40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

lol

well used to

[queen laurel]

He's currently the only known surviving man of iron

[arctic talon]

yes

[queen laurel]

Do you think he would be very happy if he meets iron kin?

Like holy **** a Society of robots treated well

[arctic talon]

Maybe?

the answer would likely be yes

Since his whole thing is wanting to find someone he can relate to

[dapper gyro]

During DOAT, human creations are pretty strong. I would say that they can go toe to toe vs necros.

[queen laurel]

It would be fun watching him interact with Ironkin Steeljacks

[arctic talon]

if Ur was in his original body its likely nothing in the blackstone fortress except for the Guardian drones would pose a threat to him

[dapper gyro]

MoI are not uniformized, we do know that there were many kinds of "Men" of Iron.

[arctic talon]

yeah

[queen laurel]

oh yeah i forgot the most powerful RT literally wrote a book and transferred it to real life is in black fortress

[arctic talon]

most powerful RT? prolly not

but he's funny

[queen laurel]

It's a joke of me saying that he wrote a book in universe and somehow materialize it in real life

[arctic talon]

lol

[queen laurel]

bro's power level is insane by accomplishing it

[arctic talon]

Famous for thinking Necrons aren’t real

[queen laurel]

are the blackstone fortress books good

[crystal forum]

holy shit arbitor ian on IGN https://youtu.be/lYCDDEn2AY4?si=ubu8AEEprsUDpY6F

@storm jungle

arbitor ian now officially represents the 40k lore

[storm jungle]

I literally posted this a week ago

uaaAGH-

also based that he got a Part 2, love Ian

[crystal forum]

ian fan 🫵

[storm jungle]

his no-nonsense approach to explaining these is also great

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

I'm surprised IGN is smart enough to actually hire a professional when it comes to talking to warhammer Lore I expected them to hire someone like Wes

[crystal forum]

imagine they took arch

[near wasp]

Oh I don't want to even imagine that

[queen laurel]

Ign can be dumb but i'm pretty sure they're not that dumb

[surreal nest]

Can IGN please propose to him meme lore questions and he shuts them down or something

He is gonna say krieg dont just use shovels and someone out there will start screaming

[sour hornet]

Should have picked Luetin.

🥀

[surreal nest]

Nah they should have picked chapter master valrak

[storm jungle]

The Part 1 has a great bit I love where he answer space marine power levels

and hes like

"It entirely depends on the plot and we have entire books showcasing how hard and easy they are to kill in equal measure."

and im in the corner like:

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-bigfellerjake-skippe-space-i-think-gif-26908844

[queen laurel]

I can imagine people fuming though

You know how sensitive people can be on those statements

But then again that's just warhammer fans

[gaunt lily]

when the fridge man doesnt move mach 5, hit nothing but weakpoints with every shot and precognitively dodge every attack from lesser beings (literally everyone)

[raven stone]

I have relocated to my new headquarters (home)!
Granted some things are kinda still on the way/being decided but my electronics and hobby desk is mostly set.

[surreal nest]

Even better

[crystal forum]

i feel like IGN has the resources to get a big name black library writer on their show

but black library probably has writers sign NDA's

[storm jungle]

I mean they do, its just better to hire an actual fan content creator

[arctic talon]

^

Ian's got charisma

[celest willow]

why doesnt gulliman try to remove the imperium's straight religon

[arctic talon]

He can't

he would have to destroy the entire imperium

[sacred ginkgo]

Because he would probably die if he tried

[raven stone]

He saw some value as well, ultimately

[arctic talon]

and kill almost the entire population

he'd also just die if he tried

[raven stone]

That, and also, cause another civil war

[arctic talon]

yeah

ultimately the imperial faith is a

very very very very powerful tool

[raven stone]

I genuinely think Imperium keeps missing the sweet spot with religion per se (which is deliberate)

[celest willow]

I mean they get random miracles so it aint all bad

[raven stone]

Ye ok fair

[arctic talon]

They're meant to be the hyper religous insane death cult

[celest willow]

say does all of the imperium worship the emperor

I could have sworn a few sects didnt

[arctic talon]

if they don't

its not public

because thats how you get burned alive and skinned

or get other "fun" and "interesting" deaths

[raven stone]

Pretty much yes, a must. But…method of worship can vary quite a bit.
Also what EliteWolf says.

Granted, if you are on the very edges of the Imperium (as in Rogue Trader territory) you can have some leeway.

[arctic talon]

yeah but soon enough you'll have missionaries at the door

[raven stone]

But central or mainstream worlds…it all goes back to Emperor.

[arctic talon]

who want to teach the faith

or shove it into your existing religon

[raven stone]

Yea that too

[celest willow]

so all space marines worship him?

[arctic talon]

the imperium is a big fan of cultures with multiple dieties with one supreme diety

since they can hijack it

[arctic talon]

no

Marines rever him

but they don't worship him as a god

generally

there's a few chapters that do

[celest willow]

ahem ahem german boy ahem

[arctic talon]

they don't

actually worship the emperor as a god

lol

there's other chapters that do

[raven stone]

Marines are a very different case.
Only the most zealous of Marines actually worship Emps.

And be for you ask…yes The Ecclesiarchy doesn’t like that.
But they can’t do shit because, well, Marines are given rights to rule their own homeworld however they like.

[celest willow]

I was gonna get really weirded out for a second

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780818860344344649/1402288026771521557/image_V132.gif

[arctic talon]

as Grimaldus has pretty famously said

"The Emperor was immortal and mighty beyond reckoning. But he was no god. Mankind - on its blessed ignorance - worshipped him as one."

[raven stone]

In those cases…being loyal to the chapter is considered good enough on pragmatic grounds.

[arctic talon]

Grimaldus

to note is the reclusiarch of the black templars

therfore the head of their chapters cult/faith

[grave solar]

Black Templar moment.

[arctic talon]

they worship the emperor not as a god but as a powerful human

so same difference really lol

[celest willow]

The Ecclesiarchy doesnt like it when marines worship the emperor?

[arctic talon]

but Grimaldus consistently is portrayed as thinking Emperor != god

[celest willow]

so a cult of personality

[raven stone]

No, Ecclesiarchy doesn’t like how they cannot control how Marines worship the Emepror.

[storm jungle]

I feel like a lot of these are very general facts most people would know tbh

[celest willow]

ah

[raven stone]

TBF you and I are Old Ones who have been steepled and blood soaked in lore since 2nd or 3rd Ed…

[arctic talon]

yeah for the black templars

they're a Cult of personality

[celest willow]

that doesnt sound right

[storm jungle]

I mean its not even that lol

[arctic talon]

yeah well

get used to it

they're just like that

red scorpions, Carchs and fire angels

[celest willow]

no like I could have sworn they worship him

[arctic talon]

all are noted to actually worship the emperor as a God

[arctic talon]

not as a God

[valid needle]

So based and true

[arctic talon]

lol

There are some BT who do worship The Emperor as a God

but the general "momentum" so to speak of the chapter

is that he was an insanely powerful human psyker who created the imperium and marines

and deserves worship for that reason

among some others

[celest willow]

thats just god worshipping with a new label

[arctic talon]

well he's not a God

[celest willow]

I know that

[arctic talon]

thats their view point

you can call it what you want, but they do not worship the Emperor as a God in a sense

[celest willow]

am just saying their view point sounds redundant doesnt make sense to say "he isnt a god but we worship him"

[celest willow]

that doesnt make sense

[raven stone]

I mean, if you feel it is contradictory…also remember 40k is satire.
Any supposed self contradiction of BT attitude could be read as satire of their type of mentality.

[arctic talon]

honestly its likely thats the intent

lol

[storm jungle]

Have you looked at religions IRL

[valid needle]

Yes, to varying degrees.

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/yakub-glaze-lebron-james-lebron-gif-7450672780557101522

[valid needle]

Some as a god others as the emperor

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910400427277828147/1353491142833995787/image0.gif

[arctic talon]

Yakub....

[celest willow]

also am pretty sure any black templar would male anyone if they say the emperor isnt a good

[storm jungle]

Male anyone?

[celest willow]

rather not go there

[storm jungle]

I mean space marines are pretty homoertoic

[storm jungle]

Its literally the same thing

worship of most things doesnt make much sense lol

humans are dumb

its normal

[arctic talon]

the Ecclisiarchy is a fucked up fusion of several irl religons mixed with a death cult

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

its ironically not very catholic church

despite how it looks

It takes from mostly older religons

though there is a lot of abrahamic faith stuff as well

[celest willow]

they are a parody of Abrahamic religons

[arctic talon]

not entierly

[celest willow]

mostly

[arctic talon]

there's more to it then just that

[storm jungle]

I dont see any mosques

shut up elite

[arctic talon]

fuck you we're going to tallaran in the next crusade book and seeing an imperial mosque

[storm jungle]

AAAA-

tallarn is already so bad culturally i dont wanna see more

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

also calling the Emperor some shit like

Abu-Abu-Whatever

who the fuck came up with that lmao

[arctic talon]

don't worry

they'll get it right on the third retcon of Tallaran lore

probably

[storm jungle]

💀

[arctic talon]

look we've had the same tallaran lore since like, 2005

[celest willow]

it feels like a parody of a parody

[arctic talon]

if GW wants to retcon it again, who am I to say no

[storm jungle]

Its really not

tallarn is just WW1 bedouins but as white people

[arctic talon]

yeah they're not that like

[storm jungle]

also the books say "they worship the emperor even more extremely than some people which offputs other imperials"

and im like um

[celest willow]

yeh they just feel so on the nose am speaking as a arab

[arctic talon]

this hasn't been mentioned since like

[storm jungle]

THANK YOU

[arctic talon]

a while

but yeah Tallaren are

they've not aged well

lol

[storm jungle]

and I say this as a muslim/Turk too

its so bad lol

[arctic talon]

at all

Look

the bar is on the floor

[storm jungle]

me when british people write about any middle-eastern culture

[arctic talon]

when it comes to arabic culture for GW

unfortunately

Better then Mr. Jaffar

from WHFB

who worships Chaos

and rules over all of Araby

[valid needle]

All of the BT worship him as a god, along with the mechanicum, inquisition, and 80% of the rest of the imperium.

[arctic talon]

Grimaldus does not consider him a God

[valid needle]

Because helsreach was written before BT got retconned

[arctic talon]

actually did they fucking retcon BT Emperor worship again

goddamit lol

THATS THE THIRD TIME

oh well

[celest willow]

I like the thousand sons tho they cooked with them

[arctic talon]

I'm gona be honest here

I forgot they existed when typing that

anyways probably for the best the original Araby lore is dead and buried by GW

[valid needle]

Originally BT were the most zealous about big e not being a god. Now after helsreach BT are the most zealous that he is a god.

[celest willow]

prop for the best

[arctic talon]

Anyways how about that Nippon lore

with their Kamakazies

and the legendary sword TOYOTA

[storm jungle]

I do like how in OG Araby lore they literally just worshipped Allah

which is fucking hilarious

[arctic talon]

No that was the retcon of the OG one

the original one was Allah was tzeentch

[storm jungle]

NOOOOO

[arctic talon]

💀

[storm jungle]

KDSFLSDFKLDFS

What did they mean by this?

[arctic talon]

idk

but Gw found it problematic even back then

that they fucking retcon'd it like one book later

I feel like early GW for WHFB was uh

playing russian roulette

when it came to writing shit

and its now russian roullete when you pick up an old rulebook on if its normal/interesting lore

or actually racist/vaguely racist stuff that got retcon'd later

[celest willow]

blasphemy aside that would be so dumb lore wise cause that would mean the emporer would be calming to be a son/prophet of tzeench

[arctic talon]

well that was WHFB

not 40k

[storm jungle]

Allah is not in 40k

Yet.

[arctic talon]

Do not make this a reality

[storm jungle]

[celest willow]

the hell you mean yet😭

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Dilara is making a joke they're gona make the Tallarans call the Emperor Allah

[storm jungle]

NO IM NOT

AAA-

[arctic talon]

with a retcon

ARE YOU NOT?

Goddamit

swing and a miss

[gaunt lily]

projecting maybe?

[celest willow]

it is gonna be south park all over again

[arctic talon]

💀

I actually really like the Forgeworld Tallarn minis

for the time they were made in they looked really good

[gaunt lily]

anything forgeworld made is blessed

[arctic talon]

this is untrue

forgeworld has made some ugly stuff before

[gaunt lily]

you cant take my rose tinted glasses

[celest willow]

they should have just taken some "tips" from trench crusade

[arctic talon]

well this was back from 2005

lol

so GW had either historicals to work off of

or their old minis

[gaunt lily]

trench crusade taking tips from 40k tbh

[arctic talon]

and this is what the old Tallarn minis looked like lol

[scenic bolt]

GW SHOULDVE GIVEN THEM BLUE EYES HEH HEH HEH

theyve ripped like 80% of dune anyway go the full 90

[celest willow]

considering the fact that GW seems to be aiming at a global audience I can see why they stopped

[gaunt lily]

they were a lawrence of arabia reference iirc

not dune

[arctic talon]

The most recent tallarn minis looked like this

and also the HWT I sent earlier

[gaunt lily]

some of the fine details they could get in resin still seem more sharp than in modern plastics tbh

[arctic talon]

and their most modern piece of art looks like this

which is from 6e

[storm jungle]

akshually

they do have a "modern" piece

[arctic talon]

nvm they got a new piece of art in the 10e core rulebook

[storm jungle]

yeah that one lol

[arctic talon]

I think both those arts look fine personally

but I'm not sure what like actual Arabs think about it

[arctic talon]

do you know who the artist is for that one? it feels familiar

[languid meadow]

back then they were def arabic inspired but now it's more of ME/North Africa

[arctic talon]

thats, true actually

[storm jungle]

Very possible Miguel but not 100%

[arctic talon]

hm

[scenic bolt]

the planet tallarn being a formerly lush world catastrophized into a solely desert world is def a dune hook

[gaunt lily]

i mean as a regiment theyre pretty neat, strong tank, stealth and small unit tactics, pretty resilient and cool enough dudes to be friends with eldar

[arctic talon]

I more so meant aesthetically

their in lore combat doctrine is like literally normal

[celest willow]

honestly I find it better

[arctic talon]

I c

[gaunt lily]

guardsmen with shemags seem pretty inoffensive? more practical than the regiments rocking kilts atleast

[celest willow]

tbh depends on the age lol

[arctic talon]

that, makes a lot of sense

tbh

[gaunt lily]

oh right, forgot these lil guys existed

[languid meadow]

this is an awesome mini

but it also looks like it's from star wars lmao

[storm jungle]

lmao gottem

[languid meadow]

not even a gottem I love it because of that

[gaunt lily]

my reaction to this information

[languid meadow]

idk the model looks like something from EAW ngl

[arctic talon]

thank you Owlcat

very cool

wait wrong channel

[gaunt lily]

no, this is critical 40k lore

[arctic talon]

We're about to get this convo in dark heresy

its true

the companions are not nearly hostile/actively make fun of each other in Rogue trader/hj

[crystal forum]

oof i prefer the older one

[arctic talon]

I'd assume both coexist

this one is just stylized lol

[crystal forum]

it's too raggy

[arctic talon]

Yeah which is why i think its either Lewis or Miguel

they draw most 40k cloth like that

[storm jungle]

"raggy"

its a fucking desert combat outfit

bro will look at a vietnam era soldier and go:

"its too green"

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-worlds-ice-cube-join-the-rebellion-disruptor-smug-gif-9197881505386225266

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

Fuck sakes

[languid meadow]

I need a guard regiment clad in UCP

it would look so ass but hilarious

[celest willow]

imagine a rock based guardsman regiment

[surreal nest]

What creature is on Janus Draik's shoulder?

[celest willow]

it's a cat

[cyan merlin]

You can add 1 SCP to the warhammer universe
Choose wisely

[storm jungle]

Its a generic alien made up for the mini

[surreal nest]

Damn thats dumb

It looks awesome

[sacred ginkgo]

Draik was fun to play in blackstone

Always go first

[surreal nest]

Expansive lore predating like 30 years and they can't give us cool ecosystem lore

[sacred ginkgo]

Even if he was kinda John Blackstone

[surreal nest]

I am a huge fan of the ratlings

[gaunt lily]

necromundas sewers and ash wastes have cool ecosystem lore tbf

[surreal nest]

And the astropath

[surreal nest]

Without a doubt

[languid meadow]

pretty sure the only planets we have an extensive ecosystem for is Catachan and Necormunda?

[sacred ginkgo]

I've settled on the Crusader as my favorite

[surreal nest]

Is that an expac?

Thats the sword and board yeah?

[sacred ginkgo]

Dude cannot die, has a super easy inspire condition and uses 2d12 for all of his attacks when inspired

[celest willow]

whats the goal max suffering orrr

[sacred ginkgo]

He's also fast

Not eldar fast but dude can move

[cyan merlin]

Good question
Uhh
Maybe whichever one would fit the best
682 kinda fits as a khornian daemon

[arctic talon]

Liber xenologis has some fun fauna

[languid meadow]

096 and 682 are boring

[celest willow]

nah 682 just wants to be left alone

[surreal nest]

I will inhale any ecosystem lore anybody sends my way

[celest willow]

he gives off more of a nurgle vibe

[languid meadow]

106 would be interesting since he would be in heaven with amount of suffering

[arctic talon]

Check your DMs in. A bit

[celest willow]

the old man?

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-bob-esponja-spongebob-celebrating-shout-gif-15748766

[gaunt lily]

some of the Primarchs homeworlds might have decently developed ecosystems tbf, but otherwise the story never lingers in one location long enough to fully flesh out all the neat little details

[languid meadow]

but I think the predatory street art 1155 would be cool

[celest willow]

I know that one teddy bear scp would be a really good daemon of slaanesh

Only scp I feel uncomfortable from

[cyan merlin]

Honestly..? Agreed

[languid meadow]

I like them sometimes

like 096 can be horrifying the premier story for him is still gut wrenching

682 can be written to be emotionally great but most of the time they're both are just boring

[cyan merlin]

Very generic monsters narratively speaking

[celest willow]

SCP-1048 would work

I hate that thing with a burning passion

but I like it bc I hate it

[cyan merlin]

Yikes I forgot about that one

[languid meadow]

Gate Guardian would be cool, just this area that appears on earth with a being that destroys everything and anything that gets within range

[celest willow]

I looked it up when I was 12

worst mistake of my life

[cyan merlin]

What about 610
The unholy union of khorn wrath with nurgle’s plagues

[languid meadow]

depends unlike others it's just a virus really

the only reason the foundation doesn't just blow it up is because it's deep in the earth

in 40k it would be wiped out

[celest willow]

it would get nerfed in 40k

[languid meadow]

610 is hard to transmit by itself

[cyan merlin]

Not quite
Though we don’t really know what the hell is going on down there
Seems more flood-like than just a disease

[celest willow]

they would prop assume it is a normal daemon of nurgle

yk slaanesh needs demons they are actually scary

am so tired of the crab people route

[languid meadow]

it's implied it's a Sarkic plauge or some sort

[cyan merlin]

I hear about Tzeenchian and Slaaneshi daemons the least of the four

[languid meadow]

so to add that you would need to add Yaldabaoth

[celest willow]

tzeenchian demons actually work

they aren't ment to be scary

[gaunt lily]

they could take the sonic angle like the noise marines, draw on mythological concepts like sirens/banshees... but then that would require them caring about fleshing out demons

[celest willow]

say does anybody feel that the great plan of tzeench is that there is no plan and bro is just trolling

[near wasp]

There are siren Daemons

[languid meadow]

actually the one interesting thing you could add from SCP to 40k is Mekhane

[celest willow]

ok but am talking more along scp-1048 vibes

like surface level innocent but it will sink a depravity given the chance

[languid meadow]

The mechanicus would go fucking nuts if they found him.... Mekhane my beloved

[cyan merlin]

Bro is definitely just trolling

That’s why Tzeentch is probably my favorite

[surreal nest]

100% bro is a bluffing gaslighter

[gaunt lily]

their plan is just very flexible and working towards moving goal posts

[plush mason]

Nenio is the best comp they have ever made

so far anyway

[rose thorn]

Hey any games similar to Stellaris that isn’t 500 dollars?

[crystal forum]

endless space

also you can get all the stellaris DLC's with the subscription thing

or we could play together since i have all of them and i want any excuse to rp in a space game with one of you guys

[arctic talon]

Not really, endless space is the closest for space 4X stuff

But it’s very different

[crystal forum]

we should do a stellaris run all of us

[vagrant fox]

Distant Worlds 2 maybe a little, it's different though

[crystal forum]

would you be up for that wolf

[vagrant fox]

or good old masters of orion 2 1996 classic

[green loom]

I've been playing lots of Stellaris recently

[arctic talon]

[rose thorn]

I fucking loveeee endless space lmao

[crystal forum]

is that a yes

[arctic talon]

Yes but when

[rose thorn]

A subscription for a fucking video game???

[arctic talon]

I have almost all the dlc

If you want the honest answer about stellaris dlc

90% of the dlc is chaff lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Only one essential is Utopia imo

The rest are whatever

[crystal forum]

ed wanna join if it happens

[green loom]

The game has like 400 bucks of DLC
So you pay 10 and you can just play all of them for however long it holds your interesting

[arctic talon]

^

[crystal forum]

offer goes to sigsen as well

[arctic talon]

The only reason I own all the dlc

Is I’ve owned the game forever

And the sub thing is new

lol

I’ve poured so much time in the $$$ spent is worth it

[green loom]

Probably but it'd likely be bad for me timewise

[crystal forum]

ok

just seeing whoever would want to join so i can check times

[green loom]

We'll make it a YouTube series
Stellaris MP in a nutshell
Or something

[arctic talon]

I made a stellaris like

DLC teir list

One moment

[rose thorn]

I have an ocd about dlc where I need to own it all or I can’t play it

It’s hell

[crystal forum]

mag do you have stellaris base game

[rose thorn]

No

[green loom]

Yeah and you own all of it for 10 bucks

[arctic talon]

Oh that’s awful lol

[rose thorn]

A month!

[crystal forum]

would you buy it if we make a lore chat campaign

you'll be able to try out all the DLC's

in multiplayer no less

[green loom]

Yeah the host shares all DLCs with players

[rose thorn]

Hm

Idk I only played it twice

[arctic talon]

Mag would have to learn the game

Still

Oh nvm

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Oh nvm

Double

[rose thorn]

I haven’t finished a run

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

dont worry we can go easy

[green loom]

It's not that hard tbh

[crystal forum]

we're all buddies here

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s a bunch of info

[rose thorn]

Ehhh, I’m tight on money I’ve only bought 2 dollar games as of late. And I’m pretty sure the copy I have doenst have multiplayer

Let em check

[arctic talon]

Reasonable

Tbh

[crystal forum]

@vagrant fox what about you

do you have it

[arctic talon]

Hopefully we get someone better

[rose thorn]

20 GBS?!?!?!?

[crystal forum]

gigabytes?

[rose thorn]

YEAH

wow

[green loom]

I have 4 play styles
Dwarf, Space Druid, Space Farmer and House Atreides

[crystal forum]

huh and hoi4 is like not even a full gig

@storm jungle do you have stellaris

we need an evil empire to spice things up

[green loom]

I can be evil smh

[crystal forum]

no you're too soft and kind

[green loom]

[vagrant fox]

I haven't touched Stellaris in a few years, reckon I don't know what's what with how many reworks they do on average

[green loom]

Game is pretty easy currently, I think

[crystal forum]

cmon sigsen join us

so far we have wolf and ed

[vagrant fox]

past 3 am is bed am

[crystal forum]

what even is your time zone

[radiant lance]

Apparently the AI is broken and just doesn't scale at some point

The next patch literally has notes that they fixed this

Like you generally can just run over the AI before mid game especially modded if you know what you're doing lol

[tough haven]

Anyone got any good wizard tower named?

[crystal forum]

that's because the AI has barely been adapted to deal with the DLC's

a classic paradox issue

[arctic talon]

The Spire of stars(before you make a Destiny joke I had come up with that name before that raid was revealed)

Also what type of wizard

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, that's because it's basically like using a giant fucking drill vs people using a sword

Like a sword is a proper weapon but they're stabbing people with massive ass drills

[arctic talon]

Multi melta should still do a ton

lol

Meltas just suck rn

They’re casino cannons

[tough haven]

Lightning but idk if I wanna theme the tower or other things about them around lightning

[crystal forum]

they really shouldn't be up to chance with how close you have to use them

[opaque coyote]

"Let's go gambling!"

Roll

"Ah dangi-"

Melta fucking explodes for no reason

[tough haven]

Spire of stars is pretty good

[arctic talon]

They’re up to chance if they wound and then it’s RNG if the tank tanks a lot of damage or instantly fucking dies

lol

[opaque coyote]

It's probably just not shooting but an explosion is always funnier

[arctic talon]

I used it for a Druid of the stars tower thingy for 5e lol

I’m glad you like it

[tough haven]

I was gonna go to Alchemyst’s Peak

[arctic talon]

That works well

Though if they’re a lighting wizard you could like

Associate the name with it

Idk

[tough haven]

Lichtenberg Lookout?

[arctic talon]

[tough haven]

But again, not sure if I want the tower or other things about them to be lightning themed

[arctic talon]

Ah

[brazen terrace]

Greetings, can you help me to clear out some info with the arbis?

Can arbis use skull tattos? or are these considered too out of norm?

In the face, mainly

[celest dome]

There are no precedent saying they're not allowed

[brazen terrace]

Ok, nice

[arctic talon]

Wouldn’t be seen as abnormal

Tbh

[radiant lance]

It's 40k standard to use human skulls if you want to be scary

[brazen terrace]

Allright, nice nice

[opaque coyote]

Or even for not scary things

I swear I bet beds in the Imperium have skull ornaments

I'm pretty sure the only reason why Khorne hates the Emperor is because he thinks the Emperor is trying to out-skull him

[opaque coyote]

Also due to me finally getting a new PC that can run Darktide without wanting to fucking die

I made an Arbite character with a skull tattoo

Was gonna name him either "Judge-Death" or "Death"

But thought that it was too on the nose even for 40k so I chose Aeacus

One of the Judges of the Dead in Greek myth

Also apparently means Lamentation

[crisp heath]

You may have the same issue my arbite karl gets smh I named him karl like Carl from aqua teen hunger force ... my dogs name is meatwad aswell but I keep getting
Karl urban?

https://tenor.com/view/athf-aqua-teen-hunger-force-carl-adult-swim-headache-gif-18357315

[storm jungle]

hell no

[languid meadow]

Get it

[celest dome]

Are they all Godzilla ?

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

I haven't seen any Godzilla movie in ages

[storm jungle]

go watch Shin Godzilla and Minus One

[languid meadow]

Top left is Godzilla minus one
Bottom left is Godzilla like the og
And the right one is shin Godzilla

[storm jungle]

also that yeah

extremely good movies

[languid meadow]

So peak

[storm jungle]

also the rare 3 where Godzilla is treated like a monster/disaster

[queen laurel]

Minus one RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

GENUINELY PEAK

[languid meadow]

Final battle lives rent free in my head

[queen laurel]

that one was awesome

[opaque coyote]

"Hm. I really hate this Japanese guy. I'm gonna ruin his life."

• Minus One Godzilla

[dapper gyro]

Legendary Godzilla feels like a sad overworked actor nowadays.

[queen laurel]

thank goodness godzilla is quite a flexible character

[crystal forum]

😔

[sour hornet]

m-my goat... is washed...

[sour hornet]

I love Nenio

Especially when she grilled Daeran on his attraction to anthro fox girls

[median star]

me everytime im not playing a genocidal imperial empire in stellaris thinking about how easy my current situation would be if i was

[sour hornet]

WOTR was great

[sour hornet]

I literally have not done it yet for this reason

[median star]

i was peaceful plant people once and

then the prikki tikki happened

[arctic talon]

Sometimes I free the Prikki Tikki so I can give them a taste of their own medicine

Or I turn them into bio trophies

Mandatory pampering

[crisp heath]

The prikki tikki?

[arctic talon]

Stellaris preset empire who are trapped on a shielded world, you can ignore them, fix the shielded world, or release them

They’re a democratic blood cult genocidal empire

[crisp heath]

Unleash the prikki tikki

[arctic talon]

Anyways they got trapped on that world for a reason lol

[raven stone]

If anyone is in the UK
Can you confirm if Deviantart and Pixiv are being weird (possibly due to being asked to comply with UKs…stupid…laws)?
Or is my temporary connection just too crappy for image heavy sites?

[arctic talon]

But if you free them you can kill em, or do other horrific things to them. Or you can forcibly change their culture, ect. lol

[crisp heath]

Enslave the prikki tikki?

Serves em right

[arctic talon]

Enslave? I was thinking nerve stapling them and using them as live stock

But sure

[crisp heath]

Well that also is fitting

[arctic talon]

I’ve been on a rogue servitor binge recently

So turning them into bio trophies is also hilarious

Too bad, you’re living a life of luxury dependent on a robot forever now

[crisp heath]

I love playing the evil overlord charecter in these kind of games

[arctic talon]

Rogue servitors are like creepy lol

They’re not malicious

But they’re very creepy imo

[crisp heath]

Yeah I had to Google em but I agree

[arctic talon]

Mandatory pampering

The whole, bio trophies live in a utopia situation entirely dependent on their robot caretakers lol

[median star]

one game i had i freed them but they were stuck behind a fallen empire so they kept just suicide rushing the falling empire and their whole shit kept falling apart reforming and doing the same thing over and over again

[crisp heath]

There kinda like those necrons that just uh cut things open and play mad science right?

[crisp heath]

Eternal war

[arctic talon]

Lmfao

[arctic talon]

Yeah there’s a few origins/traits/acension paths/crisis paths that play into it

Synthetic fertility origin is very necron coded

The robotic ascension lets you essentially do bio transference

[median star]

one of my favorites is the play as radical industrialist rock people who live on radioactive worlds w radiotropic perk so just move to a new planet turn it into radioactive shit hole that no one but us can live on and dont have to consume energy anymore

eat a lot of rocks tho

[arctic talon]

aside from rogue servitors and cybernetic tech rush playthroughs

[crisp heath]

Is it true that even if they did achieve bio transference they would most like destroy what ever they did and just keep doing what there doing

[arctic talon]

I really really really like Overtuned

Just from a thematic standpoint overtuned is really cool when paired with bio ascension and the whole mutagenic spa stuff

[arctic talon]

The Necrons would have started the war in heaven for another reason if the old ones gave them immortality

They were a violent, hostile, stratified and expansionist empire

[median star]

you can also sometimes make psychic cyborgs but its a little tricky to force

[arctic talon]

Also needlessly cruel
To their own people

[arctic talon]

You can make psionic robots with an event lol

[surreal nest]

Stellaris always sounds so fun but its so scary

[arctic talon]

Hopefully the shroud changes let you do it consistently

Because the shaper of clay is cool

[arctic talon]

It’s a ton to learn tbh

[crisp heath]

I suck at Stellaris

[median star]

i still have no clue at all how to play crusdaer kings even tho iv heard theyre similar

[crisp heath]

I'm not even really good at tw

[surreal nest]

I was about to say the same thing lol i love total war but its not for me

I lowk wish total war was a grand strategy game and not an RTS

[crisp heath]

Like the campaign especially I never know where to leave my armies

[arctic talon]

Overtuned can get you some fucked up stuff as well lol

Since the traits all have age penalties

[crisp heath]

I always recruit too much and starve my kingdom lmao

[arctic talon]

You can have 8 year old scientists

[surreal nest]

All I want it to play skaven and build under cities

[arctic talon]

And leaders dying at 20 lol

[crisp heath]

Then my freind has finished the medieval 2 campaign like 7 times as like most of the nation's

[median star]

another reason i like the rock ppl in stellaris they just live longer naturally

[arctic talon]

Technically they don’t

Sometimes

They tend to start older as well

But sometimes you hit the jackpot lol

[green loom]

The newest beta fixes that apparently

[opaque coyote]

mfw the Necrontyr were somehow crueler than humanity

Like actually, how the fuck did they beat us?

A small part of me kinda wants a War in Heaven Table Top.

But I know that wouldn't be good for multiple reasons. It would be restricting, hard to do right, etc.

At the same time it does sound fun to imagine Necrons lead by a prime C'Tan vs Krorks and Eldar

Also no humans

Definite bonus

[celest dome]

Watch them introduce humanity in the War in heaven

[sour hornet]

So based

[crisp heath]

Whos closest related to the old ones would it be Eldar?

[queen laurel]

orks and eldar are the last remnants of the works of old ones

[crisp heath]

Oh so they made the Eldar like they made the krorks

Neat thanks

[celest dome]

They didn't make the Eldar, but they uplifted them iirc

[queen laurel]

yeah that seems to be the case

[crisp heath]

One more thing , the old ones is there anything on them that we know? I feel like they might be a nod to Lovecraft?

They seem very eldritchy

[queen laurel]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Old_Ones

READ

[storm jungle]

Old Ones is literally a thing from Lovecraft yeah + them being space frogs

[crisp heath]

Ok

[misty vector]

ahh so the krork were made in the closing days of the war?

[queen laurel]

yep as one last vain they created the most self sufficient killing machines and war mongers the Galaxy has ever seen

thanks old ones for not installing an off switch

[crisp heath]

The first meeting between a orc and a human is pretty funny

[median star]

and jokareo smh

[queen laurel]

that too but they're quite a background lore, oh and humans

[median star]

i thought the human one was kind of just a theory

[storm jungle]

its not

[queen laurel]

that one is true

[median star]

think the watchers in the dark couldve also been made by them or nah

[storm jungle]

It basically adds nothing to what they are or do so nah

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-old-republic-swtor-jawa-jawas-gif-23305428

[median star]

also are their any notable campaigns that the nightlords had towards xenos or were they only used against humans for their specialization in terror tactics and sadism

[storm jungle]

They kill and terrorize anyone.

As for specific campaigns idk google it

theres like tons onf the wiki lol

[median star]

do you think theyd see it as beneath them to even take "trophies" for their armor from a xeno in the same way they do to humans

[storm jungle]

As ever

there isnt a universal rule for the entirety of the night lords as a legion

they do what they want and take any trophies they want lol

[dapper gyro]

SM legions were so big and can operate independently with their own logistic and sub specializations that it is really hard to say anything.

Like, crimson fist and black templar are both from IF, but those 3 are very different from each other. (Maybe less CF and IF, but BT definitely is).

[celest willow]

yall ever noticed how weird ogryn skeletons are

they are just oversized human skeletons like surprisingly normal

[surreal nest]

Black Templar's original fluff is a social commentary on how stupid white nerdy men are

[queen laurel]

that's the point?

what about it

[storm jungle]

I really wouldnt call them "surprisingly normal"

they are literally enlarged/gigantic lol

[celest willow]

but they retain a normal human skeleton

[storm jungle]

I mean yes? They are human

[celest willow]

and I find that weird bc that means they are forced to stay hunched back

[storm jungle]

they just have a big form of gigantism

[surreal nest]

I really dont understand how ogryns are considered abhuman but im assuming its just a political thing for the imperium

[queen laurel]

yeah they evolved that way

[celest willow]

ok but from a biological perspective they should be in constant back pain

[surreal nest]

Aren't they just humans adapted to high gravity worlds?

[storm jungle]

They got what is essentially hyper-gigantism, which is technically a mutation even IRL

[celest willow]

they just have normal human skeleton while their bodies are forced to be hunched back

[storm jungle]

the planets still mutated them and they are beyond whats considered "normal" as the Imperium basically follow the nazi rule of "you look weird, you are a freak"

[storm jungle]

Its 40k, doesnt matter.

[surreal nest]

Ok true

[celest willow]

yeah but I think it is pretty interesting nonetheless

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[queen laurel]

why are you concerned about back pain in a setting where a giant red demon can slice a tank

[celest willow]

what does that mean

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

[celest willow]

biology nerd

[dapper gyro]

Isn't Orgryn engineered to be like that? Hence they are so different from normal humans despite their existence for some 10 thousand years.

[celest willow]

the red demons are cool and all but ogryn biology just seems kinda cool

[storm jungle]

Yeah like we treat people with mutations both basic/extreme as generally normal folks today (unless you are just an asshole person) but the Imperium harkens back to the older times where any physical deviation gets you titled as a freak.

[storm jungle]

Its a mutation, its not engineered.

[median star]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/s/JD767YcMHv

[celest willow]

I know am gonna get burned instantly if I was a imperial citzen(got one elf ear)

[median star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385180267148476466/1406117849780719616/i-got-my-eyes-on-you-watching-you.gif

[storm jungle]

You ironically probably would depending on the imperial lol

[dapper gyro]

Maybe I got something similar from a different fluff.

[surreal nest]

Would it be a possibility that if Catachan survives long enough the humans would have adapted and evolved so bad to surviving the planet they could eventually be a mutated abhuman

[storm jungle]

Considering how human evolution works yes

but that would take a looooong time

[celest willow]

not all mutations are visible

[surreal nest]

Im just thinking about how insane they'd turn out

[storm jungle]

Catachan people at the end of the day are just normal humans with more muscle due to working out + surviving

[queen laurel]

they're humans that got stuck in a high gravity world where resources are scarce and so evolved to be bigger and stronger but became like cavemen in smarts

[dapper gyro]

20-30k ish years is very short for evolution, even if it is with mutation.

[queen laurel]

yes i know high gravity means short

[storm jungle]

Yeah that too, even ogryns existed way earlier than that lol

most ogryn populations pre-date the Imperium

[celest willow]

they also prop evolved chronic back pain so thats funny

[queen laurel]

biological realism seems rather pointless when these are a thing

[storm jungle]

lmao gottem

[median star]

and the orks

the sloth

the hrud

[dapper gyro]

Was there any orgryn on earth during the unification war?

[storm jungle]

probably

[celest willow]

idc I just think it is a interesting thing also you argue the tyranids have some biological realism

[dapper gyro]

Because they would have been a good asset to have, even with the custodes and thunder warriors.

[storm jungle]

they really dont

[celest willow]

pretty sure they where used in the horus heresy

[storm jungle]

this is mostly people searching for realism in places they dont exist

like the fuck does ogryn having backpain have to do with anything

[dapper gyro]

HH happened way after, when many systems were conquered.

[celest willow]

nothing I just think over analyzing stuff is fun

[storm jungle]

No.

[celest willow]

from a irl perceptive

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-angry-speaking-head-tuco-squidward-gif-13808874276609302886

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[celest willow]

the hell are yall so mad over😭

[storm jungle]

whos mad

what lol

[dapper gyro]

Brother, I tried... We can't win...

[storm jungle]

Dein all you do is make old woman jokes and call me a milf, you arent above anyone in here

[queen laurel]

i did not say they have biological realism, i said why bring up back pain because of evolution on a setting where one of the factions makes evolution it's bitch

[near wasp]

What a thing to join chat too

[celest willow]

cause funny

[dapper gyro]

Wtf does it have to do with "above anyone"?

[storm jungle]

Because you say about as weird as hell shit

then act like you are the only mature person here for some reason

[near wasp]

[storm jungle]

Same tbh

[dapper gyro]

Since when am I mature?

[celest willow]

wait dilara how old even are you?

[storm jungle]

31

im older than like almost everyone here i think

[near wasp]

Bro do not ask a lady that

[celest willow]

I thought you where 17 ;-;

[near wasp]

Have you no tack

[storm jungle]

the fuck

[celest willow]

ay lady to lady smh

[near wasp]

Ok it's not a wrong assumption to assume almost any person in a Warhammer 40k chat is a guy

[dapper gyro]

To be gender neutral, all of you, and me, will be "it".

[storm jungle]

I mean it isnt

[celest willow]

so far I have met 4 woman here (including myself)

[near wasp]

Sound about right

[storm jungle]

Thats kinda more on this server and its environment i think

most other 40k servers are uh

[near wasp]

There is a statically anomalous amount of women here

[vagrant fox]

back in my day when warhammer wasn't woke only proper manly lads enjoyed warhammer 🙏 😔

[queen laurel]

what back in the pygmy stormboyz days?

[vagrant fox]

yeah the good old days

There were rumours that women played tyranids but I didn't believe it

[celest willow]

people trying not to be incels around sister of battle fan art

[storm jungle]

More like around any female 40k characters tbh

(bonus points for ones that arent also white)

[queen laurel]

people have sexualised tyranids, that is nothing

[vagrant fox]

Try bringing up eliminating sororitas boob armour in those circles it's very funny

[queen laurel]

anything related to gender and warhammer just sticks huh

[dapper gyro]

GSC...

[queen laurel]

female marine custodes, sob

damn loners

[vagrant fox]

Absolutely, I was thinking about buying some sob and I don't like boob plate at all and the backlash I got was a shitstorm
It was very funny in hindsight tbf

[celest willow]

funny thing is most of war hammer is stupidly over sexualized so i dont really care, I just think it looks dumb in the official art (the minis work tho)

[queen laurel]

i swear if it's a warhammer gender related thing it's always beef on site

[dapper gyro]

This is why if you want to goon, go full goon with the assassins in latex.

Both men and women

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I'm just not a fan. I can get the implications behind the ecclesiarchy making sure others know they don't have "men" at arms and how sexualized things can get in general but it's just not for me

yeah the assassinorum is made for it, go wild

make them caked up

[queen laurel]

Assassins that are more effective to be girls because the drug they are using works better on girls

That is just pure setup right there I'm not even gonna lie

This is just like asking for it at this point I can't even say anything

[dapper gyro]

But you know, at least the guards look good,. Not sexualized, but still feels badass.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/0/03/MinaMini.jpg

[surreal nest]

Do you analyze any female model with the predisposition that could be sexualized or what man

[storm jungle]

Its really not.

40k has very much gone through an age of de-gooning following 2018 and onwards lol

[queen laurel]

yeah like the way they went with the tithes custodes is actually quite amazing as a character design she's just literally a Greek statue

[surreal nest]

I am just flabbergasted

[queen laurel]

They have gotten much better on that front at least

[surreal nest]

I dont even blame GW for being so cowardly with more realistic depictions of a militant force of women. The community isnt mature enough to fucking handle it

[queen laurel]

GW is a company after all they only gambit when it makes them moolah

[surreal nest]

Fortunately they have reached their conclusion that the actual normal human beings outweigh the insidious chuds in their audience

So they will hopefully keep taking more creative liberties

[golden imp]

I get space marines can’t be women, but aren’t the custodes hand crafted couldn’t the emperor make it so they’d survive the procedure?

I don’t think they’d look feminine anymore though, just a weapon

[storm jungle]

Basically theres no logical explanation behind it, its simply a commercial thing. Space Marines have been men forever so changing that would alienate their main audience.

[queen laurel]

^

[storm jungle]

They deffo would tbh. GW wouldnt do something like that, they'd just look more like amazonian women lol

[golden imp]

Ahh, I get it now

[storm jungle]

also unisex heads/armies sell really well

its something GW has been doing a lot

[storm jungle]

the most explanation we got is "the zygotes/science-term-thingies dont work" which is like... its a hyper sci-fi setting, you couldnt figure out swapping choromosomes?? 😭

[celest willow]

I do have a thought dont the space marines get pumped with a bunch of testosterone and other steroids so like all would just come out looking male

this has been in the back of my head for sometime

[storm jungle]

That doesnt matter on the reality of tabletop + people liking male/female heads.

[celest willow]

rule of cool

[storm jungle]

its not rule of cool tbh, its Rule of Commerce

theres a reason almost every mini-range GW has made has female/male heads now

like almost 2 weeks ago with chaos dwarves even lol

[queen laurel]

The gender difference I've also been more pronounced too so that you can really tell

They have been doing their best to make the factions that make sense to be unisex unisex

because they know that **** sells

[storm jungle]

Theres people that get mad when they realise this is a lady squad leader for scions.

We truly live in a society

[dapper gyro]

They removed some of the older female models and make more head change instead.

[storm jungle]

Yeah to come with the kits

[queen laurel]

I literally didn't know she was a girl and I just found out now and my reaction is oh that's cool and then I go back to thinking on how orks are awesome

why can't people just be like that

literal ******* necrons can do it

[storm jungle]

beats me

[dapper gyro]

Catachan Jackson, a female guard sgt, was removed in the 8e I think.

[storm jungle]

She was removed because she was a limited time mini

[celest willow]

custodian yuri when

[vagrant fox]

It is a little strange, but this is the era of internet outrage

[queen laurel]

yeah everyone screams at the top of their lungs like warriors

[dapper gyro]

Oh. I remember that she had special rules as well.

[celest willow]

people will always whine about anything the internet just makes it so that they can do it on a global scale

[dapper gyro]

Now her model is a normal veteran sgt.

[ornate estuary]

Cawl spent 10000 years fixing the emperor's rush job and didn't bother making them unisex to increase the pool of potential Aspirants by 50%. Is he stupid?

[vagrant fox]

yea

[storm jungle]

Look

we cannot upset the marine fanbase

they are whiny as it is

we will reach meltdown levels

[ornate estuary]

[queen laurel]

it will literally exterminate 40K stocks

I am not kidding

Marines make up a large part of their fan base to the point that it's basically GW own money factory

[dapper gyro]

SM line makes the most money. Too risky for their income.

[vagrant fox]

I don't particularly want female space marines, not because women are icky mind you, but my reaction would be a most powerful ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dapper gyro]

More than half of 40K is SM.

[queen laurel]

To be fair you won't be even able to tell a space marina's woman if they are wearing full armor because of how bulky the damn thing is

[ornate estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-north-money-icananswerthat-formoney-gif-13234646

[surreal nest]

Which miniature would you pick the highly detailed new GSC sculpt or the tactical rock AoS marine

[storm jungle]

they are both pretty good tbh

[vagrant fox]

You'd hardly be able to tell I reckon, yeah. I'd rather more focus be shifted on to other factions

[celest willow]

most space marine player I see like the helmet on so I dont think it will matter at all

[queen laurel]

they are both pretty good really

[surreal nest]

The AoS isnt bad but comparably is crazy

[storm jungle]

also idk why people still call Stormcasts marines

they are way more humanoid and less squat looking lol

[dapper gyro]

Because

[surreal nest]

Its just because of the marketing

[storm jungle]

I mean that marketing is older than most people on this server

[surreal nest]

Theyre just the equivalent by brand recognition

[storm jungle]

ehhh

they were once, they are not really now

[queen laurel]

to be fair calling a stormcast marines is like an insult it's like comparing a group of good people to hitler

[celest willow]

idk why but somehow I dont believe that

[storm jungle]

I mean you dont have to. It has.

40k's main audience for marketing is teenagers/kids

[celest willow]

kids?

[storm jungle]

evne if the entire hobby is largely adults lol

[storm jungle]

yes?

have you been to a GW store, kids and teens are everywhere lol

[dapper gyro]

Teenage

[queen laurel]

warhammer child books are a thing

one of the kids got vaporized by the way

[golden imp]

Oh god

[celest willow]

they want to market the world with dark eldar, slaanesh and the facist state religion to kids

[dapper gyro]

That one is a little brutal.

[vagrant fox]

Yeah kids love that stuff

[surreal nest]

Starwars

[storm jungle]

You do realise they dont really advertise said things for that reason right

[storm jungle]

Also this

[celest willow]

tbh star wars is more subtle

[storm jungle]

it really isnt

💀

[surreal nest]

No

[dapper gyro]

Starwars is a different can of worm really.

[golden imp]

Women scare the warhammer table top player lol

[celest willow]

it is as subtle as a pepple war hammer is a damn brick

[surreal nest]

Starwars is very heavily leaned towards religious genocide and fascism in fact

[queen laurel]

yes

[golden imp]

I too am also afraid of women, why are they so mean

[storm jungle]

In GW stores the factions in 40k are advertised much more loosely/generally for younger audiences to buy them.

Also idk why people say this, you do realise kids love violence right, so it doesnt matter either way

[celest willow]

yes I have a 8 year old brother these things are monsters

[storm jungle]

Cool, most people still dont

this is literally in GW business reports 💀

which people publicly can read

[vagrant fox]

You do one little misogyny and suddenly the world is blowing up 😔

[near wasp]

my coworkers young kid wants to start painting

[queen laurel]

And the fact that people didn't make a fuss about it means that it's OK

[storm jungle]

THANK YOU

[surreal nest]

Its not like you walk into a warhammer store and they have footage of a religious beheading on their TV you can't really pick up on the idea of a religious fascist empire as a child unless you directly read about it

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^

You get a space marine heroically posing instead

marketing people know what they are doing

[queen laurel]

Also yeah like at the end of the day if they got into the deep deep parts of warhammer like painting it's just literally buying plastic crack

[celest willow]

yeah I get that but the lore really isnt for kids

[storm jungle]

why do you think in most 40k artwork when factions are clashing no one is explicitly dying or is simply dying with a simple gun blast with no gore added?

[ornate estuary]

I think the thing with the Custodes all comes down to you can't tell whether they are male or female inside or outside the armor. They are all so changed by the flesh shapers that they just come out looking male. Which tbh would probably trigger the fan base even more than just saying there are female Custodes.

[celest willow]

12+ at best

[vagrant fox]

Kids can deal with some proper dark stuff fine, give them a little as a treat

[queen laurel]

yeah but you have to go really really deep to see the bad stuff like

[surreal nest]

Neither is starwars however

[queen laurel]

really deep

[surreal nest]

Yknow

Disneyland

[near wasp]

just aviod slanesh or dark eldar and youll be fine

[queen laurel]

or expose the goth kids to them

[storm jungle]

Tbh that argument has proven false months ago now

• Custodians are hand-crafted to be essentially big statue-esque greek warriors, theres no hormonal adrenal gland or uglification thing going on.
• We also see a femtodes in the Tithes animation and she looks relatively pretty attractive for a 10ft amazon woman

[near wasp]

when i was young i used to read creepypasta

[surreal nest]

You can walk around at disneyland and your child can wave at the soldiers who blast children with laser beams

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I need to make a clip of like

kids joking around with stormtroopers

then intercut it with the Ghorman Massacre

[celest willow]

I wana do that

[storm jungle]

[surreal nest]

I would cry

[queen laurel]

i watched and consume slasher movies like they were candy when I was a kid

friday the 13th stuff like that you name it

[ornate estuary]

Ahh didn't know that was a thing. 👍

[storm jungle]

🫡

[celest willow]

eh I still cant see war hammer becoming that kid friendly

[near wasp]

yeah, as much as i protest kids learning 40k its gonna happen so might as well curate what they see

[storm jungle]

It doesnt matter though

again, kids love violent stuff

they dont need to see the lore to get this stuff

its always tabletop first

[queen laurel]

Why do you think it's popular to grab spiders and make them kill each other for our entertainment when we were kids

[surreal nest]

"Protest kids learning 40k". Somebody left their catholic grandpa on their discord account

[celest willow]

true

[dapper gyro]

Well, if you focus on the rule of cool, it is for kids. If you go deeper, then it is for adults.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-evil-laugh-gif-552422362738412647

[queen laurel]

and again warhammer has literal books for children

[storm jungle]

most kids tbh

[queen laurel]

they know how to ease them into the setting

even if the setting has one of them getting vaporized

[crisp heath]

I got into warhammer at like 10

[ornate estuary]

I should clarify, I knew the first thing. Not about the animation.

[crisp heath]

My freinds started playing and then I eventually ended up at the store

[celest willow]

Escape of Commorragh- part 2😍

[dapper gyro]

The newer editions are aiming for a wider audience.

[near wasp]

ah yes how dare i think kids shouldnt get into the franchise that is so dark planets die as a footnote

[celest willow]

||not a real book||

[surreal nest]

Ok so starwars

[storm jungle]

Gomorrah is from IRL of course its not real