where they also gutted the MP team
#40k-lore-chat
dapper gyro
It wasn't even MS gaming action, it was own 343i executive people action.
arctic talon
which led to these things being cut: covenant carbine, spiker, fuel rod cannon(we kinda got it), Falcon(from the reach update), Stanchion as its own weapon, the brute shotgun(from an earlier update)
storm jungle
its joever...
rocky gale
Finally, Dawn of Four
storm jungle
😔
arctic talon
Why are admech their own faction
dapper gyro
That ad mech has smooth skin!!!!
queen laurel
Why are admech their own faction
I mean the imperial guard and the space marines were fighting each other and they are different enough
storm jungle
Why are admech their own faction
because admech rae their own faction?
arctic talon
rather then another xenos/chaos faction
storm jungle
the fuck kind of question is this
arctic talon
storm jungle
servitorize this man
arctic talon
no
queen laurel
rather then another xenos/chaos faction
Were you expecting orc space marine eldar?
arctic talon
I'll do it to you smh
I mean I was expecting Ork, Space marine, eldar, necrons
after dawn of war 3
rocky gale
Orks are in the back of the poster
arctic talon
you are correct
storm jungle
Where they belong
arctic talon
that appears to be a gorknaut
rocky gale
They're just covered by the paper
arctic talon
lol
queen laurel
that appears to be a gorknaut
or a giant war boss and mega nob armour
wait is gorgutz back for back for round 3
arctic talon
AGAIN
queen laurel
They're just covered by the paper
wait where's the third trifecta faction of dawn of war because there's the marines, orks and well eldar
dawn war 3 as much as garbage it was practically solidified those 3 as the factions you need to include day one
languid meadow
this is fake not because of a DoW4 but because they're putting necrons and admech in it
queen laurel
where are the pointy ears
hallow plover
Behind the sheet
arctic talon
and coming later
languid meadow
dont see chaos but like cmon they're gonna be the big bad until the crons show up
shadow plover
no way
dapper gyro
Or DLC
languid meadow
not complaining !!!!
arctic talon
is this an Ork vehicle?
queen laurel
is this an Ork vehicle?
battle wagon
dapper gyro
Because DLC makes money.
hallow plover
Orks are in the background
arctic talon
it looks orky to me
hallow plover
You can see banner things
languid meadow
queen laurel
it looks orky to me
it's a yellow battle wagon you blind grot
arctic talon
lmao
languid meadow
Bro I'm just glad lychgaurd and doomstalkers are in the game
dapper gyro
Lets make peace and say "Chaos Orks".
hallow plover
||genestealer|| orks
rocky gale
Will this be our first Dawn of War with Primaris?
queen laurel
Boys he's back for round 3
rocky gale
Nice
arctic talon
unless you count the boardgame
and the white dwarf short story
of the blood ravens getting primaris
arctic talon
Boys he's back for round 3
god his design in DoW 3 was cool
DoW 3 was cool in general
aside from the fucking GAMEPLAY
rocky gale
Means I don't have to play with the silly looking Firstborn
arctic talon
hot take but the DoW3 models actually looked great
and I think there's nothing aesthetically wrong with them looking like literal freshly painted toys
vagrant fox
A bunch of bits about DoW3 is cool, just not the gameplay
queen laurel
hot take but the DoW3 models actually looked great
I mean that's not a stretch to say from a visual standpoint the game looks genuinely awesome
languid meadow
They blew knights on 3 but fuck I hope admech can get a knight 
arctic talon
Some people hated the DoW 3 artstyle
because it was too colorful
which is.... a take
queen laurel
Some people hated the DoW 3 artstyle
Are they ******* kidding
This hobby is literally about painting colors and they're mad it's too colorful
arctic talon
I mean its different aesthetically from the trailer
so ig thats why lol
but still the actual aesthetic of the game is fine imo
shadow plover
the only issue I had with how DoW3 looked was how lanky the marines were, but that didn't bother me too much
queen laurel
well it seems taldeer will be taking a break
arctic talon
well it seems taldeer will be taking a break
I mean yeah she's dead
green loom
queen laurel
yes it is
arctic talon
Taldeer is busy being shoved into a wraithknight
queen laurel
it's literally 1 to one with models
dapper gyro
SM in DoW3 is almost as slender as the UM movie.
queen laurel
Taldeer is busy being shoved into a wraithknight
She died?
green loom
If rumours are to be believed this is the Iron Harvest devs
queen laurel
Damn I didn't know that
queen laurel
If rumours are to be believed this is the Iron Harvest devs
ohh I expect the mech animations to go hard then
hallow plover
Say that DoW4 is set in the current 40k timeline. How much time would have passes since the other games?
languid meadow
this has reminded me that we need more trailers for mechanicus 2
dapper gyro
200 years at most imo.
queen laurel
Yes she died lol
At a book
arctic talon
Say that DoW4 is set in the current 40k timeline. How much time would have pass...
DoW 3 happens in 999.M41
so
queen laurel
she didn't die in the third game if i recall
queen laurel
she was a wraithknight in 3
Damn I am very ******* stupid
arctic talon
realistically if its in the "latest" time frame
its around 25 years later
at least
queen laurel
she died in 2
i'm sorry i was playing as blud d flag
dapper gyro
DoW 3 happens in 999.M41
Oh really?
languid meadow
was the bug rumor engine already posted?
rocky gale
Don't think so
arctic talon
Oh really?
Its like very close to it since the White Dwarf Blood raven story starts in it
languid meadow
bughhhh
rocky gale
Probably Sylvaneth
arctic talon
and they've said Angelos has just left a year or two earlier
queen laurel
its around 25 years later
wait i'm confusing her for another one who's the eldar at the very first dawn of war like the original captain Gabriel encountered
vagrant fox
I heard it's a necron bug
queen laurel
Yes you're messing her up with Macha or whatever her name is
yes her
languid meadow
already seeing people complain about the lack of IG and Chaos..... like it's a leak of a blurry poster bro calm down
queen laurel
but yeah Taldeer looks like this
yeah it her so i swear to god if gabriel gorgutz and macha show up again i will be laughing like a maniac
arctic talon
already seeing people complain about the lack of IG and Chaos..... like it's a l...
IG wasn't in 2 on launch or 1 on launch
or 3 on launch
queen laurel
i hope we get new characters
languid meadow
rocky gale
I'm just praying it's not made by the same people who did realms of ruin
queen laurel
i love the three of them but if the trifecta characters of dawn of war return i will be laughing
arctic talon
i hope we get new characters
Dawn of war 2 has damned us
arctic talon
I'm just praying it's not made by the same people who did realms of ruin
its made by relic
so you're safe on that
languid meadow
wait was that poster supposed to be shown at gamescom?
the one that starts in 2 hours lmao
arctic talon
Yes
dapper gyro
Relic is kind of hit and miss though.
queen laurel
so you're safe on that
Eddy also said
If rumours are to be believed this is the Iron Harvest devs
arctic talon
this is likely being revealed within the day
languid meadow
HOLY PEAK?
arctic talon
lol
queen laurel
So I am expecting some premium animations if that is true
because the mech animations of iron harvest do not miss
arctic talon
dapper gyro
A teaser at least
rocky gale
It feels like an RTS game made by a group of people who only know what an RTS is because it was described to them by a guy who watched someone playing one for 30 seconds 20 years ago.
languid meadow
meth
arctic talon
It feels like an RTS game made by a group of people who only know what an RTS is...
realms of ruin is so sad
queen laurel
yeah i see ork
dapper gyro
Chaos Ork
arctic talon
thats an ork lmao
queen laurel
Chaos Ork
Deino say Chaos Ork again and i will pray to the gods that starcraft 4 becomes a thing but instead of an RTS it becomes an MMO
languid meadow
https://www.youtube.com/live/74oh7zD_jxI?si=gvyjv-XFTewSykEi well preshow starts in 17mins
so I'm gonna grab something to eat beforehand
dapper gyro
Deino say Chaos Ork again and i will pray to the gods that starcraft 4 becomes a...
Chaos Ork! StarCraft is already dead, mmo or rts, anything will do.
If it is a FPS, even better.
queen laurel
Chaos Ork! StarCraft is already dead, mmo or rts, anything will do.
fine the story is written by Garth ennis
dapper gyro
Nah, dude is too prideful to work for Blizzard.
languid meadow
green loom
Chaos Ork! StarCraft is already dead, mmo or rts, anything will do.
Would you be interested in playing acclaimed genre saving RTS Stormgate????
(It's not great)
dapper gyro
Indeed not great.
queen laurel
Would you be interested in playing acclaimed genre saving RTS Stormgate????
eddy I would rather RIP off my nutsack and then gargle my balls than play that
green loom
Fkn unoptimized like shit too
rocky gale
An RTS, that lacks all the key mechanics of an RTS, optimised for console rather than PC, given no advertisement and no long term support and developed by a team who usually make park building Sim games and who've never made an RTS before. I wonder why it crashed.
queen laurel
Fkn unoptimized like shit too
it looks like someone saw StarCraft in Warcraft mashed them together and then beat to death with a stick
dapper gyro
Made by ex Blizzard dev, si yes.
green loom
It was a bunch of ex starcraft devs but like
With a non existent art department
To the point half the game is Image gen lmfao
arctic talon
Would you be interested in playing acclaimed genre saving RTS Stormgate????
midgate
languid meadow
I love how fantasy is the only warhammer IP to get consistent good video games with AoS and 40k being a gamble every time
dapper gyro
Their management is not ex blizzard... So they don't really have a direction.
green loom
Democracy officer being one of the main chars was funny
I swear that guy is everywhere now and just does everything
green loom
Oh lmao so he's just the cheapest?
Oh shit he was a lot of high profile chars years ago
Now he just sounds like the democracy officer constantly lmao
dapper gyro
I love StarCraft, so I wish it a peaceful death, which it is getting at the moment.
arctic talon
Oh lmao so he's just the cheapest?
He's not just the cheapest, he's also not on strike
well not fully strike
Some companies are wary of working with SAGAFTRA rn
due to the whole, sign the contract where you can only use SAGAFTRA VAs
and we'll give things that allow non SAGAFTRA VAs to work on the project, but you only get a certian amount of those per VA forever
for life
green loom
SAG's pretty shit as far as unions go no
dapper gyro
Thanks Mr Chaos Ork for being more optimistic than the rest of the SC fans.
green loom
Lot of the actors probably approve 
Unfortunately
Hopefully they make an actually good one some day
arctic talon
Lot of the actors probably approve <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I mean yeah it gets them exclusive contracts with that studio
lol
if you're not part of SAG(aka not american)
get fucked
you need to beg SAG for a piece of paper that says you can work on that project, and you only get a few per your entire life
because of course thats how it works
I don't blame companies for telling SAG to fuck off with how being a SAG contracted studio means you cannot use any external VAs
arctic talon
A shame the choice is
"Get exploited"
And
"Get exploited"
some of the non SAG studios have better benefits then SAG Ironically 💀
which means becoming SAG contracted is a downgrade for the people working at it
I.E Supergiant
has a way better package for VAs then SAG lol
languid meadow
after seeing the AI "voice acting" in bo6 the whole situation feels like ass
arctic talon
after seeing the AI "voice acting" in bo6 the whole situation feels like ass
Oh its a total shitshow
I don't blame the SAG VAs for wanting protection from AI voice acting
but SAG in itself has a pretty fucked up contract
so I don't really blame companies that don't exploit their VAs to just say no to SAG
because they don't want the shitshow of locking themselves out of literally every foreign VA and any VA not in SAG
queen laurel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085667218584506599/1407403730290212884/S...
wait wolf i just realized what would be the worker of the imperial guard faction because their worker used to be an enginseer
now that admech is their own faction
queen laurel
i like the third
storm jungle
still miffed that the recon armour in the bond is blue
storm jungle
languid meadow
IT'S SO FAR DOWN
storm jungle
CLEAN YOUR LIST
languid meadow
no
summer mural
jesus christ
I was watching some arbites lore video from luetin
Im not even kidding, I fell asleep for half an hour
median star
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/299959499886690305/1401679476139495434/evo2025_go1kojiko1.gif
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/clover-undertale-undertale-yellow-gif-1094674922160729798...
don't worry its a bit he does everytime the dude on the left is his opponent lol
summer mural
then I just woke up in a blur because I could hear about arbitrators in my ears
arctic talon
its such a funny bit tbh
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-cat-cat-my-honest-reaction-cat-with-th...
where did you find this armadillo cat it looks like it hates existing
vagrant fox
the nefarious anglerfish
summer mural
because youd think theyd be like, incredibly experienced over the course of hanging out there, but they might be super incompetent because ...well, look at necromunda
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
they did care about the civil war shit
and supressed that
pretty fast alongside loyalist forces
storm jungle
You need to remember literally ALL the chaos that followed the narrative of almost all these rulebooks + its narrative
arctic talon
their one point of incompetence
storm jungle
has in no way affected the planetary tithes
and like
take place ove rthe course of a few weeks/months
arctic talon
for Necromunda? none they're background characters
summer mural
any arbites story
arctic talon
for 40k, idk the Shira Calpurnia stuff ig
summer mural
ah the omnibus
storm jungle
yeah aka a book series from like almost 25 years ago lol
im sure we'll get some more content for them at some point but like theres kinda zero demand for it rn, maybe all the push for them recently will warrant one
arctic talon
yes they do
summer mural
when FS
arctic talon
I love using it in killteam
summer mural
when
arctic talon
for "non" lethal arrests
summer mural
also is the nuncio aquila actually what it is in dt, its a big speakerphone that spouts random legal gibberish?
celest dome
Yes
summer mural
they walk around with it with a recording of sylvester stallone going " I AM. THE LAW!" ??
celest dome
Not recording usually, but rather have an Arbites P-something, Proctor maybe, shout i a mike
mick
something
arctic talon
also is the nuncio aquila actually what it is in dt, its a big speakerphone that...
Its a giant speaker/mic/vox
usually they can scream stuff through it on the field
lol
summer mural
also, since imperium is so..faith based, I imagine the Lex has a bunch of stuff where the basis of laws is religious law for legal doctrine
so the arbites are probably like...decently religious
celest dome
summer mural
yeah ive seen that
celest dome
also, since imperium is so..faith based, I imagine the Lex has a bunch of stuff ...
Technically no
arctic talon
also, since imperium is so..faith based, I imagine the Lex has a bunch of stuff ...
not really regarding the law
the law upholds the ecclisarchy
celest dome
There are religious Arbites iirc
summer mural
i can just imagine that guy walking through a hab block holding that thing like a pet balloon
summer mural
I think they adapted the judge dredd thing quite suitably into 40k , not that its particularly difficult with the dystopia, authoritarianism, advanced weapons that are simple in concept, mega hive cities and single minded stubborness
i wonder if they ever get deployed to like
trench warfare
like vraks or something
out of desperation
summer mural
yeah they have their baby fortress in the middle of the city
id like to see a squad of khorne marines beating up arbitrators animated
itd be so sick
itd also be nice to see a story with an arbitrator that falls to chaos
and is terrorizing part of a city or something
raven stone
The only thing I find odd is how Imperium decides Arbites gets better armour than run of the mill Guard.
But beyond that, yes, they fit perfectly for the setting.
arctic talon
The only thing I find odd is how Imperium decides Arbites gets better armour tha...
They’re schola graduates
And they’re Feds
It makes sense they’d give them better gear as there’s less of them, they’ve trained for longer and they’re used as a hammer by the administratum to an extent
arctic talon
But it is funny that yeah the space Feds have better armor than basic soldiers
raven stone
And those probably get flack
celest dome
Arbites are in lesser numbers than the IG
crystal forum
makes sense to me. arbites are more elite than guardsmen
a closer comparison would be scions and arbites
crystal forum
british schooling
rocky gale
Dawn of War 4 on Gamescom rn
queen laurel
hell yeah
languid meadow
rocky gale
rocky gale
Coming next year 2026
queen laurel
it's like an updated UI of the old dawn of war
queen laurel
Coming next year 2026
wait the four factions is necrons, admech marines orks?
what a weird line up
I knew we saw the leaks but
vagrant fox
languid meadow
we'll prob get chaos in the end
queen laurel
interesting
languid meadow
no way they have DoW without chaos
rocky gale
Two Imperials and two Xenos, no Chaos, no Eldar. Does seem a tad odd
queen laurel
Two Imperials and two Xenos, no Chaos, no Eldar. Does seem a tad odd
Eldar are like members of the dawn of war trifecta
Well quad feccta more like
Chaos marines orcs and eldar
rocky gale
Yea
misty vector
prob just showing the polished stuff
queen laurel
@arctic talon From what I saw I'm liking it
the new UI is just straight up the old UI but modernized
queen laurel
we'll prob get chaos in the end
Holy **** I just realized
languid meadow
yeah
I soyed looking at him
also the Fallout show S2 trailer is so fucking gooooooooood
spare osprey
Holy **** I just realized
bro DIED to a chronomancer
spare osprey
also the Fallout show S2 trailer is so fucking gooooooooood
Legion, NCR, vegas flashbacks, bro during the war, NOVAC
languid meadow
We're so back
spare osprey
hell yeah from me man
queen laurel
I soyed looking at him
also i recognize that horns and cybernetics anywhere
spare osprey
also i recognize that horns and cybernetics anywhere
admech is still such a strange choice
cool, but strange
queen laurel
admech is still such a strange choice
In the 1st place they announced the four playable factions as admech, necrons, orks and marines
which is a very strange choice of armies
spare osprey
yeah, DoW 3 was marines, orks and eldar
i kinda want chaos
which ofc it'll be DLC
queen laurel
yeah, DoW 3 was marines, orks and eldar
And the fourth which is chaos
arctic talon
Chaos wasn’t playable
queen laurel
which make up the dawn of war quad fecta
arctic talon
Or a real faction tbh
queen laurel
yeah they just weren't in 3 lol
yeah only three of the original four were playable
in 3
but i'm surprised they only took two of the original dawn of war factions
spare osprey
i think necrons is solid
wintry scarab
How we feeling about the new dawn of war?
queen laurel
How we feeling about the new dawn of war?
well look at the ork UI side by side and guess how i feel
spare osprey
hyped but not pre order hyped
wintry scarab
Im sort of dissapointed with the trailer. I know it was going for that classic sort of feel, but it felt a bit lame imo.
languid meadow
i think necrons is solid
I'm so happy that we're finally get newcrons in a game again
spare osprey
i played like iron harvest once but i gotta watch some more gameplay to know how this bad boy is gonna play
storm jungle
Im sort of dissapointed with the trailer. I know it was going for that classic s...
the gameplay reminds me still too much of DOW3
storm jungle
I dont know what it is
arctic talon
Its the vfx
queen laurel
the gameplay reminds me still too much of DOW3
visual effects
spare osprey
I'm so happy that we're finally get newcrons in a game again
i was actually really excited to see the doomstalker moving
arctic talon
they use the same plasma vfx
lol
and bolter vfx
a lot of reused DoW 3 assets in this trailer for weapon vfx/explosions ect.
which means they're either early in development
or they're just reusing those assets
queen laurel
a lot of reused DoW 3 assets in this trailer for weapon vfx/explosions ect.
probably also for budget
i just hope the optimization is good
god i will do anything i will even sacrifice elitewolfs army to you
please let this be good
wintry scarab
Was there some sort of event on or did they just drop this out of the blue?
spare osprey
Was there some sort of event on or did they just drop this out of the blue?
yeah big game event
storm jungle
so we knew it was coming
wintry scarab
ah
languid meadow
queen laurel
Was there some sort of event on or did they just drop this out of the blue?
the biggest game event of all time game scom
languid meadow
the highlights for me were DoW, fallout, and sekiro anime
wintry scarab
Wait, how tf did i not know this was going on lol
median star
Was there some sort of event on or did they just drop this out of the blue?
mass psychic vision actually
wintry scarab
I tune in most years. Forgot about it this time i guess
languid meadow
and we all got shit to do
talking in lore chat
languid meadow
Thank god
spare osprey
also i recognize that horns and cybernetics anywhere
ya boy
storm jungle
ay knights
very likely carrying over the knight tech/builds from DOW3, it was like one of the only good parts of the game
wintry scarab
Also, when i saw this first, i was at the gym and i gasped so loud that the person next to me awkwardly glanced at me. I happy. But also helldivers is becoming fortnite and i dont know how i feel about it.
arctic talon
ay knights
KNIGHTS OF THE IRON COG
storm jungle
I really dont think Killzone/ODST look out of place in the helldivers universe.
misty vector
eh only two crossovers so far, both fit the generic soldier theme
arctic talon
They don’t look out of place
spare osprey
Also, when i saw this first, i was at the gym and i gasped so loud that the pers...
it's a collab with another game with almost the exact same vibe
lol
languid meadow
considering ODSTs directly inspired Helldivers
rocky gale
languid meadow
it would be insane to not have them
arctic talon
Unless it’s built for crossovers
wintry scarab
I just dont like how eveything these days has to me a multiverse thing. Everything has to collab with something and imo it sort of takes away from a world when you do that.
arctic talon
In which that case idgaf
storm jungle
I just dont like how eveything these days has to me a multiverse thing. Everythi...
its not a multiverse 😩
also helldivers is goofy af
arctic talon
I just dont like how eveything these days has to me a multiverse thing. Everythi...
It’s not multiverse
spare osprey
we know where they cross the line, and im pretty chill with it (till the money runs out)
arctic talon
That’s pretty funny ngl
rocky gale
That was posted by the devs themselves
storm jungle
SNOOP DOGG AT THE END
queen laurel
But good to have his old look back
languid meadow
I want snoop dogg.....
spare osprey
That was posted by the devs themselves
yep, good ol CCO
storm jungle
and ill laugh at all the misery
arctic talon
years from now, we WILL reach that point
Eventually when they need to make money prolly
languid meadow
yeah I don't really care what they do ngl
languid meadow
as long as MY favourite stuff gets in ngl
rocky gale
Yea like if they add something I want I'll get it, if it's something I don't want I won't get it
arctic talon
lol
rocky gale
It's not hard
wintry scarab
Ikd. I prefer when something is vaguly inspired by something. I start to like it less when its the actual thing. Cough, cough. Looking at destiny 2.
arctic talon
Arcsys making Lucy complicated on purpose to make cyberpunk players want to kill themselves
spare osprey
i ain't even a killzone fan but the drip was hard
storm jungle
i ain't even a killzone fan but the drip was hard
Killzone is king
yall young'ins had no idea
wintry scarab
Killzone is king
was*
languid meadow
spare osprey
yall young'ins had no idea
xbox kid sorry
wintry scarab
"cope"
>literally has a warbond released on it
cope. I win
storm jungle
xbox kid sorry
Thats a death sentence
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/killzone-helghast-gif-13219563782466326331
That was me buying the killzone warbond after everyone was complaining about the pricing.
My life is to helghan first, slopdivers second
🫡
spare osprey
Thats a death sentence
wintry scarab
https://tenor.com/view/red-vs-blue-rooster-teeth-not-my-fault-aboose-gif-2203477...
I was rewatching RvB recently and that shits funny af. Insane how terrible the more recent stuff is lol. imo at least
Also roosterteeth dead lol
queen laurel
@storm jungle they are really going back to the good place
rocky gale
I'm firmly of the belief that the show should have ended with Church's speech about the Hero never knowing if their sacrifice was worth it.
queen laurel
Kronus
spare osprey
if it's like the older games it's the same missions from different perspectives
queen laurel
4 campaign ? That's mad
The planet in dark crusade too
languid meadow
good DC is great
queen laurel
if it's like the older games it's the same missions from different perspectives
it is in dark crusade map so i'm guessing they might be including a choose your own faction option I guess
If they are going back to that which at that point they have finalised choosing your favorite action
tough haven
<@166943308231344128> they are really going back to the good place
Bro they better make it actually good, unlike 2 and 3
queen laurel
Bro they better make it actually good, unlike 2 and 3
oh don't you link 2 and 3 together
queen laurel
dawn of war 2 was good for what it was
tough haven
2 wasn’t bad, just a different type of game
queen laurel
Like yes it's not the traditional RTS but it's actually playable and you can have fun with it
3?
not so much
tough haven
They really should add a multiplayer mode to 4 like the Dawn of war soulstorm campaign
misty vector
what was different about 3 that people didnt like?
arctic talon
what was different about 3 that people didnt like?
It plays more like a MOBA, there’s a bunch of weird shit going on
misty vector
ahh weird
hallow plover
They really should add a multiplayer mode to 4 like the Dawn of war soulstorm ca...
Seems like there is multiplayer for campaign
tough haven
Where you trade territories over time
tough haven
I want like pvp
opaque coyote
"How to be a femboy (better than alpha??)"
hallow plover
Unless they unlock one after the other 🙂
queen laurel
Unless they unlock one after the other 🙂
welp
hallow plover
queen laurel
Going back to our crusade style it seems
tough haven
I want like pvp
I saw the soulstorm campaign which was really boring against ai and thought “this would be kickass vs players”
opaque coyote
queen laurel
Of all the random things you can find in the world how did someone like you find a godzilla meme
opaque coyote
I like Godzilla
queen laurel
I like Godzilla
Valid then
tough haven
Incomprehensible scrawlings of madmen
misty vector
Astrology for men
queen laurel
median star
<@166943308231344128> they are really going back to the good place
did it say when its coming out or just soon™
opaque coyote
Incomprehensible scrawlings of madmen
The Chaos Cultist scribbling down runes:
spare osprey
queen laurel
insane lineup
spare osprey
genuinely tho i will burn GW down if the zoats get one more mini
queen laurel
genuinely tho i will burn GW down if the zoats get one more mini
bro is a professional racist of a fictional race
median star
what the fuck is a zoat
queen laurel
what the fuck is a zoat
tough haven
And like rebelled or whatever
queen laurel
median star
the grabber slasher is definitely one of the names of all time
i wonder what they do
languid meadow
hugs
opaque coyote
i wonder what they do
I have no idea
But I feel like they're related to the Screamer-Killers...
rocky gale
Admech will have Knights
queen laurel
Admech will have Knights
So that's their super requisition unit?
Hmm i don't mind that sounds fun
arctic talon
Knight castellan has aura
opaque coyote
Top to bottom
- Wheatley
- Jerma
- Wheatley
- Wheatley
- Jerma
- Jerma
- Jerma
- Wheatley
- Jerma
- Jerma
- Wheatley
- Jerma
queen laurel
Knight castellan has aura
That's the newest one with the literal ship level shields right
tough haven
Top to bottom
1) Wheatley
2) Jerma
3) Wheatley
4) Wheatley
5) Jerma
6) Jerma
7)...
I think you are right
bonus points if you can find the source for each one
arctic talon
That's the newest one with the literal ship level shields right
No
It’s just the one with a bunch of guns and is big
It’s not a questoris
queen laurel
It’s just the one with a bunch of guns and is big
Oh the one with the giant a** harpoon gun
queen laurel
That’s the other Dominus
Is it the other one with giant flame flowers
queen laurel
he one with a giant flamethrower has the harpoon
God i am stupid but what do you think the super units of the orcs is
Stompa?
arctic talon
Stompa imo
queen laurel
Stompa imo
Yeah a gorkanaut is too small to match a castellan and a squiggoth is just well you're going to need a really big one, and don't even get me started on the battle wagon that thing is not going to last two seconds
arctic talon
Well gorknaut can match a castellan
I just think a small stompa would be cooler
lol
queen laurel
Well gorknaut can match a castellan
Okay so it's either nauts or stompa
Or if they really want to throw a curve ball an orkeosaurus
opaque coyote
On an extremely unrelated note.
I FUCKING LOVE COSTCO FOOD COURT CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES!!!
THEY TASTE SO GOOD!!!
DELICIOUS
TRULY THIS PROVES THAT WE HAVEN'T FALLEN AS A COLLECTIVE AND THAT THERE ARE THINGS WORTH SAVING
GOD HASN'T ABANDONED US YET
dapper gyro
Me still getting 1.50 ca$ at Costco.
barren prawn
anyone know the name of the mournignstar track?
arctic talon
Mourning star
barren prawn
no the new one
barren prawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCsq3lQkquw
im pretty sure this guy used it in the intro and i wanna yell at him for not linking fatshark
path of trust
someone found it for me
languid meadow
oh man the the embed thing is down
nocturne crest
Admech will have Knights
I wonder if you change the weapons the knight uses like you could with units in the original dawn of war.
rocky gale
Hopefully, upgrading units was a fun part of DoW
I imagine that to cover all the Space Marine stuff they'll have Intercessors, then you can upgrade the squad to Hellblasters, infernus etc
languid meadow
God I fucking LOVE how the legion looks in live action even if it's in a diminished state
also Ceaser is 100% dead so the guy wearing the laurel is a new leader which is cool
crystal forum
they actually put more effort into legion outfits than the game did
arctic talon
Bigger budget!!!!
rocky gale
Maybe we'll see the Mojave chapter of the BoS and they'll have a bunch of energy weapons
rocky gale
I dunno if he is alive in the present timeline, looked like we only saw him in flashbacks
rocky gale
We did see Victor though
rocky gale
Possibly, Victor gets disabled ingame if you kill House
arctic talon
imo it doesn't seem like a legion ending
Since the Strip seems active
I wonder if the NCR will show up considering the Legion is around
crystal forum
you guys are assuming the show will follow the game's logic despite california being super different to the west coast timeline
arctic talon
Tbf we don't even know what part of California we're in for large chunks of it
aside from shady sands
which they moved to the boneyard
but whatever
languid meadow
I think the shady sands being in the boneyard was an oopsie
arctic talon
also fallout 2 did move Shady sands as well
maybe they moved the damn city again lol
anyways imo the NCR is still intact in some manner, just likely reduced in size after their capitol got fucking nuked lol
languid meadow
Considering the sign hints that SS wasn't the capitol before it was nuked I'm inclined to agree that the NCR is just weakened In the area
vagrant fox
Maybe I should watch the Fallouts, I might just consider doing it
languid meadow
Pretty good
rocky gale
Yea, they talk about an event referred to as the "Fall of Shady Sands" which takes place before it got Nuked
sacred bluff
God I fucking LOVE how the legion looks in live action even if it's in a diminis...
what is this
rocky gale
Fallout Season 2
sacred bluff
rocky gale
and Todd has said that despite the Nuking of Shady Sands he doesn't think the NCR is gone, it just lost it's presence in the Boneyards
languid meadow
Makes sense since it reached from the Mojave to Oregon no?
rocky gale
Ye it's pretty big
languid meadow
Stand strong Shi
crystal forum
and Todd has said that despite the Nuking of Shady Sands he doesn't think the NC...
i dont trust that fucker with fallout lore
he just wants the NCR to be some fragmented faction like the rest of bethesda's fallout contributions
rocky gale
That wasn't his idea
dapper gyro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCsq3lQkquw
im pretty sure this guy used it in t...
It is the OST Vol.1
crystal forum
NCR was a functional state during fallout new vegas
if it's not present in the show that way then it got bethesda'd into being a bunch of dumb tribals
rocky gale
It was originally Chris Avellone's idea from when they were working on Van Buren
crystal forum
not the entire NCR
im talking specifically about the people like you who say it wasn't depicted so it probably still exists as it was
it definitely isn't anymore. that's not how modern fallout wants it
rocky gale
"I did advocate nuking NCR - not to destroy them 100%, but because the idea of a post-apocalyptic world being hit by another apocalypse sounded interesting - and struggling bands of NCR troops-turned-raiders/ronin once the military fell apart felt like a nice touch in the game world. That, and I was getting worried that the Fallout world was starting to get too civilized, and NCR, especially, felt bloated and needed to be shook up a bit." Here's the full quote from Chris Avellone
So it's a plot point they had for Van Buren that they didn't reuse for New Vegas
But then reused for the TV series
crystal forum
what is your point other than the idea existing beforehand
it's still shit
im glad fallout new vegas didnt follow it
rocky gale
You're saying it's Bethesda, when it was a plot point that was thought up by Black Isle/Obsidian
crystal forum
the execution is bethesda regardless
the idea of depicting a severely flawed yet functional state was a much better idea as depicted in new vegas
writers who thought that the setting had too much civilization going on for a proper story to be written are just bad at their jobs
bethesda continues the trend of keeping everybody groveling in the dirt for a hope at survival because it's easy to write about
rocky gale
You're giving some strong old man yells at cloud energy rn
crystal forum
it's formulaic, it's trash
rise things up then tear them down to repeat the process ad nauseum
opaque coyote
the strip being active isn't reliant on him being alive huh
I feel like Mr. House would be the type to have a back up honestly
Like "In case if I die, a copy of me will do things in my stead."
rocky gale
The plot point the show writers adapted (Not Bethesda writers) came from Obsidian (Also not Bethesda writhers). While Bethesda themselves have said the NCR isn't destroyed. Yet here you are yelling at Bethesda for destroying the NCR because Bethesda has bad writers.
opaque coyote
Like "In case if I die, a copy of me will do things in my stead."
It's also a
Decent way to make the ending somewhat ambiguous
languid meadow
opaque coyote
Like the Courier did kill Mr. House
The actual Mr. House
He just has a backup copy
I mean Mr. New Vegas is supposedly an AI.
...
Actually actually
Imagine if Mr. New Vegas was the one controlling the strip
Oooo
crystal forum
The plot point the show writers adapted (Not Bethesda writers) came from Obsidia...
todd howard is literally an executive producer of the show what are you talking about
rocky gale
So Writers working for Amazon, adapted a story from Van Buren writen by Black Isle/Obsidian and you blame Bethesda
opaque coyote
So Writers working for Amazon, adapted a story from Van Buren writen by Black Is...
To be fair Bethesda does have partial creative control and like Jay said, Todd Howard is an executive producer
rocky gale
Yes and Todd Howard has also said the NCR isn't destroyed
crystal forum
are you genuinely saying that because the adaptation is based on the west coast then it's fallout 1, 2 and new vegas's writers who affect the show's writing?
opaque coyote
Yes and Todd Howard has also said the NCR isn't destroyed
I think he meant as an entity. But their power is definitely severely diminished
Your main capital city being nuked does that
Anyways I'm gonna jump out of this convo
rocky gale
are you genuinely saying that because the adaptation is based on the west coast ...
Do you think the show is being written by Bethesda writers?
opaque coyote
It's time to nap like a Necron
💤
Wake me up when the Mechanicus tries stealing my toaster collection
crystal forum
Do you think the show is being written by Bethesda writers?
No it isn't. Bethesda writers are just being consulted and being given the primary voice
especially, TODD HOWARD
and anyways, i dont care who's writing the show. it still has the problems i described
even if it was obsidian writers
rocky gale
You didn't describe any problems, you just yelled at clouds
crystal forum
bethesda is just uniquely dog shit at this
crystal forum
You didn't describe any problems, you just yelled at clouds
rocky gale
You're just saying "Bad writers, can't write story" you're not making any valid points
crystal forum
you're not even reading
rocky gale
Then what's you're point?
Bethesda killed the NCR?
Because I've pointed out, the decision to do that was not made by Bethesda, it was made by the Showrunners, inspired by a previously written but unused storyline that wasn't written by Bethesda. While Bethesda themselves are openly saying they haven't killed the NCR, just diminished it's control in the region season 1 takes place.
And "Oh but Todd's an executive producer" the show has 9 Executive Producers, One of them works for Bethesda
crystal forum
NCR is dead, it might as well be since it gets completely sidelines for the sake of the plot. i dont care what some guy says behind the scenes. my point is the show decided to completely avoid the topic because the showrunners wanted a fallout show and fallout doesn't have actual worldbuilding and a living breathing ecosystem of factions in the east coast
they killed the NCR
rocky gale
And one of the things Todd has publicly said made him reserved about making a TV show is that ultimately the director/Showrunner has the overruling say on the matter.
crystal forum
if you say brotherhood of steel i will kill something
rocky gale
I'm done with this conversation because you're just being a dumbass
crystal forum
you're the one who keeps returning to the bethesda thing???
way to focus on the minor points
genuinely feel like losing brain cells here
rocky gale
What do you mean minor point, that's the entire discusion?
You're blaming Bethesda for doing something
and I'm telling you it's not Bethesda
and you keep saying "But it's Bethesda"
Are you drunk?
crystal forum
just shifting the goal posts
because you cant argue about the setting not being shit
rocky gale
This conversation
You "Bethesda did this thing"
Me "No it wasn't Bethesda"
You "No they did"
Me "Here's all the evidence they didn't"
You "But Bethesda did it"
Me "Explains Bethesda didn't do it again"
You "Why do you keep bringing up Bethesda?"
I've never been argueing whether the setting is shit or not
crystal forum
THEN WHY ARE YOU ARGUING
rocky gale
Because you were blaming something on Bethesda and I was pointing out it wasn't Bethesda's decision
That's it
and you keep saying "But it was"
Even though it wasn't
crystal forum
another lore channel nitpicking argument ended. the day is saved
languid meadow
Area 51
tough haven
NCR is dead, it might as well be since it gets completely sidelines for the sake...
It doesn’t?
crystal forum
it does
spare osprey
they killed the NCR
Aren’t there NCR in the new season
crisp heath
I just want them to put caesers legion In the new season 
even tho I'm assuming he's been defeated
arctic talon
I just want them to put caesers legion In the new season <:Sitgryn:1016269420638...
Boy you should watch the trailer
opaque coyote
Pog
Also the duality of man
Finally
More Caesars Legion
The costumes look great btw
jade holly
More Caesars Legion
I don’t even think Caesar is the guy there
jade holly
I wonder which ending of New Vegas they’ll say was canon for the show
opaque coyote
It’s some breakaway sucessor group likely
To be honest, except the legion ending, Caesar is fucking dead.
arctic talon
I wonder which ending of New Vegas they’ll say was canon for the show
Prolly a mix
opaque coyote
Either due to you or the brain tumor in his head
jade holly
Victor was a wonderful surprise
opaque coyote
Since Victor is alive
Genuinely felt bad for killing him. He was the guy that saved me
jade holly
Imagine Yes Man is still there
opaque coyote
So that means House is alive
I have a theory that it could be a copy of Mr. House.
Honestly
He seems like the type of guy to do that
opaque coyote
We actually better see a reference to Benny
Nah bro is fucking dead.
jade holly
The guy in the checkered suit who shoots ya at the start?
opaque coyote
Like that is guaranteed
jade holly
Nah bro is fucking dead.
Exactly, like you see his corpse somewhere
opaque coyote
No matter what ending, you basically kill him
jade holly
hopefully on a cross
opaque coyote
Exactly, like you see his corpse somewhere
Honestly I do hope there's a reference to him though. His VA is great
Perfectly captures that sleazy charm
"Ring a ding ding baby!"
crisp heath
That was Mr house we saw right guys?
opaque coyote
"Ring a ding ding baby!"
My favorite part is his complete and utter confusion when you solicit him for sex.
💀
jade holly
My favorite part is his complete and utter confusion when you solicit him for se...
We need to see fistbot (was that its name?)
gaunt lily
Like that is guaranteed
people have escorted him out of ceasars camp tbf, he just up and vanishes after that but supposedly it means he could live 
opaque coyote
We need to see fistbot (was that its name?)
Fisto
jade holly
Fisto needs to make a cameo appearance
opaque coyote
people have escorted him out of ceasars camp tbf, he just up and vanishes after ...
There is cut content of him trying to kill you again
Because
...
He's a dumbass
gaunt lily
cut content means i didnt hear no bell
opaque coyote
Honestly I like to think that he just took it as a sign to get the fuck out and never come back
Like if the guy I shot set me free
opaque coyote
I would fucking go to another state
jade holly
opaque coyote
Live a quiet life
opaque coyote
I’m finally near the end of Dressrosa
Ah
How many repeated frames of animation have you seen
gaunt lily
i mean if we didnt kill him the legion or house would
jade holly
How many repeated frames of animation have you seen
Ngl, didn’t see any prob cause I wasn’t looking
gaunt lily
basically a question of how quick he could run into the NCR lol
jade holly
I mean I did see a small few actually
opaque coyote
Ngl, didn’t see any prob cause I wasn’t looking
Dressrosa is a good story.
But the anime extends it so much that it makes it boring
jade holly
Mainly the same rubble rising everytime Pica took a step
opaque coyote
Like I didn't need to watch a camera pan up Donflamingo's body over and over again
jade holly
Dressrosa is a good story.
But the anime extends it so much that it makes it bo...
I liked the colosseum subplot
And this arc gave me Bartolomeo and Fujitora
opaque coyote
I liked the colosseum subplot
Yeah that shit was great.
I think it's the first time Oda ever did a tournament arc.
Genuinely fun
Dressrosa as a story is definitely in the top 5
opaque coyote
I love characters who have gravity powers
Fujitora chooses fucking meteors
jade holly
Fujitora be like
Lemme test your strength
Drops two fucking meteors on them
opaque coyote
The anime does have a neat piece of filler where it introduces Fujitora in a casino
Which is actually pretty cool
jade holly
I like how compared to other admirals he usually sits still in a fight and controls the battlefield
opaque coyote
It perfectly introduces Fujitora, his character, etc.
opaque coyote
I like how compared to other admirals he usually sits still in a fight and contr...
Also he blinded himself due to how shit the world is
Like he saw the worst of humanity and decided
"Yeah I don't wanna see that shit anymore"
jade holly
Damn bro spoilers (I literally just heard him say his scars were self inflicted)
opaque coyote
Damn bro spoilers (I literally just heard him say his scars were self inflicted)
Lucky
But yeah I find it a little funny
opaque coyote
Bartolomeo though?
Also the reason why he's called an cannibal isn't actually due to him being a cannibal
It's a mistranslation
It's basically a Japanese term of somebody being
So fucking annoying
That you would rather eat yourself than listen to him
So if it was a proper translation it'd be like
"Bartolomeo the Asshole"
jade holly
So fucking annoying
Yeah that sounds about right lmao
opaque coyote
A fanboy character who’s actually useful
One Piece does a lot of things with tropes
Like the classic nose bleed actually being an important plot point
jade holly
That was just weird
opaque coyote
I did laugh at that because like
Having somebody be in critical condition because they saw a woman
Is funny
opaque coyote
"HOLY SHIT THE FIRST FEMALE IN FOUR YEARS"
literally fucking dies
jade holly
It gave me one of my favorite kmages
Idk if I can send it here or not
I wouldn’t call it anything bad but ya never know
jade holly
What is it
Don Chin Jao staring at Lao G’s ass
jade holly
I’ll dm it
opaque coyote
Also did you see Law's entire backstory
jade holly
Yeah
opaque coyote
...
jade holly
Dude i’m at 744
opaque coyote
All I can say is. I genuinely didn't expect it to be that fucked up.
jade holly
Be weird if I didn’t see it
opaque coyote
Like genuinely I did NOT expect it
I was actually just shocked the entire time because Oda just woke up and decided
"Yeah I'm gonna depict a genocide"
"Gonna have children literally fucking put against the wall and shot"
jade holly
oda be like
Who do I want to show how badly they suffered today?
opaque coyote
Like I didn't expect it because I don't think any backstory before Law's was that fucking tragic
I thought I knew what to expect
I didn't
And Oda somehow made it work
And didn't make it feel like
"And then he was orphaned and all of the orphans died because he had orphanitis"
tough haven
the magpies are coming back
The mountain can be reclaimed
opaque coyote
Where are the SMGs in warhammer?
Tbf probably wouldn't be practical
But Warhammer isn't about practical
Still though mostly in the hands of gangers
They kinda don't exist
I assume because you need higher firepower in 40k
And SMGs are known for being mostly lower powered guns
dusky beacon
I mean you can still have some pretty nasty power in an SMG, like 10mm
opaque coyote
And when a laser gun that can rip a person's limb off in a single shot is considered a flashlight
An SMG probably isn't really that important
dusky beacon
I guess im also suprised I've never seen an SMG sized lasgun
opaque coyote
I mean you can still have some pretty nasty power in an SMG, like 10mm
Also the auto pistol in darktide counts as an smg
So
There
Does anybody actually use that thing btw?
I'm genuinely curious
Like I haven't seen a single person use it beyond like
Single digit leveled characters
crisp heath
I see psykers use it every now and then