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makes sense that mars was the jewel of human tech since it's the first colonized planet
We do know there were allied AI on Mars
so it had to be constantly kept in check with terraforming equipment
But they mostly died out for some reason
*went to the catacombs
Also the war probably didn't last long.
They probably detonated several fucking bombs that turned it from green
The war of the men of iron goes on in it/hj
To back to it's original state
Which means that if Mars had a earth-like atmosphere when terraformed
Is there such a thing like a techmarine neophyte or something along those lines? Do some battlebrothers wear a techmarine right pouldren, for example, in the ultramarines before they have fully become a techmarine? This questions stems from me seeing a ultramarine battlebrother with a mechanicus icon on his right shoulder.
Not really, Techmarines are sent to mars for training
Does mars in modern 40k have its thin atmosphere?
No, since they get sent to Mars or the nearest forgeworld for training
It’s a much thicker atmosphere
Due to pollution
lmfao
But yes
Do other FW train Techmarines ?
Yes
I assume it was thicker due to being terraformed
Never heard that
Ryza and Metalica do
i can imagine that the remaining sane men of iron went to the deepest parts of the catacombs and made themselves a man cave to chill for millenia
We dunno about others
Since well, long term terraforming would want the planet to have
An atmosphere similar to Earth's
“Man why the fuck is there a daemon outside of my door”
So it's probably thicker due to the terraforming
I mean if it was green it had a thicker atmosphere but over the centuries lost it again to go back to being a shithole then it's back to being thick from SMOG
also i like to imagine the catacombs were once just a big warehouse
THEN the pollution
Pollution solved that problem
Who needs an ozone layer
When you got poisonous smog
it's wild that it still has a "breathable" atmosphere
I mean it still kills any tech priest that still has bits of flesh
So

No it doesn’t
scientifically i think the lack of a strong magnetosphere would strip away any dense atmosphere after a while
Normal humans can breath on Mars
SeriouslyM
Thought it killed regular people
it's cheaper to have a marginally breathable atmosphere than make millions of breathing units i guess
Him walking on it without coughing and shit was what was impressive
Ah
Along with him performing a miracle
they must still be generating oxygen somewhat for the atmosphere to be breathable
They are yeah
There’s oxygen generation/life support in pretty much all major forge cities and complexes
All mechanicus vehicles have onboard life support as well
Which is a cool thing
probably the remains of ancient terraforming tech
So it's more like
living in China
Got it
Seriously thouigh
so does the land raider
Curse of north Chinese coal pollution
that was america once, steel industry and coal do that
true, and also london
yeah
remember it never truly goes away, only gets moved off to where people dont care about
the industry
It’s South east Asia’s turn

And South Asia
Ig
It’s still not great though in like east Asia
so much effort to produce dog shit quality steel
You dare insult the glorious steel industry of zhong guo 
steel is one of those things that people dont think about enough
just 150 years ago they coudn't even dream of having the control over impurities we have today
It’s crazy how humans as a species almost ran out of usable iron
Before we figured out to properly forge iron
before the discovery of smelting ore, they had to use native iron
which came from asteroids
there's an ancient egyptian dagger i think that was found to be made of asteroid iron
I do wonder what would have happened
If humanity ran out of usable iron before we figured it out
I guess melt down the crappy pig iron and try again
But still
💀
as in reuse farming equipment
shovel with a broken handle can be reforged into a spade
that's why it was a big thing to take an army's weapons after winning a war against them
people often wonder what they would do if they were sent back in time with modern technology and the joke is usually that we can't explain to a roman how a phone works
but could you explain how to forge steel?
Fuck no lol
i could probably do gunpowder but idk where to get potassium nitrate in roman times
Bone steel maybe, but I'd have to test it out
My metallurgy knowledge caps out at bronze
lol
And some other obscure shit because it’s cool for computing
Honestly if you have 1 month to learn stuff up, before being sent to the Roman times, the best thing you could do is actually pigments.
bronze is fun since it relatively simple
the mining of copper and tin isn't that complicated
as in colors?
Yes
romans already knew of that
is it not because they didn't have access to those
They had the ability to make them
But didn’t know the process
All the stuff was around
Just not the knowledge in that instance
Another thing is flat glass panels, just need quicksilver (which they had), and sifted sand
Is it not possible without Mercury?
I suppose it it, but it's how it used to be done
I c
Don't think current glass panels are made using it still
Is it like a dish or just a drink ?
It’s a dish but almost all the soy milk sold in the US is sweetened
Or it isn’t the right kind
If it’s unsweetened lol
I must simply make my own soy milk
It’s the only way
i think i could try to teach romans how to smelt iron ore if i could produce coke out of whatever they have
they didn't understand that you need to strip the oxygen away from the ore
I mean they could make coke I think
Tbf that took a lot of different people a while to figure out
Independently
Isn't Coke fairly recent ?
coke is first thought of during the renaissance
and only really put into practice during the early industrial revolution
The creation yeah, the idea no
It looks like this, which isn’t very tasty looking but it tastes good(to me)
Is it like a Milk soup ?
It’s boiled soy milk with a tiny bit of vinegar + a good bit of salt or soy sauce
i think it's more that it took a lot of time for the entirety of science to catch up to the idea of chemistry
And then you stick a Chinese donut into it
Because tradition
I don’t actually know why one goes in it
That’s true
Chemistry is kind of insane
lol
like even if we were to explain the processes behind this stuff, romans would still not know wtf a molecule is
and sure maybe they know how to make steel or flat windows now but they're no closer to advancing themselves
maybe roman times is just a bad era to do this
i think renaissance would be a good period since that's when science is starting to be taken seriously as a method
Go to one of the Dynastic era’s of China or Egypt right before it implodes/j
that's the thing that wouldn't be very good i think. back then science was treated like a silly passtime by royalty and stuff
Honestly I think the biggest thing you could learn and introduce to the Roman is more modern ship wrighting
lots of people figuring stuff out on their own but not really advancing science as a collective
that would probably help them a lot lol
the thing i try to remember is that even if i learned what pythagoras figured out thousands of years ago, he was still most definitely way smarter than me
Ship whriting, crop rotation, not sure what else, if you really want to be useful
maybe a little class in economics 101 wouldn't hurt

Chances are they’d figure that out anyways. They were big on copying people 
We're speaking in the hypotetical case of time travel
i should also specify roman republic era
if they knew how to make proper ships then maybe the romans would have lasted a lot longer
the amount of trading they could do
Give the Roman the techniques to build Caravelles and I'm pretty sure they've have gone to the America.
They were different
real question is how would they have interacted with north american natives
without the extreme tech differences that europeans had
the same way they did the Gauls and Britanics
Pretty much the same way they did with most "barbarian" they met
they might have respected eachother honestly
invade and enslave in the name of "civilizing" them
lmao Romans respected no one save maybe the Greeks and Egyptians
they respected those they conquered i think
nope
a roman was a roman
and no roman was equal
Some were lucky to get the chance to become Citizens, but it's a minority
yup
that's for rome itself. if you left the capital those differences werent as big
The disparities were bigger
rome was a nation that saw itself as the chosen of the gods
all those they ensalved should thank them
was their view
Kind of Colonisation
well in any case im sure romans would have had a very hard time invading peak north america
Like Canada ?
Hannibal on the other hand?
MOUND BUILDERS WHOOOOO
Actually I think the mound builders didn’t exist yet
there was a lot of native americans in north america before europeans arrived
we know very little about pre columbian Americas sadly
and from what we know they had large federations of tribes
a mix of mostly oral history and the many wars and plagues the Europeans brought destroyed most of that history
europeans had the advantage of trade on their side since steel tools and guns weren't super rare to them
idk what romans would do really
I don't think the North American were much further than the North European were
wdym
As in the Celts or Goth being on similar levels of tech, and lower population numbers
The Mayan were extremely advanced, they just didn't have steel.
americas didn't have iron or horses which is very huge
Like South American against Celts/Goth... that's a tough match up
that's what i'm saying
military wise it would be a lot harder to just flat out invade
even europeans couldn't really do that before they settled in fully
like conquistadors had to pit the aztecs against eachother to bring them down
Well the Roman did that in each of their campaigns
Musket armed Spanish had a lot of trouble against the Americans, I don't think the Celts would have fared well
Honestly I think the difference between the Contistator and the Romans is that the Romans would probably start sending way more mens
a full legion would be pretty strong against even peak aztecs im sure
And the Legion would have engineering corps that the Contistador did not have
plus if romans got access to corn
a crop which is as important to south america as wheat is to europe
Shit they get Tomato way to early, they'll be nerfed into Italians and get wrecked
True
plus cavalry vs only foot
And mass cavalry compared to small groups
it would really be funny to imagine aztecs at their peak, thinking themselves unstoppable then all of a sudden a legion shows up
Did the Republican Rome still have augures ?
yes
at least they should since iirc Augures went away with the rise of Christianity no?
Make sense
he had 500 men and many thousands of native rebels
easily in the 10s of thousands
the Aztec empire was made up of many vassalized tribes kept in check by mass human sacrifices
so when Cortes came along he found a land full of dissent and ripe for overthrowing
is that egg drop soup???
i HATE egg drop soup
lol
The Romans were also fans of taking local troops and putting them against the bigger target in the region
honestly if Rome had reached the new world they would have done like Cortes did, would make their job far easier
ofc Cortes only really used the natives as he was a criminal with no support from Spain
and his supplies would run out well before he managed to take down the Aztec empire without the local support
LOL, it looks really bad but it tastes good I promise
It’s like a really rich salty dish
Im slanning it
Looks a bit like congee and now I'm craving congee
hey I know this is dumb but why cant khorne or slaanesh leave the warp and fight
like whats stopping nurgle from just popping in and doing whatever
Them leaving the warp is like a daemon leaving the warp, except way bigger
A greater daemon leaving the warp already requires reality to be destabilized and further destabilizes it
An entire proper chaos god leaving the warp would likely just destroy the galaxy
And would take a fuck ton of sacrifice and instability to do in the first place
Plus afaik the chaos gods are basically incomprehensible to the average mortal. Really the only reason they'd ever want to leave the warp is so that they could gain some followers, but you can't really do that if your would be worshipers just instantly die from your presence lol
Yeah
I wonder why AOS had a tighter lock on leaks than 40k
smaller interest. There's people looking everywhere for 40k leaks every day
also im still not entirely convinced that 40k leaks aren't intentional
A former marketing member for them have said its not true, since every leak they call an emergency all hands meeting on how best to handle it and it’s always a rushed panic, so unlikely they’re doing it on purpose.
it's also a shit tactic 
you can generate much more hype/marketing value with the directed reveals than a random drop to the internet, which in turn will lessen the impact of the planned reveals
i dont trust their word
like a recent example: the reveal of the C'Tan Shard was so shit, it should've been a major reveal but they had to scramble a short article and some b-roll footage for a model that isn't coming out in more than a year
and spoil the whole necron tomb world kill team campaign while at it
now they're desperately trying to generate hype for the middle release by covering it in mystery like ooo what could it be and I promise you it will be quite lackluster compared to the final C'Tan shard piece
it will be fire
Could be but unlikely
Their marketing reveals are in the Rumour engines, it's fully controlled
Leaks aren't controlled
So they're not great ways to do it
No way the leaks are deliberate lol
okay question
is the darktide symbol
like. grendyls insignia?
is it the symbol of tertium? of atoma?
the symbol for brahms?
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No
The human race is no longer worth saving
what if these big buff war criminals were huge women with humongous homononnongas I mean massive ol bitties and for no reason they just cared about some random nobody lameass bozo
lamest thing I ever saw
you are a few centuries late to that conclusion
Yeah but in the last few centuries we made things like pre prepared garlic bread
We had some minor redeeming factor
This video on the internet seals the fate of our entire race
Aren’t they a god of destruction or something
yup
That just looks like a cat because they can
he is from the 6th universe
The last shot of that gif could be an actual cat
his twin brother is also a cat
You expect this to explain anything whatsoever
tldr destroyer gods are picked from the most powerful fighters in the universe and trained by an angel that then becomes their servant
there are 13 universes in total and each one is different though the ones that add up to 13 are "twins" with similar timelines and lifeforms
so Beerus likely is from a cat like alien race
but the important thing is he will literally destroy a planet because he thought the food was too greasy or the pillows not comfy enough
weak lore
Yea the unsaid hypocrisy is surprising.
Primarch as men: “OMFG FACIST WAR CRIMINALS.”
Primarch as women: “I CAN FIX HER.”
…
Also applies to…well, 99% of anime characters who are morally horrible characters really.
its dragon ball what do you expect
The duality of writers
How does X happen?
Oh because of xyz reasons that I decided upon after research and a bunch of concept work
Because I thought it was cool
yup
and hell the ultimate god of dragon ball is a literal child
this mutated football head can unmake a universe just by saying "go away"
“How the hell are we going to raise the stakes this time they’ve killed god for 3 consecutive seasons”
“Just make it god god but also a child trust”
yup
wild thing to say in the 40k lore chat
and I stand by it
Sylvaneth deer people rise up
exodites seem weird
also they dont seem like all that...under threat compared to everyone else
and I mean, dinosaurs are cool but like
its not exactly the pinnacle of 40k technology
I feel someone should have made the exodites extinct by now 
Hard to do so when other factions have other better things to do and when the literal planet they are inhabiting is also hostile to the said invaders
yeah like their planets are hostile
sure
but like, it aint so bad compared to what you have to do to invade other faction planets tbh
Yes but again they are also eldar that means you also have to contend with eldar
maiden words are still precious words for the pointy ears so you know
Read their lexicanum page.
i did
They are constantly under threat of invasion whenever someone stumbles/finds their Maiden Worlds.
do they lose a lot
They got protection of Crafworld Eldar. So not really doable.
also that reminds me, if the craftworld like the exodites why dont they just unite and live with em, they get to live on planets again
Its extremely risky to stay on a stationary planet as a populace as big as Craftworld eldar.
Their lifestyles also do not match.
its like asking why dont all muslim nations unite
(and I say this as one lol)
^
exodite completely live differently because of the way the escape is different compared to the craftworlders
It's just like a case of real life where Once Upon a time this group of people were one but they split and depending on their environment culture forming and stuff they become different people
it seems like craftworlders are taking the raw end of the deal here
which you know fair enough, given that they get along with exodites
They get to live on a utopia ship that gives them anything they want and avoid conflict unless its necessary, craftworld eldar dont really have the "raw end".
they live a nomadic post-scarcity lifestyle
And if you're talking about them fighting wars and stuff they have the most equipment because they went with the craft world
so naturally they are way better suited to fighting
^
eldar look pretty desperate to me , wraith stuff is last resort and considering how often they need to use wraith constructs , last resort is pretty befitting
I mean yeah they are a dying race, thats the point
(even if they will never die becaues they are a tabletop faction lol)
that's the point 
thats why i said exodites should probably loan them some dinos 
I mean why
dinosaurs won't fix their broken empire
they dont need them lol
dont the dinos come with laser guns
and again they have literal giant robots and literal tanks
Do you have like
any idea how gigantic the craftworld eldar arsenal is

well, not gigantic enough is my point, considering they need to use their last resort stuff all the time
Yes but those have to be mounted now do they because they don't just evolve with fucking guns they're not tyranids
No?

we just discussed this with the wraiths
Wraiths arent the only things they use tho
true, but they use em so often it does look like they need help
hence , help
send half the exodite garrison to them too
that's just one craft world
most of the time they have alot of troops
They literally got standing warhosts of warriors and vehicles
Not as much as other factions but enough
so what you're telling me is, the eldar dont need assistance
of any kind
they are doing just swell with their armies
Why do you think they are still in the Galaxy
They might be a dying race sure but like this is a dying race of an empire that literally once held the Galaxy like a bitch
they can handle themselves pretty well
i dunno, eldar seem pretty strong, they also seem on the verge of extinction all the time
Welcome to the warhammer paradox.
Same thing apply to humanity
You finally noticed the tabletop syndrome welcome took you long enough
also, how weak strong are the exodites compared to like other factions, in general terms of army strength
Necrons are on the verge of always waking up their dynasties but dont.
Tyranids are on the verge of always arriving full-force but dont.
Orks are on the verge of completely combining their forces but dont.
Eldar are on the verge of extinction but dont.
This is the warhammer norm lol
they arent suppose to wage wars
so you take a guess 
damn
I thought they were living great lives because they can actually fight off invaders
like , the strong ones
They sometimes can but they need assistance of craftworlds and other allies.
They literally are the amish. Again.

also does the casual eldar craftworld use the webway itself , like as a ship
Webways are entrances/portals, they arent ships.
yeah but here's the thing there is a faction that do their sctick but because of bullshit can actually make it work
ork snakebites and Beastsnaggas which just can happen to grow their dinosaurs for free so
In extremely rare circumstances if theres a webway gate big enough for it, but its almost always never, Craftworlds are planet-ships essentially, they usually go in sublight speeds through empty/wilderness-space.
its one of the reasons why they tend to avoid danger or be careful in areas they pass through in the void
ah they need the gate to big enough, because itd make sense for them to just park their craftworld in the webway itself
like you know, instead of floating around the eye of terror or wherever
The webway is dangerous too so no.
thats just Ulthwe
yeah that one
theres thousands of Craftworlds across the galaxy
all do their own shit and traverse carefully however it fits them
yeah but orks have everything
you are generalizing a lot over what 1 specific craftworld does
they have every vehicle ever created
yeah but here's the thing spawn themselves
well
just by existing more of them can be made
eldar don't have the option
orks just go to planet, more orks spawn
the end
eldar are just tragically doomed not even in the normal 40k sense, like that time they were about to get free of slaanesh and the deathwatch are just like " no lol"
I mean yeah again thats the point.
But like, it doesnt really matter
Eldar arent gonna go anywhere lol
👆
^
this is the tabletop setting paradox
Trust me if it really gets bad to the point it will just make up some bad ******** like
Yeah its just empty in-universe doomer lore
The elder gods have regained their power suddenly
indeed
and now they are back in like relative good strength
i dont disagree
Basically dont think so hard about it, it doesnt matter.
crons seem to have a bright future
Well, maybe
apart from just having it really bad in the past
lol
They have it bad rn too
they infight, they argue, they lose tombworlds to lesser races, etc
not everything is a W for them either
and remember they are incapable of remaking everything a permanent loss is a permanent loss to them
like even a necron warrior is irreplaceable
I like the crons because whenever they show up , they seem like they are having a good time, like the cron leader tends to have a generally bond villain evilness where he holds all the cards till the plot gets along or whatever
Of course the writers are just gonna make more because the Galaxy can fit everything apparently but like the background lore is that they cannot regain anything
the numbers infamously dont make sense yes
read Twice Dead King
it can be pretty miserable
trazyn I guess too
there are certainly exceptions
also isnt there a craftworld that survives living in the eye of terror
like the one where maugen ra is from
I think
the new imperial knight rules are pretty nice
a custom quest or a random quest to get extra command points
alot of command points becasue the army assumes your gonan spam every command under the sun for your knights
also this terminator resistance game is incredibly underrated
yeah
its really good
it doesnt have good critical reviews but its got amazing user reviews, because the story is really good and its got john connor and kyle reese and stuff
surprising
and you can play as a terminator in the future war too
also im so happy theres no arnie cameo
and there are in fact, future weapons you get a glimpse of in t2
like plasma weapons
and the dystopia is awesome tbh
like im a sucker for good urban post apocalypse, and you're spending good chunk of this game in those with t 800s hunting you
but then, I also liked salvation, no one seemed to like that movie except me 
i thought salvation was pretty alright if you watch it before the first 2 like i did
apparently literal child soldier proto dreadnaughts existed during great crusade
the walmart 1 dollar dvd bin
i cant imagine watching 1 and 2 after salvation
do you just go like " Oh is this what this franchise is about"
" and not the apocalyptic action scenes?"
also funny
Do you think Astartes-to-Astartes fight look like that Kryptonian fight scene from Man of Steel thorugh normal human eyes?
no
Nothing so epic I dont think
I think they just bash into each other like nfl players
and theres usually some weapon swinging involved
They need to be an Inquisition Ordo imo
why
bou do i have news for you

fall of cadia
you get to bring child soldier militas back in the original release
we need it back
technology is truly ruining the world, vat grown adult infantry smh, what happened to just using mass child soldiers
no
marine vs marine is like 2 nfl players armed with glowing sticks, or like sumo wrestlers, but they are fully standing up
also frat boys fighting to impress girls
Two sigma males trying to impress their beta male friend.....
How about Custodes vs Harlequin?
thats probably more akin to a dance, it probably would be if the harlequins werent exceptionally agile
also I got no idea how thats gonna go
probably like a grasshopper fighting a fly or something
or like a weed addict fighting a cocaine addict
NO!
Well how else are they supposed to recruit new members?
Not just that, these two are fighting for his love......
same thing, really
I'm sure there's a few of those weird Alpha male groups that would fit the bill.
i think you misunderstand my motives
Seems likely. I often have no idea what people are trying to do.
tau battlesuit vs battlesuit would be cool
well, i guess its basically armored core 6
it's usually one of two camps with me
and it often involves being gay
Really, I had no idea
there are two wolves inside me
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So I know the guard have worked with Tau before, and space marines have worked with necrons. Have space marines and Tau ever worked together?
Never and not really no
Even the time Blood Angels teamed up with Crons was a very specific circumstance, no one in 40k is really made to team up with each other.
They walked away peacefully because both of them were depleted of everything to keep fighting.
There's a book where the deathwatch and tau teamed up against the nids
it was a short lived, dynamic and explosive partnership
Both BA and Necrons were barely survived.
its kinda weird they designed deathwatch to not have an overall chapter master type leader
like , seems like a missed opportunity to sell a cool mini
even the grey knights have draigo kinda
as much as I dont mind it getting blown up
I wish abaddon actually managed to you know fight them into defeat
It doesnt really make sense for their organisation
they are spec ops groups made to be stretched across the galaxy
Theres literally nothing else he could do
the pylons on Cadia were closing the Eye lol
the Fortress was also useless and Chaos was basically winning the planet anyway
you know as well as I do they can make a dw chapter master work to sell a cool mini , if they wanted to 
Deathwatch Guilliman model 
deathwatch are awesome and if you shit on them i will find you
deathwatch are lame and if you dont shit on them i will find you
Deathwatch have a silly name
The duality of man
they some kinda Watch
i like the deathwatch more than sisters and grey knights tbh
Mfw the space marines are watching death
Now hold on
Who watches the death watches?
Why are my Sisters of Battle catching strays when everyones shitting on Deathwatch
who up deathing their watches
Weird how they haven't made a deathwatch focused game yet afaik
SM2
LOL
You got your time in 9th edition
now is the time of the ork
(according to leaks anyway for next edition)
look I love the grey knights, mostly because of all the psyker compatible sick gear and permanent terminator armor, but they seem like the least human space marines ever, what with having runes inscribes onto their bones, having no memories of past lives and taking an anti daemon name and of course purging whomever says the c word
bruh
We need more
no shit
That was only the prologue tho, I'm talking an entire ass campaign centered around them
They literally just got a lot of good things a few editions ago 
ass campaign?
yeah thats why i dont like them, they are literally just arnie terminators with dope gear
Yea, that's what they call it when they gotta fight the forces of nurgle
lieutenant buttcheek
If next edition all Sisters get is another solo HQ model I'm going to cry
deathwatch on the other hand, are fun
also deathwatch dont have to deal with all the excessive warp fuckery like having one of them walking the warp for centuries scaring poor daemons from their homes, they instead get to do cool shit like make shotgun shells that hurt orks more
Primaris sister and it's literally just a femstodes in sororitas power armor

she gets a combi heavy bolter so it's ok
Lmfao
DeathWatch with their decentralized HQ, very good to avoid security compromise without killing everyone around.
We already got our range refresh which brought us up to the new scale, we just didn't cry about it like Space Marines did
also that one deathwatch prison is cool
where they have some eldritch cthulu type xenos or some such
I like xenophase blades, give me more
bros literally gotta steal alien technology from how much their own tech sucks
crazy 💀
green sword for when the power sword doesn't cut concrete fast enough
Introduce Xenophase blades, have them act at Green Power Sword 
necrons be like " is that woman in the tight bodysuit using that toy sword I gave my son for his birthday???"
the butter knife
The recent sm2 update trailer reminded me of their existence and I have since decided that the homebrew I'm working on will have some in their arsenal since they like to use repurposed xeno tech for their weapons
SM2 would have been cooler if it was just death watch
Would fit the small squad thing well too
indeed
tbh Space Marines can deploy small kill-teams as well
could have been between 1 and 2
Deathwatch is just cooler however ia gree
Aren’t ultramarines all about big numbers and full deployments though?
also you get squad of veterans from different chapters with mixed personalities working together, thats cool
Facts
Hit em with your whole back
Being sent to the deathwatch as a blood angel or one of their successors has gotta fucking suck tho
that's iron hands
Also the characters in Multiplayer didn't need to be established characters in the campaign
Just make them faceless blorbos, making me some B team Ultramarine chump isn't what I'm here for
I didn’t like space marine combat. Felt so weak
you're weak
Would've been nice if they included chapter specific lines for MP but oh well
Any Chapter can just deploy a squad/killteam for a specific reason
the flesh is weak.
Its piss as fuck.
And those stupid flying mini bosses are the WORST
BUT DEEDS ENDURE RAAAAAAH
We have so little ammo and they take all of it and more to bring em down
Didn't enjoy the combat in SM2 at all tbh, just felt so ass. Like let me shoot 20 bolter rounds into this termagaunt to kill it, okay now there's only 400 more termagaunts on my screen. Thank goodness I only have 30 bullets left.
do primarchs get haircuts from a servitor
the one enemy calgar cant defeat
Brother captain, that chapter serf done chopped by shit up bad!
his primarchs perfect blonde hair
those power fists wont help him in this case
well
I wonder if abaddon gets his haircut from a servitor too
or does he just get like a slaaneshi daemonette to do it
he probably literally gets fulgrim to do it
he's bald
it's glued on
bald
Abaddon's in crippling debt because he lost 12 fucking black crusades and now the chaos gods are gonna repossess his house
Would they need special blades to cut their hair as hair is skin and primarch skin is TOUGH
well maybe the hair is like normal hair
Dorn needs an angle grinder
they're not superman
that's how he shaves
a servitor can probably do it
dorn uses his chainsword to shave anyone in his legion who grows their hair out
The perfect haircut with the best defensive stats
that's why black templars have bowl cuts
The mullet
because they're all ugly and dumb
erm fulgrim?
didnt fulgrim have to like
conquer everything
whereas guilliman started off as a noble
or fulgrim didnt, i forgot what fulgrim did on his world
He fucked
And no im not joking he had wives lol
oh yeah chemos
well sanguinius is probably there too, but i meant guilliman probably got the most training in like , table manners and things
seriously though who decided to give them historical monk hair
worst decision ever
i know some of the models do
Best decision ever
Yeah some of the neophyte ones
Really shows off they're a bunch of dorks
i do like helbrechts design though, he looks exactly how id like the boss of the black templars to look
Ik its supposed to be a medieval monk cut but I don't think anybody could make that work 😭
Yea they're supposed to look like dumb losers, because they are
but we havent even gotten to how the alpha legion are probably styling experts with all the disguising tricks
We shitting on the BTs now?
and omegon can probably apply makeup better than most wealthy imperium ladies
can we talk about how BL players tried to create an outrage out of the recent rulebook thing
LMAO
but non BL players didn't give a shit
The "treat mutants, navigators" etc badly
like
literally who cares?
your Chapter are murderous monsters bruh

it's so funny how it changes literally nothing
"nooooo my black templars treat navigators well!!
"
Really takes the wind out of the sails in Helsreach when you remember Grimaldus is probably rocking this look under the helmet
Just make em bald
They're a chaos legion idk what people expect lmfao
Assuming that's what you meant by BL
oh i meant BT
It's actually an initialism
It's only an acronym if you say it like a word
Like NASA
5$ bounty for larmoth's tabletop collection
That doesn't seem like a lot
10$ bounty
So a BLT sandwish is an initialism cause you technically just spell the letters
How much of them are unpainted
Yep

i assume most
like any good collection
Yea most are unpainted, I really love building models and really dislike painting
All my joy is in building and kitbashing, painting is ehhhh
20$
I would pay people to paint them for me
sassing will only increase the bounty
@rose thorn speaking of AOS leaks there just were some lmao
LETS GOOO, what are they?
A poster who was 90% correct on the Skaven contents of the Skaventide box has posted the following about an Ogor refresh:
- 3 unique heroes
- Unique Tyrant
- Unique Butcher (War Machine)
- Unique Maneater (Maneaters Warmaster)
- Hunters
- Mournfangs
- Butchers
- Tyrant
- Ogor gluttons
- Ironguts
- "and more fatty things"
They've also noted some losses for the current range:
- Icebrow hunter
- Frost sabres
- Firebelly
- Icefall yhetees
- Leadbelchers
- Great mawpot
- Tyrant (2019)
I've got a friend who's a freak that loves painting, going to get him to do some for me but he's got a long waiting list.
Wait losing Leadbelcher ?
Ogors did get a new terrain recently actually, so makes sense maw pot is gone. Bit bummed on the tryant, I expected it to get delegated to a spear head or something
Yeha but the new tyrant is still a nice kit if not monopose to hell
💀
Leadbelcher and Firebelly not being replaced but taken out is strange
Probably gonna be me renamed and become a new unit
Isn’t fire belly finecast?
Fire belly is fine cast yeah
I’d assume they’re being renamed
Or GW is removing them for now and replacing them later
Like they sometimes do
I doubt the asthetic is are changing much, after release/reveal unless it’s like night and day it’s probably gonna still look good to have 1 or 2 of the old kits
Without making your army looked aged as fuck
I quite liked the Leadbelcher, both as concept and mini
They might be dropping the pirate theme it seems
Leadbelchers probably removed and then reintroduced with Warcry or something
Or atleast a reinterpretation of them
Leadbelcher Warcry would be somewhat surprising tbh
They weren't really that piraty though ?
Pretty sure they were supposed to be pirates with eye patches and shoulder grots and using like boat cannons lol
Idk the lore though
Ah fair
Real
Hey progressive authoritarianism is a thing
"I thought we would be killing the xenos-"
"FUCK THE ALIEN NOW"
I really hope lead belchers are replaced with something I love them so much
you're really in your stellaris arc lately
I haven’t played that much ironically
I’m trying to write my GSC, do they typically see the patriarch as merely some sort of divine avatar or do they typically see them as the Emperor?
Or do they see the hive fleet/hive mind as the Emperor
When it is based on the imperial creed that is
I’m trying to write one that can survive as a sanctioned cult on a shrine world
Without attracting undue suspicion
Divine avatar often
Like a saint
In AOS they could also add the third option of being made for them
They have now advanced in society where they can iron work cannons you see
Though of course it's easier to just take them from the humies
that sounds like a wild stellaris empire
it isn't if you want more unity and pop growth
authoritarian is my fav trait
i love having massive borders
Thank you youtube. Very cool.
google knows what you want before you even know it
Average warhammer attire
Good store btw it provides size translations
which is funny since i have bought clothes on femboy fatale before and never got ads
Probably the third best femboy store
Its just funny. I live in the UK and most of this shit is blocked for me because i aint giving them no ID. Yet youtube advertisers can just show me whatever the fuck they want. I remember seeing this one ad for ai that was literally just softcore porn.
what are the other ones
I mean even if you dont they still just get your ID
basically every single site on the internet takes it to some degree lol
To some degree. This UK shit is just giving them even more. At least before you had the legal right to opt out. Now its mandatory.
Yeah at this point internet privacy is a myth
Every single place your information is going to get taken from you whether you like it or not
But to my understanding, you have the right to opt out of data collection. They cannot legally take data until you agree. But now the government is enforcing you to provide them data or essentially be denied access to the internet.
legally they shouldn't be allowed to keep the ID data but who tf knows if companies take that rule seriously
companies break laws all the time
I worked the hell out of my chest, I will show it.
I ahve a list somewhere
I can just slowly feel all of this shit slowly turning me into an extremist. Whatever psyop is going on, its working on me.
join the dark side
Even if you dont agree they 100% still take it
and by dark i mean black ⬛
but its mostly for like inconsequential shit
eat your neighbors eat your neighbors eat your neighbors
where
Let me find it
Im pretty sure this is false. Very few places to my knowledge, in the world have this as a law. pretty sure in England, they can keep all of it.
Its working. I shall feast.
read the contract
crazy i know
^
They put a lot of sussy shit in there because people never read it due to the complete amount of text
oldest trick in the book lol
im sure big fuck off corporation would never do anything illegal ever
The other issue is that if you refuse their term, you are therefore not allowed to use their service.
the worst i've seen is that they will share data to third party companies and so they aren't responsible for what the "trusted third parties" will do with the data
but laws dont mean anything if they arent enforced
A bit off topic, but its very fun how lawyer talk is still legal. Just take the simplest concepts and phrase them in ways that only a nasa scientist can comprehend. Make it bible length while youre at it.
Pretty much. Theres a reason people despise lawyers lol
Twisting words is always the best way to sometimes get people into a loop
Eveyone hates lawyers... Besides the people making the law. Im telling you, THIS PSYOP IS WORKING ON ME!
lawyers pretending they fight for the working class while making 100k a year as entry level and still being shit at their job
saul goodman
I get why they do it but working for corpos/bad people always makes you more money
it is what it is
See I would say "kill the bastards" but killing them leads to worse things
bankers, lawyers, all the same
I'm oppressed
They all work as public defenders and barely make rent
YEP
watch Daredevil if you wanna completely lose faith in the American justice system
"Oh the witness obviously got killed and doesnt show up? Yeah sorry the accused is getting off scot free."
I don't need to one of my cousins got a law degree
Kevin Spacey ahh
Just need to watch the American news 🍿
Daredevil would be great satire if it wasn’t actively happening
He's a judge now just to make some money
People saying with the latest Daredevil season of "How can Kingpi na multiple time convicted felon and murderer attain a government position like becoming the mayor of New York? That is unrealistic!"
Cue 2025 💀
Alright, im off to eat my neighbour.
the cops did the classic mistake of punching the perpetrator into a coma so now the murderer is acquitted
They do that in the latest season too
2016...
one of the people the cops were hoping take the fall wins the case thanks to Matt
and what do they do?
literally murder him in the street the next night
lol
Kingpin on the news "Im not evil im just villain shaped"
cops being comedically bad their job, so unrealistic
Okay so I need to know this
is the entire thing of how you win a courtcase even if you are the worst human being imaginable simply if your lawyer is really good and just makes good points/loopholes for you to get off scot free or just get a slap on the wrist penalties?
also lots of money I guess obviously lol
just pay off the judge
It depends
Yeah that too i guess
Already a grim answer 
or make your way to the supreme court and get the laws rewritten because you bought a frat boy a mansion
The real fast talking bullshit mostly works in big cases where you can play off preexisting opinions and the judge is also probably unavoidably pre-biased
The less notable a case the more the law is real

make juice out of lawyer blood
Sometimes even in a big case you get a no-bullshit judge who forces everyone to wear their law pants
Do lawyers exist in the Imperium
arbites
This sounds like the exact opposite of how it should work but then I remember where I live and what shit happens here
no lol
just choose your judge then like the ultra rich do
🤔
Your lawyer is also the judge, and the jury
arbites are trained as lawyers
they're the Imperium's Attorneys
I guess more accurately the imperium has no defense lawyers
some arbites are more focused on law
Lots of prosecutors
true
Gaunt's Ghosts - Necropolis mentioned a lawyer because a commissar wanted to free a tank colonel who was accused of insubordination while a war was happening.
Everyone with a gun is a legally effective prosecutor in the imperium
You just have to have a good excuse for whoever you’re killing
In all seriousness yeah theres probably a special lawyer priesthood that spends their lives studying the lex, its considered a holy text
Probably within the arbites?
somebody's got to defend the hive nobles accusing eachother of bullshit
We need more arbites lore about when they're not out busting heads
send pics >_>
it wasn't for me

for some reason femboys enjoy having clothes bought for them
I mean...free clothes
Because its not their money
Doesn't everyone like getting stuff bought for them
Ballin
let me rephrase
they enjoy having somebody choose clothes for them
im not paying shit lol
they do that thing where if you weigh more then the goose guilty less then the goose also guilty
Then what the hell do furries want
Military grade ordinance?
I mean
the key to my heart 
Who doesn't want that though
I'm going to take that as an unfortunate yes
A poor family living in the middle of nowhere
Would you argue if someone decided to buy you something like that
No because if they are rich enough and have connections enough to get military grade ordinance I ain't going to say shit
be pretty cool to have a jdam
Just put the inconspicuous jdam in the background of your webcam
if you dont have a jdam for aura farming purposes are you really living
the hellfire missile is my coat hanger
If I got a weapon, I wouldn't even know what to do with it, like make it safe and hang it around I guss
ted kaczynski couldve gone places it he has a whole jdam
that defeats the whole purpose tho
I don't need a weapon
Are you sure
sounds like youre very jdam susceptible then
I don't need to protect myself
are you sure
Yes


