40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

All we know is their discovery order

Which puts 11th very early on

And 2nd before Alpharius/Omegon

One of the tempestus Aquillons minis does this

[storm jungle]

EVERY single info we have of the lost primarchs is here:

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Two_unknown_legions

This entire page is all we got essentially

it sources and references every single mention they get lol

[idle phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-16890160374034355907

[crystal forum]

has arbitor ian made a lost primarch video yet

he must crush the dreams of all niche lore nerds

[storm jungle]

He off-handedly has mentioned them here and there

[crystal forum]

💀

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

imagine being a guardsman and opening your uplifting primer for toiler paper only to find some of the most censored information in the entire imperium

[storm jungle]

the best part is shit like that happened IRL too

its very funny

[crystal forum]

i think this is a little bit extra though 😭

[storm jungle]

Also: https://youtu.be/wL39MSbwTOg

3 years ago man

how time flies

[crystal forum]

there has to be a few BL writers who REALLY want to be the ones to write about the lost legions

[arctic talon]

The original warmaster was a Solar auxilia or imperial army nerd

[storm jungle]

I doubt GW would allow it

it was always written to be a mystery for the sake of mystery

[crystal forum]

yeah GW would never let it happen

but i just know some BL really want it

[storm jungle]

yeah hence all the "hints" we got over the last 30 years

some of them really wanted to sneak in some stuff lol

[crystal forum]

im with the headcannon that one of the lost primarchs allied themselves with xenos

since it cant possibly be chaos or it would ruin the HH a lot

[storm jungle]

its not even headcannon its basically fact

since one 100% got either mind controlled or changed "sides"

[crystal forum]

i also think of one them is still alive for some reason

like hiding at the edge of the galaxy

[storm jungle]

Maybe, who knows

[crystal forum]

and the only crime he did was not want to fight lol

[storm jungle]

yeah thats one theory i actually like

[rocky gale]

Isn't there a suggestion that one of them is locked in the Black Cells

[storm jungle]

Yeah in the last edition custodian codex

[crystal forum]

the only primarch with a spine

[storm jungle]

it was regarding their number

[storm jungle]

the fact that the thing the Imperium finds so "abhorrent" being the fact that like

one of the Primarchs either was raised by xenos/went "native"

or simply didnt want to fight, etc

ironically is much better than some lame ass chaos related thing or falling to some mind control bullshit

[crystal forum]

yeah chaos would suck ass

[storm jungle]

Yeah we got an entire fucking sub-setting out of it

i had enough for now lmao

[crystal forum]

it would also explain why some of the hints about them show that the living primarchs are sad about it

like all they did was not want to obey the emperor

not actively fight the imperium

[rocky gale]

The actual reason is that there were actually two previous Horus Heresy's, but every previous time the Emperor won, "Horus" got banished and then the Emperor would wipe all their memories and choose another Horus.

[storm jungle]

😭

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crystal forum]

i think there's evidence that there was some actual mind wiping going on after the lost primarchs got lost

but then you'd wonder if the emperor could get rid of primarchs so easily then why was horus such a surprise

[storm jungle]

Nah not even evidence like

Malcador literally outright says it to Dorn

the stuff was so bad they personally asked for their memories ot be erased

[crystal forum]

just hyping up the events we'll never truly know

[storm jungle]

pretty much

again its been 30 years and the lore still essentially tells us nothing which is good, we shall see if they can keep it going

[rocky gale]

The Emperor was actually at Grox burger and the server said "Enjoy your meal" and the Emperor said "You to" and the Lost Primarchs were both witnesses.

[crystal forum]

we'll see when they finish the scouring

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

No other option

[crystal forum]

more like the sequeling

[storm jungle]

See i was about to say thats the thing

if you look at the lexi page, half the other non-30k sources are from current setting novels as well

so its essentially inescapable

[rocky gale]

Maybe that's why Pandemonium is on hold

[crystal forum]

inevitably if it does get expanded it will be much worse than whatever we can imagine about it

since they hyped it so much

[storm jungle]

100%

thats what always happens

[rocky gale]

Would be pretty funny if the next Primarch model to get released wasn't Russ or Perturabo or anything, it was just completely out of the blue one of the Lost Primarchs

[crystal forum]

lmao

for 40k

[storm jungle]

and worse

its a woman

aka end of the world

😔

[crystal forum]

i would bust

[storm jungle]

LOL

(same)

its never happening but its a funny thought

[crystal forum]

the community would literally implode

(good ending)

[storm jungle]

ill be frank

id be entirely wanting it for the meltdown

[crystal forum]

that's my entire motivation too

the game would get a lot of publicity from the workshopgate or whatever chuds will call it

[rocky gale]

Cawl "And the best part is with her recovered geneseed, we can now make female Space marines for every Legion"

Guilliman "Good"

distant screeching

[storm jungle]

LOL

[crystal forum]

god forbid we get a little model variety for space marines

[storm jungle]

alas, never

but jokes aside

I legit cannot wait for the lost primarch reveal because its gonna be the lamest reveal ever

GW cannot resist themselves ever

[crystal forum]

would be funny if female space marines get the same armor as males so all GW does is sell head transfers

[storm jungle]

Thats 100% what they'd do tbh

GW also loves unisex ranges

[arctic talon]

It’s what they did for stodes

[storm jungle]

(and also still do them with new sets)

[arctic talon]

Except stodes didn’t even get the head

So do it yourself

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[crystal forum]

it's also because it would take so much redoing of existing model kits

[storm jungle]

im sure they'll release some later

becase like

even the fucking chaos dwarves

[arctic talon]

It’s inevitable

[storm jungle]

got female minis

in that month or so ago reveal

lol

[crystal forum]

i dont think GW have the balls

[storm jungle]

Nah they dont

its WAY too much of a big change

the fanbase is ingrained with space marines as guys

its why im way more content with femtodes

since they are essentially superior transhumans

and it makes the astartes creation process even more caveman-like lol

[crystal forum]

i just

need it to happen

[storm jungle]

same, we'll see i guess who knows

again GW legit has been very actively pushing diversity in their sets post-2018

and its been going VERY well

years prior you'd barely see any female minis unless it was some individual character and all the sets were just generic white plastic dudes 😩

[crystal forum]

are there female votaan

[storm jungle]

Yep

have been since the first codex

both in minis and artwork

[crystal forum]

never seen any

i didnt even think they had genders since clones

[storm jungle]

because you dont pay attention to anything unless its Guard

[crystal forum]

what about ironkin

do they have genders

[rocky gale]

They can if they want

[storm jungle]

^

Ironkin are essentially robot dwarves

they are treated like living individuals by the Kin

[crystal forum]

that's pretty cool

[storm jungle]

Yeah lol

[crystal forum]

lesbian ass haircut

[storm jungle]

correct

[rocky gale]

The latest Codex even confirmed that the Ironkin can be Khals and any of the higher ranks, they're just rarer in the very top positions because the extra stress causes their systems to degrade faster

[storm jungle]

Yeah aka they literally can age and die

god votann lore is so cool

[crystal forum]

never seen a votaan augment before

[storm jungle]

They got tons in artwork

[crystal forum]

that shit looks rad

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

rad is good

[crystal forum]

what's that fire sword

[rocky gale]

Friend got the new codex a few hours ago and he's just rereading it over and over

[storm jungle]

its a plasma-sword

based af

[crystal forum]

they have light sabers

[storm jungle]

its not light

[crystal forum]

it's so over

[crystal forum]

i thought those were funky power swords on tabletop

[storm jungle]

These weapons make substantial use of plasma fields to either wreathe the blade or form the blade itself. Such weapons scythe through physical shields and body armor with ease.

They basically are

you can see the power node on the sword

its just better imperial tech

since they share the STC template ala humans but with better tweaks as the Leagues arent so backwards

[crystal forum]

i cant be tempted by non imperial factions

i will be stuck in the loreless part of the community

[storm jungle]

Bruh

[crystal forum]

imagine having the best drip yet one book

[storm jungle]

Tbh most people dont care about the book atm they are here for the lore

Leagues lore especially is also super neat

[crystal forum]

i need more

we have the groundworks yeah

but where's the fluff

i NEED steeljack lore

like GW just dropped those out of nowhere

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Rogal Dorn Tank moment

still no lore

[crystal forum]

i love that you even know it exists

[storm jungle]

well yeah because everyone made a huge deal of how sill yit is

"heres this brand new tank named after a primarch because we are out of ideas"

[crystal forum]

i thought i was the only one

anyways it's popular on tabletop

[storm jungle]

wait until it gets nerfed

and dropped down the chute

[crystal forum]

it's just that it's an extra big tank option

there was nothing really between leman russ and baneblade

and baneblade is a meme unit

[storm jungle]

tbh there didnt need to be any either

but memes is memes

[surreal nest]

Are you being fr

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

i dont know anybody who bought a baneblade with the sole intent of playing with it

[surreal nest]

This is heartbreaking news

I thought it would fucking devastate

[crystal forum]

it's way more popular with the model crowd

[crystal forum]

big expensive units rarely are meta

[surreal nest]

Well i didnt expect meta but is it like bad

[crystal forum]

not bad per se

just not really good over its lifetime

[rocky gale]

Friend was telling me about the lore of one of the Leagues in the new Codex, the Urani-Surtr Regulates. Previous codex mentioned that they'rein a protracted war with a Necron dynasty and that any other League would have fell back and abandoned the contested territory but for some reason the URSR refuse to back down. While keeping their reason incredibly secret.

New Codex confirmed that they have discovered an ancient Votann Ancestor Core that is sleeping but still functional, older than any still operational in the galaxy and they are trying desperately to hold the line until they can find some way of waking it.

[storm jungle]

YEAH I love that new lore with them and their doomsday plot device like most other advanced factions in the setting, its super damn neat

[surreal nest]

Ok good good because when I hear meme weapon or meme unit I think like worst possible

[storm jungle]

iirc the codex also says since its been never activated its mind is "fresh"

[crystal forum]

another case of a macguffin going nowhere?

[storm jungle]

and can like provide them with way more OP shit if activated

[arctic talon]

The baneblade is a meme machine

It’s never been good due to the fact it’s way too big on the tabletop

[crystal forum]

it's an expensive model you buy to be the centerpiece of your collection but it stays on the shelf mostly

[arctic talon]

If you bring it it’s hard to maneuver

[rocky gale]

It's not really a McGuffin, it's just the reasoning for a specific Leagues way of operating

[storm jungle]

^

[surreal nest]

I am going to force myself to use it in my mechanized force at least once

[crystal forum]

oldest core in the galaxy seems pretty important knowledge wise

[storm jungle]

it also gives you plot incentive if you play/run them as an army or just have a Kindred based in that League

[arctic talon]

There’s no guarantee it’s functional

Tbf

[rocky gale]

Like they're super secretive and far more stubborn than regular Kindred would be because they're defending this and don't want anyone else to know about it

[crystal forum]

will we ever know though

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

probably years later

[crystal forum]

i think that's what defines a 40k macguffin

[arctic talon]

Prolly a few editions down the line

[crystal forum]

like does it actually matter

[arctic talon]

Maybe

[surreal nest]

This was like the best warhammer box ever I love it

[storm jungle]

a 40k mcguffin is usually relegated to novels

[arctic talon]

Double dorn double dorn

[storm jungle]

this is just codex fluff

[rocky gale]

Yea the plot importance of it isn't whether or not it works, it's that the importance gives the League it's narrative reasoning

[storm jungle]

^

so its not that big of a deal

its not a plot hook

[arctic talon]

The dorn was GW’s second round

Of trying to make a massive tank that worked

[storm jungle]

its just for you the player whos a League fan to do stuff around it or come up with narrative shit

[arctic talon]

And it worked by not being comically huge

[surreal nest]

And brother it worked

[storm jungle]

a lot of codexes do these

[crystal forum]

i wonder how old it could be

[arctic talon]

Most codexes give hooks which is nice

[storm jungle]

pre-imperium

going back to DAOT

[crystal forum]

yeah of course lmao

thats all cores ye

[storm jungle]

I mean thats how old it is lol

yeah

[crystal forum]

but like could it be so old it was made before the votaan ancestors went to the core

[surreal nest]

The leman russ is such a baby tank I love it

[crystal forum]

that would be a twist

[storm jungle]

probably, who knows

[crystal forum]

terminus decree

[storm jungle]

the decree wasnt a hook

it was just flavor text

[crystal forum]

it gives an actual reason for GK to exist

[storm jungle]

I mean no it doesnt

[crystal forum]

in the larger plot

[storm jungle]

GK exist because daemons exist

[crystal forum]

GK are just supporting characters whenever they're used

[arctic talon]

Terminus decree was never a hook

It was always flavor text

lol

[storm jungle]

kill him Elite

im falling asleep

[crystal forum]

use the gamma pistol i made you wolf

[arctic talon]

Okay jokes aside the difference between a lore blurb and a hook

Is that a lore blurb is just worldbuilding/random lore

And a codex hook gives you a reason to build on something

And for army/hobbying motivations

[storm jungle]

Yeah and a mcguffin is a plot hook in novels/campaign books

which HAS to go somewhere

and have a conclusion

[crystal forum]

i feel like GK do need a motivation beyond just going around killing demons

[storm jungle]

evne if its lame or satisfying

[storm jungle]

its the entire reason they were created tbh

you cant really tweak that

[crystal forum]

it's as boring as BL lore

[storm jungle]

bruh

[crystal forum]

not lore i mean

[arctic talon]

The GK’a lore is fine

[crystal forum]

just their whole motivation

[arctic talon]

Like they’re a silver bullet faction to an extent

But imo it’s fine

[crystal forum]

idk how somebody can be a hard core GK fan

what kind of lore can you create about it

[arctic talon]

KILL DAEMONS

Kill chaos corrupted stuff

Kill CSM and cultists

If you like the idea of killing chaos

Then GK are great

They’re basically evil dnd paladins

But not that evil

[tough haven]

‘Ate cultists
‘Ate daemons
‘Ate people standing up
‘Luv Draigo
Simple as

[paper haven]

Except for all the collateral damage, sure

[arctic talon]

They honestly cause less long term damage then the mechanicus when fighting wars lol

Shits always fucked radiation wise after the mechanicus are done

[queen laurel]

mechanicus are also one of the few factions that know about the gray knights yes

[opaque coyote]

Who has more plot armor?

[opaque coyote]

Silver...

Grey...

...

I mean they literally are a silver bullet faction. They're even colored silver ffs

They specialize against one area of threat. Daemons and Cultists

"I'm here to kill Chaos" ahh

[arctic talon]

Depends on specialization and rank

[queen laurel]

Well at least still a few members

[opaque coyote]

This is gonna be a stupid question.

But I'm gonna ask it anyways.

Do Inquistors outside of the Ordo Malleus and Hereticus know about Grey Knights? Would somebody on the Ordos Xenos know about them, or only surface level since it's not in their area of expertise.

What about their underlings? Like interrogators in their retinue for example

[arctic talon]

Yes

It depends

At the end of the day

But not all malleus inqusitors known either

lol

In Imperium malidictum the ability to request grey knight intervention as an acolyte of Ordo malleus

Is referred to as “REDACTED” Sanction

[opaque coyote]

Do they at least know they

Exist? Or not even that

Like is that common knowledge for all Inquistors or is it just dependant.

[arctic talon]

And the only description for them is, “calls forth the Hammer of Ordo Malleus, there will be consequences for their intervention”

[arctic talon]

It depends

But once you’re decently experienced you’ll know

[opaque coyote]

Omnious

[arctic talon]

The one for Ordo xenos is “deathwatch sanction” and the description is, requisition a deathwatch Killteam to intervene or assist in a situation

[opaque coyote]

I guess to make sure that no Inquistor calls them for something relatively minor.

Like "there needs to be at least five greater daemons".

[arctic talon]

And the Ordo hereticus one is “Sororitas sanction” and the description is the same but replace it with battle sisters

[arctic talon]

The meta text for the GM says execute your players if they call it and the planet isn’t either exploding into a daemon world, there’s a greater daemon and major daemonic incursion, or a minor daemonic incursion has gotten extremely bad

lol

[opaque coyote]

Calls forth the Sisterhood of the Emperor, there will be consequences for their intervention

"Of course I know there's CONSEQUENCES. I'M LITERALLY FACING THEM RIGHT FUCKING NOW JUST HURRY UP THERE'S LIKE 10,000 CULTISTS."

[arctic talon]

But yeah the other 2 you just get in trouble for calling them in Willy nilly

The grey knights just blow your fucking head off on the spot

lol

[opaque coyote]

Meanwhile in Darktide:

"Only two Chaos Spawn? This mission is easy."

[arctic talon]

Tbh the malidictum characters are lore wise pretty low on the totem pole

Power wise lol

You’re like the shitty C team of an inqusitor

[opaque coyote]

I'm just imagining somebody calling the grey knights for something inane. One looks around, sees nothing wrong, and then immediately pops the guy in the head.

"There's always one every century..."

[arctic talon]

But yeah imperium maledictum is hilarious because you’re so low down

On the totem pole, power/lore wise

[opaque coyote]

So basically similar to Darktide. Except probably slightly better than a death row inmate.

[arctic talon]

Like even in the inqusition module you’re the “fuck ups”/C and D listers

Of the inqusitor lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The only time where you’re elite is like

Random administratum scribe is your boss

Or literal criminals are your boss

[opaque coyote]

So basically.

"I cannot be bothered to send my team out. Just send these fuckers. If they die, then something's actually wrong."

[arctic talon]

Then yeah, no shit a defector from the guard would clobber the shit out of the average ganger

[arctic talon]

Yeah basically

[opaque coyote]

...God this sounds fun to play

...

$150??

[arctic talon]

Maledictum?

[opaque coyote]

Oh wait that's the collector's edition

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Oh the collectors edition

[opaque coyote]

Checking it out in GW's website

[arctic talon]

Cubicle 7/drive through RPG

Sell it

Since it’s cubicle 7’s stuff

Least shitty hiveworld

[opaque coyote]

Rain, sky cannot be seen despite said rain, more smog than air, crowded, mass violence and censorship

...

So London then

[radiant lance]

How should I disappoint the Emperor tonight?

[cyan merlin]

Why doesn’t the imperium use nuclear hand grenades

[tough haven]

If you like that, wrath and glory is another good one if you want more options/more heroic stuff, but IM is perfect if you want that “one in ten billion” feel

Also by cubicle 7

[summer mural]

How good are voidsmen anyway

[tough haven]

Random question, can daemons in realspace physically see a blank? I know they can’t see them psychically, but surely daemons can still see in the visual spectrum

[summer mural]

Probably?

Don't they get repelled

Or feel repelled

[tough haven]

Somewhere between guardsman and tempestus

[tough haven]

Yes

It fucking hurts to just be near a blank

[summer mural]

Oh they are more competent than the average guardsman?

[tough haven]

If they’re strong enough it can force them back into the warp or even banish them permanently

[summer mural]

They'll probably be an answer in the cain stories

With his blank sidekick

[tough haven]

It depends, but I think they tend to be fairly competent

[median star]

maybe we should juice blanks and throw that at demons

[tough haven]

I don’t think it works that way

But good idea

We could just throw blanks at the daemons

[median star]

we should try just in case

[tough haven]

Then you get to reuse the blank

[median star]

science and all

[tough haven]

We don’t do science in the 41st millennium

We do science, lie about it, and say it was in a STC

[median star]

ancient stc of oddly human sized blender

[tough haven]

“This was from an STC? A mason jar filled with the blood of a Blank?”

“Yup, it was really weird, but who am I to question the will of the ancients and all that”

[summer mural]

Culexus are cool

They are blanks aren't they

They seem like the deadliest a blank can get

[brazen terrace]

What is the lore for this glass of juice, is juice a thing in 40k?

[arctic talon]

Specialized at their job. Which they’re good at

Repelling boarders/boarding

[summer mural]

Assassins are so wildly good

[arctic talon]

They’re all transhuman

[summer mural]

The Imperium didn't hold back on what they wanted with the assassins

I want a sniper

Like the sniper

Perfected to sniperhood

[sour hornet]

Alright.

Depends on the ship, the crew, and where that ship goes.

Shitty logistics vessels traveling a safe charter route for the 3,000th time in a tucked away part of imperial space will likely have a dogass security crew

A battlefleet traveling to say... Vigilus, will likely be well trained and up to their jobs.

[sour hornet]

Daemons aren't physical beings very much. They have physical bodies, but only for the purpose of existing in realspace. Just because they have "eyes" doesn't mean they will use them the same way.

They have lungs, and can be strangled to death, but do not need air in any way whatsoever.

They have spines that can be broken to kill them, but don't really require a nervous system.

[opaque coyote]

https://youtube.com/shorts/172bGakKjm4?si=lBkYSmpkfFTsxzas

https://youtube.com/shorts/lXxxhdjmHCE?si=F6qkIXCFiU0ig1DT

Is this accurate?

[opaque coyote]

Also clearly when Horus got stabbed by the poop knife

He saw this

[crisp heath]

The poop knife

[celest dome]

Just realised that Mechanicus 2 will have playable Khepra ❤️

Sceavola, Rho, Khepra, Videx and Tiresu (?)
Will be commanders

[storm jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1mxtn92/please_stop_trying_to_judge_40k_characters_by/

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

this fucking fandom man i swear

[celest dome]

A mere 70-80 years ago segregation was considered moral and right by a large chunk of the US population. Tell your average person today that you believe in segregation and they would be (rightly and correctly) appalled by the thought. Each generation criticizes the morality of the previous and more things become acceptable as others become vilified.
Do people understand that just because something is legal, doesn't mean you have to accept it as moral ?

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY.

I always hated the "we cant apply our modern view to these people" argument in general btw, its such a copout for any subject.

[crisp heath]

Also the other thing I notice is we have a whole generation of people w opinions they would die on a hill for, on things they have never experienced

[storm jungle]

^

[crisp heath]

I dont know where this fits in but ye

[storm jungle]

It that general view of "well how can WE know"

because we got tons of references and evidence to go off of it maybe?

[green loom]

"You can't judge galactic genocide by our modern standards bro!"

[rocky gale]

How dare we judge modern fictional characters, by modern standards, what if it hurts their feelings

[storm jungle]

One of the top comments says it the best imo

these are characters written by modern people

of coruse we can judge them, fuck off

[crisp heath]

Are we really that advanced tho or do we just like to make a big deal of being social justice chuds ?

I shall ponder this

[celest dome]

Well there is certainly going to be soem things that the future human (well if they exist) who will look at out time in the consideration that what we did is bad, and certainly there are already people clamouring about those things already

Be it ecology/polution, maybe veganism/meat consumption...

[crisp heath]

Like you look at the people in power and you could say well there just as bad as these fictional creations

[storm jungle]

I mean

40k was built on political and authoritarian satire

unfortunately the shit those said people do today are sometimes comparable to things these evil cartoon characters do in warhammer novels

(or surpasses them ngl)

[crisp heath]

That's what i mean 😭

Wtaf lol

[storm jungle]

"TECHNICALLY its not genocide."

[crisp heath]

😭 😭

[storm jungle]

uaaaagh end me

[queen laurel]

Average black templar player defending the emperor upon his action some blowing up the world made to worship him

[surreal nest]

Bro what the actual fuck

Does this dude think that xenophobia and mass murder and slavery being bad is a modern day value

Was Hitler just a ambitious trailbrazer to this dude

[green loom]

(they're glorified in most movies set in those time periods so yes)

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

This guy would lap up Nazi propaganda

Like pretty blatantly

I mean his actual argument is "you can't judge them because they're in a bad spot"

[surreal nest]

Can that user please get tazed

[green loom]

Not this fake moral panic or whatever

Which his actual argument is also weak seeing as about 80% of the threats to 40k humanity are literally the direct result of the Emperor

[surreal nest]

yeah its literally the same cognitive dissonance that helldivers fans unironically vomit up not realizing that every enemy you are fighting is a manufactured hostile from actions by super earth

[green loom]

There's his alt too trying to say "well umm the emperor is old and is executing a millenia long plan to keep humanity alive!"
The guy was notoriously stupid and arrogant, his fellow perpetuals literally stayed away from him because he's a maniacal dictator

[storm jungle]

One of the reasons why I'll always hate authors from trying to make him a good guy, Abnett especially

that closing words from him at the end of End and Deaf Part 3 of "you the reader should decide just like these characters if the emperor was right, justified or an evil person or not"

fuck off, honestly lol

[green loom]

He's justified to himself but I'm not sure even that's true

As far as I've read he's basically riding the coat tails of a martyr complex and winning downwards

[surreal nest]

Trying to figure out if the emperor was ever justified is just like trying to argue that well actually hitler did save their economy and its not something i ever want to try to argue

[crisp heath]

[surreal nest]

i think its pretty blatant everything he did was selfish and freakish

[green loom]

(for the record the Nazis actually outright didn't save the economy, they picked up a healing economy from the Weimar and then looted a large portion of the population and started pillaging Europe )

[crisp heath]

I was just going to say they didn't save their economy they just stole off all their neighbors

[surreal nest]

i was not advocating for anything I was comparing warhammer fans to nazis

[storm jungle]

I mean

not wrong

[surreal nest]

we arent allowed to have fun media that portrays humanity's worst because mfs will look at it and be like erm actually this is me fr

[green loom]

It's just a fkn

Painful thing

Where people see "justification" and think it means "they're right actually"

[surreal nest]

my homebrew solution to scaring them away is to spray deodorant and paint pride colors on my miniatures

[green loom]

Like the imperials justify stuff for themselves, and due to the massive skew of imperium centred content, that justification looks valid in a vacuum

Especially when they portray marines and shit as good guys

"wow this salamander saved a child, now she can grow up to be a member of the secret police, or Die at 20 in the local slave factory!"

[surreal nest]

we did it guys we saved the galaxy

[green loom]

Where do those civilians go GW where do they go

[crisp heath]

Man andor is good , I didn't realise Andy serkis was in it!

(Andy serkis plays wh40k)

[rocky gale]

Damn, I thought he was cool. Guess he's just a nerd

[crisp heath]

Wym he's cool as heck

[queen laurel]

"Friendly fire will not be tolerated"

[storm jungle]

Best arc in S1

[crisp heath]

Just halfway through ep 8

[storm jungle]

Oh you just wait

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

Like obviously not even a spoiler they are gonna break out

but man its so fucking epic when it happens

[crisp heath]

I was like ok surely we are not gonna be waiting 6 years 😂

Bro

Man was in the wrong place at the wrong time 😭

[storm jungle]

Dude thats one of the best scenes in that entire thing

"You look suspicious. Why are you sweating?"

"Because its hot out here?"

https://tenor.com/view/andor-cassian-andor-andor-arrested-cassian-andor-arrested-star-wars-arrested-gif-12958601006441456673

legit too close to real life ngl

lmao

[crisp heath]

Whoa no no he Said watch WATCh

[rocky gale]

"Are you part of it?"
"Part of what?"
"I'm asking the questions"

[storm jungle]

^

Genuinely as funny as it is unsettling

they made this one trooper so offputting

[crisp heath]

There's a similar thing on fargo like this!

So you are saying the state is wrong?

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[crisp heath]

Guy literally pisses himself while he's getting interrogated

There saying he's someone he's not

And he killed his wife

[rocky gale]

It's the irony that he gets arrested for no reason because of laws that were put in place in response to what he actually did.

[storm jungle]

Yeah that.

Its done so well

[crisp heath]

Yeah , and the other big part is that they actually have no idea and have got the wrong person

But going against the establishment is a big no no

[storm jungle]

Especially if its just standing around, cant have that

[summer mural]

does the imperium have an official rock band

[crisp heath]

I like to think boltthrower got servitised and play eternally

But

[summer mural]

boltthrower?

[crisp heath]

You don't know bolt thrower?

[summer mural]

no

[crisp heath]

Old death metal band that used to have gw artwork on there albums

[summer mural]

...

LOL

[crisp heath]

They used to be the official sound track to warhammer iirc?

[celest dome]

There are probably some planet specific groups

But we don't really know any of them

[summer mural]

theres probably some cathedral choir singing during ceremonies

probably some local zealot enforcer singing in the streets

[celest dome]

Oh that does exist, we see if with the Sisters for example

[rocky gale]

Yea they march into battle singing hymns

While burning people alive

[summer mural]

what do they sing though? god emperor save the god emperor?

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/sister-of-battle-warhammer40k-flamer-adepta-sororitas-flamethrower-gif-15890264

[summer mural]

chaos definitely seem the rock n roll type, with noise marines having electric death guitars

[summer mural]

[crisp heath]

There music's actually pretty decent too

[summer mural]

that art is old for sure yeah

[crisp heath]

I think they were 80s

Not 100% tho

[rocky gale]

Probably some songs from Prince of Egypt, they go hard

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-guitar-badass-racing-gif-8527742

[tough haven]

What’s the title of a magos who’s area of study is the Warp?

[celest dome]

Divisio Psykana or maye Divisio Telepathica

Meme-Ghast

[storm jungle]

people really forget what the word "meme" even means anymore

[tough haven]

Something something, essence of the soul

[celest dome]

i'll be honest I don't know (well for English)

[rocky gale]

It's like a cultural element that spreads via imitation or non genetic reasons

[storm jungle]

^

[tough haven]

Effectively it’s any idea that’s “viral”

[celest dome]

Oh so it's really just meme as in the internet thing

[storm jungle]

no its not

its a concept that goes way back

[tough haven]

It is but it’s more too

Really it’s any cultural phenomenon

[summer mural]

I bet the tau have like, fine dining and recreational music

[tough haven]

Any thought or idea that can spread easily

[storm jungle]

its been around since the 70's

nowadays with the 2000's though it boils down to "internet joke"

[rocky gale]

Huh Richard Dawkins came up with it

[storm jungle]

but its still very apt in what it does

[summer mural]

He came up with the word yeah

For explaining cultural inheritance in genetics or something like that

[storm jungle]

Yeah and memes still very much shape cultural ideas and concepts

people said Abaddon is an Armless Failure for years

[summer mural]

Lol

[storm jungle]

and now most people take that as fact when its not

thats one example lol

[summer mural]

Wait it's not

Also, are cities like

[storm jungle]

^ and this people is an example of a person shaped by the idea of memes more than learning stuff themselves

[summer mural]

Those proper sci-fi advanced tech cities

Tau cities

[storm jungle]

Yes

[summer mural]

Do they have cafes and stuff

[celest dome]

Tau cities probably are better than Nightcity from Cyberpunk

[queen laurel]

Yeah you just thrown into a cast system

[summer mural]

I feel like the average tau probably has access to recreational facilities compared to the rest of the factions

And not the deldar kind

[crisp heath]

Is that from the tau codex?

I swear it is

[storm jungle]

the first one yes

[crisp heath]

Yes!!

I own that one

Somewhere

[summer mural]

Nice

[storm jungle]

yep its one of the best ones regarding artwork

[crisp heath]

I bought it when gw had the promotion of doing the codex art with the book on a canvas like thing

[storm jungle]

you own an actual relic

guard it well

[crisp heath]

[summer mural]

How recent is the addition of tau

They weren't there from the beginning right

To the setting itself, I don't mean inlore

[celest dome]

2001

[storm jungle]

^

they were added on 3rd edition

[celest dome]

ye

[summer mural]

So, I guess the original creators of the setting didn't create the race? Or maybe they did

[storm jungle]

The original creators left at like 2nd edition

[plush mason]

it has 2 meanings now

internet memes are just jokes

[storm jungle]

kind of, they can still spread ideas

[summer mural]

They are pearls of wisdom, don't let anyone convince you otherwise

[plush mason]

yeah but thats like using a comedy act to talk about philosophy, can you do it? sure but you ruin the act

[storm jungle]

You very much dont imo

memes can actually be weaponized and be harmful or contradictory

and very much sway the opinion of people

[celest dome]

Huh it seem like they may have renamed one of the Mechanicus character for the sequel, from Caprix to Captrix

[summer mural]

There was a Caprix ?

Who was that

[plush mason]

sadly true, people are stupid and easy to sway

[storm jungle]

Yeah we had 3 presidential campaigns in the US use memes to affect their campaigns

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Caprix
The one that told you to attack the lords iirc

Playable Khepra is enough for me

[summer mural]

It's so funny watching a video of jfk and Nixon debate, and then Trump debate anyone, jfk and Nixon were so cordial and actually conceded points in their debates

And those two men probably couldn't have disagreed more ideologically

[plush mason]

political debates have been dead since GW Bush sadly, they are nothing but shouting matches

[summer mural]

Meanwhile the Donald " HES A SLEEPY CROOK"

[plush mason]

and yet JFK still pardoned him

[celest dome]

That's cause Trump isn't a politician, he is a Show-man and/or ||a Scam artist||

[storm jungle]

^

[rocky gale]

Just ignore the longstanding history of political satire

[storm jungle]

Most of the scandals hes been in would a death sentence for most presidents

but people at this point dont care i guess lol

[celest dome]

Death of America

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/sip-drink-coffee-hot-drink-unimpressed-gif-11612795

[celest dome]

As it was

[storm jungle]

Truly a shame

[crisp heath]

I swear I saw this thing somewhere about meme culture and its impact on the world and how it can sometimes manifest shit into existence like the warp does lmao

[storm jungle]

I mean it can

[crisp heath]

It really can sometimes

[storm jungle]

the Warp example is dumb tho, thats paranormal nonsense lol

its just collective thinking

[celest dome]

It's sad cause it really is going down, America changing was needed, but not that way 💀

[crisp heath]

That was my example 😭

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[plush mason]

satire isnt really philosophy but telling the truth of the matter in an over the top and humorus/dreadful way

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/oocw-outofcontextwrasslin-oh-sad-sad-emoji-gif-15462661027727635708

[celest dome]

That sound like the Grimdank interpretation of the Ork gestalt field

[left talon]

Memes

The DNA of the soul

[storm jungle]

Said it already. Keep up.

anyway

But I get the thing hes saying im 100% sure I watched a video on that as well, might be the same vid actually lol

the 40k example is a great showcase of it ironically

since half of this fandom is like a mindless voter-base

[crisp heath]

😎

[near wasp]

This chat is a memetic hazard

[celest dome]

And are often acting against their best interest

[storm jungle]

"GW IS RUINING THIS HOBBY"

Says the person that doesnt even interact with the hobby

[plush mason]

most SNL skits are exactly what happens behind closed doors but more extreme

[left talon]

Being late is my specialty

[rocky gale]

Satire is comedy and politics is the philosophy of governance

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[plush mason]

fair

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Meme-Virus

[summer mural]

Does the steel legion ever get deployed somewhere outside armageddon

[storm jungle]

Yeah they do

[rocky gale]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Drifty i swear to god

read the lexicanum

lmao

[summer mural]

Damn, doesn't seem like they have the time

[crisp heath]

Oh lmao I'm simple I thought u meant me smh

[celest dome]

That's why you don't anwser their question, you're enabling them

[storm jungle]

uaghh

[left talon]

Well half the planet is chaos and the half of the other half is Orks

[rocky gale]

They still gotta pay their tithe

[storm jungle]

^

Considering theres still examples of armageddon regiments fighting in other parts of the galaxy during the Rift as well too lol

[summer mural]

imagine

the arbites get deployed to armageddon because they cant pay their tithe

" ah yes, first we fight through the armies of orks and chaos, then we go beat up the governor for not paying the tithe"

[storm jungle]

Their reaction would be basically that yes

arbites dgaf

they'll go toe-to-toe with nids lol

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-eliud-gifs-warhammer-40k-combate-warhammer-40k-escudo-warhammer-40k-adeptus-arbites-gif-13756464845549076582

[summer mural]

i can appreciate that actually

[near wasp]

Memetic hazard is knowledge that is dangerous to know. Like how knowing about chaos can make you more exposed to corruption

[storm jungle]

Same thing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

[summer mural]

oh ive never seen that clip

wheres it from

[near wasp]

Little different

[storm jungle]

Tithes series by GW

[near wasp]

Tithes is so good

[summer mural]

time to add it to the list

[storm jungle]

I loved all 2 out of 3 eps

[near wasp]

But fuck the third one just fucks me up

[storm jungle]

the Ultramarine one is slop but the others were great

[storm jungle]

"We dont have any avaliable space on the cargo platform."

https://tenor.com/view/jj-laughing-lol-haha-laugh-gif-17577715

[near wasp]

"burn it"

[storm jungle]

people got so mad at that, i love it

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[storm jungle]

some parts of this fanbase legit cant cope with the fact that the Imperium is self-defeating and incompetent

[surreal nest]

Just look at the overall warhammer community and their treatment of the lore

[storm jungle]

YEP

People still hate matt ward to this day

they werent even fucking born when that GK codex came out

[left talon]

Funny all I’ve heard is something something female custodies or something

[storm jungle]

That speaks more towards the circles you're in tbh

shes literally a medium part of 1 episode lol

[near wasp]

I can deal with that even if I don't like a lot about HOW they were introduced. Or the story they launched in tandem of it

[left talon]

My controller ran out while I was watching a lore video and that was the next one not my fault

[storm jungle]

The sentence is death

🫡

[surreal nest]

If I had a friend whose main takeaway from an animated series was the presence of a woman I would beat them to death with whatever I could find

[storm jungle]

LOL

[crisp heath]

The whole point is to mock human politics I thought

[storm jungle]

Basically yeah but like

theres a point where you kinda cant anymore

from how goofy IRL politics gets

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

see South Park

i think the creators outright said this

[celest dome]

Or the Onion

[storm jungle]

"Real life has gotten so cartoony we basically cant do anything with it"

[summer mural]

the point is to see everything every character does in 40k, then do the opposite in your life to live a wholesome existence

[surreal nest]

The white house tweets like the comedically corrupt governors in warhammer 40k lore present themselves its so fucking funny

[storm jungle]

DUDE

I made an edit of one of those

hold on

[left talon]

Also it was something I hadn’t heard much about yet anyway the custodies so I was curious on what the problem was

[crisp heath]

I haven't honestly really been paying attention to politics lately

[rocky gale]

Never forget the "Do not be tempted by the sin of empathy" tweet

[crisp heath]

Tbh w you I don't even understand most of it

[surreal nest]

My honest reaction

[crisp heath]

It's all kinda silly

[surreal nest]

No fucking way

[storm jungle]

I did this edit for a friend

it actually hurt show real it is LOL

[left talon]

They do be speaking like the governor in Krieg

[surreal nest]

So perfect

[summer mural]

tithes looks pretty good

its even got nice weapon variety

[surreal nest]

Is Tithes the multi episode series where like every episode's art style is different?

Like they had one about guardsmen vs orks and something about an inquisition squad and a temptus scion

[celest dome]

You're possibly thinking of Secret Level ?

[surreal nest]

No

[crisp heath]

Tithes is pretty good

[summer mural]

im watching guardsmen vs kommandos rn

[storm jungle]

Basically TLDR

Custodians didnt have women and just had men as members for like 10 years or so (even though it was never outright said them having female members couldnt be possible)
They finally get introduced in some fluff text as just members without any big reveal as having always been there

Thats it really. Basically the idea of transhuman women in power armor is scary to most of the fandom when its essentially the biggest "who cares" harmless addition into the lore.

[crisp heath]

My fav tithes one or the one w the possessed marine

[storm jungle]

thats Hammer & Bolter

[crisp heath]

Oh

[surreal nest]

Thats the one

I liked hammer and bolter

[left talon]

Me when they put the people with the strongest wills into the custodies

[summer mural]

so, are yall subscribed to warhammer plus, is the content worth

[storm jungle]

Real.

[storm jungle]

It is somewhat now

back then though absolutely not lol

[left talon]

Especially when that’s their entire thing

[storm jungle]

Pretty much yeah

[rocky gale]

For me it's mostly worth it for the exclusive minis alone

[near wasp]

Somehow the fandom didn't like 9 ft tall muscle women

[storm jungle]

custodians are suppose to be the Gigachad Example™ of humanity

[surreal nest]

There's just something about the art style of most Warhammer animations that look like etsy commissions to me

I can't get around it

[celest dome]

The next step per se

[storm jungle]

Dude I remember seeing a post which was like

"GW adds canonical giant muscle mommies to the setting and people are upset? This fandom deserves nothing "

[summer mural]

i like women in all the 40k organizations, except sisters of battle for some reason, ive never been fond of em

[left talon]

Nah they just want Rinda Karnak

[celest dome]

Nothing wrong said there

[surreal nest]

Last year's Kasrkin one was so awesome

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/lady-d-alcina-dimitrescu-lady-dimitrescu-bye-chat-gif-10469289342947976346

unrelated footage

[storm jungle]

thats based on an artwork too

[surreal nest]

Yep

I love it

[rocky gale]

I prefered the AoS one for that year

[surreal nest]

That artwork got me into guard

[storm jungle]

Kopinski strikes again

[rocky gale]

She makes a great Drukhari

[storm jungle]

thats the one

[summer mural]

damn, tithes has the best human with a chainsword vs ork duel ive ever seen, it looks plausible

[surreal nest]

I wish I got both

Its so fire

[near wasp]

I just didn't like the stupid ass story they added with female stodes because it's so brain dead

[surreal nest]

I'm sad I missed out on the World Eater Terminator

[crisp heath]

😃 🔫 I'm a fool

[celest dome]

This one is nice too

[rocky gale]

I got this one instead of the World eater, couldn't resist the little goobers

[rocky gale]

That's not Warhammer+, it was an event mini

[storm jungle]

A lot of gyatt in just a few posts, impressive

[surreal nest]

THE LITTLE KNIGHT IS SO CUTE WHAT

[crisp heath]

I think wh is not for me im too stoopid

[rocky gale]

This years the first time I actually got both because they're both so peak

[near wasp]

Lil guy

[storm jungle]

Warhammer is a very serious setting guys

no jokes allowed

[surreal nest]

Its giving sassy nurgling

[storm jungle]

Mini-Me ahh mini

[surreal nest]

Its a tough decision for me

[summer mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ZBwNg-5CI

[rocky gale]

The little guy also had like no assembly, he's just a whole ass little guy, you just stick him on a base

[surreal nest]

It makes me want to paint epic 30k

[near wasp]

I need a sassy nurgling to put on my computer

[surreal nest]

I lowk think I lost my warhammer plus miniature

[storm jungle]

"Excuse me Sigmarite, HE ASKED FOR NO PICKLES."

[green loom]

What he do

[near wasp]

Don't talk to me or my son again

[summer mural]

lmao

[misty vector]

My son really enjoyed being a chaos warrior for a day

[surreal nest]

I built him while outrageously unsober and I know hes going to turn out to be in my fridge or something stupid

[summer mural]

that sword on the kid is a lil

wild

[shadow plover]

I just found another box of these guys in the cupboard next to me yesterday and I have no recollection how I came to have two sets of them

[rocky gale]

Lucky

[surreal nest]

Ok ok fine I will take both boxes

[summer mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAV-sScYb9E I like how they did abaddons voice

its suitably evil cartoon

[shadow plover]

nu uh

[storm jungle]

Hes pretty big

no wonder hes the leader

[rocky gale]

Sadly the little guy doesn't actually have any rules, the little goobers are just extras/tokens with no actual effect while the big girl is a regular Chaos sorcerer

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are suppose to be like "familiars" i think?

[summer mural]

im assuming everything on warhammer plus is like...canon

[storm jungle]

hence why they all look like they came out of a Smurfs cartoon lol

[storm jungle]

Every official material made by GW is canon yes

also check your DMs

[left talon]

What lore does the sentinel have if any

[storm jungle]

Uh its one of the oldest minis on the range so quite a bit

but its not a lot since... well it sjust a combat walker lol

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sentinel

When the nascent Imperium reunited with the Knight Worlds during the Great Crusade, they found that, in addition to the Knights used in battle by the nobility, there were also lesser unarmed frames used by Drovers – the non-noble herdsmen who tended the fields and estates. One such popular and tested frame, the Drover suit, would be armed and adapted into the Sentinel widely used by the Imperial Army and Imperial Guard. [23]

[shadow plover]

Found the lil fellers, planning on creating a small scenery plint for the full group at some point

[misty vector]

Sentinels are really cool

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-galaxies-atst-r3-restoration-iii-gif-24193162

🫡

[celest dome]

And you have those 2 new ones for Horus Heresy

[storm jungle]

Sentinels but PREGNANT

[misty vector]

Second one kinda looks like a dreadnought without arms

And longer legs

Is that story about the perpetual engine sentinels that they dont turn off real

[storm jungle]

[shadow plover]

the leggy

legnaught

[storm jungle]

Ironically it looks still cool

lmao

I THINK theres literally a walker in Battlefield 2142 thats just this thing

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ironstrider_Engine

[shadow plover]

I mean kinda

[storm jungle]

Its based on some actual stuff IRL, I THINK its a lightbulb?

or something that people dont wanna turn off, i cant recall

also to "catch" the Ironstriders back they literally lasso them like horses lol

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/2142-true-fact-check-battlefield-battlefield-2142-gif-16594290371946302195

[rocky gale]

Another leak

Thankfully it's just a Space Marine, so nothing special

[storm jungle]

GYATT

[summer mural]

the admech definitely have some kind of western theme going on, with the revolver gunslingers and stuff

[storm jungle]

Its just one aspect of them for the skitarii largely

they are more Da Vinci too, a lot of 40k factions got a soup of cultures most of the time

[summer mural]

yeah except space wolves who are just like....more viking than the 100 season show about them

seems weird they missed out on samurai marines with samurai style armor, apparently there is a chapter like that

its just not prominent

even halo got their samurai spartan marketing tool

[storm jungle]

Probably just never got to invest in it much back in the day

[celest dome]

Still want a miniature that is a Diligence being pulled by a pair of Serbery

I love the Serberys

[summer mural]

i like the serberys too

i like the mounted skitarii cav in general

even the striders look nice

also this tithes episode is sick

I like the voice acting

[left talon]

Cool

[summer mural]

also, i feel like theres a lot of footage of apothecaries doing their job of collecting geneseed from their dead brothers alone

in hostile battlefields usually

even in the guilliman trailer theres just this one apothecary harvesting gene seed and a tyranid ambushes him

feels like its a regular enough important job they ought to send a squad with the poor guys everytime

[storm jungle]

Well they usually do but geneseed collection tends to happen post-battle

or when the battlefield the corpses are in is not covered in enemies

[summer mural]

well

[storm jungle]

but alas sometimes the Apoths gotta aura-farm

[summer mural]

the tithes ultramarine apoth is cool

hes just flexing to the salamander like " im an ultramarine, my blood is important, your zeal is questionable"
and the salamander just goes like " Im missing an entire arm and helping you do your job you degenerate ape, dont question my zeal again "

and the ultramarine " alright bro relax, thanks"

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Brutus caves in so fast in this episode too

shoulda insulted the Sally more

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I hope they expand on the Serberys being dogs that the Skitarii grew up alongside, maybe a Serberys Marshal whose Serberys look like a Bear instead of a horse.

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would be dope yeah

oh shit

second ep has a sister of silence, an arbitrator and a custodian all in the first 5 minutes

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[near wasp]

Yeah it's badass

First time we ever get to see a custodes fight I think

Christ wraight if you give me watchers of the throne 3 my life is yours!!!!

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the people confined are psykers right?

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

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or is it just the one guy

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Yeah they are all psykers

[near wasp]

They are the psyker tithe

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^

they got no idea they are going to Terra to be sacrificed

its why the astra-telepathica chick with the helmet lies to them

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so are they cringing in the beginning because of the shadow in the warp or because of the sister of silence blank

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"All is well."

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Shadow until the Sister steps in

[near wasp]

Well sacrificed or pushed into service

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right right

got it

[near wasp]

Because you get to live if you can be useful

[storm jungle]

id rather die than be a sanctioned psyker tbh

treated like a freak in every corner before you just get killed at some point

you are essentially a slave-mage

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also the sister telling everyone in sign " you and everyone else on this planet is doomed" and the custodian going " all is well" via translation LOL

[storm jungle]

lmao YEA

And nobody gets it

even tho shes being very honest

[near wasp]

Being a slave is better than getting your soul absorbed into big e

[storm jungle]

wild sentence 💀

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/hannibal-buress-right-booing-gif-13861878

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id rather die trying to steal one of these arbitrator shotguns and shooting them square on the mouth point blank

[storm jungle]

LMAO

its like that one meme

"Im gonna steal this cop's pistol"

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suicide by cop yes

thats exactly it

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LOL

I can appreciate arbitrator design here , looks cool

[near wasp]

I absolutely love the sister just saying the absolute truth and the stodes just stone walling her

Stand and die protocol engaged!

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also these are fake arbitrators, they have human voices
wheres the maul va

" QUAAAILLL BLOCKFODDDDER!"

[celest dome]

The joke is that even our arbites are Rejects per se

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i think that guy might just be a straight up psychopath among the ranks

[near wasp]

I mean you probably have to be psychopath to be an arbite

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well