40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Yeah maybe a passing mention or just having them in the background

Like idk the Inquistor has deathwatch around for a briefing

[arctic talon]

Evil and intimidating marine

[opaque coyote]

Basically

[rocky gale]

Like your players will probably struggle to fight a cultist with a shiv

[opaque coyote]

It would also be good to represent the scale between the Inquistor and the players

The Inquistor with two SM guards

Meanwhile they're somewhere in the depths of a hive

[rocky gale]

Dark Heresy also doesn't have rules for giving your Inquisitor stats, because the Inquisitor just wins

[arctic talon]

Early game in dark heresy is always hilarious

lol

Late game is hilarious but in the opposite direction

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

Also I know the Inquistor generally doesn't give orders unless if they're actually close.

But I might just do it. But similar to Darktide, their face is censored and it's through a screen

[rocky gale]

Different FFG system but Edge of the Empire has similar situations early game where it's like you somehow cake walk a tough fight against a jedi with a lightsaber while you're using a stun baton, then 2 sessions later get both your arms cut off by a random homeless man with a vibroknife

[opaque coyote]

Maybe have the one shot be a basic

"clear out a chaos cultist base"

[arctic talon]

Imperium maledictum is funny because you always get treated as the best of the worst

[rocky gale]

Remember my Edge of the Empire character basically just ending up without any of her original limbs, blind, brain damaged and face melted by acid and still living because I never rolled high enough on the Wound table.

[opaque coyote]

I am gonna sound exactly like somebody with a rainbow dash body pillow that weighs 500 lbs

but reddit is the only social media I actively use

I just like it more

[arctic talon]

Jesus Christ that’s the worst instance of that I’ve ever heard of lol

[opaque coyote]

than the others?

Thinking of making a bluesky account tho

Like it's still awful, but Reddit is a familiar type of awful

[urban spire]

bluesky is ok, you will see a LOT of TD&A though

[opaque coyote]

td&a?

[arctic talon]

okay we have a hard confirmation of Arcanes ending time from riot now

[urban spire]

i'm no prude but sometimes it's like damn i didn't come here for this

[arctic talon]

Its concurrent with the Noxian trifarax coup

Which is really fucking funny

[urban spire]

nude human bodies

[opaque coyote]

oh

eh

They have an nsfw filter

right?

[urban spire]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

should be alright then

I usually just look at memes and art anyways

[rocky gale]

I got blinded the first time in a lightsaber duel with a Master Jedi, I got hit in the face with his saber. Then like 5 sessions later got blinded 3 times in the same fight because Alien slugs kept spitting acid on my face and I kept rolling "Blinded"

[urban spire]

but all the good posters are marked nsfw imo

[arctic talon]

Jesus

[opaque coyote]

just like reddit

got it

[vagrant fox]

EOTE games are fun, my last game fell through because a guys computer died 😔

[arctic talon]

Rip

[rocky gale]

It got to the point where my character had to get like fake skin and eye contacts to hide how horribly disfigured they were when she was visiting her family

[vagrant fox]

Horribly maimed characters are fun, some of the crit tables in Dark Heresy are popping

[arctic talon]

Being horribly maimed in dark heresy is an upside if you’re a mechanicus freak

lol

[vagrant fox]

I do miss my Mando who set out fresh and babyfaced and coming home to his clan two limbs down and full of cybernetic organs

[arctic talon]

My smuggler in EOTE was missing half his original body by the time he died

lol

[vagrant fox]

Occupational hazards, it builds character

I never did get to go full freak mode as a mechanicus in the 40k TTRPGs, those games always died early. The trouble of online games

[rocky gale]

With Rogue Trader I just started off full freak mode

Imagine SHODAN and The Master (Fallout) merged together in the fragmented mind of a person who was forcefully turned into a Skitarii

[paper haven]

Sounds like a very stable and reliable operative

[rocky gale]

We had two Tech priests in our group and the DM ruled that despite regaining consciousness I still had a limiter in my brain that prevented me from harming them, to explain why I wouldn't just murder the pair of them.

[languid meadow]

I missed the DH nutshell convo fuckk

[arctic talon]

He’s fun btw as a character

[rose thorn]

HAHWVEWJVEWKVEQKVEJSVAJBE

LMAO

[outer wave]

That response tweet was funny

[storm jungle]

as ever my vindication is always apparent when people with space marine pfps do this shit

[sacred ginkgo]

Murdering only prisoners is pretty high up the space marine morals meter

You could be murdering civilians

You could even be murdering allied forces

[storm jungle]

if only

[outer wave]

I wish that Ultramarine killed his own battle brothers

[sacred ginkgo]

GW please release the friendly fire statistics for guard regiments accompanied by marines versus not

[outer wave]

So he could idk drink their blood for the emperor or something

[humble shoal]

on tabletop can guardsman do le friendly fire

[sacred ginkgo]

Only with like plasma overheat rules or something I think

I think Kharn is one of the only models that can do FF

[humble shoal]

commisars?

[sacred ginkgo]

That's if Perils triggers

Which isn't really FF cause they're already dead

[humble shoal]

I see

[sacred ginkgo]

It just prevents the unit from taking like 3d6 mortal or whatever

Ah nevermind

10e is different

[arctic talon]

There's some stuff

Fire on my position is a thing

and so is comissars summary execution

lol

[humble shoal]

opponent cant kill my models if I kill them myself

[arctic talon]

Stormtroopers only

but its funny

[humble shoal]

dang

tbh their should be an oppoisite version of summary execution

fragging

[arctic talon]

also the other one

[lament shoal]

lmfao "shut up loser."

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I can imagine it depends on the chapter

Like I imagine Iron Hands, UM, the less "I fucking hate you and I want you to die" and more pragmatic chapters

Would likely try to keep friendly fire at minimum

The more asshole chapters? Definitely not lmao

"Bro you should have gotten out of the way."

• Minotaur

Would also imagine Grey Knights to be a part of that club

[lament shoal]

Marines Malevolentcore

They'd level an orphanage if it meant killing the single grot hiding inside

They're such assholes that no loyalist chapter wants to admit to being connected to their lineage lmao

[arctic talon]

The Marines malevolent are so fucking funny lol

[opaque coyote]

Literally just an opportunity for the author to be like

"Okay, how many war crimes can I put in?"

[arctic talon]

sad they didn't get a sculpted pauldron

in the new Deathwatch box lol

but the Lame-enters

got one

okay that joke was awful

[lament shoal]

A small group of them were so angry and spiteful about the Salamanders chapter master Tu'shan beating up one of their captains that THEY ALLIED WITH CHAOS MARINES AND DRUKHARI TO INVADE NOCTURNE

[arctic talon]

Source?

genuinely

I've not read this

[lament shoal]

The salamanders omnibus, in the third and final novel titled "Nocturne."

[arctic talon]

I must have forgotten this

[opaque coyote]

Checked Lexicanum

There is mention of Malevolent going to Nocturne to face off against the Salamanders

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah I remember now lmao

The Drukhari were not involved directly with that one

they just were attacking as well

Anyways

I need to purge my mind of Kyme shit again

[opaque coyote]

I don't think there is mention of them allying with CSMs also?

[arctic talon]

damn igneans

[lament shoal]

Yeah they attacked Promethius while the rest went to Nocturne

[arctic talon]

thats because Prometheus doesn't have igneans

[lament shoal]

They did, the leader of the chaos warband hired them

[opaque coyote]

...wow okay

[lament shoal]

Granted he was planning on disposing of them immediately after lmfao

Some Kroot were also hired as well

[lament shoal]

That was probably the only thing I didn't like about the book, the fact that Tsu'gan's Iron Warriors level pettiness towards Dakir was never resolved despite everything

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

some people can't be changed

Tsu'gan is just a petty racist piece of shit

[lament shoal]

I just feel like space marines, especially the salamanders, would be above stupid shit like that. But grimdark ig 🤷‍♂️

[arctic talon]

its not grimdark, Tsu'gan was just that sort of person before he joined

becoming a salamander does not automatically make someone nice

even if the culture of the chapter encourages it, you can still just be a prick

There's nothing grimdark about Tsu'gan there's so many people like him in real life

in that regard

[lament shoal]

Idk ig I just hadn't seen that level of animosity between loyalist space marines who are on the same side. I was used to the whole image of "unbreakable brotherhood" that they tend to have

[arctic talon]

tbh it shows up in more in rulebooks

but sometimes marines just fucking hate each other lol

Its a lot rarer in novels since novels want to play into the "fantasy" of a faction often

[lament shoal]

Gotcha

[arctic talon]

Asmodai saying he'd kill anyone who smiles, laughs or talks about anything aside from warfare for a month still goes crazy lol

[lament shoal]

Maybe tts wasn't so far off on its representation of him...

[arctic talon]

oh asmodai is a total fucking psychopath lol

He's deeply unwell

such wonderful quotes as
"All souls cry out for salvation. There is no salvation without suffering."

[opaque coyote]

TTS Asmodai is less insane than the actual thing

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

he actually listens to Azreal in TTS

which he uh

doesn't in 40k

[lament shoal]

Ik there's that artwork of him dragging off an ultramarine for interrogation, but idk if its official or fan made

[arctic talon]

its fan art

but asmodai would lol

this is Asmodai's favorite tool btw

[opaque coyote]

Wtf does the mercy switch actually do

[lament shoal]

Would it be safe to assume The Lion would not be pleased by how he acts?

[opaque coyote]

I assume it's a prod

And the switch is to turn it off so that it can just be used to kill you

[arctic talon]

He approves, he just sends Asmodai any rejects of redemption

Asmodai for his part

Does not care

[opaque coyote]

Lion is insane also

Just less

[arctic talon]

He’s just happy torturing people horrifically lol

[arctic talon]

It expands the blades and then turns on the power field

In that order

[opaque coyote]

Makes sense

[arctic talon]

Asmodai isn’t the only interrogator chaplain still torturing people

He’s just the most famous one

There’s one who’s all introspective wondering how many innocent fallen he’s killed

Asmodai literally does not give a shit how many innocents he has killed nor does he care how many more he does

All in service to the Lion

he’s also extremely good at fighting

[opaque coyote]

"...how many were innocent? Did they truly deserve what I gave them? What circumstances did they have that made them fall?"

weak aura

Vs

"I LOVE TORTURING PEOPLE YEAAAAAAAA-"

STRONG AURA

[surreal nest]

Apologies if stupid question but does the Black Legion typically get along with the other main 4 chaos god legions?

[arctic talon]

Generally speaking not the best

[lament shoal]

I remember Abbadon being annoyed with having to lead some world eaters because of how unruly they were lmao

[arctic talon]

The black legion have huge egos

[spare osprey]

He’d rather have his hand cut off than see cypher die before he tortures him

[arctic talon]

If members of those legions swear fealty and join then yes

[spare osprey]

It’s insane

[lament shoal]

Chaos legions generally have strained relationships with each other

[surreal nest]

Would they willingly work together in close proximity?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Though they also might try killing each other

Depending on the situation/warbands present

[lament shoal]

Case in point, the emperor's children and world eaters

[surreal nest]

I only ask because I have a bunch of traitor guard for either nurgle or tzeentch and I got curious if a black legion chaos marine would ever be on their side

[lament shoal]

Kharn HATES them

[spare osprey]

There’s literally a short story and the whole thing is just Asmodai torturing a black legion dude

Not even a fallen

Just a random black legion schmuck

[arctic talon]

yeah, though they might be a bit racist towrds them

as the black legion is built on the idea of astartes supremacy

racist is the wrong word

just supremacist ig

they get along fine with mortals

they just think they're better™

[lament shoal]

Arrogance

[summer mural]

black legion during HH is cool

[surreal nest]

Thats actually so interesting I had no idea about that

[spare osprey]

Chosen of chaos

[arctic talon]

Yeah arrogant as well

I do love how fucking evil Asmodai's new mini looks lol

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes

Look at how friendly he looks

[spare osprey]

The smoke adds so much aura to the thing

[opaque coyote]

Wouldn't you want to give him a hug?

[surreal nest]

Insane model

[spare osprey]

I also enjoy that they’re using heresy mini designs in 40k stuff

[summer mural]

sons of horus should ideally be a very competent and capable space marine legion, and they actually make them that for the most part during heresy, they arent always falling apart like average chaos grunt smh

[spare osprey]

Like that fallen helmet

[lament shoal]

I remember Kharn mentioning he respects the white scars as opposed to the emperor's children, whom he never liked

[arctic talon]

tbf the EC also worship slaanesh now

[lament shoal]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

so that doubles down lol

Kharn didn't like them bcs of the ego originally

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

He was right about that front.

[summer mural]

also this is like...kharn..hes not known for cooperation

[lament shoal]

I feel like the chaos gods rivaling each other themselves only amplifies the animosity between the chaos legions

[opaque coyote]

What are you talking about, he's a swell guy!

[spare osprey]

Idk azrael and kharn seemed to work just fine lmao

Just gotta put a nerd between em

[summer mural]

yeah if kharn hasnt killed something in the last 30 minutes, good luck

[opaque coyote]

Kharn's hate chart:

1. Egotistical assholes
2. Nerds
3. Everyone else

[winter vessel]

i used to think the blue skull tassel was his hair

[lament shoal]

OMG ITS HATSUNE MIKU!!!!!!

[spare osprey]

Really good story also because it tells us that the dark angels have lists of daemons true names

Hell yeah

FUCK CHAOS

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

I just realized that his plasma pistol is also daemonic looking

Honestly thought it was just regular

[lament shoal]

RAAAAAAAAAH

[spare osprey]

Azrael speaks the name of a Tzeentch daemon and freezes him, then leaves him for kharn

Book ends with the daemon begging kharn not to kill him

[opaque coyote]

...

[summer mural]

dark angels smh

[opaque coyote]

Wait does Kharn have a way to permanently kill daemons

Or is he literally just so brutal that it makes daemons piss themselves

[spare osprey]

No it’s just this daemon will get punished if he fails, because this whole thing is a bet between Tzeentch and Khorne

[opaque coyote]

...

Nah yeah that Daemon is definitely getting evaporated from existence

RIP

[spare osprey]

I also remember a part in the book

With kharn and he’s slowing going towards azrael’s position and there are black legion dudes in the way

And one is like “YO KHARN REMEMBER ME WE FOUGHT TOGETHER ON TERRA”

And he just fuckin kills him, and he adds another to his kill tally

[opaque coyote]

Swell guy

[spare osprey]

Real carebear

[lament shoal]

Tzeentch throwing that daemon to Slaanesh be oiled up by a bunch of daemonettes

The daemon:

[winter vessel]

so he just kills a guy that wanted to reminisce on the old days?

[spare osprey]

Yeeeep

[lament shoal]

Yup. Kharn don't care

[summer mural]

kharn is barely lucid

hes into going " RAHAARGGHAHRHG SKULLS, BLOOD , KILL MAIM, BURN!!'

[lament shoal]

Its stated that the only thing preventing him from becoming like Angron is his kill counter lmao

[arctic talon]

I do think its hilarious Kharn's plasma pistol in lore is just called

"Kharns plasma pistol"

[winter vessel]

alright, so then i can post what I assume is the PG visualization of said events

https://youtu.be/dYoZcXIycuk?si=MLanVTNz9-oUAtrW

[arctic talon]

It also isn't even the same fucking plasma pistol

its been replaced at least 3 times

[opaque coyote]

"Only a fool takes Khârn for a mindless brute or rabid dog. Under that blood-soaked helm lurks an intelligence and cunning that makes him a masterful killer - trust me when I say that there is a dark purpose in his madness. "
-the despoiler

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

He is actually fairly lucid half the time

[summer mural]

hes a sound combatant

[opaque coyote]

Although it also depends on the author

Because

Fuck you

[summer mural]

also part of his rage is just berserker nails and being devoted to khorne putting them under immense pain , and the only relief they get is through combat and bloodletting

they really need to kill

[opaque coyote]

Tbf that barely matters to him anymore

It's mostly just Khorne

And also to rack up his kill counter

The funniest part is that he has overflowed it many times

[arctic talon]

The world eater chaos lord

[opaque coyote]

I believe

[arctic talon]

not part of the world eaters

is still funny as shit

as in his geneseed

[opaque coyote]

Basically, he is equivalent to a traveling monk

[summer mural]

well

[opaque coyote]

Spreading the word of his god

[summer mural]

they dont call him the betrayer for nothing

[opaque coyote]

Out of personal commitment

...

[summer mural]

believe it or not, its not because he betrayed the imperium

[opaque coyote]

It's just that spreading the word of his God is literally just murder

[spare osprey]

FOUND IT

[summer mural]

man had to kill so badly he killed his warband

[spare osprey]

This is gonna take forever to load

[opaque coyote]

In a cruel way, he might be considered a Bodhisattva, basically a person who delays/forgoes his own personal ascension to help others reach buddhahood

[lament shoal]

Me when the nails are biting:

[opaque coyote]

Shit like the 8 fold path is also a core teaching in Buddhism as well.

And Kharn? He is somebody who wants to spread the word of his God.

[winter vessel]

This is great

[opaque coyote]

A Bodhisattva of skulls and blood

[summer mural]

kharn isnt spreading the word of anyone, there are better examples of those guys, all he does is look for a fight to get into, hes practically an ork

[spare osprey]

Also kharn is Russian in this

Which is interesting

[opaque coyote]

And isn't that exactly what Khorne embodies?

Nothing but the fight

The blood

The skull taking

He is the best representation

[lament shoal]

KHORNE CARES NOT FROM WHERE THE BLOOD FLOWS

[opaque coyote]

In a sense, intentionally trying to spread Khorne's word is missing the point

[lament shoal]

Yeah he's not a preachy chaos god like the other 3

[spare osprey]

I feel like the most religious you see world eaters be is with their cultists

Giving them their blood

[opaque coyote]

His Bible isn't bound on paper but instead flesh.

Written not with ink but with blood.

And prayer not with heart but with skulls

[summer mural]

the death guard and typhus are pretty cool as a unit

[lament shoal]

Schtinky

[spare osprey]

Lowk

Idea

[winter vessel]

Khorne. the only chaos god i wouldn't mind dying to. The green one will give me an enhanced version of psoriasis as a gift, the blue one will turn me inside out just for their curiosity of it, and the Purple one will say "I'll be gentle" after they already put it in an orifice. every orifice.

[spare osprey]

World eater version of that black grail dude, has a group of cultists who follow him to partake in his blood

[winter vessel]

ah yes, the new Prime flavor

[opaque coyote]

To be fair.

That is their gentle

Very gentle in fact

[winter vessel]

fair nuff

[opaque coyote]

They haven't even started yet

All I can say is...

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-sad-cat-true-morgan-freeman-gif-2550818640546449257

[opaque coyote]

"Goth girls be like"

[summer mural]

since death guard mostly fight in cohesion compared to like..world eaters, the body horror thing is cool, having different buffs from nurgle is cool, poxwalkers are very cool, also spreading various plagues that can make populations do literally anything, including singing and dancing before dying horribly are nice and on top of that they get gardens, which as a concept is nice since you get like a visual feast of a pus riddled, diseased landscape thats its actually interesting to look at

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/qw_aBVjVMmk?si=Ekq9ETKLkGz7CGAG

[winter vessel]

the "Magic the Gathering Players" legion

[lament shoal]

As a Kibellah enjoyer, yeah

[summer mural]

its also why nurgle is popular for videogame designs

[opaque coyote]

Very few video games with Khorne in them for some reason

At least from the top of my mind

No idea why either

[lament shoal]

This fucking frame lmao

[opaque coyote]

No thoughts

Head empty

[summer mural]

you have the visual diversity of nurgle gardens for the environment and plaguemarines, slow moving beefy units, fast moving trash units, massive variety of buffs available to all the nurgle units in the form of plague blessings, massive variety of debuffs available to their opponents in the form of plagues and all the usual machines and monster stuff

and your plot can be almost anything with the conceit of diseases being able to do anything

[opaque coyote]

Plague Marines are still just as fast in lore.

Which is funny to me

[lament shoal]

They move faster when threatened with soap

[summer mural]

point is, if you make them slow, its not a problem, its all possible with nurgle

[opaque coyote]

Kinda makes sense given that

I don't think they would care about things like

Muscle damage

Or

[winter vessel]

the visual diversity of Slaanesh's domain...

[opaque coyote]

Being tired in any way

[opaque coyote]

Hey HEY HEY!

There's white as well...

Honestly the one thing that I question about Slaaneshi designs is why the daemonettes have

BIG. MEATY. CLAWS.

I did once make a joke about how Carcanization is the path to perfection though

[summer mural]

khorne is used in some games

problem is khorne just comes down to bumrushing you everytime, which is fine , but its not as interesting as nurgle

[opaque coyote]

I think Berserkers are a thing in DoW.

[summer mural]

you fight massive hordes of bloodletters in sm1

[opaque coyote]

I mean the problem is that Khorne is more generally about war as well.

You could also have a blood red flesh motif similar to like

Scorn

[summer mural]

and bloodletters are functionally just capable of being that , dude with sword

[winter vessel]

scorn mentioned

[summer mural]

whereas mixing in poxwalkers with like, the disease spraying garden hose guardsmen is nice

[opaque coyote]

Also I do actually unironically wish we could fight Slaaneshi enemies.

Just force them to cover their nipples it's fine

[lament shoal]

NAH UNCOVER THEM THINGS

[summer mural]

khorne would be great in a game thats oriented well toward melee combat, it has a nice soulslike fast paced skill based combat system

[lament shoal]

Huh who said that?

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside, there are some cool designs.

I like Slaanesh Chaos Marine space designs

[lament shoal]

Noise marines are cool

[winter vessel]

if they did make A slaaneshi focused game, and if they had guts, they'd do it to the same capacity of AGONY in terms of visuals. That "game" was uh...something

[summer mural]

id like slaanesh more if it wasnt for lucius the eternal being a troll

[opaque coyote]

This one is just a Slaaneshi CSM

And honestly he looks fucking cool

The uneven pauldrons, the fucking vox face, etc.

[lament shoal]

To be fair if you had his powers you'd probably be a troll too lmao

[summer mural]

although I will say daemon fulgrim comes across as deadlier to me in terms of his track record compared to mortarion, angron and magnus

[winter vessel]

I'd imagine his chin fingers do the 🤔 when he's thinking and not actually use his hands, lol

[lament shoal]

Ngl its strange how we haven't gotten any official art of daemon Lorgar

[summer mural]

well

i make that comment here like every other day

[opaque coyote]

Honestly that sounds funny

Just imagine him flipping the bird

[summer mural]

must he die in like every appearance he makes, just to emphasize the point that he is eternal

[winter vessel]

both hands on hips, and then 🤔 with the chin appendages. or he does the closest to a face palm with them

[opaque coyote]

The sass levels are high

Seriously though there is a lot you can do with Slaanesh and it just

Just fucking sucks that there's very few video games with them as enemies.

Although that's probably due to all the nipples showing and the general sexual themes

[lament shoal]

Obligatory sassy nurgling mention

[summer mural]

slaanesh will always have the least representation

because of the overt sexual themes

[winter vessel]

a SIMS style game focusing on Slaanesh

[lament shoal]

Gw is afraid about losing money

Damn corps

[summer mural]

although its very nice sm2 gave us thousand sons instead of more khorne daemons

maybe sm3 will give us slaanesh idk

[summer mural]

im hoping its necrons, orks again and chaos

[lament shoal]

Would've been nice to have other tzeentch creatures besides the tzaangors tho

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and that's why I'm bummed out about it

[lament shoal]

Put screamers in the game

[winter vessel]

I want us to lose in that game. In the sense of, the slow takeover of chaos corruption of a Hive World. the end result being you have to evacuate.

[opaque coyote]

... honestly that would genuinely be interesting

Titus fails

He has to run

Actual danger and stakes

Wow

Novel idea

[summer mural]

id also be okay with no chaos in sm3 and 3 xenos races instead, but i feel like titus's special gimmick is tied to chaos, so its gonna be there again

[lament shoal]

I don't want this because then Leandros would never let Titus hear the end of it 😭

[winter vessel]

Think of Like, Halo Reach, best example at the top of my head. Overwhelming odds, losing battle, you get a "small" victory. you know you're gonna lose but still try to rack up the kill count

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf to Leandros

He is actually right currently.

He is just

Very very annoying

[summer mural]

halo reach levels of storytelling barely exist anymore, especially in first person shooters

i wouldnt expect it from sm3

[lament shoal]

Titus is built different tho, that should be obvious to him by now

[opaque coyote]

Although imagine the impact if the situation is so dire. Leandros doesn't insult Titus anymore.

Like

He just cooperates because shit is so FUBAR there's no time for chewing him out

[winter vessel]

someone i once played the campaign with spoke over Jun's "Welcome to Reach" and he said "you should drink bleach"

[lament shoal]

I imagine Calgar was pissed when he heard about Leandros selling Titus out to the inquisition

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, that is kinda the only thing he did wrong in that situation

Because Titus was mighty sus

[lament shoal]

Yeah he was supposed to go to the chaplain first

[winter vessel]

and you can't deny. Leandros was aura maxxing with his design for SM2 prior to his face reveal

[summer mural]

well he ought to be, they correctly wrote that in. titus is the captain of the 2nd company of ultramarines, thats like as high up as a spacemarine can get , he just got hauled away by the inqusition and the ultramarines didnt have the time to do anything about it when he did, so calgar correctly apologizes to him and tells hes been trying to get him back this whole time

[lament shoal]

But I think that was a good way to show the hypocrisy of his character. In his obsession with adherence to the codex, he ends up violating it instead

[lament shoal]

Tbh I want a chaplain class for the next game, would go hard

[winter vessel]

Maybe by SM3 Captain Acheran learns that he can spare more than 3 men...only for the plot twist to reveal he can now only spare 2 men

[summer mural]

this time its gonna be " its only me left" then hes gonna go the basement and come back wearing his terminator armor

[winter vessel]

Titus: "captain, i'll need a dozen to take on this stronghold" Acheran: "I can give you one krak grenade, no more, no less"

he limits him to ordnance now

[opaque coyote]

This is gonna sound something straight out of a fanfic, but fuck it.

Titus and Leandros run to the nearest transport before the planet initates exterminatus. As they arrive to the transport, they realize that there is only space for one.

Titus immediately shoves Leandros into there. Despite his constant suspicion, his oversight, and his insults. He still remembers the fresh face recruit back in SM1. In some weird way, he is almost proud of how Leandros gained so much experience, despite his attitude and mistakes.

As he closes the door, his last chance for salvation flying away into the black void of space. He turns towards the near endless horde of enemies.

Goal: Survive.

You have to play alone and shoot hordes of Chaos, Xenos, etc. endlessly. The stage ends early if you die, but there is also a timer.

Either way, it leads to the same result. A view of the planet being covered with flame.

[summer mural]

i bet sm3 is gonna have titus in terminator armor sequence

[lament shoal]

Weak Leandros aura:
"T-the stain of corruption n-never fades, Titus!"

STRONG CAPTAIN ACHERAN AURA:

"Lieutenant Titus, I want you kill a greater daemon all by yourself, and then go get me an ice cream."

[winter vessel]

I kinda want elements of vehicle combat. Hell i want to drive a Predator Tank for some mechanized gameplay

[summer mural]

i doubt titus is gonna pilot anything, but there might be vehicle combat idk

[winter vessel]

and for a little dash of extra drama, pan up shot to a Space marine Vessel performing Exterminatus

[summer mural]

im almost certain your gonna get terminator armor gameplay though

[opaque coyote]

As Leandros watches the planet be covered in flame. He finally whispers to himself.

"You are free from the stain of corruption. May the Emperor watch over your soul, Titus."

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/QXCGA-gjyx0?si=Qw6vruttPJEVcexK my standard.

[summer mural]

then a chestburster pops out of his chest and rips him open

[opaque coyote]

And walks away.

...

SPACE MARINE 4: LEANDROS BABYBEEE WEOOO

Actually

[summer mural]

an all time classic

[opaque coyote]

It would be mad funny if SM3 had Leandros as the protagonist

And Titus as a side character

Imagine if the devs locked in and made a god tier story with Leandros as the protagonist

I actually want that

[summer mural]

captain price hanging makarov from a glass ceiling and lighting a cigar after everyone he knows has been killed will never not be iconic

[lament shoal]

"This is for Soap."

[winter vessel]

a little nod I'd like to see. If there was a brief mention of Malum Caedo. So you're playing the campaign, you arrive in a room that is just filled with corpses of the enemy. Titus "Captain, has there been any detection of a squad entering this area?" Acheran: "reports coming in are saying one Astartes from the 1st Company was seen, but his orders require him elsewhere on the field"

[summer mural]

eh

[opaque coyote]

Imagine having a scene with Malum Caedo and he's mostly silent

[summer mural]

id have honestly liked malum caedo to be from another chapter, him being an ultramarine has absolutely no bearing on anything in boltgun, just give him some other chapter colors

[opaque coyote]

And then he responds with a line from the taunt button

Then he runs off

[winter vessel]

Wait wait wait. my one brain cell just sparked. The start of the campaign, Titus is preparing for an assault on the planet as a thunderhawk lands in the hangar. as the hatch opens you see a squad of Astartes, some wounded, disembarking. But the only one that's in full fighting capacity is Caedo and the two only nod as they pass by.

it reminds me of this opening scene of a movie called the Rundown where 'The Rock' is entering the club as Arnold S. is leaving and says "have fun"

[lament shoal]

This but with Caedo

[opaque coyote]

Yeah basically

Also would be funny if he did shit that would be typical for like

A video game character

Idk like teabagging constantly out of boredom

Moving around like a 3 year old with adhd and coffee

[lament shoal]

Space King type shit

Psycho warriors would teabag someone lmfao

[opaque coyote]

And also imagine if it happens in both the games as well just in different povs

You see a fucking pixelated version of Titus

[winter vessel]

let there be one cutscene of the Planetary Governor complaining about the "mishandling" of the situation by PDF, guard regiments, and the Ultramarines. Just so i can see Titus bitch slap them

[surreal nest]

Well I dont know for sure but I feel like the bolt-gun protagonist being an ultramarine makes the most sense considering its more or less a direct story tie in with space marine 1

[summer mural]

just make him any other chapter, you can tie it in regardless

[opaque coyote]

Kinda pointless tbh

He's just UM cause it's the poster boy faction

Honestly something that I do want is a boltgun side game or DLC where you play as a CSM

[summer mural]

like his colors have 0 bearing on the story and its because um are the poster boy faction, but you could have given some representation to some other chapter so easily

[surreal nest]

Well yeah without a doubt but I think someone being in the same chapter as Titus helps

[arctic talon]

tbh if they were red scorpions it would have bearing to the story

[winter vessel]

yeah,

[arctic talon]

or the red hunters

[opaque coyote]

I just wish that we got a dlc of Titus in his deathwatch days

[arctic talon]

both of those 2 are very cozy with the inqusition

[opaque coyote]

Also

Soft toast?

More like

Hard Bread

[summer mural]

could have just made him a blood angel or black templar tbh, blood angels love their melee combat and caedo is kinda black raged coded anyway

[winter vessel]

it ends right when they are dispatched to deploy the virus bomb on the tyranids as they board the aircraft

[opaque coyote]

Likely Disciple?

More like

Rare Heretic

[surreal nest]

I am in communication with an orbital laser on your location

[opaque coyote]

And finallt

Elite Wolf?

More like

Loser Cat

[summer mural]

peak brainrot

[opaque coyote]

Thoroughly roasted clearly

[summer mural]

[summer mural]

banned

[lament shoal]

Watching some Darktide gameplay and the OP's brawler ogryn drops a line saying "Am best ogryn!" Yes you are big man, yes you are

[opaque coyote]

Imagine Caedo pecking the floor like a bird

[summer mural]

why does caedo wear a white helmet again

[shadow plover]

veteran

[summer mural]

oh right veteran

[lament shoal]

He's first company, likely part of a veteran squad yeah

[summer mural]

and ..he has the laurels of victory?

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/-JrvfvTk6ms?si=RFeYTz6nVoRO3uPu

the Titus and Caedo dynamic

[opaque coyote]

As somebody with a skill issue

Caedo probably looks more like a SM scout

[summer mural]

well

[opaque coyote]

WHAT IF GUILLIMAN WAS BETRAYED AND KEPT IN A COMA FOR 10000 YEARS?

[summer mural]

he was sent by the inqusition as a sternguard veteran of the 1st company

[opaque coyote]

...wait that sound famil-

[summer mural]

along with his squad

several years after the events of sm1

so yeah literally any other chapter would work

[summer mural]

based

[summer mural]

titus is probably like, the happiest space marine of all time at the end of sm2

[opaque coyote]

Gulliman's blood makes every UM secretly good at paperwork

And of course any other UM based chapters

[lament shoal]

Every ultramarine remembers filing their first tax returns

[winter vessel]

The avenging bean counter

-Konni Kurze

[shadow plover]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Laurel
Also like 50% of Veteran squads models have them in the miniature kits

[arctic talon]

the generic captain has it

lol

wait my bad the captain with jump pack ahs it

lol

[shadow plover]

they look cool and it's neat they have a meaning but they're not really that rare when it comes to miniatures at least

[summer mural]

he looks good

[shadow plover]

the old sternguard and vanguard veteran squads had quite a few helmet options with them

[summer mural]

even though its kinda weird someone is wearing a jumppack with cloth on their back

[arctic talon]

the generic primaris LT has it lol

[summer mural]

so, titus.

[shadow plover]

similar to Caedo

[summer mural]

[arctic talon]

hey guys look its titus

In the top right

[summer mural]

titus doesnt have the sigma grindset to have ever been a sternguard

he probably got promoted because he killed 300 chaos terminators or something

[arctic talon]

oh yeah fun fact this dude is a dead body in SM2

or at least someone that looks suspciously similar

in the final portion

[celest dome]

||GW/CA are coward and won't have Titus fall to Chaos||

[shadow plover]

more like 4 dead bodies

[surreal nest]

What are the grey pipe things coming out of his ear and wrapping around his hammer on Obsidius Mallex

[shadow plover]

they all have the captain markings as well

[arctic talon]

That’s really funny I’m ngl

[winter vessel]

really? guess i never noticed. the only corpses i've seen are basic intercessors

[summer mural]

his hammer carries his music playlist as an auxiliary function, it feeds directly into his ear

[shadow plover]

I spent a good while in photo mode in that flag scene and found plenty of them, funny that the models aren't used anywhere else

[winter vessel]

its playing John Henry

[summer mural]

also

I saw the iron within

[arctic talon]

We still don’t have a gravis lt. Funnily enough

GW has skipped over it

Repeatedly

[summer mural]

i feel like the drukhari just got like

turned into scrubs

and got absolutely run over by the iron warriors

[arctic talon]

It is called iron within

[summer mural]

but like

that MANDRAKE GOT OUTSTEALTHED BY AN IRON WARRIOR

THAT MAKES NO SENSE

[arctic talon]

yeah I agree it’s dumb

[shadow plover]

mandrakes also get the scrub treatment in Rogue Trader

such pushovers

[lament shoal]

To be fair the rt is just that guy

[winter vessel]

any instance of those deldar bastards getting killed always brings me joy

[opaque coyote]

IRON WITHIN
IRON WITHOUT

RAAHAAHHHH

[arctic talon]

The mandrakes are kinda scary in one instance

[lament shoal]

Dude can fight space marines and win if you build him that way

[arctic talon]

But every one in RT just falls over

To the player lol

I hope DH has the pendulum in the other direction to an extent slightly

But meh

Anyways mandrakes are hilarious

Them making night lords feel fear is still fun

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/9zHhsEXjqkM?si=TSf3nnULoC4fj8mm this honestly helps me push my rep count on a bench press everytime i listen

[lament shoal]

Kinda crazy that the ecclesiarchy is reluctant to state that the RT is a living saint if you go dogmatic, given the feats he performs

[arctic talon]

Don’t want to start a religious schism I’d assume

Drussus is super popular

[opaque coyote]

I mean living saint shit includes stuff like

actually coming back from the dead

[summer mural]

Mandrakes are one of my fav units, they got done so dirty smh

[arctic talon]

Also yeah the RT wouldn’t qualify as a living saint

[shadow plover]

you can do that though

[arctic talon]

They’d have to die

To become a normal Saint

[winter vessel]

I like to picture it as like a Consuela "no no no" instead of angry denial

[arctic talon]

The RT hasn’t died(yet)

[shadow plover]

well he can die and return to living, canonically

[arctic talon]

Which instance

I forgor

[shadow plover]

At the haemonculus cave

[arctic talon]

Oh

That doesn’t count

[lament shoal]

The RT gets body switched with another person through Tzeentch fuckery and lives, and can also perform miracles like reciting a prayer to stop Uralon's ritual and even WEAKEN him

[arctic talon]

It needs to be like

The body just does that shit on its own

[shadow plover]

well not for being a saint but it still happens

[arctic talon]

And it needs to be confirmed and stuff

But yeah you’re correct

[lament shoal]

Also surviving Commorragh PLUS slaughtering every drukhari on the way out is some saint type shit too

[arctic talon]

Tbf you have help

[summer mural]

the ending of exodite is absolutely wild

speaking of commorragh

[shadow plover]

no spoilers beyond act 4 please

[arctic talon]

The reaving tempest was already on Vect’s shitlist

[opaque coyote]

living saint...

or just plot armor

[lament shoal]

Lets be real he could totally do that on his own tho

[arctic talon]

And nocturne helps you

[arctic talon]

Main character energy says yes

[lament shoal]

Spiky

[arctic talon]

My favorite inner city

[summer mural]

yes

that ending

[winter vessel]

kinda reminds me of Titan AE

[summer mural]

getting teleported to commorragh from your homeworld is kinda

well its funny

also death jesters, like mandrakes are one of my fav units and it was nice watching that exodite turn into one

do dark reapers use shrieker cannons

[arctic talon]

Nah

They use normal shuriken cannons or rocket launchers

Only Maugen Ra uses a shrieker cannon

[summer mural]

dont death jesters use shrieker cannons

[arctic talon]

Yeah

I meant for dark reapers

That Maugen Ra is the only dark reaper that uses one

[summer mural]

death jesters kinda fight like maugen ra too, and he used one, and death jesters use one

[lament shoal]

[summer mural]

but dark reapers dont

although to be fair

I guess dark reapers do use their missile launchers

since they are anti armor too

[lament shoal]

Just realized what ur username is, based

[arctic talon]

Yeah dark reapers like their missile launchers

[summer mural]

the white boots on this belial model are doing something for me ngl

[arctic talon]

https://www.gameshound.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/99120104068_AELDarkReapersLead.webp

They’re bad to the bone

[summer mural]

belials look more like the chapter master here than azrael

[celest dome]

Speaking of Eldars, Corsairs and Rangers aren't faster than human are right ?

[lament shoal]

I've always loved hoods on space marines

[summer mural]

dark angels aesthetic is suitably unique yeah

they love their cloth over power armor

[arctic talon]

They are lore wise faster then normal humans

[lament shoal]

Ngl that watcher banner looks like it could be artwork on some heavy metal poster lmao

[arctic talon]

Eldar are literally just better for physically capabilities

[lament shoal]

Sick

[arctic talon]

They’re faster, more durable, stronger

[summer mural]

yeah that belial model i like more and more the more I look at it

[arctic talon]

The one exception is for healing from severe muscle damage

Due to how their muscles were designed by the old ones evolved

Due to how compressed they are injury to them takes much longer to heal because they literally decompress

[celest dome]

Someone was arguing that Eldar in Darktide wouldn't work, first due to PoV, and then due to that, and saying that Kerillian is a bad representation of Wood Elves

[arctic talon]

Meh

Gameplay abstractions are fine

Kerellian is a perfectly fine representation for what Fatshark wants from their game

[celest dome]

The only issues for an Eldar imo is the weapon acquisition

[arctic talon]

The one part that’s not wood elfy about her is how unracist she is/hj

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Because it would be really weird to get from brunt and upgrade and hadron lol

[summer mural]

eldar class would be lame af

[sacred ginkgo]

Everyone except like loner and brawler or something threatening to kill them every conversation

[summer mural]

i prefer admech themed or navy breacher

[celest dome]

Navy breacher has so little potential

Like it's just Vet with heavier armour

[summer mural]

issok, give them shield and rotary cannon

[arctic talon]

But like if Fatshark wanted to do eldar there’s nothing stoping them moment to moment gameplay wise really

Tbh

[shadow plover]

we should get a hrud character if something

[sacred ginkgo]

We should have a deathmark so we can make plasma look like a laser pointer

[arctic talon]

lol

[summer mural]

admech is very obvious choice, whether or not it happens, I am 100% sure fatshark has heavily considered it or are working on it

[arctic talon]

Synaptic disintegrator would go fucking crazy

[sacred ginkgo]

Cutting a crusher in half with your boot knife

[summer mural]

the teleportation is the craziest part

deathmark can just hop around the battlefield at will

[celest dome]

I don't think we will see us have more than 8 classes in total, but if we go to 8.
I think it'll be something Admech, something Sororitas, and something Eldar (due to teased narrative)

[arctic talon]

Advanced 10,000 IQ hyperspace oubliette tech

[shadow plover]

If we actually see any real eldar presence I doubt it'll be anything else than an eldar mission giver

[sacred ginkgo]

Add genestealers as a playable class

[summer mural]

i think admech themed, ganger or criminal themed or navy breacher are the likely ones

and i think eldar will just have story presence and not gameplay one

[arctic talon]

I agree

I don’t think they’ll be playable as much as I’d like it

[celest dome]

Don't think Gangers and Navy have enough to really make them intona class imo

Some of their stuff could be used on current ones though (already is the case for Ganger

[summer mural]

they can manage tbh , if you told me zealot was gonna be a playable class next id have said the same thing

[celest dome]

Well depend, if a lot of things that the Zealot have in lore was covered by already present stuff sure

Like cosmetics have already taken from Munda's gangers, we've got a couple of weapons from them too

[summer mural]

ganger cosmetics have infinite potential

looking at all the zealot and psyker cosmetics, im pretty sure fs can manage ganger ones on comparable level

[celest dome]

Cawdor has been used by Zealot, Orlock by Veteran, and Goliath by Ogryn

[summer mural]

breacher is most limited gameplay wise, for weapons theyve got like, rotary cannon? shields?

[celest dome]

Delague should be used by Psyker

Van Saar, by Admech

Esher if it can be used, would have to be a woman only class, hence Sister I guess

Aren't I missing one of the House

[shadow plover]

Ironhead Prospectors

though not a house per se

(I think)

[celest dome]

They have the Endurant shield, otherwise we've seen shield on Guardsmen with the Blooded Kill Team (Trenchsweeper)

[arctic talon]

You got them all

[summer mural]

oh yeah endurants

yeah only true unique there kinda is endurant shields and rotary cannons

afaik

[arctic talon]

Go my gheistskull

[summer mural]

oh and that

[daring creek]

Who're the good guys in 40k

[summer mural]

no one

[celest dome]

Gheistskull are also used by the Admech lorewise, I could see them be moved to them

[arctic talon]

No one, pick your favorite awful people

[summer mural]

all the factions are terrible folk

[arctic talon]

Yeah but they’re more breacher coded imo

[summer mural]

imperium being among the worst

[celest dome]

While yes, I don't think Breacher should happen

[arctic talon]

I agree

[celest dome]

Gheistskull as an Admech Keystone

[arctic talon]

Admech grenade

[daring creek]

Are you sure? The Imperium looks pretty good. I mean the Servitors seem happy. Almost none of them complain

[arctic talon]

True my bad

[summer mural]

servitors are the peak of human flourishing yes

[arctic talon]

The children are all employed as well

[daring creek]

Insneed

[shadow plover]

the medicae servitor doesn't seem to be having a good time

[daring creek]

anyway do yall know any good audiobooks

[daring creek]

He just needs some tweaks

[shadow plover]

Twice Dead King 1 and 2

[arctic talon]

Watcher in the rain

Assasinorum kingmaker

[celest dome]

Maybe as sub node for a Guardian skull

[arctic talon]

Fatshark give the ogryn a las cannon

It’ll be funny

[summer mural]

admech theme has lots of potential

can do bounty hunter type too

i hope they do skitarii instead of a tech acolyte or adept of some kind

[arctic talon]

A holy crusader of the omnissiah or a low ranking priest

I’d like either

Just because I’m a fan of admech

[summer mural]

it seems like its everyones best guess for the next class tbh

something admech

as long as they give me arc rifles idm

and phosphor revolvers

[celest dome]

Only War allow it

[celest dome]

Why so ?

The vaguer the better imo, let them grab anything they may want

[sacred ginkgo]

Skitarii would be vet 2

Tech adept lets you do 3 trees from different philosophies and specializations in the mechanicus

Generic ad mech for middle, biologis for right, and electro priest stuff for left

[celest dome]

Imo Biologis is not something they should on

[sacred ginkgo]

Why not

[celest dome]

What would you do for blitz/ability... for them

[summer mural]

its true tech adept or tech acolyte is less restrictive and gives them more options, but skitarii are just cooler

[sacred ginkgo]

Ability is a buff injection, blitz is a harmful gas grenade

The injection lets you target at short ish range like Warrior Priest and gives stats comperable to like lightly stacked scriers or something

[celest dome]

Skitarii line (Ranged focus)
Servitor controller line (Summoner per se)
Secutor/Sicarius (Melee focus)

[celest dome]

But would end up accessible as cosmetics, and possibly even personality

[summer mural]

well if they do proper skitaari cosmetics then sure

like

i dont even know what the plan is for arbitrator cosmetics

are they even gonna give arby free ones in the commissary

[celest dome]

Dunno

[sacred ginkgo]

Throw stuff at a GW employee’s email until they get a pass

[celest dome]

Might be due to dlc situst

Or that they didn't wanted to have leaks so hadn't sent the information to the subcontractors till the Arbi released

[summer mural]

yeah but

arent arbitrators like

limited in cosmetic scope

[sacred ginkgo]

A bit

[summer mural]

like theres already a total red reskin of the current paid cosmetic for arby

i bet theres a red reskin of the premium dlc skin too

also, they have already lost a tonne of potential money tbh

because they should have released a new skin for arby through commodores vestures by now, people gobble up this stuff around new dlc time

[celest dome]

I still hope we get dlc branches for the trees

Want a Crusader one for the Zealot

[summer mural]

all I have left to watch are blacktalon and interrogator

broken lance was ..okay, the storytelling and plot was decent ish, but the animation smh

combat animation was pretty bad

[summer mural]

goddamn

the interrogator series is really good so far

its up there for sure

[storm jungle]

its one of my favs i think

Id suggest watching the complete full movie-version of it though i think its still on the site

[summer mural]

yeah watching movie version

i saw the first 10 minutes and thought it was amazing

so Il save it for last

watching black talon first

[storm jungle]

very based

Blacktalon is also very good you just gotta know some rough contexts for AOS lol

[summer mural]

well

I know the stormcasts get reforged

also some of the ranks kinda

stormcast got a bunch of ranks

and all of them are dual named

like...knight azyros

[storm jungle]

Yeah worst case you can just lexicanum-search

so it should be fine lol

[summer mural]

guy with lantern

lord aquilor, guy with mount and is in charge

knight venator model is great though

[storm jungle]

Yeah stormcasts got lots of units lol

[celest dome]

Make sense that they had to trim it down

[summer mural]

damn

the animation in blacktalon is pretty good

but boy stormcast eternals sure do die a lot

makes you wonder how tf humanity was getting anything done in fantasy

[storm jungle]

They got the advantange of respawning

(and huge hammers)

the downside is indeed you lose a part of yourself each time, which is pretty awful when you think more than 10s about it

[summer mural]

so the way forging works

like if hanniver toll dies tomorrow, sigmar can decide to make him a stormcast right

unless nagash gets his soul first i guess

[storm jungle]

So

Nagash (due to falling out with Sigmar over the matter of souls when during the Era they were kicking Chaos' ass) has a dib on almost EVERYONES soul.

Stormcast are saved by Sigmar each time, but every one of those times Nagash takes a small sliver of your soul.

Its why while you will always return to Sigmar, by the time its happened dozens/several times you will literally be a husk

essentially ironically like a Space Marine

[summer mural]

Oh nagash takes it? I thought it was a flaw in sigmars process itself

[storm jungle]

Yeah nah he takes a sliver, thats the ultimate grimdark aspect of it

Sigmar cares for all Stormcasts, hes the reason they rise up as heroes as it is

he has actively sought countless solutions to the souldrain but its almost impossible

[summer mural]

so he tends to take heroes or whomever he finds worthy right

so he can make new stormcasts still ?

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly, anything from the smallest to the mightiest heroic act

you can die defending your village or some caravan etc, and if he sees your worthiness you'll rise up as a stormcast

its very great lore

[celest dome]

The fact that Nagash take part is a flaw in the process

[summer mural]

so hanniver toll and armand are gonna die and come back as stormcasts in their epilogues

[storm jungle]

Lmao not too unlikely

In the past sometimes even heavily corrupted followers/warriors of Chaos have become Stormcasts and repented what they've done

[celest dome]

There is a Stormcast that was a doctor that died while standing between his patients and a Chaos Warrior of Khorne, armed with only a Crutch

[storm jungle]

^

[summer mural]

unless nagash takes the soul first

[storm jungle]

its fucking peak

[celest dome]

And another that died when she was but a child

[summer mural]

wheres the felix stormcast

[celest dome]

And now has body dysphoria due to being an adult after being risen

[storm jungle]

He has a square in Azyr (the capital of Sigmarites) named after him

aside from that we dont know

[summer mural]

LOL

[storm jungle]

Also yeah the Shazam effect lol

[summer mural]

im surprised the common folk remembered who felix was after all that time in building their city

~~ it was most likely felix himself who orchestrated the construction of the statue~~

[storm jungle]

Tbh look at your local city now

do you remember most of the squares named after people?

I sure as hell dont

[celest dome]

Jaeger Lane was a cramped artery connecting the Veins and the docklands. It was a rowdy patch of alehouses and cheap eateries, where young blades from the Noble Quarter went to indulge in licentious behavior, and would-be revolutionaries plotted against the Grand Conclave. A statue weathered to featurelessness marked the largest crossing - the Jaeger for whom the area had been named, possibly

[summer mural]

fair fair

[storm jungle]

Thats the one!

even the entire Lane itself takes after Felix

his literal Aura™ lives on

[celest dome]

Did Felix die in the ET ?

I don't remember if it was stated or not

[storm jungle]

He essentially bled out/exploded alongside the planet

Gotrek abandoned Felix for the good of all to take the place of Grimnir

Felix was begging him not to go

it was great 💀

[summer mural]

he didnt have a battle death, he died with the apocalypse

[storm jungle]

Yeah that. But again who knows, maybe he'll come back

[summer mural]

like he didnt die in a duel per se

[storm jungle]

Gotrek still laments over Felix's death

even in AOS books, its sad as fuck

[summer mural]

making gotrek a god was s tier funny

[storm jungle]

Bro is ready to chop em all down

[celest dome]

Could be that Felix will take the part of a smaller god, like Ranald

[summer mural]

he won his way to godhood by just being that good

[celest dome]

Is Ranald in AoS

[summer mural]

i dunno

[storm jungle]

Very possible

theres minor gods in AOS that exist in Order

their cultural "idea" and concept also lives on

[queen laurel]

Except minor death gods

Nagash ate them

[storm jungle]

yeah Nagash vored em

[summer mural]

the fuckin menace

still, i give him credit for bonereapers

[storm jungle]

Dude you got no idea how far his cuntyness goes

[summer mural]

thats a good days work

[storm jungle]

he will literally turn you into a ghost with a scythe whos in eternal torment

because you were a doctor IRL helping people from not dying

[celest dome]

Most of them

Some are still present afaik

[summer mural]

[storm jungle]

This isnt a meme btw

he is THAT petty

[summer mural]

well

hes also like...old

[shadow plover]

They should know better...

[summer mural]

really old

[shadow plover]

asking for it tbh

[celest dome]

I hope the Coast/Pirate Undead are set up as not allied to Nagash per se, or at least their main characters

God would I love Nameless

[storm jungle]

Very likely will be a "fringe" death faction

[summer mural]

also fucking over nagash is yet another reason skaven are ultra based

[storm jungle]

aka owes fealty to Nagash but is like "yeah whatever"

[storm jungle]

ACCIDENTALLY btw

WHOOPS, TORE A HOLE IN THE DEATH DIMENSION

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-funny-rat-dance-dancing-rat-gif-7971112121050838550

[summer mural]

skaven are really fun, I appreciate them more and more in hindsight

and the technology is great

[storm jungle]

They are a great faction and always have been 🙏

[storm jungle]

skaven tech is like literally anything you can imagine, just say it was "powered by warpstone"

its one of the most bullshit parts of their lore, its great

[celest dome]

How many times has it been that the Skaven have been a thorn in the side of Nagash

3 ?

[shadow plover]

make it 13

[celest dome]

Nagashisar's Warpstone theft, that business with the Sword they made

And the Gnawholes

[summer mural]

one of the best part parts about skaven is that due to the nature of their numbers, skaven dying is just written off as comic relief , oh this mortar exploded and took a skaven with it, that rat ogre ate half the skavenslaves constructing that entire section of the wall

[storm jungle]

Rats breed fast so that checks out lol

[celest dome]

Only reason they're not over population is they eat each other 👍

[summer mural]

oh shit bastian carthalos is in black talon

or was his name castian barthalos

anyway, hes there

[queen laurel]

Bastian Carthalos

[summer mural]

yeah ive seen that

he looks better with his helm imo

[crystal forum]

helldivers legit has the worst community

i have not seen a bigger hive of scum and villainy when it comes to opinions on game balance

also i spotted one of the mods in the helldivers discord who was also a mod in one of the communities i used to be in. the kind of person who would complain all the time about how hard being a mod is

i swear discord mods will yap about the difficulties of being a mod then proceed to slither their way into positions of power in other servers so they can feel important

[vagrant fox]

total mod death

[cyan merlin]

They sniff for even the smallest reason to ban people to feel powerful too

I miss the Helldivers discord, fucker gave me a bad appeal link

[vagrant fox]

One of my earliest internet spaces was entirely self moderated and got actively worse once a mod was appointed and ever since then I've had a grudge against mods

mods ruined the internet

[summer mural]

that doesnt look like a chaplain at all

[queen laurel]

no it's better

[summer mural]

i cant wait for half the stormcast stormhosts to turn traitor

[queen laurel]

that's not gonna happen

[celest dome]

There isn't any point to doing that

They're Order "Chaos Warrior"

[queen laurel]

^

each one of them are literally hand-picked by sigmar himself

[celest dome]

Warrior of Chaos could use an update though

[queen laurel]

What do you mean they're fine

[celest dome]

ell I

Exalted Heroes Chaos and Knight are kind of weak design wise

For me

[crystal forum]

they curate communities by expelling those they personally dislike. it's a mod's world and we're just peons in it

[queen laurel]

these are still good though the chaos night may be but like the exalted hero is like 3rd edition

he's very new

[celest dome]

Anyway chaos wise the faction that really need new stuff is probably Tzeentch

God do they look bad

Honestly would match way better with Slaanesh

[summer mural]

whos second in command after the lord commander

any of the lords?

[celest dome]

What lord commander ?

[summer mural]

the stormhost commander

[summer mural]

so