#40k-lore-chat

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celest dome
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Oh if they're zealotous, well, then used as pawn to mount suicide attacks or being made to work grueling tasks

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Or slaughtered cause they're too rigid and dangerous to use

nova scaffold
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on the bright side atlease they are loyal to the emperor after a 80% casualty

calm frost
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Is this the first time the pseudoliteral raptors of Fire Warrior have been made legit

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I think it is

storm jungle
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What?

lusty kettle
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Words

celest dome
arctic talon
winged jacinth
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have jetpack
blessed to grow wings
they're not usable and you still need the jetpack

arctic talon
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Blame the raptor god

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Smh

winged jacinth
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what if the raptor god is like, velociraptors and the jetpack thing is a complete coincidence

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those are dino arms

storm jungle
crisp heath
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Wait did they preview the one that's set to release after the next box I'm confused here

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I'm seriously considering getting some votan staregryn

arctic talon
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GW was fucked if they revealed it fucked if they don't

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lol

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This is like

crisp heath
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Oh

arctic talon
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as bad as the world eater leak

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if not worse

crisp heath
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oh no

arctic talon
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I'd make a joke about spain always leaking shit

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but thats not even a joke at this point thats just reality

crisp heath
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(I don't know anything about the we leak)

arctic talon
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Angron + new zerkers + jugger lord

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all got leaked

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like almost a year

crisp heath
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I stopped playing around 5e

arctic talon
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ahead of time and GW was pissed

winged jacinth
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thats gotta hurt

crisp heath
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Oof

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Yeah that has got to hurt

arctic talon
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GW seems annoyed this time

winged jacinth
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the other two you could kinda suck up but man getting angron spoiled a year ahead

queen laurel
arctic talon
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since they're not nearly as passive aggresive

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as they were when angron got leaked

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lol

golden imp
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Game stores in Spain or just random people there?

crisp heath
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You think there gonna get lawyers involved?

summer mural
winged jacinth
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is there a games workshop spain subsidiary? if so maybe? otherwise no probably not

arctic talon
summer mural
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eh?

arctic talon
summer mural
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oh

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what was it

arctic talon
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its how all the previous spanish leaks occured

winged jacinth
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if GW isnt already retaining a spanish legal team i doubt they'll bother building one for this

winged jacinth
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i can see them stopping tests in spain though lol

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NO MORE TOYS

queen laurel
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literally in the reveal

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they do not like their suprises leaking

arctic talon
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This boxed set won’t be coming for a while yet – there’s more coming for Kill Team in the interim which has yet to be revealed – and we’ll have a look into the new kill teams when we get closer to its intended reveal date.

summer mural
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that seems much more obvious

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yeah definitely shade

arctic talon
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The Angron one had like 10x more shade and was super passive aggresive lol

arctic talon
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lol

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which makes it good to source testers from

queen laurel
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then there's the vampires

arctic talon
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Why did they group those 3 together lmao

summer mural
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because they only got 2 stars

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thats the fate you get if you recieve 2 out of 5

arctic talon
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LOL

arctic talon
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but yeah the 2 biggest leaks in 40k history were both thought to be fake

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which is the funniest shit ever

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same with AoS

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AoS with the total rescaling of stormcast and the entire Kruleboyz range also the Idoneth leak

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and 40k with the Primaris leak in 6e and the 9e codex leak getting every single release and codex 100% correct

winged jacinth
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i think as a reward once my life is no longer consumed in a week i might buy a killteam box and some paints

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i havent painted minis in like 15 years

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tau right after fish of fury got killed

winged jacinth
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i have no real interest in playing the game itself again but i would like some cool minis

winged jacinth
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and killteam means you get a small number of indiviually cool minis you can dedicate some effort to

arctic talon
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yeah

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KT is really fun since you can put so much effort in each one

winged jacinth
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painting whole squads of infantry Servoskull

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at least i didnt play guard

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i started with lizardmen which are honestly a great starter for painting since they're so simple to start with

arctic talon
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the art for KT typhon is still funny as shit lol, the servitor just having this blank expression

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as its about to get mauled to death

winged jacinth
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the only "advanced" technique you need for painting lizardmen is drybrushing

arctic talon
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so many textures

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tbh

arctic talon
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yeah

crisp heath
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So cool 😎

arctic talon
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but the original primaris leaks were funny

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everyone thought they were fake as shit

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(they weren't)

crisp heath
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Why does the one in training look so much cooler

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They take those vows of silence iirc

arctic talon
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lol

crisp heath
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He was in the Lucius ep of hammer and bolter

winged jacinth
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why does he have a machine gun for an arm

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evil dead ass

arctic talon
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combat servitor doesn't need an arm

winged jacinth
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oh i thought someone said that was a chaplain in training

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i had some other questions too lol

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like "why would you send someone to fight tyranid warriors without at least their power armor lol"

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or is that a lictor

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regardless

arctic talon
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Its a ravener yeah

crisp heath
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Oh no I was talking about the grey model a bit above

winged jacinth
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power armor may be cheese to a tyranid scythe but it at least makes you faster

crisp heath
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It's not a ravanor?

winged jacinth
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nah the mouth

crisp heath
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He looks like he's got the ravenor body mb

winged jacinth
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i guess it could be a ravenor?

crisp heath
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It's the way he's standing I think

winged jacinth
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the head is wrong for either

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it looks like its got a leg

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but lictors have mind flayer tentacle mouths afaik even the deathleaper

crisp heath
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Oop ot didn't show the rest

winged jacinth
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ooh theres models i wasnt aware of

rocky gale
winged jacinth
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thats a hell of a lot like top left ravener

crisp heath
winged jacinth
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blame relic for only having one model for every enemy type KEKW_ogryn

celest dome
rocky gale
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Like Redtalon is the lowest rung of Ghoul and Ushoran Knights him, feeds him his blood and implies he'll be granted a position of higher nobility when their castle is reclaimed

crystal forum
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what is the servitor's kill team?

arctic talon
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Sorry it’s a ravanor

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I’m stupid

arctic talon
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Aka 9 lobotomites and 2 tech priests

crystal forum
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what

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why

arctic talon
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It was released in KT typhon

winged jacinth
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thats probably not an unusual mechanicus detachment

crystal forum
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are there many servitor fans out there

arctic talon
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Why not

arctic talon
celest dome
arctic talon
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People loved this box

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wtf lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Not real admech enjoyers smh

winged jacinth
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servitors are cool

celest dome
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Nah its a great one

arctic talon
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Servitors are cool

winged jacinth
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combat cyborgs (awful)

crystal forum
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i want a skitarii box instead

summer mural
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only servitors with plasma guns are cool

celest dome
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But still would have preferred a full Tech Priest one to receive new Tech Priest models

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We have enough Skitarii

winged jacinth
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JC denton I Never Asked For This but its a quiet sad whisper from your autocannon servitor

celest dome
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And I say that as someone who love my skit

crystal forum
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never enough skitarii

winged jacinth
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i guess as long as the skitarri limit their arsenal to the less uh, irradiating examples i imagine they could field as infantry escorts

queen laurel
summer mural
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oh those

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that thing is human

winged jacinth
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tfw we cant figure out how to keep computers dumb but its easy enough to stick rods into peoples heads

summer mural
celest dome
winged jacinth
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it would be a really funny development (that we dont have the timescale for) if the imperium accidentally men of irons again by vat growing increasingly effective brains for cogitation lol

queen laurel
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It's volunteer recruitment

winged jacinth
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biles new men show up only to find they've been superceded by the scientists from old world blues

queen laurel
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By propaganda

summer mural
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do admech have like their own school like schola

celest dome
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Classic admech

summer mural
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where they actually train tech priests

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or tech marines

winged jacinth
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"wifi? sign me up!"
"ok but get in the robot first"

celest dome
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Isn't really explored much

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But probably

celest dome
winged jacinth
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mars seems to have a dedicated educational system for techmarines etc

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everyone else seems to get raised in the faith on their forge world of birth

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we should get more lore there

summer mural
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they should get like, omnissiah guardsmen so the guard regiments have their own mars engineers

celest dome
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Like low grade Skitarii ?

winged jacinth
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they should have like, imperial china style exams where if you score really well as a kid you get to be a tech priest and if you dont you get to operate the hydraulic press for 30 years then die

summer mural
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not skitarii, I just mean a guardsmen version of techmarine

celest dome
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Enginseer ?

winged jacinth
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theres plenty of tech-adepts and stuff to field with the guard

summer mural
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they go from their company, get trained to be tech expert then get sent back

celest dome
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That's an Enginseer

winged jacinth
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techmarines only exist because the space marines wont operate with actual envoys of mars

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they want their shit all internal

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the guard does not have the choice or the logistical option

celest dome
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Oh well the Enginseer (défacto equivalent for the Techmarines) are Tech Priest first amd foremost)

winged jacinth
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yeah techmarines are an ancient carveout

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and even then they still have to get ordained

celest dome
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And get those psycho indoctrination

winged jacinth
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i'd love to see some exploration of techmarine beliefs

celest dome
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And they're not Tech Priest

winged jacinth
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since most of the chapters are imperial truthers what does that make them think of the omnissiah?

celest dome
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They're never treated as higher than Tech Adept

celest dome
summer mural
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yeah engineer have the uh

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like the tech priest dialect

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enginseer*

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and they wear the robes too i think

winged jacinth
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maybe im misremembering how well the truth survived in successor chapters

summer mural
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memenissiah

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bunch of them are creed lovers

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also they dont seem to debate it too much, its mostly for the emperor nonstop

winged jacinth
summer mural
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oh dear.

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il admit, thats hilarious

winged jacinth
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who made this image why is the list there twice

summer mural
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a space marine sitting in their room, with their walkman listening to Creed

winged jacinth
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it took me a sec because arms wide open is the only creed song i know at all

summer mural
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my sacrifice is a decent one

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its no8 in the list

winged jacinth
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im sure they have some good songs, no one sticks around that long being actually bad

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for instance nickleback is the archetypical meme band and they've got some decent tracks

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casualty of the butt rock era

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and they have not moved on

summer mural
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nickelback has some decent tracks, problem is its really generic to listen to sometimes

winged jacinth
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yeah they were never super unique and they primarily operated at the ABSOLUTE peak of that style

summer mural
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creed has better guitar work, its more experimental compared to nickelback

winged jacinth
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but i think Photograph is a nice song

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rockstar and how you remind me are fun slop songs

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rockstar is actually so fucking funny

summer mural
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although despite being memecentral, nickelback did alright for themsleves you know KEKW_ogryn

winged jacinth
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the guy from zz top doing adlibs and saying "I'll have the quesadilla... hehehe"

summer mural
winged jacinth
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oh i imagine they're insanely rich

summer mural
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lullaby is def my fav nickelback song, I find it superior to the rest

celest dome
winged jacinth
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and they're not ridiculed in their homeland of canada

summer mural
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i dont dislike it either

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its just gotten boring

winged jacinth
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god now im thinking about the rockstar adlibs even more that song is so funny

summer mural
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also chad kroeger looked his visual best in the lullaby video, because he had short hair and it looked dope

winged jacinth
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WE ALL JUST WANNA BE BIG ROCK STARS
AND LIVE IN HILLTOP HOUSES
DRIVING 15 CARS

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you cant drive 15 cars chad

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even if you own 15 cars you probably wont drive them all

summer mural
summer mural
winged jacinth
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the music video being a combination of celebrities, hot babes, and random people on the street

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amazing

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the bridge was real af

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by far the best line though

summer mural
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best nickelback song imo

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just the intro is 🔥

crystal forum
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nickelback were explicit about only doing it for the money

arctic talon
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Vat grown don’t work for breachers somehow

summer mural
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youd think the eversor temple had a shortage

arctic talon
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Destroyers usually use genebulked vat grown

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Normally

arctic talon
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Since they just need an adult who’s a violent psycho

crystal forum
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sign me up

arctic talon
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Alright just need to carve your brain up

summer mural
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breachers are okay as a unit

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I personally like the skitarii mounted units more

arctic talon
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Dif roles

winged jacinth
summer mural
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sydarius? cydarius? sydonia?

arctic talon
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Breachers are a heavy firepower/cqb unit

summer mural
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the guys that ride the ostritch looking things

winged jacinth
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knights of sidonia???

arctic talon
winged jacinth
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oh i love the lore for the ironstriders

summer mural
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serberys

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yeah

winged jacinth
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"we dont know how to turn them back on so dont ever turn them off"

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they keep them on treadmills for storage lmao

summer mural
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I also like the skitarii have thing going on with just like..revolvers everywhere

crystal forum
summer mural
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mechanicum of mars are just like " we need suitable sidearms for our tech army'
" I know....REVOLVERS"

winged jacinth
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i dunno how i have space in my brain for 40k stuff i've had to memorize these since yesterday

crystal forum
summer mural
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yeah ik

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but its just funny that they got gunslingers

winged jacinth
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revolvers have one real advantage that really only comes into play with grenades which is round selection

winged jacinth
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if you're shooting bullets round selection is stupid and inefficient and probably doesnt make sense to do but if you've got grenades with a variety of payloads...

winged jacinth
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this is just one day of reactions too you dont even want to see my full index

crystal forum
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people will see you shoot beams of cosmic rays and say
"hark! he does not have the technology for a self loading pistol!"

winged jacinth
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not including the 20 reactions in the newly sorted index

summer mural
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does the imperium have like

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large supplies of wood

winged jacinth
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yeah

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they're usually localized though people arent shipping it long distance mostly

summer mural
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seems like its a available resource, but its just weird that they have tonnes of wood with half the places being irradiated wastelands

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i doubt someones going around planting trees either

winged jacinth
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a bunch of the hellworlds are jungle hellworlds

summer mural
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yeah

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but do they get uh

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farmed?

winged jacinth
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tanith was a source of finewood until it got blown up

summer mural
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also isnt their parchment not made from paper pulp

winged jacinth
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yeah theres lumber planets if they've got sufficiently useful native trees

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parchment is typically made from animal skin iirc

crystal forum
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human skin

winged jacinth
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humans is animals 🙂

summer mural
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gottem

crystal forum
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clearly not a biology major

winged jacinth
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but yeah parchment is basically writing on untanned hide

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vellum is nice parchment

summer mural
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I wonder if theyd use windows 11 if they had it

winged jacinth
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silica abominus

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even if it doesnt think its still abominable

crystal forum
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mechanicus uses windows 95

winged jacinth
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11s actually not terrible but im pissed about the rollout

summer mural
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also does the imperium have like, a super mega corporation thats tied to the government ofc

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and a super rich dude running it

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whos a government crony of course

winged jacinth
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they're feudal

crystal forum
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not the modern idea of a megacorp

winged jacinth
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they dont need to be a shady megacorp they're a lord of terra

storm jungle
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like ones that make groundcars or some aircraft, weapons etc

crystal forum
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it's a lot of privately owned noble companies i've seen

storm jungle
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^ yeah this

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they can have a ton of power but it will always be generally local or system based at best

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but nothing is usually stopping them form expanding trade

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it just is always kinda under the eye of the mechanicus and some other local powers

summer mural
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like some noble who owns 1000 vineyards across 2 star systems I guess

winged jacinth
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i assumed they were asking about an interstellar corporation but i dont think any exist that extend farther than like, a single rogue trader territory

summer mural
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where he gets his vintage wine

crystal forum
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like rogue traders could lead vast mercantile empires in star systems

winged jacinth
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a rogue trader IS kinda like a megacorp

summer mural
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well that is true actually

crystal forum
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it's just not the modern idea of a corporation

storm jungle
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Not quite

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Rogue Traders are Privateers in space

winged jacinth
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no board or nothing, no

storm jungle
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they dont really run corporations more just trading-empires usually

summer mural
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I guess a rogue trader is your super rich private person archetype in centralized economy type guy

storm jungle
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Yeah that too, but they are largely based on awful conquistadors and british privateers

winged jacinth
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theres really no reason to have a corporation in 40k you dont need a board of investors in a feudal society

storm jungle
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aka you got a warrant go exploit and make us money

crystal forum
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40k has merchants not businessmen afaik

storm jungle
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They can have em

storm jungle
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family businesses are very much a thing

winged jacinth
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thats not a corporation

storm jungle
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you cannot really stamp these out either, again depends on the planet

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it is

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literally most corps spawn from family businesses

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theres outright mention of local corps on some worlds lol

winged jacinth
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yeah but incorporating is a thing you have to do

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i gotta commute

summer mural
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wait so like, rogue traders cover the costs of maintaining their own ship and machines and stuff right

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or does the imperium pay for it

storm jungle
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I dont think most of the writers care about the semantics of what a "corporation" means

crystal forum
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it just can't be like a dystopian megacorp with a CEO and a board of executives and blah blah blah

storm jungle
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its big company

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big money

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big slave labor

summer mural
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probably huge taxes

crystal forum
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imperium isn't usually in the habit of paying back

summer mural
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okay lets say it was brahms but she was never affiliated with grendyl , and she had the mourningstar and its crew

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for example

storm jungle
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She'd largely pay out of her own pocket

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or whatever money her House/family makes

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or try to abuse her authority on a shipping yard which is a 50/50 unless you promise them some sort of payment

crystal forum
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rogue traders are private entrepreneurs

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they have a lot of freedoms but they're on their own

storm jungle
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Also going back to corporations

crystal forum
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it's not like an inquisitor which could call on the power of the state for support

storm jungle
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Twisted Helix basically spawned from a planet-spanning pharma corporation string of families

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so theres not really a solid rule on what kinda corporation you can run, its 40k

summer mural
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well there cant be

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if there was any realism to this economy from what im gathering itd collapse in a day

storm jungle
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So influential have these complexes become -- and the dynastic corporations that rule over them -- that everywhere the Vejovian skyline is ridged with enormous medifactoria. These appear, when viewed from the hive aristocracy's spires, like the laboratory of some godly sage -- spiral glass pipelines and chimneys belch strangely-coloured smoke alongside vast alembic structures and cooling towers. Given the influence they have over the lives and even anatomies of the populace, the divine comparison is an apt one.

crystal forum
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i just think it can't be a modern cyberpunk megacorp since it clashes with the 40k aesthetic

storm jungle
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nobdoy wants to delve into modern logistics

summer mural
storm jungle
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if corpos exist they exist

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dont think about the details

storm jungle
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40k's aesthetic is "put arches and skulls on everything"

summer mural
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it is a tad weird

storm jungle
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the setting also has a ton of cyberpunk elements

summer mural
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but it can work

crystal forum
crystal forum
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i think it does

storm jungle
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thats also not an enforced thing

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I mean you can think, its not the case

crystal forum
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nothing is enforced im not saying there's a gun to your head

storm jungle
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a planet is left to rule whatever or how it wants including its top class as long as it meets the tithe requirements

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so like yeah lol

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other ways of making profit are also plenty

crystal forum
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but like why work with the 40k setting if you'll flat out ignore the setting's aesthetics

summer mural
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also, I imagine no private corp is supplying like, bullets and bandages to the imperium right, they make everything themselves

storm jungle
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What aeshtetic

crystal forum
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gothic medieval shit

storm jungle
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literally nothing matters as long as you put arches and skulls on shit lol

celest dome
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Depend on the world

storm jungle
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if the setting stuck to that it would never move past rogue trader

celest dome
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Certain are medieval coded

storm jungle
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^

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"being medieval" is not a requirement

storm jungle
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weapons, medicine, cars, vehicles etc

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it just has to be overseen by certain branches like the admech

celest dome
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But other worlds are much more modern (Vostroya, Krieg...) and other are also quite further advanced (Elysia for example)

storm jungle
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Yeah ^

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As long as you adhere to a few imperial quotas you can have your world basically be anything with a gothic coat of paint

crystal forum
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they still function with aristocrats, planetary governors, tithes

storm jungle
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Okay and they can still have corporations

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this is literally in the lore

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idk what else t osay

crystal forum
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i didn't say they couldn't

celest dome
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And even the Admech oversight is quite hand off, using local Guilds for the most part

crystal forum
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yeah a guild!!

storm jungle
summer mural
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yeah the settings too diverse, theres literally just old fashioned feudal houses with the knights who have knightly pilgrimages or jousting or whatever and go on mystical pilgrimages with the gundamn theyve mentally bonded to and theres rogue traders

crystal forum
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a guild isn't modern at all

storm jungle
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but yeah corporations can exist, cyberpunk-esque ones especially

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just needs a gothic coat of paint and boom

celest dome
crystal forum
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yeah from like the 1400's

celest dome
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No like active guilds

crystal forum
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but europeans are weird

storm jungle
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Going by that logic most of our practices arent modern

celest dome
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Hey fuck you, you Pseudo American

crystal forum
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will you see a merchant's guild on wall street

celest dome
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We're not weirder than you lot

storm jungle
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I feel like this argument kinda lost the point lol

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but basically yeah anything in 40k can largely exist

crystal forum
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wtf even is a guild

storm jungle
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its dystopian fiction

crystal forum
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it's like the bourgeois version of a union

celest dome
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A guild is an old version of an union
But wait maybe you don't know what that is too clown_hadron

vagrant fox
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Guilds are still around ☝️ 🤓

crystal forum
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unions are modern

celest dome
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They're not that modern tbf

crystal forum
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bruh

storm jungle
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arent they literally from the 18th fucking century

crystal forum
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post industrial revolution is modern

storm jungle
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I mean

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no

celest dome
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I'd accept WW1 as modern at most

crystal forum
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im comparing to guilds here

storm jungle
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Compare deez nu-

crystal forum
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the shit that people did since like ancient egypt

storm jungle
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Next argument

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🗣️

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remove this furball from my office

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hes fired

crystal forum
storm jungle
crystal forum
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nah that sounded like trump to me

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you're fired!!

summer mural
#

I wonder if theres some slaaneshi cult somewhere thats just obsessed with accumulating vast amounts of wealth

crystal forum
#

there are

#

greed is part of slaanesh

outer wave
#

Question: when piloting knights that have only been recently made with no prior pilots, who would the pilot listen to for advice and such?

crystal forum
#

in kingmaker it's implied that ancestors can be ported to new knights

crystal forum
#

the first layer of slaanesh hell in that story about the grey knight has a giant realm full of gold and jewels

outer wave
#

Fuck manuals, we need my ancestors who arent related to me to tell me how to do shit

storm jungle
#

since you ARE the first pilot

outer wave
#

I see I see

#

So its just AI

crystal forum
#

NO

#

NO AI

outer wave
#

I HAVE SOLVED THE MYSTERY OF 40K

summer mural
#

yeah ai is everywhere, COPE HARDER ADMECH

crystal forum
#

kill him quick

#

he cannot escape

queen laurel
outer wave
#

I DIDNT EVEN DO ANYTH--

crystal forum
#

you know too much

summer mural
#

would imperium ai even be intelligent, what if its just artifical dumbassery

#

like the ai awakens and goes " whats that lil chair on terra sucking all that power, shut it down, the guy sitting on it is dead"

crystal forum
#

repentbot 5000
super miserable and hates itself

queen laurel
summer mural
#

yeah but imperium

queen laurel
summer mural
#

do the eldar have ai

storm jungle
#

They did

#

its mostly pre-fall tech

summer mural
#

or are they just against it too

#

right

storm jungle
#

they had robots and shit

storm jungle
#

they DO have like drones and shit but its omstly for minor shit like scouting or whatever

#

mostly so uhhh thye dont steal the tau's gimmick

summer mural
#

dark eldar should have ai

#

they experiment all the time

storm jungle
#

Why have AI

summer mural
#

on everything

storm jungle
#

you can just make a tortured flesh-automaton

#

thats more funny

summer mural
#

i guess they are all under withdrawal avoidance deadline constantly to worry about ai

crystal forum
#

necrons didn't need AI to doom their civilization

#

try harder imperium

summer mural
#

" Hey, we should make an AI , itl really help our wa-"
" QUICK, SHUT THE FUCK UP, I NEED A HIT OF SOMETHING NOWWW"

crystal forum
#

MUST
TORTURE
INFANT

summer mural
#

I do like commoragh

#

I also appreciate someone had the imagination to create it

#

its suitably inventive homebase for dark eldar

#

instead of just giving them generic planet

storm jungle
summer mural
#

or being fleet based

storm jungle
#

relying on a incompetent politician

#

very meta

crystal forum
#

so dystopian

#

thankfully it's fictional

storm jungle
#

Im glad we arent like this IRL

#

and some guys just cant doom our entire species by being stupid

summer mural
crystal forum
#

at least we don't have beings that suck the energy out of everything for their own greed

#

right

summer mural
#

ah

#

never met my mother have you

winter vessel
#

That’s rough

crystal forum
#

energy vampire

summer mural
winter vessel
#

Doubt they’ll get much sustenance out of this

paper haven
#

Probably heresy but I'll allow it

tough haven
#

You’ll probably die if you eat that

#

Or suffer a worse fate

#

A feast

crystal forum
#

grey knights are like the best psyker space marines out there

#

they literally fight demons

tough haven
#

Fuck if I know

#

I just stole it

tough haven
summer mural
#

its weird to me how grey knights are all psykers, but there are no custodian psykers

tough haven
#

He cares not who the psykers are

crystal forum
tough haven
summer mural
#

yeah but like, the logic of all grey knights being psykers is sound, they are elite, all of them being psykers is super useful

#

youd think the custodians would have psykers too

#

its not like they cant manage custodian psykers here and there

#

since the gk can do it

crystal forum
#

nobody knows why the emperor didnt want psyker custodies

summer mural
#

probably insecure

storm jungle
summer mural
#

probably figured theyd be too close to his image in his own mind

#

insecure whiny little shit that he is

crystal forum
#

idk why people exaggerate how hard it would be for grey knights to kill the emp

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they act like the moment a grey knight enters the solar system then literally everybody is their enemy

summer mural
#

dont you just have to like kick the power socket

#

is this about that terminus decree shit

tough haven
crystal forum
#

like a large group of grey knights could easily make their way to the palace

tough haven
crystal forum
#

the problems arrive when they enter

tough haven
#

Yes

#

No one doubts they could reach the palace

crystal forum
#

but i keep seeing memes acting like the solar system navy fleets would obliterate them in a millisecond

summer mural
#

also I guess the idea was that the custodians would be accompanied by sisters of silence usually , so being a psyker is more of a drawback, that actually does make sense

tough haven
#

It’s the army of the finest soldiers specifically trained to kill space marines set to harm the emperor

crystal forum
#

do people forget that grey knights are literally based on titan???

crystal forum
#

as in, inside the fucking solar system

tough haven
#

They just get lore from YouTube shorts and tiktok

storm jungle
#

and it was like

summer mural
#

ah yes, their "secret" massive fortress on titan

tough haven
#

Probably not inside

storm jungle
# storm jungle and it was like

"If the plot requires the GK to go and make the Emperor sit down they'll just do some shit like a super-teleporter we never knew they had before teleport them right into the palace chamber and just accomplish the mission that way"

summer mural
#

LOL

storm jungle
#

idk why people assume the lore matters in comparison to what the writers want to do lol

tough haven
#

Or maybe they could since they were gonna teleport that virus bomb into the palace

summer mural
#

ah yes

crystal forum
#

they can literally teleport already both in lore and tabletop

storm jungle
# summer mural LOL

its literally just Marvel/DC logic

How does Batman defeat a living god?

Idk tibetan monk technique

tough haven
#

THE plot device

tough haven
#

If you will

storm jungle
#

this is 40k

crystal forum
#

this just shows that grey knight lore isnt known enough

storm jungle
#

people hide fucking planets from reality

#

lol

summer mural
#

"weve had this teleporter for 7000000 years, but weve never used it because we didnt have the necron jamba juice with us to do it, till Now"

storm jungle
#

^

crystal forum
#

THEY CAN ALREADY TELEPORT

storm jungle
#

the lore does this constantly

#

3 custodians once defeated an entire hivefleet by holding a ravine

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and everyone was like "yeah this is badass as fuck"

tough haven
storm jungle
#

because everyone loves to meatride custodians

#

lol

dapper gyro
#

One Harley killed 8 custodes...

winter vessel
storm jungle
#

🫡

dapper gyro
#

Therefore, 1 Harley can defeat 2 hive fleets.

storm jungle
winter vessel
#

It’s like it was a half baked plan written with crayons on a graph paper

storm jungle
#

automatic loss

crystal forum
#

if GW wants to then grey knights will make their way to the emp

tough haven
#

Would be wiped out

storm jungle
#

thats most 40k protagonist plans

#

lol

tough haven
crystal forum
#

it doesnt even have to be some tech macguffin, it could be grey knights actually talking to custodies and seeing common ground or some shit

storm jungle
#

I wish people realised/accepted this entire setting works on the logic of "how much shit we can make up and excuses to be created to make this plot bit work"

crystal forum
#

of all factions, grey knights have the plot armour for writers to do whatever tf they want

#

it's the fucking grey knights

summer mural
#

i know whatl happen, garran crowe will make a heroic sacrifice by letting the blade of antwyr consume him at the last second so he can cause an explosion strong enough to kill the emperor

tough haven
crystal forum
#

kaldor draigo could appear out of nowhere and blow open the palace doors

tough haven
#

So if he wants to not get up, maybe you should tell those guys

#

Instead of keeping it a secret because ???

storm jungle
#

stop thinking so hard about this shit bro i swear to god

#

😭

crystal forum
#

i actually think it will happen

winter vessel
#

gets up and does lunges before sitting down
Custodian near the throne: TF

dapper gyro
#

On a Halo server a long time ago, a dude loves to shill on Halo spartan, and he used the card "SM can survive a direct hit from the titan, which can shoot down ship in orbiter"...

crystal forum
#

emperor will get up, grey knights put him down, overarching plot is unaffected

summer mural
#

so, how long before we get the plot twist where we find out the terminus decree was written by the alpha legion?

storm jungle
#

peak

tough haven
dapper gyro
tough haven
#

Do they lose their plot armor?

crystal forum
#

i hope we get a book about it because it could be a really cool action story

#

if it's done well

storm jungle
#

its the faction that matters

#

look at all the slop space marine chapters doing their thing and always winning

#

lol

crystal forum
#

the funny thing is grey knights are supposed to have unpainted armour

tough haven
#

Ok but who’s gonna follow a faction with a dumb name like “The brown knights” or some shit

storm jungle
#

40k fans

summer mural
storm jungle
#

who else

crystal forum
#

that's just the natural colour of terminator armour

storm jungle
dapper gyro
#

GK is there because GW can't sell silver paints. Change my mind.

tough haven
#

I know I’m just shitposting

winter vessel
#

Reject GK . Accept Minotaur grind set

crystal forum
#

kill all minotaurs

summer mural
#

i like gk ngl, they are made to be likeable

tough haven
crystal forum
#

i legit expect minotaurs on terra waiting for the fight to end so they can steal some grey knight terminator armour

#

vultures

tough haven
#

This but SM just casually completing whatever objective they had with ease

summer mural
#

I think of all the possible ways it could happen, the best tipping point for the total collapse of the Imperium is if the Fabricator General wakes up one day and decides " okay, fuck this" and he declares cult mechanicus isnt supporting the imperium anymore and the emprah isnt the avatar of the omnissiah

#

thats the funniest one to me

crystal forum
#

wouldnt really work since forge worlds dont have to listen to his every word

summer mural
#

i think its enough still tbh

crystal forum
#

and that would just cause heresy 2.0

summer mural
#

good, heresy 2.0 can end the imperium

dapper gyro
#

Which will never happen.

summer mural
#

possible ways it could happen was the premise

#

so yes

#

it will never in fact happen

crystal forum
#

mechanicus vs imperium would be one lame ass heresy

summer mural
#

its better than grey knights teleporting into the emperors throne room KEKW_ogryn

#

all of them are lame ass heresies

#

except the og

crystal forum
#

grey knights striking down the emp wouldn't be some huge imperium wide event

#

literally all the emp does is sit and make the shiny beacon work

#

if it stays on nobody will care or notice

summer mural
#

would it stay on even, i totally forgot about that

crystal forum
#

if it turns off then imperium go bye bye

#

and that wont happen

#

the whole thing with the emperor is if he actually dies then the imperium goes with him

summer mural
#

the grey knights striking down the emprah isnt going to happen either

crystal forum
#

which is the classic 40k thing of keeping the entire setting on a fence post between two chasms

#

some would call it eternal edging

summer mural
crystal forum
#

striking down doesnt mean killing

summer mural
#

ah I see

#

they just cut off a limb

crystal forum
#

it says in the terminus decree that they need to keep him on the throne

summer mural
#

right

winter vessel
#

like hit his shin with a crowbar

crystal forum
#

yeah just cripple him again

#

"guys i can finally move my body, im healed!"
"OH NO YOU AINT"

#

suplexes emperor

winter vessel
#

“What I tell you boy?” pulls out chancla

summer mural
#

just kill him for gods sake, let titus take his rightful place at the throne

crystal forum
#

would kill him

#

or any other psyker in the galaxy

winter vessel
summer mural
#

yes

crystal forum
#

malcador could do it but only temporarily

summer mural
crystal forum
#

bring in the flesh rugs

#

this golden palace needs more flesh

#

and screaming

winter vessel
#

And by then, Captain Acheran will discover he was wrong. He can’t spare three men…only two

summer mural
#

i liked acheran

#

he seemed suitably captainy and i liked that he was bald, had an accent and a red beard

crystal forum
#

oh wait titus is the SM2 guy

summer mural
#

yes..

#

LOL

crystal forum
#

i thought you meant the NL book protag

#

the moment titus sits on the throne 10000 nids burst out of the wall

#

because he cant ever get some peace and quiet

summer mural
#

well , he never , leandros is his eternal curse

#

always there to nag him

winter vessel
#

A green Portal manifests in the throne room and it’s Grimskull back from the dead “WAHAHA YOU GOT ALL SHINY NOW SPACE MARINE?!”

summer mural
#

" You might be the Emperor of Man now, but remember, the taint of heresy never fades."

crystal forum
#

and then an inquisitor arrives to arrest titus for wearing his boots wrong

summer mural
#

" I see youve brought prosperity , victory and peace to the Imperium of Man as the Emperor. But remember, the taint of heresy never fades."

#

then one day titus will try to establish diplomacy with the aeldari, and leandros will go " GOTTEM" and have him dragged out kicking and screaming from the throne room

crystal forum
#

Titus, you are now the god emperor of the entire imperium, which means you have the entirety of the ecclesiarchy worshiping you as a deity
but the taint of heresy-

#

i'd imagine guilliman would ask titus if he can just kill leandros himself

summer mural
#

nah, leandros will just look guilliman in the eye and tell him , " The Codex Astartes does not support this action."

crystal forum
#

quoting the codex astartes to guilliman is a leandros thing to do

summer mural
#

yep

#

he will be so deadpan about it too

#

probably wave a finger about

#

the best possible thing that can happen to leandros is a chaos marine kills him

#

or a nid eats him

crystal forum
#

i want him to fall to chaos

#

and then titus kills him

#

the perfect ending

summer mural
#

if he falls to chaos

#

hed be a better version of lorgar

crystal forum
#

the book of lorgar does not support this

paper haven
#

"The book of Lorgar does not support this action."

#

Damn it Jay

summer mural
#

" No matter how many men , women and children you brutally butcher Abaddon, remember. The taint of purity never fades."

paper haven
#

Leandros is more hated than Erebus

summer mural
#

in all fairness

#

hes actually quite reasonable in sm2

#

he does throw shade at titus, but i think its pretty clear he isnt going to take any action against him until he has actual evidence

#

its not like hes trying to stab him in the back like he did in sm1

crystal forum
#

titus proved himself more than leandros ever could

#

and leandros keeps tormenting him about his guilt

#

a guilt which leandros fabricated

#

since titus literally never did anything wrong

winter vessel
#

Leandros dies and Titus is relieved. Some time later the mysterious Legion of the Damned arrive and one of them approaches Titus and says “the stain of suspicion never completely fades. I will be watching you”
Titus: DAMN IT

paper haven
#

They really gloss over the fact that the rules guy broke the rules by going straight to the inquisition

summer mural
#

well it was nice because part of the story was also titus being super reticent to trust his new ultramarine comrades , because like, leandros was his battle brother, ratted him out for no reason and no crime, and he had to leave whats basically his home and do punishment

crystal forum
#

almost like he knew his chapter wouldn't listen to his bullshit

summer mural
#

all for excelling at his job

dapper gyro
winter vessel
#

The flaming spectral Leandros takes off his helmet but he’s just headless

paper haven
#

Leandros gets promoted to chapter master

summer mural
#

titus can handle him probably, calgar himself redeemed titus publically, titus probably has a lot more faith in himself and the chapter now

#

hes just like " yeah sure whatever, fuck you leandros"

crystal forum
#

haha you're now damned leandros

#

dumbass

paper haven
#

Get immortalized in the Emperor's embrace nerd

winter vessel
#

The moment they boarded the Thunderhawk
calgar looks at Titus
“Do what you gotta do, this’ll be off the record”
Titus: “thank you milord”
And then he whips out the iron Chancla and starts beating Leandros

dapper gyro
#

I mean, even in SM2, Titus acts like he is done with the chaplain. He cares more for the new troops than whatever the chaplain complain about.

summer mural
#

yeah titus is probably feeling the best hes ever felt at the end of sm2

crystal forum
#

titus has absolutely no need for a chaplain after spending 1000 years as a deathwatch

summer mural
#

he has literal new best friends in his ultramarine pair of battle bros, he stopped the invasion, calgar himself publically rewarded him and redeemed him

crystal forum
#

not to mention he literally saved calgar himself

#

that's just one step away from saving guilliman

nova scaffold
#

i wonder who will win a fight
a 3rd edition space marine vs 10th edition

dapper gyro
#

Even the BT is chill with Titus...

summer mural
#

the who?

#

black templars?

dapper gyro
#

Yes, black templars were escorting him and the inquistor.

#

To be with BT and Inquistor and came out alive is a feat of itself.

raven stone
#

Leandros is...a necessary evil. Which is why he is given the rank of Chaplain.

Guy is the odd example of an Astartes drunk on the Imperial orthodox juice.

dapper gyro
#

Considering BT are ultra paranoid, who even killed a custode.

paper haven
#

At the end of Space Marine 6, Titus will have defeated Abbadon in single combat, saved Terra from the 21st Black Crusade and the Emperor himself will have returned to personally commend him and Leandros will still be like: The taint of suspicion will never truly fade."

crystal forum
#

it's funny he became a chaplain since he sucks so much at being one

summer mural
#

leandros in sm2 is probably excellent at his job, including motivating the troops and taking care of them, his only problem is titus grudge

raven stone
#

They really should have just had BT adopt Leandros...

crystal forum
#

like i was never motivated by his words

#

he prob just repeats the codex astartes over and over

winter vessel
#

I would like a brief prequel story where it focuses on Titus’ Deathwatch KT when he still went by Nullus. It ends right when they are dispatched to deploy the virus bomb aboard the beautiful Corvus Blackstar

hallow plover
raven stone
raven stone
crystal forum
#

BT should kill leandros

#

the codex sucks ass

young pecan
paper haven
#

They're just lunatics

summer mural
summer mural
#

e something

#

gadriel

raven stone
#

I think

young pecan
#

He was sorta valid but also dude you're acting like a baby

crystal forum
#

i think most space marines are lunatics

young pecan
#

Yeah Gadriel

winter vessel
#

Chadriel

raven stone
#

Yea that

summer mural
#

he became wholesome gradually

paper haven
#

Well he did almost shoot Titus in the face

summer mural
#

blah, normal sm stuff

raven stone
#

I like how they deliberately mirrored the sentence XD

#

You know the one

summer mural
#

black templars opened fire on their primaris reinforcements, or was that dark angels

winter vessel
summer mural
raven stone
paper haven
#

The codex astartes does not support this action.

Beat

But it should be fun

summer mural
#

yep

#

nice moment

#

also I was not expecting to enjoy that scene with the dreadnought as much as I did

#

" WHERE IS MAGNUS?!"

paper haven
#

The writing in SM2 was good

crystal forum
#

titus is still a piece of cardboard

paper haven
#

It took him 100 years to develop a personality

winter vessel
#

I still remember Adeptus Ridiculous’ podcast review for SM2, comment section was something alright

crystal forum
#

imagine waking up from sleeping when your last waking moments were on the battlefield with a primarch

paper haven
#

WHERE IS HE!?

crystal forum
#

i wish i could be an angry dreadnought

#

just constant violence

#

GUESS ITS TIME TO KILL SOME FUCKING HERETICS

summer mural
#

i liked it

paper haven
#

Honorable brother, it's been 2000 years since that battle.

crystal forum
#

and then he charges headfirst at the nearest tzeentch demon

paper haven
#

World eater dreadnaughts are even worse

summer mural
#

like the dreadnought really was in its element, completely fuelled by battle and rage and just bombing tf out of everything

crystal forum
#

world eaters are too angry

summer mural
#

looking for the daemon primarch himself

crystal forum
#

it just berzerk rage

#

mindless

paper haven
#

Frothing at the mouth

crystal forum
#

i like a directed anger

summer mural
#

also nobody talks about how the conflict in sm2 revolved around the mechanicus being dummies

crystal forum
#

like i will kill all demons on this planet but i will also look awesome doing it

paper haven
#

Paradoxically, I like when World Eaters are portrayed as calm and troubled by the violence
But also when loyalists are nothing but angry

summer mural
#

arent world eater dreadnoughts helbrutes

#

and just mindless monsters basically

paper haven
#

Pretty sure most are, yeah

#

I'm less familiar with modern lore

winter vessel
# paper haven How bad?

A lot of viewers disliked Adric’s take on the campaign not being very good. And how Bricky says it was “this is so over the top and stupid…idk” and how if you weren’t book readers like them, then you as an individual would say SM2 did pretty good, but they would say otherwise. Also DK got flak for not knowing the reference of the Banner stand being in relation to the artwork of the Crimson Fists, but he usually forgets content they already covered previously.

crystal forum
#

i dont expect tabletop players to have relevant opinions on video games

paper haven
#

The biggest nothing of nothings

crystal forum
#

if you dont even mention the gameplay then why bother

dapper gyro
tough haven
#

The gameplay was alright

crystal forum
#

it sucked ass on launch

paper haven
tough haven
#

The story is just the same as SM1 more or less

#

But SM1 did it better because it’s Orks

winter vessel
#

At least in a later video the Adric crew did admit they were a little harsh on their review of SM2

tough haven
#

And orks have personality unlike nids

#

I just dislike SM2 because it just perpetuates SM fans’ view that space marines are invulnerable god like beings that nothing can stop

#

It fuels their power trip

paper haven
#

I thought the villains in SM1 were better.
The Orks had way more personality than the tyrannids and Nemeroth said the exact same things as the second guy with only a fraction of the words

summer mural
#

" Vile sons of Magnus. Is he here?"
" He is not."
" Pity....then MY HATRED MUST BE DIRECTED AT HIS MINIONS!"
Open fires all over the battlefield with minigun

#

peak dreadnought

crystal forum
#

the nids feel like a forced addition to the game due to 10th edition

paper haven
#

The hive tyrant dies off screen

outer wave
#

I cant imagine that brings up the power fantasy of SMs for their fans

crystal forum
#

the swarming mechanics needed so much extra post launch work

paper haven
#

Play hoard mode if you feel invulnerable

#

Balance? No. Here's three carnifexes

crystal forum
#

like the visuals of being surrounded by nids is nice but it was so ass

paper haven
#

Carn-
Carnifi?

crystal forum
#

also enemies just being bullet sponges

tough haven
winter vessel
#

Tzaangors were a pain in the ass

tough haven
#

The whole game

paper haven
#

Hoard enemies that can block. Thanks I hate it

crystal forum
#

and most weapons being completely useless for a while

tough haven
#

Even with two factions there was no variety

crystal forum
#

bolters feeling underpowered

paper haven
#

Bolters were practically useless

crystal forum
#

especially the automatic one you got during the final battle in campaign

#

that was such a terrible fight in hard mode

paper haven
#

You'd use all your ammo and still have a hoard to fight

winter vessel
#

With the intent of SM3 I’d rather it focus on one faction because that allows more room for the different types of enemies to make their appearance. But I’m sure it would just get old as well

crystal forum
#

that's years away

#

i'll still be playing darktide over SM2

#

as a coop shooter SM2 falls short

arctic talon
#

There is no lore accurate difficulty for SM2

#

Because it would be dogshit to play

#

Titus needing to pick flesh borers out of his armor for 10 minutes inbetween every firefight

winter vessel
#

Maybe a nice little thing is if it was Nurgle/ Plague marines and it takes place on a Hive World, throughout the story you see the slow collapse of Imperium control as decay and rot takes more foothold before it ends in an evacuation

crystal forum
#

like darktide?

winter vessel
#

In a sense. But it can be any of the other three gods in the chaos pantheon

paper haven
crystal forum
#

shush it's the only thing i played

#

pvp was awful

tough haven
winter vessel
#

But the outcome is you can’t save the planet or any degree of victory. Chaos wins and you have to gtfo

paper haven
#

Pvp felt like a different game altogether

tough haven
#

Pvp was so ass

paper haven
#

A worse game

winter vessel
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I actually got to play against DK when he was doing a stream on PVP, pretty neat

paper haven
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Somehow it fumbled the best part of SM2, the combat

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Eternal crusade did a better job

young pecan
crystal forum
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idk i havent played in a while

paper haven
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Nerf guns

young pecan
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Look me straight in the eyes and tell me why a gaunt survives a bolt rifle shot to the head

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I don't care if the gun is automatic

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It's a bolt gun

paper haven
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You rolled a 1 on wounds

celest dome
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Multiple brains in the Gaunt

queen laurel
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warhammer is just like that

winter vessel
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it always felt nice doing a finisher on the Zoanthrope after it being such nuisance. Its when you slam em on the ground before you pull them by the tail and swing it around like a tether ball

median star
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i like the one were you just pull its face off

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average tyranid execution

gaunt lily
nova scaffold
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ngl i had painted my first Warhammer human but i did a bad job but idk what kind paint style i did to the uniform

median star
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mordian

nova scaffold
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i tried to paint it like its coftyrans but i accidentally dropped it in a water

nova scaffold
nova scaffold
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i just paint from memory

gaunt lily
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thats fair, tbf while the skin looks a bit blobby i think with a finished base and maybe a wash to add some depth to the models detail that paint job would turn out pretty good for tabletop standard

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much nicer to look at than a greytide thats for sure

paper haven
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God I loved that show

paper haven
gaunt lily
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honestly, imperfections aside i think its probably the best depiction of tyranids we will get in videogames for a while, having an engine build around swarms as part of the gameplay really did them justice

languid meadow
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yeah 100% I think Saber was the perfect studio to do a nid game after WWZ and the engine they made for that

nova scaffold
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it looks like a night lords just rips off some guy ass skin and graft it on a unfortunate guy

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on the face

opaque coyote
# languid meadow

Chorfs and Iron Warriors being in the same club.

"Daemons are great machine parts."

nova scaffold
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thats why i don't have a Warhammer army @gaunt lily

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im just absolutely bad at skin tone

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thats the reason why i enjoyed painting quar because the only challenge is to pick which color you want

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like its basically Skittles

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its extremely easier than painting skin

opaque coyote
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Get a piece of recently flayed skin

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Staple it onto somebody's face

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Prank'd

nova scaffold
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the skin us from some fat fuck ass

nova scaffold
opaque coyote
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To be fair, I think you could paint their skin to be like

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Pale like a vampire

nova scaffold
celest dome
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Just watching a Statam movie, not even 10 min in and he is waterboarding someone, he is the good guy

languid meadow
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amaazing

golden imp
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Would love to play it if it wasn’t turn based 😭

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Could never finish bg3 or rogue trader cause turned based wears me down

surreal nest
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Damn this is sick

nova scaffold
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tf chapter they are?

celest dome
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Night Lord

surreal nest
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Combining the terrain for an underground part is so fun