what chart
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
what chart
Official visuals of humans using bolters
summer mural
if anything they need more bolters, there arent enough in supply
near wasp
I'm sure if you did use a space Marine bolter you'd break your arm
storm jungle
Probably not
it would just twist out your arm or kick hard
its like just firing a more powerful barrett 50.
and its already oversized so no point
summer mural
the real question is, can space marines use human sized bolters 
near wasp
The rounds nearly twice the size a of a .50 bmg
Bolters are .995 caliber in space Marine weapons and heavy bolters
summer mural
I wonder if the emperor had perfect accuracy at the firing range
dapper gyro
otherwise, 0.75in/20mm bolter.
queen laurel
A bolter is like .75 caliber
dapper gyro
Fun fact, there is .50cal bolter and .50cal stubber/autogun.
winged jacinth
the real question is, can space marines use human sized bolters <:loregryn:10365...
They'd need to cut the trigger guard lol
summer mural
They'd need to cut the trigger guard lol
would their finger even fit on the trigger
dapper gyro
Bolters are .995 caliber in space Marine weapons and heavy bolters
If you take max value of everything, then shit gets stupid real quick.
Like SM being 8-9ft talls, because the very few SM are.
summer mural
just take that minigun bs the titans use, doesnt that fire like 3000 rounds per second or something
near wasp
That's realistic
winged jacinth
Heavy bolter is really a thing of the gun itself probably being heavy as fuck, bolters are probably really low recoil for their scale because of the gyrojet style propulsion
summer mural
vulcan minigun
summer mural
titans being absurd overkill will never not be funny
dapper gyro
Big bore gun is cool, but the sheer amount of projectile flying at the enemy matter as well.
winged jacinth
When you're not worried about recoil or carrying ammo you can just go crazy on weapon design
dapper gyro
Like how the M134 is used in place of M2 in many case
winged jacinth
Plasma pistols do exist but from a gameplay standpoint what purpose do they serve
Plasma gun is basically a plasma pistol already
summer mural
i dunno, im sure theyl figure something out
winged jacinth
Then we've got bolt pistol too
summer mural
also plasma pistol prob wont have that much cleave
and i mean we already have overlapping weapons
like arby shock maul and old shock maul
i think one of them is just straight up redundant now
unless you wanna run it on a different class
also the shotguns
we got 2 close range combat shotguns then double barrel shotgun, arby shotgun
hotshot las is a good idea though
itl be less mobile than recon las
crisp heath
It would mean you would have to carry those backpacks the scab gunners carry tho right?
winged jacinth
Unfortunately i think anything that conflicts with a cosmetic slot is probably a no go
summer mural
Im also 99% sure that fs has already brainstormed and tried coming up with hotshot las, because its an easy include and its requested all the time, and stuff like the backpack bit is giving them trouble
crisp heath
It would also have to affect movement which would be hard to do
winged jacinth
Its wack because there's like 3 good back cosmetics anyway
winged jacinth
It would also have to affect movement which would be hard to do
Nah you'd probably just slow during ADS like with a stubber and have a sprint speed mod
summer mural
not to mention theyve already made hotshot las for the game, thats what the scab gunners use
Im pretty sure the backpack is the problem, the movement and firerate and reload and stuff probably isnt
winged jacinth
That and identity with the recon i think
winged jacinth
Hard to imagine a satisfying hellgun that doesn't obsolete the recon completely
winged jacinth
Slowing base movement is something they avoid i think
They don't want to mechanically encourage splitting
summer mural
they can make up for it if they rework the vet tree
crisp heath
We need a power sword rework and a power axe
summer mural
because arby aint that mobile on some of his weapons, he gets a bunch of movement speed buffs though
from his tree
power axe would be cool too
crisp heath
Heck yeah
winged jacinth
Im always in favor of new power weapons
Human scale power fists you brawl with...
crisp heath
There my favorite part about dt tbh
summer mural
they should firstly add the block on special activation from relic blade to all weapons with activatable specials
crisp heath
The power weapons
dapper gyro
Just give them some interesting moveset and traits.
winged jacinth
I want to punch a heretics head into vapor...
crisp heath
A power fist would be very fun on the vet
winged jacinth
Also powerfist redemption after being absolute pain in sm2
summer mural
also, if they do an admech themed class, they have tonnes of options to choose from, volkite rifles, phosphor pistols, omnissiah axe
dapper gyro
A power fist would be very fun on the vet
Weird way to spell Orgryn.
crisp heath
But I guess that would mean he can only weild a sidearm
crisp heath
True mb
dapper gyro
Has quite a few unique weapons already.
winged jacinth
Eh arbites can put a whole shield away they can holster some power fists
summer mural
ogryn can only have uniques though
arbites are missing grenade launcher, they use that in their lore
dapper gyro
But smaller selection overall. Vet has tons of talent to buff lasgun, which make them way stronger on vet than other classes.
summer mural
also psyker needs more staffs
I dont even know what staff weapon lore is
but its been a while since theyve had a staff
dapper gyro
Been a while? No new staff since release.
arctic talon
So it’s a bit funny in DT how they’re tied to abilities
humble shoal
humble shoal
I would use the shit outta that
dapper gyro
At that point, why not use the ogryn shovel?
summer mural
just give him a power axe
and give me an admech class with volkite rifles, phosphor pistols, omnissiah axes
humble shoal
At that point, why not use the ogryn shovel?
Because thats not on veteran
summer mural
why did rannick alter morrows memory
and morrow knows about it no less
wonder what he removed
winged jacinth
The power staffs in lore are melee weapons
The staff melee being terrible is such a huge shame
I should be able to kill one poxer that walks into melee
summer mural
i think they should remove the melee entirely from the staff
and give it an aoe stun
like the arby shields have
celest dome
Being able to hold it for better damage and cc but generate peril would be nice
winged jacinth
Every time i bash a poxer in the head and see a white double hit marker i get sad
summer mural
aoe stun
he just slams the base into the ground
like gandalf did at the bridge
also aoe stun is literally good for all psyker builds
winged jacinth
I was about to say "alright gandalf" lol
There's human mages in the lotr battlefront clone that do the bubble shield too
Which is extra funny because in lotr doing magic isnt real
The five wizards are angels they don't cast spells they're doing miracles
God bless tolkein lore "ok we've got these wizards, gandalf and saruman are big deals, radagast the brown is around but useless, and im not even going to name the blue wizards they've wandered off somewhere"
Why even add them dude
humble shoal
Why even add them dude
Tbf werent the blue wizards simarillion?
winged jacinth
Yeah they're only mentioned offhand
We don't know their names and no one knows what they're up to in universe
They wandered off sometime in the second age and the other wizards haven't seen them since
humble shoal
Simarillion was not a coherent narrative
winged jacinth
They're probably alive, because they literally cannot die without the valar intervening
humble shoal
Just ramblings of world building not really meant to be released
humble shoal
They're probably alive, because they literally cannot die without the valar inte...
Couldve sunk
winged jacinth
The blue wizards are mentioned in the two towers apparently
But they mostly exist in the silmarilon and lost tales since they're not around in the 3rd age
tough haven
I can’t believe Tom bombadil was never in the movies, favorite character from the books, glad he got some time in the rings of power
summer mural
so the imperial navy is completely seperate from astra militarum right
winged jacinth
The movies were so long already and i don't think tom would have made sense to casual audiences
summer mural
and all the ships are made by the admech , not the navy
also yeah tom was kind of a long break
he doesnt fit very well into the flow of the adventure per se
especially since the first movie is fairly dark till they get to rivendell
winged jacinth
so the imperial navy is completely seperate from astra militarum right
They're not completely separate, the campaign commander is at the top of both chains
humble shoal
Lord solar is in charge of both
winged jacinth
Tom barely makes sense even if you know the silmarilion lore
summer mural
so the admech makes all the ships
winged jacinth
Yeah
summer mural
and the navy just crew em
winged jacinth
But they make everything
humble shoal
Tom barely makes sense even if you know the silmarilion lore
But makes sense if you o ow the context behind the creation of middle earth
summer mural
do the navy have like..combat units, apart from voidsmen, who are basically boarding parties?
humble shoal
do the navy have like..combat units, apart from voidsmen, who are basically boar...
Yeah voidsman
winged jacinth
But makes sense if you o ow the context behind the creation of middle earth
It makes more sense but there's still a bunch of (intentionally) unanswered questions about tom
humble shoal
It makes *more* sense but there's still a bunch of (intentionally) unanswered qu...
Exactly
winged jacinth
But like his singing and the song of creation i suspect are connected
humble shoal
All I know is where theres a whip theres a way should have been in the hobbit movies
winged jacinth
Im personally a "tom is the spirit of Middle Earth itself" fan
summer mural
so if the militarum wanna get around , they have to rely on the imperial navy? just like in rl kinda
humble shoal
so if the militarum wanna get around , they have to rely on the imperial navy? j...
Pretty much
winged jacinth
Yeah
summer mural
but space marines have their own ships too right
storm jungle
Its all segregated
storm jungle
but space marines have their own ships too right
winged jacinth
but space marines have their own ships too right
They do yes
storm jungle
no they travel around on small river boats
tough haven
no they travel around on small river boats
You jest but space wolves
summer mural
so are they captained by like sm captains, im talking just average stuff, not like helbrechts flagship
storm jungle
You jest but space wolves
no
winged jacinth
With few exceptions the mechanicus makes those ships too
winged jacinth
so are they captained by like sm captains, im talking just average stuff, not li...
I think they have serf crew
storm jungle
so are they captained by like sm captains, im talking just average stuff, not li...
Read.
summer mural
oh how do you hyperlink okay
storm jungle
that was entirely accidental lol
summer mural
LOL
storm jungle
tough haven
What do space marines call marines from other chapters? Tell me so I don’t need to read marine lore, but so my writing can be accurate
storm jungle
first time seeing this
storm jungle
What do space marines call marines from other chapters? Tell me so I don’t need ...
Brother.
outer wave
Oh thats cool
summer mural
What do space marines call marines from other chapters? Tell me so I don’t need ...
depends
im assuming its mostly brother
outer wave
I mean, SM2 had cousin thrown around by that sorcerer guy, no?
Could also go with that
Battle Cousin....
summer mural
wot
storm jungle
thats a chaos marine
humble shoal
Battle Cousin....
Step marines
storm jungle
they always refer to loyalists as cousins
winged jacinth
The brother thing comes out of the warrior monk aesthetic
humble shoal
Help me step-cousim I am pinned here
outer wave
Step marines
Step Battle Cousin help me.....
winged jacinth
The cousin thing i think is basically a taunt about the heresy
summer mural
apart from sergeant and officers the sm dont seem big on rank either, they all just got different battlefield designations
humble shoal
apart from sergeant and officers the sm dont seem big on rank either, they all j...
Champion
storm jungle
apart from sergeant and officers the sm dont seem big on rank either, they all j...
UAAAAGH
humble shoal
Honorable
storm jungle
Ah, I figured it would be like cousin or some shit
thats Chaos marines
winged jacinth
There's only 1000 marines in a chapter but they have lieutenants and captains plus special roles
humble shoal
Help me cousin I drank too much lean and now my armor is hollow (rubric marine)
humble shoal
There's only 1000 marines in a chapter but they have lieutenants and captains pl...
The 1000 to a chapter thing is only codex compliant chapters
winged jacinth
God bless ozzy for denying hogan media coverage by dying at the same time but being well liked
summer mural
black templars are just like
summer mural
infinite spawning space marine fanatic vigilantes by this point
summer mural
il get their autograph first
humble shoal
il get their autograph first
Cant the paper wouldnt last
winged jacinth
I don't think most chapters are too far above 1k just because even maintaining the numbers is hard
humble shoal
And markers dont stick on ceremite
winged jacinth
It takes what 100 years for a marine to mature a second progenoid?
humble shoal
I don't think most chapters are too far above 1k just because even maintaining t...
Those that dont are probably first/second founding
winged jacinth
Yeah im sure
summer mural
Unlike the vessels of the Imperial Navy, a Space Marine ship has a relatively small crew. A Space Marine is far too valuable to waste in manning a gun or watching a surveyor screen, and so only the officers aboard a vessel are likely to be Space Marines, as well as the few Techmarines who oversee the engines and perform other mechanical duties. Almost all the ship’s systems are run and monitored by servitors; half-human cyborgs who are wired into the vessel’s weapons, engines and communications apparatus. There are also a few hundred Chapter Serfs to attend to other duties, such as routine cleaning and maintenance, serving the Space Marines during meal times and other such honoured tasks. These serfs come from the Chapter’s home planet or the enclave they protect, many of them Novitiates or applicants who have failed some part of the recruiting or training process. These serfs are fanatically loyal to their superhuman masters, and indoctrinated into many of the lesser orders of the Chapter’s Cult. Although human, they still benefit from remarkable training and access to superior weaponry than is usually found on a naval vessel, making them a fearsome prospect in a boarding action – even without the support of their genetically modified lords
winged jacinth
They get the double benefit of who's gonna tell the ultramarines they're not being codex compliant lol
Yes that is what the lexicanum says
summer mural
" a space marine is far too valuable to waste in manning a gun or watching a surveyor screen"
shit like this is why half of them are traitors
put them to work
winged jacinth
The marines give orders serfs and servitors carry them out
summer mural
boy techmarines sure are hardworking folks
humble shoal
They get the double benefit of who's gonna tell the ultramarines they're not bei...
Like the dark angels legion
winged jacinth
Between combat they don't have much to do anyway and during combat they're often doing boarding actions so they're not going to be doing minor key ship roles
humble shoal
summer mural
" fix my tank" fix my gun" fix my bike" fix my strike cruiser" " fight on the frontline" " fix my armor", I hope they get paid well
tough haven
I love how I’m my campaign the Absolvers are pissed at the party’s space marine for being heavy handed and unintentionally destroying part of an area they swore to protect, as if they don’t destroy entire cities because there’s a chaos cult present on them, hypocrisyhammer
humble shoal
Also @storm jungle do you know if the black templars would even respond to the last wall protocol?
storm jungle
Also <@166943308231344128> do you know if the black templars would even respond ...
I mean yes? Why wouldnt they lol
tough haven
" fix my tank" fix my gun" fix my bike" fix my strike cruiser" " fight on the fr...
Duty is its own reward
winged jacinth
Yeah techmarines must be so fucking busy lol
humble shoal
I mean yes? Why wouldnt they lol
Because they are so spread out doing their massive amount of crusades
storm jungle
Because they are so spread out doing their massive amount of crusades
you guys do know they still venerate Dorn heavily right
summer mural
I have so much respect for martellus 🫡
storm jungle
theres IF successors about as distant/spread out a sthey are
full obsidian
Unlike the vessels of the Imperial Navy, a Space Marine ship has a relatively sm...
then why do space marines also pilot vehicles too by this logic if they are too valuable?
storm jungle
then why do space marines also pilot vehicles too by this logic if they are too ...
thats astartes vehicles
they are talking about manning random ass consoles
or other IT level positions
summer mural
then why do space marines also pilot vehicles too by this logic if they are too ...
for the instagram selfies
humble shoal
Brother this pipe is out of spec by 4%
winged jacinth
The black templars are violent zealots but they're devoted violent zealots
tough haven
Brother this pipe is out of spec by 4%
Execute the chapter serfs
winged jacinth
Im pretty sure even a land raider only has one driver and a bunch of servitors too iirc
summer mural
at least they get extra arms and omnissiah axe
humble shoal
Execute the chapter serfs
We are blood angels, drink the serfs
summer mural
also iirc, its mostly the techmarines who man the sm gunships
winged jacinth
The ships i imagine have baseline humans even for roles like helmsman they just get top level orders from astartes command
humble shoal
Im pretty sure even a land raider only has one driver and a bunch of servitors t...
What about the space marine leman russ
arctic talon
then why do space marines also pilot vehicles too by this logic if they are too ...
because 2 guys is a lot less then an entire ship crew
winged jacinth
What about the space marine leman russ
That's just a guy
humble shoal
No its a tank
winged jacinth
he doesnt get it...
summer mural
it looks like the best navy ships are designed for more raw firepower than battle barges
summer mural
yeah
space marines probably like that boarding action
and the navy probably loves their batteries of cannons
winged jacinth
They're more dedicated to drop pods and hangar bays than mounting a nova cannon or something
winged jacinth
The shovel prow is a big hangar door which is so fucking dumb lol
winged jacinth
Why would you put your hangar on the nose of your ship
humble shoal
(Other than land raiders)
summer mural
Im assuming the admech have their own entire class of ships available to them
arctic talon
yeah they have predators
dapper gyro
🤓 Marines means Naval Infantry in the old time.
arctic talon
Im assuming the admech have their own entire class of ships available to them
They mostly use imperial models
aside from the Ark mechanicus
humble shoal
arctic talon
which is less a ship pattern
humble shoal
Was thinking of this guy
winged jacinth
If you had side hangars a battle barge could probably mount a spinal gun
summer mural
i thought ark mechanicus was like a super weapon thing
arctic talon
Battle barges aren't meant to be good at space combat
arctic talon
i thought ark mechanicus was like a super weapon thing
nah
summer mural
indeed
arctic talon
just a catch all term for an Archmagos/magos's personal ship
thats been modified/changed/is unique/is a specific type of battleship
winged jacinth
Battle barges aren't meant to be good at space combat
Yeah i guess they really care about fighting off escorts trying to stop them from launching their marines
arctic talon
yeah
marine ships in general are severely lacking in actual offensive power
they're mostly just defensive brick shithouses that go fast as hell
winged jacinth
I'd want mine to have at least one of the big torpedo tubes i think
dapper gyro
Because if they mount big offensive guns on their ship, then all of the cool shit the SMs do are gone.
winged jacinth
Still thinking about the 5 teraton naval missile
summer mural
according to lexi, when guilliman was making the codex, the marines were supposed to be like the guard, theyd use the navy for space travel and stuff, but corax was mad because of the dropsite massacre and complained that it would have been more manageable if the space marines had their own fleets, so they compromised by giving them their own fleets that wouldnt be the champs at naval combat and usurp the navy but would be good for like invasions , suppression and deep striking stuff
dapper gyro
They need a reason to fight feet on, for all of those glories.
winged jacinth
It makes logistical sense for them to be fleet independent too
Corax right for the wrong reasons lol
humble shoal
Except for the khans that go faster
Shpeed
-hears about heresy, is confused, fuck it Im just going to go fast
dapper gyro
Corax right for the wrong reasons lol
Not really. His legion fleets gave up to the traitor, leaving the troops on the surface.
winged jacinth
Space marines constantly arrive at and leave from in progress campaigns so having them tied to the navy would just be confusing
dapper gyro
The fleet was managed by mostly human crews.
winged jacinth
Yeah sure but that's not a good reason
humble shoal
Fleet just parted cuz navy sided with warmaster
winged jacinth
The navy is still all human crews
humble shoal
The navy is still all human crews
Its a chain of command thing
If high lords say to kill say... the furries
dapper gyro
Yeah sure but that's not a good reason
So why is it not a good reason?
humble shoal
The furries dont want their own fleet to turn on them
winged jacinth
So why is it not a good reason?
Instead of the battle barge crew being heretics the battleship next door is, boom
It doesn't really solve the problem
It solves other problems though
dapper gyro
Well, the CoC and logistic of the thing were all mixed up, no one know who are friend or foe.
humble shoal
Instead of the battle barge crew being heretics the battleship next door is, boo...
The thing is battle barge can escape
winged jacinth
Not from a surprise attack from a ship they assumed was an ally lol
dapper gyro
direct shot? no
With plot, yes.
arctic talon
Escorts and destroyers usually get cooked tho
arctic talon
lol
winged jacinth
If the allied battleship nearby suddenly unloads its main guns and torpedos into you you have problems
arctic talon
yeah
humble shoal
But there is a plot chance you can escape
If your battle barge turns traitor with you on it
There is no chance
winged jacinth
But the marines being independent of the navy is hugely useful in actually carrying out marine combat doctrine
winged jacinth
There is no chance
Unless plot
humble shoal
Unless plot <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Not even plot can save you there
Unless the emperor comes out and shoves you into the webway or some dumb shit
winged jacinth
You underestimate its power...
humble shoal
You underestimate its power...
Cutz to trazyn just... taking the ship
winged jacinth
When me and the crew turn traitor and the door servitors turn to look at us and start singing hymns
humble shoal
That would be a great intro to a nexron book
Space marines all over the cover
First chapter shit goes wrong, and everyone is goingnto die
Cuts to trazyn looking at the ship in collection
summer mural
what class of ship is the mourningstar again
winged jacinth
"Trazyn just takes stuff" is i think my favorite randomish lore lol
humble shoal
"Trazyn just takes stuff" is i think my favorite randomish lore lol
Primarch of the blood ravens
winged jacinth
Hes got Creed in a diorama
humble shoal
Hes got Creed in a diorama
And fulgrim
tough haven
"Trazyn just takes stuff" is i think my favorite randomish lore lol
He’s a collector with infinite time to kill
winged jacinth
That's begging for a crazy novel where creed breaks out using exhibits from the vault
storm jungle
tough haven
Trazyn the Infinite
Yes
humble shoal
Gotta collect to keep the virus from taking over
humble shoal
arctic talon
creed is hopefully in the type of Stasis
where he isn't thinking
because Trazyn sometimes puts people in the type that lets you think
winged jacinth
Knowing trazyn, no lol
storm jungle
Some are
arctic talon
No
some are thinking
he literally setup a diorama with a deathwatch killteam and Ork warboss
storm jungle
Yeah but some are, shut up
arctic talon
where they're fully conscious
summer mural
mourningstar is smaller than I expected
arctic talon
forever
winged jacinth
Creed is actually a real prize he might be in full stasis
humble shoal
Ready for the new rogue trader companion
storm jungle
the best part is like
humble shoal
Krork
arctic talon
Yeah
arctic talon
its so fucking funny
tough haven
I like how trazyn is sometimes really merciful when he wants to be
winged jacinth
I feel like creed going crazy would kinda ruin it for trazyn
tough haven
Like the magos he keeps around with nearly full autonomy besides the mindshackle to keep him from doing anything rash
winged jacinth
What's the point of having him if hes a gibbering braindead guy
humble shoal
Like the magos he keeps around with nearly full autonomy besides the mindshackle...
He killed him
arctic talon
What's the point of having him if hes a gibbering braindead guy
he looks cool
summer mural
arent we getting rt dlc set in a trazyn vault
humble shoal
arent we getting rt dlc set in a trazyn vault
Yee
arctic talon
We're getting a DLC with trazyn
tough haven
He killed him
Yeah but he was kept around
tough haven
Yeah but he was kept around
And allowed to study somewhat
humble shoal
Pasqals only friend, solomorne
winged jacinth
mourningstar is smaller than I expected
Its still like 2km long but yeah its rather small as voidships go
Your rt flagship is the same class but modified
storm jungle
mourningstar is smaller than I expected
arctic talon
its not the size that matters
humble shoal
its not the size that matters
It is
storm jungle
Its not
arctic talon
Jokes aside I kinda wish the Von Volancius flagship was a cruiser lol
but meh
Its cool anyways
storm jungle
we've got cannon examples of big ass ships being taken down by smaller ones
humble shoal
Jokes aside I kinda wish the Von Volancius flagship was a cruiser lol
You can do it
We have the technology
storm jungle
me when lance to warp-generator
humble shoal
arctic talon
>me when lance to warp-generator
kid named torpedos
winged jacinth
It kinda makes sense that the von valancius flagship is the same ancient ship they started off with considering
Brahms seems like the same kind of situation
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
Yeah its a hereditary ship
winged jacinth
Oops can't move the archaeotech
humble shoal
Yeah its a hereditary ship
2 hereditary ships
storm jungle
2 hereditary ships
Yes.
humble shoal
Depending on deluxe edition or bot
arctic talon
Can’t move gramps
summer mural
Im just looking at the list , apparentiy it goes battleship> grand cruiser> battle cruiser> cruiser> light cruiser> frigate>destroyer, in terms of size
humble shoal
storm jungle
Im just looking at the list , apparentiy it goes battleship> grand cruiser> batt...
pretty much
winged jacinth
2 hereditary ships
Almost all ships are hereditary
humble shoal
Almost all ships are hereditary
I know but we got 2
The digital deluxe one and the og
winged jacinth
I want to beat up whoever decided frigates in 40k were bigger than destroyers
summer mural
I wonder if there are rogue traders with battleships
queen laurel
>me when lance to warp-generator
FUCK IT PUT THRUSTERS IN THIS GIANT HOLLOWED OUT SHARPENED PIECE OF SCRAP AND RAM THE MOTHER ZOGGERS
near wasp
There def are
winged jacinth
Yeah the huge dynasties can have massive fleets
storm jungle
I wonder if there are rogue traders with battleships
Yes
summer mural
i havent played rt yet, i just own it lol
storm jungle
the only ships rogue traders cannot have are like Gloriana (which are primarch-tier ships) or Ark Mechanicus stuff otherwise anything is free game.
winged jacinth
They usually have to personally protect huge regions of space for their protectorate so they often end up with a whole navy
arctic talon
GW could write a rogue trader with a Gloriana lol
storm jungle
Yeah but alas we got no canon example of it yet
summer mural
arent gloriana like sm exclusive
arctic talon
We’ve got 2 navy Gloriana stills
arctic talon
arent gloriana like sm exclusive
No
rocky gale
They usually have to personally protect huge regions of space for their protecto...
So I can have the Phalanx?
queen laurel
the only ships rogue traders cannot have are like Gloriana (which are primarch-t...
To be fair can the current imperium even make that?
arctic talon
Navy also used them as a showpiece
queen laurel
That is like lost tech no
arctic talon
To be fair can the current imperium even make that?
Yes
winged jacinth
A rogue trader can get basically anything that's not unique or semi-unique
arctic talon
Glorianas actually kinda suck in lore lol
summer mural
guilliman has a gloriana doesnt he
queen laurel
Oh shit for real
arctic talon
Yeah
summer mural
the laurens of copium
arctic talon
Yeah they’re out of date as well
storm jungle
To be fair can the current imperium even make that?
Yes
winged jacinth
Idk if a rt could get a battle barge but basically anything ever mass produced is fair game
storm jungle
Idk if a rt could get a battle barge but basically anything ever mass produced i...
no they cannot
space marine ships are solely for astartes
arctic talon
Tbh battle barges are kinda shit for how much of a pain they are to maintain
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
So not sure why you’d want one
storm jungle
also like,you can literally have ships that can blow up said battle-barges
winged jacinth
Yeah just conceptually
storm jungle
so it doesnt even matter
storm jungle
Yeah just conceptually
Its just an imperial ship with a big ass hangar-mouth at the front of it
you can get better versions of it
winged jacinth
I bet a battle barge makes a hell of an armed merchant vessel
arctic talon
It’s durable as fuck and fast(for an imperial ship)
Is the one upside
You get less guns
winged jacinth
But yeah they're barges for a reason (sort of, since they're fast)
winged jacinth
Lots of cargo room that used to be gunships and drop pods
winged jacinth
But yeah besides ships that are entirely unique (like the Phalanx for an extreme example) or classes in which each ship is basically unique (typically also deeply faction locked) like ark mechanicus rogue traders can get them
An RT could probably get a lesser mechanicus ship but it would be through contract and the mechanicus would still own and crew it
queen laurel
also like,you can literally have ships that can blow up said battle-barges
The mighty battle barge fist of orion prime on a thousand years of service versus, gork's finger which is built literally yesterday out of garbage floating in space
humble shoal
The winterscales family ship is a grand cruiser
Isnt chordas a beeg ship too
Had both of them help me in fighting the onquisition
winged jacinth
The mighty battle barge fist of orion prime on a thousand years of service versu...
Space hulks are so funny they have to be a warp phenomenon
humble shoal
Space hulks are so funny they have to be a warp phenomenon
Teleporting attack moons
winged jacinth
The ships magically fuse together and somehow their systems sometimes integrate??
summer mural
The ships magically fuse together and somehow their systems sometimes integrate?...
warp jamba juice yes
winged jacinth
And then they only show up in the worst places
summer mural
theres also a lictor in the basement usually
humble shoal
theres also a lictor in the basement usually
Papa jeans
I want a space hulk combined with a blackstone foretress
summer mural
Papa jeans
more like alien 40k
winged jacinth
Armageddon having a space hulk show up with angron on it then having a second space hulk with ghazkull on it 💀
humble shoal
Armageddon having a space hulk show up with angron on it then having a *second* ...
Peak Armageddon
summer mural
armageddon is uh..a special place
storm jungle
its named Armageddon so
arctic talon
Isnt chordas a beeg ship too
Yeah her family has a battleship
storm jungle
humble shoal
Yeah her family has a battleship
Thats why deronomominus was so happy
arctic talon
Nomos is Nomos
queen laurel
Yeah her family has a battleship
Wait out of the three rts in the sector do you have the smallest ship
opaque coyote
The ships magically fuse together and somehow their systems sometimes integrate?...
Oh yeah also Tyranids are casually attracted to them
humble shoal
Nomos is Nomos
Nomos is the emperors judgement
storm jungle
Oh yeah also Tyranids are casually attracted to them
They arent attracted to them
they just send genestealers onto them
winged jacinth
They renamed the planet to armageddon before it underwent armageddon
storm jungle
because the hivemind knpows people explore spacehulks
opaque coyote
they just send genestealers onto them
Why.
winged jacinth
They gotta stop letting prophets name stuff
storm jungle
and thus serves as a vector for infection
storm jungle
**Why.**
Read above dingus
lol
How do you think some planets end up with genestealer cults lol
humble shoal
Jeanstealers should get the pimpmobile back
winged jacinth
Space hulks also allow tyranids to do warp travel which they usually cant
arctic talon
Wait out of the three rts in the sector do you have the smallest ship
By a massive margin yes
summer mural
so they can infect wherever they float to
storm jungle
so they can infect wherever they float to
^^^^^^^^
summer mural
~~ like atoma~~
humble shoal
Not that it matters because the Von volancius flagship is on meth
Full archeotech armaments
winged jacinth
Hive fleet slow space hulk maybe arrives before it even left
arctic talon
Nomos is Nomos
opaque coyote
^^^^^^^^
Okay yeah that makes more sense to me compared to
Idk
Infecting any random person that decided to go to the funny metal meteor
winged jacinth
Space hulks are the #1 way to do warp travel without your own warp drive manufacturing ability
storm jungle
Okay yeah that makes more sense to me compared to
Idk
Infecting any random per...
Because you do not think
opaque coyote
Because you do not think
no u
winged jacinth
Which tyranids and less developed orks take advantage of
storm jungle
no u
no
where do those random persons that get infected by genestealers go to?
thats right, worlds filled with trillions of people
winged jacinth
I think a big enough waagh starts building warp capable ships?
queen laurel
*where* do those random persons that get infected by genestealers go to?
Bottom of the hive world?
storm jungle
Yeah that too
storm jungle
Bottom of the hive world?
yes
winged jacinth
But before that orks usually space hulk around to find random planets to attack
arctic talon
I think a big enough waagh starts building warp capable ships?
Yeah
summer mural
oh theres only ever been 3 abyss class battleships?
median star
@storm jungle im stll not going to read the lex
summer mural
so aside from those and the phalanx, the gloriana class ships are the biggest?
queen laurel
But before that orks usually space hulk around to find random planets to attack
Yeah if they get enough momentum they can start building their ships but them just warping around on the hulk is not a problem because they're subconsciousness can guide the more they need to go
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> im stll not going to read the lex
You will as I shove pages on your face
🫡
queen laurel
They can't been reality just allow the warp to put them closer to where they want to go
orks psychic b*******
winged jacinth
Yeah if they get enough momentum they can start building their ships but them ju...
They also hardly care where they end up as long as theres krumpin' to be done
rocky gale
<@166943308231344128> im stll not going to read the lex
It's the Ferric Father Feirros
queen laurel
They also hardly care where they end up as long as theres krumpin' to be done
Yep which is plenty of places
summer mural
space marines getting everything smh, their gloriana ships are bigger than the navys battleships?
queen laurel
He's cool but like he's gimmick is like very f****** basic
storm jungle
space marines getting everything smh, their gloriana ships are bigger than the n...
gloriana ships are basically extinct
queen laurel
He an ork that likes fighting demons good
storm jungle
almost barely any Chapter has them
humble shoal
He's cool but like he's gimmick is like very f****** basic
He kills demons thats it
humble shoal
not even successors
Blood ravens got 6
winged jacinth
I would guess spacd hulks mostly jump into uninhabited systems but they don't usually stick around that long so you'll hit an inhabited world eventually
I think the angron hulk was summoned too
humble shoal
next question
Any specific founding chapters with em
rocky gale
almost barely any Chapter has them
My chapters got like 12
humble shoal
IE dark angels
storm jungle
Any specific founding chapters with em
Ultramarines for one
storm jungle
I would guess spacd hulks mostly jump into uninhabited systems but they don't us...
Spacehulks jump into basically anywhere plot relevant. Their purpose is to serve as essentially travelling dungeons for loot for whatever narrative a book or your friends to go explore etc.
median star
dont dark angels still have one or nah
summer mural
invincible reason is around yes
arctic talon
Dark angels, UM have it still
rocky gale
I would guess spacd hulks mostly jump into uninhabited systems but they don't us...
I think if they're not summoned they usually appear in systems briefly and parts essentially fall off
opaque coyote
thats right, worlds filled with trillions of people
I understand that.
It's just that I think that using a space hulk as a vector for infection kinda doesn't make sense logistically.
But I also know that it's 40k. And you need things to fight.
summer mural
invincible reason is around yes
and its crewed by like a million folk apparently , thats the dark angel one
near wasp
I think macragges honor is the only one left at least according to the silent king
storm jungle
I understand that.
It's just that I think that using a space hulk as a vector f...
I mean it does
summer mural
abaddon has a gloriana class ship
summer mural
I think macragges honor is the only one left at least according to the silent ki...
even calgar has a gloriana class, the laurels of victory iirc
storm jungle
a spacehulk appearing also always gets an imperial response
arctic talon
even calgar has a gloriana class, the laurels of victory iirc
It’s not
winged jacinth
Spacehulks jump into basically anywhere plot relevant. Their purpose is to serve...
Yeah i mean in practice yes but they probably don't spend all the time between interesting places hanging out in the warp they probably drop into empty shitholes periodically
humble shoal
a spacehulk appearing also *always* gets an imperial response
What if it is in tau space
storm jungle
Yeah i mean in practice yes but they probably don't spend all the time between i...
Well yeah again its plot relevant
storm jungle
What if it is in tau space
Same thing
queen laurel
What if it is in tau space
Do you really think the imperium cares about consent?
arctic talon
Also tau board space hulks as well
near wasp
Space hulks have to be dealt with
median star
What if it is in tau space
the tau go wow that looks cool try and explore it and get turned into ground beef
humble shoal
Orks v tau v imperium v jeans
opaque coyote
genestealers can hibernate indefinitely
Right I forgot about that.
I should really get more than 5 hours of sleep.
winged jacinth
I understand that.
It's just that I think that using a space hulk as a vector f...
Tyranids cannot natively travel by warp so space hulks are astronomically faster even if they are random
queen laurel
The earth caste like that shit
I trust them because they somehow reverse engineered faulty ork technology
winged jacinth
A brood taking over a ship entirely would be interesting
humble shoal
A brood taking over a ship entirely would be interesting
Tyranid blackstone
near wasp
Right I forgot about that.
I should really get more than 5 hours of sleep.
Your good I literally feel like I'm going insane.
opaque coyote
Do you really think the imperium cares about consent?
"I consent."
"I consent."
"I don't."
Isn't there some genocidal empire that you forgot to ask?
near wasp
Did you get your C-01
winged jacinth
You wouldn't download a land raider
humble shoal
You wouldn't download a land raider
Literally did
near wasp
I def would
winged jacinth
Yeah that is actually what happened lol
rocky gale
I don't think Genestealers are necessarily infecting Space Hulks deliberately, my assumption was that because Space Hulks are made up of ships lost to the warp that then get all smooshed together and that any ship of a large enough size is going to have a genestealer infection of some scale, that they all just sort of end up there after the ship they're on gets stuck in it.
near wasp
I'm not gonna buy a land raider just to cut it up for a battle map
storm jungle
I don't think Genestealers are necessarily infecting Space Hulks deliberately, m...
The genestealer codex says some hivefleets do it deliberately
the hivemind is smart enough to know people investigate space hulks
opaque coyote
Tyranids cannot natively travel by warp so space hulks are astronomically faster...
Thank u
rocky gale
Huh
storm jungle
but sometimes indeed it can be accidental yeah
winged jacinth
Oh i meant in universe, land literally downloaded the land raider lol
storm jungle
All it takes is 1 genestealer to make it onto som evoidcraft that will eventually park on an imperial world
how it gets there is entirely up to the writer which is the neat part
spacehulks are just one among like millions of other ways you can think up
winged jacinth
It costs the nids basically nothing to seed a hulk with genestealers too
storm jungle
^
humble shoal
spacehulks are just one among like millions of other ways you can think up
I blame my predecessor theodora
storm jungle
Literally nothing yeah
storm jungle
I blame my predecessor theodora
raven stone
And don’t forget GW outright canonised you can export Genestealer taint without actual Genestealers too
winged jacinth
Plus! If you put genestealers on a space hulk that's the movie Aliens
storm jungle
And don’t forget GW outright canonised you can export Genestealer taint without ...
^
raven stone
looks at Cult of Helix
humble shoal
<:kick:573045726100062218>
She had a cool rock though
storm jungle
She had a cool rock though
no
humble shoal
no
For some reason this annoying dude who kept talking about how much he was taught took it from me
summer mural
retribution class battleships are THICK
raven stone
So yes, if you really want.
You can have Genestealer cults taint grain
And watch a certain Astra Militarum Commander named Arthras fall to Chaos because he purged an entire world where the grain had been sent to.
summer mural
arthas?
storm jungle
oh my sweet young summer child
raven stone
…nobody gets Warcraft jokes anymore…
raven stone
Sadge
rocky gale
summer mural
i do believe I got it
rocky gale
It's Arthing time
storm jungle
theres people here born after the Lich King stuff lol
summer mural
unfortunately
winged jacinth
Space hulks, besides being the movie Aliens, are convenient for nids because they can just show up in the same system as a hive fleet and don't have a crew to shit their pants and flee
humble shoal
…nobody gets Warcraft jokes anymore…
Arthus is a stand up lad, sad he lost his buddy the dwarf
Hope nothing bad happens to him
winged jacinth
Actually i can't remember if you can warp translate under the Shadow
storm jungle
Actually i can't remember if you can warp translate under the Shadow
You can with the right narrative excuse
winged jacinth
I think you can but its touch and go on navigation
storm jungle
its been done before which kinda breaks the Shadow lore but like whatever lol
near wasp
morty gets a gloriana class battleship
He also has a dead space whale
summer mural
He also has a dead space whale
he can make that his vessel and give the big ship to someone more deserving
winged jacinth
I always imagined the shadow as being like a saturation of the warp with psychic noise
near wasp
Like who his shitty son typhon
summer mural
typhon >mortarion
winged jacinth
Which shouldn't stop you from poking a hole through but would make navigation tough
summer mural
typhon has a healthy gut, mortarion looks sick and depressed
raven stone
typhon >mortarion
My only gripe with Typhon was that the BL novels just went…”…oh yea he is best buds with Erebus that’s why he’s evil.”
And left it at that.
near wasp
Depression is a disease
winged jacinth
Mortarion is cursed to be the only sad nurgle follower
near wasp
He's blessed by nurgle
summer mural
mortarion is a big time loser
near wasp
Kugath is also sad
storm jungle
Kugath loves his job yeah lol
raven stone
mortarion is a big time loser
The worst thing of all is that he is too proud to even admit he is a loser…which landed him where he is…
summer mural
at least he has a cool scythe
winged jacinth
Mortarion the eternal jobber
near wasp
He loves his job but generally he's sadder than other unclean ones
opaque coyote
Mortarion the eternal jobber
Dude easily wins the award of daddy issues
summer mural
lemme check what kinda ship typhus has, doesnt he have a thing where he sails around spreading all kinds of plagues
winged jacinth
He loves his job but generally he's sadder than other unclean ones
High bar those guys seem to have a great time
raven stone
lemme check what kinda ship typhus has, doesnt he have a thing where he sails ar...
Terminus Est
opaque coyote
At least he gets to torture his first dad's soul
summer mural
is that a battle barge or a gloriana class battle barge
raven stone
I think it’s a Despoiler Class on Steroids
summer mural
oh despoiler
winged jacinth
Terminus est is so ugly even considering its nurglish lol
opaque coyote
Terminus est is so ugly even considering its nurglish lol
Perfect
raven stone
Yea, the main Despoilers CSM fleets use is supposed to be based on Terminus Est
summer mural
mortarion also has the distinct honor of getting banished by draigo again in a videogame lol
winged jacinth
Delightfully repulsive
You wish lol it just looks bad
raven stone
I mean for all his troubles…wait no yea he had a cameo only to get humiliated.
opaque coyote
You wish lol it just looks bad
Jokes aside, it might unironically look better post corruption LMAO
winged jacinth
Gw: FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH DRAIGO NOW PRIMARCHS ARE MY BEST FRIEND
opaque coyote
raven stone
i loved the xcom style stuff
Trying to do actual XCOM 2 WoTC myself with a roster filled with characters.
Realised I suck at that…
opaque coyote
summer mural
Trying to do actual XCOM 2 WoTC myself with a roster filled with characters.
Rea...
its doable
opaque coyote
So many fucking spikes
summer mural
its not that hard once you do a couple of runs
opaque coyote
It would make the dark king blush...
raven stone
its not that hard once you do a couple of runs
Yea just gotta level up my play
summer mural
thats the terminus est? that is a goated looking ship
opaque coyote
thats the terminus est? that is a goated looking ship
Yeah post corruption.
Also the weird fur stuff is mold
summer mural
I bet mortarions gloriana ship still looks like its made out of metal
summer mural
Yea just gotta level up my play
yep, very doable, also it preps you nicely to enjoy the many xcom style games that it inspired, including the marvel one, the grey knights one, and the upcoming sw one
and the mechanicus one too
why does kharn have grey fur growing out of his earrings
humble shoal
why does kharn have grey fur growing out of his earrings
Thats his moms hair
humble shoal
I actually have no clue
rocky gale
It's his hair, he's Hastune Miku
humble shoal
It's his hair, he's Hastune Miku
Hatsune sqeaku
summer mural
hatsune deez
rocky gale
As you can see by this evidence
humble shoal
Also kharn is a ratogre
summer mural
he looked so happy during the horus heresy
storm jungle
why does kharn have grey fur growing out of his earrings
callback to more eastern warrior cultures ala mongols
lots of tassles with fur at the end of em
summer mural
well
summer mural
the white scars called
near wasp
How dare you
summer mural
but jaghatai ' common sense' khan
humble shoal
I would what do you think the khans been doing in commorogh
summer mural
I would what do you think the khans been doing in commorogh
gambling
racing
entertaining deldar
showing them how to laugh with more finesse while killing
preaching topknots
etc
watching the sunsets
hes probably married to a dark eldar woman who takes in great pleasure in murdering him everynight and is overjoyed to find him healed by morning
rocky gale
The classic
summer mural
like i said, jaghatai ' commonsense' khan
rocky gale
Every other Primarch: Eternal Suffering and agony
The Khan: Popping wheelies on his jetbike for 12 consecutive hours in a bar car park, going in to get drunk and then going back outside to do wheelies again for another 12 hours.
summer mural
im surprised luetin hasnt done a video on armageddon
but he has like 5 videos on the worst jobs in the imperium
winged jacinth
Im so excited to have free time again ill finally beat RT
winged jacinth
I like to imagine he’s in the library
Hes in the library
Racing
summer mural
i just have it bought
still need to play rt
at this point i think il just end up playing after its development has ceased
winged jacinth
Harlequin librarians trying desperately to keep khan from drifting the book carts
summer mural
i still have to finish kingmaker and start wrath of the righteous too
and I have to finish mechanicus 1
the only 40k game I finished recently was chaosgate, because I enjoyed the gameplay a lot
winged jacinth
Wotr is much better i think but use toybox to ignore the big map wargame section it sucks
Than kingmaker that is
summer mural
with these massive sword and sandal rpgs I just get huge build paralysis
especially since you get so many companions
winged jacinth
Dude you have no idea
summer mural
with their own builds
winged jacinth
One of my starting companions in wotr ended up with levels in 6 classes by endgame
She was invincible
summer mural
it feels easier with like scifi , but if you give me choices like, mage, paladin and shit I get so confused lol
winged jacinth
Saves over 30 AC of 86 did almost 900 damage a turn (because owlcat is stupid lol, they patched it out)
summer mural
and that yeah, on top of that theres the complicated kingmaker system
which I have no idea how it works
rather, pathfinder system*
rocky gale
I like to imagine he’s in the library
Russ shows up looking entry to gain knowledge and the Harlequins are just like "Sorry no Primarchs allowed" and Russ just points at the Khan through the window doing burnouts in the library and is told "No Primarchs, we're only allowed to have one"
winged jacinth
Seelah was paladin 1 bloodrager 12 monk 1 oracle 1 hellknight 2 alchemist 3 i think?
She added her cha mod to AC 3 or 4 times
summer mural
i havent even gone after that midget who betrays you in the beginning
i think im supposed to chase him down next
the mage gnome
rocky gale
You have a couple options about when you can chase him down I think
winged jacinth
Im an evil build goblin so pf1e is perfect for me
summer mural
on the other hand, I LOVED DOS 2
winged jacinth
Rogue trader presented some difficulties in terms of what i could pick when
arctic talon
Russ shows up looking entry to gain knowledge and the Harlequins are just like "...
Lmao
summer mural
is the black library in the webway
summer mural
something about it makes me prefer it being just a floating station type place in space somewhere
winged jacinth
Its a craftworld iirc its just in the webway
rocky gale
It's a floating type space lost in the Webway, behind an infinite labyrinth
summer mural
and its allegedly got the love letters malcador and the emperor wrote to each other
the words that can make even the chaos gods blush
rocky gale
It's rumoured to have the Emperors name, not his diary
rocky gale
Don't let Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau catch you saying that
rocky gale
In lore the regular people think the second war is the first
summer mural
isnt it like official imperium policy that the first war didnt even happen
ah yes that
so hes from the second war
or do they actually mean the first first
rocky gale
Second
summer mural
phew
although I guess being from the actual first would have explained why rannick messed with his memories
and morrow even knew about it
arctic talon
isnt it like official imperium policy that the first war didnt even happen
Yeah official policy is it never happened
Unless you’re part of the inqusition
Or grey knights
summer mural
or the space wolves
arctic talon
Then it did happen but it obviously never happened
rocky gale
Second War of Armageddon was like 200 years ago in lore and that's what they talk about with Morrow, First war is like 700 years ago
summer mural
i assumed he was from the actual first war because his mortis flashbacks talk about fighting a khornate thing iirc
a marine I think
rocky gale
They are present on Armageddon now in the still ongoing 3rd war of Armageddon
summer mural
They are present on Armageddon now in the still ongoing 3rd war of Armageddon
well
is it even called the third war anymore
afaik the planets landscape changed, multiple chaos cults invaded, tzeentch and khorne forces fought each on the planet while the imperium and orks also fought
summer mural
the planet got covered in warp fuckery, angron fuckin came back
arctic talon
Guard generals debate between 2nd and third
Those who know the truth debate 3rd and 4th
summer mural
meanwhile , the orks and imperium were still fighting
do they even need the planet anymore
theres an entirely artificial debris field around it now
with wreckage ofc
summer mural
what city do they even have left
arctic talon
Is still being pumped from the planet
summer mural
helsreach?
arctic talon
I forgor
There’s a few prolly
One of the hellscape modifiers in crusade Armageddon
Is an oil field gets set on fire by the imperium
To stall Orks
And then some daemons do a fucked up ritual and now the oilfield is even worse and chaosy and bloody and oily
summer mural
oh yeah theres also just random relic seekers showing up in the middle of the jungle, working with black templars, finding pieces of angrons axe then fighting to the death with black templars and getting the heck out of the planet
meanwhile the catachans and steel legionnares are beating up kommandos next door
arctic talon
It’s peak
summer mural
armageddon is doomed
arctic talon
Yeah
summer mural
its quite nice
summer mural
because by the end its just like " yeah this war didnt end, every ork showed up, daemons showed up, cults showed up, they all fought each other "
while the imperium is just there fighting everyone
this isnt even counting the first war and the second war
storm jungle
spoilers but its a planet called Armageddon
its pretty normal
so either Arma or Geddout
summer mural
thats quite well animated
storm jungle
thats quite well animated
tough haven
I LOVE ARMAGEDDON!!!
tough haven
spoilers but its a planet called Armageddon
Arma'geddem
arctic talon
ultrasmurfs dont participate in armaggedon do they
Not in the current one
They were at the 2nd war
arctic talon
UM are only in 1 recent warzone/crusade book
Which is Leviathan
All the UM got killed offscreen in pariah nexus between 9e and 10e lol
opaque coyote
Heretic
tough haven
crystal forum
Bet it's in Turkey
you can tell by the cat
crystal forum
that's an excessive amount of limbs even for a night lord 😭
crystal forum
<@166943308231344128> most average cat simp
i bet dilara is allergic to cats
she's born with the evil gene
paper haven
My favorite powerpoint presentation
storm jungle
My favorite powerpoint presentation
shut up
paper haven
You're right, I'm being too hard on GW.
They are just a small, indie developer after all
celest dome
Well technically they're Indi developers (so is FS )
misty vector
Best part is when yarrick moves
nocturne crest
Through using one of the backpack batteries lasguns use, could you hook it up to two laspistols and just start blasting with two guns?
storm jungle
Yes
crystal forum
Through using one of the backpack batteries lasguns use, could you hook it up to...
that's just a hotshot laspistol
nocturne crest
I didn't know they existed
crystal forum
nuh uh
near wasp
You guys think it would be too over the top for my inquisitor to have a power glaive fashioned like the custodes weapon
I just like the weapon tbh
idle phoenix
Wait so is one of the two missing primarchs named Malibron?
crystal forum
You guys think it would be too over the top for my inquisitor to have a power gl...
no
crystal forum
Wait so is one of the two missing primarchs named Malibron?
we know literally nothing concrete about the missing primarchs, nothing even close to a name
idle phoenix
It was mentioned in one of the books, and Horus confirms it before he's strangled
At least just a name
near wasp
He means when malcador strangles horus
But I'm pretty sure Horus didn't even get to say the name before being strangled
crystal forum
there is no chance that we get a name for the lost primarchs
valid needle
Also <@166943308231344128> do you know if the black templars would even respond ...
They did last time it was initiated.
idle phoenix
nvm im dumb its noncannon compliant
valid needle
BT love Dorn and venerate him as a demigod and their saviour. If the last wall protocol is initiated again, they will most certainly abandon all their campaigns to respond, especially if it’s their father who initiates it.