#40k-lore-chat

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nova scaffold
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yes

celest dome
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But Anteaters are mammals...

nova scaffold
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there is other animals in quar

nova scaffold
celest dome
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because birds dont exist
and mammals
That can be read as Bird don't exist
And mammals don't exist either

nova scaffold
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mb

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mammals do exist

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famously the pykpyk squirrels

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and no they dont eat it

median star
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are navigators on mechanicus ships ever also borged like the rest of the tech priest or are how would that work are navigators even allowed augments w their near alien physiology they sometimes have

nova scaffold
celest dome
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As it cause them to weaken their link to the Warp

median star
hallow saddle
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If u can justify it to make a story or character work then yes

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If u wanna have a psyker brain in a jar it could work

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Like I'm imagining a heretic psyker that has Blackstone augments that can be used to focus their power

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And navigators are so secretive and set apart from everyone else that I'm sure you could have a very augmented navigator that's almost fused with the ship through bionics etc

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Most people would never know

near wasp
celest dome
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But they're much rarer

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Like think of the rarity of Psykers

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Now think of them being discriminated

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Then add to that that the tech isn't really common too and not really researched into

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So you get Augments; which are already rare

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And you get exceptionally rare stuff

winged jacinth
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There's rare psyker boosting augments and very common psyker head explosion augments

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I think its not uncommon for a navigator to be wired to their throne but that's really the voidship not augments

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They can usually still "see" even without eyes and im actually not sure ive ever seen a psyker with a prosthetic limb

young pecan
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Wonder if Big E could ever be affected positively by an augment

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Likely no

opaque coyote
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Cyber-eye he has

nova scaffold
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i had a headcanon theory that fidwog and space wolves somehow get alone well because they're both alcoholics

celest willow
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how correct would yall say this is

sharp pollen
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incomplete

nova scaffold
celest willow
sharp pollen
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ah, you mean the sins

nova scaffold
celest willow
celest dome
nova scaffold
celest dome
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Envy shared between Tzeench and Slaanesh

nova scaffold
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especially for the emperor childrens

celest willow
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slaanesh is less focused on it

nova scaffold
celest dome
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Nah Envy is still strong for Slaanesh

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Even greed tbh

nova scaffold
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like if you slightly acheve something

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congrats

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your skull will now be some emperor children piss bowl

celest willow
celest dome
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Both apply

celest willow
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slaanesh is less about hordeing and more about always wanting more

celest dome
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No it's pretty much both

nova scaffold
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can i be honest

celest willow
nova scaffold
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i hate the regular sized grey knights

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like i natrually assume to be like in ternimator armor

celest willow
nova scaffold
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its kinda like seeing dwane the rock johnsone being 5ft 3 inch

celest willow
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not the side gigs

nova scaffold
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like them being ternimator sized armor is acceptable

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like how it should be

celest willow
young pecan
nova scaffold
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like its way too small

young pecan
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The chaos gods are closer to pantheons like the Greek pantheon than the sins

young pecan
nova scaffold
young pecan
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Have your fun 💪

celest willow
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the more you look into slaanesh the more lust feels like it is just a side upgrade

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it is just mainly gluttony

celest dome
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Khorne: Wrath, Pride
Nurgle: Sloth, Gluttony
Slaanesh: Pride, Lust, Gluttony, Envy, Greed
Tzeentch: Envy, Greed, Pride

nova scaffold
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like this is acceptable scale and looks

celest dome
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So it represent quite well the 7 evils, as all of these are about excess

nova scaffold
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good question

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can warhammer play on massive map

young pecan
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Slaanesh is probably the most diverse of the chaos gods

nova scaffold
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like is almost 2x times bigger then the skirmish size map

celest willow
opaque coyote
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Clearly

nova scaffold
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and ACDC

young pecan
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Slaanesh could just as easily compete with Nurgle over poor peoples' favor as he could compete with Tzeentch for influential people

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Crazy

celest dome
opaque coyote
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And not the crushing flaws of hedonism and excess

opaque coyote
celest willow
nova scaffold
opaque coyote
young pecan
opaque coyote
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Rather than merely Slaanesh

celest dome
celest willow
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so this

celest willow
celest dome
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Even Sloth for Nurgle isn't really that correct

nova scaffold
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the rule is in the movement phase, all units has unlimited movement untill is in the BATTLEFIELD ZONE which is basically the combat zone

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untill the movement phase is over

celest willow
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nurgle is about stagnation

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slaanesh isnt

celest dome
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Nurgle doesn't amplify sloth, apathy sure, but not really sloth

opaque coyote
young pecan
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Yeah

celest willow
young pecan
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Nurgle is still very active even in his apathy

celest dome
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In Scourge of fate, they reference the seven prime sins, as the 7 virtues of Slaanesh

young pecan
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Decay and regrowth is a constantly moving cycle

young pecan
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So sloth isn't very accurate

celest willow
opaque coyote
celest dome
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It truly

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is

celest willow
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slaanesh feasts on the souls of its worshippers if they do nothing

opaque coyote
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"NO, HE'S PART OF MY DOMAIN!"

"NOO MINE MINE MINE!"

celest willow
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seems counter intuitive

young pecan
opaque coyote
celest dome
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And Nuffle when they get involved is like the Nerds changing the rules/game to make their Jock friend/brother play with them

young pecan
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That's a funny thought

opaque coyote
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The pursuit towards perfection or conpletition

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The best art, the most food, the most varied experiences

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Etc.

celest dome
celest willow
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ok ykw imma just let yall vote for it

celest dome
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As all chaotic pursuit is a path of excess

celest willow
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who gets greed out of the 4

celest dome
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Slaanesh

young pecan
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Slaanesh

opaque coyote
celest dome
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||You're not gonna like the answers|| KEKW_ogryn

young pecan
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Tzeentch will allow himself to lose if it benefits himself in the long run(?)

celest willow
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ok who gets sloth

young pecan
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Slaanesh

celest dome
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Slaanesh clown_hadron

languid meadow
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believe it or not Slaanesh

young pecan
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I PROMISE we're not trolling LMAO

opaque coyote
# celest willow who gets greed out of the 4

Slaanesh

But it also applies to Tzeentch on some level. Magnus's folly in trying to gain more knowledge.

Honestly I believe Tzeentch encapsulates pride more ironically enough. All the major disasters of the Thousand Sons are due to Hubris

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Tzeentch's main thing is leading people into traps and pulling the rug under them

celest dome
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But Pride is much more pointed in the case of Fulgrim and the rest of Slaanesh

opaque coyote
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Trickery

celest willow
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thats what am saying but it is 3 over 2

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ok wrath

outer wave
celest dome
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Slaanesh

young pecan
celest dome
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Khorne does not care for wrath

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only bloodshed

celest willow
celest dome
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Then Slaanesh

opaque coyote
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Again, I don't really think the Chaos Gods really apply to the seven deadly sins.

Because they intentionally have a lot of overlap and conflicting concepts. That's why they fight each other.

celest dome
opaque coyote
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I guess you can say it's

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Chaotic?

opaque coyote
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ba dum tss

young pecan
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Does Khorne not actually care for wrath though?

celest dome
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Only bloodshed

opaque coyote
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He does

young pecan
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One of the big ways he converts people (subconsciously at least) is preying on those who are wrathful

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I feel that wrath does actually apply to him

opaque coyote
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Khorne is about all forms of wrath tbh

celest dome
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Be it done in wrath, or joy

opaque coyote
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Whether it's the screaming and shouting

celest dome
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Khorne is war

opaque coyote
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Or the calm "I will dismantle you and ruin your life"

celest willow
celest dome
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Khorne is combat

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It does not care for rime or reason

outer wave
young pecan
outer wave
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^

celest dome
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So for example, if you have a duel, between 2 Master warriors.
Their competivness and search for excelency will empower Slaanesh.
But the blood shed will empower Khorne

young pecan
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You can make the argument that he does care about it, at least to some important extent

celest dome
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He use wrath

celest willow
celest dome
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But he also use bloodlust

young pecan
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Especially seeing as many of his followers are mindless raging idiots...

celest dome
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Should we put lust then too 🤷

celest willow
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slaanesh can avoid warth when it needs to but khorne cannot

outer wave
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Ngl though, an apathetic Khornate could be interesting to explore

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Someone that just murders but doesnt feel much for it as a whole

celest willow
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a slaanesh follow may sugar you up with words but a khornate follower is just gonna cut you in half

celest dome
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Fantasy had a character that was just happy to slaughter, no wrath at all

outer wave
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Really now?

languid meadow
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whimsy

celest dome
celest willow
celest dome
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Cause human are easy wrathful

celest willow
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khorne without wrath is like british food

opaque coyote
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Zen Berserkers are kind of an example

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But that's less apathy and more

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Enlightenment

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With bloodshed

celest willow
opaque coyote
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The eightfold path

outer wave
celest willow
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most give up at trying to pretend to be the good guys and just kill for the hell of it

opaque coyote
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Which as a side note is a metal as fuck concept

opaque coyote
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He doesn't really scream angrily anymore

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Just kills

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It is his only purpose

outer wave
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I see

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"Samurai" Berzerkers I think would be cool to explore

opaque coyote
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Yaass

outer wave
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Not just that, but them trying to overcome the influence of the Nails

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Failing to do so means you must be killed

celest willow
outer wave
# opaque coyote Katanas

Sort of like Masters Executioners or whatever those CSM units are called, but more focusing their rage into a single swipe

celest willow
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CHAT

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I HAVE THEORY

outer wave
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Basically duelists to the extreme and only concern themselves with duels

young pecan
celest dome
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Anger is to Khorne what Sex is to Slaanesh

celest willow
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hear me out what if most necrons lack sentience bc most where blanks

storm jungle
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They lack sentience because the c'tan sucked our their souls, this is mentioned in their codexes.

celest dome
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Blanks are sentient though

celest willow
storm jungle
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the nobles also did this knowingly

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(also blanks can have a ton of personality)

celest willow
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aw

young pecan
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Bequin is a good example

celest dome
celest willow
storm jungle
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Yeah but they arent blanks

celest willow
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kinda feels like a necron

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well damn

storm jungle
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also why make blanks

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when you got blackstone

celest willow
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;-;

celest dome
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Do you think they were trying to do Pariah cause they work similarly to the Blackstone ?

outer wave
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I wish Pariahs were still a thing in Necron lore

young pecan
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What are the ways you can fully destroy a necron?

outer wave
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Destroying their base of operations where they can peacefully regenerate back is one way

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You could make them inert by taking out their head pharon/overlord

young pecan
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Couldn't you also damage what allows them to teleport back for regeneration?

outer wave
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I guess you could

young pecan
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I'm guessing hitting the base is a lot more reliable though

celest willow
storm jungle
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Thats not a thing no

celest dome
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Wait would it be Overkill in that case

storm jungle
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the only way to perma-destroy a necron is make sure its remains where it gets restored in a tombworld's core is destroyed

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its Minecraft mob-spawner logic

celest willow
storm jungle
celest willow
storm jungle
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and he wasnt afraid

outer wave
storm jungle
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he just got caught by surprise

celest willow
outer wave
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Wouldnt they regenerate on the spot and get back up?

celest willow
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I honestly felt bad for bro

young pecan
storm jungle
storm jungle
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and like, most people dont bother because its a very "nerdy" detail

opaque coyote
outer wave
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40K IS A NERDY DETAIL

storm jungle
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SOME official animations do show it off like Tithes, but even then its here and there

opaque coyote
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Free Necrodermis

storm jungle
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its the same as like uh

outer wave
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Thats so weird

storm jungle
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how people can just dodge gauss cannon shots

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because 1 shot and our protagonist is dead

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lmao

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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necrons get nerfed a ton in lore/when facing off against people

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because otherwise everyone dies

opaque coyote
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Can Gauss rifles like

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Disintegrate things partially

storm jungle
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No lol

opaque coyote
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Damn

storm jungle
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unless its like something huge

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then it needs concentrated fire

rocky gale
storm jungle
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thats regeneration

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unrelated thing

outer wave
opaque coyote
outer wave
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Lemme see a necron swarm regenerate!

storm jungle
celest willow
# outer wave Garbage

a necron death is a big deal in lore but when your trying to milk the human factions you gotta play a little pretend

storm jungle
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marines only tank maybe 2-4 shots because plot/thick armor

young pecan
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I love that even scarabs are immensely deadly

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These are the mf repair creatures and they shred you

storm jungle
outer wave
storm jungle
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Also notice how the entire scarab swarm just largely ignores the charging marines

opaque coyote
# storm jungle Nah if its a person you are fucked

Smh they should've gone the way of the daleks.

Basically, their lasers can actually just instantly destroy anything.

But due to their extreme sadism. They made it so that it just barely kills you. So you suffer in agony instead.

storm jungle
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if they didnt they'd all be fucking dead

celest willow
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says whats worse being a necron slave or being part of the under hive

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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this is like asking "shot in the balls or shot in the dick"

celest willow
storm jungle
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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because im mindless

celest dome
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Necron I guess

storm jungle
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and i dont think anything

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lol

opaque coyote
outer wave
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I think Necrons would treat me better than Necromunda

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Or underhive

young pecan
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Was there anything behind the marines to destroy or repair

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Or is it for le plot

nova scaffold
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can we agree that beting in sport should be illegal

opaque coyote
young pecan
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Wtf no

nova scaffold
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or gambling in general

young pecan
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WTF NO

celest willow
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how bad are necron slave worlds?

opaque coyote
celest dome
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It's a revenue stream for the state and the sporting federation

celest willow
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cause i never really read that much about them

nova scaffold
opaque coyote
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95% of gamblers quit before they hit it big

storm jungle
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Id agree

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but also seeing those dumb idiots suffer is funny

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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humans are fucking morons

young pecan
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Another three thousand on black

outer wave
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I mean, I heard casinos in LA are drying up in terms of people coming in

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So in some way, it is dying

outer wave
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Might just become monetization

nova scaffold
# storm jungle Id agree

i want all casino to be closed because too much dumb fucks being in debt and literally is just rigged

outer wave
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Like DLCs and whatever

celest dome
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Only betting and gambling is soaring though

opaque coyote
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Jokes aside. I do agree that gambling is generally bad.

But it's something that can't really be illegalized. Because then people would just do it anyways

celest willow
opaque coyote
celest dome
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Hey, i'll be surprised if we're still here in 10 years

opaque coyote
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Nobody fucking cares enough to stop it

young pecan
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Guys what is your favorite dish from Israel clown_hadron

opaque coyote
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In fact, a lot don't want it to stop

young pecan
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I'll start, mine is falafel

celest willow
opaque coyote
nova scaffold
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like their is a guy who win in a casino and yet the place refuse to pay even tho he won legit

young pecan
opaque coyote
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So we'd have to defy literal instinct

nova scaffold
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is a scam

storm jungle
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anyway my favorite israeli meal is turkish tea

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I MEAN

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Israeli tea

young pecan
celest willow
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am egyptian

opaque coyote
celest willow
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it gives me inner peace

young pecan
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I lied my favorite aforementioned dish is Moussaka

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Okay I'm done

celest willow
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why do people like baked egg plant

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it has the feel of a really fibrous wet sponge

young pecan
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Really? It looks kinda appetizing

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Oh yeah the texture of eggplant sucks

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Other than that it sounds like it tastes good

celest willow
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but you gotta char not bake it

nova scaffold
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what one thing yall want it to be illegal

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to me is either dropshipping

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and gambling

celest willow
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am so tired of paid crates

nova scaffold
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like yall see the ad for "ai powered puppy that is almost like a real puppy" sold for almost 70 bucks

celest willow
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if ur gonna be p2w just take my money and give me what i want, if your gonna be play2win just dont add crates

nova scaffold
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its actualy just a battery powered dog that is from alibaba for 5 dollars and all it does is just squeekes and moving slightly

celest willow
nova scaffold
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like you pay for a shitty chinese toy or object that is inflated price for 700%

celest willow
nova scaffold
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it happened alot

celest willow
nova scaffold
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now today you got "ai powered emotinal support panda robot perfect for depression"

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like what a way to use a mental problem for a shitty stuff animal for 2 dollar from aliexpress in bulk

nova scaffold
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like i fucking hate frontman skin because you only get it by paying a premium event pass

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i hate cod

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like if yall spend money for a garbage ass cod skin

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yall diserved to get bullied for being a whale

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like you need to get called slurs for paying for a company with a ceo being a shitty guy

celest willow
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cod isnt even fun anymore it is such a lost cause

nova scaffold
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yeah

celest willow
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idk why people still hang to it

nova scaffold
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or the funny hard R that is perfect to call them

nova scaffold
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like you got people who is spastic and cant focus

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like they will spaz out if they cant move or swap weapons for 0.0001 seconds

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like these hyper sweats who call casual "trash" meanwhile too scared to play ranked

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i hate them

opaque coyote
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ba dum tss

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Jeanstealers

nova scaffold
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who has more aura

storm jungle
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im biased for Homer

nova scaffold
storm jungle
nova scaffold
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will a quar become a ogryn friend because he made food for him

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like make a dish for him as a thank you

dapper gyro
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This time, it is a yes.

storm jungle
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^

nova scaffold
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yay :D

dapper gyro
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Though, it is 50/50. Some orgryn just eats everything.

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But some other, smarter ones, do know to appreciate.

nova scaffold
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you just see a 10ft tall orgyn become happy after a gwynt cook gave him a beetle stew

nova scaffold
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i like the drip and the fact that they are one of few units that can use shotguns

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and yes its a 6 barrel shotgun

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and also has a pillow strapped on the stock

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ngl is pretty funny that you got one guy in quar that just has a record player

sour hornet
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a womble?

nova scaffold
nova scaffold
sour hornet
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oh

nova scaffold
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you got also a crusader cook

valid needle
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Skibidi o skibidi, who is the rizziest of them all.

nova scaffold
valid needle
valid needle
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I am up for work in 4 hours, at this point death is a preferred alternative

surreal nest
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God I wish I had a job I'd be so good at it

nova scaffold
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yoo @dapper gyro

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do the imperium has a mining team?

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like the fidwog miners?

crystal forum
nova scaffold
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i know lore wise the fidwogger miners are known for being the best

crystal forum
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they fight underground a lot

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which is why they have shotguns unlike most guardsmen

nova scaffold
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sapper and assult role

crystal forum
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they're one of several elite krieg units

nova scaffold
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oh they are alike

crystal forum
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by elite i mean they managed to survive a few battles

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and they get slightly better gear

nova scaffold
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meanwhile to be a fidwog miner is to be experinced in training and be a rhyfler for years

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so technically fiddy are more experinced

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especially in experinced

crystal forum
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during vraks the krieg engineers were involved in sabotaging enemy tunneling attempts

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and even managed to breach some bunkers using tunnels themselves

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they way they're dressed and equipped is akin to WW1 trench raiding parties

nova scaffold
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meanwhile fidwog miner do use the tactic of digging under a trenches and blow it up with sheer amount of explosive

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and practically do the same

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they do go behind enemy line and sabotage

nova scaffold
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like the shotguns

crystal forum
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they're shotguns

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what more is there to say

nova scaffold
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like whats the differnece aganst the Twyrf FF-10

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its a drum mag fed automatic 10 gauge shotgun

crystal forum
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the difference is the krieg one doesn't have pointless fluff lore. it just looks cool and is a shotgun

nova scaffold
crystal forum
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alright fine

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you're lucky that imperial armour was autistic

nova scaffold
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:D

crystal forum
nova scaffold
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well the FF10 is slightly better due to the drum mag is removable

crystal forum
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this lore is mostly outdated

nova scaffold
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true

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lets just say its also 10 gauge

crystal forum
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since it also stated that the engineers have a dual hose gas mask

nova scaffold
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hm

crystal forum
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which is true for the 2007 models

nova scaffold
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thats a advantage since fidwogger miners dont have gas mask

crystal forum
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but not this year's release

nova scaffold
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also most of them are orgininally just regular miners that is trained alot

nova scaffold
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love it

crystal forum
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i prefer the older models

plush mason
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ok i got to ask, where are these anteater people from?

nova scaffold
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cogget club is lovely

plush mason
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wtf is quar?

crystal forum
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DONT ASK YOU FOOL

nova scaffold
plush mason
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ah so a wargaming thing

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got it

nova scaffold
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basically is a world is in war due to the royalist ruling class system

nova scaffold
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you got 15mm and 28mm

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the 15mm is metal

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the 28mm is newer and you got plastic or resin

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the 15mm is only avliable from zombiesmith

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the plastic release is available in wargame Atlantic

nova scaffold
crystal forum
# crystal forum

you know, i just realized they gave this shotgun a tube magazine even though it has a revolver thing

nova scaffold
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since its automatic

crystal forum
nova scaffold
plush mason
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arent the grenediers the more trench raider/storm trooper memembers of the DKOK?

plush mason
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i know

crystal forum
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also i prefer how the older ones are more faceless. i dont get the concept of making kriegers of all things have personality

nova scaffold
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we debate on whos better, a fidwog miner vs a kreig miners

plush mason
crystal forum
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the new engineer team looks like a rejected kill team

nova scaffold
crystal forum
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i dont care about them

nova scaffold
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btw they got a update

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now is more red just to make it easier to identify as fidwog due to they are mistaken for different factions

crystal forum
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or the veteran squad

nova scaffold
crystal forum
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it's just another faction losing individuality

surreal nest
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Im ngl I think its just the paint job

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Maybe im just annoyed you said krieg and losing individuality in the same sentence though

nova scaffold
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do warhammer bits work with quar bit?

arctic talon
arctic talon
# surreal nest

Regarding the paint job the green grenadiers are another regiment from the poster child one

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Bcs they got released after the poster child regiment in vraks got sent to a penal legion lol

surreal nest
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Yeah you're right I just wanted to disagree

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I am somewhat not happy with krieg after the 10th launch for imperial guard

arctic talon
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They’re very whatever to me

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lol

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The new krieg minis are fine imo, my only real complaint is the armor the engineers have now

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It’s really bulky

surreal nest
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I like them I'm just salty that the entire 10th launch for guard was dedicated to krieg

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combat engineer and heavy gunner models are lowk fire tho

arctic talon
#

But that’s an unfortunate case of resin vs plastic

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Can’t do the armor the same

arctic talon
#

And then Idfk what GW’s gona do after that

surreal nest
#

I'm honestly fine with mixing Catachan in my army

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Krieg just break my cohesion

arctic talon
#

Reasonable

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In any case I genuinely don’t know what GW’s gona do after they refresh the “core” 3

surreal nest
#

Probably introduce more fuck ass book characters

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astra militarum is like a crossover episode lmfao

#

The gaunts ghosts! They showed up with ursula cred? AND THEN LORD SOLARS HERE? What's next, Minka Lesk???

dapper gyro
#

It would be better of they let each regiment has a specialty squad, rather than the half ass separation between regiments at the moment.

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Like Krieg already has combat engineer squad, which also fit their siege warfare theme.

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Catachan could be some skirmish, similar the the countless SM units.

surreal nest
#

I'd prefer if regiments were seperate entities frankly

dapper gyro
#

Nah, too much of overlap and difficult to balance.

#

It also makes them less original.

surreal nest
#

I don't think its healthy for an entire year of guard to be dedicated to a specific regiment however that be me opinion, yarghe

dapper gyro
#

Just look at the SM overall... Unless you are some big name chapter with significant rule different, like BT, DW and GK, most are just SM of different colour.

surreal nest
#

I mean yeah but the fluff is different no?

dapper gyro
#

And?

surreal nest
#

You don't feel like fluff rules are important?

dapper gyro
#

If you take on the fluff, guard regiments works together all the time and each of them do their strongest suit on the field.

#

And so, having specialty squad dedicated to each regiment makes even more sense.

surreal nest
#

Well yeah but my argument is purely I dont like that guard players might wait a year to get a batch of units that aren't applicable to their army

surreal nest
#

that's cool

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i admit im a brickwall that's just annoyed about not getting any cool new vehicles for my cadians

dapper gyro
#

Well, you wrote that you want guard to be separated entirely... well... that's what exactly GW is doing, 1 guard team/edition...

surreal nest
#

seperate in the sense that we can have a krieg release and a cadian release

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one specific regiment getting all the new models is disappointing, wouldn't happen if they were released as their own thing I believe. But I recongize its unrealistic.

dapper gyro
#

Making different stuff for each guard cost way more than something like SM, which can just be recoloured.

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Hence why I suggest 1 or 2 squads per regiment, then you play as a combined troops.

gaunt lily
#

to an extent i think the recent string of big releases for guard has built some unrealistic expectations for future guard stuff, the rogal dorn will probably remain the singularly biggest actual new thing we get outside of the plastic refreshes and characters on horses

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I wouldnt mind some plastic forgeworld rereleases though, Salamander Command/Scout Tank and Colossus Bombard come to mind as simple kits that could have meaningfully distinct datasheets

hallow saddle
#

love those forgeworld paintjobs too

vagrant fox
#

Gw will bring back the ragnarok instead of the dorn trust me bro

surreal nest
#

I mean to be fair the cadian refresh was truly amazing. I really am just a little unnecessarily peeved that I got no new toys

#

Like come on fellas we can do a big krieg release and maybe an updated tempestor prime!

arctic talon
#

They gave scions aquillons

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thats their release for the next 5 years

#

/j

surreal nest
#

Ikr its so annoying

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Because I LOVE the aquilons but I know thats my rations for the decade

dapper gyro
#

The thing is that if they give Cadian something, that's something less for other regiments. Then you will hear cry from the other guy.

#

It is a no winning situation for GW..

surreal nest
#

Thats relatively true, but I draw the exception at the fact that the cadians are a relatively generalized unit lore wise

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As least compared to the krieg or catachan, yknow etc

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So a unit for cadians is a unit for a lot of separate regiments

nova scaffold
#

rate their fit

iron lantern
#

It'd be funny if Big E stood up to go to the toilet and then Grey Knights turned up to beat the shit out of him

nova scaffold
#

yooooo

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found one 15mm quar for 1 dollar

iron lantern
#

"We will call him if you try anything" - Custodes

iron lantern
#

Grey Knights fought Space Wolves

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and lost

nova scaffold
#

yeah

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lose to norse drunken furries

iron lantern
#

they would lose to a single R-VR

nova scaffold
iron lantern
#

I would imagine that if space wolves and carcharodons met they would just awkwardly stand in silence with each other

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seeing as theyre both furries but one is more scaly lol

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and carcs are probably anti social to the point where the dont know to how to start a conversation lmao

nova scaffold
#

their is many quar factions and i wonder which regiments do work well wit quars

#

like will creeven work with kreig?

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due to they are good at trench works

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but they dont use same tactics

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like they sometimes do use the conbine arms

opaque coyote
#

"Daughters of Khaine"
Looks inside
Men

nova scaffold
#

or just not use same equipments

opaque coyote
#

||Yes I know they're mostly slaves and shit I just wanted to make a meme||

nova scaffold
#

their is few tractors that would be nice for the imperium to use like the Mogyn Light Tractor

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like it perhaps useful since it goes same speed both directions

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basically like a light spg

#

also in quar standard is ancient

#

which is used for 9 decades since its first time in service

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sadly its rather suffer from reliabillity issue

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fun fact

nova scaffold
#

the ailthean is actually based off the mogyn suspention and tracks

iron lantern
#

They just look like this

nova scaffold
nova scaffold
nova scaffold
#

yoo @iron lantern

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wanna hear something funny

nova scaffold
#

since it was overweight it had to make a sacrafice

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which is the fact that they cant turn the turret and move at the same time

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because they had to disconnect the engine from the tract and reconnect to the turret drive to move the turret

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and no they dont reset the positions so the driver had to trust the commander when it comes with directions

lofty mason
#

Can Imperium in its current state win against all-out Necron?

storm jungle
#

Nope.

summer mural
#

nah

storm jungle
#

If necrons ever full awoke the Imperium would get steamrolled, this has been a plot point forever

summer mural
#

i dont think anyone can win all out against necrons

storm jungle
#

Yeah ^

#

they are THE most technologically advanced species in the setting

shadow plover
storm jungle
#

they got a dynasty whos got a hologram board that can for example blow up any single planet in the galaxy

summer mural
#

although

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I have a hard time visualizing like the bipedal necron types fighting in melee

#

I know they can

#

I just cant picture them doing twirling or whatever

storm jungle
#

They dont twirl yeah

shadow plover
#

your average warrior or immortal is clumsy but strong

storm jungle
#

Warriors just smash/kill you with the gauss blades

storm jungle
#

its why you got actually scary fast melee units for crons

#

gun-based necrons job is to just walk forward in phalanxes and shoot

summer mural
#

basically terminators

storm jungle
#

Yep lol

summer mural
#

but from that one movie with the liquid terminator guy

storm jungle
#

Terminator 2 my beloved

#

glorping into his DMs

summer mural
#

classic.

queen laurel
lofty mason
#

I wonder what Warhammer 100k will look like 😂

vagrant fox
#

The Eldar would win even in their current state I believe 🙏 😔

lofty mason
#

Necron is probably the only "real" faction left fighting against Tyranids.

shadow plover
#

Even Necrons don't want the nids to eat everything else because who's left to rule over then

#

they want subjects

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slaves

storm jungle
#

Absolute gigachads

#

whats a realm to rule WITHOUT slaves?

lofty mason
#

Imagine Necron winning 40k and just go back to sleep KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
#

I MEAN subjects

lofty mason
#
  • Wake up
  • Purged the Milky Way
  • Got bored
  • Go back to sleep
queen laurel
lofty mason
queen laurel
hexed orchid
#

Walk up and purge the galaxy every now and then

sturdy sedge
#

I'm not sure current Imperium can win against anyone going all out

storm jungle
#

Its basically Necrons, Orks and Tyranids.

near wasp
#

Great there discussing slavery again

queen laurel
near wasp
#

If chaos united nobody could take them down

storm jungle
#

They could tbh

#

Necrons especially

near wasp
#

Ok maybe them

storm jungle
#

Yeah i wouldnt argue but we have thing slike the Pariah Nexus which kinda negate it

#

also BFG2 where they outright close the Eye of Terror

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

which isnt canon obviously but its basically a "they could do it if they wanted"

#

To be fair

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the dynasty in charge of that is a responsible one

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they wouldnt willy nilly blow planets up

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lol

queen laurel
near wasp
#

Listen man I forget about the skeletons in the closet sometimes

near wasp
#

I just woke up it's like 4am here

storm jungle
#

id blow up any planet that disagreed with me like a just ruler

summer mural
#

you mean like a....discord mod

storm jungle
summer mural
vagrant fox
#

dilara has already blown up two planets(chatters) that gave me stuff to read it's sheer tyranny

summer mural
#

Im trying to add another ram to my system, does anyone know if it has to be the exact same model again or can it just be same generation and speed

queen laurel
storm jungle
summer mural
#

i think its time we change the name of the planet

#

earth is kinda boring now

storm jungle
summer mural
#

cant we call it something cool now

#

like planet New Rome

queen laurel
summer mural
#

why the condition

#

you arent bored of the name earth?

queen laurel
summer mural
#

its an exclusively beneficial change KEKW_ogryn

#

call it like planet Keanu

#

no reason to keep calling it planet earth

#

70% of the planet isnt even earth

#

call it planet hydro

queen laurel
vagrant fox
#

You's disrespecting the hard work earthworms do

summer mural
#

who?

vagrant fox
#

our planet is called dirt for their glory

summer mural
#

we can call them hydroworms

vagrant fox
#

Eels are weird I don't respect that

lofty mason
#

Is it crazy to think that IRL humanity 40k will probably be more OP than 40k Necron. I mean look at the technological progress in the past 100 years. Assuming we are alive and thriving by then, we will likely be Forerunner or Xeelee level.

storm jungle
#

We are very likely to die on this planet lol

#

Humans usually invent nothing that changes our way of life in a huge way unless we are actively threatened or its just way to late to do anything about it

storm jungle
#

If we expand and make colonies to mars and the moon people will probably revolt and secede from us there too.

#

People like Musk say right now that people that couldnt pay for void voyages could pay their debt through what is essentially indentured servitude (aka literally slavery)

#

You want happiness and optimism just spread it to people/folk around you, the world is just a way messier place than we can really dwell or do something about it on unfortunately.

cinder pivot
hallow plover
#

"Sorry, there's inflation. Go wage another 10 years and we might let you get off world. Also you rent is due on your hab unit."

rocky gale
#

Literally the setting at the start of The Expanse, Earth colonises solar system, best and brightest go to the Martian terraforming project, poorest and desperate go out into the Asteroid belts and become miners. Problem is Earth owns everything. Mars gets into a position to claim independence, so it and Earth now equally claim the Asteroid belt as theirs, while the people born out there over generations in space are unable to live on a planet with gravity and are basically trapped working there while Earth and Mars gets all the resources and profit.

hallow plover
#

I should read the last book eventually

rocky gale
#

Good ole Revanchism

remote widget
#

And... a bunch of gundam shows?

rocky gale
# rocky gale Good ole Revanchism

Earth responds negatively to their declaration of independence, forcing them to militarise and delaying their terraforming project

#

Yea, but the Expanse is cooler

hallow plover
#

Isn't the martian terraforming a false hope thing?

#

If I remember it was doomed to fail

rocky gale
#

Na it was possible, they just kinda give up on near the end because of what happens

hallow plover
#

The lack of magnetic shield for the planet meant they could never grow anything because of radiations

rocky gale
#

Can't remember if it's in the books, but in the show they mention in one of the later seasons that the project had advanced to the point where the planet had a magnetosphere

#

and they talked about it potentially having it's own aurora borealis

#

It is treated as a doomed to fail thing, but it's more due to attitude

#

Like a lot of the younger people born on Mars don't really care about the project and are perfectly fine living in Domed cities

hallow plover
#

I might be misremembering it... i've read these novels as they came out back then

rocky gale
#

and then after the Ring incident it becomes an even lesser priority

hallow plover
#

Yea

#

||Unlimited planets||

rocky gale
#

Was trying to avoid spoilers

hallow plover
#

||"Unlimited"||

#

||It's more of a why develop mars when there's habitable-ish planets out there that could be accessible||

rocky gale
#

Yes and I was trying not to say that because it's a spoiler

hallow plover
#

🫣

rocky gale
#

Hence I was vague about the Ring incident, where someone who knew would know what I was talking about but people who haven't seen it wouldn't

hallow plover
#

Here. The black bars shall protect future readers from my foolish self

dapper gyro
#

We can't even unify people on earth to do anything right now...

hallow plover
#

At this point I think even with an external alien threat we wouldn't even be able to unify

tough haven
# crisp heath

I really don’t get the jet 2 holiday meme, I get it’s put over unfortunate things, but unless there’s a layer of context I’m not getting, it’s just playing an ad over a meme

crisp heath
#

Yeah its just a stupid meme

rocky gale
#

Yea it's an annoying advert that was played so often in the UK that's it's drilled into our subconscious. Then we turned it into an ironic meme

#

Anyway new Killteam leak

#

Brand new full Sisters Killteam, not just an upgrade Sprue

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

I think the Nightbringer is going to be there as a like Neutral enemy both sides are trying to kill

#

Like the last Killteam box had extra Nids in it and rules for a Co-op Killteam game mode where both sides worked together to hunt down the Nids

queen laurel
#

I hope so because

rocky gale
#

So maybe it's like that but both sides are fighting while trying to kill it

queen laurel
#

That is crazy work to put the shard of a god in a skirmish game

shadow plover
valid needle
summer mural
#

I find how hive cities are layered cities stacked on top of each more interesting after I've seen some visual evidence in dt

#

With all the large ceilings on top with the fans

#

When you're "outdoors"

#

Or like, even in clandestium gloriana

#

The proper surface of atoma is all the desert hourglass stuff right

winged jacinth
#

Yeah that's just inside the hive skin which is in tatters

#

You can see scaffolding and panels for it in some of the areas

winged jacinth
#

Tfw musks nuke the icecaps idea would provide 1% of an atmosphere which solar wind would blow away within the decade

summer mural
winged jacinth
#

The outer shell of the hive

#

You cant just call it the wall because there's a trillion walls

summer mural
#

Oh..so the hourglass isn't even on the surface?

winged jacinth
#

It sort of is?

#

The skin has huge holes in it which is where all the sand came from

summer mural
#

Is there another hive layer on top of the hourglass i guess is what I mean

winged jacinth
#

I think tertium is supposed to have atmospheric shielding too but who knows how long that's been broken

#

On top? Yes
Its on the exterior edge of the mid-hive

#

There's like a protective screen around it but its where landers and stuff were meant to enter the hive

summer mural
#

But it's still in the city, there's a wall around it that's cracked and so the sand is coming in from outside?

winged jacinth
#

Yeah kinda more like a screen?
Atoma is a hellscape of radioactive dust storms and the skin is for keeping that out

summer mural
#

Damn

winged jacinth
#

Oh yeah we've never even seen the spire

summer mural
#

I thought the hourglass was the topmost layer and thus exposed to the elements

winged jacinth
#

Throneside is like the top of midhive i think

#

The hive is kinda cone shaped so i guess there isnt stuff directly above most of the hourglass

summer mural
#

But I guess I'm assuming good chunk of the hive is underground relative to atomas surface but I think it's more accurate to assume the hive is building upward relative to it

winged jacinth
#

Its unclear but there are dozens of floors above and below where we've seen

#

The torrent isnt even the real underhive it gets worse lol

summer mural
#

Well, with hourglass we can assume it's above "sea" level right

#

Since sand is blowing in

winged jacinth
#

Yeah

summer mural
#

And it's not underground at least

winged jacinth
#

Its where lifter ships are supposed to dock and interact with the hive, you can look down at a few points we're very high up

summer mural
#

Hive city is insane, when you consider all the train yards too

winged jacinth
#

Tertium is the size of a country but stacked on itself 100 times

#

I think it had a population of like, 3 billion? Before uh, you know lol

#

Population: less

summer mural
#

Also it's funny when you go to the more posh looking maps, like throneside

#

And you look up and see a big skybox and see another ceiling at the top

#

With the giant ventilation fans

winged jacinth
#

Yeah throneside is like a bourgeois district

#

The nobles live in the spire even farther up

summer mural
#

So

#

What about the interzone void

winged jacinth
#

Im... not sure? I think its in between areas on a floor?

#

Its hidden in something like an enormous cooling system

summer mural
#

It reminds me of the place in coruscant , you know like the area where Palpatine and dooku had their secret meetings

#

Like a big factory hub with just pipes and stuff

vagrant fox
#

☝️ 🤓

winged jacinth
#

Ah i guess its between floors vertically not between areas laterally

#

Im still pretty sure its a giant cooling duct

summer mural
#

It's crazy that it's so super cooled, you're basically in like a giant computer processor and your like a microbe that found it's way to the 1 inch area where the cooling happens

winged jacinth
#

Its probably between two floors of foundries and manufactories and probably doesn't cover the whole cross section of the hive

#

But yeah stuff doesn't just... get cold

vagrant fox
#

I think someone guesstimate-calculated the base of the hive to be ~100 km based on artwork. It's a bit big

winged jacinth
#

If anything a hive would need extensive cooling or the heat of human life would turn the inner hive into an oven

#

Not to mention braking trains and stuff

summer mural
#

So surface of atoma is radiated wasteland?

winged jacinth
#

The london subway tunnels have been steadily heating up for their whole existence which i think is a decent comparison

#

Its for sure a wasteland of dust and sand im pretty sure its radioactive

summer mural
#

That'd quite judge dredd esque I guess

#

And cyberpunk 2077

#

A... bunch of shit ig

winged jacinth
#

Its not unusual in 40k

#

If i had to guess

crystal forum
#

why would atoma be irradiated

#

is it because of space radiation

summer mural
#

Because radiation is good for bones

winged jacinth
#

We know there are two hives but we're in tertium so a third one might have had an... accident

vagrant fox
#

Side product of 40k industry, don't worry about it

winged jacinth
#

I remember lines about radiation on hourglass missions

summer mural
#

Also there's a spire reaching to the top of the hive right, I wonder if there's a balcony there with a nice view KEKW_ogryn

crystal forum
#

anyways this is why everybody should use steel legion uniforms

vagrant fox
#

I suppose if it doesn't have an ozone layer anymore the UV radiation is popping off, but I don't think that's what meant by radiation

summer mural
#

It's probably man made radiation

#

Accidental or otherwise

#

Or a byproduct

crystal forum
#

i don't understand why that would be the case since the imperium doesn't really use nuclear power or nuclear weapons that often

vagrant fox
#

It's really cool to use atomics to dig with, it's rad as fuck

crystal forum
#

krieg was unique in being irradiated because nukes were actually used

summer mural
#

I dunno, maybe there's some history

#

Or there's accident

winged jacinth
#

The imperium regularly uses atomics

summer mural
#

Or maybe xenos lived there millenia ago and blew each other to bits

vagrant fox
#

tbf the lexicanum doesn't mention any real radiation but I seem to recall a voice line from the game mentioning it

winged jacinth
#

They're just no good for books

crystal forum
winged jacinth
#

Yeah

crystal forum
#

why would nukes be used on atoma

summer mural
#

Or maybe there's a single artifact somewhere on the planet that's radiated everything

rose thorn
#

Admech

summer mural
#

We dunno, tbh, there's another entire hive city we don't know anything about afaik

crystal forum
winged jacinth
summer mural
#

Also house mangolin is like

#

The rulers of atoma?

arctic talon
#

The admech love irradiating shit lol

#

radiation is "holy"

crystal forum
vagrant fox
#

I mean I wouldn't go into the wastes, irradiated or not

summer mural
#

I remember them mentioning who's in charge of the city

#

Some noble family or the other

winged jacinth
#

The navy has a comical five hundred and sixty gigaton missile

crystal forum
#

like armageddon

winged jacinth
#

Like i said i wasnt sure about radiation but i think masozi does give you a line about radiation coming through the hive skin but it could be solar

summer mural
#

Also

#

Was the ragged king some crime lord like Jabba the Hutt who got ran out by the nurgle lovers

arctic talon
#

new nightbringer mini

#

in Killteam as an NPO bossfight

rose thorn
#

LMAO

crystal forum
#

i cant read taco

rose thorn
#

That’s awesome

#

If necrons get an army box i might be intersted

winged jacinth
#

Remember when the iron warriors tried to fire a nuke at vulkan and it somehow didn't work out

summer mural
#

Somehow

vagrant fox
#

Primarchs are magic, don't have to explain anything

winged jacinth
crystal forum
#

vortex missiles are cooler

vagrant fox
#

A nightbringer fragment in killteam is a bit wack but I'm not against it

crystal forum
#

why explode things when you can remove them from existence

summer mural
#

He monopolized water supply or something?

#

Also, are the traitors like, winning

arctic talon
#

Also Raptors(generic but painted NL) and def new SoB minis

#

just based on the posing

winged jacinth
#

Stalemateish?

summer mural
#

I wonder if they are expanding physically or there are pockets of them all over the city

winged jacinth
#

We honestly don't know that much about the ragged king outside his interactions with zola

crystal forum
#

chaos wins just by existing

winged jacinth
#

There's nonspecific lines of battle all over

vagrant fox
winged jacinth
#

Lorewise its already over for tertium lol

arctic talon
#

team name for SoB is Celestian Insidiators

#

lol

winged jacinth
#

An infestation this bad i think the imperium would normally give up on even with the factories and stuff

crystal forum
#

nah the factorums are too valuable

winged jacinth
#

But we have poxer singing turned off and stuff so its gucci

summer mural
#

Also I've noticed they added new voicelines with the admonition cult, like the mysterious voice guys and they gave the corruptor eye demon a name

#

It's nice to know that's it's apparently just one entity

#

That's all over the place

winged jacinth
#

That's been hinted at / mentioned in passing for a while

vagrant fox
#

With some of the things going on in the wang supplement things look a bit bad but the Imperium works slowly so we got plenny of time thumbsup_ogryn

winged jacinth
#

Various lines about it having worked its way all throughout the hive

summer mural
#

Well

#

In the grand scale of usual 40k imperium problems

#

Atoma ain't so bad

crystal forum
#

i hope we get upper hive missions

vagrant fox
crystal forum
#

i want to kill hive nobles

winged jacinth
#

I dunno what the plan is for the corruptor lol it seems a little unsolveable

#

Maybe they can shrive it one day or something

vagrant fox
winged jacinth
crystal forum
summer mural
#

You got nurgle worshippers, traitor guard regiment, cultists, a big daemon, some beasts of nurgle here and there. All on single planet ?? That's quite tame by imperium standards

crystal forum
#

tertium's situation is pretty bad by normal standards

#

traitors openly attacking is not usually the norm

winged jacinth
#

The situation is also a lot better than it should be tbh

radiant lance
#

Are femboys still a thing in the 40k universe?

crystal forum
#

slaanesh

summer mural
#

If they send like....one more loyalist guardsmen regiment they could probably get the upper hand

winged jacinth
#

The poxwalker infestation is miraculously not out of hand among other things