"I will lower the population for a bit due to a lack of resources. And then increase it once I have enough!"
#40k-lore-chat
tough haven
Just had a friend say teleportation sounds fun
paper haven
You see if there are less people then the number of starving people goes down
tough haven
left talon
"I will lower the population for a bit due to a lack of resources. And then incr...
I don’t even do that in an RTS I just spam long range artillery and hope it works
tough haven
Yeah bro, lemme just toss you into this
opaque coyote
Just had a friend say teleportation sounds fun
depends what kind
If it's 40k, no
If it's the type that atomizes you and then rebuilds you
tough haven
They meant in 40K
paper haven
Too bad halving the population also halves the number of farmers
opaque coyote
That sounds disturbing
And finally
If it's the Jaunt
Yeah that actually does sound neat
left talon
That sounds disturbing
We really don’t get enough failures of that type
opaque coyote
Like the only reason why the kid went crazy is because he decided to not take the
fucking sleeping pill
Like bro, if you just take the pill and have a nice nap
It's literally just teleportation
The Jaunt is only a horror story because one person decided to be a dumbass
opaque coyote
Yeah bro, lemme just toss you into this
What about the teleport flares the fucking
Grey Knights use?
left talon
If it's the Jaunt
The what
left talon
Can I have and idea of it shorter than 16 google doc pages
opaque coyote
TLDR; Basically two portals are set up.
You go in there while asleep
You come back on the other end. Allows people to teleport from Earth to Mars within minutes.
But apparently the time dilation between realms makes the short distance feel like eternity '
So they solve it by simply putting you to sleep
and then you wake up from the nap in your destination.
Happens instanteously in real time
But in whatever realm inbetween, it lasts an eternity
left talon
Right
opaque coyote
I suggest you read the story though, it's pretty good
nocturne crest
I suggest you read the story though, it's pretty good
It also partly inspired Emesis blue animation
storm jungle
paper haven
vagrant fox
tough haven
What about the teleport flares the fucking
Yeah it makes it more accurate, and they’ve mastered it, but it’s still dangerous
Still exposes you to the warp for a few seconds
paper haven
What about the Stephen King story where the guy survived a plane crash, gets stranded on an island and eats his own legs?
fervent gull
What does loner psyker mean when they say 'by the five' when they are using venting shriek?
fervent gull
opaque coyote
young pecan
Grok is this true
Grok you're supposed to tell me that's not true
No stop explaining it to me
storm jungle
Titans are overrated as fuck so i agree
paper haven
What's the baneblade variant that can kill titans?
celest dome
And Doomhammers in smaller capacities
storm jungle
What
cyan merlin
Good question
I haven't slept in way too long and I can feel my brain cells dying
cyan merlin
:0
storm jungle
celest dome
I just realised that blood moon's pfp wasn't a weird monster from that digital circus show
rocky gale
I just realised that wasn't Sid the Sloth in the middle of yours
rocky gale
Arcane ye
celest dome
Potato potato
languid meadow
Sid the sloth is canon to Aliens
storm jungle
no
storm jungle
storm jungle
damn okay I just might now
im waiting for it to be fully out atm
i cant bare cliffhangers
rocky gale
I've only seen one clip from it and it's an Alien pretending to be a statue to mess with people, it looked so peak
near wasp
I keep going back to gene father the relistening the the trial of cawl
storm jungle
his argument is so fucking good
it feels like a scene from Better Call Saul
its literally nothing but "UM, AKSHUALLY TECHNICALLY- 🤓 "
meanwhile his opposition is like:
near wasp
Cawls absolutely right about all his arguments but man if Frank knew about fucking kqov. Cawl would probably be dead
Dudes got skeletons in his closet too bad frank looking in the wrong closet
shrewd depot
Been thinking about running a 40k tabletop game, probably Rogue Trader if anything, and I was thinking about potential characters:
Are nanites a thing in the Mechancius? Or is that more Necron tier tech?
Because a mechanicus dude who is completely made of nanites, typically assuming a fully 'human' shape but completely able to morph his arms into fuuucking bolters or chainweapons sounds fun
arctic talon
Are nanites a thing in the Mechancius? Or is that more Necron tier tech?
Yes
The mechanicus, tau, dark eldar and Necrons
All have nanite tech
shrewd depot
But like, the swarm style
I was inspired by 'Bloodshot', a film about a dude who is bascially exactly what I'm describing lol
storm jungle
Entirely yes.
Every single form of technology exists in 40k
All of it.
The most advanced shit you can just pass off as "dark age lost tech" or whatever
storm jungle
Because a mechanicus dude who is completely made of nanites, typically assuming ...
This though is abit more harder.
storm jungle
Not even that
He'd need to be someone either extremely high ranking to be untouchable politically, if its like someone low/mid ranking you'd have yourself completely harvested by your peers to find the root of this great technology or just get blasted apart for being an abomination.
Id suggest making them a heretek
perfect excuse after they get infused
arctic talon
Based
storm jungle
especially if they are in a Rogue Trader thing
literally the game form for misfits lol
shrewd depot
I was mulling with the idea of him being some Necron Phariah type
storm jungle
Like just a metal robot?
shrewd depot
But capable of the morphing thing, more organic feeling
Probably couldn't do the whole 'cloud' style reformation
shrewd depot
Like just a metal robot?
Phariahs were like, living metal+ right?
storm jungle
Nah
they are literally just humans turned to necrons
all necrons are living metal since they are made from necrodermis
but it isnt really like nanomachines
shrewd depot
If he was Necron based Id go with some liquid metal style shit
Straight out of terminator
storm jungle
If hes necron based that kinda goes more into mary sue territory
you are basically making like a super OP member
shrewd depot
Oh this wouldn't be a serious game, if Im including this guy as an NPC necron
storm jungle
when you make characters that can have essentially superpowers like this it raises the question of "why are they even bothering hanging out/helping anyone"
shrewd depot
The mechanicus idea is more what I'd feature in a serious game
A dark mechanicus dude who maintains an image of humanity but is actually corrupting the RT under the PCs noses
He gets caught out and just fuuucking morphs into his true form ala some daemon shit
urban spire
so like
why doesn't he just do some daemon shit
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Obliterator_Virus check this shit out
storm jungle
Tbh thats kinda the thing with chaos
you can make up any nonsense
since its just eldritch magic bullshit lol
a more controllable power like the one mentioned above cna also work
shrewd depot
why doesn't he just do some daemon shit
Well I'd probably be going for a Man of Iron route
Like the apex of human form and technology in one being
Mans too prideful to be relying on daemons
urban spire
yeah that's fair
shrewd depot
The 'true form' is something I'd have to work out, it wouldn't be visually daemonic
Probably more like the fuuuucking Iron Giant attack mode lmao
Except its all morphing into shape out of a cloud of nanites
urban spire
but yeah the mechanicus does make some use of nanites but it's generally like
pretty modest
shrewd depot
Tiny doctor bots from what I've seen in books so far
Cleaning blood streams and the like
urban spire
yarp
the mechanicus has an aesthetic going on, the T-1000 look doesn't really smoothly fit in with it
not that you should let that dissuade you
shrewd depot
I thinking this guy would be mechanicus/heretek with ties to dark mechanicus. Like the origins of the nanite body is something I'ma have to think about, but following the lines of 'early life mechanicus, later heretek/dark mechanicus into present RT game' seems simple enough
What are dark mechanicus's deal?
They just don't like Big E?
urban spire
's complicated
there's a good novel that covers the schism
i forget the name of it though
you're welcome
that aside, essentially the dark mechanicum sided with horus, the mechanicus sided with the emperor
and which side a given tech priest found themselves on wasn't entirely down to who they wanted to side with, but also like
"well the emperor wants to make it illegal to do the stuff i've spent my entire life researching and also he wants me to lobotomize my robot buddy, so i guess i'm with horus"
sacred bluff
only good faction is iron warriors
lament shoal
How did magnus fall to chaos?
shrewd depot
How did magnus fall to chaos?
Man made a lotta mistakes
lament shoal
Lmao its alright
urban spire
so the emperor told magnus "don't use your powers" and then magnus used his powers a LOT
lament shoal
Ik the destruction of his homeworld contributed to it too
urban spire
essentially a lot of the horus heresy could have been averted if the emperor wasn't being such a cagey weirdo about his motivations and orders
near wasp
Why am I getting so invested into my characters inheritance laws for the knight household
near wasp
Fair enough
urban spire
you want enatic gavelkind
storm jungle
Trust me its very hard to write noble drama you actually care for lol
near wasp
Basically the inheritance system works like this. When two knight pilots get married they have two children and those two children will each inherit one of the knight suits. Children born after those two will either be shipped off world to fulfill other roles, such as the schola or they will be tithed to the mechancus as knight pilots for questoris knights. The knight tithe is used to import knight parts and mechancus support. When the bloodline gets too stale a knight pilot will marry an offworlder and only the firstborn will inherit the knight suit. That way mutations and inbreeding can be managed.
urban spire
i don't know anything about imperial knights, do they often have mutations?
near wasp
I mean the population probably gets pretty inbreed just look at irl medieval noble bloodlines even things like a Habsburg jaw would be considered a mutation
urban spire
humanity is pretty diverse in 40k, you generally have to get kinda out there before something is considered a mutation (unless you're in a particularly insular place)
storm jungle
i don't know anything about imperial knights, do they often have mutations?
Nope.
Its a huge no-no and taboo
its nobles at the end of the day
genetic purity is kinda the whole deal
near wasp
Yeah the idea is to keep the families as close knit as possible while staving off mutations and ill effects.
I think this type of thing was even covered in kingmaker
storm jungle
Yep its one of the big parts in it since the main dude is an outcast noble coming home
near wasp
God those inheritance laws in the book were complicated
I think I'm just gonna have branches of the families form round tables for governance and ruling. The eldest in the branch holds the seat of power
Haven't thought too much into it that far yet
storm jungle
its been like 1 Millennia since its fall iirc
near wasp
It's already been 1k jesus
rocky gale
Things move quick
near wasp
I thought I'd only been 45 years max or something
storm jungle
To be fair
we are perpetually gonna be stuck in M42 for like a good few years
so dont worry too much i think lol
rose thorn
cant wait for next edition of HH where they release a 350 dollar box set of mark 1 power armor and rhinos (shitpost)
arctic talon
cant wait for next edition of HH where they release a 350 dollar box set of mark...
It’s gona be MK4
I bet
lol
crystal forum
im starting to enjoy pancreas's videos
shell mason
we are perpetually gonna be stuck in M42 for like a good few years
or at least till they release everything
crystal forum
i now know about the halo timeline
shell mason
feels like we are getting closer to the end
arctic talon
or at least till they release everything
We’re staying in M.42 forever
rose thorn
It’s gona be MK4
how old is the current mark 5 power armor kit?
crystal forum
mark 5 is only in resin
arctic talon
how old is the current mark 5 power armor kit?
2 years older then the current MK4 kit
crystal forum
and they're all sold out afaik
rose thorn
mark 4*
arctic talon
Yeah
rose thorn
sorry lol
rose thorn
ah
storm jungle
or at least till they release everything
So like 20 IRL years
arctic talon
Or 8
crystal forum
mk4 is so old it's still firstborn stunty
storm jungle
we got time
crystal forum
they primaris'd the mk 3 onwards
arctic talon
*Nuscale
shell mason
So like 20 IRL years
shhhh
crystal forum
Not primaris acale
shatap nerd
languid meadow
No dreams allowed please stop doing that
arctic talon
No dreams allowed please stop doing that
shell mason
No dreams allowed please stop doing that
rose thorn
wwhats a vehicle space marien fans have gas lit htem selves into liking uhhhhh
languid meadow
Are you ok?
arctic talon
wwhats a vehicle space marien fans have gas lit htem selves into liking uhhhhh
The Hunter
No one actually likes it
rose thorn
THE HUNTERRR
crystal forum
warhammer 1000 years into the future:
https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/damir-snajder-hive-city-a4-768x1086.jpg.webp
arctic talon
What’s the awful stormcast sculpt
shell mason
What would the advance in time even do
Abby can get his thumb out his ass
crystal forum
(nothing has changed)
arctic talon
With like
rose thorn
i was gonna sya ladn speeder
arctic talon
The really overly ornate trim
shell mason
Clonegrim can try to come back
arctic talon
It’s like that for stormcast players
rose thorn
What’s the awful stormcast sculpt
knight vexilator?
arctic talon
Yes
storm jungle
Abby can get his thumb out his ass
He has years ago
arctic talon
I think
rose thorn
vexillor*
arctic talon
Also Abby is doing shit
storm jungle
Clonegrim can try to come back
He isnt coming back
oh my god
can people stfu about clonegirm
rose thorn
or hte flying one uh
arctic talon
Sometimes I wish the dude who wrote about Clonegrim did his original plan
Which was
Clonegrim got torn apart and eaten
Like Jesus Christ
shell mason
can people stfu about clonegirm
LET A MAN DREAM
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
LET A MAN DREAM
Clonegrim is literally jus ta plot device
arctic talon
LET A MAN DREAM
Stop dreaming
storm jungle
what the fuck is a loyalist fulgrim gonna do
crystal forum
clonegrim had to be somewhere to begin with to be able to come back
storm jungle
you do realise we got actual slop loyalist primarchs coming back right
arctic talon
Not even loyalist fulgrim
storm jungle
who gives a shit
shell mason
Clonegrim is literally jus ta plot device
YES ONE I LIKE
crystal forum
it's a primarch!!!!
near wasp
russ or dorn are next
rose thorn
KNGIHT VENATOR
rose thorn
crystal forum
ferrus manus is coming
arctic talon
Yes that one
God
That one is awful lol
If you say you like the sculpt you’re absolutely lying
It’s so over designed and not in a good way
shell mason
Bile should have eaten fulgrim
your mom should have eaten you
rose thorn
Just saying if he was named noone would care that hes this awful lmao
shell mason
It was in the air and I took it
crystal forum
hey wolf i know halo lore now
arctic talon
Just saying if he was named noone would care that hes this awful lmao
I have standards/hj
shell mason
lemme see actually
crystal forum
and i hate precursors now
arctic talon
lol
rose thorn
"oh tyeah of course the guy who 360 head shot jonny nurgle drinker would have the awesome bird"
rose thorn
ye
crystal forum
also i never knew when playing reach that i was playing peak
rose thorn
the heda is awesome tho i wanan give it to a custom character
shell mason
were getting world eaters, thousand sons, and more death guard.
crystal forum
i should boot up the old xbox 360
arctic talon
the heda is awesome tho i wanan give it to a custom character
Individually each bit is fine
shell mason
After that Black templars, Salamanders
arctic talon
In total it’s too much
shell mason
so Vulcan may actually come back
Determines if we are actually gonna still be around to see it
tomorrow is never promised
arctic talon
Own Codex chapters with a living dad first
Then we’ll see where it goes from there
TLDR Russ next
Then Dorn prolly because BT
And IF get the cuck chair
But maybe GW will do something different lol
shell mason
And IF get the cuck chair
what
rose thorn
My bet for the next edition horus heresy box
HH hunter rhino, mark 4, Tartaros Pattern Terminator Armour, andddd idk Castraferrum dread
rose thorn
end of this edition isbasically confirmed to be.. im blanking ont he name holy shit
arctic talon
For 40k? It’s not gona be russ
arctic talon
Loyalist primarchs are one edition on one edition off
We’re getting him next edition
shell mason
Most likely
arctic talon
did a primarhc release
We got Lion last Ed
arctic talon
Chaos Primarchs are every edition
arctic talon
Vulkan
No codex, so you’re gona be waiting a while
Besides we just got vulkan
Wdym
shell mason
No codex, so you’re gona be waiting a while
when
rocky gale
Loyalist primarchs are one edition on one edition off
Ramping accelerated scale of release
rose thorn
crazy that white scars are a non codex complaint founding chapter and still gets shafted
arctic talon
crazy that white scars are a non codex complaint founding chapter and still gets...
Sallies and scars are both non compliant lol
But chapters who got their own codex
Is entirely based on who got them
In 2e and 3e
rose thorn
bruh
arctic talon
I mean
It’s literally why
BA, DA, BT, and SW
Have their own codex
They just got chosen at random by someone in GW lol
Idrc
lol
Marines already get more then enough support, not every first founding chapter needs a codex
rose thorn
note to self: blame 2e and 3e
rose thorn
no one hsould be getting special treatment but what ever its tradition at this point
arctic talon
Salamander “fans” deserve less
rose thorn
Salamander “fans” deserve less
fact
arctic talon
no one hsould be getting special treatment but what ever its tradition at this p...
Kid named grand alliance order and space marines
rose thorn
LMAO
arctic talon
AM I WRONG???
Grand alliance order is by far the preferred child of AOS
And then grand alliance chaos is the second preferred child
Death being in third
And then destruction gets to eat sand
rose thorn
but at least prder os like 12 unique factions
holy shit im more isck than i think i cant type
arctic talon
That’s my point
Grand alliance order got like
4x the attention of any of the other grand alliances
And then stormcast and Lumineth within grand alliance order
Are the preferred child
rose thorn
And then stormcast and Lumineth within grand alliance order
stormcasts yeah but lumineth?
rose thorn
oh yeah thats because they are a new faction. every faction usually gets 2 major releases and hten are sent to the hero hole
arctic talon
Lumineth have a comically huge range
No like
When compared to other factions
Lumineth’s range is like
3x everyone else in grand alliance order
But stormcast
Lumineth were def a favorite child
For a bit
It’s impossible to deny it
rose thorn
14 heroes. 5 infnatry, 2 cav, 2 monsters, 1 war machine
24 warscrolls
12 heroes, 6 infantry, . 18 warscrolls for fyreslayers
arctic talon
Actually seraphon have a ton but they’re old
rose thorn
14 heroes,7 infantry, 5 cav, 2 beasts, 4 monsters
arctic talon
Now that I think about it
rose thorn
i was counting seraphon lmao
rose thorn
the factions based off factions from whfb usually have alot fo stuff
rose thorn
the blanche art?
arctic talon
The Blanche art was for AoS
arctic talon
No it doesn’t
He did AoS concept art
Like the stormcast stuff
Blanche literally did aos concept art
arctic talon
crystal forum
rose thorn
arctic talon
He was working for GW till like
opaque coyote
you can never escape
arctic talon
2 years ago
opaque coyote
arctic talon
And he still does consultation work
rose thorn
blanche iilu but your hadn writing
crystal forum
hey speaking of watercolor, what happened to that guy who kept posting about that thing
rose thorn
OOO NEVER SAW THIS ONE BEFORE
rocky gale
hey speaking of watercolor, what happened to that guy who kept posting about tha...
The Quar guy?
Think he got banned
crystal forum
i assume it is quar related
crystal forum
no matter the conversation, quar
always quar
literally joins the server and beelines this channel to quar
rose thorn
But yeah Blanche has **soooo** much concept art for both AoS and 40k
sine of stuff got 1 to 1 warhammer models its nutty
crystal forum
why does he have cowboy boots
arctic talon
It’s Idoneth, fyreslayers and one of the death factions
I think FEC?
Since he did soulblight and night haunt
arctic talon
sine of stuff got 1 to 1 warhammer models its nutty
It’s insane lol
rose thorn
think fec lmao
arctic talon
I’m like 99% sure it’s FEC
Because ossiarch stuff feels like I’ve seen similar artwork before
lol
rose thorn
i know i saw art that looksl ike ossiarhc but wasnt meant ot be ossiarhc
rocky gale
Damn, Blanche Stormcast and Kruleboyz
arctic talon
GW where’s my scribes of tzeentch in plate armor
They exist in lore and art
Gimme
rose thorn
GW where’s my scribes of tzeentch in plate armor
Like the cursling ?
rocky gale
rose thorn
One of the few times I disagree with AOS team, they should have made this guy a unique hero
arctic talon
One of the few times I disagree with AOS team, they should have made this guy a...
Bro got hit with the curse of generefication
He was the only one of the mortal chaos champions to like
rose thorn
LMAO
rose thorn
Tzeentch was like ‘oh yeah, I like his curse imma reuse it’
arctic talon
Well in whfb it was the dudes weaker twin
Who took over his body as the tiny little creature thing
rose thorn
If it helps I expect alot of nurgle old world heroes to die soon
rocky gale
It's one of my biggest complaints about AoS, where like they'll the most detailed monopose model ever with so much characterful detail that it can literally only be constructed one way, then give it generic HQ rules and expect you to run 2/3 of them
rose thorn
If it helps I expect alot of nurgle old world heroes to die soon
There’s alot of them
arctic talon
If it helps I expect alot of nurgle old world heroes to die soon
Well they’re already in legends
Despite being alive
Since no mini
Maybe valkia will get a super cool new AoS mini
I don’t care for Nurgle so I don’t care about festus
rose thorn
Bloab, rotgut, morbidex, orghotts are all probably getting sent to hell
sour hornet
I can never watch essays on media that I like because I always end up like this 3 seconds in
arctic talon
Bloab, rotgut, morbidex, orghotts are all probably getting sent to hell
Oh those fuckers
Yeah no
They’re cooked LOL
rocky gale
these fucking names man
Don't tell her about the sloppity bilepiper
arctic talon
No that one is peak
rocky gale
sour hornet
Don't tell her about the sloppity bilepiper
they were cookin wit that one
rose thorn
After nurgle blessed them he was like ‘ur new reborn name is pissfiddle’
rocky gale
He also got renamed by Nurgle
arctic talon
You think it can't get more on-the-nose, then GW just whips out 'Typhus'
“Festus”
storm jungle
writing room in 30k
arctic talon
“We can’t call him fucking typhus”
storm jungle
"We cannot name him Typhus pre-heresy thats too obviosu"
LMFAO YEA
"Lets name him Typhon!"
"INGENIUS"
arctic talon
Let’s name him typhoid
rose thorn
Otto ethrac and ghurk, despite all having the last name fucking Glott I think kept their names
sour hornet
"INGENIUS"
💀 💀 💀
rose thorn
Otto glott
arctic talon
Otto Glott roll out
rose thorn
"We cannot name him Typhus pre-heresy thats too obviosu"
I literally didn’t noticed they renamed him
arctic talon
It’s meant to be obvious
Oh also there’s a fucking DG legionary on the black books
Called Nergal
crystal forum
dracula spelled backwards
rose thorn
Horticulous slimux keeps whispering to me to start a nurgle army
He’s my favorite model in the whole army
crystal forum
i am patiently waiting in the bushes for this convo to end so i can start halo lore chat
rose thorn
sour hornet
i am patiently waiting in the bushes for this convo to end so i can start halo l...
I will patiently await this as well
storm jungle
paper haven
It's clever, I promise
languid meadow
paper haven
Russ is not beating the furry allegations
crystal forum
and keep getting donowalled
i am as patient as the river cutting a canyon through the mountain
paper haven
ODST drops are suicide missions
crystal forum
literally started with peak
crystal forum
it looks like it yeah
paper haven
Sucks to be you. You started with the best you can only go downhill
crystal forum
i went to 4 after
arctic talon
💀
crystal forum
and after that things went fuzzy
paper haven
Oh wow right to the ground
crystal forum
i should return to the series
paper haven
Just swan dove off a cliff
arctic talon
Reach is the best bungie halo game
crystal forum
but everybody hates 5 right?
arctic talon
And it’s not even close
crystal forum
is 5 hated more than 4
arctic talon
but everybody hates 5 right?
5 is a bad halo game
I won’t call 5 a bad game because it’s actually not a bad game it’s just not a halo game
The story mode is shit though
lol
paper haven
Considering I literally have no idea what happens in 5, yeah it's probably pretty bad
crystal forum
yeah feels like the story has no impact after reach
arctic talon
Yeah because 343 wouldn’t commit
crystal forum
like wtf was 4 about
arctic talon
lol
crystal forum
4 is how i learned about forerunners btw
paper haven
You dialed the wrong number
storm jungle
yeah feels like the story has no impact after reach
The ones in red aka the ones made after Bungie left Halo is the peaks of the series.
arctic talon
Mostly about chief’s brain
crystal forum
i liked the forerunner guns
storm jungle
but the issue is basically what you said
after Halo 3 where the story basically ends tehres literally nothing to do
crystal forum
but damn now that i learned about the covenant war, the series has really never done anything good afterwards
storm jungle
every thread is wrapped up
paper haven
They made a Halo wars 2!?
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
but damn now that i learned about the covenant war, the series has really never ...
Correct
arctic talon
It’s good
storm jungle
^
paper haven
God damn how did I miss that?
storm jungle
the human/covenant war is like well WAS the man attraction of halo
languid meadow
The Banished are really really good
arctic talon
In any case I think Halo 4 had the best story of the 343 games by far lol
5 was awful and infinite was
Whatever
languid meadow
It sucks cause the Diadact IS a good character
paper haven
If humans and covenant aren't at war, then there's no point.
languid meadow
in the books
crystal forum
i liked the mantis in 4
languid meadow
when he's in the domain
crystal forum
i just did not understand or care about the forerunners
rose thorn
i am patiently waiting in the bushes for this convo to end so i can start halo l...
Is the wargame good?
paper haven
What, you gonna throw in the flood halfway through the game again?
crystal forum
also 4 ingrained in my head that forerunners are morons
arctic talon
The Halo war game is decent
rose thorn
Tabletop wargame *
paper haven
also 4 ingrained in my head that forerunners are morons
Well sorta but that one in particular
crystal forum
What, you gonna throw in the flood halfway through the game again?
i like that reach had beige colored spartans for the multiplayer zombie mode because no flood models
rose thorn
Hope ya like Spartans
Always a weird choice
crystal forum
oh
crystal forum
i thought you could play as flood in 3
paper haven
i like that reach had beige colored spartans for the multiplayer zombie mode bec...
Light green was the tradition
arctic talon
With the flood model and halo 4
crystal forum
zombies was my fav game mode and this should not be a surprise to any of you
arctic talon
languid meadow
but it sucks since it's THE game that's linked to a canon flood infected spartans
arctic talon
Anyway here’s the flood Spartan model
paper haven
The halo 3 maps made infected mode really fun
crystal forum
also zombies was the only way i could ever hear the announcer say killionaire
paper haven
Because you could be brain dead and still get killionaire on infected
crystal forum
yes
paper haven
Halo 4 had flood?
arctic talon
The sounds they made were cool
crystal forum
Halo 4 had flood?
no
paper haven
Oh
crystal forum
also this is peak i hate it
arctic talon
And it was an in lore simulation to train for a scenario where the flood infect a spartan
paper haven
Stop giving lore reasons for deathmatch, Bungie
paper haven
Just let red guys shoot blue guys
crystal forum
although to put it clear i think flood are a horrible enemy for the narrative so i get why the games didn't have them after 3
arctic talon
Also fun fact this is 343 lore but Spartans deployed in conditions where they may encounter flood get a special modification into their helmet
crystal forum
they're too strong
arctic talon
Called the guillotine module
I’ll give you one guess what it does
When you get infected
crystal forum
can't the flood still use the nervous system
paper haven
although to put it clear i think flood are a horrible enemy for the narrative so...
That and literally all three games had the flood show up halfway through.
arctic talon
can't the flood still use the nervous system
The goal is to remove the brain so the flood can’t get the info
But yeah the body would still be somewhat usable if in a degraded form
Flood infection forms like to nestle in spartan heads apparently
Based on the halo 2 art
paper haven
Couldn't the flood still infect the severed head though?
crystal forum
That and literally all three games had the flood show up halfway through.
they have the star trek borg narrative of being way too strong so they have to be used sparingly (star trek failed at this)
arctic talon
Couldn't the flood still infect the severed head though?
It blows up the head
As in it turns it into a pulp
It’s useless aside from as biomass
It doesn’t literally sever the head
Well I mean it does
paper haven
That at least sounds like it might work
arctic talon
But it’s not cutting it off
It happens whenever the Spartan is medically dead or the armor detects infection
Then your head goes boom
paper haven
Well I guessed from the name that it cut the head off
crystal forum
flood is like that one kid who says he has a counter to all your attacks when playing imaginary fighting
like how do you win
arctic talon
Also I do like in halo wars 2 how some of the banished think the flood are fake
paper haven
You shoot every kid on the playground.
-The forerunners, being sore losers
arctic talon
And break into the ruins of high charity
💀
I’ll give you one guess how this “wonderful” idea goes
crystal forum
wtf is an endless btw
arctic talon
wtf is an endless btw
It’s a sentient species immune to the halo ring
Likely due to lacking a nervous system or some shit
crystal forum
i came into the setting expecting way too many precursor races and now there's more
crystal forum
but they're ancient
languid meadow
yes
paper haven
I’ll give you one guess how this “wonderful” idea goes
Let me guess, Private Jenkins but it's from a grunt's perspective
crystal forum
werent ancient humans way better
arctic talon
Let me guess, Private Jenkins but it's from a grunt's perspective
Yeah but from a brutes perspective because grunts get scared too easily and they don’t go in
lol
paper haven
Ancient humans were basically gods
crystal forum
also does new humanity just... never wonder why they just popped into existence on earth
crystal forum
that is frighteningly accurate
arctic talon
Poor brutes lol
crystal forum
but like does humanity know about ancient humans
arctic talon
Yes
crystal forum
Ancient humans were basically gods
so they were genetically better?
arctic talon
They started finding out later
paper haven
Poor brutes lol
https://youtu.be/G7uRTh33A1s?si=Kzv7xte99FGpggGt
How the fuck does anyone stumble upon the flood and not immediately know what it is by now?
arctic talon
How the fuck does anyone stumble upon the flood and not immediately know what it...
They weren’t part of the covenant
They defected early in the war
All they knew about the flood was old myths and legends
crystal forum
so halo is supposed to still have regular history before the future era right
arctic talon
And also that the covenant fell because they were stupid and egotistical
paper haven
so they were genetically better?
I do actually think genetics plays a part yeah
arctic talon
A few of the banished actually know
What the flood actually are
But the brute officer in charge
arctic talon
Along with their subordinates didn’t
paper haven
They weren’t part of the covenant
Still though, the three flood outbreaks should be plastered on every sentient TV screen in the galaxy
arctic talon
so why did they never figure out that there's ruins of shit on the planet
It all got cleaned off by the forerunners or some shit idk
crystal forum
so do ancient humans have any reason to exist plot wise
paper haven
They took out high charity, the covenant capital, Africa got glassed because of it
crystal forum
or is it just there to explain why the covenant hate humans
paper haven
I mean, the covenant hating humans is pretty plot relevant
crystal forum
yeah it is
paper haven
But aside from that, I guess not
crystal forum
ah
i meant if it ever gets expanded on
that there was a super high tech humanity lol
paper haven
You see bits during forerunner flashbacks
languid meadow
paper haven
There was a war between the forerunners and humans because the flood hit a human world and the forerunners glassed it immediately but then refused to elaborate
languid meadow
Yeah basically
paper haven
They look like space native Americans
languid meadow
also the Lord of Admirals (the guy in the pic) is still around in modern halo
paper haven
Which I think is pretty cool but also weird
languid meadow
he's in the Domain with the Diadact killing human AIs
crystal forum
it's that sci fi tradition of making older species be IRL older cultures but sci fi i guess
or it's meant to show that ancient humans were more in harmony than modern ones or smth
paper haven
But yeah, I swear someone in 343 studios is a scientologist
arctic talon
He got turned into an AI
crystal forum
so is he evil now
paper haven
or it's meant to show that ancient humans were more in harmony than modern ones ...
Because native Americans were, famously, cooperative and harmonious
paper haven
Refer to cyberpunk 2077
languid meadow
Not a modern AI which essentially kills the person and copies them into an AI
crystal forum
so he's just himself
languid meadow
yes
crystal forum
and he's not like a huge part of the lore
crystal forum
the inner nerd in me wants to learn about ancient humanity
crystal forum
what was their culture, traditions, history
paper haven
I like the books but can we talk about contact harvest?
languid meadow
he, the diadact, and a bunch of ancient humans are in the domain making a game out of killing the left over human AIs in there
crystal forum
did they reach the stars without shitting on the planet as much as modern humans etc etc
languid meadow
they were banging the prophets
crystal forum
but they didn't have tons of colonies like modern humanity ye
paper haven
Ancient elites were basically feudal japan
languid meadow
ancient sangshyum were described as a beautiful people
the ancient human-sang empire is what fought the flood the forerunners
crystal forum
he, the diadact, and a bunch of ancient humans are in the domain making a game o...
so he's evil
languid meadow
till the prophets betrayed humanity
crystal forum
and by human AI you mean like cortana right
paper haven
The prophets got tired of being the side piece
crystal forum
why are they killing eachother
crystal forum
oh right cortana turns evil or smth
paper haven
Flood computer virus
crystal forum
so halo lore is still stuck in limbo after the covenant war i see
good writers could do something with the shattered covenant
rose thorn
anyone know if warhammer events allow custom water transfers?
for like competitive play and art compitions
crystal forum
I like the books but can we talk about contact harvest?
what's that again
paper haven
what's that again
Nominally it's when humans and covenant first made contact, but in practice it's sort of like a Sergeant Johnson fan fic
rose thorn
anyone know if warhammer events allow custom water transfers?
jsut realized i could use nail stamping stuff lol
crystal forum
Nominally it's when humans and covenant first made contact, but in practice it's...
i like it already
which halo game starts you on a beach again
i remember played that on my dad's ancient PC as a small infant
paper haven
Uhh. The first one had a beach level
arctic talon
anyone know if warhammer events allow custom water transfers?
Yes
Well
Depends
But generally yes
Including GW
crystal forum
Uhh. The first one had a beach level
damn
i should play it
for some reason my dad used to play quake deathmatch, doom 3 and halo 1
but he has no idea what a mario is
arctic talon
Deathwatch in Killteam can skip taking a sgt lol
rose thorn
What can you build instead of sgt?
arctic talon
What can you build instead of sgt?
It’s just pick 5 from list of 11
I think it’s the blade master? That shares the body
But you could put it on any body
Realistically
rose thorn
I think it’s the blade master? That shares the body
ah its probably the black shield stand in
crystal forum
for some reason my dad used to play quake deathmatch, doom 3 and halo 1
update on dad lore, he never played those games
so why tf were they on the family computer
i found the discs and booted doom 3 when i was like 6
nightmare fuel
opaque coyote
so why tf were they on the family computer
Maybe for you back then?
Also how the fuck does this guy say boom, blasting, bomb, etc. without any lips
"Soone called or a oo?" "It's lasting tie!"
This is an important lore question
jade holly
celest cedar
Also how the fuck does this guy say boom, blasting, bomb, etc. without any lips
dont question it
valid needle
no one hsould be getting special treatment but what ever its tradition at this p...
It’s not special treatment
Only chapters with non space marine codex models receive a supplement. IF never will because they are, for the most part fully adherent to the codex astartes and so all their models are covered by the base space marine codex.
arctic talon
Only chapters with non space marine codex models receive a supplement. IF never ...
Sallies, WS, RG all have specialist formations and WS and sallies both aren't codex compliant
but they're in the core codex anyways lol
valid needle
Sallies, WS, RG all have specialist formations and WS and sallies both aren't co...
And they three all have codex supplements
They just need updated ones
valid needle
Tbh this edition is about over
No point really when we will all need to buy them again next year
arctic talon
well
not a hard reset
if they released them they'd be fine
lol
since they'd stay for a while
radiant lance
Does nurgle bless bombers with insane throwing skill?
Like legitimately
Just echolocating you somehow, throwing a grenade across the map behind like 3 walls, and then nailing you in the head
Like it's pretty dumb to not make grenades standard issue, but like if someone can throw like him, fuck it; just give all the grenades to him
summer mural
well
it appears the bomber is like...entirely specialized in explosives
and sucks at all else pretty much
hes probably trained his whole life to make grenades richochet off a wall and shit
queen laurel
hes probably trained his whole life to make grenades richochet off a wall and sh...
and they probably main this guy in team fortress 2
opaque coyote
and they probably main this guy in team fortress 2
hitting mid air pipes
queen laurel
Didn't have an equal in Marvel Rival
well there is one character where their weapon is grenades squirrel girl but unfortunately the rest of her ability don't really have anything related to explosives
sour hornet
this was in context to fallout, i swear
crystal forum
so funny emmesh
sour hornet
I was just surprised at how quickly you can end up rich and with full gear when you abandon morals
which is like
way better
than RT
where you just, beat people to death for no profit
sour hornet
like the heretical path is just babymunching evil
im an evil fuck but im not a babymuncher man like cmon
crystal forum
haha
opaque coyote
I was just surprised at how quickly you can end up rich and with full gear when ...
To be honest, I feel like the evil routes should give you a lot of reward quickly
Like that's sometimes why people do evil things
Although maybe it would be interesting if it gave you less reward later
Since usually doing evil things gives you a lot of riches in the short term
But fucks you over in the long run because people don't like dying or being in misery.
And would also see you as a danger.
sour hornet
It makes it much more alluring and sensible in how ambitious people fall to it so quickly
Like, you can be an evil fuck but you'll be polarizing to the extent that you can only really associate long-term with other evil fucks
opaque coyote
It makes it much more alluring and sensible in how ambitious people fall to it s...
Dishonored is the only game series that kinda does that successfully
Even then it has it's flaws but it's generally kinda the only game where the good/evil paths make full snese.
You got god like abilities, it's so easy to literally murder your way through
But the consequences of literally murdering everybody in your way make things worse
Also you got a kid... that's a future ruler
And you shouldn't make it so that she accidentally learns that "murder is the only way to success"
In Dishonored 1, playing full pacifist is just extremely annoying.
To the point where it feels unfun at times.
Dishonored 2 is perfect gameplay wise.
summer mural
playing pacifist in dishonored 1 is so easy lol, you can just leave people untouched and blink
opaque coyote
wdym pacifist 1 is amazing
This is partially due to me being terrible at stealth.
summer mural
and i agree dishonored 1 is the perfect game
crystal forum
i still cant fucking believe
opaque coyote
But also because of things like extremely limited sleep darts.
crystal forum
that it came out so long ago
summer mural
dont put folks to sleep
its easier to be stealthy if you just leave them untouched
ghost basically
crystal forum
dishonored was so ahead of its time
summer mural
except for the necessary guys
opaque coyote
its easier to be stealthy if you just leave them untouched
Yeah
But also I want that fucking rune
crystal forum
actually that was pretty much the golden era of stealth wasnt it
assassins creed was good at that point
splinter cell
opaque coyote
Tbf, again, this is partially due to a personal skill issue.
But in my opinion, Dishonored 2 has better gameplay for both pacifist and not pacifist.
crystal forum
metro to a certain extent
opaque coyote
The ability to do more non-lethal takedowns is fun.
summer mural
the only ac's ive truly liked and I mean did kinda love playing through them were ac 2, brotherhood and ac4, all the others aint as good as those imo
opaque coyote
Especially from the air.
crystal forum
actually metro 2033 is unironically a good stealth game
opaque coyote
Also I can carry more than 5 sleep darts.
Dishonored 2 has a lesser story in my opinion though.
summer mural
dishonored 2 is good, but I think it has flaws 1 doesnt, its like 9/10 for me 1 is 10/10
crystal forum
i should probably finish 2 lol
opaque coyote
Like Dishonored 1's was simple, but it is actually interesting to see the fully detailed consequences
crystal forum
i kinda got bored
summer mural
yeah 2 has huge maps
you can get lost
pretty easily and forget what you were supposed to be doing
opaque coyote
yeah 2 has huge maps
2 is actually fun playing pacifist.
There's more options
crystal forum
haha so true emmesh-aiye
opaque coyote
I do dislike how big the maps are though
sour hornet
especially 2033
summer mural
I think metro series are correctly rated tbh, people love em
crystal forum
i play the original 2033
opaque coyote
But also
Drop takedowns
crystal forum
because im hard like that
summer mural
also mgs 5 has the best stealth gameplay and overall gameplay in a stealth game ive played
sour hornet
My cousin bought me Dishonored 1 & 2 and I literally just never played tjem
opaque coyote
also mgs 5 has the best stealth gameplay and overall gameplay in a stealth game ...
"Boss these are just kids do- and that's why you're the boss!"
opaque coyote
My cousin bought me Dishonored 1 & 2 and I literally just never played tjem
You should
Genuinely fun
summer mural
the amount of reactivity the mg5 stealth has and the amount of tactical options you get is pretty good
opaque coyote
I do genuinely think Dishonored is the only game series that truly encapsulates why evil is so attractive to the ambitious.
crystal forum
dishonored lets you be a filthy rat gremlin
sour hornet
also mgs 5 has the best stealth gameplay and overall gameplay in a stealth game ...
Bro singlehandedly eliminating a base one-by-one and listening to them panick in authentic Russian is so kino