you can just communicate like soldiers do, thats how most of the arbitrators seem to talk
meanwhile the maul " BREAK THEIR SKULLS!"
#40k-lore-chat
summer mural
Holy Emperor 
raven stone
Half true, since our Arbites precinct considers themselves failures for being unable to maintain Atoma Tithes...
near wasp
Holy Emperor <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Oh yeah dude that scene it peak
summer mural
damn
that ending was nice
especially where that marine has to break his oath
he was probably seconds from getting impaled by the custodian lol
oh i see the theme now
first ep tithe is the gene seed, second is the psykers, third is collection duty
near wasp
The third is so fucked up
rose thorn
Omfg there was a kroot book recently wasn’t there
valid needle
apparently theres a helsreach movie on yt
There is, it slims down the book by a bit, BUT it does cover all the major things and it’s really well done plus all the audio is directly taken from the audiobook.
summer mural
im watching it rn
near wasp
The visuals are a little hard to look at but it's still good
valid needle
The visuals are a little hard to look at but it's still good
They get better
summer mural
for some reason, I also watched patience of iron from the blood angels origins
that left me scarred
valid needle
Someone said the visuals are meant to represent Grimaldus state of mind and how he sees things black and white and then evolves but idk if that’s just someone overanalysing shit
valid needle
Carrying the imperium on your back takes a toll on a man
summer mural
carrying all the maths he has to do to figure out how many black templars are actually alive more like
its probably in the millions
valid needle
Mf needs to employ an accountant just to keep track of the 285827 crusades
summer mural
grimaldus kinda sounds like that actor from 300, the one spartan that survives
i forgot his name
this guy
valid needle
I can’t remember who the narrator is tbh
vagrant fox
If it's taken from the audiobook it's Jonathan Keeble
valid needle
If it's taken from the audiobook it's Jonathan Keeble
Yes it is
Well apart from the female voices but I don’t think the female narrator was credited
surreal nest
https://tenor.com/view/bean-gif-21132143
valid needle
Nightmare fuel
summer mural
wow im half an hour into the helsreach movie
so far its been great
the voice acting is superb
and the animation is nice too
also grimaldus being annoyed the whole time he has to defend a city is funny af
especially since hes walking around with a skull for a helmet
lofty mason
Are there any in-universe connection between Necrons and Ancient Egypt, or it just that Necrons coincidentally look like they are inspired by Ancient Egypt?
celest dome
None
outer wave
They're just inspired
Like how Thousand Sons are also inspired by ancient egypt as well
queen laurel
Are there any in-universe connection between Necrons and Ancient Egypt, or it ju...
Inspired
celest dome
Egypt -> Tomb King -> Necron
rocky gale
Are there any in-universe connection between Necrons and Ancient Egypt, or it ju...
There's an implication that the Necrons inspired the Ancient Egyptians but it's not confirmed, there's lore about the Triarch Praetorians that mentions they didn't enter into hibernation with the rest of the Necrons and that some of them in an effort to keep Necrontyr culture alive would disguise themselves as gods and spread their culture to primitive worlds.
Something that the Eldar tried to stop them doing
jade holly
Something that the Eldar tried to stop them doing
“Ah fuck the robots are cosplaying again”
tough haven
No way, New Jersey planet
outer wave
Question on the necrons: is their necrodermis capable of infecting nearby equipment/people?
tough haven
Question on the necrons: is their necrodermis capable of infecting nearby equipm...
No
It does not spread
outer wave
Darmn
tough haven
Mindshackle scarabs can infect people though
outer wave
Ngl thought it'd be like Vex Milk
tough haven
Ngl thought it'd be like Vex Milk
The what now?
outer wave
Destiny 2 race, the vex basically are microorganisms that reside in "Vex Milk", which is a milky-looking substance that can turn things touching it into vex-usable metal
storm jungle
Question on the necrons: is their necrodermis capable of infecting nearby equipm...
Nothing stopping it from being able to
like, the advantage with necrons is their tech is so advanced you can literally just make it do what it wants
when they got a hologram table that can blow up any planet in the galaxy its kinda no bars at that point
outer wave
like, the advantage with necrons is their tech is so advanced you can *literally...
Kinda wish they explored it more, like with DoW 1's pariahs
queen laurel
when they got a hologram table that can blow up any planet in the galaxy its kin...
Honestly them and the orks probably the only factions where any technology can literally make sense because bullshit and you can get away with just hand waving an explanation
storm jungle
Question on the necrons: is their necrodermis capable of infecting nearby equipm...
Also
976.M41 THE FEAST OF STEEL
The Sautekh Dynasty expands into Tau space and invades the Kroot-held world of Caroch. Though the Kroot win the first engagements, their attempt to dine upon the living metal of their victims has hideous results as a nano-scarab plague sweeps through their ranks.
- Codex: Necrons (7e)
outer wave
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GIMME ACTUAL PARIAH MODELS, GW
thorny wren
Hi! Is it cannon that Gazgkull Thraka had Yarick go at one time ?(saw a video on it)
outer wave
Would be really cool, because "Xenos humans" as a whole isnt a very well explored part of 40k
storm jungle
Hi! Is it cannon that Gazgkull Thraka had Yarick go at one time ?(saw a video on...
Ey yo?
🤨 🏳️🌈
oh wait whoops
thorny wren
?
outer wave
Finally, true love in my 40k
storm jungle
?
In 944.M41, three years after the end of the Second War, Yarrick formally came out of retirement and requested a military expedition to thoroughly cleanse the surrounding worlds of Ork raiders, his particular goal being to hunt down Ghazghkull. One such planet, Golgotha, was to be where this purge would end for the Imperials in a crushing defeat by the Ork defences.
Yarrick's personal Baneblade, the Fortress of Arrogance was abandoned[2] and Yarrick himself was captured by Ghazghkull. After grueling torture and forced labor with other captured Humans, Yarrick led a slave revolt aboard Ghazghkull's Space Hulk. However the uprising failed, and Yarrick once again found himself in Greenskin captivity. Yarrick was then brought before Ghazghkull much more, and much to the Commissar's surprise the Warboss gave him a shuttle and let him go. Ghazghkull stated that good enemies were hard to come by and felt that the Warboss' planned re-invasion of Armageddon would be much more fun with Yarrick on the other side.
Here it is
and the excerpt from the actual book chapter if you wanna take a look at it
storm jungle
thorny wren
im reading the prophet or war book atm
sacred bluff
Hi! Is it cannon that Gazgkull Thraka had Yarick go at one time ?(saw a video on...
Ghazgull loves Yarrick and will avenge him by killing Angron 
thorny wren
i got to the part where they interogate makari about gazgkull
storm jungle
Yeah that book is really good for that stuff but requires some context
outer wave
Ghazgull loves Yarrick and will avenge him by killing Angron <a:nod:112437939886...
Then Ghaz will come back to Yarrick's body and give him a knightly kiss on the lips
Then he'll revive as an ork
thorny wren
how lovely
outer wave
This is Shrek 40k
storm jungle
reading either Ghaz or Yarrick's lexi should catch you up with most of the context
thorny wren
thanks!
thorny wren
Amazing honestly
misty vector
You’s my best enemy
thorny wren
im new to wh40k overall, played Dawn Of War when I was little, like 8, then it came back like a truck and hit me on the back of my head
couldnt let it go afterwards
storm jungle
DoW is a lot of peoples intro into 40k so thats very normal lol
thorny wren
I mean the game was cool for a 8 year old
outer wave
DoW? I dont think its really connected to any books that I know of
storm jungle
No like spoilers as a joke lol
outer wave
Oh lmao
storm jungle
😩
thorny wren
No like spoilers as a joke lol
i see
thorny wren
NO F'KING WAY
outer wave
Yeah, not done by Relic but by the guys that did Iron Harvest
green loom
Just announced at Gamescom
outer wave
^
misty vector
Coincidentally like two days or something ago
green loom
Yeah, not done by Relic but by the guys that did Iron Harvest
IH devs are distinctly inspired by relic I believe?
queen laurel
IH devs are distinctly inspired by relic I believe?
Inspired by company of heroes yeah
Especially for iron harvest
thorny wren
TELL ME ITS THE RTS PLS
green loom
Ye
outer wave
IH devs are distinctly inspired by relic I believe?
I know they're really taking a note out of DoW 1 and making sure its mostly that game, but Iron Harvest apparently also has CoH vibes so wouldnt be surprised
green loom
Watch the end of the traielr
queen laurel
TELL ME ITS THE RTS PLS
Don't worry it's actually base building
outer wave
^
queen laurel
Not the half as dawn of war 3 base building or the less building centered one of two
Even though dawn of war 2 was good for what it was
thorny wren
i think im gonna get naughty naughty on this trailer
outer wave
🤨
thorny wren
its been, 16 years man, i missed this so much
green loom
It's been 22 years since dawn of war 1 
thorny wren
16 years since i played it
outer wave
God Im old
thorny wren
i played the titles, nothing compared to DoW 1
Eternal Crusade has a special place in my hearth
outer wave
I havent heard of EC in a bit
I remember being a little interested in that, but the bad publicity ultimately made stay away
green loom
Eternal Crusade has a special place in my hearth
You seen SM2 yet?
thorny wren
sm2?
green loom
Space Marine 2
green loom
But yeah it's a nice time for 40k games
thorny wren
Indeed iit is brother
celest dome
40k is eating really good atm, hope that FS goes back to fantasy or AoS if they keep to GW ip
queen laurel
40k is eating really good atm, hope that FS goes back to fantasy or AoS if they ...
AOS needs a good game
thorny wren
40k is eating really good atm, hope that FS goes back to fantasy or AoS if they ...
who is FS?
queen laurel
who is FS?
Fat shark, studio that developed darkide
You know the game this server is made for
outer wave
40k is eating really good atm, hope that FS goes back to fantasy or AoS if they ...
It still needs to get away from the mobile game/discount card games though, not that they've ever made an impact on the general gaming sphere
celest dome
AOS needs a good game
Aye
celest dome
It still needs to get away from the mobile game/discount card games though, not ...
Still remain that 40k is eating really good
outer wave
Of course
Darktide/Vermintide, SM2, Total Warhammer games, RT, and now (hopefully) DoW 4
queen laurel
Yep with 40k catapulting into more mainstream popularity they are getting the good game attention
celest dome
Might have in a while a Total War 40k
It's still somewhat niche, it's more to the level of DnD I'd say
queen laurel
It's still somewhat niche, it's more to the level of DnD I'd say
I mean that's just normal
It's just one of those cool things certain people like and are quite popular basically now
celest dome
If FS was to make a new tide game set in an Ip that it's held by GW (or their own spin), what would you want them to do
queen laurel
If FS was to make a new tide game set in an Ip that it's held by GW (or their ow...
Soul bound aos tide
celest dome
If their own Ip, avatars of various Pantheon vs a tide of Old Gods
queen laurel
So what would be the tide ?
Destruction, chaos, and undead
And the characters can come from destruction, death, and order
celest dome
I'd say that's quite unrealistic, more likely to remain on 1 tide with logical allies
queen laurel
I'd say that's quite unrealistic, more likely to remain on 1 tide with logical a...
Soul bound parties travel the realms so they can fight a lot of enemies from destruction, death and chaos
But i supposed sticking to one order is good
And easier
celest dome
Battle Fantasy I would love to see 2 possibilities:
- Deadfleet: member of the Grand Alliance vs Dreadfleet
- Lizardmen: Chaos Chosen vs Lizardmen Temple cities
celest dome
Soul bound parties travel the realms so they can fight a lot of enemies from des...
It's more to do about the Dev work and stuff
queen laurel
It's more to do about the Dev work and stuff
Too slow plant i already said it would be easier
celest dome
Likewise here it's unrealistic that we would see Necron, GSC....
queen laurel
But seriously aos tide would be nice soul bound offers the best character selection
celest dome
Hedge used to vibe with Dreadtide 
queen laurel
Because you can get from three grand alliancesinstead of just one
outer wave
Im glad
celest dome
Still have contact with him
queen laurel
Last I talked to him, he muted me in gen for being a little too rambuncious
100% believe this
outer wave
100% believe this
It was a bit worse tbf, but yeah, got a stern DM from him and was muted for a couple days
celest dome
Because you can get from three grand alliancesinstead of just one
I fear that it may end up feeling to eclectic, and not organic enough if for example you have an Orruck and a Dwarf in the same party
queen laurel
I fear that it may end up feeling to eclectic, and not organic enough if for exa...
Yeah but it would be fun i trust fs capabilities for interactions
And just sticking to order just make it boring
It would be just like fantasy again but now more high fantasy
I want to play something else besides elf dwarf human
celest dome
Sons of Behemat
outer wave
Sons of Bahamut
celest dome
?
queen laurel
Sons of Bahamut
That would be the giants sob sons of behamat
celest dome
Soul bound I feel would be nice to have for an Owlcat game
outer wave
Very true
celest dome
Bahamut is the dragon from Dnd iirc, so which is it, Behemat or Behamat
queen laurel
Bahamut is the dragon from Dnd iirc, so which is it, Behemat or Behamat
Behemat
queen laurel
Soul bound I feel would be nice to have for an Owlcat game
I love them but, if they do that they would need to allow you to have multiple starts and basically make multiple different characters choices for every grand alliance
Just playing soulbound crpg where you can only start as a human would be very
Not fun
outer wave
I mean, they could just add race customization options on top, it IS a tabletop RPG with that capability after all
Oh but the actual starts for each campaign, right right
celest dome
Iirc their Pathfinder game had a much bigger freedom of character creation
languid meadow
arctic talon
Pathfinder 1e
queen laurel
Yeah it had a different races and stuff but, the thing is with soulbound taking the setting in mind each character would have to have a unique starting place because they can't just throw them on like you guys start in this place
languid meadow
P1E is... interesting
celest dome
Yeah it had a different races and stuff but, the thing is with soulbound taking ...
Could have the start happen after the soul bound has become active and your character meet an important npc they sought out
Kinda like DoS2 did
queen laurel
Could have the start happen after the soul bound has become active and your char...
I can see that working
outer wave
Would be cool for the characters to go back to places where the player character would've originated and that would add more context and dialogue to that part of the story
near wasp
Kinda like DoS2 did
That game makes my brain hurt. I am big dumb boy I wanna hit people hard not worry about armor stats and terrain ;_; my group cannot stand how many blunders I make
We're in arks now
near wasp
Divinity original sin 2 ye?
celest dome
Yes
Unless you're absolutely trying to min-maw to hell it's very much prone for the happy go lucky
Only the 2 armour types of armour matter tbh
near wasp
I always end up forgetting about armor and wasting my turn because my effects don't proc unless armor is gone
celest dome
Yup, compared to most crpg it's really not a complicated system.
near wasp
I played bg3 before this
I ended up accidentally discovering a super busted build by duel wielding staffs and spamming magic missile
celest dome
You can offhand staves in bg3 ?
median star
you need that one feat i think
sacred ginkgo
Yup, compared to most crpg it's really not a complicated system.
It’s less complicated but ends up having a lot more tactical depth and inter character synergy beyond buffs due to this
Ground hazards my beloved
Yes I would like to boil the blood on the ground into a cloud then electrify it
misty vector
Lol with the way my friend build his character the whole fighting area gets filled with fire in like 3 turns
celest dome
Might try a dual staff Monk run then
celest dome
Yes I would like to boil the blood on the ground into a cloud then *electrify it...
Yes, that was something I missed in bg3
Which I guess is fair as it's not the goal of the game to make a new system
near wasp
Might try a dual staff Monk run then
Yeah with the duel wilder feat you get the one staff that add lightning orbs on hit then you get the one that gives you a bunch of free spells and choose lightning. Then every missile adds lightning orbs, along with some other items that illuminate and reverberate.
languid meadow
lofty mason
Is it an exaggeration if I believe that IoM produces a million Le-Man Russ tanks per week?
celest dome
Would possibly be undervalued
lofty mason
Would possibly be undervalued
A day? They probably produces a million Lasguns every minute
celest dome
Probably lose as many per day too
plush mason
yeah
IoM is operating at an insane scale and most of it's million worlds are dedicated to producing munitions for the endless war, it has no true economy just a vast production line for everything needed to fight
the tithe goes to one of 2 places, to terra to keep the planet "alive" or to one of the uncountable fronts the imperium is fighting in
so a million medium tanks a day is more than reasonable given its like a few 1000 worlds making them
if not far more
outer wave
https://fxtwitter.com/HBigMan_/status/1959296483041161584
Okay, so I dont get why that piece of fan lore is so prevalent in these kinds of memes, whats so wrong about it exactly?
celest dome
the tithe goes to one of 2 places, to terra to keep the planet "alive" or to one...
Food Tithe often goes to Forgeworlds as they're unable to produce food there
celest dome
Okay, so I dont get why that piece of fan lore is so prevalent in these kinds of...
I guess it's just making fun of the Tau for being such a young species
||which imo is dumb, the way the Tau are standing their ground is nothing short of admirable for such a young species||
outer wave
Ah I see I see
plush mason
Okay, so I dont get why that piece of fan lore is so prevalent in these kinds of...
its making fun of how naive the tau where early on
outer wave
Kind dumb now that I think about it because couldnt we say the same for IoM and necron tech?
plush mason
the imperium and other major factions wizened them up quick
plush mason
Kind dumb now that I think about it because couldnt we say the same for IoM and ...
most people in the imperium couldnt even turn on a microwave without calling it heresy
outer wave
Lmao true
plush mason
im sure even trying to think about necron tech would given them an aneurism in the brain
outer wave
Probably most of the "magic" crypteks can do on a dime
plush mason
yup
celest dome
I really would love a story of a combat between a Cryptek and a Jokaero, maybe from the point of view of the Cryptek or nearby Tech Priests
plush mason
the cryptek would be like "ah finally, a simian with an actual working brain"
celest dome
"Strange, where have I seen that sort of tech before"
outer wave
Would a cryptek like our friend, Jokaero?
Know what could be kinda cool? If pink horrors could combine together to make something like a big pink chaos spawn or something
sacred bluff
Like the indecision to call youu
opaque coyote
Okay listen
We've all heard about like
Star Wars Empire or Republic vs 40k Imperium
And obviously in a direct battle, Star Wars would generally lose
But like
I think people forget that like
The Imperium relies on Warp Travel
Which is unreliable at best
But Star Wars travel is generally consistent and quick
Which makes me wonder how would they fight Star Wars fleets if they can just
Appear near a planet
Bomb it
Disappear
In the time it takes for an Imperium fleet to appear
Like Star Wars FTL is much faster than the Imperium or even Star Trek
And I feel like people keep forgetting that when they do the jerk off power scaling fest.
That is arguably a gigantic advantage they have over the Imperium
storm jungle
https://fxtwitter.com/HBigMan_/status/1959296483041161584
LMFAO
opaque coyote
LMFAO
Y'know honestly the T'au probably discover shit like this all of the time
Sure it would be a shock for like a soldier finding out
storm jungle
Y'know honestly the T'au probably discover shit like this all of the time
probably
opaque coyote
But I generally think any Ethereal would be like
"Oh... another piece of technology thousands of years older than us. What's new?"
opaque coyote
probably
I think it was less shock of how young they are
But more shock of like
"This machine is like 2000 years old and yet it's so hateful and wants to kill me."
storm jungle
I think it was less shock of how young they are
opaque coyote
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1...
Speaking of cats.
...
Gyrinx would be cool pets
Although I would be terrified of angering one
"No you cannot have a meal now. You've already had dinner."
Gyrinx casts flame blast
Probably why only Eldar, Rogue Traders, and Inquistors own one
Imagine all the shit cats do
but with psyker powers
at least you can have a casual convo with one
You just hear in your mind
"I want pets hooman. Give me one now"
plush mason
"Oh... another piece of technology thousands of years older than us. What's new?...
it was the pilot not the tech that spooked the commander btw
the dude inside had been fighting for longer than the tau had been a space fairing empire
opaque coyote
the dude inside had been fighting for longer than the tau had been a space fairi...
Yeah somebody being alive that long would freak people out
Especially if they
Really
Want you dead
plush mason
yup
opaque coyote
From the bottom of your heart
opaque coyote
yup
"Oh wise one, who has been alive for hundreds of years. Please give me your wisdom."
plush mason
iirc the SM inside was little more than a head and torso as well
nocturne crest
Which makes me wonder how would they fight Star Wars fleets if they can just
I wonder if the imperium would try to capture and adapt the technology, or would Chaos get involved because Hyperdrives ruin the fun of warp travel.
storm jungle
The Imperium almost never innovates so it would get destroyed as heretical tech so
also navigator houses would throw a fit and sabotage it
celest dome
Aren't Blaster technically Plasma weapons ?
cyan merlin
Nurgle himself versus Mr. Clean, who wins?
languid meadow
Aren't Blaster technically Plasma weapons ?
from star wars? yeah blasters would be plasma weapons
super heated gas
well it's weird
gaunt lily
But Star Wars travel is generally consistent and quick
starwars hyperspace travel requires hyperspace routes to be mapped ahead of time, which in a sudden vs scenario maybe isnt great for the starwars universe on the attack
especially since thered be no existing routes to copy
nocturne crest
There's also the fact there are still guns made in star wars, despite the advantages of blasters.
opaque coyote
starwars hyperspace travel requires hyperspace routes to be mapped ahead of time...
Ah nvm then
Maybe a home turf advantage if the Imperium somehow invaded (and the warp is still a factor) but that's about
gaunt lily
a scenario where a lost imperial fleet materialises out of the warp in starwars could be a fun one off tbf
opaque coyote
well it's weird
Also they might be weaker than Lasguns?
opaque coyote
a scenario where a lost imperial fleet materialises out of the warp in starwars ...
There is an entire fanfic video series about that
It's pretty cool
Basically an imperial fleet gets lost and appears in the middle of the clone wars era
gaunt lily
opaque coyote
It's actually pretty cool
nocturne crest
I think I watched part of that.
opaque coyote
@gaunt lily https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzgscHwzoNQqL9m9zp9puZK129MN42h2c&si=0JIeFUkR81LgexDU
The only part that I wish is that he made an actual text version
nocturne crest
They had a chaos sorcerer turn up to help the Jedi or something,.
opaque coyote
They had a chaos sorcerer turn up to help the Jedi or something,.
Khayon
nocturne crest
The one from the Black Legion?
opaque coyote
The very same
Apparently one of the ships was transporting him
Because the books are told while he was imprisoned by the Imperium
opaque coyote
Oh hey that's neat
Makes sense
If you wanna kill a Jedi. It's gotta be in one shot
nocturne crest
It's found in a the star wars roleplaying source book, from 2019.
opaque coyote
@nocturne crest also the fanfic basically made it so that the Force is actually just
The warp but much calmer
And much less uhhh
Y'know.
nocturne crest
Evil.
opaque coyote
Force Users are basically Psykers
Except they can actually do more since they don't get daemons wanting them
nocturne crest
That's neat.
opaque coyote
...what
opaque coyote
Is the magazine on the fucking side
Is that the fucking magazine
The 8 bullets nearby
On the side
Or is it on top?
nocturne crest
It might be the side.
opaque coyote
nocturne crest
It's got a box magazine
nocturne crest
Well, I wonder if it's borrowing that thing people do with shotguns or lever actions and have spare bullets on the side.
opaque coyote
I think my favorite part about the 40k bolter. On a purely aesthetic level.
Is how it's proportioned like a weapon meant for giants. Like no matter if you're a stickler for realism or not.
You can admit that the Bolter looks like it'd be a weapon that shoots mini missiles
opaque coyote
Well, I wonder if it's borrowing that thing people do with shotguns or lever act...
True
Still though looks more like a design for a pistol
Or an smg
Yeah this gun design ain't it chief
I ain't even judging off of realism or anything pretentious.
Just on how cool it looks
And it doesn't look cool
nocturne crest
I wonder if it uses that early gun technology of having stripper clips.
opaque coyote
Yeah you could be righr
The four bullets are on a clip
...
At least they don't use riveted armor for the tanks and shit
Star wars has that over 40k
But in exchange, they have to use stripper clips
nocturne crest
They have a .48 as a calibre pistols in star wars
Means .45 could still be used in star wars...
nocturne crest
Except they can actually do more since they don't get daemons wanting them
So do they have part where the Jedi fight daemons?
crystal forum
well it's weird
i love when people try to make detailed lore about movie props that were assembled out of scrap metal
late verge
so in one of the levels hadron mentions rune priests, what rune priests? Arent those a space wolves thing?
arctic talon
so in one of the levels hadron mentions rune priests, what rune priests? Arent t...
Yes, but it’s also a rank in the mechanicus
From really really old lore
Like late 1e or early 2e lore
late verge
oh
flat plaza
i have been struggling for days to conceptualize the Psyker equivalent to a Warframe
it feels heretical for a Psyker to work a Space Marine like a puppet
but what about something akin to a Knight Pentient from Diablo
surreal nest
The emperor a heretic then!!
Unless I just repeated meme lore then I accept firing squad
I'm not sure if the emperor fully possessed guilliman or just healed him
flat plaza
those already given the death penalty, hooked up to armor fueled by their blood, controlled by psykers
opaque coyote
but what about something akin to a Knight Pentient from Diablo
Dude that looks sick
Looks like Pyramid head swore them self to Khorne and swapped out the machete with a mace.
And also put on a suit of power armor
flat plaza
Looks like Pyramid head swore them self to Khorne and swapped out the machete wi...
it's so heavily WH40k coded without actually being from 40k
opaque coyote
it feels heretical for a Psyker to work a Space Marine like a puppet
I mean why do you think they're so feared
Even like the "normal" ones can probably crush your head like a tin can
If Space Marines still have their balls. A Psyker can probably do testicular torsion in an instant
opaque coyote
Just pop their heads or smite them
I mean that's effective
But how do you put the fear of the warp in a guy?
Casting testicular torsion
flat plaza
flat plaza
same company so that makes sense
arctic talon
Looks more AoS to me
Tbh
Mostly due to the like, style of trim I guess?
It lines up more with the AoS chaos warriors/khornates then it does 40k
opaque coyote
It lines up more with the AoS chaos warriors/khornates then it does 40k
40k has more like... technical shit in it?
Like wires
Obviously scifi bullshit even on Chaos dudes
Etc.
arctic talon
Yeah
arctic talon
Daemon/possesed
flat plaza
ah yup, there's Erzebet
shes got cultish energy
arctic talon
Cultist
opaque coyote
ah yup, there's Erzebet
shes got cultish energy
Would be a corrupted Sister of Battle, has a similar haircut.
Oh wait, according to the Ecchelisarchy, corrupted sisters don't exist
Clearly they've never lied.
paper haven
Corrupted sister of battle? Impossible.
summer mural
i dont enjoy the sisters of battle
they seem kinda bland
also your entire thing being just zeal is kinda meh
outer wave
It kinda is? I think they're kinda unique in aesthetic at least
summer mural
thats all they got though
I also feel like the aesthetic isnt anything special
sisters of silence I enjoy more as my femlegion
they got lot of cool stuff going on
transporting the black ships, vow of silence, interesting aesthetic, being anti psyker blanks , emperors confidantes once upon a time, paired with custodians
opaque coyote
i dont enjoy the sisters of battle
Generally like the idea
Needs more development
They have more potential compared to SMs
Since they're human and not always
"SUPER SERIOUS SOLDIER MAN"
Sure they still have an extreme amount of zeal that would make a black templar reconsider their behavior
But there's more you can do with that than what GW did
summer mural
eh
opaque coyote
Also black is my favorite color
summer mural
i dont like how they get superpowers from blind faith as a rule
opaque coyote
summer mural
i like my mute sisters better
opaque coyote
i dont like how they get superpowers from blind faith as a rule
I don't play the tabletop so I wouldn't know
I have thought about it but
A) Nowhere nearby to play 40k.
B) No idea where to look
C) Classic introverted and somewhat antisocial
D) Looks expensive
arctic talon
they've had an invuln save since their introduction
which represents their like
"faith" lol
summer mural
also, its kinda random that they are the militant arm of the ordo hereticus, i mean it makes sense, but im probably missing some connection
arctic talon
Ordo hereticus friends with ecclisarchy
therfore they're often seen as Hereticus's armored fist
opaque coyote
"faith" lol
"I AIN'T FUCKING DYING WITHOUT TAKING YOU WITH ME."
arctic talon
but most invuln saves are like, psychic shield, refractor field, bionics, really tough armor, being hard as shit to hit
ect.
summer mural
sisters of silence are so dope though, and they got that elite vibe going for them too
arctic talon
SoB is literally just faith manifest
opaque coyote
but most invuln saves are like, psychic shield, refractor field, bionics, really...
One of these things are not like the other
Still makes sense but it is funny
"Bro just hit him."
"I FUCKING CAN'T HE'S TOO FAST!"
arctic talon
Harlequins 3++ invuln save
summer mural
also, I feel like if they can give sisters of battle power armor, they can probably spread it around a lil bit more
summer mural
good
arctic talon
SoB have a pretty limited recruitment pool
opaque coyote
also, I feel like if they can give sisters of battle power armor, they can proba...
SoBs are rarer.
Also gotta give the power armor to the big dick sphess marinez
arctic talon
female, highly fit for combat, some level of psychopathy the schola solves this, and highly religous
they have by far the most requirements of the "normal" schola grads
summer mural
sisters of silence gotta be rarer
summer mural
gotta be all that and a blank on top of it
opaque coyote
they have by far the most requirements of the "normal" schola grads
Equivalent to an engineering degree atp
summer mural
I guess sisters of silence are one of those groups that were closer to the emperor and dont blindly worship him?
opaque coyote
I guess sisters of silence are one of those groups that were closer to the emper...
I mean tbf they literally see him as like
A guy convulsing
arctic talon
I guess sisters of silence are one of those groups that were closer to the emper...
yeah, though they kind of got abandoned by the Imperial Household and have only recently risen back to prominance
the Imperial household in 40k is their own little microcosm of culture and traditions
which is pretty fun
summer mural
they did seem kinda absent
arctic talon
They pretty much got left out to dry
because the custodes were too busy being sad/angry
summer mural
and the custodes seemed utterly misused until indomitus came along
arctic talon
and the tech guilds did not want to get involved in Imperial politics
summer mural
and by misused I mean they were just left on terra
opaque coyote
and by misused I mean they were just left on terra
Tbf that's partially because they didn't want to go out
Ultra depression
summer mural
guilliman at least got them some of them to go out and be useful, put all that skill to use
since you know, the imperiums ending
arctic talon
but officialy the custodes never sanctioned any activity outside of the palace
or terra
up till the great rift fucking exploded open
lol
summer mural
I feel like custodians can get away with like, expanding their presence to like..the moon you know
they can probably handle the moon and terra
arctic talon
and the Selenar Genecults
which were fully integrated into the imperial household by then
opaque coyote
They were just depressed
summer mural
oh the sisters of silence managed the moon?
arctic talon
yeah
summer mural
see
arctic talon
they have a fortress
summer mural
i can appreciate that
arctic talon
it got abandoned as the ecclisarchy decided to crack down on them
but it was quickly refurbished
once the SoS were recalled
and is now a functioning fortress again where new SoS are trained, ect. ect.
summer mural
thats why you need a secret fortress like the one the grey knights have on titan
opaque coyote
once the SoS were recalled
Man the SoS got fucked over so badly
arctic talon
well the imperial household was ultimately a public body
if the Custodes or the variety of other groups within it
had tried to intervene they could have stopped
but the whole imperial household was kind of fucked up
from the Emperor dying
opaque coyote
thats why you need a *secret* fortress like the one the grey knights have on tit...
The Imperial Palace is literally like the size of a continent
arctic talon
though I'm sure a solid chunk of them were happy
lol
But some SoS stuck around in the Imperial Palace and such
its just a majority were scattered across the imperium
opaque coyote
I'm pretty sure the palace has at least 25 different fortresses within its depths
Among other things
summer mural
the sos in the tithes episode is pretty cool
arctic talon
Funnily enough the Old 100 are not part of the Imperial Household
summer mural
she seems blessed with common sense
opaque coyote
It takes actual... I forgot if it was months or years.
To do like a single lap across the Imperial Palace
arctic talon
the old 100 and chosen regiments not being the part of the Imperial household is funny
opaque coyote
in the himalayas no less
Yeah, like I said, I think there might be fortresses within it tbh
summer mural
I think theres a slum around one of the gates too, called the pilgrims city or something, where all the people waiting in line to see the emprah basically built a slum
because you know, they have to wait
opaque coyote
line to see the emperor is kind of fucking hilarious
Average line to a Disneyland ride
Jokes aside, it's this type of ridiculous lore that makes 40k great
I can imagine people making businesses specifically catering to the line
Restaurants, paying people to stand in your place, etc.
opaque coyote
Not betting, but I think it would be extremely funny if Ferrus somehow came back first
arctic talon
Russ for loyalist
opaque coyote
Somehow
arctic talon
I think after Russ there’s gona be a lull for loyalist
Until GW figures out how tf they’re gona milk more cash
lol
opaque coyote
I think after Russ there’s gona be a lull for loyalist
Maybe Chaos?
arctic talon
Nah
We’re done with god aligned chaos primarchs
Which is why I think they’re pumping the breaks
opaque coyote
I know a lot of women would be happy if Konrad came back alive
...
I don't know why so many women like Konrad
summer mural
I liked guilliman returns because hes like mentioned or involved in all the storylines, like his return has a signifcant impact across the imperium, but i feel like the lions was kinda limp in hindsight ? like hes just united the fallen back with the dark angels and thats about it?
opaque coyote
I'm genuinely be serious why the fuck are so many girls like
"I can fix him"
Bro you cannot fix SHIT
summer mural
you need to meet more girls
summer mural
also I guess konrad has like strange sense of self awareness
opaque coyote
you need to meet more girls <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
To be fair, very few women play warhammer
...and the ones that do are mostly tyranid players
summer mural
yeah but the 'innocent' fallen he redeems, which is still a plus
but apart from that, the lion doesnt exactly seem like big beacon of hope across the imperium like guilliman, which is strange, because lion is a fairly competent primarch
and hes a military commander type too
arctic talon
The Lion isn't a big beacon of hope
tbf
he's a small one trying not to be smothered out by darkness
he's in the ass end of nihlus
Imperium Nihlus is a true shithole
summer mural
well, he ought to go get some wins like a sledgehammer then
summer mural
arctic talon
there's hope in the places he does this
opaque coyote
The Lion isn't a big beacon of hope
also if he gets to guilliman. I think he'd might be happy just for somebody to help on the sheer load that is ruling the imperium
summer mural
it is true hes rather ..inconveniently located atm
arctic talon
anyways I would like more stuff
but Lion is very intentionally not a beacon of hope
opaque coyote
Imperium Nihlus is a true shithole
We need more stuff about Nihilus
near wasp
The lion books needs a sequal
arctic talon
he's an ember in the night
near wasp
Please black library I'm begging you
summer mural
well , unlike guillimans return story, which is bang in the middle of huge important events with important folk , the lions returns starts with his esoteric walk through a forest
arctic talon
Lion should go brutally beat someone to death with a dead body
like he did in the Black books
and then maybe eat the body
opaque coyote
and then ~~maybe eat the body~~
truly
a shining beacon of hope
seriously though, a part of me is sad that the Lion mellowed out
summer mural
i cant wait for russ's return to just be about his dreams of walking across the tundra guided by a spiritual wolf
summer mural
also lion is pretty solid strategist too
like he can definitely help guilliman
and make big plans like indomitus crusade
probably not as good
but he can also probably beat up more folk
arctic talon
Lion's strategic coordination of the dark angels and the sucessors that followed them into Nihlus in nihlus is useful
but again Nihlus sucks
communication sucks ass in Nihlus
warp travel sucks in nihlus
the fact primaris are even in nihlus is due to time dilation from the warp corruption seeping in
summer mural
well, dark angels arent also blessed with functioning eyeballs like ultramarines, they are paranoid and have the whole fallen shit and they had that whole bit about the lion firing on them
opaque coyote
the fact primaris are even in nihlus is due to time dilation from the warp corru...
wait so people from the future are
there
opaque coyote
??
arctic talon
don't think about it too hard
Guillimans reinforcment fleets
are from the future
technically
opaque coyote
????
summer mural
opaque coyote
what
arctic talon
Guilliman traveling into Nihlus has not occured yet
in sanctus
it has occured in nihlus due to how fucked up it is
from warp energy
summer mural
average space travel day.
arctic talon
I was not joking
opaque coyote
also sounds like we need more nihilus content
summer mural
morrow going " first time?"
arctic talon
but guilliman has done his round trip
from sanctus to nihlus in nihlus
but he hasn't gone into nihlus in sanctus yet
summer mural
also we need canon cinematic with lion, we got guillimans chubby face
you can tell he grew up eating french pastry
arctic talon
lol
summer mural
are triarch praetorians the most elite necron soldier
arctic talon
are triarch praetorians the most elite necron soldier
toss up between Lychguard and triarch praetorians yeah. Or personal bodyguards
summer mural
do flayed ones and destroyer cult necrons get their consciousness returned to the storage vault thingie
when they die
languid meadow
No I don't think so since that would risk their "Illness" spreading
summer mural
I wonder if destroyer cult necrons also hate flayed ones
languid meadow
well that's why the Necrons believe
summer mural
probably do, destroyer cult seem more rational in comparison
languid meadow
They're not as insane but still insane
Even destroyers would avoid flayer ones if possible
but they dont attack each other (iirc) since destroyers only care about killing living things
summer mural
ye
destroyers have leaders too
and heirarchy
oh damn
necrons warriors are mute
arctic talon
yeah
summer mural
i didnt know that, i just thought they had limited mental capacity
arctic talon
they do also
languid meadow
I'd have to find it but I'm pretty sure their consciousness aren't "gone" per say just like
turned off?
arctic talon
yeah
its locked up
its why warriors can suffer from disphorek
the mind still exists
summer mural
apparently the only verbal noise they make is horrific ear splitting scream when they die
and not always
languid meadow
istg I remember a passage about a lord granting a warrior consciousness but I could be wrong
brain drain
arctic talon
Necron pariahs aren’t real
But yeah
Blanks don’t effect them since crons literally don’t have souls
crystal forum
Necron pariahs aren’t real
that's what your therapist tells you
queen laurel
aren't immortals like the size of an ogryn
celest dome
In theory why not
But no rules for it yet as we haven't got an update to RT (not Owlcat) since a very long time
(2014)
summer mural
they are fully sentient so
probably
do they have like
programming overrides or something built into em
queen laurel
Can Ironkin end up serving the likes of Rogue Traders and such?
I mean yeah but
They would have to hide it's presence to the mechanicus
And kin the normal dwarfs seem to be smart enough to say why not join this human in his crew
sacred ginkgo
They could probably get away from the mechanicus on that issue by just saying “the Warrant lets me do it”
urban spire
can? yes. should? probably not
storm jungle
programming overrides or something built into em
They are programmed to be essentially just living people.
summer mural
disgusting.
storm jungle
also can get the urge to lead or rise up in ranks like organics do
summer mural
give me a necron anyday
urban spire
i think we can all related to a soulless being with upper back issues
urban spire
They could probably get away from the mechanicus on that issue by just saying “t...
that's extremely dodgy, the mechanicus is a parallel organization to the empire, not fully integrated, and sometimes members might decide they're not bound by specific imperial laws, or that their own laws take precedent
but that's the kinda line rogue traders like to walk anyway
sacred ginkgo
I did say probably
urban spire
going "fuck it, we ball!" and then suffering terrible consequences is an extremely rogue trader thing to do
celest dome
More likely that some Tech Priests would either refuse service or try to kill the Rogue Trader at some point
urban spire
wrt space marine sizes: they aren't actually that tall
primaris more so, but vanilla not so much
celest dome
Firstborn SM miniatures are quite small, more so when compared to the IG
urban spire
wrt warp travel sometimes causing time travel: it's actually not that easy to detect when this happens, since FTL communication also gets distorted through the warp, and imperial time keeping is centralized on terra
if you arrive somewhere and records show that you arrived at your destination before you left, that could just be an unusually speedy but conventional warp transit combined with the arrival site having the wrong imperial date and no way to check it
celest dome
Old Miniatures are just the sizes of IG ones
urban spire
lore is space marines are 7-8 feet tall, but most depictions are on the low end of 7
when they get an actual scale rather than like a propaganda piece i mean
propaganda vs scale reference
space marine height has even been given as about 6'6 out of armour, which is very funny to me because that's how tall i am
though the idea that power armour can add a lot to your height is pretty silly, unless it's high heeled PA or it's got armoured platform boots
storm jungle
I mean it does have armored platform boots
urban spire
yeah but those things gotta be fuckin stilts if they're adding more than like 2 inches
el clasico
queen laurel
that's extremely dodgy, the mechanicus is a parallel organization to the empire,...
Even the crew on your ship that is responsible for the repairs would probably try to get any information they have on the weird automaton you have
Because they see this thing just walking around without supervision
Their immediately going to report it to you or to an outsider
urban spire
yeah it probably wouldn't be great for morale
queen laurel
You'd have to do a lot of lying ye
Just to make sure that an iron kin doesn't get discovered on your ship
urban spire
could probably sneak one under the radar by adding a punch card slot and making a deal with a crooked explorator though
queen laurel
could probably sneak one under the radar by adding a punch card slot and making ...
Yeah but let's be honest like everytime you meet a red roobie runt better configure that guy into a smart fridge lest the entire crew gets positioned to the garbage shoot
urban spire
hey it's been working out for ur-025
queen laurel
That is true
summer mural
are tempestus aquilons schola trained
storm jungle
yes
urban spire
ur-025 does have a slightly similar design aesthetic to kin technology
i wonder if that's intentional
summer mural
and are they their own regiment or are they just a type of scion that can fly
storm jungle
it is
urban spire
oh, well ok then
storm jungle
its important to remember his look is literally a mechanicus robot
that isnt how he actually looks
storm jungle
and are they their own regiment or are they just a type of scion that can fly
Sub-regiment of Scions that do drop operations
its not even flying, its just parachuting in
celest dome
Grav chutes like the Elysian
urban spire
kastellan robots are a bit more, idk, shaped?
celest dome
(Which Imo should make it possible to work like a Jump pack)
summer mural
also scions are like, assigned to different regiments right
storm jungle
They are spec ops
they are given orders then attached to whoever the plot deems relevant
Inquisitors, Rogue Traders, Imperial Guard campaigns, officers, etc
anyone
queen laurel
ur-025 does have a slightly similar design aesthetic to kin technology
You can try passing it off as a kastelan robot
very similar after all one is just more sleek looking
urban spire
idk they're a LOT shorter
queen laurel
idk they're a LOT shorter
Urban class kastelan robot
Just say it's from a forge world that doesn't have a lot of resources and therefore they miniaturised them
Lie like a politician
summer mural
do the traitor guardsmen get their own version of tempestus scions
storm jungle
nope
storm jungle
Read.
celest dome
do the traitor guardsmen get their own version of tempestus scions
IG Regiments don't get Scions
But they get Regimental Stormtroopers (Think Karskin, Grenadiers...)
Those can exist in the IG
urban spire
they gotta stop saying all the super soldiers are perfectly brainwashed and mind controlled that shit's so lame
queen laurel
just paint them red
Well if they complain about size, i guess you don't have to worry about that if you get a steel jack on your crew
Though this one is much less likely
celest dome
ISn't the problem with Steeljacks that you need that other Ironkin that control them ?
summer mural
IG Regiments don't get Scions
But they get Regimental Stormtroopers (Think Karsk...
yeah but I think not every regiment has their own scion equivalent, also theres stuff on the lexi about scions getting assigned to regiments and those guardsmen mocking them because they are outsiders with shiny gear
normal light
do the traitor guardsmen get their own version of tempestus scions
Depends
celest dome
Thses
queen laurel
ISn't the problem with Steeljacks that you need that other Ironkin that control ...
They can function on their own but they are more effective with a strategist
urban spire
traitor guard is pretty poorly developed isn't it
normal light
Chaos boons plus any high-end gear they have = some decent heretic stormtroopers
urban spire
like as a faction
normal light
traitor guard is pretty poorly developed isn't it
You mean?
summer mural
the moebian 6th is ok tbh
urban spire
i mean it's been a long-ass time since they got anything resembling a codex
normal light
i mean it's been a long-ass time since they got anything resembling a codex
Unfortunately Lost and Damned are not a thing anymore
They are part of Chaos Space Marine codex with their own detachment
Centered about playing mostly mortal units
celest dome
traitor guard is pretty poorly developed isn't it
Non-SM Chaos is yes
urban spire
it's a shame, really
celest dome
40k is sadly SM centred
urban spire
yarp
celest dome
I want Moebian 6th Sentinel
summer mural
Well they have a lot of gear
and ogryns
celest dome
As monsters
normal light
I want Moebian 6th Sentinel <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
Leman Russ 
celest dome
Wouldn't work
normal light
and ogryns
True
celest dome
Unless as lord
summer mural
moebian 6th needs elite troops, like their grenadiers
normal light
Wouldn't work
I know
normal light
moebian 6th needs elite troops, like their grenadiers
Mhm, Scab Gunners?
Looks pretty elite to me
celest dome
Shotgunners are their equivalent for Shocktroops
normal light
scab gunners seem kinda standard
In comparison to their regular troops, gunners are their kasarkins
urban spire
it'd be cool if they had a chance of spawning a coordinated spec ops squad of some kind
urban spire
nah fs is a good developer, they just don't work very fast
summer mural
they can give us new boss fight though, what if instead of one you get a boss squad to kill as a bossfight
celest dome
Having the Blooded Kill Team appear would be nice. Like Commissar Lord with Ogryn bodyguard, and there there other member of the Kill Team that spawn too as stronger variants
normal light
Perhaps that one ogryn boss from files
urban spire
it'd be pretty scary running into a competent and coordinated squad of just regular fellas
give them a grenade launcher and a squad suppression weapon, have the rest of them just take accurate shots? spooky
celest dome
Watch people mald cause the game is being unfair
urban spire
yeah that already happened with the scabs unfortunately
celest dome
Or the Beastmen in Vt2
Like any person that currently still complain about Beastmen is just showing skill issues and should be muted
urban spire
i swear running into squads of scab shooters who used cover and flanked was way more common at launch
summer mural
it depends on difficulty
sacred ginkgo
i swear running into squads of scab shooters who used cover and flanked was way ...
You just noticed them more
Because they were more of a threat
Now you can just charge them with impunity on every class
summer mural
on higher difficulties you get so much elite spam , audio cues cut, massive trains and pack of elites, you dont really notice scab shooters
celest dome
The player need some severe nerf tbh
celest dome
Then we can also scale down the enemy side
urban spire
that's not happening though, playerbase would riot
summer mural
what they should do is nerf quantities and improve quality of enemies, like instead of fighting 15 crushers just make it 3 crushers with more dangerous stuff and better moveset
because lemme tell you, fighting 15 crushers is Not fun
or bulwark trains
urban spire
correct
it also limits build variety at the high end, since if you don't have something that can deal with 15 crushers and the saintly matchmaker graciously puts you in a team where nobody else can either...
celest dome
Crusher and Bulwark should be made rarer by having the Mauler and a shield equivalent be stronger
opaque coyote
This is a proper chaos bodyguard
Honestly
More mutated Abhumans sound cool
Like that Ogryn has a fucking lobster claw
sacred ginkgo
This is a proper chaos bodyguard
Blackstone continuing to have peak models
opaque coyote
Although I find it funny that he's
Literally carrying the Undivided sign for
Basically zero reason
I think he's carrying it on his back anyways
Idk knowing Chaos it could be melded within him
opaque coyote
But either way I find it fucking funny
sacred ginkgo
I could go grab mine for a better perspective view if you want
opaque coyote
It’s grafted through his right shoulder
Wondering how the fuck did he get it grafted onto there.
Did some chaos MFS decide to like
opaque coyote
I could go grab mine for a better perspective view if you want
Ye
opaque coyote
Wondering how the fuck did he get it grafted onto there.
Did some chaos MFS dec...
Pin him down and surgically add it?
Did the Ogryn have an accident while carrying the symbol?
opaque coyote
Either it was a horde of slaves
Or like three space marines
Or they had to actually use anesthesia just so that he didn't y'know
Fucking break out
storm jungle
Literally carrying the Undivided sign for
The chaos star is not always a sign of undivided, its usually just there so people can go "oh right this guy is evil/chaos-alligned"
opaque coyote
I doubt that purely because Chaos MFS want pain
