#40k-lore-chat
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I'm just imagining the Zealot saying that while the other three are like
"...c'mon man"
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also why is his rank Knight Commander Dragor, what knights? imperial knights?
Morrow's mythical legend goes hard
Some fanatic zealots spread rumors of Morrow being present on Calth, a world of Ultramar, during the Tyranid invasion by Hive Fleet Behemoth. Stating that Morrow was the unnamed imperial soldier that fired the plasma pistol shot killing the legendary, regenerative Carnifax "Old One Eye", giving it its namesake. This would have been during the Battle for Macragge in 745.M41 and 746.M41.
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I wonder how the zealot has so much info crucial to the setting lmao
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drinking with the troops
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Like how the heck does he know about girly man
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Im pretty sure my agitator zealot knows everything in life only through drinking with everyone he meets
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What if girlyman never existed and its all zealot propaganda
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There are many other rumors, the Brawler Ogryn even mentions Morrow destroyed a daemon-engine single-handedly.
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Like how the heck does he know about girly man
he's a well known figure
shadow plover
I believe him
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Considering its era indomitus
Guilliman being active would be well known
IMperial propaganda pumped that shit out enmass
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it's not like the high lords of terra days where whoever was leading the imperium was shady af
he's like a demigod to people
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I just realized I have no idea what color Tau eyes are canonically
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The bt certainly think he's a demigod
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ngl the idea of animal girls not having human ears just make me feel unsettled
like it makes me feel offended
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ecclesiarchy sees him as a demigod too
which would mean zealot would have heard of him
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like a noise marine when silence
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I just realized I have no idea what color Tau eyes are canonically
Red
crisp heath
Ah
shadow plover
I just realized I have no idea what color Tau eyes are canonically
there's some art of them being red and some art being full white
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Yeah Guilliman’s body in stasis was a pilgrimage sight
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But also like
TF HAPPENED TO HER
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tau happened
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it's the lack of a nose that makes tau unsettling
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it's the lack of a nose that makes tau unsettling
her face is that one uneaten veggie in the freezer for years
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The human eyes make them look bad
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I have the tau codex and I don't even know this lmao
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And T'au find the presence of our nose grotesque
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it's the lack of a nose that makes tau unsettling
no i mean like its incredibly wrinkly
crisp heath
I thought they just had brown eyes
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like it looks like a spray painted testicles
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Sefoni's rumour about the xenos prophecy has lead many players to suspect it is a reference to the Aeldari from Craftworld Alaitoc, known for having lone spies and rangers hidden throughout the galaxy.
Sefoni: I hear whispers in my mind. Xenos whispers. A sword, and a crescent, beneath a shifting cloak.
interesting, I never noticed this
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And our weird disgusting foot fingers
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no i mean like its incredibly wrinkly
dont hate on wrinkles man
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dont hate on wrinkles man
i prefer mine without wrinkles
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All minis have it
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And T'au find the presence of our nose grotesque
that makes no sense since creatures need a nose to not drown in their fucking snot
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If they don’t have red eyes it’s an art error
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that makes no sense since creatures need a nose to not drown in their fucking sn...
They do have a nose sorta
It’s the big slit
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But also like
AYO WHY SHE HAS HUMAN EYES
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That’s their olfactory organ
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It’s the big slit
is it an orifice
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Bad
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They can probably just expel mucous out their nasal slit just like how we can
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no horny
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They can probably just expel mucous out their nasal slit just like how we can
i bet it looks gross
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you slaanesh cultist
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like snot pooling on their face
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ever seen a guy who lost his nose
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They can probably just expel mucous out their nasal slit just like how we can
imagine they sneeze and it just shotgun blast it
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do you think tau have breathing problems like pugs
and sometimes they do reverse coughing
dusky beacon
Or maybe they have a strange way their biology works because they're aliens
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Eldar void eyes are the superior Eldar eye depiction
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It's actually sad you have to get your pugs nose singed by a vet to open their airways up properly
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However GW never has a consistent way of painting eldar eyes or depicting them in art
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Like how inbred is this animal lmao
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but the pitchblack eldar eyes are superior to human pupils on them imo
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I agree
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every alien is better than us
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all the fucking time
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fire caste?
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Yes
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also tau aren't
Yeah i was about to say
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i completely forgot how an arbitrator team straight up captured wolfer and imprisoned him on the tancred bastion
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Fire caste are about equal to a human but their hand eye cordination is inferior
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i thought fire caste were bodybuilders
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actually there preist dudes are very good in close combat
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they need to eat a lot + exercise to maintain muscle
Ethereals are cheating
but yes
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The drukhari worship one in the commoragh
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those blue bitches dont have psykers
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also Aun'shi isn't worshiped by the drukhari
He's respected
by some after his escape
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Oh my bad
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Tau castes are specialists, in their specific field they excel above the average human, but fall short in other places
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Most of these audio books are spreading misinfo
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i actually thought once that comorragh was a place and not a whole ass dimension
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Tau castes are specialists, in their specific field they excel above the average...
At least that's how i interpret it
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But the ethereals are doped at birth
if they're gona be in combat regularly
I.E Aun'Shi
and the honor guard
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I genuinely remeber hearing in a audio book he's worshipped
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one eversore assassin vs one avatar cosplayer
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Ah
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when you head some deldar respect him
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in any case the Tau do have a super soldier program
lol
With nano machines
and cloning
it uh, it is an idea
crisp heath
The server keeps telling me off for trying to say r word smh
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And Aun' Yori seemed to be ready for a real fight in Elemental Council
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The server keeps telling me off for trying to say r word smh
cant even say gay wad without a space
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the caste is supposed to do that
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Well ||depending on when he was replaced||
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They're meant to "inspire"
nah ethereals of lower/middle ranks
usually aren't very self serving
they've drunken the kool-aid the higher ranking ethereal's feed all the tau
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I know on Table top they suck cause if they die everything gets scared
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Back when I played
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one eversor assassin
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eversor mogs most ethereals
next question
lol
most of the assasinorum does
in a straight fight
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weak
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maybe the vindicare would lose
but a vindicare can tear a marines arm off
so maybe not lol
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thats not how it was in kingmaker
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I wouldn't be suprised if an Eversor can reliably 1v1 Space Marines
crisp heath
I think a vindacare would Krump a ethereal especially If they had the drop on them
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thats not how it was in kingmaker
yeah while Raithe is funny
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I wouldn't be suprised if an Eversor can reliably 1v1 Space Marines
They can slaughter squads worth no problem
All the members of the assasinorum are super soldiers
far more augmented then marines
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which assassin was it that killed an ethereal once
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Culexus killed Aun'va
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there's a story about that
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A lot of ethereals have died to Asasinorum operatives
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and she completely wiped the floor
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The only one I could see struggle against a SM would be a Culexus if it's not a Librairian
crisp heath
There taken in as orphans and are forced to kill their peers while they undergo the upgrade process
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which assassin was it that killed an ethereal once
It wasn't just AN Ethereal it was THE Ethereal
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It's actually pretty grim
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The only one I could see struggle against a SM would be a Culexus if it's not a ...
They can obliterate your soul
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as in the aura of horrific pain and suffering
for normal humans
the culexus aura on psykers is the aura that causes you so much agony a brutal death is a preferrable alternative
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all the assassins except eversor would struggle in open combat
they're not meant for that
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That's why they don't do it
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The vindacare is a sniper isn't he
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yeah
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yep
one of them is the anti psyker
one of them is the vraks ruiner
one of them is the fan service woman
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Assassins are awesome, their gear is amazing too
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all have roles
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I like the Temple that is information manipulation to get other people to kill your target
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Dominus in particular has some really wild toys
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is dominus the info guys
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Dominus is the disguise assassin
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With neural shredders and a necron phase sword
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also it can shapeshift
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Yep
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Isn't that the Callidus?
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Do u guys know if shape-shifting it actual shape-shifting or tricking ppl to think your form is different like when big e done it
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Ok so it's not manipulation
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they are also expert social engineers
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The shape-shifting assassin is the Callidus Temple
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in kingmaker one managed to trick a knight suit into thinking she's the pilot
that's like insane
crisp heath
Yeah that's some tywin lanister shit right there
queen laurel
in kingmaker one managed to trick a knight suit into thinking she's the pilot
To be fair that one was a lot of prep
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Like it's amazing but even the pilot was like even if they find something one off they would immediately fry her brain
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physically
and she even could change parts of her brain
that's how good polymorphine is
you'd think the drug would be used elsewhere in the imperium
but no it's a callidus temple exclusive
it can also apparently heal your body in low doses
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also it likely needs augmentation to use
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also just using the polymorphine without just melting into a mass of writhing meat requires a lot of practice so not just anyone can use it
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we know that she says to Raithe if she gets the dose wrong
he's gona fucking liquify
so I'd assume if you don't get the augmentation for that that would happen
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There must also be long term affects from using this stuff
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or maybe Sycorax was exagerating when she said he would liquify
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There must also be long term affects from using this stuff
yeah its addictive
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maybe you just need to concentrate really hard on what you want changed in your body
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like super meditation
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Like the eversor probably has teeth falling out skin dieing
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Huh
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and their bodies are fucked
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eversor are frozen until used lol
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That's pretty cool gw did that
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Saying the stuff they are taking is literally killing them
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also the fact they can turn themselves into a living bomb doesn't help
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get thawed, told who to kill and go out in a blaze of glory
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Prolly not a good thing for your mental health knowing you could mix the combat drugs and chemicals in your bloodstream
to become a bomb
now granted eversors and culexus are like
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but also eversor are one of the deadliest units of the imperium
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the 2 most batshit insane assassin temples
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I think eversors and the rest of the assasins don't generally have a good time
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Well here's the funny thing we know some Eversors manage to retire
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WHAT
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Really?
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Eversors train eversors at the temple on terra
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That's crazy
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so yes
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isn't the leader of the temple always an ex field operative
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There is a retirement point eventually
Yeah
leader of the temple is always an ex field operative
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so you could actually be a killing machine and survive
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and all the trainers on terra are eversors for the eversor temple on it
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They get some damn cool drip
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The death mask they wear 
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eversors probably have way poorer survival rate than the callidus even
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eversor can actually take on those missions though
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the most mentally deranged and unstable canidates
lol
a prime eversor canidate was a 14 year old boy
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like im pretty sure an eversor could take on a squad of veteran space marines
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who killed an entire hab block worth of people
An eversor almost tears seth's head off
the only reason it doesn't work is because he was making a show of it
and "enjoying" the kill
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Yeah there usually taken in as kids around 5 years old and trained to be a weapon right?
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after being denied it for so long
It depends on the age
ages vary for assasinorum training
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They also are orphans usually
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but usually never over schola graduate age
shadow plover
in Nemesis an eversor kills a bunch of marines before expiring iirc
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but yeah the eversor almost kills seth and the only reason he doesn't
is because he was making a show of it/having fun
seth's honor guard manage to cripple the dude and eject him into space before he detonates himself
the dude was disguised as a serf
btw
💀
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i wonder if an eversor would fight like an eldar
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not sure how the fuck he did that, but an eversor disgusing as a serf goes crazy
shadow plover
"man this serf is bulky as fuck"
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they have the same type of movement thing going on
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i wonder if an eversor would fight like an eldar
the way they're described in war of the beast is that they're so fluid its hard for the marines to keep up
but they're "clumsier" then an eldar
also they're uh hyped up on drugs
one of the tech priests in war of the beast stuff compares them to an Incubus
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fuck you Lucius the Eternal, gtfo of my phone
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in terms of how they moveish
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god NO not war of the beast lore
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i need a tech priest to get rid of him
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but based on initative score back in 7e
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fucking 1400 year old kyril
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Eversors and Callidus == Eldar aspect warriors/wych
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Vindicare and Culexus == Marine/Guardians
and also throwing heresy into the mix
Vanus and venemum also == marines
but venemum gets a bonus to initative due to their "special" mix
Venemum temple using combat drugs doesn't surprise me either
considering the whole temple are a bunch of chemistry nerds
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wolf
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Yes
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why did sinderman have to live through the war of the beast
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Is that the Tau one
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Yes I read the whole thing
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About the kroot
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literally older than some space marines
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Yucky hey
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Oh
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Where we get nobs the size of ghazkull
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he should have died during the scouring
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And boyz the size of nobz
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I only read the first book of War of the Beast on a plane once, barely remember anything about it and never continued the series
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And the PRIME ORKS
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I was thinking of the one about the kroot slaughter houses smh
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god i hope kyril is retconned to have died during the scouring
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Lol what
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AND THEYRE ALL BASED ON THE PRIMARCHS AND THE SOACE MARINE LEGIONS
AND MUNRINES
FHATS WHAT THE ORK CLANS ARE
AND KULTURES
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God the war of the beast was ass
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also all imperial fists die for this stupid fucking ork
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No way
Yes way
Also the beast is like
The size of a titan and dies to vulkan
But there were actually 13 beasts
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we dont even have art of the beast
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Elmos sad
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And then all the beasts died
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that's how little GW cared
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I hate how there so inconsistent
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Sometimes it's good sometimes it's just annoyingly confusing
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Oh also the beast is super duper smart
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it's funny how little anyone knows about the series (that's good)
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And super smart
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the war for armageddon is infinitely better ork lore
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I'm starting to think warhammers like written badly
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I'm starting to think warhammers like written badly
Literally no one likes the war of the beast
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lmao
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Who’s actually read the whole thing
I have met 0 people
Who enjoy the whole thing
Everyone pretends it’s not real
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it's just "lets's kill all spacemarines"
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GW also retcon’d all the ork backstory from it
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that's the war of the beast
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GW also retcon’d all the ork backstory from it
it should be retconned into being a fever dream
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And kultures and clans are just genetically encoded
Into orks
And not a thing the beast came up with
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again armageddon lore is just the actual good ork story
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After he watched spesh marines throttle the octarius orks
So is Octarius
Octarius and Armageddon are actual good Ork stories
Now granted the Orks lose at octarius
But the overfiend of octarius had a bad time
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gazgul is iconic
an actual big name ork (rare)
god i hope he comes back
i want that shit
shadow plover
no chance that gazgul isn't coming back
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He will come back
He’s alive and well
And he’s mentioned in the new grotsnik book
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We will see him on Armageddon Electric Boogaloo Vol. 4
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a new guard story!!!!
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We will see him on Armageddon Electric Boogaloo Vol. 4
You mean vol 5
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i hope armageddon dies this time
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We just got 4 with crusade Armageddon
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oh right
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Maybe lol
GW has essentially killed a planet in supplemental lore before
Like Metalica
Which is literally referred to as a dying forge world now
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it would be a fitting end for armageddon
shadow plover
armageddon will never die
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it will withstand a thousand Caidas
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Tbf new Armageddon already exists
Also Armageddon is ullanor
According to war of the beast
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also armageddon is weirdly close to terra
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shadow plover
that's also heresy lore is it not
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because I'm sure I've read it somewhere and I've not read WotB
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isnt it war of the beast lore
shadow plover
I wouldn't be surprised that the first time it's mentioned would be WotB but I think it has been canonized elsewhere as well
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moving an entire fucking planet
shadow plover
like that hasn't been done before
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isn't there an extra planet in the solar system that's entirely artificial
but only gets mentioned in HH
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shadow plover
but only gets mentioned in HH
at least the sol map doesn't have anything like that nor can I recall one
crisp heath
They put more detail on the border than the actual map lmao
Imperium in a nut shell
It's got to look cool tho!
valid needle
The bt certainly think he's a demigod
He is a demigod. It says so in the 10th edition codex.
crisp heath
Pretty sure big e would have something to say about worship like this 🤔
valid needle
Space marines are even referred to as demigods
valid needle
Pretty sure big e would have something to say about worship like this 🤔
I doubt it
crisp heath
Worship makes the chaos gods stronger doesn't it
valid needle
We all saw his idea proved wrong
valid needle
Worship makes the chaos gods stronger doesn't it
Nope
Worship of the emperor weakens chaos
Getting rid of faith in the emperor leads humans to chaos and powers chaos
valid needle
The emotions around it feed them
Faith specifically in the emperor empowers him and weakens chaos
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Even thats kinda dependant
valid needle
The imperial truth only powered chaos as we all saw
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automatically worshipping the Emperor doesnt negate chaos
crisp heath
No I'm saying the emotions of these humans inadvertently feeds the warp
storm jungle
you gotta have like actual faith powers
which a great portion of humanity doesnt do
(its why they all go to super-hell)
shadow plover
robute is as much a demigod as the emperor is a god (not)
valid needle
No I'm saying the emotions of these humans inadvertently feeds the warp
Emotions yes but emotions are everywhere. Anger could feed chaos, pride could feed chaos. Faith in the emperor is the only thing that protects us.
valid needle
also whos "us"
Humanity
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me specifically
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Humanity
Riiiight
but yeah this thing of "worshipping the emperor protects you" shit only applies to like a very few specific people
he very much doesnt still look after most of his subjects, its the same deal with how worshipping the chaos gods doesnt get you much either tbh
(unless you kill a lot of people i guess lmao)
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it's almost a running gag in the novels how imperials repeat the emperor protects them yet they still get slaughtered in the millions
shadow plover
then the McEvilface Badguy says something "heh, didn't protect you this time did he 
"
crisp heath
Emotions yes but emotions are everywhere. Anger could feed chaos, pride could fe...
I think it's more so you're casting these emotions into nothing and something is going to notice
valid needle
Yes but the sad truth about humanity is they will always look to a higher power and something to have faith in. If they don’t have the emperor or something of the like to look to they’ll eventually be driven to chaos. Like how when lorgar lost faith in the emperor he turned to chaos.
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I may be completely wrong there tho
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because the Imperium is terrible
its kinda just who brainwashes you first really
isnt that right Mr Tom Cruise
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where is lorgar anyway, I feel like its been a long time since something lorgar related popped up
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shadow plover
having a milkshake with Corax
queen laurel
its kinda just who brainwashes you first really
one thing i will give warhammer props to is that they depicted humanity so horribly I would rather spend an eternity in Twitter than be honest
valid needle
where is lorgar anyway, I feel like its been a long time since something lorgar ...
Primarch of the word bearers
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lets consult the lexi
queen laurel
lets consult the lexi
The true leader of lore chat
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oh so hes having a picnic
crisp heath
I feel like worship puts a giant beacon on wherever it's happening that just attracts stuff
In 40k
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itd be nice to see him in all his weird daemonic bald preacher glory
valid needle
because the Imperium is terrible
Of course, it says so at the start of nearly every book. But in comparison to becoming a slave to the evil chaos murder daemons, I think I’d rather live and work in the imperium.
storm jungle
Of course, it says so at the start of nearly every book. But in comparison to be...
I mean no its both awful
lol
the Imperium can make your life about as worse withotu daemons
you really underestimate the amount of misery a human being can inflict on another person
queen laurel
Of course, it says so at the start of nearly every book. But in comparison to be...
If you are forced to reincarnate in warhammer but you have the choice to pick which faction to be in pick the orks
Because at least you will be too oblivious to the fact that the universe is actively the worst thing to have ever existed
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If you are forced to reincarnate in warhammer but you have the choice to pick wh...
I’d probably choose votann ngl
shadow plover
but then you'd be short...
scenic bolt
loner psyker has a line about how nothing pushes people more to chaos than the imperium itself, for many chaos is an upgrade
queen laurel
If you never come out of the galactic core you are relatively safe
valid needle
but then you'd be short...
It is a sacrifice but in a world of everything is evil you gotta make sacrifices
shadow plover
also you'd just be a clone culmination of people who existed before you so you'd never really be you
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I wonder if the lov will ever be seen as non xeno
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I’d probably choose votann ngl
Literally the most gigachad decision ngl
crisp heath
Probably not
storm jungle
Nah
it makes no sense from a tabletop perspective
thats what comes first before lore
crisp heath
But it's strange how the imperium keeps tabs on them
storm jungle
To be fair it varies wildly
the Votann are like commerce-nations/clans among other things
their lore for what we got is like really diverse too
they did a great job keeping them as space dwarves while adding more shit to them
queen laurel
the Votann are like commerce-nations/clans among other things
And one of the most influential factions of the imperium if they learned what the truth is about votaan, let me assure you the mechanicus will not let them go
crisp heath
I think I like them , don't barely know anything yet but there pretty cool
storm jungle
I think I like them , don't barely know anything yet but there pretty cool
okay so for once a rarity from me but
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https://2d4chan.org/wiki/Leagues_of_Votann
Would highly suggest reading their 4chan page
crisp heath
Yeah they have some cool machine magic I think 🤔
storm jungle
it does a great explanation of them as a faction
it has like 0 memes and just full facts with some joke ssprinkled in
queen laurel
agri worlds seem nice for imperium standards
no imagine modern day world exploited agriculture times 1,000,000
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which is a fucking rarity
crisp heath
Awesome thank you
storm jungle
Awesome thank you
🫡
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no imagine modern day world exploited agriculture times 1,000,000
yeah thats still better than like
the rest
storm jungle
yeah thats still better than like
queen laurel
yeah thats still better than like
no the world is literally all about the back breaking labor and pollution
storm jungle
Farm the slop.
queen laurel
this
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LMAO
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How do I join the guard
storm jungle
ask your nearest recruiting station
scenic bolt
in one of the nurgle books it's described where going outside in an agriworld without a hazmat suit is an actual death sentence
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scenic bolt
because the air is so chalk full of pesticides, growth chems, and pollution
storm jungle
in one of the nurgle books it's described where going outside in an agriworld wi...
People got extremely mad at the author for that, i think its based as fuck
that entire entry is also on the agri-world page
that alone says a lot ngl
celest dome
because the air is so chalk full of pesticides, growth chems, and pollution
chock full
scenic bolt
like Im sorry the imperium is not following a 100% certified organic farming practice
storm jungle
^
shadow plover
it's pretty stupid of people to think agri worlds would be some nice meadows as far as the eye can see
storm jungle
it's pretty stupid of people to think agri worlds would be some nice meadows as ...
They got mad because it ruins their fantasy of agri-worlds being "nice/decent places to live on"
shadow plover
stupid people with their stupid fantasies
summer mural
i put a book on my keyboard by mistake
storm jungle
Pleasure Worlds are literally dubai so 💀
celest dome
Pleasure world is nice, if you're the clientelle
scenic bolt
hacked by the mechanicus
summer mural
created morse code for some reason
crisp heath
Votans actually pretty awesome
crisp heath
I didn't know they were around when the imperium was still a baby
storm jungle
yeah thats re-integrating their original lore
crisp heath
They probably could tell the imperium so much
storm jungle
The problem is
- they'd get shot
- their entire holds would get reaped/pillaged
- their entire race would also get subjugated
celest dome
- Not their problem
crisp heath
Yah that would be heresy right?
shadow plover
Get them boys
storm jungle
Yah that would be heresy right?
extreme heresy
they literally live with robots
and consider them equals
the mechanicus would have a stroke
scenic bolt
and the AI cores are a big no no
storm jungle
^
celest dome
Or aposthasy 
storm jungle
their entire way of life is antishesis to the imperium
queen laurel
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE
they did not miss with the year of the dwarf for real for real
crisp heath
Seems like they just didn't mess stuff up 🤔
storm jungle
Somewhat yeah
summer mural
whats their craziest piece of firepower
storm jungle
their entire society is pretty chill
crisp heath
I need to read more tho
storm jungle
whats their craziest piece of firepower
Currently uhhh planet-eater ships i think
summer mural
id like to read about some votann ork action
storm jungle
summer mural
should be fun
summer mural
Currently uhhh planet-eater ships i think
ah yes
shadow plover
The Vore 9000
storm jungle
I THINK thats a small moon but like you get the idea lol
summer mural
the good ol planet eater 5000
valid needle
Literally the most gigachad decision ngl
On Big God E FRFR
storm jungle
On Big God E FRFR
🤝
their society is legit also not that terrible
you just live like
a merchant family lol
obviously some Leagues are way worse and some are way better, so it all depends
shadow plover
just the fact all your lives are pre-decided for you is kinda bleak
storm jungle
SO
crisp heath
I need to be careful or I'm gonna start collecting them
summer mural
by imperium standards its not bad anyway
storm jungle
you actually can still switch careers and choose stuff
shadow plover
not pre-destined just pre-decided
summer mural
or rather, 40k standards
shadow plover
that's me on this discord
storm jungle
Same
another part I found funy is uh
when ironkin get made, they can just want to have promotions
and rise in leadership positions
and nobody minds it lol
crisp heath
storm jungle
yeah they are literally just dwarf-but-robot so
shadow plover
they're pretty much just living thinking people, just mechanical instead of biological
shadow plover
also they've got stupid domes for heads which is nice
crisp heath
I want a stonks meme but says beuriocricy , I tried to spell it I really did
queen laurel
exactly yeah
You call an iron kin clanker a kin is gonna hit you in the head with a giant mallet
celest dome
The saddest part about Ironkin is that they can't enjoy a good brew
celest dome
queen laurel
The saddest part about Ironkin is that they can't enjoy a good brew
What you want to give them fermented motor oil
scenic bolt
you can settle the votann xenos or not debate by how frequently they get supplemental material
shadow plover
I want a fucking Votann walker dammit
storm jungle
i still think what they do have rn is great, the new codex adds a ton more lore as well but yeah its pretty gradual
crisp heath
I know there xeno but the imperium does keep a eye on them which is why I asked
storm jungle
Yeah it mostly varies tho as usual
most imperials just see them as weird abhumans or "idk short people I exchange money with"
scenic bolt
looks human enough
storm jungle
celest dome
Abhuman is a legal term
storm jungle
so very far removed from humanity
celest dome
They are and aren't
shadow plover
grineer ass
summer mural
no grineer from warframe
shadow plover
shadow plover
she knows
storm jungle
half life 2 synth concept art looking ass
queen laurel
It's the same as like Goliath from necromunda, the imperium sees them as abhumans but the way they you know make more of themselves function stuff like that you can kind of say they are not
they look human enough so they get abhuman status
opaque coyote
half life 2 synth concept art looking ass
I still find it funny that Half Life 1 literally decided to add an extra skeleton for tiddy physics just for the Black ops assassins
And the Elite helmet was supposed to be for a similar type of assassin enemy
shadow plover
well of course you would add that
opaque coyote
bro I DO NOT need to think about the black ops assassin during work
My intrusive thoughts will now be beamed into your head
summer mural
"So, we're talking about space dwarfs who need more RAM for their gods?" LOL
queen laurel
My intrusive thoughts will now be beamed into your head
and as punishment you shall go to the garth ennis room
opaque coyote
and as punishment you shall go to the garth ennis room
I have one instant argument against that
...
No
queen laurel
I have one instant argument against that
Too bad you will enter anyway
opaque coyote
"So, we're talking about space dwarfs who need more RAM for their gods?" LOL
They install all the memories of their dead into them
Yet they cannot get an SSD
summer mural
In the Imperium of Man, the Tyranids hunt you, in the Leagues of Votann, the Leagues hunt Tyranids. Known to the Leagues as “The Bane” the Kin are wary of the Nids and have gain a grudging respect for their effectiveness and adaptability. Whilst the Nids still view the Kin as biomass ripe for devourment. The nids' themselves also stay clear away from them as the Leagues are known to scout out and hunt down entire Tyranid hive fleets to harvest their resource bounties.
based
shadow plover
the only votann book starts with a kin fleet harvesting a nid hive ship for juice
opaque coyote
In the Imperium of Man, the Tyranids hunt you, in the Leagues of Votann, the Lea...
There are now two types of race hatred for dwarves that will never die
Elves
And big bugs
crisp heath
Yeah I think there my new favorite faction
shadow plover
There are now two types of race hatred for dwarves that will never die
you forgot orks
opaque coyote
Do they hoard ores or something?
queen laurel
Do they hoard ores or something?
no they cut off their beards and use it as pillows
and also destroy literally everything they make
crisp heath
Dwarfs are like Scots
queen laurel
and call them short every opportunity they get
summer mural
the nids have biomass
shadow plover
There was some specific material they wanted from a dead hive ship, something to do with the sacks that sense warp currents or the like. Can't recall what it was
crisp heath
They don't get on w anyone
summer mural
so yeah
crisp heath
Even scots
opaque coyote
Even scots
Damn scots, they ruined scotland
celest dome
and call them short every opportunity they get
Being short is better for the mines
crisp heath
I'm short 
celest dome
Your tallness just make you an easier target for our Thunderers
crisp heath
If I go to a rubgy or football game there's a 90% chance I'm just looking at the back of someone's head the whole time
shadow plover
You'll live another day
opaque coyote
British 🫵
Truly, the main reason why 40k is Grimdark
All the dialect is British
The Orks, the humans
summer mural
The kids.
crisp heath
The English were literally burning churches with people inside them here
opaque coyote
Sounds about right
shadow plover
at least nords burned them empty
crisp heath
I have some English criminals saved actually you want to see some of this?
summer mural
Saved...where
crisp heath
crisp heath
Yeah i gotta give him that
We have statues of him in one of our cities I'm not even joking
queen laurel
Being short is better for the mines
which makes them good slaves for unpaid labor
crisp heath
We have some pretty crazy history here
So aliens earth is actually pretty good so far? It's not ridley scott but I am impressed to say the least, it has vibes of the old trilogy
summer mural
ive heard its good
but i need all eps to come out
i prefer binge watching
dont like weekly watching
crisp heath
I watched both of the episodes currently out and yeah it's decent
iron lantern
WAKE UP AN HONORED BROTHER I NEED THE WIFI PASSWORD
summer mural
damn
arbitor ian was on ign?
doing one of those il answer your 40k questions from twitter thing
shadow plover
yes, twice
cedar otter
We hate the English too
We don't think about you at all
crisp heath
near wasp
I'm looking at killteams rn maybe i should just wait
covert kiln
So, I was reading something about how our little rejects are punching way above their weight class. We're basically just desperate commandos. And in higher missions we're wiping out like, fifty gazillion ogryn and stuff.
But I was playing the non sweat missions and like, I felt more like a commando. It seemed less "videogame." Especially if you use cover and stuff.
queen laurel
So, I was reading something about how our little rejects are punching way above ...
this game suffers from luddo narrative dissonance
covert kiln
What's luddo?
queen laurel
What's luddo?
covert kiln
Interesting! Didn't know it had a term.
summer mural
So, I was reading something about how our little rejects are punching way above ...
yeah if you play on lower difficulties it feels much more realistic, like a proper assault, you dont just barge into an entire battalion jammed into each room
covert kiln
But yeah, playing it like a "smart" reject is kinda fun. the LoS system for mobs in intersing, you CAN kinda sneak.
dapper gyro
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zrjpzrms/adepta-sororitas-bat...
If the SoB win, I call it rigged.
queen laurel
Interesting! Didn't know it had a term.
take the beast of nurgle for example we shouldn't be even be able to go near it
just touching this thing literally rots you away this thing eats us
covert kiln
Right? Like, I get that people want a super challenge and sweat and stuff, but there is something to like playing tactics that aren't "managing game mechanics" and instead "playing a reject."
summer mural
well its fs's fault
covert kiln
O.o
summer mural
because some abilities and keystones also become very irrelevant the higher you go into difficulty
covert kiln
FS stops you from playing lower difficulties tactically?
queen laurel
well its fs's fault
i mean it's not though warhammer is a setting where you need to do a lot of liberties to make a game version work
summer mural
stuff like suppression is basically completely irrelevant in havoc
and stuff like exec stance where vet has to stand still is next to impossible to use
summer mural
FS stops you from playing lower difficulties tactically?
no, other way around
the higher in difficulty you go the more insane whats actually happening on screen factually becomes
fighting 2 captains and a bon at once in a sea of poxwalkers
as rejects
covert kiln
I don't see how that stops someone from playing a lower level tactically
summer mural
you can, im saying you cant do that on higher levels
rocky gale
He's talking about how higher difficulty stops you playing like that
summer mural
Im agreeing with you
covert kiln
Right. YEah.
summer mural
lower difficulties are more immersive
covert kiln
Cause people don't wanna tactic. They wanna be the heroes who solo ten ogryn.
queen laurel
yeah basically high difficulty forces you into becoming meta optimized monster
covert kiln
My fav is low light, lower difficulty. It becomes a proper horror game.
summer mural
yep
and you can actually soak in the aesthetic on lower difficulty
not that I do it, i like more combat and more fighting and more numbers personally
gaunt lily
and stuff like exec stance where vet has to stand still is next to impossible to...
tbf you can dodge while using executioners and aiming down sights, just gotta get used to lining up the shots
summer mural
why bother
you're putting in so much effort to use exe stance when its just easier and more effective to use voc
covert kiln
I love the tree killing mission. Probably best ambiance.
gaunt lily
the real problem with executioners is that it works best with bullet hoses instead of sniper lol
summer mural
yeah its been like that for a while
gaunt lily
you're putting in so much effort to use exe stance when its just easier and more...
because i didnt join the guard to wave a bible around?
gaunt lily
it feels like a zealot skill to me tbh, like i dont hate it but its not what i like to play 
summer mural
fair enough
that was in the context of difficulty anyway
if your enjoying yourself, use whatever you want
gaunt lily
its hard to use at auric maelstrom difficulty but it can work, i wont comment on havoc because I dont play that high though
id rather not balance things based on havoc lol
summer mural
i just find myself losing more and putting in a tonne of effort to be good with exec stance
which I personally dont enjoy
when I can pop voc and just aim as I please since everything is staggered
plus your team loves you for the gold toughness
covert kiln
The stun from the yell is such a life saver, too.
summer mural
yeah theres no question its currently the superior pick, but if you dont enjoy using it then you should def try something else
and no game should def not be balanced around havoc, what actually needs to be done is fs needs to fix and buff a bunch of shit on vets skill tree
gaunt lily
not being taxed to hell and back for not playing a strict archetype would be nice
summer mural
for real
vet has a super strict meta, pretty sure the strictest in the game rn, you're only brought into havoc because of survivalist and golden toughness from voc
anything else and vet is just not a good contributor at that level of challenge
unless you're like super good and stuff, but im talking generally
queen laurel
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zrjpzrms/adepta-sororitas-bat...
sisters that truly specialize in witch hunting
well that is certainly something
rocky gale
Perfect accompanyment for Greyfax
dapper gyro
Even if all abilities are good, there will aways been something better than other. The more you try to making things different, the more they become archetypes. If less of that, then things are less interesting.
queen laurel
Perfect accompanyment for Greyfax
they have access to maces that literally nullify psychic powers
nice magic mage here's a giant hunk of metal
dapper gyro
anything else and vet is just not a good contributor at that level of challenge
I disagree with this as a vet main. Skill celling is way higher than just spamming VOC. But if you reach there, you are stronger than Arbites.
rocky gale
they have access to maces that literally nullify psychic powers
Bringing 3 squads of these guys to a fight vs Thousand Sons would be such BM
queen laurel
Bringing 3 squads of these guys to a fight vs Thousand Sons would be such BM
yeah imagine having psychic powers and then some religious warriors just bring something that completely counteracts your entire character
covert kiln
Would it work against like, a giant rock on their head?
I mean, sure you can't zap 'em, but they still die to a tank dropped on them.
nova scaffold
good question: if the imperium had evidence that thier is a lost technology to close the warp rift but they had to protect it
which space marine chapter unlucky enough to sent and tolerated the quars
like they need it to protect and well dug it out
would make sense to send the imperial fist
sending the black Templar is a horrible idea
storm jungle
which space marine chapter unlucky enough to sent and tolerated the quars
For the last time
SPACE MARINES DO NOT TOLERATE ALIENS.
NONE OF THEM DO
THEY ARE BRAINWASHED MASS-MURDERERS
nova scaffold
so regiments?
summer mural
no
just send in a radical inquisitor
thats probably your best bet
especially if theres tech involved
storm jungle
^
nova scaffold
just send in a radical inquisitor
so thats the ones gonna protect the device to close the warp rift
summer mural
also its actually possible another inquisitor arrives with a space marine company and kills that inquisitor and all the xenos for being xenos loving scumbags
nova scaffold
a bunch of mentally unstable crack addicts
summer mural
dapper gyro
Most RG are more or less tolerance to the abhuman and xenos.
Aside from some special cases like Space Shark...
nova scaffold
do they somewhat tolerate abhumans like quars if they have something that is extremely important like a Device to close the warp rift?
storm jungle
they're more likely to just kill the quar and use the device themselves
nova scaffold
i mean the quars will assist in digging it out and try to transport it where was cadia
dapper gyro
They would, but after the mission is done, they would most likely dispose the quars.
nova scaffold
oh :(
summer mural
the imperium is not fair
they do irrational mean shit
rooted entirely in discrimination and intolerance
dapper gyro
RGs are like the easiest to work with, but they are still not kind.
If you get the Salamender, they will eat the quars before the mission start...
nova scaffold
RGs are like the easiest to work with, but they are still not kind.
rg?
queen laurel
which space marine chapter unlucky enough to sent and tolerated the quars
ok dude seriously just drop it at this point. This is the equivalent of asking which subsect of the ku klux klan is accepting of black people
nova scaffold
oki :(
queen laurel
like the imperium is genuinely racist and horrible
summer mural
did nurgle get like a massive power boost when the emperor used to defecate
covert kiln
The Emperor farts, Nurgle laughs.
nova scaffold
did nurgle get like a massive power boost when the emperor used to defecate
thier is a nurgle daemon having a time if his life becomes he is basically employed by the custodian just to fart on the recruit face
nova scaffold
The introvert marines
their primarch is hiding thier
nova scaffold
raven guard
atlease is better than nothing
median star
even still the only time theyd even consider helping or asking any xenos for help would be the alternative being 100% death and even then theyd probably hesitate
nova scaffold
even still the only time theyd even consider helping or asking any xenos for hel...
in that scenario which previously the inquisitor's classified the quars as abhumans after they saved him from a assassination
like just convince others that they are actually just a long lost humans but uglier
median star
not even her orobably go huh youre a funny little guy and maybe just maybe recruit the ones directly involved and put the rest to the sword
nova scaffold
now they are promoted from kill on sight to maybe kill on sight if they are sus
median star
i think youre looking at it from the wrong perspective the likely hood of your funny little worm ppl not being curb stomped into super hell immediately on contanct w another species in 40k is near zero for everyone besides the tau theyd probably get along great w the tau
nova scaffold
i think youre looking at it from the wrong perspective the likely hood of your f...
those are ant eaters
these are the toulmore which is basically Scottish
median star
yea id definitely purge these abdominal xenos if given the opportunity
median star
plenty of penal legions to work as fodder for the imperium
median star
not when its a xeno
nova scaffold
1 billion dollars or 2 billion
celest dome
tf they do to you
Not being human
nova scaffold
atlease they are classified as abhumans
celest dome
Also an Inquisitor decreeing them as Abhuman wouldn't matter seeing how the Beastmen went in different sectors
tough haven
No
nova scaffold
in the scenario
nova scaffold
whats the bear minimum
tough haven
Also as cacti said, even most beastmen got culled
celest dome
There are Subs, which look like Mutated human, but those are only used as slave force or as Penal regiment
celest dome
Also as cacti said, even most beastmen got culled
Only in certain sectors though
nova scaffold
There are Subs, which look like Mutated human, but those are only used as slave ...
what happened if they come zealots
celest dome
If the Quar are OK with joining Chaos they could probably do well
nova scaffold
like somehow becoming even more zealot than the sister of battle somehow
celest dome
If Zealot find Subs ? The Zealot start to slaughter them (or die trying)