the forerunners

That the Flood simply convinced Medicant to turn

[crisp heath]

They left medicant talking to it for over 300 years

It started to get into the ais head

[opaque coyote]

Like instead of it being a literal plague

It just convinced it to turn

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think they should've gone with the Flood explanation for Cortana being unstable in Halo 4.

[crisp heath]

They talked for like 300 years and it slowly got it to pickup on its veiws but yeah

But ai can be broken

[opaque coyote]

Like that's why she was going rampant

[crisp heath]

Look at thar reddit one we turned into a rascist pos

[opaque coyote]

I mean the Cortana mission shows her basically being tortured

And going crazy

[crisp heath]

Oh so actually

[winged jacinth]

Rampancy seems like it relates to stress in general

[crisp heath]

Her rampancy was from when she was stick in the hive mind

It tortured her

And probably infected her

[opaque coyote]

In Marathon, Durandal went rampant because he was the equivalent of an AI that opened doors

[winged jacinth]

The more active an ai is the quicker it goes rampant

[opaque coyote]

And so he went insane

[winged jacinth]

marvin the martian would have loved him

[arctic talon]

Seemingly yes

[opaque coyote]

Because imagine being an all intelligent AI

And then your job

[crisp heath]

But yeah in halo 3 when we go to the hivemind

[opaque coyote]

Is to open doors

[crisp heath]

We are trying to find cortana

[winged jacinth]

they did know cortana was going to go rampant from day of manufacture

[opaque coyote]

Yeah nah I would go rampant too

[crisp heath]

All of them do don't they

[winged jacinth]

before they discovered the flood its just a thing AI does

[crisp heath]

They have a thing they do after 5 years or something

[arctic talon]

All AI go rampant eventually yes

[winged jacinth]

regular memory wiping i think?

[arctic talon]

Though it’s not always 5 years

But 5 years is the “dispose of” date

[crisp heath]

You have to constantly assess its directives

[arctic talon]

A lot of people uh

don’t

Due to the fact AI are sapient

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

They should've continued with Halo 5's plotline despite it being mid

[arctic talon]

And they grow attached

[winged jacinth]

turns out if you make it a person people like them yeah lol

[arctic talon]

343 never committed lol

[crisp heath]

Yeah chief has a thing for Cortana

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think that's the worst part about Halo 5

You can

Fucking skip it

And it doesn't matter jackshit

Nothing mattered in Halo 5

[crisp heath]

It's not like a relationship but he's attached and will not let her go

[opaque coyote]

It's fucking useless

[arctic talon]

Tbf

She did save his life

Several times

[crisp heath]

More than once

Yep

[opaque coyote]

Halo 4's ending had Chief look up to the Earth right before detonating a fucking nuke on himself.

He wanted to die with his best friend

[winged jacinth]

to completely derail to another franchise this reminds me of the bit in hitchhikers guide to the galaxy where the krikkit robots try to interrogate Marvin the paranoid android in HHGTTG and accidentally make all their computers depressed

[opaque coyote]

It's why I can't say Halo 4 is dogshit

At least not completely

Because the story, although flawed, is genuinely pretty decent

[crisp heath]

I'm gonna be honest

Halo hasn't been halo since reach

[opaque coyote]

And did make me feel emotional

[winged jacinth]

turns out marvin is VERY convincing about how bad the universe is if you let him talk, hes had 5 times the age of the universe to think about it

[crisp heath]

Infinite almost trys to trick you it's a good game

[arctic talon]

Halo 4’s story is good

Halo infinites gameplay is good

[opaque coyote]

I mean

It is if you purely go by campaign.

They just mismanaged the multiplayer so badly that it's the equivalent of watching a car crash

[arctic talon]

It’s the best it’s been since reach imo

[crisp heath]

I can't stand playing against the robots

Yeah gameplay loop is good

[winged jacinth]

god douglas adams was a genius
"they injected me with too much truth serum and asked me to tell the whole truth. so i did. people cleared out pretty quick. im done now though, there's not nearly as much as people think"

[arctic talon]

There’s no prometheans in Infinite thank fuck

lol

Prometheans sucked ass in 4

Were barely tolerable in 5

[opaque coyote]

Warden Eternal

[arctic talon]

And thankfully not in infinite

[opaque coyote]

He is eternal alright

[arctic talon]

Warden eternal doesn’t count

The fight is fine

[opaque coyote]

Eternally FUCKING APPEARING

[arctic talon]

It’s just spammed way too fucking much

[winged jacinth]

god yeah fighting the fucking robots in 4 is what got me to stop playing the franchise

[arctic talon]

Prometheans are super boring to fight

They don’t react to getting hit

[crisp heath]

I'd prefer factions of covenant than promethians

[arctic talon]

They react in 5 at least

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think any fight would become boring if you repeat it like what

[arctic talon]

But still bleh

[crisp heath]

Splinter factions

[opaque coyote]

6 times?

[arctic talon]

They have the same issue as flood

[crisp heath]

Yeah

[winged jacinth]

thats when i went "ok now the campaign isnt fun so since i dont play halo mp i guess ill never buy another one"

[arctic talon]

But even worse

lol

[crisp heath]

The elites aye

[arctic talon]

Flood have the same issue gameplay wise as prometheans

Aside from 3’s combat forms

[winged jacinth]

flood you can at least mow down

[crisp heath]

People just didn't like fighting them

The common thing was people hated fighting them

[winged jacinth]

the robots were fucking spongy iirc

[arctic talon]

They were spongy like flood pureforms

Is the issue

[winged jacinth]

halo 2 my beloved...

[crisp heath]

Yeah and they had certain spots you have to hit

[arctic talon]

Promethean knights were like flood pureforms

Or halo 2 combat forms

Takes 1 morbillion fucking years to kill

Can and will get back up if you don’t do something specific

lol

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

If the Promethean weapons were as effective as gameplay.

No wonder the flood almost wiped out most of the forerunners before the halo ring activation

[arctic talon]

Crazy how bungie nailed the vex in destiny lol

[winged jacinth]

i remember feeling like the promethians were a slog in the way i never felt the flood were

[arctic talon]

They’re “robots” but they feel

[arctic talon]

They react even less visually

Is why

[crisp heath]

That's the ones cotana did all that ai shit w hey

[arctic talon]

The flood in halo 3 were the best iteration

[winged jacinth]

i think they also start earlier in the game?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Your first promethean is mission 4? Or 5?

Halo 3’s flood combat forms were good to fight

[winged jacinth]

you're doing the same like 4 promethians for 80% of the game lol

[arctic talon]

Shame pureforms were all the same fucking issues

[winged jacinth]

the flood were usually like the back 40%

[crisp heath]

Pure forms and a actual hovemind that's at a point where shit it could just get reaalllly bad? He'll yeah

[arctic talon]

As halo CE and 2 Flood

Which is there’s no goddamn visual impact

And they take a trillion years to kill

Mostly

[arctic talon]

Bolt shot and binary rifle in halo 4 are terrorist weapons

lol

[winged jacinth]

i wish destiny was playable in the literal sense

[crisp heath]

Oh man

[arctic talon]

Binary rifle one shot kills anywhere

[winged jacinth]

i'

[crisp heath]

I used to get lost in the library as a kid

[arctic talon]

Boltshot is a fucking pocket shotgun

[winged jacinth]

i'd probably consider d2 if most of the game wasnt vaulted forever

[crisp heath]

Shotgun no ammo no ammo in pistol

[arctic talon]

My order of playing bungie Halos was

ODST, 2, 3, reach, CE

Lmao

[winged jacinth]

and im not gonna play destiny 3 when it inevitably happens because i know they're gonna vault a ton of shit

[crisp heath]

I was lucky and got to play halo as a kid on xbox

I can't tell you how muxh you missed out on if you weren't there back in the day honestly

Halo and gow had the world gripped

[crystal forum]

i miss the racial slurs and bullying

console was an experience

[crisp heath]

Damn split lips

Halo reach rascism

[crystal forum]

im glad i stopped playing console at the peak

so i never got to see the downfall

[crisp heath]

Hey we never fell down

Just greed ruined it

[crystal forum]

why are you saying we as if you represent microsoft

[crisp heath]

Human nature ruined it

Because I play xbox?

[arctic talon]

Xbox didn’t have monster hunter till gen 5 which is an L/hj

[crystal forum]

i'd buy nintendo stuff if they weren't terrible

a switch 2 costing more than my quest 3 headset

[crisp heath]

Apoarantly if you mod them

They will come and try take them from you

Is this true

[arctic talon]

Nintendo is expensive as fuck because they know their audience will buy anything

lol

[arctic talon]

According to the terms and services yea, in reality good luck having that stand in court outside of Japan

[crisp heath]

Or they have this thing that after the discontinue it they want to collect them all back

[crystal forum]

they'd just brick your device

which they can legally do

because consumer rights dont exist

[crisp heath]

Apple will tell the police your location if your wanted

Android would never

[crystal forum]

i hope you're being ironic

[crisp heath]

They did this to that rapper lmao

I'm not

[arctic talon]

Android also would

lol

[crystal forum]

samsung would do the same

[arctic talon]

Android is literally owned by Google

Who can and has harvested your data

[crystal forum]

your first error is trusting any tech company

[arctic talon]

And sold it

[arctic talon]

True!

Anyways give me your data

So I can sell it for 3 cents to the NSA

[crisp heath]

I don't trust android but it's better than Apple

[crystal forum]

none are better

[crisp heath]

Well have you ever tried to get away from Apple

They literally make it as hard as they can

If you sign w apple your w them for life

[crystal forum]

you can just change phones

i guess if you really really care about your app store purchases

[crisp heath]

You can but if you want to keep your number 💀

[crystal forum]

the funny thing is carriers are the one gatekeeping that

they're the ones actually stopping you

[crisp heath]

It's all the t and c that actually gets you , it's the apple pay and everything involved around that

[crystal forum]

back in the day my iphone 6 was locked to at&t or something

since it was refurbished

[crisp heath]

Ah yeah I hate having a locked phone

[crystal forum]

i'm not even american and i cant even use at&t

[arctic talon]

It used to be apple and AT&T had an exclusive deal

[crystal forum]

apple couldn't do anything

[arctic talon]

In the US

[crystal forum]

it was just locked forever

thankfully that's illegal now here

[crisp heath]

They also never explain what there fees are for

Just 15$ apple pay or whatever

You could literally be paying for nothing

You would never know

[winged jacinth]

android cant because android isnt an organization lol

[crystal forum]

if you want to be real secure get one of those encrypted phones that drug dealers use

[winged jacinth]

google maintains the android source kernel which gets forked by phone manufacturers

[crisp heath]

You could be funding boko harem for all you know

[crystal forum]

but nobody really cares that their data is being harvested

[crisp heath]

Yeah Google is alot safer w what data they do sell

I'm pretty sure

[winged jacinth]

google doesnt get data from android by default (samsung, eg, does)

[crisp heath]

So even tho iPhone has great security it doesn't really matter

[winged jacinth]

they get whats been agreed for sharing

[crystal forum]

apple security would matter if countries didn't force it to have backdoors

yet another reason to bring out the guillotine

[crisp heath]

That's the reason why there computers are any good

They have great security

[crystal forum]

shitty third world countries like the UK forcing open any private messages between me and my fuck friends

[opaque coyote]

Don't forget the USA.

Also

[crisp heath]

I love this meme

It's the Aztec one hey

[opaque coyote]

The Space Marine trying to stop the Necron Gauss Rifle Beam flying right towards him after praying to the emperor

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact, the Haber process was originally made to produce more explosives to murder people.

[shrewd depot]

Who the fuck starts a conversation like that

[opaque coyote]

But instead it was used for Fertilizer.

[shrewd depot]

This is a lore channel bro

[opaque coyote]

this is important lore (tm)

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-40k-dreadnought-redemptor-dreadnought-by-the-nine-i'm-tweakin-gif-9390896391163403429

But yeah inventors having their inventions used for like

their opposite intended purpose is common

[summer mural]

Like..dynamite?

[sour hornet]

Based individuals with hyperactive neurons

[summer mural]

Dynamite is a cool word

[sour hornet]

Real shit

It's rad as shit when we come up with sick names

Like Napalm

[summer mural]

Ikr

Disease names are kinda lame ngl

[sour hornet]

Old mfs were bugging when naming dangerous shit

[sour hornet]

Rubella

Sounds like a girls name

LAME

Scarlet Fever, underwhelming

Now

[summer mural]

Like brucellosis , who tf wants to say that

[sour hornet]

BUBONIC PLAGUE

[summer mural]

Based

[sour hornet]

That sounds ominous

[summer mural]

Also black death

[sour hornet]

D1 nick name

Tuberculosis

Mid name tbh

[summer mural]

I guess I like gangrene too, diabetes is lame, sounds like the name of what dionysus became after all the hard partying

[sour hornet]

💀

[summer mural]

Also rhymes with arbites

[sour hornet]

Real shit

[sour hornet]

NO IT DOESN'T

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[summer mural]

It does if you say diabetes fast

Just go dyebiteez

Instead of dayabeeteez

[crisp heath]

Stage 2 diabeetus

[normal light]

Diabeetus The Vilurent - Daemon Prince of Nurgle

[crisp heath]

Actually wouldn't be a bad name

I want a nurgle demon called consumption

[crystal forum]

welcome to lore chat

i should make a folder of these

[plush mason]

i guess? dynamite was made to make mining safer

whole reason they named the peace prize after it's inventor iirc

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure he made the prize himself from the money he made from Dynamite because he felt guilty that it was so destructive

[plush mason]

maybe

the fact remains his invention did save lives

ofc it didnt take long for it to be used to take them

[rocky gale]

Yea he donated his entire fortune to establish the Nobel prizes to reward those who "Confer the greatest benefit to humankind"

[plush mason]

makes sense

[median star]

does mk5 still see use for any loyalist outside of one off named characters

[nocturne crest]

I thought it was because he read a paper that falsely announced his death and people were celebrating it.

[rocky gale]

I think that's just a popular myth

Oh apparently it's debated and no historians have been able to confirm it or disprove it

But yea the story goes that after his brother died a French paper mistakenly thought he'd died and wrote an article calling him the merchant of death

[shadow plover]

Yea on a few chapters especially but less now that most have adopted the primaris line

[crystal forum]

that's straight up a myth

there's no actual proof it's true

anyways here is my ted talk about why the nobel prize is horse shit

case in point: the nobel peace prize

i dont even need to elaborate on that one

[shrewd depot]

From Wikipedia:

"Awared to those who hage done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

[shrewd depot]

It was his friend who apparently pushed to include 'peace' as a category, the guilty thing is something they assumed

I think its a fair assumption to make tbh

[storm jungle]

jay calm down

[median star]

https://tenor.com/view/paulie-gualtieri-paul-tony-sirico-wtf-finger-gif-22816998

[storm jungle]

Also wasnt the nobel prize's inventor the guy who made dynamite lol

[crystal forum]

cordite

[storm jungle]

yeah same thing

[crystal forum]

cordite was used in a lot of things including dynamite

and people think he somehow had a consciousness after making bombs

also like

people are fucking stupid

[storm jungle]

Explosion

🫡

[crystal forum]

dynamite isn't used in war

it's an explosive used for mining, rock clearing, demolition

[storm jungle]

It deffo has been used in war

but like, its a demolition device so lol

[crystal forum]

no dynamite itself

cordite a lot

[storm jungle]

Its a thing that blows up

it definitely has been used for it

just not en-masse

[queen laurel]

hey it's good enough for rock it's good enough for someone with flesh and bone

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-explode-dynamite-gif-17304850

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-powder-ganger-new-vegas-fallout-jumpscare-gif-14862193504606472670

[crystal forum]

wait wait no

im tired

nobel invented dynamite

and ballistite

which that one is used in cordite

and that one is used in war

[storm jungle]

oh my god jay

im actually gonna blow you up with dynamite

[crystal forum]

but like dynamite was extremely useful in history

we wouldn't even have rail in north america without it

[summer mural]

well

afaik nobel did feel guilty about creating it

[crystal forum]

WE DONT KNOW

just because you heard it doesnt mean it's true

like christ i made a school report about it in highschool and i believed the myth too

historians straight up say it's a myth

[near wasp]

If it's an explosion it's been used in war

[crystal forum]

it's not the correct type of explosion

[near wasp]

Weather it's for destroying people or property

[crystal forum]

if it's used in war it was probably for demolition

but like that's not killing anybosy

and the popular myth is he was super sad from dynamite killing people

[near wasp]

I mean derailing a train kills people jay

[crystal forum]

are we talking about wild west bandits now

tf kind of shit is that

[near wasp]

You know trains had been used in war since they existed right?

Logistics are incredibly important

[crystal forum]

derailing a train

as in blowing it up before anybody notices

and before the train can stop in time

who does that

who derails a train

[near wasp]

People with sense

[crystal forum]

you somehow managed to get to a logistics line without anybody noticing you

so we're either talking partisans or special forces

[near wasp]

I mean paratroopers existed in ww2

And that's basically what they did in prep for dday

[crystal forum]

i guess in that one situation where jean luc in the french resistance blows up a train track then dynamite has killed somebody

anyways do you know how outdated the nobel science prize is

it still works in 1800's logic where you can award singular people for advancing science

not teams of people

and the prize takes so much time to decide on who gets it that you might genuinely die before qualifying

but the prize cannot be given posthumously

so if you didn't get it in time for creating the cure for cancer then even your family wont receive it

[lofty mason]

How high are baseline humans in the food chain of 40k universe?

[queen laurel]

with equipment or no equipment

[lofty mason]

Both cases

[queen laurel]

Well they can get pretty high is the answer

There is also a level of it depends because of how warhammer works unfortunately

[lofty mason]

In a lot of media, unless you're Astrates, you're not very high into the food chain. So I was wondering.

[queen laurel]

yeah but a human can kill them though of course quite on the low end there have been cases of humans smoking the crap out of a marine

They may not win them over in physicality but humans fight dirty you see

[near wasp]

in plaugue wars a bunch of gaurdsman gang up on a death guard and bring him down, they had to dig one of there number out from underneath his fedid corpse

[shrewd depot]

Random fact I know. Apparently it takes a gap of 8ft to derail a train

So like, the tracks stop, its open air for 7ft and the train lands right back on the tracks without missing a beat

[daring creek]

So as I've been told. The orks are the good guys of 40k

[queen laurel]

they are not

[daring creek]

Why :(

They kill. That good no?

But if I did have a choice on what side to be on

Prolly the orks

Its funnn

I could be a ork warboss

[queen laurel]

they are racist warmongering monsters

Like that is as bad as it gets

They actively make someone watch as they eat their family in front of them

to them the concept of peace is nothing is a joke

[vagrant fox]

There is no good guy, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Queen of England

[daring creek]

Hey now that's fucked up to say now hey ya can't just say the tooth fairy ain't real

[summer mural]

I agree, the orks are indeed the good guys of 40k

[daring creek]

Keep sayin that and ya may get nuthin but coal in your socks this Christmas. It's only months from now.

[summer mural]

they are also probably the happiest race

[daring creek]

^

[summer mural]

since all they wanna do is fight

[queen laurel]

and this is why warhammer has a lot of misinformation

[daring creek]

If the tooth fairy isn't real. Wheres all this cash coming from?

[summer mural]

we need an ork utopia

[daring creek]

The good guy thing is just a joke but I do agree they're the one race who actually has fun

[queen laurel]

That's like one of the most unoriginal ork jokes by the way

That joke has been repeated so many Times Now

you get sick of it

[summer mural]

we need like a fort knox for teef

[daring creek]

Like they're fucking flying in the sky on motorcycles that's fucking amazing

[daring creek]

Rip

[summer mural]

i wonder if they pull out like eldar teef and decide its worth more than ork teef

probably not, i imagine eldar teef are too small

[queen laurel]

it's not

[storm jungle]

They only use ork teef between each other

[daring creek]

The Ork economy is blooming

[storm jungle]

its their economy ironically lol

[summer mural]

its magnificent yeah

[storm jungle]

you using a non-ork teeth is like trying to spend a Yen in america

[valid needle]

lol

[storm jungle]

"Not the same currency dipshit, get out of my store."

[summer mural]

I see

[valid needle]

As they slaughter every world they come across

[queen laurel]

basically giant sharp teeth

[storm jungle]

I literally had a page made with my friend on the lexi showing how orks actively use human slaves, people just do not get the hint lol

(it also had like 6 sources)

[summer mural]

also the fact that squigs can be repurposed to do a bunch of shit is funny af

[daring creek]

Are bigger ork teeth worth more

[queen laurel]

yes

[daring creek]

Yey

[queen laurel]

They basically value big sharp ivory teeth

[valid needle]

Everyone evil in this universe. it comes down to your choice of drip in the end.

[storm jungle]

👆

I like everyone so i usually stand in the middle

[daring creek]

So I'm guessing when a ork warboss dies, orks vulture all over his dentals yeah?

[storm jungle]

(I got like 7 Space Marine OCs 💀 )

[daring creek]

Tell. Now.

[storm jungle]

Prob later, they kill each other first

[daring creek]

Show.

[queen laurel]

there is literally a squig that is the equivalent of us breeding a chicken that lays eggs that have money inside of it

[valid needle]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Read the lexicanum.

[summer mural]

arent there like squigs that have the giant squig bodies and have tiny wings and flap around like squig bats

[daring creek]

Your ocs are in the lexi????

[queen laurel]

Squigeons

[summer mural]

yeah those

[storm jungle]

What, no

💀

[summer mural]

personally,my favorite bit is about using exploding squigs as artillery ammo

[daring creek]

Do the slaves just collect scrap metal

[storm jungle]

They do any labor work

[queen laurel]

back breaking labor and entertainment

[storm jungle]

especially when the orks in charge are too lazy to do it

also act as food

[queen laurel]

^

[daring creek]

Oh neat

Nom nom on the hummies

[summer mural]

ork society is basically perfected

[daring creek]

Yeah it sounds real nice. Anyway

@storm jungle ya mind telling a bit about one of ur oc legions?

[summer mural]

no lets linger on the blissful dream of the green paradise

[daring creek]

I'm curious :3

[storm jungle]

its not OC legions, its just single marine characters

[daring creek]

Ooo

Can I hear just one atleast...

[queen laurel]

It's not it's literally a society made for one function

war

[daring creek]

Awesome!!!!

[queen laurel]

it's a literal society that is just built to be the perfect one for war

[summer mural]

yeah thats perfect, orks are all down for it

[queen laurel]

an armor piercing round is gonna bounce off of your skull i just know it

[summer mural]

well

[daring creek]

Wanna find out

[summer mural]

I had a diet coke, il be fine

[daring creek]

Tungsten skull

[storm jungle]

Heres 2, my BT and also Raptor

[queen laurel]

Oh my god Eli

[summer mural]

ayyyy he has a two handed chainsword

[storm jungle]

What

[storm jungle]

[summer mural]

[queen laurel]

It's a joke i call every black templar Eli

[daring creek]

I love the helmet for Malchius

[queen laurel]

the machinations of my mind is not worth the explanation

[summer mural]

like..denzel from that one movie?

The book of eli?

[storm jungle]

🫡

[summer mural]

hes got a laurel thing

[daring creek]

Is..is that a double edged chain sword

[queen laurel]

yeah why that's normal

[summer mural]

do they actually inscribe the laurels of victory on the helmet or do they manufacture a bunch of helmets with the laurels on em and keep em in storage

and then get a servitor to grab it whenever a space marine gets 50% accuracy on a mission

" He is deserving!"

[storm jungle]

Depends on the model and cool-factor

in Malchius' case hes a experienced Sword Brethren so its kinda why I threw some to his helmet

(also why he has a missing leg and arm)

[summer mural]

understandable

how do the black templars recruit again, do they just pick up folks as they go along

il check

[storm jungle]

Pretty much yeah.

Sometimes they set up small temples on a few worlds for recruits as well

[daring creek]

Randomass thing.

I want to write up a Vat Born human race bred specifically to engage in war. As in battle is in their very nature. And if they go too long without battle. They'll become very bored and depressed.

I have no name for them, yet. But after the death of their creator and leader. They were left alone with a wholly conquered planet. So they agreed to divide themselves into various factions to go to war with eachother. To determine whos the strongest.

And at some point they'll decide to wage war on other planets

Their ultimate goal is to find an opponent strong enough to destroy them entirely.

Yes this was inspired by The Death Korps of Krieg.

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-man-ugh-unaccompanied-minors-dyllan-christopher-disgusted-gif-20710295

[daring creek]

Haven't read that book yet, unfortunately.

What do you guys think?

I need to work on it...

[summer mural]

i dunno, sounds good

[daring creek]

Yey

[summer mural]

if they were bred for war do they just like

love to fight, or feel compelled to

[daring creek]

Good question

They love to fight

[summer mural]

well

[daring creek]

Feel compelled to though...I need to give that more thought

[summer mural]

send them to catachan or armageddon

[valid needle]

BT looks cool af

[daring creek]

I don't intend them place them in the 40k setting. Though I think they'd make good friends with the orks

[summer mural]

well theyd just fight the orks

[storm jungle]

🙏

[summer mural]

the orks are definitely gonna fight em

[queen laurel]

they would not

they would find them as kindred fighters and good things to fight and kill but that's it

[summer mural]

i wonder if khorne ever decided to show up in 40k , would he wear power armor or a suit

[daring creek]

That's what I meant lol

[summer mural]

as opposed to being barechested

[daring creek]

Oh yeah they'd probably fall to Khorne

.

What does khorne think of orks

[celest dome]

Like if he manifested?

[summer mural]

yeah

just as like

[celest dome]

Without armour

[queen laurel]

more skulls

[celest dome]

Like his deamons

[summer mural]

if he was described in his brass citadel, hypothetically

oh yeah I guess bloodthirsters are dressed the same in 40k as fantasy

[celest dome]

Even the Slaaneshi deamons are naked per se

The cloth is part of them

[queen laurel]

though it is very rare and i mean very rare orks can fall to chaos

Khorne stormboyz arethe most well known

[summer mural]

and aos for that matter, they just have different tweaks but they mostly dress the same right

greater daemons that is

like the bloodthirsters are just barechested or wearing brass armor

and they dont use any ranged weapons even in 40k

apart from being living flamethrowers I guess

[young pecan]

Doesn't he have a little section of The Brass Whatever dimension where his own band of orks are constantly fighting his daemons for sport

[summer mural]

yeah

[young pecan]

Or is this YouTube meme lore

[summer mural]

no its a thing

[young pecan]

The orks aren't even corrupted by chaos IIRC

They're just chilling and fighting

[summer mural]

he keeps reincarnating that one band of orks in his dimension and they keep fighting endlessly with his daemons

theres even a named ork guy leading em i forgot his name

iirc

he also did it because he liked em or thought they were worthy or whatever iirc

[young pecan]

Has he ever given any other group this treatment?

[summer mural]

i dunno

[young pecan]

Seems like very focused, very special treatment especially for non-followers

[summer mural]

well

the chaos gods do whatever they please whenever they want, mostly

khorne was probably cleaning his toenails or something one day and noticed a band of orks he liked

theres pobably a story about it

tzeentch corruption is the best though

since its kinda indirect and particularly insidious and the victim usually ends up doing something incredibly fucked up in an ironic and funny way

as opposed to khorne corruption where you gradually become an abusive alcoholic without the alcohol to full blown murder mania man

😩

[daring creek]

Are they resistant to chaos or chaos just doesn't care for them?

[outer wave]

Orks are particularly resistant to chaos IIRC

[summer mural]

the decision to attach khornate corruption to farsight is one of the best tau things ever

they should grow a pair and make grimnars axe corrupt him too, but they arent gonna do that

everytime I see that axe all I can see is a thought bubble over grimnars head going like " there's an organization called the inquisiton ???"

also speaking of inquisition, I know theres isnt really a clear heirarchy per se, but is there like an inquisitor thats considered like, one of the top most powerful inquisitors ever

[tough haven]

Chaos hates the orks on principle

[summer mural]

oh its the imperial inquisition, right on cue

[tough haven]

because usually Orks have nothing to offer chaos

and Chaos has litte to offer orks

Who needs khorne when I have Gork (Or is it mork)

Orks dont give a squigs ass about knowledge, they know everything they have to

so tzeench is right out

Orks dont need any sensation other than choppin and shooting things

so they dont care for slaneesh

[summer mural]

ah yes, a tzeentchian ork, that practically sounds like an entire chaos god by itself

[tough haven]

and they're fairly resistant to disease

[queen laurel]

They genuinely do not care about chaos that's the thing, their own psychic nature also

[tough haven]

Yeah the gestalt protects them as well

[queen laurel]

Helps shield them

The only way they get corrupted by chaos if they willingly give themselves in but why would they

they orks

they think they are the best

[tough haven]

Even Tuska Daemon Killa, isnt even chaos aligned

he's basically just trapped in a time loop he doesnt want out of

[summer mural]

oh yeah thats khorne realm guy

[tough haven]

why would he

infinite foes

and he gets to krump em forever

and come back after getting krumped

[tough haven]

The only thing those gribbly Wotzits are good for is getting krumped in interestin’ ways

[daring creek]

I see people here take the "good guys" thing a bit more seriously

Hm

[queen laurel]

after hearing people try to justify everyone in 40K who have literal streaks of being bad guys

Yeah I can get why

[rocky gale]

Mercy

Mercy please

It's too much

[languid meadow]

Holeyyyyy shiiiiitt

[queen laurel]

Wallet obliteration spell

[daring creek]

Reading a tiny excerpt of voidstalker

[languid meadow]

Palatine Haunts

[queen laurel]

yeah psychic police

[daring creek]

I'll determine whether The Nightlords are good guys or bad guys

[summer mural]

definitely servants of peace

[queen laurel]

That's like asking if Hitler was a good guy or a bad guy

[summer mural]

also the villains of the scream franchise

[rocky gale]

Deathrattle, Gitmob, Sisters and Palanite in the same Preorder window, they want my wallet so bad

[daring creek]

I'm getting the story from both sides

[summer mural]

well

[daring creek]

Holyshit

We have peaked

Hell yes.

[surreal nest]

my store is also having their anniversary event

[summer mural]

theres the Ordo Originatus- who try to uncover the history of the inquisition
then theres the Ordo Redactus - who try to keep the history of the inqusition classified.

there is no good and bad, you just pick whichever you find more entertaining

[surreal nest]

all these great models righht when I lose my job

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-19997328

[daring creek]

There is good and bad. Good is stuff I like and bad is stuff I don't like

[summer mural]

oh i love the nightlords then

[daring creek]

Yeah so obviously they're the good guys

[languid meadow]

levels of stupidity that make the galaxy go round

[summer mural]

who doesnt wanna be a giant hiding in a rosebush waiting to jump the nearest batch of schoolkids and flay them

[daring creek]

Name one bad thing they've done I will wait

Me with the objectively correct position in an argument....

[summer mural]

i dont hate kurze though

kurze is a source of a lot of humour

especially when he tries to torture and mess with vulkan and vulkan just beats him up lol

[queen laurel]

i give up with these two i've seen smarter snotlings

[summer mural]

tbh, i cant decide if I like karamazov or not

I enjoy his consistency, but at the same time...its karamazov

i think id like him a lot more if he actually walked to places instead of moving around on an actual throne

[young pecan]

Out of all of the follies of being corrupted by chaos, Tzeentch is my favorite even if he's not a very interesting chaos god to me overall

Slaanesh follower folly is probably my second favorite WHEN DONE WELL

And not just le nobles have sex

[summer mural]

tzeentch is great, I love nurgle the most though, the flower and garden metaphor with the accompanying visual variety and grotesqueness is a feast for the eyes compared to brass/blood/skulls and purple and black bdsm equipment everywhere

[young pecan]

It's a close tie between Nurgle and Slaanesh for second favorite, Nurgle is better when the latter isn't done perfectly

[summer mural]

also I really like all of the chaos champion marine captain herald guy thing lords, except lucius

[young pecan]

I'm talking more narratively speaking but in terms of how it looks and the aesthetic? Yeah Nurgle by far

[summer mural]

narratively for me its tzeentch, and yeah slaanesh is great

[shrewd depot]

Who the fuck is Norm

[summer mural]

especially with stuff like greed and cacaphonies instead of just sex

[shrewd depot]

And why is his emissary a giant bug

[summer mural]

Norm Mcdonald?

norn queen?

norn emissary?

The Chronicles of Norn-ia?

[shrewd depot]

The third one

[summer mural]

Larger than even a Hive Tyrant, Emissaries combine brute strength with incredible psychic power. They were evolved for the singular purpose of preying on gifted enemy commanders or abducting knowledgeable prey from heavily defended strongholds. In order for this to occur, a Norn Queen imbues Emissaries with the distilled knowledge they need to successfully complete their mission, before a battle begins[2]. Once unleashed, they stalk their targets with eerie alien grace, something a creature their size should not possess, and Emissaries are also able to compress their mass into seemingly impossible confines if they need to. When the Norn Emissaries near their target, however, they move with serpentine speed and are able to leap a great distance into the air and fall upon their prey with their sword-like talons. The Emissaries can use these weapons with blistering speed and also have such immense physical strength that they are capable of easily tearing an Adeptus Custodes apart. This allows them to stomp a Custodes to death, use their legs to kick ones head off or use their tails to snap a Custodes' neck

[queen laurel]

Norn Emissary

[summer mural]

^

[shrewd depot]

I'm specifically asking

Why the fuck are they called that

Who is Norn

Why is his emissary a giant bug

[summer mural]

the norn queen

is the norn

[shrewd depot]

I didn't know Tryanids had queens

[summer mural]

yep, she stays in the hive ship

[queen laurel]

they are literally responsible for making the creatures

[summer mural]

like the capital one

[shrewd depot]

Ok but like

Why 'emissary'

They don't do diplomancy, it just murders you extra hard

[summer mural]

that is tyranid diplomacy

and also I guess to signify the norm emissary as an elite agent type terror

[queen laurel]

it's a representation of the norn queens perfection

obviously that's why it's called an emissary

[summer mural]

Acting as the expressed will of a Norn Queen upon a battlefield, they act as assassins after being supplied with their prey's psionic spoor

[shrewd depot]

Ok but like

The queens aren't the hivemind, right?

[queen laurel]

a Norn Queen imbues Emissaries with the distilled knowledge they need to successfully complete their mission

[summer mural]

so yeah, they are an expression of the queens will

[shrewd depot]

Like all Tyranids share a univseral hivemind?

[queen laurel]

yeah but each hive fleet have separate enough thinking to handle the job how they see fit not everything is micro managed by the hive mind

A high fleet can choose to deploy armored creatures first or if they want swarm the position or something

[summer mural]

also emissary is probably sent out to do an important job

i doubt the norn queen thinks a termagaunt can do whatever she wants the emissary to accomplish

[shrewd depot]

Hm

[queen laurel]

When the Norn Emissaries near their target, however, they move with serpentine speed and are able to leap a great distance into the air and fall upon their prey with their sword-like talons. The Emissaries can use these weapons with blistering speed and also have such immense physical strength that they are capable of easily tearing an Adeptus Custodes apart. This allows them to stomp a Custodes to death, use their legs to kick ones head off or use their tails to snap a Custodes' neck

these things can humble an adeptus custodes

These are deployed when they absolutely want someone gone

[shrewd depot]

I've always kinda operated on the idea that the Tyranid hivemind is like, a collective consciousness rather than a single directed one. Like there isn't a 'brain bug' for them

[summer mural]

its possible and likely there is no physical manifestation of it and the hivemind exists purely on a collective level as a consciousness among the nids

[shrewd depot]

Hive Tyrants or Swarm Lords have never felt like 'leaders' to me, they're just enforcers.

[queen laurel]

every tyrannid is part of the hive mind but some creatures are afforded more degree of being able to more autonomous

[summer mural]

but it does delegate to some extent it appears and doesnt micro coordinate all the multiple hive fleets at once

[queen laurel]

hive tyrants and swarm lord are literally the example of more autonomous

bugs

[summer mural]

yes, also the consciousness isnt like, everpresent constantly consistently, they do have synapse bugs

[queen laurel]

Some were just as dumb as animals yeah but some are afforded a degree of freedom in thinking like for example Deathleaper which is a lictor

[summer mural]

so there is some level of neural connection through which the will of the hive mind is passed through

which can be disrupted or boosted accordingly

so they do have some level of autonomy

[queen laurel]

Don't get it twisted the hive mind has to grip on them they are just allowed to think less robotically

think more like a creative person basically

That's what makes the swarm Lord so dangerous

[summer mural]

swarm lord kind of a beat up wreck by this point

they should upgrade him

[queen laurel]

he's just getting treated like the avatar of khaine

[summer mural]

hence, a beat up wreck

[queen laurel]

yeah and so after his rework he's just gonna get treated the same

[summer mural]

yeah but hel look cooler

[queen laurel]

There's literally no point there

[queen laurel]

maybe a few years down the line his model still holds up

[summer mural]

fair enough

also this emil darkhammer guy seems like a real nice dude

i bet the imperiums proud of him

[daring creek]

Is it bad I want to read the Night Lords Omnibus

[summer mural]

no

[daring creek]

I think they might be me

[summer mural]

why would you think its bad

[daring creek]

I'm just edgy idk

[summer mural]

perfect

read it

[daring creek]

Like

Holyshit

[summer mural]

not that ive read it

but you should

[daring creek]

I read just a few paragraphs depicting how psychotic they are in their pillaging and I'm like

[summer mural]

also sevitar is actually a pretty decent character

[daring creek]

I'm normal.

[summer mural]

he is highly autistic yes, but he is entertaining

[daring creek]

I'm so normal about this

[summer mural]

its normal

[daring creek]

I'm not buying it physically though. It ain't gonna work

I need to buy an E-Ink tablet sometime

[queen laurel]

She lied as naturally as she breathed

[summer mural]

just get some of the chapters permanently tattooed to your arm and read when convenient

[shrewd depot]

I'd read that Norn Emissaries were Custodes' tier, but honestly reading the fight between the Emissary, the Custodes and Captain General I can't help but think they're a little gassed up. Like yeh its murdering them in like, 1 fucking hit or something, but they're literally throwing themselves at it to slow it down. Bodyguards jumping in front of the bullet situation

[daring creek]

"Yeah so we're killing everyone, recording it. And streaming it next city over so they know we're coming and what's gonna happen to them."

And I'm like

Wow

[shrewd depot]

Plus like, how the fuck is a broken neck killing a Custodes? Or being ripped in half?

[daring creek]

Um

[summer mural]

yeah the nightlords love terror through propoganda

[daring creek]

This is bad. This is wrong and so immoral. Yeah its so bad and all that yeah uh. Yeah they're bad people I agree

[summer mural]

thats why they dress like buffoons scary edgeguys, so their visage can scare people

[shrewd depot]

The dude who got his head kicked into orbit I understand, you need the brain lmao, but like, surely 3 out of the 4 dudes who got Norn'd can be saved without needing Dreadnoughts?

[summer mural]

thats what they wanna accomplish , induce fear and terror into a whole planet

or system

[daring creek]

I know

I

I hate them Yeah

I hate eye strain when I'm reading

[summer mural]

like they can just take a city, but they will instead torture like 5 dudes and hang them up in public all mutilated so the city can get scared first

[daring creek]

Awesome

But I like that they crucify someone on a wall to indicate the building has been emptied

To fucking scare people and to tell their own patrols that its empty

[summer mural]

their primarch is an interesting character though

[daring creek]

Double purpose! Yes!

[summer mural]

unlike a bunch of the other ones, he has an actual conflict in him thats shaping his decisions very dramatically

[daring creek]

Huh.

[summer mural]

hes also just a violent bloodthirsty killer

[daring creek]

I'll give it a read probably

[summer mural]

and super emo

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/or-yehuda-edgy-or-yehuda-edgelord-gif-25925736

[summer mural]

but hey, he got sent to a crime ridden planet where he became batman and ruled through fear

and murder

[daring creek]

What accent do night lords have

I need to know so I can imagine their voice better

[summer mural]

no clue, but I am Hoping its transylvanian

and yes ik the blood angels are the resident vampires

[daring creek]

Yeah

But Night Lords feel waaaay more halloween in terms of design

[summer mural]

yeah they got the bat ear flap things

iirc they are also supposed to be pale skinned

on account of not being sunlight loving folk and from a planet thats shrouded in eternal night

and originally being recruited from terran prisons, also not known for their sunlit gardens

[daring creek]

Chatgpt has spoken.

[queen laurel]

you gonna trust a wireback's word?

[summer mural]

[daring creek]

Chatgpt is never wrong

[summer mural]

that is some drip

[shrewd depot]

That was the wrong message to quote lmao

[shrewd depot]

Wonderin' about this

[outer wave]

I mean, its just like breaking the neck of a normal person

[shrewd depot]

But its a Custodes

[outer wave]

Airways and blood flow suddenly stops

So?

[shrewd depot]

fuuuucking iunno

[outer wave]

They could have augmented muscle and bone but a broke neck is a broke neck

[shrewd depot]

Surely their brain can survive without blood for a minute, or saved via dreadnoughts

Like I don't buy a Custodes dying because he got ripped in half

Guardsmen have survied that

[outer wave]

I dont think you're gonna see a Custodes get stitched together like how orks get stitched together

But I mean, Im not a BL writer

[shrewd depot]

I mean again, not even bringing them back to 'normal', just shove 'em in a Dreadnought

[median star]

hmm yes who needs brain function anyway

[outer wave]

Imperials dont even think anyway lmao

[shrewd depot]

Space Marines can literally breath in space

Like a lack of air is not an issue for them

[outer wave]

They can?

[shrewd depot]

Ok so that was an over exaggeration by the source, they can theoretically survive in space by going into hibernation

[median star]

the emperor personly puts fiber opitc high stress cables for nerves and spinal cord into all custodes

[outer wave]

Yeah that makes more sense, even in a space fantasy setting lmao

[queen laurel]

you snap their neck the spine the nervous system central

[shrewd depot]

But again

[queen laurel]

you expect them to survive that?

[median star]

primarchs tho can just bullshit their way through space

[shrewd depot]

Surely a custodes brain can survive without fresh blood, which is already hyper oxygenationed from being a fucking 12ft tall demi-God, for a couple minutes

[median star]

their is no again this like you cut the tendons meat dont move you cut the spinal cord body dont move

[shrewd depot]

Spinal cord being cut sure, it makes the custodes go limp

But he ain't dead

That is the difference I'm arguing here

[outer wave]

Honestly I almost feel like they would require even more air than a normal human being due to their brain capacity and size, so them being cut off of air and nervous system functions would mean the head would expire quicker

[shrewd depot]

Space Marines have survived worse without being put in Dreadnoughts

[dapper gyro]

The body is living, but unable to move at all... so what is it different from a real kill?

[shrewd depot]

Dreadnoughts

Literally fucking Dreadnoughts

The 'lol no' to death

[median star]

i have the idea that maybe just maybe any situation that a custodes might find themselves in where they get their neck snapped them being limp for even half a second would he insta killed by whatever it is doing it to them

[dapper gyro]

Custodes also have dreadnough...

[queen laurel]

they are just basically superhumans though

sure they are like physically speaking better than a marine but biologically speaking they are just humans plus through a lot of the augmentations

[outer wave]

Or GW writing, where nothing is consistent and anything that happens is only because the plot demands it happens

[dapper gyro]

Also, marines often die with way less damage.