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arctic talon
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Though we don’t know when it exactly

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Went back

crystal forum
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makes sense that mars was the jewel of human tech since it's the first colonized planet

arctic talon
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We do know there were allied AI on Mars

crystal forum
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so it had to be constantly kept in check with terraforming equipment

arctic talon
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But they mostly died out for some reason

crystal forum
opaque coyote
arctic talon
opaque coyote
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To back to it's original state

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Which means that if Mars had a earth-like atmosphere when terraformed

wintry scarab
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Is there such a thing like a techmarine neophyte or something along those lines? Do some battlebrothers wear a techmarine right pouldren, for example, in the ultramarines before they have fully become a techmarine? This questions stems from me seeing a ultramarine battlebrother with a mechanicus icon on his right shoulder.

opaque coyote
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It got fucked over

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Or they did something to the rejuvenated core

celest dome
languid meadow
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Does mars in modern 40k have its thin atmosphere?

arctic talon
arctic talon
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Due to pollution

languid meadow
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lmfao

arctic talon
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But yes

celest dome
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Do other FW train Techmarines ?

arctic talon
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Yes

opaque coyote
celest dome
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Never heard that

arctic talon
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Ryza and Metalica do

crystal forum
arctic talon
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We dunno about others

opaque coyote
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Since well, long term terraforming would want the planet to have

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An atmosphere similar to Earth's

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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So it's probably thicker due to the terraforming

languid meadow
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I mean if it was green it had a thicker atmosphere but over the centuries lost it again to go back to being a shithole then it's back to being thick from SMOG

crystal forum
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also i like to imagine the catacombs were once just a big warehouse

opaque coyote
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THEN the pollution

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Pollution solved that problem

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Who needs an ozone layer

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When you got poisonous smog

crystal forum
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it's wild that it still has a "breathable" atmosphere

arctic talon
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The ice caps of mars in 40k have melted not fully

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But they have melted

opaque coyote
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So

crystal forum
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scientifically i think the lack of a strong magnetosphere would strip away any dense atmosphere after a while

arctic talon
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Normal humans can breath on Mars

opaque coyote
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SeriouslyM

arctic talon
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Now granted it’s horrifically polluted air

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But you can breath

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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No

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How do they keep the slaves alive

opaque coyote
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That's why the Emperor casually walking on the surface was

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Like a huge deal

crystal forum
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it's cheaper to have a marginally breathable atmosphere than make millions of breathing units i guess

arctic talon
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Him walking on it without coughing and shit was what was impressive

opaque coyote
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Ah

arctic talon
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Along with him performing a miracle

crystal forum
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they must still be generating oxygen somewhat for the atmosphere to be breathable

opaque coyote
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Thought it was more like

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"Holy shit he isn't dead yet!"

arctic talon
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There’s oxygen generation/life support in pretty much all major forge cities and complexes

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All mechanicus vehicles have onboard life support as well

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Which is a cool thing

crystal forum
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probably the remains of ancient terraforming tech

opaque coyote
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Got it

arctic talon
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The triaros is fully sealed

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And has onboard life support

opaque coyote
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Seriously thouigh

crystal forum
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so does the land raider

opaque coyote
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I was shocked when I went to China when I was like

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7

arctic talon
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Curse of north Chinese coal pollution

opaque coyote
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And seeing the sun literally

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blocked

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by smog

arctic talon
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It’s better nowadays

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Still bad

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But it’s not as bad as it was

crystal forum
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that was america once, steel industry and coal do that

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Coal is super polluting

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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yeah

opaque coyote
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actually just the UK back then

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basically every major industrialized country

crystal forum
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remember it never truly goes away, only gets moved off to where people dont care about

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the industry

arctic talon
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It’s South east Asia’s turn

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And South Asia

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Ig

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It’s still not great though in like east Asia

crystal forum
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so much effort to produce dog shit quality steel

arctic talon
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You dare insult the glorious steel industry of zhong guo nosocialcredit

crystal forum
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steel is one of those things that people dont think about enough

arctic talon
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Steel production is super complex

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And dangerous

crystal forum
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just 150 years ago they coudn't even dream of having the control over impurities we have today

arctic talon
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It’s crazy how humans as a species almost ran out of usable iron

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Before we figured out to properly forge iron

crystal forum
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before the discovery of smelting ore, they had to use native iron

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which came from asteroids

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there's an ancient egyptian dagger i think that was found to be made of asteroid iron

arctic talon
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I do wonder what would have happened

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If humanity ran out of usable iron before we figured it out

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I guess melt down the crappy pig iron and try again

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But still

crystal forum
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metal can always be resmelted yeah

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people used to actually recycle back then

arctic talon
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💀

crystal forum
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as in reuse farming equipment

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shovel with a broken handle can be reforged into a spade

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that's why it was a big thing to take an army's weapons after winning a war against them

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people often wonder what they would do if they were sent back in time with modern technology and the joke is usually that we can't explain to a roman how a phone works

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but could you explain how to forge steel?

arctic talon
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Fuck no lol

crystal forum
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i could probably do gunpowder but idk where to get potassium nitrate in roman times

celest dome
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Bone steel maybe, but I'd have to test it out

arctic talon
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My metallurgy knowledge caps out at bronze

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lol

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And some other obscure shit because it’s cool for computing

celest dome
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Honestly if you have 1 month to learn stuff up, before being sent to the Roman times, the best thing you could do is actually pigments.

crystal forum
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bronze is fun since it relatively simple

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the mining of copper and tin isn't that complicated

celest dome
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Yes

crystal forum
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romans already knew of that

celest dome
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They knew a lot of them yes

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But quite a few were not used yet

crystal forum
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is it not because they didn't have access to those

arctic talon
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They had the ability to make them

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But didn’t know the process

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All the stuff was around

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Just not the knowledge in that instance

celest dome
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Another thing is flat glass panels, just need quicksilver (which they had), and sifted sand

arctic talon
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I want savory soy milk, except that shit doesn’t exist in the US

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Smh

arctic talon
celest dome
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I suppose it it, but it's how it used to be done

arctic talon
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I c

celest dome
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Don't think current glass panels are made using it still

celest dome
arctic talon
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Or it isn’t the right kind

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If it’s unsweetened lol

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I must simply make my own soy milk

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It’s the only way

crystal forum
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i think i could try to teach romans how to smelt iron ore if i could produce coke out of whatever they have

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they didn't understand that you need to strip the oxygen away from the ore

arctic talon
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I mean they could make coke I think

arctic talon
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Independently

celest dome
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Isn't Coke fairly recent ?

crystal forum
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coke is first thought of during the renaissance

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and only really put into practice during the early industrial revolution

arctic talon
arctic talon
celest dome
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Is it like a Milk soup ?

arctic talon
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It’s boiled soy milk with a tiny bit of vinegar + a good bit of salt or soy sauce

crystal forum
arctic talon
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And then you stick a Chinese donut into it

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Because tradition

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I don’t actually know why one goes in it

arctic talon
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Chemistry is kind of insane

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lol

crystal forum
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like even if we were to explain the processes behind this stuff, romans would still not know wtf a molecule is

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and sure maybe they know how to make steel or flat windows now but they're no closer to advancing themselves

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maybe roman times is just a bad era to do this

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i think renaissance would be a good period since that's when science is starting to be taken seriously as a method

arctic talon
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Go to one of the Dynastic era’s of China or Egypt right before it implodes/j

crystal forum
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that's the thing that wouldn't be very good i think. back then science was treated like a silly passtime by royalty and stuff

arctic talon
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I agree

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Tbh

celest dome
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Honestly I think the biggest thing you could learn and introduce to the Roman is more modern ship wrighting

crystal forum
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lots of people figuring stuff out on their own but not really advancing science as a collective

arctic talon
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I was just making a joke of the whole right before the dynasty implodes

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lol

crystal forum
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the thing i try to remember is that even if i learned what pythagoras figured out thousands of years ago, he was still most definitely way smarter than me

celest dome
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Ship whriting, crop rotation, not sure what else, if you really want to be useful

crystal forum
jade holly
celest dome
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We're speaking in the hypotetical case of time travel

crystal forum
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i should also specify roman republic era

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if they knew how to make proper ships then maybe the romans would have lasted a lot longer

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the amount of trading they could do

celest dome
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Give the Roman the techniques to build Caravelles and I'm pretty sure they've have gone to the America.

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They were different

crystal forum
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real question is how would they have interacted with north american natives

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without the extreme tech differences that europeans had

plush mason
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the same way they did the Gauls and Britanics

celest dome
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Pretty much the same way they did with most "barbarian" they met

crystal forum
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they might have respected eachother honestly

plush mason
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invade and enslave in the name of "civilizing" them

plush mason
crystal forum
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they respected those they conquered i think

plush mason
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nope

crystal forum
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a roman was a roman

plush mason
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and no roman was equal

celest dome
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Some were lucky to get the chance to become Citizens, but it's a minority

plush mason
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yup

crystal forum
celest dome
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The disparities were bigger

plush mason
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rome was a nation that saw itself as the chosen of the gods

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all those they ensalved should thank them

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was their view

celest dome
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Kind of Colonisation

crystal forum
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well in any case im sure romans would have had a very hard time invading peak north america

celest dome
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Like Canada ?

jade holly
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Hannibal on the other hand?

arctic talon
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MOUND BUILDERS WHOOOOO

jade holly
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He’d invade in his sleep

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🗿

arctic talon
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Actually I think the mound builders didn’t exist yet

crystal forum
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there was a lot of native americans in north america before europeans arrived

plush mason
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we know very little about pre columbian Americas sadly

crystal forum
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and from what we know they had large federations of tribes

plush mason
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a mix of mostly oral history and the many wars and plagues the Europeans brought destroyed most of that history

crystal forum
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europeans had the advantage of trade on their side since steel tools and guns weren't super rare to them

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idk what romans would do really

celest dome
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I don't think the North American were much further than the North European were

crystal forum
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wdym

celest dome
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As in the Celts or Goth being on similar levels of tech, and lower population numbers

paper haven
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The Mayan were extremely advanced, they just didn't have steel.

crystal forum
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americas didn't have iron or horses which is very huge

celest dome
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Like South American against Celts/Goth... that's a tough match up

crystal forum
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that's what i'm saying

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military wise it would be a lot harder to just flat out invade

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even europeans couldn't really do that before they settled in fully

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like conquistadors had to pit the aztecs against eachother to bring them down

celest dome
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Well the Roman did that in each of their campaigns

paper haven
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Musket armed Spanish had a lot of trouble against the Americans, I don't think the Celts would have fared well

celest dome
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Celts would be steam rolled

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No question

crystal forum
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romans would ofc be better organized

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which is the question here

celest dome
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Honestly I think the difference between the Contistator and the Romans is that the Romans would probably start sending way more mens

crystal forum
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yeah

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it's a different mentality of war too

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guns changed a lot

celest dome
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Cortes was 500 mens

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In late Republican times the legions were formed of 5,200 men

crystal forum
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a full legion would be pretty strong against even peak aztecs im sure

celest dome
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And the Legion would have engineering corps that the Contistador did not have

crystal forum
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plus if romans got access to corn

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a crop which is as important to south america as wheat is to europe

celest dome
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Shit they get Tomato way to early, they'll be nerfed into Italians and get wrecked

crystal forum
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lol

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but really corn would be huge

celest dome
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True

crystal forum
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plus cavalry vs only foot

celest dome
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And mass cavalry compared to small groups

crystal forum
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it would really be funny to imagine aztecs at their peak, thinking themselves unstoppable then all of a sudden a legion shows up

celest dome
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Did the Republican Rome still have augures ?

languid meadow
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yes

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at least they should since iirc Augures went away with the rise of Christianity no?

celest dome
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Make sense

plush mason
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easily in the 10s of thousands

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the Aztec empire was made up of many vassalized tribes kept in check by mass human sacrifices

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so when Cortes came along he found a land full of dissent and ripe for overthrowing

rose thorn
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i HATE egg drop soup

arctic talon
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No

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It’s soy milk

rose thorn
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oh

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i wish i didnt hear thta

arctic talon
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lol

celest dome
plush mason
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honestly if Rome had reached the new world they would have done like Cortes did, would make their job far easier

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ofc Cortes only really used the natives as he was a criminal with no support from Spain

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and his supplies would run out well before he managed to take down the Aztec empire without the local support

arctic talon
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It’s like a really rich salty dish

languid meadow
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Im slanning it

vagrant fox
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Looks a bit like congee and now I'm craving congee

celest willow
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hey I know this is dumb but why cant khorne or slaanesh leave the warp and fight

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like whats stopping nurgle from just popping in and doing whatever

arctic talon
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A greater daemon leaving the warp already requires reality to be destabilized and further destabilizes it

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An entire proper chaos god leaving the warp would likely just destroy the galaxy

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And would take a fuck ton of sacrifice and instability to do in the first place

lament shoal
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Plus afaik the chaos gods are basically incomprehensible to the average mortal. Really the only reason they'd ever want to leave the warp is so that they could gain some followers, but you can't really do that if your would be worshipers just instantly die from your presence lol

arctic talon
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Yeah

rose thorn
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I wonder why AOS had a tighter lock on leaks than 40k

arctic talon
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Likely due to the smaller team size overall

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Less points for a leak

jade holly
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Plus why leak AoS

arctic talon
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bcs its cool

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smh

crystal forum
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also im still not entirely convinced that 40k leaks aren't intentional

rocky gale
shadow plover
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it's also a shit tactic pupper

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you can generate much more hype/marketing value with the directed reveals than a random drop to the internet, which in turn will lessen the impact of the planned reveals

shadow plover
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like a recent example: the reveal of the C'Tan Shard was so shit, it should've been a major reveal but they had to scramble a short article and some b-roll footage for a model that isn't coming out in more than a year

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and spoil the whole necron tomb world kill team campaign while at it

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now they're desperately trying to generate hype for the middle release by covering it in mystery like ooo what could it be and I promise you it will be quite lackluster compared to the final C'Tan shard piece

crystal forum
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it will be fire

shadow plover
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Could be but unlikely

celest dome
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Their marketing reveals are in the Rumour engines, it's fully controlled

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Leaks aren't controlled

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So they're not great ways to do it

hallow saddle
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No way the leaks are deliberate lol

steel lagoon
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okay question

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is the darktide symbol Darktide like. grendyls insignia?

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is it the symbol of tertium? of atoma?

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the symbol for brahms?

celest dome
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Tertium/Atoma insignia

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The 2 spikes are representing the Twin spires of Tertium

raven stone
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shadow plover
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vagrant fox
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what if these big buff war criminals were huge women with humongous homononnongas I mean massive ol bitties and for no reason they just cared about some random nobody lameass bozo

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lamest thing I ever saw

plush mason
sacred ginkgo
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Yeah but in the last few centuries we made things like pre prepared garlic bread

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We had some minor redeeming factor

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This video on the internet seals the fate of our entire race

plush mason
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very Beerus coded rn

sacred ginkgo
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Aren’t they a god of destruction or something

plush mason
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yup

sacred ginkgo
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That just looks like a cat because they can

plush mason
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he is from the 6th universe

sacred ginkgo
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The last shot of that gif could be an actual cat

plush mason
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his twin brother is also a cat

sacred ginkgo
plush mason
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tldr destroyer gods are picked from the most powerful fighters in the universe and trained by an angel that then becomes their servant

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there are 13 universes in total and each one is different though the ones that add up to 13 are "twins" with similar timelines and lifeforms

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so Beerus likely is from a cat like alien race

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but the important thing is he will literally destroy a planet because he thought the food was too greasy or the pillows not comfy enough

shadow plover
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weak lore

raven stone
plush mason
shadow plover
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Nothing ogryn_pathetic

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DBZ is fine I guess

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at least it was when I was 12

sacred ginkgo
plush mason
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yup

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and hell the ultimate god of dragon ball is a literal child

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this mutated football head can unmake a universe just by saying "go away"

sacred ginkgo
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“How the hell are we going to raise the stakes this time they’ve killed god for 3 consecutive seasons”
“Just make it god god but also a child trust”

plush mason
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yup

urban spire
shadow plover
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and I stand by it

rocky gale
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Sylvaneth deer people rise up

summer mural
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exodites seem weird

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also they dont seem like all that...under threat compared to everyone else

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and I mean, dinosaurs are cool but like

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its not exactly the pinnacle of 40k technology

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I feel someone should have made the exodites extinct by now KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
summer mural
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yeah like their planets are hostile

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sure

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but like, it aint so bad compared to what you have to do to invade other faction planets tbh

queen laurel
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maiden words are still precious words for the pointy ears so you know

storm jungle
summer mural
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i did

storm jungle
summer mural
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do they lose a lot

storm jungle
queen laurel
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^

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You have to expand all of your resources to basically get rid of them

summer mural
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also that reminds me, if the craftworld like the exodites why dont they just unite and live with em, they get to live on planets again

storm jungle
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Its extremely risky to stay on a stationary planet as a populace as big as Craftworld eldar.

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Their lifestyles also do not match.

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its like asking why dont all muslim nations unite

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(and I say this as one lol)

queen laurel
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^
exodite completely live differently because of the way the escape is different compared to the craftworlders

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It's just like a case of real life where Once Upon a time this group of people were one but they split and depending on their environment culture forming and stuff they become different people

summer mural
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it seems like craftworlders are taking the raw end of the deal here

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which you know fair enough, given that they get along with exodites

storm jungle
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They get to live on a utopia ship that gives them anything they want and avoid conflict unless its necessary, craftworld eldar dont really have the "raw end".

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they live a nomadic post-scarcity lifestyle

queen laurel
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so naturally they are way better suited to fighting

summer mural
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also

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the exodites should export some dinsosaurs to the craftworlds

storm jungle
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They dont need em.

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They got tanks, jets and other superweapons lol

queen laurel
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^

summer mural
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eldar look pretty desperate to me , wraith stuff is last resort and considering how often they need to use wraith constructs , last resort is pretty befitting

storm jungle
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I mean yeah they are a dying race, thats the point

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(even if they will never die becaues they are a tabletop faction lol)

summer mural
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thats why i said exodites should probably loan them some dinos KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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I mean why

queen laurel
storm jungle
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they dont need them lol

summer mural
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dont the dinos come with laser guns

queen laurel
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and again they have literal giant robots and literal tanks

storm jungle
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any idea how gigantic the craftworld eldar arsenal is

summer mural
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well, not gigantic enough is my point, considering they need to use their last resort stuff all the time

queen laurel
storm jungle
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No?

queen laurel
storm jungle
summer mural
storm jungle
summer mural
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true, but they use em so often it does look like they need help

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hence , help

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send half the exodite garrison to them too

queen laurel
storm jungle
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I think you are mixing up Iyanden with every craftworld yeah lol

queen laurel
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most of the time they have alot of troops

storm jungle
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They literally got standing warhosts of warriors and vehicles

queen laurel
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Not as much as other factions but enough

summer mural
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so what you're telling me is, the eldar dont need assistance

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of any kind

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they are doing just swell with their armies

queen laurel
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They might be a dying race sure but like this is a dying race of an empire that literally once held the Galaxy like a bitch

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they can handle themselves pretty well

summer mural
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i dunno, eldar seem pretty strong, they also seem on the verge of extinction all the time

storm jungle
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Welcome to the warhammer paradox.

celest dome
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Same thing apply to humanity

queen laurel
summer mural
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also, how weak strong are the exodites compared to like other factions, in general terms of army strength

storm jungle
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Necrons are on the verge of always waking up their dynasties but dont.

Tyranids are on the verge of always arriving full-force but dont.

Orks are on the verge of completely combining their forces but dont.

Eldar are on the verge of extinction but dont.

This is the warhammer norm lol

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they arent suppose to wage wars

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so you take a guess KEKW_ogryn

summer mural
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damn

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I thought they were living great lives because they can actually fight off invaders

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like , the strong ones

storm jungle
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They sometimes can but they need assistance of craftworlds and other allies.

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They literally are the amish. Again.

summer mural
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also does the casual eldar craftworld use the webway itself , like as a ship

storm jungle
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Webways are entrances/portals, they arent ships.

summer mural
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no as in

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do the craftworlds go into the webway , like the world itself

queen laurel
# summer mural like , the strong ones

yeah but here's the thing there is a faction that do their sctick but because of bullshit can actually make it work

ork snakebites and Beastsnaggas which just can happen to grow their dinosaurs for free so

storm jungle
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In extremely rare circumstances if theres a webway gate big enough for it, but its almost always never, Craftworlds are planet-ships essentially, they usually go in sublight speeds through empty/wilderness-space.

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its one of the reasons why they tend to avoid danger or be careful in areas they pass through in the void

summer mural
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ah they need the gate to big enough, because itd make sense for them to just park their craftworld in the webway itself

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like you know, instead of floating around the eye of terror or wherever

storm jungle
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The webway is dangerous too so no.

summer mural
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yeah that one

storm jungle
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theres thousands of Craftworlds across the galaxy

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all do their own shit and traverse carefully however it fits them

storm jungle
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you are generalizing a lot over what 1 specific craftworld does

summer mural
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they have every vehicle ever created

queen laurel
summer mural
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well

queen laurel
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just by existing more of them can be made

summer mural
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feral orks are just crazy

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like

queen laurel
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eldar don't have the option

summer mural
#

orks just go to planet, more orks spawn

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the end

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eldar are just tragically doomed not even in the normal 40k sense, like that time they were about to get free of slaanesh and the deathwatch are just like " no lol"

storm jungle
#

I mean yeah again thats the point.

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But like, it doesnt really matter

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Eldar arent gonna go anywhere lol

queen laurel
#

^

#

this is the tabletop setting paradox

#

Trust me if it really gets bad to the point it will just make up some bad ******** like

storm jungle
#

Yeah its just empty in-universe doomer lore

queen laurel
#

The elder gods have regained their power suddenly

summer mural
#

indeed

queen laurel
#

and now they are back in like relative good strength

summer mural
#

i dont disagree

storm jungle
#

Basically dont think so hard about it, it doesnt matter.

summer mural
#

crons seem to have a bright future

storm jungle
#

Well, maybe

summer mural
#

apart from just having it really bad in the past

storm jungle
#

lol

#

They have it bad rn too

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they infight, they argue, they lose tombworlds to lesser races, etc

#

not everything is a W for them either

queen laurel
#

like even a necron warrior is irreplaceable

summer mural
#

I like the crons because whenever they show up , they seem like they are having a good time, like the cron leader tends to have a generally bond villain evilness where he holds all the cards till the plot gets along or whatever

queen laurel
#

Of course the writers are just gonna make more because the Galaxy can fit everything apparently but like the background lore is that they cannot regain anything

summer mural
#

the numbers infamously dont make sense yes

storm jungle
#

it can be pretty miserable

summer mural
#

trazyn I guess too

#

there are certainly exceptions

#

also isnt there a craftworld that survives living in the eye of terror

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like the one where maugen ra is from

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I think

storm jungle
#

No lol

#

Maugan Ra dragged that craftworld from out of the Eye

summer mural
#

wasnt there some gimmick or mystey about his world

#

ah i see

rose thorn
#

the new imperial knight rules are pretty nice

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a custom quest or a random quest to get extra command points

#

alot of command points becasue the army assumes your gonan spam every command under the sun for your knights

summer mural
#

also this terminator resistance game is incredibly underrated

rose thorn
#

?

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the videogame?

summer mural
#

yeah

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its really good

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it doesnt have good critical reviews but its got amazing user reviews, because the story is really good and its got john connor and kyle reese and stuff

rose thorn
#

surprising

summer mural
#

and you can play as a terminator in the future war too

#

also im so happy theres no arnie cameo

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and there are in fact, future weapons you get a glimpse of in t2

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like plasma weapons

#

and the dystopia is awesome tbh

#

like im a sucker for good urban post apocalypse, and you're spending good chunk of this game in those with t 800s hunting you

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but then, I also liked salvation, no one seemed to like that movie except me KEKW_ogryn

rose thorn
#

i thought salvation was pretty alright if you watch it before the first 2 like i did

summer mural
#

howd you manage to pull that off

median star
#

apparently literal child soldier proto dreadnaughts existed during great crusade

summer mural
#

based

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Imperium needs a guard regiment just for kids

#

call it the kids next door

rose thorn
summer mural
#

i cant imagine watching 1 and 2 after salvation

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do you just go like " Oh is this what this franchise is about"

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" and not the apocalyptic action scenes?"

median star
#

also funny

summer mural
#

ah yes

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ferrus's arms

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still, i prefer his arms to dorns imperial fist

lofty mason
#

Do you think Astartes-to-Astartes fight look like that Kryptonian fight scene from Man of Steel thorugh normal human eyes?

summer mural
#

no

outer wave
#

Nothing so epic I dont think

summer mural
#

I think they just bash into each other like nfl players

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and theres usually some weapon swinging involved

celest dome
summer mural
#

why

rose thorn
summer mural
rose thorn
#

fall of cadia

rose thorn
#

you get to bring child soldier militas back in the original release

summer mural
#

we need it back

#

technology is truly ruining the world, vat grown adult infantry smh, what happened to just using mass child soldiers

summer mural
#

marine vs marine is like 2 nfl players armed with glowing sticks, or like sumo wrestlers, but they are fully standing up

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also frat boys fighting to impress girls

outer wave
#

Two sigma males trying to impress their beta male friend.....

summer mural
#

thats probably more akin to a dance, it probably would be if the harlequins werent exceptionally agile

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also I got no idea how thats gonna go

#

probably like a grasshopper fighting a fly or something

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or like a weed addict fighting a cocaine addict

paper haven
outer wave
paper haven
#

same thing, really

crystal forum
#

mood

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i wish two buff guys would fight for me

paper haven
#

I'm sure there's a few of those weird Alpha male groups that would fit the bill.

crystal forum
paper haven
#

Seems likely. I often have no idea what people are trying to do.

summer mural
#

tau battlesuit vs battlesuit would be cool

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well, i guess its basically armored core 6

crystal forum
#

and it often involves being gay

paper haven
#

Really, I had no idea

crystal forum
#

there are two wolves inside me

soft thunder
#

New 40k fan-content cultural staple just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPeDt_DPzfo

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golden imp
#

So I know the guard have worked with Tau before, and space marines have worked with necrons. Have space marines and Tau ever worked together?

storm jungle
#

Never and not really no

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Even the time Blood Angels teamed up with Crons was a very specific circumstance, no one in 40k is really made to team up with each other.

summer mural
#

how dare you

#

cadia teamed up with a blackstone fortress

dapper gyro
#

They walked away peacefully because both of them were depleted of everything to keep fighting.

lament shoal
summer mural
#

it was a short lived, dynamic and explosive partnership

dapper gyro
#

Both BA and Necrons were barely survived.

summer mural
#

its kinda weird they designed deathwatch to not have an overall chapter master type leader

#

like , seems like a missed opportunity to sell a cool mini

#

even the grey knights have draigo kinda

summer mural
#

as much as I dont mind it getting blown up

#

I wish abaddon actually managed to you know fight them into defeat

storm jungle
#

they are spec ops groups made to be stretched across the galaxy

storm jungle
#

the pylons on Cadia were closing the Eye lol

#

the Fortress was also useless and Chaos was basically winning the planet anyway

summer mural
#

you know as well as I do they can make a dw chapter master work to sell a cool mini , if they wanted to chadgryn

lament shoal
#

Deathwatch Guilliman model KEKW_ogryn

summer mural
#

I like the premise of the deathwatch

#

and the kill team style strikes too

crystal forum
#

deathwatch are awesome and if you shit on them i will find you

storm jungle
#

deathwatch are lame and if you dont shit on them i will find you

golden imp
#

Deathwatch have a silly name

lament shoal
#

The duality of man

storm jungle
#

they some kinda Watch

summer mural
#

i like the deathwatch more than sisters and grey knights tbh

storm jungle
#

who watch Death

#

next you'll tell me theres Marines in Space

lament shoal
#

Mfw the space marines are watching death

golden imp
#

Who watches the death watches?

storm jungle
#

lmao

#

god sakes

lament shoal
#

What are we, some kinda deathwatch?

#

Say that again

rocky gale
#

Why are my Sisters of Battle catching strays when everyones shitting on Deathwatch

crystal forum
#

who up deathing their watches

lament shoal
#

Weird how they haven't made a deathwatch focused game yet afaik

crystal forum
#

SM2

storm jungle
#

LOL

storm jungle
#

now is the time of the ork

#

(according to leaks anyway for next edition)

summer mural
#

look I love the grey knights, mostly because of all the psyker compatible sick gear and permanent terminator armor, but they seem like the least human space marines ever, what with having runes inscribes onto their bones, having no memories of past lives and taking an anti daemon name and of course purging whomever says the c word

storm jungle
#

bruh

rocky gale
storm jungle
#

no shit

lament shoal
# crystal forum SM2

That was only the prologue tho, I'm talking an entire ass campaign centered around them

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

they are the fucking grey knights

#

they arent made to be human

#

lmao

storm jungle
#

Hmm

summer mural
#

yeah thats why i dont like them, they are literally just arnie terminators with dope gear

lament shoal
crystal forum
#

lieutenant buttcheek

rocky gale
#

If next edition all Sisters get is another solo HQ model I'm going to cry

summer mural
#

deathwatch on the other hand, are fun

#

also deathwatch dont have to deal with all the excessive warp fuckery like having one of them walking the warp for centuries scaring poor daemons from their homes, they instead get to do cool shit like make shotgun shells that hurt orks more

lament shoal
crystal forum
#

she gets a combi heavy bolter so it's ok

lament shoal
#

Lmfao

dapper gyro
#

DeathWatch with their decentralized HQ, very good to avoid security compromise without killing everyone around.

rocky gale
#

We already got our range refresh which brought us up to the new scale, we just didn't cry about it like Space Marines did

summer mural
#

also that one deathwatch prison is cool

#

where they have some eldritch cthulu type xenos or some such

lament shoal
#

I like xenophase blades, give me more

storm jungle
#

bros literally gotta steal alien technology from how much their own tech sucks

#

crazy 💀

crystal forum
#

green sword for when the power sword doesn't cut concrete fast enough

celest dome
#

Introduce Xenophase blades, have them act at Green Power Sword KEKW_ogryn

summer mural
#

necrons be like " is that woman in the tight bodysuit using that toy sword I gave my son for his birthday???"

crystal forum
#

the butter knife

lament shoal
#

The recent sm2 update trailer reminded me of their existence and I have since decided that the homebrew I'm working on will have some in their arsenal since they like to use repurposed xeno tech for their weapons

golden imp
#

SM2 would have been cooler if it was just death watch

#

Would fit the small squad thing well too

summer mural
#

indeed

storm jungle
#

tbh Space Marines can deploy small kill-teams as well

summer mural
#

could have been between 1 and 2

storm jungle
#

Deathwatch is just cooler however ia gree

golden imp
#

Aren’t ultramarines all about big numbers and full deployments though?

summer mural
#

also you get squad of veterans from different chapters with mixed personalities working together, thats cool

golden imp
#

Hit em with your whole back

lament shoal
#

Being sent to the deathwatch as a blood angel or one of their successors has gotta fucking suck tho

rocky gale
#

Also the characters in Multiplayer didn't need to be established characters in the campaign

#

Just make them faceless blorbos, making me some B team Ultramarine chump isn't what I'm here for

golden imp
#

I didn’t like space marine combat. Felt so weak

crystal forum
#

you're weak

lament shoal
#

Would've been nice if they included chapter specific lines for MP but oh well

storm jungle
summer mural
#

the flesh is weak.

storm jungle
golden imp
#

And those stupid flying mini bosses are the WORST

lament shoal
golden imp
#

We have so little ammo and they take all of it and more to bring em down

rocky gale
#

Didn't enjoy the combat in SM2 at all tbh, just felt so ass. Like let me shoot 20 bolter rounds into this termagaunt to kill it, okay now there's only 400 more termagaunts on my screen. Thank goodness I only have 30 bullets left.

summer mural
#

do primarchs get haircuts from a servitor

crystal forum
#

yes

#

but it's their chapter master who does it

summer mural
#

the one enemy calgar cant defeat

lament shoal
#

Brother captain, that chapter serf done chopped by shit up bad!

summer mural
#

his primarchs perfect blonde hair

crystal forum
#

those power fists wont help him in this case

summer mural
#

well

#

I wonder if abaddon gets his haircut from a servitor too

#

or does he just get like a slaaneshi daemonette to do it

#

he probably literally gets fulgrim to do it

crystal forum
#

he's bald

summer mural
#

he has a thing

#

a topknot

#

its not a knot per se

#

idk what you call it

crystal forum
#

it's glued on

summer mural
#

oh

#

why

crystal forum
#

bald

lament shoal
#

Abaddon's in crippling debt because he lost 12 fucking black crusades and now the chaos gods are gonna repossess his house

golden imp
#

Would they need special blades to cut their hair as hair is skin and primarch skin is TOUGH

summer mural
#

well maybe the hair is like normal hair

golden imp
#

Dorn needs an angle grinder

crystal forum
#

they're not superman

crystal forum
summer mural
#

a servitor can probably do it

#

dorn uses his chainsword to shave anyone in his legion who grows their hair out

golden imp
#

The perfect haircut with the best defensive stats

crystal forum
#

that's why black templars have bowl cuts

golden imp
#

The mullet

crystal forum
#

because they're all ugly and dumb

summer mural
#

guilliman probably had the best grooming growing up

#

in comparison

crystal forum
#

erm fulgrim?

summer mural
#

didnt fulgrim have to like

#

conquer everything

#

whereas guilliman started off as a noble

#

or fulgrim didnt, i forgot what fulgrim did on his world

crystal forum
#

everybody does

#

they even forget it's called chemos

lament shoal
#

And no im not joking he had wives lol

summer mural
#

oh yeah chemos

#

well sanguinius is probably there too, but i meant guilliman probably got the most training in like , table manners and things

lament shoal
crystal forum
#

seriously though who decided to give them historical monk hair

#

worst decision ever

summer mural
#

wait is that a real thing

#

do all black templars actually have bowl cuts

crystal forum
#

i know some of the models do

summer mural
#

thats terrible

rocky gale
lament shoal
rocky gale
#

Really shows off they're a bunch of dorks

summer mural
#

i do like helbrechts design though, he looks exactly how id like the boss of the black templars to look

lament shoal
storm jungle
#

its the point

#

it looks archaic to us

#

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKS

rocky gale
#

Yea they're supposed to look like dumb losers, because they are

summer mural
#

but we havent even gotten to how the alpha legion are probably styling experts with all the disguising tricks

lament shoal
#

We shitting on the BTs now?

summer mural
#

and omegon can probably apply makeup better than most wealthy imperium ladies

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

LMAO

crystal forum
#

but non BL players didn't give a shit

storm jungle
#

The "treat mutants, navigators" etc badly

#

like

#

literally who cares?

#

your Chapter are murderous monsters bruh

crystal forum
#

it's so funny how it changes literally nothing

#

"nooooo my black templars treat navigators well!! soyjak "

rocky gale
#

Really takes the wind out of the sails in Helsreach when you remember Grimaldus is probably rocking this look under the helmet

golden imp
#

Just make em bald

lament shoal
#

Assuming that's what you meant by BL

crystal forum
#

oh i meant BT

lament shoal
#

Ah gotcha

#

Still funny tho lmao

golden imp
#

BLT

#

Acronyms

rocky gale
#

It's actually an initialism

#

It's only an acronym if you say it like a word

#

Like NASA

crystal forum
#

5$ bounty for larmoth's tabletop collection

rocky gale
#

That doesn't seem like a lot

crystal forum
#

10$ bounty

celest dome
#

So a BLT sandwish is an initialism cause you technically just spell the letters

lament shoal
#

How much of them are unpainted

rocky gale
crystal forum
#

like any good collection

rocky gale
#

Yea most are unpainted, I really love building models and really dislike painting

#

All my joy is in building and kitbashing, painting is ehhhh

crystal forum
#

20$

golden imp
#

I would pay people to paint them for me

crystal forum
#

sassing will only increase the bounty

arctic talon
#

@rose thorn speaking of AOS leaks there just were some lmao

rose thorn
arctic talon
# rose thorn LETS GOOO, what are they?

A poster who was 90% correct on the Skaven contents of the Skaventide box has posted the following about an Ogor refresh:

  • 3 unique heroes
    • Unique Tyrant
    • Unique Butcher (War Machine)
    • Unique Maneater (Maneaters Warmaster)
  • Hunters
  • Mournfangs
  • Butchers
  • Tyrant
  • Ogor gluttons
  • Ironguts
  • "and more fatty things"

They've also noted some losses for the current range:

  • Icebrow hunter
  • Frost sabres
  • Firebelly
  • Icefall yhetees
  • Leadbelchers
  • Great mawpot
  • Tyrant (2019)
rocky gale
celest dome
#

Wait losing Leadbelcher ?

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Well they’re replacing the tyrant

#

With another tyrant

rose thorn
#

Yeha but the new tyrant is still a nice kit if not monopose to hell

arctic talon
#

💀

celest dome
#

Leadbelcher and Firebelly not being replaced but taken out is strange

rose thorn
#

Isn’t fire belly finecast?

arctic talon
#

Fire belly is fine cast yeah

#

I’d assume they’re being renamed

#

Or GW is removing them for now and replacing them later

#

Like they sometimes do

rose thorn
#

I doubt the asthetic is are changing much, after release/reveal unless it’s like night and day it’s probably gonna still look good to have 1 or 2 of the old kits

#

Without making your army looked aged as fuck

celest dome
#

I quite liked the Leadbelcher, both as concept and mini

rose thorn
rocky gale
#

Leadbelchers probably removed and then reintroduced with Warcry or something

#

Or atleast a reinterpretation of them

rose thorn
#

My guess is the hunters is like a 5 man of the underworlds guy

#

In concept

celest dome
#

Leadbelcher Warcry would be somewhat surprising tbh

celest dome
rose thorn
#

Pretty sure they were supposed to be pirates with eye patches and shoulder grots and using like boat cannons lol

#

Idk the lore though

celest dome
#

Lore was that they picked them from defeated armies

#

Or got them as rewards

rose thorn
#

Ah fair

opaque coyote
green loom
#

Real

rocky gale
#

Hey progressive authoritarianism is a thing

arctic talon
#

Authoritarian + fanatic xenophile 💀

#

Or pacifist

languid meadow
#

"I thought we would be killing the xenos-"
"FUCK THE ALIEN NOW"

#

I really hope lead belchers are replaced with something I love them so much

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

I haven’t played that much ironically

tough haven
#

I’m trying to write my GSC, do they typically see the patriarch as merely some sort of divine avatar or do they typically see them as the Emperor?

#

Or do they see the hive fleet/hive mind as the Emperor

#

When it is based on the imperial creed that is

#

I’m trying to write one that can survive as a sanctioned cult on a shrine world

#

Without attracting undue suspicion

arctic talon
#

Like a saint

queen laurel
#

They have now advanced in society where they can iron work cannons you see

#

Though of course it's easier to just take them from the humies

plush mason
crystal forum
#

authoritarian is my fav trait

#

i love having massive borders

wintry scarab
#

Thank you youtube. Very cool.

storm jungle
#

Based as hell

#

I mean uh

#

disgusting

spring cairn
#

the browsing experience is tailored to the user

#

based on a complex algorithm

crystal forum
rose thorn
#

Good store btw it provides size translations

crystal forum
#

which is funny since i have bought clothes on femboy fatale before and never got ads

rose thorn
#

Probably the third best femboy store

wintry scarab
# wintry scarab Thank you youtube. Very cool.

Its just funny. I live in the UK and most of this shit is blocked for me because i aint giving them no ID. Yet youtube advertisers can just show me whatever the fuck they want. I remember seeing this one ad for ai that was literally just softcore porn.

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

basically every single site on the internet takes it to some degree lol

wintry scarab
queen laurel
#

Every single place your information is going to get taken from you whether you like it or not

wintry scarab
#

But to my understanding, you have the right to opt out of data collection. They cannot legally take data until you agree. But now the government is enforcing you to provide them data or essentially be denied access to the internet.

crystal forum
#

companies break laws all the time

dapper gyro
#

I worked the hell out of my chest, I will show it.

rose thorn
wintry scarab
crystal forum
#

join the dark side

storm jungle
#

Even if you dont agree they 100% still take it

crystal forum
#

and by dark i mean black ⬛

storm jungle
#

but its mostly for like inconsequential shit

surreal nest
crystal forum
rose thorn
#

Let me find it

wintry scarab
wintry scarab
crystal forum
#

crazy i know

storm jungle
#

^

#

They put a lot of sussy shit in there because people never read it due to the complete amount of text

#

oldest trick in the book lol

median star
#

im sure big fuck off corporation would never do anything illegal ever

dapper gyro
#

The other issue is that if you refuse their term, you are therefore not allowed to use their service.

crystal forum
#

the worst i've seen is that they will share data to third party companies and so they aren't responsible for what the "trusted third parties" will do with the data

#

but laws dont mean anything if they arent enforced

wintry scarab
storm jungle
#

Pretty much. Theres a reason people despise lawyers lol

#

Twisting words is always the best way to sometimes get people into a loop

wintry scarab
#

Eveyone hates lawyers... Besides the people making the law. Im telling you, THIS PSYOP IS WORKING ON ME!

crystal forum
#

lawyers pretending they fight for the working class while making 100k a year as entry level and still being shit at their job

storm jungle
#

There is good lawyers out there

#

the problem is they are like the 5%

#

lol

crystal forum
#

saul goodman

storm jungle
#

I get why they do it but working for corpos/bad people always makes you more money

#

it is what it is

languid meadow
#

See I would say "kill the bastards" but killing them leads to worse things

crystal forum
#

bankers, lawyers, all the same

languid meadow
#

I'm oppressed

winged jacinth
storm jungle
#

YEP

#

watch Daredevil if you wanna completely lose faith in the American justice system

#

"Oh the witness obviously got killed and doesnt show up? Yeah sorry the accused is getting off scot free."

winged jacinth
#

I don't need to one of my cousins got a law degree

storm jungle
#

Kevin Spacey ahh

celest dome
#

Just need to watch the American news 🍿

sacred ginkgo
winged jacinth
#

He's a judge now just to make some money

storm jungle
wintry scarab
#

Alright, im off to eat my neighbour.

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

They do that in the latest season too

storm jungle
#

one of the people the cops were hoping take the fall wins the case thanks to Matt

#

and what do they do?

#

literally murder him in the street the next night

#

lol

winged jacinth
storm jungle
#

^

#

REAL

crystal forum
#

cops being comedically bad their job, so unrealistic

storm jungle
#

is the entire thing of how you win a courtcase even if you are the worst human being imaginable simply if your lawyer is really good and just makes good points/loopholes for you to get off scot free or just get a slap on the wrist penalties?

#

also lots of money I guess obviously lol

crystal forum
#

just pay off the judge

winged jacinth
#

It depends

storm jungle
#

Yeah that too i guess

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

or make your way to the supreme court and get the laws rewritten because you bought a frat boy a mansion

winged jacinth
#

The real fast talking bullshit mostly works in big cases where you can play off preexisting opinions and the judge is also probably unavoidably pre-biased

storm jungle
#

Yeah sounds about right

#

such fucking nonsense man

winged jacinth
#

The less notable a case the more the law is real

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

make juice out of lawyer blood

winged jacinth
#

Sometimes even in a big case you get a no-bullshit judge who forces everyone to wear their law pants

violet nexus
crystal forum
#

arbites

sacred ginkgo
storm jungle
crystal forum
winged jacinth
#

Your lawyer is also the judge, and the jury

crystal forum
violet nexus
winged jacinth
#

I guess more accurately the imperium has no defense lawyers

crystal forum
#

some arbites are more focused on law

winged jacinth
#

Lots of prosecutors

violet nexus
#

true

cinder pivot
sacred ginkgo
#

You just have to have a good excuse for whoever you’re killing

winged jacinth
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In all seriousness yeah theres probably a special lawyer priesthood that spends their lives studying the lex, its considered a holy text

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Probably within the arbites?

crystal forum
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somebody's got to defend the hive nobles accusing eachother of bullshit

winged jacinth
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We need more arbites lore about when they're not out busting heads

crystal forum
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it wasn't for me

cinder pivot
crystal forum
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for some reason femboys enjoy having clothes bought for them

static wren
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I mean...free clothes

winged jacinth
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Because its not their money

celest dome
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Doesn't everyone like getting stuff bought for them

winged jacinth
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Ballin

crystal forum
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let me rephrase

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they enjoy having somebody choose clothes for them

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im not paying shit lol

median star
queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
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I mean

crystal forum
celest dome
queen laurel
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I'm going to take that as an unfortunate yes

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
queen laurel
median star
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be pretty cool to have a jdam

sacred ginkgo
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Just put the inconspicuous jdam in the background of your webcam

languid meadow
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if you dont have a jdam for aura farming purposes are you really living

crystal forum
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the hellfire missile is my coat hanger

celest dome
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If I got a weapon, I wouldn't even know what to do with it, like make it safe and hang it around I guss

median star
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ted kaczynski couldve gone places it he has a whole jdam

median star
celest dome
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I don't need a weapon

sacred ginkgo
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Are you sure

celest dome
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Yes

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I don't live in a dangerous country

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I don't hunt

median star
celest dome
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I don't need to protect myself

crystal forum
celest dome
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Yes