40k-lore-chat

[median star]

yea

[rocky gale]

No clue, Salamanders got theirs recently, so I assume they're going to spread them out so maybe in the next few weeks or months

[median star]

also what does warlord mean btw

[rocky gale]

Warlord is the leader of your army

You need to pick one

[outer wave]

A lord of war, duhhh

[rocky gale]

He's your big boss

So probably Iron Father

[median star]

so i assume you can have multiple named characters but only one can be warlord is their any sort of debuff to losing the warlord

[rocky gale]

Some characters will have special rules like if they're in your army the have to be your Warlord, but yea so long as they don't both have that rule you can have multiple named characters

Only one Warlord

There are some stratagems and abilities that relate to your Warlord

[queen laurel]

is that a power Kanabo

[dapper gyro]

@storm jungle what's wrong with firefox?

[rocky gale]

Assassinate could come up where you or your opponent can get VP's for killing your Warlord etc

There's a couple of things about it

[median star]

also when i was forming the list it had a ton of other units listed under (legends) i think i assume thats just older stuff thats getting phased out and or harder to actually get a set for or something else

[median star]

im wondering how he uses it w one hand as non of his robot arms have grippers

[storm jungle]

Nothing its just been awhile since i used it

also I THINK its fixed now

[queen laurel]

it's a terminator

I'm pretty sure they can one hand Thunder hammers no problem

[rocky gale]

Legends is sometimes older units, it's sometimes special units that get supported for a short while rather than permenantly. But yea they're things that are fine for you to use for casual play and have rules to do so, but you can't use them in official GW tournaments

[median star]

that also partially because you can actually hold a hammer closer towards the head to balance out the weight but i digress

[rocky gale]

and yea things with Legends rules typically get phased out after an edition or two

[median star]

is their a way to check which are still supported or is just a case by case checkup

[rocky gale]

In what way?

Like check on the GW store or on New Recruit or Wahapedia?

[median star]

like if the rules are still in line w current edition for that specific model

[rocky gale]

NR and Waha typically clearly mark if something is legends and will have options to hide Legends content from your searches if you don't want to see them, but they won't be clearly marked on the GW store

[median star]

also its pretty close ish to 11th edition isnt it

[rocky gale]

Like all these marked with the L are Legends

[rocky gale]

Closeish

Maybe a year

Half a year

[median star]

would it be wiser to wait till then to start buying models just incase they decide to murder some models or something

[rocky gale]

They aim for a 3 year per Edition window and 10th launched in June 2023, so 11th is predicted to be around June 2026

[rocky gale]

Depends what you're buying, a lot of the newer Space Marine stuff is probably safe, the only things from the list you posted I'd can see going is the Termie Ancient

But I can see Centurions either going or being updated, so wouldn't recommend buying them

Anything Firstborn is risky

[median star]

is the ballistus dread the only one upto date rn

[rocky gale]

Ballistus, Redemptor and Brutalis are all fairly recent Primaris Dreads that I don't see going or being replaced anytime soon

[median star]

i mightve been blind but i dont think i saw the redemptor on the site i was using do you think its better or worse then ballistus

[rocky gale]

They fill different tasks, Redemptor is great for clearing infantry either hordes with the Heavy onslaught or heavy infantry with the macro plasma, but it's more expensive (Point cost). while the Ballistus is better at sniping at enemy vehicles

[median star]

also i havent looked yet but i assume its prob on the site you sent but from what little i could gleam of random reddit post the ironstorm spearhead is unique to the iron hands is that correct and also isnt complete ass? i couldnt find any solid info on rlly any the detatchments

[rocky gale]

and Brutalis is your melee variant, it's alright at clearing both infantry and vehicles but is limited to much shroter range at doing it

It's an Iron Hands themed detachment but it's not limited to any Chapter

All of these Detachments can be picked by any Space Marine army, there are others that are limited to only certain Chapters but these are universal

[median star]

the other one i was looking at was anvil but from what i saw a lot of people said it can be good but very stuational

[rocky gale]

Anvil is tough, personally I like it and think it can be very good and you can have some nice synergies with it but it's main buffs centre around your units standing still rather than moving around, so it can be tough to gain those advantages while also trying to take objectives.

So it's good for holding objectives, not great for taking them

[median star]

also on the topic of transports theyre basically just a point tax to be able to get your units in range or towards objectives faster right or do they do anything other then just ferrying units

[arctic talon]

They can shoot, move block, screen objectives

Some transports are good at killing

[rocky gale]

Depends on the transport

[arctic talon]

Yeah

That as well

[rocky gale]

Like Drukhari transports will deploy a squad on you and then blow you up with a Dark Lance

[median star]

do astartes have any that are also offensive viable or just giant battle busses

[rocky gale]

Or if we're talking Space Marines like a Repulsor Executioner that things basically a full blown tank with transport capacity

[arctic talon]

Land raider, repulsor, repulsor executioner

[median star]

repulsor executioner ill mark that down

[arctic talon]

Repulsor executioner is more tank then transport as mentioned by larmoth

[rocky gale]

It's kinda overkill tbh

But nice

[arctic talon]

Land raider and normal repulsor are like

Transport that can murder good

[rocky gale]

Yea Repulsor is the better transport

[arctic talon]

Land raider Crusader is just bad

So don’t run that one

I cannot think of a point in history where it’s ever been good

Besides looking cool

[median star]

whats the point cost average on transports usually

[arctic talon]

Varies wildly

Due to the existence of some outliers lol

[rocky gale]

Repulsor is still heavily armed and lets you stick 14 Space Marines in it (Less if they're in heavier armour) while the Repulsor Executioner goes overboard with more guns and less transport capacity, 7 instead of 14

[arctic talon]

The Manta is

2100 points

The storm bird and thunderhawk are like

900 and 1k

So they heavily skew that number lmao

[median star]

2100

[rocky gale]

Dedicated Transports like the Rhino and the Impulsor are typically cheaper, like around 80 points

But they will have less firepower

[median star]

i thought i saw a specific raven guard themed one or something aswell corvus something something

[rocky gale]

Corvus Blackstar?

That's Deathwatch

[median star]

i thought deathwatch got shot in the back of the head

[rocky gale]

Yea

But they lived

and came back stronger

[median star]

also on the site i used it also had allied as an option so its just straight up possible to run astartes w arbites and or knights and titans aswell or nah

[arctic talon]

Yes

Up to 500 points of imperial agents

And 1 questoris knight or 2 armigers

[rocky gale]

I thought it was 3 Armigers

[arctic talon]

Though marines as an army don’t need it

[arctic talon]

You’re prolly correct

[rocky gale]

It would be the GW thing to do considering they come in boxes of 2

[median star]

is that just a general rule or like tournament specific

[arctic talon]

Generic rule

[arctic talon]

It’s 25% of your army

For imperial agents

You can always homebrew stuff

[rocky gale]

But 500pts is depending on battle size, so only if you're doing a 2000pt game

[median star]

horde of arbites w one terminator upon ye

i think thats all the questions i have for now i need to sleep and think on a more put together list thanks for the answers and info

[rocky gale]

No worries

[arctic talon]

Good night

[proven needle]

Currently bottom of the meta 😂

[rocky gale]

Yea but they look cool doing it

[proven needle]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[arctic talon]

Look it’s only like a 44% win rate

That’s not that bad

[proven needle]

Oh, you're right. Last report I saw was below 40%.

[cerulean scaffold]

I saw a youtuber predict skitarii as the next class. I am new to warhammer so is there a lore explanation of how they could be added with the current rejects?

Curious to know since they look very cool

[storm jungle]

Admech contingent arrives, they want something industrial to do with the planet, maybe get its production quotas up and running again, yada yada, skitarii are here along with them

can add something like Hadron having called for assistance from Mars

[queen laurel]

or they want to take the Super rare metal apparently atoma has for themselves and therefore sent their units to help

or you know just re take the foundry plex

[cerulean scaffold]

So i’ve never heard of the admech contingent before could you explain what it is?

Oh nevermind im stupid

[queen laurel]

it's literally just a group of admech

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah that

[cerulean scaffold]

I didnt realise admech was an abbreviation or whatever you call it

[celest dome]

Contigent is a common word

[cerulean scaffold]

But anyways thanks for the awesome answers excited if it ever comes to the game

[queen laurel]

It's just a shortening of their name the Adeptus mechanicus

[celest dome]

The closest to a term for an Admech group would be an Exploratory fleed

[queen laurel]

fleed

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[cerulean scaffold]

Is mars kinda their homebase or something?

[celest dome]

Mars is their Terra

[queen laurel]

it's literally their home world

[cerulean scaffold]

Ah cool

[queen laurel]

it's basically the greatest forged world in the universe

[cerulean scaffold]

Do they have ranks like in the military and if so does hadron for example have a rank?

[storm jungle]

Yeah they do

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Mechanicus

would highly suggest reading their lexipage

it should mostly answer all your questions, if you got any others you can ask em here tho lol

[celest dome]

Hadron is a Techpriest Reclaimator iirc

[cerulean scaffold]

Thanks will do

[proven needle]

Isn't she technoarcheologist?

[rose thorn]

Is hero hammer Eldar a thing? It seems weird to sell 6 heroes at once even as a ‘oh retro ‘ thing

Who would ever need 5 warlocks??

[arctic talon]

Warlocks are played in squads often

As warlock councils

Of 2-6 nerds

[rose thorn]

OHHHHHH neat

[arctic talon]

Though rn the numbers are 2,3,4,6

[rose thorn]

Like the old nurgle unit from 3rd AOS

[arctic talon]

Because gw killed PPM

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Damn you GW let me run 5 warlocks

Okay jokes aside warlocks are kind of just, great

And back then there was a reason as well since guardian squads had a mandatory warlock rule

Every guardian squads SGT. Must be a warlock

lol

Thankfully GW realized that rule was stupid by 3e

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Lamp?

https://tenor.com/view/catlamp-catdetti-funny-cat-cat-with-lamp-cat-lick-gif-20031670

[rose thorn]

:ahdvwjbdbd

Uhg I wanna like Eldar

[queen laurel]

i didn't know black skull was in warhammer

[rose thorn]

Bruh

[arctic talon]

Old noise marines

Lmao

[queen laurel]

you know for old models these are certainly very expressive

[arctic talon]

A lot of old minis are quite expressive lol

[queen laurel]

I certainly know where they got the facial practice though

[opaque coyote]

"I'm gonna retcon a miniscule part of 40k lore"

40k fans that have never read a single book: https://youtu.be/uddSYBb9W1E?si=Hwa8WT1yYT5Q6Ba9

||I honestly just wanted an excuse to repost this intro. It is so fucking funny||

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/EddX9hnhDS4?si=Xroh-BccemcKSiM5 40K fans when you change a part of lore that apparently everyone cares about ( no one has talked about it for years )

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact.

Every time Harlan won an award for his books. He would mail one of his books to his college writing professor. This is because his professor told him that he would never amount to anything.

[queen laurel]

and how does this professor respond

[opaque coyote]

Unknown, but tbf to the professor. Harlan got expelled because he fucking hit him after the professor said that.

Harlan in general was a fucking asshole.

He also kept it up for 20 years.

[spare osprey]

question bc i've not seen a solid answer, are aspect warriors able to fall off their paths?

[storm jungle]

Fall off as in leave?

[spare osprey]

yeah

[storm jungle]

Yeah its entirely allowed.

Only Exarchs cant leave. They are lost on the Path, its why they also entirely stay in their shrine chambers/halls.

[spare osprey]

ok awesome

[rocky gale]

The List talk earlier got me thinking, unbeatable

[arctic talon]

IF torment nexus list jesus christ lol

Oh also

dataslate leaked (maybe)

might be fake

[rocky gale]

Tor and the Biologis can both join the Aggressors, giving the unit Lethal Hits, Ignore cover and Stoic Defender on the biologis gives them all a 6+ fnp

Hmm

Dataslate for what?

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085667218584506599/1407125289380610242/received_1461797574945279.jpg?ex=68a4f70c&is=68a3a58c&hm=5f8fe89f06187c5c4d7ca07546d5c14bcc24df607b5b3dd10be7053a029b85b3&=&format=webp&width=364&height=856

40k

srry

about what was expected mostly

[rocky gale]

Hmm yea

No Dark Eldar nerf so that's nice

Wait CK?

Oh Chaos Knights

Probably gonna hit Wardog spam

[arctic talon]

The Trio of Terror are all getting hit

which is probably for the best lol

Only nerfs I'm ??? on are GSC and WE tbh

but ig both of them are strong rn so

not surprising ig

[rocky gale]

I was expecting a nerf on Drukhari atleast for Reapers Wager because it's very strong rn

But it's possible they're holding off on any Drukhari nerfs until the Codex releases

Because it's rumours are saying it's going to be huge

One of my friends was in our local GW store at the weekend and they had no Drukhari in stock and was talking to the staff about it and the staff member said "Yea it's weird, we all think something big is coming"

[arctic talon]

Tbh Drukhari are 100% getting a total rewrite to their rules

Their index is a mess

[opaque coyote]

"When you get on the grind, you stay on the grind"

• Khaine before he got shattered

[opaque coyote]

It's almost like they made it painful to understa-

...

DAMN YOU VECT

[arctic talon]

well its not painful to understand

its a mess because its just bad

Wych's are a dedicated melee unit

who lost all their melee weapon options

and are stuck with awful ones

[opaque coyote]

💀

[arctic talon]

its like S3 AP0 D1 2 attacks

for context a guardsmen has a melee thats S3 AP0 D1 1 attack

[opaque coyote]

...yeah that uh

Wow

[rocky gale]

and the new Votann character Buri out melees both Lelith and Drazhar

[arctic talon]

There's a reason the index was jokingly called index dark lance

on launch

because

you could only use the fucking dark lance

that was the only viable fucking weapon in the entire codex

[opaque coyote]

Aren't Deldar weapons supposed to be only second to Necrons in terms of how advanced and damaging they are

[arctic talon]

also the army rule is a mess

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

depends

Power from Pain in its current iteration

is heavily neutered from every other iteration of power from pain

and also Wych's and Haemonculi are lacking their unique army rules

that they had

Combat Drugs and Fleshrought resiliance

[opaque coyote]

I don't think the Deldar are supposed to be the ones suffering.

[arctic talon]

they just blanket applied power from pain

to the entire army

Tbf power from pain is getting stronger from the pain of others

lol

be it other Drukhari or some Fire warrior you just skinned alive

[languid meadow]

Watching lamenter fans paint their fake ass warcry on wplace is crazy

[rose thorn]

Can’t wait for knights nerd followed by another knights point decrease

[arctic talon]

they deserve it

prolly gona be a points bump

[rocky gale]

Still waiting on the Imperial Knight codex

[arctic talon]

There's something wrong

with that book lol

I'm like 99% sure the mould broke

for the new IK

[rose thorn]

Knights are a self perpetuating curse of ruining their own army

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

they lowkey never should have been their own army

lol

[rose thorn]

At this point yeah

[arctic talon]

No

from the day they launched lol

They've always been an issue

[rose thorn]

GW refuses to let knights play like their fantasy

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

[rose thorn]

Because everyone but knights would hate it

[arctic talon]

because their fantasy is awful for everyone else

tbh

[rose thorn]

Except last edition, normal knights were fun for a little bit

[arctic talon]

Yeah

tbh CK rn are like

not problematic for the big ones

the small ones are the issue(why am I not surprised)

[rose thorn]

Forcing knights to do shit besides the objective is probably the best way to do it

[arctic talon]

making knights juggle apples

thats the real solution

okay unironically the real solution is to make them need to run household troops/levys

but then Knight players might hate that

[rose thorn]

Pls gw buff big knights and murder little knights everyone wil be happy

[arctic talon]

ngl

I'm fine with little knights

but little knights and big knights are both oppresive

at random tbh

[rose thorn]

Yeha but they are always a balance issue

[arctic talon]

well not at random

Knights are an eternal balance issue as an army

[rose thorn]

I would say at the end they could just group up knights into agents and then make a knight detachment, but there’s no agents of chaos

[arctic talon]

tbh GW wouldn't do that because of the backlash they got from DW alone

the IK and CK playerbase are like

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

at least 2x larger

lol

[rose thorn]

Do you think 10th editions rules will last another edition or get reset

[arctic talon]

11e is not a reset

I hope 12e also isn't one either

10e has solid foundations

except like a solid chunk of the house is rotten lol

so just rebuild that part of the house and don't demolish the whole thing lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

They need cope after SnipeWib overruled their dumbass fanon lore

https://tenor.com/view/jj-laughing-lol-haha-laugh-gif-17577715

[arctic talon]

Lamenters are funny bcs they're stupid

lol

[rose thorn]

The redditization of lamenters is crazyyy

[opaque coyote]

Valiant to the hole of damnation. Faithful to the point where the light blinds them.

...except the warp storm. That's probably the only area of bad luck that they really have that was unavoidable

[arctic talon]

yeah the warpstorm one is the only one they weren't being actual dumbasses on

and was actual bad luck

lol

[opaque coyote]

I do still like them even after learning their actual lore

Probably because I like valiant dumbasses

[arctic talon]

oh this title screen is good

[opaque coyote]

You have to admit at least one thing. They didn't hear no bell.

...

And that's because they accidentally fucking broke it.

[rose thorn]

Playing stellaris without any context of anything is kinda terrifying lmao

[opaque coyote]

Oh right

I actually forgot that exists

Did it release?

[arctic talon]

no

this thing isn't due for release for like

several years

[arctic talon]

its like running around blind in the cold black void of space just like your science ship

[opaque coyote]

Valve moment

[arctic talon]

glory be to ice frog

and his insane deranged balancing decisions

[rose thorn]

They all may have went missing but they turned out fine

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

Somehow

I have no idea what the fuck happens to them

[arctic talon]

they warp out

is why

[vagrant fox]

I'm really not sure where the idea that lamenters are super nice guys who go above and beyond to save randomass civilians comes from
I might be forgetting something but all I can think of is them trying to defend a civilian convoy and getting clowned on

[arctic talon]

emergency FTL is why they go missing

[opaque coyote]

...oh great all of them experience Event Horizon

Jk

[rose thorn]

I’m making first contact with something on my starting system, it’s really weird

Like

They appeared mid game

[arctic talon]

They tried saving a bunch of civilians on an Ork controlled world, but they couldn't save them all so they just died on the planet in a "heroic" sacrifice

[arctic talon]

oh yeah that happens sometimes

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, some of them were suffering the black death or whatever the fuck it's called.

Actually that's another thing that they couldn't really control.

[arctic talon]

they weren't

not then

that was literally just them deciding might as well stay and die because we can't sav e them all

[opaque coyote]

Like they were told "Yeah this geneseed is completely immune."

And then it wasn't.

[arctic talon]

well it was pretty immune for a while

[opaque coyote]

They also asked the slaves.

[rose thorn]

Ah nice

[opaque coyote]

They agreed to stay.

Which is

Miles better than what SMs usually do

Consent is important kids

[rose thorn]

Being underwater religious crabs is pretty great so far

[opaque coyote]

Whether it's sex or getting fucking bombed

[arctic talon]

Crab people crab people

[rose thorn]

No one wants to bug me and I’m doing my science in peace

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-knife-attack-gif-5063888

[rose thorn]

Okay and something weird happened-

[opaque coyote]

I need to try ott Stellaris again

And

Hopefully be genocided again

I'm not even being the Imperium 2 most of the attempts. I'm just trying to live man

[rose thorn]

OOOOOOO minor artifacts yum

[arctic talon]

portrait time

[opaque coyote]

Also on a slightly related note.

Mirelurks from Fallout freak me the fuck out.

[arctic talon]

Do not make fallen empires angry

[opaque coyote]

I'm sorry but they look horrifying

[arctic talon]

I mean they're mreant to be creepy

[rose thorn]

Uhg I have too much money and food what do I do with this

[arctic talon]

Sell food and energy credits for trade and use trade to buy other stuff

you can either do it via a slow process of setting up a once per year thing

or just spam the trade button and nuke the economy lol

[rose thorn]

I’ll stack up on alloys then

[opaque coyote]

Yeah. That's why I always hunt them with a good tool known as

A minigun

Except Fallout 4

[rose thorn]

I have 25k energy credits

[opaque coyote]

The Minigun sucks in Fallout 4

[rose thorn]

There we go

[opaque coyote]

I hate the fact that it sucks

It was fine in 3

It was fine in NV

Why did they make the melee with the Minigun more effective than the Minigun itself

I wish I was joking

Bethesda

Bethesda why

[vagrant fox]

Another instance of a gun beltfed from a backpack storage vanished, intolerable

[opaque coyote]

Why did you do this to me

...

[vagrant fox]

I doubled its firerate with a mod and it was pretty funny

[opaque coyote]

At least the Gatling laser got an upgrade.

It even got a new power source to explain why it doesn't have a backpack

Which is better than the MINIGUN

[rose thorn]

Both my neighbors are mega corps so I’m just gonna trade with them and let them do their thing

[opaque coyote]

Just prepare in case if they want to

expand their market

[rose thorn]

Both fo them are pacifists liek me actually-

[opaque coyote]

Huh

Pacifist megacorp

How does that

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Wh

I am trying to think on how that would even fucking work

Probably sell weapons to other nations

"Hey, we never touched any person. We just sell the stuff that kills them."

[rose thorn]

They are pacifist traders what can I say

[arctic talon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

Caravaneers

/j

caravaneers are another energy credit sink

you can get lootboxes from them

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah I got a bomb

[arctic talon]

that give you a sense of "pride" and "accomplishment"

LMAO

[rose thorn]

May or may not have dumped like 25 k credits in them and got nothing

Collecting astral threads now yay

[vagrant fox]

Caravaneers kept leaving trash in my space, untrustworthy sort

[rose thorn]

A pumpkin asked me to gamble

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/wRl_8bCeJLc?si=UiHhh7lYFlxF0a43

[opaque coyote]

I fucking love the automaton voice in this animation

[rose thorn]

wait- someone can go rogue and just- go to a pre FTL planet?

[vagrant fox]

Sometimes a funny can happen yea

[rose thorn]

“Hey ur annoying as fuck how about you let us give you this paradise planet and pretend we don’t exist”

And they put the planet, in my capital system

Context I’m an ocean species lmao

[rose thorn]

Hey gw wtf is this lmao

Idk if the making the Scottish regiment sexy lady is worse than the Native American Rambo

[rose thorn]

i love my capitalist neighbors they protect me fromt he horrors of the galaxy\

[dapper gyro]

Despite her outfit, it is carapace rated.

[rose thorn]

I don’t wanna know ways going on in the other side of the galaxy causing this lag

[arctic talon]

(Pops)

[rose thorn]

Ah

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside population numbers are the biggest cause of lag

Even after the changes to make them lag less

[opaque coyote]

I accidentally clicked on an anti-woke grifter video and now my feed is slightly ruined

Fuck

[raven stone]

Nah, use it as an intelligence gathering tool

Then come here and laugh at them to stay sane

[tough haven]

Now find woke grifter videos to balance it out

[raven stone]

How does one "woke grift"?

Making explanation videos of all the pronous or something?

[tough haven]

The opposite way as anti woke grifters? Duh?

The same thing but woke

[rose thorn]

the slums in aos look better than anywhere i lived lmao

[queen laurel]

Nicest place in Birmingham

[rose thorn]

lmao

[green loom]

Being positive

Generally

Or calling out regressive stuff/racism

You can't really distinguish it half the time from your average youtuber

[cinder pivot]

virtue signaling I suppose

[rocky gale]

I looked up Birmingham and found out they have this thing

I don't like it

[queen laurel]

what

why show me this

[rocky gale]

You brought up Birmingham

You made me see this thing

[celest dome]

She saw it, suffered and we deserve to suffer too

[rocky gale]

I've never wanted a building to die bfore

[queen laurel]

Fuckin dark eldar

but

What am I looking at

[rocky gale]

Apparently it's a shopping centre

[queen laurel]

It looks like a beached whale that got washed with bleach and had all of its features removed

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/MvsQ0-HnyPI?si=crxDEEmzpxusfNaX

[lament shoal]

Happiest man in Necromunda

[crystal forum]

Birmingham is a FUCKING SHITHOLE

[raven stone]

Oh Birmingham - and their bin workers are still on strike…

[lament shoal]

"I just woke up in a FUCKING steamy mood yeah? CAUSE I LIVE, IN A SHIT HOLE! NECROMUNDA IS A FUCKING SHIT HOLE! I HATE THE FUCKING PLACE! I FUCKING HATE IT! ITS FULL OF DICKHEADS, I FUCKING HATE IT!"

[rocky gale]

Ongoing apparently

But they've managed to outscource collection so there's no longer mountains of rubbish in the streets

[vagrant fox]

Nominally better than Bradford at least

[queen laurel]

Damn the new escher drug must be crazy if you can talk after your head got blown off even for a few seconds

[rocky gale]

Bruh it's happening, ODST Warbond in Helldivers 2

https://youtu.be/2O_9hwQ8jLw

[storm jungle]

Idk why people are surprised

this was like pretty much a no-brainer

[crystal forum]

holy fucking shit warthog sound effect

and the shotgun

take all my money

4 guns in a single pack is wild

[rocky gale]

No DMR bad Warbond

[queen laurel]

THEY GOT THE M90A

[tough haven]

Are space marines ever servitorized (after gene-seed) removal of course

[vagrant fox]

A crimson fist scout as servitorized as punishment that I recall of

So I suppose it can

[median star]

i think it also happens to neophytes that didnt take the surgeries well somtimes

[surreal nest]

Its also only 500 more SC im actually surprised

I thought for sure it was gonna be a set of armor and one gun for 25 bucks

[celest dome]

Doesn't the Black Templar also do that ? And they have a mini of one

[storm jungle]

cenobyte servitors yeah

[cinder pivot]

My tired eyes read Rynn's World as Ryan's World

[summer mural]

damn

theres space marine servitors?

how are they different from regular space marines

[misty vector]

Seems wasteful

[crystal forum]

it was either shotgun or dmr for me

i was getting more and more hyped as the guns kept getting revealed

[languid meadow]

This shit is so magnificent

Never leaving the AR

[crystal forum]

i really thought it was just going to be the smg and pistol since packs only get 2 guns recently

i wonder how the silenced smg will work

first stealth gun?

[languid meadow]

Released yeah?

But we've had a suppressed lib In the files since launch iirc

[crystal forum]

ye ik

[languid meadow]

My only gripe is the muted Urban camo on the medium

But I'll live

[crystal forum]

wdym

[languid meadow]

Hold on I might've seen something diff

would've preferred a solid black or grey like other ODSTs but this armour is based off of the Rookie it seems

still gonna rock it tho

yeah he has the same pattern

[crystal forum]

i'm actually going to squeal if the scout car camo changes its sound effects

[languid meadow]

the HD2 one is just slightly brighter

[crystal forum]

it sounded like a warthog in the video

[languid meadow]

yeah it does

[crystal forum]

leaked?

[languid meadow]

I was saying it sounded like the warthog oops

also I love how you cant ADS with the MA5C and most likely can't with the SMG as well

[crystal forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407351833537806427/1407351833881612491/Nacho_Beauty_Shot_16x9_ESRB.jpg?ex=68a5ca08&is=68a47888&hm=59e19097481e9cdcde2c17a75d3f70626aaaa67070199c4641463fd2d2bd429a&

[languid meadow]

war criminal cape

can't wait

[crystal forum]

so much stuff for one pack

[languid meadow]

yeah makes sense the title is Rookie since the HJ armour is his

but god Helljumper would've made a banger title

[crystal forum]

according to a leaker:
Feet First Armor Passive – Applied to both the above armor sets, this passive allows your Helldiver Helljumper to make less noise when moving, become immune to leg injuries, and increases the range of discovering points of interest by 30%.

[misty vector]

Pleasantly surprised its only 500 extra supercredits

[crystal forum]

interesting passive

[languid meadow]

yeah that's a bit crazy

since the Killzone stuff was mega expensive

[crystal forum]

so the armours are stealth focused

[languid meadow]

finally

we've been needing stealth stuff for a while

[misty vector]

Yeah but you could pick and choose the ones you actually wanted so you could spend less

[crystal forum]

i thought arrowhead hated stealth since solo cheesing

[misty vector]

Though this is good too

[crystal forum]

increased point of interest range is wild though

this armour is literally made for my playstyle

running around the map separated from the 3 other randoms and doing all the side tasks

[languid meadow]

passive? peak
armour? peak
weapons? peak

[storm jungle]

Bad gamer

[languid meadow]

yeah best warbond

[crystal forum]

we still dont have leaked gun stats

they might be shit

[storm jungle]

They prob will be

[misty vector]

shotgun seems pretty beefy if its only gonna have 6 shells before reload

[crystal forum]

at least there's a a whopping 4 options so at least one might be good

[arctic talon]

I’d assume they’re light pen

All around

Maybe the AR won’t be lol

[crystal forum]

assault rifle prob has high fire rate or smth

[languid meadow]

nah the AR should be med pen if they're going off of the games

[arctic talon]

The AR sucks in halo 3

lol

[languid meadow]

In 3

[crystal forum]

smg clearly has the silencer gimmick and being one handed

[arctic talon]

This is based on ODST which is 3

[arctic talon]

Return of the ninja from 1 lol

Except it prolly won’t have heavy pen

[crystal forum]

pistol looks like a default pistol with different stats

prob will be ignored

since secondaries are rarely good

[arctic talon]

Secondaries are utility

Tbh

I doubt the pistol will be bad

[crystal forum]

there's way more shit secondaries than good ones

[languid meadow]

it wouldn't make sense to take the stats form 3 only at least for the AR which is in every halo game but 2, the SMG and pistol? yeah I see that but the ar prob not

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

I didn’t say it would be good

Smh

[queen laurel]

so just mid

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dapper gyro]

Halo 3 AR is almost as bad as Reach.

[misty vector]

might be good for the silencer

[crystal forum]

i wonder what the shotgun will have going on since it just looks like a bunch of other shotguns

i'll still use it

[arctic talon]

AR is bad in Halo 3, reach and 4

its good in 1 against flood, and its good in 5 and infinite

[dapper gyro]

4 is pretty decent to be honest.

[languid meadow]

it has good damage in 4 but shit ammo like every other gun in 4

[arctic talon]

Its ammo economy is so shit it makes it bad compared to the other bullet hoses or precision weapons

is my point tbh

Storm rifle is god awful but they drop like candy

[dapper gyro]

Fair enough

[arctic talon]

so the AR ends up lacking a niche in the PVE sandbox

[dapper gyro]

Though compare directly to other AR, it is on par with H6.

[arctic talon]

in PVP its just, fine

yeah thats fair

[crystal forum]

MA5C Assault Rifle
An iconic rifle; the definition of reliable and having taken down countless aliens bent on wiping out humanity, it is time to turn its sights on enemies of MANAGED DEMOCRACY. It comes equipped with the convenient ammo counter and a built-in compass - let it guide you to victory.

[arctic talon]

in any case the H3 AR is depressing as fuck lol

[crystal forum]

steam page only mentions the ammo counter lol

[arctic talon]

lol

[crystal forum]

M6C/SOCOM Pistol
They say to keep your friends close and your sidearm closer. Well, WE say that. This standard issue ODST pistol will always be your friend, with built-in laser sight, suppressor, and flashlight

[arctic talon]

the reach AR suffers from bulletspongitis that all the non precision weapons in PVE suffer from

[crystal forum]

pistol is silenced apparently

[dapper gyro]

H6 is H4, but better balanced.

[crystal forum]

so that's its gimmick

[arctic talon]

I'd fucking hope its silenced

lmao

[languid meadow]

Infinites AR is so gooood

[arctic talon]

infinite and Halo 5 AR are goood

Halo 5 AR was lowkey too strong

[crystal forum]

M90A Shotgun
This powerful shotgun carries a kick and has a handy flashlight mounted on it so you can see the fear in your enemies' eyes before you teach them a valuable lesson about LIBERTY

[arctic talon]

lol

[languid meadow]

we're never getting another one like it since people complained

[arctic talon]

tbf

[crystal forum]

shotgun has nothing really stated

[arctic talon]

the halo 5 AR was strong as fuck

[dapper gyro]

H6 has way less precision weapons compare to H4.

[arctic talon]

and then we got the infinite AR lol

H6 has a lean sandbox in general

[crystal forum]

M7S SMG
Silent and deadly, this SMG is the model ODST soldier’s primary weapon. With caseless ammo and a non-removable suppressor; this weapon is ready to spread FREEDOM to every corner of the galaxy.

[dapper gyro]

H5 is a different game, so I don't compare anything Halo to it.

[crystal forum]

smg of course is silenced

[languid meadow]

I love infinite ar

[arctic talon]

which is very different from the like

last 4 Halo games

or 5 ig?

the only game with as "tight" of a sandbox is 1 lol

in terms of lack of overlaping weapon roles

[dapper gyro]

Not even considering how OP the magnum is.

[arctic talon]

though ig with the MA5K

The sandbox feels more like 2's lol

[crystal forum]

im guessing the shotgun will have high damage but high spread

[arctic talon]

Shotgun is gona be like the dual barrel shotguns you find on the ground

but its gona have actual ammo

thats my prediction

[dapper gyro]

I like H4 and H6 AR. H5 is too COD like.

[languid meadow]

the shotgun will prob do way more damage compared to the other ones if it's slower and has less ammo, but it's arrowhead so I wouldn't put it past them to mess that up

[dapper gyro]

H3 shotgun suck, too.

[arctic talon]

Shotguns have been worse since Halo 1

[crystal forum]

maybe high knockback too?

[arctic talon]

I actually don't hate the bulldog

[crystal forum]

something to make it really useful in urban

[arctic talon]

also the new banished shotgun in infinite

is fucking hilarious

gravity hammer bayonet is a great idea

[crystal forum]

honestly my fav gun added recently is the multi barrel thing from the last pack

it's so fun

[languid meadow]

I have yet to buy that one

been saving SCs

worth it

[arctic talon]

the mutilator is such a funny idea

[languid meadow]

the new carbine they added is also cool

[arctic talon]

I hope it returns in a future halo game

[dapper gyro]

They cut it from 12 rounds to 6, worst range of all Halo game! Yes, H3 shotgun is worse than H2 shotgun.

[arctic talon]

Ngl

thats a crazy take but I respect it

lol

the H2 shotgun feels sooooooo bad

[languid meadow]

since it takes design from the gravity rifle a CE cut weapon

[crystal forum]

i hope they add a WW1 themed pack that has a shotgun with bayonet

[arctic talon]

the H3 shotgun also feels bad but it can delete shit

[crystal forum]

because i fucking love bayonets

[arctic talon]

We got the

rifle with the bayonet

not the constitution

the mag fed one

[crystal forum]

two actually

[languid meadow]

I think we'll have to wait for this one since we just got a bayonet/melee warbond recently

[arctic talon]

constitution is a meme machine

so I don't count it

[crystal forum]

i got all skins for it

level 25

[hallow plover]

The real question is DMR or BR?

[arctic talon]

I've already accepted I'm not getting my favorite Helldivers 1 weapon back

because its broken as shit

oh how I miss the RX-1 Railgun lol

[dapper gyro]

BR is way better in practice.

[crystal forum]

melee combat sucks ass still is my issue

[arctic talon]

in terms of which I prefer in the sandbox? or my personal taste

BR for sandbox, I like how the DMR looks though

[crystal forum]

the aiming of melee is wack

[arctic talon]

realistically the DMR tends to have a ton of overlap with the carbine

[languid meadow]

"Legendary Warbond*" am I stupid or is this a new way of labeling these? because if so I expect all future collabs to be warbonds with this tag

[dapper gyro]

For realism, the DMR makes more sense.

[crystal forum]

devs treat melee like a meme but it's legit a strategy i use against squids

[arctic talon]

which is probably why Reach replaced the carbine with the needle rifle

[crystal forum]

when swarmed by voteless melee is very good

[hallow plover]

Needle rifle was great

[crystal forum]

no reloading means always ready

[arctic talon]

Needle rifle was great

I'm so sad

infinite got so little post launch support

[languid meadow]

found it

[arctic talon]

because the team was literally a skeleton crew on an IV drip of cash

[dapper gyro]

Needle rifle is full auto, which is so funny.

[crystal forum]

killzone didnt have that

[arctic talon]

killzone was meant to be a warbond

originally btw

They just wanted to make more cash

[languid meadow]

also the weapons aren't gonna be upgradable

sad

but

killzone ones aren't either

[arctic talon]

needle rifle is def meant to fill a different role from the Carbine

which is fine

[crystal forum]

wait wtf is a warbond ticket

[arctic talon]

its really fun tbh

[arctic talon]

super earth edition

[crystal forum]

or token

[arctic talon]

or whatever its called

comes with one

[dapper gyro]

Needle rifle is goated for legendary run in Reach.

Because brutes don't have shield, so they go boom after 3 needles.

[crystal forum]

oh legendary warbond just means the cost is 1500 instead of 1000

[arctic talon]

brutes in reach are so derpy looking lol

[dapper gyro]

Turn the Legendary vs Brute easy mode.

[arctic talon]

honestly I wonder what the next halo game

is going to do sandbox wise

are we gona get a huge one like 3/4/5/reach

or is it gona be more lean again

[hallow plover]

Brutes are derpy in every games but H2

[dapper gyro]

H6 is a big big shit show in term of development.

[arctic talon]

nah they look good in infinite imo

yeah

[languid meadow]

[arctic talon]

total dumpsterfire of a development cycle

You don't need to ADS smh

you got your VISR nerd

[crystal forum]

for which

[languid meadow]

the AR

[arctic talon]

all of them

[crystal forum]

i think the video explicitely shows that the ar doesnt have a sight when aiming

like in halo

[languid meadow]

it does

[celest dome]

I wonder if they'll do 3rd rts for Halo

[dapper gyro]

In Halo lore, the helmet visor has HUD for your gun, so you don't need iron sight.

[celest dome]

Didn't play the second one but the 1st was nice

[languid meadow]

yeah it's the halo perspective at least for the AR, you ads for the shotgun and pistol and I don't think we saw the SMG

[arctic talon]

ngl

[crystal forum]

this is aiming

[arctic talon]

I actually kinda liked halo 5's multiplayer lol

Oh its fucking halo 5 ADS

lmao

[crystal forum]

you cant go in first person without aiming

[arctic talon]

thats really funny I'm ngl

[languid meadow]

yeah it looks good

[crystal forum]

so that's what the sight is

[hallow plover]

As much as I love the Halo series I'm not sure I want a new halo game

[languid meadow]

I'm AGREEING with you I know of this

that comment that was under the post about how the weapons wont be customizable

and how they want sights on the AR

[crystal forum]

it the reach and halo 4 ads too

[celest dome]

Well tbf, I'd rather see a middly game than no game at all

[arctic talon]

we are getting one

its inevitable

[dapper gyro]

H4 and H5 gameplay is good, but it is just not Halo for me.

[hallow plover]

It can't be worse, right?

[arctic talon]

Infinite did well enough despite the total clusterfuck of a dev cycle

I mean

infinite wasn't bad

[dapper gyro]

The core of H6 is great.

[arctic talon]

I don't think any of the 343 halo games were lke

[crystal forum]

if we get a first person reticle that would legit be better than a sight

[arctic talon]

actually bad games fundamentally lol

[dapper gyro]

Just shit management.

[celest dome]

They were middly

But not bad

[arctic talon]

I'm not even sure if thats a controversial take

but I think all 3 of them had solid bones

and some meat on it

even if 5's meat wasn't halo mostly

[dapper gyro]

H6 mp does feel like Bungie Halo mp.

[arctic talon]

Halo infinite feels more classic halo then reach

lol

[languid meadow]

I think infinite had the best artstyle in a long while and it sucks they're moving to UE5 now

[hallow plover]

H6 has good things. I can't put my finger on where they dropped the ball tho.

[arctic talon]

bad long term support

compared to previous games

[hallow plover]

Easiest laso also

[arctic talon]

due to the fact they left a skeleton crew on the game

game is easy due to how many tools you get in campaign

[dapper gyro]

Because the pull the plug...

[crystal forum]

i feel like instead of the pistol we could have had a sniper or the cool double barrel rocket launcher

[arctic talon]

lack of a linear campaign is unfortunate

[dapper gyro]

They scrapped all of the SP DLC.

[celest dome]

FS seem to plan the same thing

[crystal forum]

like come on the halo sniper is more iconic than the assault rifle

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[arctic talon]

Halo infinite has a lot of issues mostly due to executive interference imo

[hallow plover]

It lacked level design diversity

[arctic talon]

They had a ton of post launch content planned

and then uh

nope

it got cut

[hallow plover]

But then you have desert maps

[arctic talon]

almost all of it lol

[celest dome]

The Assault rifle is sadly the one that is used in most of the cinematics iirc

[languid meadow]

bro tide games already chunk that shit is NOT running well on UE5

[dapper gyro]

They fired the single player team lol.

[arctic talon]

Assault rifle is iconic in Halo

imo

its your first weapon, always

[crystal forum]

the pistol though...

[arctic talon]

except halo 2

the magnum changes skin and function every goddamn halo game

[crystal forum]

i know the smg is popular for halo 2 and 3 boomers

[arctic talon]

only halo 2

lol

[crystal forum]

but who cares about the pistol

[arctic talon]

but they love the BR more

[languid meadow]

the pistol was added since it's the odst pistol and they needed a sidearm for the warbond

[hallow plover]

H2 magnum was... not good

[arctic talon]

also yeah it is the odst pistol

[celest dome]

Like by cover alone I think it win

[languid meadow]

I would've loved for the sniper tho

[rose thorn]

Maxie Zeus living in my head rent free

[crystal forum]

it doesn't look like the magnum

[languid meadow]

also a spankr strat but hey

no it's their own handgun

[arctic talon]

yeah its the SOCCOM

or whatever iirc

[dapper gyro]

H2 pistol is barely a "magnum".

[crystal forum]

why tf

[dapper gyro]

It feels like a 9mm handgun.

[arctic talon]

because ODST procurement demands they get special toys

[arctic talon]

lol

[languid meadow]

ODSTs are in a dick measuring contest with the rest of the UNSC

so they get their own stuff

[crystal forum]

no i mean why not add the more iconic handgun of the franchise

[arctic talon]

because its Halo 3 ODST themed

not halo themed as a whole

[crystal forum]

ah

[languid meadow]

prob because it's oversized for normal humans as well

[arctic talon]

well there's human sized ones

explictly

[dapper gyro]

ODST magnum uses H2 model with extra attachment.

[arctic talon]

and they cut off the hand guard

iirc

[dapper gyro]

Same with the SMG, which is not H3 SMG.

[arctic talon]

imo they shouldn't have picked the AR lol

mostly since that thing barely shows up in Halo 3 ODST outside of firefight

but ig it wins the iconic contest

[crystal forum]

im just happy i got shotgun

my fav halo gun

[dapper gyro]

The AR show up often when you are not playing as Rookie.

[languid meadow]

legit we got two of the exclusive ODST weapons and two iconic weapons

you can't have a halo collab and NOT use the AR

[celest dome]

Halo Spass 12

[arctic talon]

halo reach also has some pretty interesting concept art

[crystal forum]

it's also the first gun you ditch

[arctic talon]

regarding ODSTs and the UNSC as a whole

[dapper gyro]

Lore accurate AR, you see the ingame damage for DMR? AR in book is DMR full auto.

[celest dome]

The carbine get ditched faster

[languid meadow]

not me I rock that shit all the way through no matter how dog shit it is

[dapper gyro]

THat would be fun.

[arctic talon]

if we get a lore accurate AR

that would be batshit insane lol

lore accurate any halo gun would be goofy as fuck

in a good way

[crystal forum]

doesn't the ar shoot two barrels at once

[languid meadow]

Reach is interesting since we get to see the army more than the marines

[dapper gyro]

Btw, DMR in the lore has full auto selector, too!

[arctic talon]

nah

oh also fun fact

halo 5 had ODST concept art

[crystal forum]

damn my childhood is ruined

i could have sworn in reach it shot both

[languid meadow]

sucks we never got to see ODSTs in infinite

they're talked about still being active on the ring

[arctic talon]

MA37 only has one barrel

[languid meadow]

Bro got the silver visor unlocked

[crystal forum]

im still surprised microsoft and sony collabed on something

[arctic talon]

jesus christ halo 5 has so much ODST concept art

halo 5 went through the wringer as well huh

development wise

[languid meadow]

saw someone say this is like the Berlin wall falling

[dapper gyro]

Halo 5 was 3 different games...

[crystal forum]

naaaaah

[dapper gyro]

Rebuild and rebuild...

[crystal forum]

there probably was just huge amounts of effort from both sides

[arctic talon]

like holy shit lol

[dapper gyro]

The final game has nothing to do with the 1st trailer for H5.

Then you have the "Hunt the Truth" ads... which again has nothing to do with the game.

[arctic talon]

the only odst design I dislike is this one tbh

too much skin

way too much skin

[rocky gale]

I think one of a major problem with the 343 Halo's is a similar problem that appeared in later Assassins Creed games, they relied too heavily on tie in novels and comics to tie the narrative of the sequels together, when most players won't read said tie in's

[celest dome]

Sony >< Microsoft collab have happened before, but as usual, it's on Sony games

[dapper gyro]

H2 ODST looks the coolest for me.

Reach ODST is Eh...

[arctic talon]

H2 kind of fucking nailed it the first time around

lol

[languid meadow]

reach odst is too chunky

I do not like H2 ODSTs

[arctic talon]

I think I like 3 or one of the 5 concept arts the most

regarding ODSTs

[languid meadow]

I think 3 did them well

[arctic talon]

but that might just be nostalgia for me

bcs 3 was my first halo game

[rocky gale]

Like yea Halo has some great tie in novels, but like the majority of the events in Infinite revolve around things that happen in a series of tie in novels.

[crystal forum]

yeah im pretty sure microsoft will let anybody collab as long as they get their chunk of profit but sony is a bitch

[arctic talon]

There's also the other huge issue for 343 refusing to ever just finisH one of their stories in a recent halo game

[celest dome]

Sony is much more protective of anything they have

[languid meadow]

idk why they made the recon armour in the warbond so fucking blue

[dapper gyro]

H4 story continue off screen...

[rocky gale]

and AC does the same where one game ends and the next one you're just in a completely different place, surrounded by people the game doesn't introduce and it just acts like you know who they all are because they're all characters from a tie in novel.

[dapper gyro]

H5 off screen...

[arctic talon]

they killed The Didact in a comic(why), they killed Jul M'dama in Halo 5 at the very start with very little build up unless you read the books, and then Halo Infinite resolves the entire halo 5 plot offscreen

[celest dome]

Henc there still being sony exclusives but not as much for Microsoft

[arctic talon]

like

I really really really wish

[crystal forum]

typical japanese company shit

[arctic talon]

343 just committed to that shit

[dapper gyro]

H6 started with nothing related to anything before that.

[arctic talon]

H6 hijacks HW2's story

except it makes the banished look lame aesthetically

so L

still mad what they did to the brute ranks

compared to the concept art

[languid meadow]

true.... but we got a silent shadow

[dapper gyro]

To even know about Atriox, you need to play Halo Wars 2.

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/jega-rdomnai-halo-infinite-jega-my-beloved-hot-topic-cute-gif-24221290

[dapper gyro]

WHich is a complely different kind of game from mainline Halo.

[arctic talon]

like holy shit, this concept art looks way better

then the Covenant 2.0 we got in game

[storm jungle]

Really love 90's anime inspiration lasting through to even ODST

The aesthetic is great

[languid meadow]

God I love the Banished

[arctic talon]

the banished aesthetically look great in halo wars 2

[languid meadow]

also love how Atriox bitch slapped Chief around

[arctic talon]

shame they look less in infinite due to way too many conflicting colors lol

[languid meadow]

I do not like the Infinity dying instantly however

[arctic talon]

like, there's no unifying color for the Infinite banished aside from vehicles and buildings lol

Like, yeah the enemies in infinite look great, but they look like generic covenant remanent 2193234141

[crystal forum]

why is it called halo infinite anyways

[languid meadow]

I think that problem is with the jackals, elites, and grunts

since they still use covie ranks/colours

for some reason

[arctic talon]

it was planned to be 15 years long

lol

[storm jungle]

15 YEARS?

[arctic talon]

brutes also use covie rank colors

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[arctic talon]

yeah we would have gotten halo 7 and 8 via halo infinite as well

was the original plan

but uh

[storm jungle]

I see only one issue

343

[arctic talon]

yeah that didn't work out

well infinite wasn't even 343's fault

lol

[dapper gyro]

It was initially planned as a platform for live service Halo.

[arctic talon]

Microsoft literally hamstringed them

[dapper gyro]

With "Infinite" as the launcher.

[rocky gale]

Because they introduce a new alien nicknamed the Endless, which can't be killed by the Halo array

[languid meadow]

Why keep minors, majors, and ultras if you're not gonna change em that much

[arctic talon]

honestly the grunt mule + banished spartan killers look good

[languid meadow]

why are you BLUE

[arctic talon]

they're not even called minors,majors, ultras btw

[lament shoal]

Mfw the halo is infinite

[arctic talon]

is the worst part

[languid meadow]

yeah all of the unique mini bosses are cool

[languid meadow]

no but they kept the fucking colours which sucks

make the elites red

all of htem

not just the majors

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-here-pentagon-cod-call-of-duty-call-of-duty-zombies-gif-2970673749876402182

[arctic talon]

just make them the red and white scheme

they had in Halo wars 2

or the red and gunmetal one

depending on rank

[dapper gyro]

Fuck 343i, "Oh, MP is not working well, fire the SP team so we can focus more on MP".

Madness

[arctic talon]

you forgot the part

[dapper gyro]

At least the person who did that is not with MS anymore.