And yeah me too
#40k-lore-chat
hallow saddle
crisp heath
So uh I started watching andor properly and it's actually REALLY good
crisp heath
I was a fool
plush mason
rose thorn
ive bene playing stellaris and its na utter blast lmao
storm jungle
I was a fool
plush mason
so Cyrus was made a captain
storm jungle
Cyrus was also made ash
summer mural
I've played dow 2 but not 3
What exactly is bad about 3 in terms of single player gameplay
If anything
shadow plover
very bland mechanics
summer mural
Because I'm considering trying it just for the campaigns
storm jungle
A ton of factors
summer mural
Aww
shadow plover
I guess it's worth the couple euros it's on sale but it's not very good
summer mural
Is it because Gabriel Angelos has the training of an Olympic gymnast
queen laurel
What exactly is bad about 3 in terms of single player gameplay
Take the gameplay of dawn of War 2 but make it considerably more needlessly bad and garbage
storm jungle
No lol
summer mural
I've seen him do some backflips with a thunder hammer
queen laurel
Like it's an abominable mix of dawn of war 2 less building gameplay and dawn of war 1 building gameplay
where the characters are literally your trump card
shadow plover
the visuals are pretty cool here and there if you just care for the eye candy
shadow plover
cover system is ass
shadow plover
story is stupid
storm jungle
it explains good in detail whats just "wrong" about the game
outer wave
Wasn't expecting Dilara to link to 1d6chan of all things
storm jungle
I mean it explains it well
lol
this isnt a lore thing, its a public perception thing thats also universally agreed by the fandom
queen laurel
I mean it explains it well
truth is truth even if it's from hell
nocturne crest
I got an idea: Monster Hunter, but you're playing as Orks
languid meadow
The stats for the halo weapons were apparently found and the shotgun does around the same as the break action?
Which is around 500 DMG....
This can't be right
arctic talon
It is light pen
lol
my prediction was right
its literally just the break action but not shit
covert kiln
I love love love them irl. A good shottie is like … garlic bread.
Hate them in games.
Which is why DT has one of the few shotguns I like in games.
The accurate shotgun is great. One of my fav weapons.
storm jungle
Was gonna say Darktide i think is the only game that actually acknowledges shotguns can hit people way far in the distance lol
green loom
Battlefield sniper shotgun
storm jungle
(and not have their pellets disappear 5cm)
covert kiln
I don’t get why people use the slug so much tbh.
storm jungle
its fun
arctic talon
Was gonna say Darktide i think is the only game that actually acknowledges shotg...
destiny until they killed the funny shot gun roll
languid meadow
Was gonna say Darktide i think is the only game that actually acknowledges shotg...
I'm a shotgun user in tarkov and let me tell you something
storm jungle
~~destiny until they killed the funny shot gun roll~~
destiny
trash
storm jungle
I'm a shotgun user in tarkov and let me tell you something
tarkov
trash
storm jungle
winged jacinth
I don’t get why people use the slug so much tbh.
On the abites shotgun it applies brittleness
covert kiln
I like beaning crushers in the chest with the slugs. Funny every time.
arctic talon
On the abites shotgun it applies brittleness
yeah this
it lets you do some dumb stuff lol
covert kiln
I think I will try an Ogryn in the foot next. Wonder if it trips them.
covert kiln
Flash Gitz. Lots and lots of Flash Gitz.
Although in lore a sleek kult orc got one.
Speed*
queen laurel
relic isnt making dow4
yeah it's the iron harvest devs
summer mural
havent played iron harvest
green loom
Mixed things generally not bad
summer mural
it had middish reviews? didnt seem worth the money
green loom
I've heard everything from it being someone's favourite game to "unplayable"
summer mural
ive heard the world is interesting
green loom
It's decidedly not unplayable but from reading it looks great with issues
summer mural
but the gameplay not so much
queen laurel
it had middish reviews? didnt seem worth the money
it's just good
queen laurel
nothing my breaking
green loom
Reviews are saying "ver good"
So far
Paid reviews mind so grain of alt
*salt
But it definitely looks good and playable even in it's pre alpha state
languid meadow
Already see the iron harvest esq mached animations in the footage
The killa kan and dreadnaught wrestling is awesome
shadow plover
Trying to play Iron Harvest's map campaing mode and it doesn't even let me end my turn 😭
queen laurel
The killa kan and dreadnaught wrestling is awesome
thats a deff dread
i'm pretty sure
languid meadow
I can barely tell I'm not greenie
But
I'm glad the walkers feel weighty
I saw sentinels but for a couple of seconds
queen laurel
I'm glad the walkers feel weighty
yeah the gorkanaut goes hard
green loom
There's a partial imperial guard roster
languid meadow
Also the imperial guard looked weird
green loom
Assume they'll be 1st DLC
green loom
Also the imperial guard looked weird
The guardsmen have no firing animation, this would be why it's labeled "Pre alpha" in the top 
languid meadow
At least their projectiles but I put that to "game not done"
queen laurel
Assume they'll be 1st DLC
you think they're gonna winter assault it?
green loom
Prolly
queen laurel
They already have some units in the game
green loom
I imagine they'll try retreading ground the old DoWs did
4 to start
Add more with expansions
languid meadow
Not the animations I meant they're firing autoguns I think which will always be a bit jarring if still in the lore
So used to lasgun bolts
arctic talon
Guardsmen have no firing animation + are using ork muzzle flash + bullets
languid meadow
Peak but yeah in the "game not done" bin
I do hope in later versions/previews builder units are given to at least most of the factions
queen laurel
I do hope in later versions/previews builder units are given to at least most of...
for a pre-alpha footage what we saw were quite nice
nocturne crest
So odd question, but could we be getting dlc factions for the new DOW?
celest dome
Probably
vagrant fox
In this day and age, definitely
arctic talon
So odd question, but could we be getting dlc factions for the new DOW?
likely considering we've seen guard
DoW 3 had planned dlc for 3 factions
lol
vagrant fox
and there's no dang eldar 👎
languid meadow
Dawn of war fans are so desperate that 4 just needs to be not like 3 and it will sell like hotcakes
celest dome
And no chaos faction either
crystal forum
i feel like half this community learned about the setting from dawn of war
celest dome
Something I wonder is if Space Wolves would be a dlc candidate
crystal forum
i still dont know wtf a blood raven is
queen laurel
And no chaos faction either
yeah the quad fecta of dawn of war is Space Marines, Orks, Eldar, and Chaos Space Marines,
they put in the marines and orcs because they were literally in the first intro
but the other one being admech and necrons
queen laurel
A bit weird but I can work with it
languid meadow
I straight up think that chaos will be the big bad of the story
arctic talon
if chaos doesn't show up as a twist villain
I will be shocked
they've done so in every goddamn DoW game
storm jungle
i still dont know wtf a blood raven is
arctic talon
lol
queen laurel
Dawn of war fans burning the third installment from memory
arctic talon
Chaos also wasn't in basegame DoW 2
so like
Not the first time they've missed the bus lol
queen laurel
Chaos also wasn't in basegame DoW 2
Yeah but like chaos is like almost always an enemy you have to fight
that's like the one rare exception
languid meadow
People will crucify me but I think Blood Ravens are more vanilla than ultramarines
queen laurel
People will crucify me but I think Blood Ravens are more vanilla than ultramari...
no they will skin you alive first then crucify you
celest dome
It's not really wrong though
queen laurel
It's not really wrong though
Just like the basic bitch quote warhammer fans like to say
There are no innocence only degrees of guilt
celest dome
And being thieving magpies is more of a fanlore than anything
queen laurel
Their one gimmick is their big as fuck librarius
They are just like the marines where they don't have any specializations right where they are very flexible
queen laurel
celest dome
Space Wolf are definitely Dlc potential, but what about the other Legions, normal or dlc too
queen laurel
animated AOS show
arctic talon
Space Wolf are definitely Dlc potential, but what about the other Legions, norma...
Any of the chapters with their own codex sup or codex are dlc potential
But I’d rather literally anything else
lol
queen laurel
eldar and chaos first
then we can look at others
at least we need the four quadfecta of warhammer
languid meadow
we prob wont ever get a full faction DLC for SMs most likely just chapter colours/heraldry
that's if we dont have the army painter from the earlier games
queen laurel
Space Marine Dlc
if Space Marine Dlc becomes a thing i will eternally curse your bloodline
celest dome
we prob wont ever get a full faction DLC for SMs most likely just chapter colour...
I would be surprised if SW aren't
Also Chaos
It's going to be CSM only
No Deamon factions
nocturne crest
if chaos doesn't show up as a twist villain
INB4 it's votann or the t'au as the twist villain
languid meadow
God I actually want tau in 4 now as a DLC
would love to see more modern versions of them in games
celest dome
I've been wanting Tau in mechanicus 1/2
queen laurel
It's going to be CSM only <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
if previous games are to go by they will be undivided with random demons from the chaos gods
Like in the original dawn of war you can bring in pink horrors and your super unit was a bloodthirster
languid meadow
"Alpha legion" again
nocturne crest
INB4 it's votann or the t'au as the twist villain
Odd option, but it could be both T'au and Votann, with Demiurg being auxillary race.
covert kiln
Would laugh if it turns out to be some Khornites.
languid meadow
Votann are already in a new warhammer game they ain't getting more - GW
nocturne crest
That's not true Votann in DOW 4, that's just the T'au's squats - GW
Wait, is there flying units in 4?
queen laurel
Wait, is there flying units in 4?
yep
summer mural
they should do emperors children
as chaos twist bois
or proper khornate marines and not just bloodletters
or just do no chaos and do dark eldar villains instead
rose thorn
has the drukhari not gotten a new unit since their apperance in the first dawn of war game?
huh
oh i guess the killteam
the eldar corsairs
let me check
rose thorn
no wait im dead wrong lmao
my bad i thought the 5th edition line came out earlier
even then i forgot about incubi
arctic talon
has the drukhari not gotten a new unit since their apperance in the first dawn o...
They have for sure
Oh wait
Goddamit DISCORD
rose thorn
Lmao
arctic talon
But yeah Dawn of war 1 has the original incubi and mandrakes
rose thorn
wow
arctic talon
The Wych’s and kabalites are a weird hybrid
rose thorn
like in waht way
rose thorn
as in they are the same unit like, wyches and kabalites, or they were a litreal fusion of the two
arctic talon
as in they are the same unit like, wyches and kabalites, or they were a litreal...
Sorry, I meant the Wych’s and warriors looked like a fusion of their 3e and 5e designs
Bad wording
queen laurel
They have for sure
oh yeah wolf well it seems they're going with a Gorkanaut this time for a super unit
for orks
you did say it's more than a match to a castellan
rose thorn
trying to make sure i dont hyperfixate on 40k because i cant afford to start a kroot army
queen laurel
trying to make sure i dont hyperfixate on 40k because i cant afford to start a k...
hyper fixation is your kryptonite because if you saw something new and shiny like the new chaos dwarves you immediately compulsively fight the greatest battle of your life trying not to buy things
rose thorn
how are kroot armies doing anyway
actually are kroot absed off something
they are way too cool and unique to be based off of nothing
Localised Stealth Projectors (Aura):
While a friendly Kroot or Vespid
Stingwings unit is wholly within 6"
of and visible to this unit, that Kroot
or Vespid Stingwings unit can only be
selected as the target of a ranged attack if
the attacking model is within 18".
lmao
crystal forum
oh hey a OFF pfp
rose thorn
yes
crystal forum
that's all i have to say really
rose thorn
off was one of my first hyperfixataions
crystal forum
it was a weird game for sure
rose thorn
rpg maker games my beloved
languid meadow
Jay lurking to see if anything is French
rose thorn
OFF fan interacting with an undertale fan:
outer wave
oh yeah wolf well it seems they're going with a Gorkanaut this time for a super ...
Tangent ork question for the ork expert: isn't there a bigger mek than the Gork/Morkanaut? If so, do you think that'd fair as a better super unit?
rose thorn
undertale did too, specifically aroudn when it released
queen laurel
Tangent ork question for the ork expert: isn't there a bigger mek than the Gork/...
That would be the Stompa
languid meadow
Toby made undertale just to see if he could
crystal forum
"don't be genocidal" is not a message i believe
languid meadow
considering DR was his original idea
rose thorn
the point was 99% of rpg games before that was all about mudering as many enemeis as possible
OFF made you feel like a piece of shit tbf
queen laurel
Tangent ork question for the ork expert: isn't there a bigger mek than the Gork/...
but a Gorkanaut or Morkanaut is basically the equivalent of imperial nights
So they can be modified to be more than capable of keeping up with the bigger imperial Knights
crystal forum
OFF made you feel like a piece of shit tbf
that's because it's an actual artistic impression of severe trauma and a very depressing situation
very very french
languid meadow
Legit every time I see RPG maker fans fight each other it's this
rose thorn
Legit every time I see RPG maker fans fight each other it's this
LMAO
languid meadow
like shut up bro we're in the same boat
outer wave
but a Gorkanaut or Morkanaut is basically the equivalent of imperial nights
I dunno why, but the screenshot you sent up just earlier makes me think theyre gonna be somewhat smaller than the Imperial Knight, which is a bit weird for me ngl
crystal forum
Legit every time I see RPG maker fans fight each other it's this
that's a french name
the channel name
rose thorn
like shut up bro we're in the same boat
yes
queen laurel
I dunno why, but the screenshot you sent up just earlier makes me think theyre g...
eh that's just how gameplay is
RTS sizes can be rather funny
outer wave
Fair fair
crystal forum
i just like the abstractness of OFF
languid meadow
I love undertale but yeah it's not too deep
crystal forum
it's art with meaning behind it
languid meadow
just a side thing that exploded
crystal forum
not just pure aesthetics which seems so prevalent these days
anyways i thank undertale and deltarune for its contributions to my hidden image folder
languid meadow
Toriel....
median star
crystal forum
Toriel....
I KNEW IT
crystal forum
furry 🫵
languid meadow
median star
youre all sinners i think
languid meadow
COLE I'VE SEEN YOUR TWITTER FEED
rose thorn
median star
nu uh
crystal forum
oh god please dont tell me people stan the batter
rose thorn
good job getting their name correct
rose thorn
lmao
crystal forum
also it's a he
languid meadow
eating apples after brushing my teeth holy shit
rose thorn
lets not tlak about OFF spoilershre
crystal forum
ok
rose thorn
off fans and undertale fans cant hate each other anymore since toby fox made the OST
crystal forum
for the remake?
rose thorn
||and made an early easteregg apperance||
median star
eating apples after brushing my teeth holy shit
try an orange next
rose thorn
for the remake?
yes
rose thorn
because he loves OFF?
languid meadow
if an indie project needs a soundtrack it's gonna have Toby
rose thorn
toby fox did it for free
crystal forum
but it's just a remake
rose thorn
its crazy
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/off-batter-severe-neurodivergent-moment-look-at-him-go-gi...
The Batter
||When sickly child||
rose thorn
its a complete remake from an RPG maker game that you downlaoded off a wikipedia page lamo
that was translated by hell
crystal forum
ye and a remake should have the original soundtrack
rose thorn
crystal forum
that was translated by hell
cue the calendar with the original french months
rose thorn
do you want the resident evil remakes to have the resident evil original soundtrack
or the remastered soundtrack
crystal forum
i just like how broken the original ost is
rose thorn
or persona
well i bought the remake day 1 and i can assure you teh new music is very very off
crystal forum
the original ost is like fragmented and grating to listen to a bit. it fits for me
crystal forum
i will listen to the remade pepper steak
crystal forum
its very good
respectfully, i dont like it
bad tone for the game
not depressing enough
the internet is not ready for artistic eurotrash from a french guy who wants to depict the most fucked up situation possible
rose thorn
i will listen to the remade pepper steak
listen do the area 1 music
neither peppersteak is very depressing lmao
crystal forum
yeah i just listened to it
peppersteak is the only real song in the original with a real beat that has energy
and even then it wants to fall apart during the song
rose thorn
crystal forum
like it's pretending to be battle music through a layer of apathy
god i love it so much
the beats literally start over eachother
queen laurel
<:artifoam:1135361102578978966>
oh yeah mags you saw this? https://youtu.be/Q8P88r8E26k?si=geAV21BrNCHszlTm
crystal forum
it's like a barely held together orchestra and everybody's trying to chime in
rose thorn
oh yeah mags you saw this? https://youtu.be/Q8P88r8E26k?si=geAV21BrNCHszlTm
Very excited
languid meadow
one thing I hate about FGS is that a lot of it is just retreads of the previous night
bwah
opaque pumice
playing space marines 2 and its so funny how your reward for a lifetime of service to the Imperium is having your bones turned into a forklift
outer wave
Or you did something bad but the Imperium were meriful enough to give you redemption by turning you into a door servitor
opaque pumice
Or you did something bad but the Imperium were meriful enough to give you redemp...
spending the rest of eternity as a light switch cuz my god of humanity is just so forgiving
outer wave
🙏
storm jungle
playing space marines 2 and its so funny how your reward for a lifetime of servi...
Governor Bezos is proud 🙏
median star
playing space marines 2 and its so funny how your reward for a lifetime of servi...
or you get turned into someones good luck charm or maybe a shield maybe they think you skulls cool enough to become a servo skull
grand hound
To have been so revered in life that even in death you protect someone is still an incredibly cool concept
Even in death, you serve 💅
languid meadow
just came back to see that react Jay....
sick copper
Is this legit? Please tell me this is legit
crystal forum
just came back to see that react Jay....
it is inevitable....
languid meadow
I'm not a total loser
crystal forum
YES YOU ARE
crystal forum
see i make up for it by my crippling addiction to sex
green loom
holy hell is everybody in this channel getting game
I'm not
green loom
that comes with being a DA fan
I'm a BA fan 
crystal forum
it's not our fault that psycho found the only other queer in alberta
@languid meadow also your bf is a freak if he got a rat sona
there is no other possibility
beware skunk and rat sonas
young pecan
Governor Bezos is proud 🙏
Tesla dreadnought model paint when
crystal forum
literally two people in this channel recently got furry boyfriends despite not being furries
what is this hellscape
young pecan
Yeah caprine OC isn't helping the rat allegations
celest dome
what is this hellscape
Your personal hell
young pecan
caprine and rat just tells me he's some dude
Is your pfp supposed to be Cult of the Lamb
crystal forum
no it's my sheep
young pecan
Or does that just happen to also be a lamb with a bell
young pecan
no it's my sheep
D'awww 
crystal forum
cult of the lamb didnt invent sheep and bells
crystal forum
i just like sheep and i wanted a feminine sona
i appreciate the femoid figure despite not desiring it
women are just more aesthetic than men
green loom
Learned skill
crystal forum
i dont have any fashion sense either
young pecan
Societal expectations are probably the biggest part of it
crystal forum
i'm starting to rely on fashion gays for help
green loom
The TechGays helped me build my PC
crystal forum
Societal expectations are probably the biggest part of it
it's popular to be aesthetic as a guy these days though
young pecan
I've been trying to find baggy jeans to make fits with but I can't find any
Anywhere
young pecan
it's popular to be aesthetic as a guy these days though
Oh I mean in terms of why more women are fashionable versus men
Why more learn to be fashionable
crystal forum
it's like an instinct but can be learned yeah
i dont get it personally but i also think industrial equipment is pretty
young pecan
I've been trying to find baggy jeans to make fits with but I can't find any
I have ONE white-blue-ish pair that I adore
green loom
I have no one to go shopping with but I want to buy a turtle neck and fancy coat
crystal forum
you can buy it online
dont even need to wear it outside
just feeling good about what you're wearing is a fun feeling
young pecan
It feels like a waste of a good fit to wear it inside to me
Especially because I need to go to a laundromat for washing clothes atm
crystal forum
im talking for social anxiety
languid meadow
probably has a beard
twinked out
crystal forum
like im sure it's how the trans girls i know feel about wearing dresses in their rooms
even when they cant wear them outside
young pecan
Ohh yea troo
crystal forum
twinked out
an unexpected twist
surreal nest
I have no one to go shopping with but I want to buy a turtle neck and fancy coat
Drippy
young pecan
It was really funny to see the "We can always tell"ers get a little too confident and get humbled literally everywhere
green loom
you can buy it online
I like trying it on
crystal forum
It was really funny to see the "We can always tell"ers get a little too confiden...
it was always about controlling others
young pecan
The 4chan transjak images have done irrevirsible damage to internet peasants' perceptions of transgender people
surreal nest
It was really funny to see the "We can always tell"ers get a little too confiden...
I've seen a bold accusation that megan thee stallion is actually trans and it's like what the fuck are you talking about
young pecan
Holy peak
surreal nest
not only does it not matter who is and isnt trans but you really pick the worst uphill battles
idk why people care so much about what other people do i think its cool
young pecan
Because mainstream Christianity is a plague 
crystal forum
i'd rather beat the unwashed masses into submission about accepting differences than teach them to not care about others
green loom
That time people were saying Hunter Schafer wouldn't pass as Zelda like dude have you SEEN her
They used this exact image like just give her the ears and you're set
languid meadow
It's crazy
surreal nest
That time people were saying Hunter Schafer wouldn't pass as Zelda like dude hav...
Dude that fucking situation pissed me off because these people are constantly screaming about MUHHHH SHOW DOESNT HAVE EXACT FAN REPLICA OF CHARACTERS
celest dome
She could pass for either Zelda or Link tbh
crystal forum
incels have an unhealthy obsession with jawlines
surreal nest
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MOST ZELDA TO EVER ZELDA
crystal forum
like women dont even care about jaws as much as they do
young pecan
incels have an unhealthy obsession with jawlines
Incels, strangely, also LOVE the idea of big Amazonian women
crystal forum
it's like they're fixated on the chad meme as the norm of beauty
young pecan
But women can't have masculine features??
surreal nest
incels have an unhealthy obsession with jawlines
A lot of these "we can always tell crowds" are like obsessed with male physique and facial structure
green loom
Bringing out the fkn Phrenology papers to say "this woman is a man actually" and it's just a cis woman
surreal nest
bro phrenology is getting referred to way too often it is insane
young pecan
I didn't know what phrenology was until now
crystal forum
according to incels, flula borg has peak male facial structure
young pecan
Dudes thinking there is no barrier between the skin and the brain
Like how are the head bumps going to determine mental faculties??
crystal forum
it's literally all about the jaw for these people
like are you preparing to suck dick or smth? why does jaw matter
young pecan
according to incels, flula borg has peak male facial structure
Minecraft Steve ass jawline
surreal nest
according to incels, flula borg has peak male facial structure
This is the most face I've ever seen on a human
crystal forum
he is a funny german
surreal nest
idk how to describe it
does he make the car videos where he is like "why would you want enemy to suck you how is that an insult"
or am i tweaking
crystal forum
yeah it's him
crystal forum
he's also the spear guy in the second suicide squad
if you didnt recognize the jaw
surreal nest
That is insane I did not know that
crystal forum
i just think his face is a good demonstration that having a rock solid jawline doesnt mean you're brad pitt
young pecan
does he make the car videos where he is like "why would you want enemy to suck y...
HIMMM
I thought that was some random dude who made a shitpost
crystal forum
nah he even appeared on connan obrien
surreal nest
i just think his face is a good demonstration that having a rock solid jawline d...
yeah I like him and everything but i dont really think I enjoy his face
crystal forum
i think he's cute
he has warm eyes
why do console releases have separate trailers
storm jungle
because consoles are cancer
crystal forum
because consoles are cancer
woah dilara careful there you might get yelled racial slurs through a mic that has way too much gain
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-cat-cat-my-honest-reaction-cat-with-th...
shrewd depot
Question: I've seen it somewhere that anyone who tries to use a Droppod who isn't a Space Marine gets liquified by the impact, buuut I was watching the secret level episode when I realised the psyker is a regular human inside a stone coffin
How tf did he survive
arctic talon
Question: I've seen it somewhere that anyone who tries to use a Droppod who isn'...
Drop pods can be modified for human usage
if you use a drop pod fresh off the assembly line as a normal human
you will infact break your bones and die horribly
But additional cushoning, thrusters, and harnasses can prevent injury while using marine drop pods
there's also savior pods and other drop pods not designed for that sort of insertion that are usable by humans
the one used in secret level was modified for the psyker
shrewd depot
Hm
shrewd depot
Side note, they really did just jump down the fucking hole totally not knowing if they'd just slam into the bottom
shrewd depot
Psyker dude ain't surviving that one
misty vector
They probably prepared for the worst when they put him in that box for transport
arctic talon
^
shrewd depot
Oh nah I'm reading some books now where psykers are just the most ridiculous part of the book
storm jungle
Oh nah I'm reading some books now where psykers are just the most ridiculous par...
thats because 40k doesnt really have a hard-set rule for magic
arctic talon
idk, I think they'd have scanned it all before hand and prepped for it lol
storm jungle
any psyker in any book can just do whatever the author wants
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
I do like that about psykers
storm jungle
ahriman, mephiston, the emperor etc
arctic talon
tbh
misty vector
The limitless energy from the ether has a funny way of doing that
arctic talon
Eldrad in the original 13th black crusade lore literally possesing a Blackstone fortress and tearing himself out of slaanesh's stomach is still insane lol
Shame the original 13th black crusade lore was awful
shrewd depot
I found it slightly anticlimactic how the psyker in outer dark just no-diff'd the patriarch after he nearly took down a Contempter
arctic talon
psyker dif
I do find it hilarious how in Secret Level
all the marines would have died if the sorceress didn't decide to have fun killing the marines lol
shrewd depot
It looked like a Slaanesh daemon so you kinda expect it
near wasp
It was def a tzeentch daemon
tough haven
What are cool effects on the environment for right before a minor demonic incursion
storm jungle
Place getting cold, whispers, visual or sensory overload, images wraping, etc
opaque coyote
Guards, take them away
Cats are the
Most successful species on earth
They have learned to mooch off of the top animals on this planet
And have done it successfully
Even the ugly ones have people that love them
They have cheated evolution and nature
...
Minus the neuter and spay
They easily lost on that front
arctic talon
What are cool effects on the environment for right before a minor demonic incurs...
room getting cold, you feel mentally unwell, like your head is splitting open, everything your body is doing is telling you to leave but there's nothing wrong, a sense of vertigo/familiarity with a strange feeling, air suddenly goes still, constant static/tinnitus in your ear
shrewd depot
Every low level psyker in the room beginning to bleed from their eyes...
nocturne crest
If GW decided to make combat patrol based on the Blood Ravens, what would any of you all expect to be in it?
storm jungle
Id assume just generic base marine units
thats usually how combat patrols work iirc lol
arctic talon
If GW decided to make combat patrol based on the Blood Ravens, what would any of...
Librarian
Intercessors
(free space for any non terminator or gravis infantry unit)
Redemptor Dreadnought
crystal forum
@rose thorn thanks now i cant stop listening to peppersteak again
sour hornet
What are cool effects on the environment for right before a minor demonic incurs...
any paint begins cracking and curling, a general sense of unease, everything getting supernaturally still
food spoiling, light and electrical components glitches and flickering
statues and surfaces begin to leak blood from their eyes and crevices
nocturne crest
Librarian
Intercessors
(free space for any non terminator or gravis infantry uni...
How about assault intercessors?
young pecan
Minus the neuter and spay
All they had to do was not be so inconvenient because of a lack of neuter/spay
Rip billions of balls
young pecan
statues and surfaces begin to leak blood from their eyes and crevices
That's happened in lore?
storm jungle
Literally almost anything you can think of paranormally has happened in the lore
young pecan
I really like that if so, a lot of supernatural stuff is depicted to do that in other media, but it has no reason to at all
storm jungle
including the ones Aiye listed
storm jungle
I really like that if so, a lot of supernatural stuff is depicted to do that in ...
I mean it doesnt here either
it just looks cool
lol
storm jungle
Eh kinda? But thats not really a reason for the paranormal effects
young pecan
Statues have more emotional link to humans as a depiction of them
arctic talon
There’s a peril of the warp that just makes it rain blood and thin the veil across the entire planet
lol
storm jungle
Theres no reason for the Warp for example to be cold or daemonhosts in the lore or things to make their environment chilly/frozen.
Its just a thing borrowed from the Exorcist movie because the visual looks really good and has spread across media.
young pecan
Eh kinda? But thats not really a reason for the paranormal effects
I think the reason makes enough sense
The other things are stereotypical paranormal things true
storm jungle
I think the reason makes enough sense
Its mostly just us trying to search for an explanation
the paranormal will basically do anything we deem "unnatural" in media because it looks scary
its about as goofy as like how uh
young pecan
I just like the idea that the emotional or perceptive energy that the statue holds is enough to make that an effect of the warp
storm jungle
that one 30k HH rulebook explains why warhammer uses melee weapons
and its some dumb shit like how it affects daemons/warp creatures more because melee weapons harken back to our primordial state of some shit
it gets dumber the more you try to explain it
in reality 40k has melee combat beacuse it looks cool lol
young pecan
I thought it was just because it's more personal
young pecan
And that has a greater effect on emotion-created beings
storm jungle
you really dont need to explain this stuff basically is my point
it ruins the mystique
or well just makes it dumb
because most of these require no explanation lol
arctic talon
What about the reveal that asurman’s sword has his dead brothers soul in it
young pecan
Explanation for some of it doesn't make it dumb imo
sour hornet
That's happened in lore?
Dilara is correct. What i sent is taken almost word for word from the Dark Heresy 1st and 2nd Edition source books
storm jungle
What about the reveal that asurman’s sword has his dead brothers soul in it
Cool fact. Adds basically nothing to his character and is never mentioned again.
40k lore moment
young pecan
Like chaos should still do things that surprise and baffle us, but explaining small details like that doesn't spoil the fun methinks
storm jungle
Chaos doing that depends on the talent of the writer
and 99% of them can do nothing but make them generic cthulu monster cultists
ive seen em all lol
storm jungle
yeah 40k I always find neat when it explores the minor distant bits within the setting, its why im very much into the homebrew front of things than the actual narrative
HH slop ive had enough of 💀
sour hornet
Real lmao
arctic talon
Cool fact. Adds basically nothing to his character and is never mentioned again.
Ngl wtf does he even do in it lol
young pecan
39,999* 
crystal forum
actually it's 38'999 hammers because there is no 0 hammer
nocturne crest
Has there ever been a book that makes chaos look like a better option than the imperium?
crisp heath
Did you guys know Andy Serkis plays 40k?
arctic talon
Has there ever been a book that makes chaos look like a better option than the i...
The blood gorgon stuff, unfortunately a chunk of it was plagiarized from Iraq and Vietnam war memoirs
No I am not joking
nocturne crest
......
arctic talon
So you get a cultist monologuing about being in a hellish jungle
I am not joking
In any case the stuff the dude wrote that wasn’t plagerized was extremely good
But yeah his bastion wars stuff has plagiarized veteran memoirs
He himself was also a veteran
lol
Henry Zou is a little weird
arctic talon
Either the master of the ship he was on or thr grandmaster
crisp heath
I still haven't played that game
nocturne crest
Awful idea: Grey Knights or Deathwatch become a dlc faction for DOW 4.
Actually, now that I think about it, we could have the Custodes as a faction for 4.
opaque coyote
Awful idea: Grey Knights or Deathwatch become a dlc faction for DOW 4.
Honestly Deathwatch does sound actually interesting
Like I get that most Inquistors don't like using Xeno weapons
For obvious reasons
But honestly I just think Space Marines using shit like T'au Pulse Rifles or even Necron Weaponry (If they somehow can) is cool
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547
tbf there are some deathwatch that outright do use xenos weaponry
it just depends on the inquistor
basically puritan and radical
crisp heath
I didn't know this!
opaque coyote
Puritan is equivalent to Conservative
Basically "Must follow book and emperor. If you don't, death."
Radical is more liberal. Basically...
"Hey if it works, it fucking works"
This can range from small things like recruiting abhumans.
crisp heath
The imperium are so hypocritical
opaque coyote
To just... literally casting Chaos Spells
opaque coyote
The imperium are so hypocritical <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
tbf the puritans hate the radicals and vice versa
There are also multiple ordos and philosophies within both groups.
The inquistors are not one cohesive group
crisp heath
I know but still
opaque coyote
Basically a Radical could range from "Hey, maybe I shouldn't murder this guy yet"
to
"I'M GONNA USE DAEMONS. I TOTALLY WON'T BE CORRUPTED TRUST ME BRO."
and Puritans can range from regular to
"DID YOU JUST FUCKING BREATHE IN FRONT OF ME?"
"uhhh-"
"YOU WILL BE GOING IN THE CBT CHAMBER BUDDY"
opaque coyote
I know but still
There are some insane philosophies. One of my "Favorite" ones is Istvaanism!
Yes, referring to the infamous Istvaan massacre.
Basically, in this galaxy filled with war, strife, etc. You know what it needs?
More war.
crisp heath
opaque coyote
Their main modus operandi is simple
Cause more wars
Destablize planets to have wars in them
etc.
crisp heath
These are astartes I'm assuming, loyal?
crisp heath
Ah
opaque coyote
This is a Inquistorial philosophy
opaque coyote
Basically they believe
that war is good
That it would stimulate development and strength.
crisp heath
War is incredibly profitable I wonder if 40k it is too
opaque coyote
This philosophy is one of the few that are generally considering fucking insane.
And any inquistor that is known for following it is KoS
Because the war making includes things like
Supplying Chaos Cultists
to continue it
crisp heath
Yeah
opaque coyote
for no real benefit.
crisp heath
Starting insurgencys to fight other groups instead of putting your own men in
opaque coyote
Starting insurgencys to fight other groups instead of putting your own men in
I mean inquistors do that
crisp heath
Kinda what they do w orks hey
opaque coyote
But the problem is that the istvaan people aren't doing it for like
a purpose
or to help the emperor
crisp heath
They supply a warboss they pick and give him the means to wage war on other tribes
opaque coyote
They're literally doing it just to cause more bloodshed
opaque coyote
They supply a warboss they pick and give him the means to wage war on other trib...
You see, in that case, it's to distract them.
crisp heath
Keep the orks fighting each other instead of imperium
opaque coyote
But Istvaanism just kinda
crisp heath
Pretty smart tbh
opaque coyote
causes bloodshed for literally zero reason
beyond "more war is good"
Chaos Cult? Instead of eliminating it
crisp heath
Khorne would like this lol
opaque coyote
Khorne would like this lol
yeah and that's why Inquistors that follow Istvaanism are deemed heretical
Generally there are a lot of subfacitons
and ordos
Sub-Factions are what I mentioned just now
Inquistors whose methods are notable.
crisp heath
So how do these people fall into these ideologies like are they hiding thete intention the whole time untill they have a ship or
Or does it slowly happen over time
opaque coyote
Ordos are generally more about interests.
The Ordos Xenos is interested in Xenos and killing them
The Ordos Hereticus investigates and roots out heresy
The Ordos Malleus are about fighting Daemons directly.
These are the 3 major Ordos
...
and there are a bunch of smaller ones
crisp heath
I mean the istvaanism like they can't leave there training like this right?
opaque coyote
I mean the istvaanism like they can't leave there training like this right?
Istvaanism is a philosophy
Essentially any inquistor can suddenly think
"Hm, yeah this sounds neat"
arctic talon
Violence is good
opaque coyote
It's similar to how people are attracted to philosophies
They think it's cool
or interesting
crisp heath
Ah
opaque coyote
that it holds all the answers
opaque coyote
Basically there's a lot of interesting Inquistoral Sub-Factions and Ordos
arctic talon
What’s your favorite inqusition philosophy
opaque coyote
Go to the holy Lexicanum and read it
arctic talon
winged jacinth
Ordo chronos
opaque coyote
What’s your favorite inqusition philosophy
I have two. Istvaanism because it's funny.
Xenos Hybris because it can be interesting, also gives an opportunity for an Inquistor retinue to visit a Xenos planet and not immediately torch them.
winged jacinth
get into fight over linear time
accidentally unmake yourself for a little
Istvaanism aka ||the cia 
||
opaque coyote
Istvaanism aka ||the cia <:staregryn:1022085083844325376> ||
Yeah basically, except somehow even more pointless
It does genuinely have interesting storytelling potential tho
opaque coyote
Ordo chronos
Honestly I have thought of writing like
A newbie Inquistor doing an Exterminatus for the first time
and just vomiting because they just murdered an entire planet
near wasp
Oh you sweet summers child
Also have them subject to an investigation by the Ordo extermitus
Since 90 percent of inquistors lose there job after there first extermintus
opaque coyote
Oh you sweet summers child
Yeah I know, Inquistors (even new ones), are used to genocide.
But like I can imagine one either being trigger happy, being exactly like the memes, only to get taken out like two days later because there was only a grot population increase.
Or one that is similar to how the Death Star Laser controller guy is
Trying desperately to avoid doing it despite shit being FUBAR
Delaying as long as possible
opaque coyote
Delaying as long as possible
And that part seems kinda interesting
Like how does a new Inquistor who still has some of his humanity left deal with fucking eliminating an entire planet full of people
To twist the knife more, imagine if it's like his home planet or something
green loom
To serve the imperium is to lose yourself
Your humanity being stripped either by war or the imperium itself to make you a better manufactorum worker
opaque coyote
To serve the imperium is to lose yourself
Yeah basically.
The journey to losing yourself and giving into duty as an Inquistor would be extremely painful
Mentally, physically, etc
And it sounds like good writing material. I need to read more books about the Inquistion
"Suffering builds character" - Emperor
sour hornet
Istvaanism aka ||the cia <:staregryn:1022085083844325376> ||
Istvaanism is so fucking based
They want more cataclysmic battles so that GW is forced to move the plot forwards
Cadia? Thank Istvaanism.
Nachmund/Vigilus? Thank Istvaanism
Betalis? Once again, thank Istvaanism.
opaque coyote
They want more cataclysmic battles so that GW is forced to move the plot forward...
"Man this shit is boring. A little more war would do wonders!"
sour hornet
Yeah I know, Inquistors (even new ones), are used to genocide.
Yeah its bc all inquisitors microdose warcrimes as explicators and interrogators
winged jacinth
"THE EMPEROR CLEARLY SAID ONLY WAR"
median star
is the same helmet used for both mk7 or 8 armors
dapper gyro
Lore wise, Mk8 helmet is not the same, as not even compatible with previous model.
Reality, very close. Officially, Mk7 helm has the tubes around the cheeks, the Mk8 has grids on the cheeks. However, people bashing kits together all the time, so really take it as a grain of salt.
shrewd depot
Yeah its bc all inquisitors microdose warcrimes as explicators and interrogators
I don't think the concept of warcrimes exist in 40k
And if they do, they certainly don't apply to possible traitors
queen laurel
oh hell nah they made an event for @storm jungle
tough haven
I don't think the concept of warcrimes exist in 40k
It does, they’re called “Objectives”
Working on my blank Skitarii Vanguard, trying to think of cool ways they’d perceive or look at their “gift”
Would they see it as another gift from the omnissiah? Would they see it just like another kind of radiation, anointing the faithful and burning clean the wicked? (Psykers and daemons)
tough haven
In your standard daemonic incursion, is it usually one faction of daemons or does a mix come out?
I know generally the different factions of chaos getting along is rare and a cause for alarm
But I imagine an incursion is kinda like a hole being blasted in a spaceship, everything in that area of the warp gets sucked out
Doesn’t mean they’ll work together when they come out
Or maybe they’ll kinda just kill everything on the other side then start fighting
hexed orchid
In your standard daemonic incursion, is it usually one faction of daemons or doe...
You could get anything and everything. They might not even be associated with one of the gods
raven stone
oh hell nah they made an event for <@166943308231344128>
US forces in Middle East simulator
rose thorn
resisting buying a kroot army
idk might buy the KT
THEY ARE COWBOYS
THYE ARE THE COOLEST THING IN 40K
near wasp
If it's not the result of a specific chaos ritual dedicated to a god it's likely you'll get random daemons or furies
Also I'm looking for a way to start my 40k story. I'm thinking I start at the schola or maybe on the ship on the way back to his world
rocky gale
Huh, there's more Kroot units available than I thought
rocky gale
Almost as many Kroot models as there are Drukhari
Not really any transports of them though
near wasp
Almost as many Kroot models as there are Drukhari
To be fair that's not hard to do
rose thorn
nah but htey have universal stealth stuff
i dont think any tau transports can carry kroot
id have to check
rocky gale
Their detachment gives all Kroot a 5+ Invul to ranged, so there's that atleast
celest dome
If it's not the result of a specific chaos ritual dedicated to a god it's likely...
Well as much chance as falling on any of the particular lesser deamons
rocky gale
Looks like they'd really struggle against any kind of vehicles though
rose thorn
yeah but at least they have a lil bit of anti vehicle, like hte killteam and krootox
lil melee, lil shooting, alot of movemenet gimmicks
rocky gale
The Killteam anti-vehicle isn't great looks like their best anti vehicle option is actually the Lone Spear
With it's Blast Javelins
rose thorn
nice
rocky gale
Like this on the Farstalkers wouldn't be bad if you could have several of them in one unit, but 1 in the entire unit is kinda useless
rose thorn
how it feels reading the kroot rules
Im home...
mid shooting, stealth, microscopic melee, small model line
truely beautiful
kroot are so cool they almost feel like an aos faction
(i really like kroot)
rocky gale
Their point cost is also slightly wonky, like Krootox riders, you can take as a squad of 1, 2 or 3.
40pts for 1, 60pts for 2 and 90 pts for 3
winged jacinth
Huh
rocky gale
So 40pts for 1, 20 pts for a second, then 30 more points for a third
queen laurel
Like this on the Farstalkers wouldn't be bad if you could have several of them i...
not gonna lie even the krootox which is supposed to be big guys don't look like a lot
rose thorn
i think you only wanna run 1 unit of krootox riders either way? still its weird
also i dont think kroot interact with the tau army rule?
im nto sure
rocky gale
Yea they don't, so even in the Kroot detachment you'd need a few Tau units to use the army rule
queen laurel
Yea they don't, so even in the Kroot detachment you'd need a few Tau units to us...
do tau have auxiliary rules or something
like a detachment just for using auxiliaries
rocky gale
There's a detachment that buffs Kroot, but it still doesn't give them the Army rule.
queen laurel
There's a detachment that buffs Kroot, but it still doesn't give them the Army r...
Damn
rocky gale
It's weird
rocky gale
Na it's the "For the Greater Good" they need to have
rocky gale
So they can be selected as Observer units, but they don't get the bonus because they don't have "For the Greater Good"
summer mural
whats with all the aeldari references in the game
winged jacinth
Dunno yet
summer mural
theres apparently xenos incursions on tertium , theres aeldari ships trailng the mourningstar
id bet my cyber mastiff that swagger is an aeldari in disguise
winged jacinth
I think the ships are from a mortis flashback right
winged jacinth
But yeah sefoni is dreaming of the alaitoc sigil and some other stuff
summer mural
that too
winged jacinth
There's webway gates everywhere
hallow plover
id bet my cyber mastiff that swagger is an aeldari in disguise
Odd way to say genestealer
winged jacinth
Somehow there's a bunch of them that are big enough for craftworlds the imperium never ever finds
summer mural
also, someone guessed to me that grendyls tech which has kept him alive onboard the ship for all that time is aeldari in nature
and thats why they are interested in the mourningstar
which is kinda plausible ig
median star
sacred bluff
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/raonxeh6/the-dropsite-massacr...
i enjoyed mortis so this might be good 
summer mural
i like the crew is playable now
I can finally take scaevola to the field now
and have him die a horrible death at the hands of a pack of flayed ones
languid meadow
It's awesome
summer mural
when does it release
languid meadow
The art for all the characters looks so good as well
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/XD_nKRCwz0w?si=DXLBJ97p4cT3vS62
I haven't finished mechanicus but I think I might just install this because it's one of the few games where I can play as a necron
like besides dawn of war
summer mural
I have to finish m1 too
queen laurel
what other game can you play as them
summer mural
Im near the end
summer mural
lol
next year prob
dow4 is next year, which is good, they got plenty of time to polish it
queen laurel
dow4 is next year, which is good, they got plenty of time to polish it
Judging from the images shown they have gotten a good amount of pieces into the game
so they have been building this game for quite awhile now
median star
id say spring at latest
summer mural
yeah, more polish is good
plus unless its just absolutely terrible, im sure itl have dlc
prob chaos faction or imp guard
queen laurel
prob chaos faction or imp guard
I'm betting on chaos because literally 2 imperials 2 xenos is a unique line up for a Dawn of war game
summer mural
chaos is nice
queen laurel
we need at least one representation for chaos
summer mural
hopefully a less common used chaos faction, id like emperors children
queen laurel
so that you have presentation from imperium aliens and chaos
queen laurel
hopefully a less common used chaos faction, id like emperors children
Let's be honest it's probably gonna be chaos undivided for ease of use
Just like previous dawn of war
queen laurel
do dark eldar instead of chaos
nah three xenos is gonna give GW an aneurysm
summer mural
although I feel like there was an insane amount of eldar combat in dow2 for some reason
like you fought them a lot
queen laurel
although I feel like there was an insane amount of eldar combat in dow2 for some...
Yeah even as eldar
Which is like the worst campaign in dawn of War 2
it was
uhh
not good
summer mural
i still have trauma from the grav tanks and those warp spider exarchs
yeah fighting eldar isnt fun either, because they are slippery and do all the shooty shooty
queen laurel
yeah fighting eldar isnt fun either, because they are slippery and do all the sh...
What's Dumber is fighting eldar as eldar
h
like these guys are a dying race the last thing they need is killing each other
summer mural
but admech as one of the factions is just peak
actual skitarii army
its probably gonna have those walkers too
and admech as their own entire faction and not just support for sm
queen laurel
but admech as one of the factions is just peak
To be honest I like the weird lineup, orks and marines are the face of dawn of war and are part of the original quadfecta
necrons come from the most beloved expansion of dawn of War One
summer mural
necrons and admech are peak
queen laurel
and admech are a great choice
summer mural
necrons Im still used to seeing as their own faction
queen laurel
Though a dawn of war game where eldar and chaos are not in feel weird
summer mural
but admech as independant army with their own units is nice
chaos will prob be there at some point
queen laurel
chaos will prob be there at some point
orks, marines eldar chaos which are the original factions on like the very first dawn of war game have been in every game since then
queen laurel
dont need 3 imperium factions, now that we have admech
ehh guard are already in the game so they might be a surprise faction or DLC
They might winter assault it
summer mural
guard are kinda boring at this point for me now ngl
surreal nest
https://youtu.be/XD_nKRCwz0w?si=DXLBJ97p4cT3vS62
VOTANN????
summer mural
like i just gotta see more tempestus scions, some tanks, catachans etc, its not particularly exciting
skitarii vanguard and rangers are cool
surreal nest
Dawn of war was bred for guard i would be pissed without their inclusion
queen laurel
like i just gotta see more tempestus scions, some tanks, catachans etc, its not ...
well guard was the very first new faction for dawn of war history so
^
Whether you like it or not they're gonna come to the game because many people love them
grand hound
Guard have to be in the game, they always have been and are one of the more played factions
queen laurel
they are not in at launch, so probably dlc
Yes that's what I said
summer mural
admech, guard, sm
queen laurel
they are not in at launch, so probably dlc
The original dawn of war had two alien factions one for chaos one for imperium
grand hound
Oh, for sure, I'm assuming we'll get some live service-esque dlc update schedule
queen laurel
It's not that big of a deal trust me
grand hound
As long as they don't make each faction broken with the new expacs it'll be fine
Soul Storm was brutal with how oppressive sisters were
rocky gale
Deploy Celestians with full Melta = win
rocky gale
Sorry are my anti infantry, anti heavy infantry, anti vehicle, anti building, infantry unit with more armour and HP than your tank a problem?
grand hound
Nah, Cyrus will probably be our guy and Gabby will take a backseat
summer mural
orion is there too