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But Anteaters are mammals...
there is other animals in quar
cows are mammals so you saying its cannibalism?
because birds dont exist
and mammals
That can be read as Bird don't exist
And mammals don't exist either
oh a gammar error
mb
mammals do exist
famously the pykpyk squirrels
and no they dont eat it
are navigators on mechanicus ships ever also borged like the rest of the tech priest or are how would that work are navigators even allowed augments w their near alien physiology they sometimes have
Navigator and Psyker usually don't have augments, much less high tech ones
As it cause them to weaken their link to the Warp
arent their also specific augments that can inturn boost their psykic presence or better channel it id assume tho to be a lot rarer
If u can justify it to make a story or character work then yes
If u wanna have a psyker brain in a jar it could work
Like I'm imagining a heretic psyker that has Blackstone augments that can be used to focus their power
And navigators are so secretive and set apart from everyone else that I'm sure you could have a very augmented navigator that's almost fused with the ship through bionics etc
Most people would never know
They are called psi baffles I think
There are per se
But they're much rarer
Like think of the rarity of Psykers
Now think of them being discriminated
Then add to that that the tech isn't really common too and not really researched into
So you get Augments; which are already rare
And you get exceptionally rare stuff
There's rare psyker boosting augments and very common psyker head explosion augments
I think its not uncommon for a navigator to be wired to their throne but that's really the voidship not augments
They can usually still "see" even without eyes and im actually not sure ive ever seen a psyker with a prosthetic limb
There's the weird fucking
Cyber-eye he has
i had a headcanon theory that fidwog and space wolves somehow get alone well because they're both alcoholics
how correct would yall say this is
incomplete
is redditor, anger issue, autism and the last is a deviant art user
reddit is the seven sins rapped up together
ah, you mean the sins
lol the stench will cause normies to instantly kill itself
or this?
Pride to Slaanesh
envy is for slaanesh
Envy shared between Tzeench and Slaanesh
especially for the emperor childrens
tzeench is about hording knowledge and back stabbing
slaanesh is less focused on it
the emperor children is always envy of others
like if you slightly acheve something
congrats
your skull will now be some emperor children piss bowl
I feel like gluttony is more fitting for slaanesh over greed
Both apply
slaanesh is less about hordeing and more about always wanting more
No it's pretty much both
can i be honest
ok but if we did this fairly slaanesh is gonna be all of them
i hate the regular sized grey knights
like i natrually assume to be like in ternimator armor
tzeench madness
Pretty much
its kinda like seeing dwane the rock johnsone being 5ft 3 inch
a rule am using is just whoever embodies something the most
not the side gigs
seeing them with terminator heads feels wrong
I feel like attributing the seven sins to the chaos gods is really really reductive
like its way too small
reductive yes fun also yes
The chaos gods are closer to pantheons like the Greek pantheon than the sins
That's fair
i mean like big as ternimators
Have your fun 💪
the more you look into slaanesh the more lust feels like it is just a side upgrade
it is just mainly gluttony
Khorne: Wrath, Pride
Nurgle: Sloth, Gluttony
Slaanesh: Pride, Lust, Gluttony, Envy, Greed
Tzeentch: Envy, Greed, Pride
like this is acceptable scale and looks
Slaanesh initially was very much what Christian Evil is
So it represent quite well the 7 evils, as all of these are about excess
Slaanesh is probably the most diverse of the chaos gods
like is almost 2x times bigger then the skirmish size map
also prop the second worst to deal with
Nah wdym it's all about the drugs and sex
Clearly
and ACDC
Slaanesh could just as easily compete with Nurgle over poor peoples' favor as he could compete with Tzeentch for influential people
Crazy
Yes, but it's more rarely done cause you then need to have a lot of movement rounds and stuff
And not the crushing flaws of hedonism and excess
Fits given her main domain
He wants everything

yeah but what if they couldnt share sin
i mean my table is way over 6ft long and i come up a special rules for my quar wargame (that is sadly canceled in my birthday)
Would argue all the Chaos Gods represent it
That makes it much more difficult
Rather than merely Slaanesh
Slaanesh take all for the most part
so this
Even Sloth for Nurgle isn't really that correct
the rule is in the movement phase, all units has unlimited movement untill is in the BATTLEFIELD ZONE which is basically the combat zone
untill the movement phase is over
ok think of it has who amplifies it the most
nurgle is about stagnation
slaanesh isnt
Nurgle doesn't amplify sloth, apathy sure, but not really sloth
I think the Chaos Gods just have a bunch of overlap.
Which is why they fucking hate each other
Yeah
you could argue apathy is a form of sloth
Nurgle is still very active even in his apathy
In Scourge of fate, they reference the seven prime sins, as the 7 virtues of Slaanesh
Decay and regrowth is a constantly moving cycle
It's just a game
So sloth isn't very accurate
ok but I cant see slaanesh using sloth
It's the equivalent of 4 children fighting over a bunch of toys
slaanesh feasts on the souls of its worshippers if they do nothing
"NO, HE'S PART OF MY DOMAIN!"
"NOO MINE MINE MINE!"
seems counter intuitive
Tzeentch is the only child who shares toys with the others because it's fun to see how they use them
Slaanesh is more about the constant pursuit if anything
And Nuffle when they get involved is like the Nerds changing the rules/game to make their Jock friend/brother play with them
That's a funny thought
The pursuit towards perfection or conpletition
The best art, the most food, the most varied experiences
Etc.
In that case, it's more Slaanesh being a parasite on all of chaos
ok ykw imma just let yall vote for it
As all chaotic pursuit is a path of excess
who gets greed out of the 4
Slaanesh
Slaanesh
It fits their nature.
They love excess
||You're not gonna like the answers|| 
Tzeentch will allow himself to lose if it benefits himself in the long run(?)
ok who gets sloth
Slaanesh
Slaanesh 
believe it or not Slaanesh
I PROMISE we're not trolling LMAO
Slaanesh
But it also applies to Tzeentch on some level. Magnus's folly in trying to gain more knowledge.
Honestly I believe Tzeentch encapsulates pride more ironically enough. All the major disasters of the Thousand Sons are due to Hubris
Tzeentch's main thing is leading people into traps and pulling the rug under them
But Pride is much more pointed in the case of Fulgrim and the rest of Slaanesh
Trickery
Slaanesh embodies 6 of the 7 deadly sins, wrath being the only one they dont really embody
Slaanesh
You could argue that the latter of them losing is because they went AGAINST Tzeentch's intended use of his blessings and got greedy
no who embodies it the most not who cares the most
Then Slaanesh
Again, I don't really think the Chaos Gods really apply to the seven deadly sins.
Because they intentionally have a lot of overlap and conflicting concepts. That's why they fight each other.
ba dum tss
Does Khorne not actually care for wrath though?
Only bloodshed
He does
One of the big ways he converts people (subconsciously at least) is preying on those who are wrathful
I feel that wrath does actually apply to him
Khorne is about all forms of wrath tbh
Be it done in wrath, or joy
Whether it's the screaming and shouting
Khorne is war
Or the calm "I will dismantle you and ruin your life"
I would personally say he does care about anger; while bloodshed is the ultimate goal, his boons typically give you rage and anger, as well as the fact that he feeds off that emotion
But he does amplify rage and prey on people who let it control them
^
So for example, if you have a duel, between 2 Master warriors.
Their competivness and search for excelency will empower Slaanesh.
But the blood shed will empower Khorne
You can make the argument that he does care about it, at least to some important extent
He use wrath
even if he doesnt wrath is a by product of khorne
But he also use bloodlust
Especially seeing as many of his followers are mindless raging idiots...
Should we put lust then too 🤷
slaanesh can avoid warth when it needs to but khorne cannot
Ngl though, an apathetic Khornate could be interesting to explore
Someone that just murders but doesnt feel much for it as a whole
a slaanesh follow may sugar you up with words but a khornate follower is just gonna cut you in half
Fantasy had a character that was just happy to slaughter, no wrath at all
Really now?
whimsy
That's only cause Khorne dislike trickery
and thus he resorts to wrath
Cause human are easy wrathful
khorne without wrath is like british food
I think the like
Zen Berserkers are kind of an example
But that's less apathy and more
Enlightenment
With bloodshed
alot of khornate follower are apathetic if you listen to their speeches
The eightfold path
Do we have an example of a Berzerker that's achieved Zen in some capacity? I think the only one I could think of is the one that feeds his enemies' corpses to man eating plants
most give up at trying to pretend to be the good guys and just kill for the hell of it
Which as a side note is a metal as fuck concept
Kharn
He doesn't really scream angrily anymore
Just kills
It is his only purpose
Not just that, but them trying to overcome the influence of the Nails
Failing to do so means you must be killed
in a way khrone does embody apathy it is kind of his end goal in a way which is ironic
Sort of like Masters Executioners or whatever those CSM units are called, but more focusing their rage into a single swipe
Basically duelists to the extreme and only concern themselves with duels
Bloodlust doesn't mean you're popping a chub at the sight of blood though 
Anger is to Khorne what Sex is to Slaanesh
hear me out what if most necrons lack sentience bc most where blanks
They lack sentience because the c'tan sucked our their souls, this is mentioned in their codexes.
Blanks are sentient though
||and thus khorne does win wrath||
aw
Bequin is a good example
Cup of tanna sir
yeah but robotic blanks
Yeah but they arent blanks
;-;
Do you think they were trying to do Pariah cause they work similarly to the Blackstone ?
I wish Pariahs were still a thing in Necron lore
What are the ways you can fully destroy a necron?
Destroying their base of operations where they can peacefully regenerate back is one way
You could make them inert by taking out their head pharon/overlord
Couldn't you also damage what allows them to teleport back for regeneration?
I guess you could
I'm guessing hitting the base is a lot more reliable though
pretty sure if you keep killing a necron it can eventually run out of power and die for good but I dunno who told me that
Thats not a thing no
By using Overkill
Wait would it be Overkill in that case
the only way to perma-destroy a necron is make sure its remains where it gets restored in a tombworld's core is destroyed
its Minecraft mob-spawner logic

then what was that with the death mark fighting a salamander
What is what with it
why was the death mark afraid of the salamander
Szeras literally outright says hes not gonna repair him because he failed his mission lol
and he wasnt afraid
Okay, so I know what kinda response Im gonna get, but why is it when I see those 40k cinematics, necron warriors and destroyers just die and dont teleport back or whatever?
he just got caught by surprise
yeah I call that scared
Wouldnt they regenerate on the spot and get back up?
I honestly felt bad for bro
Tecknickully minecraft mob spawners are different because they break the laws of thermodynamics by constantly creating new mass instead of regenerating ☝️
He was half-torn apart, I doubt it
Literally just an animation thing
and like, most people dont bother because its a very "nerdy" detail
Time to make a Necron farm
40K IS A NERDY DETAIL
SOME official animations do show it off like Tithes, but even then its here and there
Free Necrodermis
its the same as like uh
Thats so weird
how people can just dodge gauss cannon shots
because 1 shot and our protagonist is dead
lmao
I always wonder
necrons get nerfed a ton in lore/when facing off against people
because otherwise everyone dies
No lol
Damn
CAUSE THOU PLOT DEMANDS
Or a sister with faith
Garbage
Yeah I thought of like "maybe there could be a scene where a Gauss weapon disintegrates somebody's arm but not the whole body"
Lemme see a necron swarm regenerate!
Nah if its a person you are fucked
a necron death is a big deal in lore but when your trying to milk the human factions you gotta play a little pretend
marines only tank maybe 2-4 shots because plot/thick armor
I love that even scarabs are immensely deadly
These are the mf repair creatures and they shred you
forces are few-
Im gonna fanon that the necrons are just fuckin' with the protags a bit and letting them have a win or two
Also notice how the entire scarab swarm just largely ignores the charging marines
Smh they should've gone the way of the daleks.
Basically, their lasers can actually just instantly destroy anything.
But due to their extreme sadism. They made it so that it just barely kills you. So you suffer in agony instead.
says whats worse being a necron slave or being part of the under hive
Both is miserable
I can imagine some Necrons that really hate organic life would do this
this is like asking "shot in the balls or shot in the dick"
ok but if you had to pick
Probably necron
I would rather shoot myself
because im mindless
Necron I guess
balls
...hopefully
Why did they do this
can we agree that beting in sport should be illegal
There is the possibility that every Necron warrior is still aware. They just can't express it.
Wtf no
or gambling in general
Why for ?
WTF NO
how bad are necron slave worlds?
It's a revenue stream for the state and the sporting federation
cause i never really read that much about them
iits sad and predatory, like its increadabily easy to be in debt
95% of gamblers quit before they hit it big

humans are fucking morons
Skill issue
Another three thousand on black
I mean, I heard casinos in LA are drying up in terms of people coming in
So in some way, it is dying
Might just become monetization
i want all casino to be closed because too much dumb fucks being in debt and literally is just rigged
Like DLCs and whatever
Only betting and gambling is soaring though
Jokes aside. I do agree that gambling is generally bad.
But it's something that can't really be illegalized. Because then people would just do it anyways
nah am sure our species is def gonna improve in the next decade trust guys !!!
It's like how prohibition failed miserably
Hey, i'll be surprised if we're still here in 10 years
Nobody fucking cares enough to stop it
Guys what is your favorite dish from Israel 
In fact, a lot don't want it to stop
I'll start, mine is falafel
best thing to do is make it less socially acceptable
...I like Hummus
ground level rage bait
Problem is that it seems somewhat ingrained in our minds
like their is a guy who win in a casino and yet the place refuse to pay even tho he won legit
Is it rage bait or is it commentary
So we'd have to defy literal instinct
is a scam
Lmfao you dickhead

anyway my favorite israeli meal is turkish tea
I MEAN
Israeli tea

oh you where being sarcastic you got my arab genes tweakin lol
am egyptian
...so does that mean that you took the bait

even if the bait angers me I do not want to give them the satisfaction of knowing so
it gives me inner peace
I hate that dish so much
why do people like baked egg plant
it has the feel of a really fibrous wet sponge
Really? It looks kinda appetizing
Oh yeah the texture of eggplant sucks
Other than that it sounds like it tastes good
egg plant is really good in baba ganoush
but you gotta char not bake it
what one thing yall want it to be illegal
to me is either dropshipping
and gambling
video game gambling
am so tired of paid crates
like yall see the ad for "ai powered puppy that is almost like a real puppy" sold for almost 70 bucks
if ur gonna be p2w just take my money and give me what i want, if your gonna be play2win just dont add crates
its actualy just a battery powered dog that is from alibaba for 5 dollars and all it does is just squeekes and moving slightly
eh it isnt that bad as a novelty item I just blame the idiots buying it
like its straight up a scam
like you pay for a shitty chinese toy or object that is inflated price for 700%
tbh you have to be hawaiian shirt tourist levels of dumb to buy it tho
it happened alot
there are alot of dumb people
now today you got "ai powered emotinal support panda robot perfect for depression"
like what a way to use a mental problem for a shitty stuff animal for 2 dollar from aliexpress in bulk
cod is not hiding it with skins
like i fucking hate frontman skin because you only get it by paying a premium event pass
i hate cod
like if yall spend money for a garbage ass cod skin
yall diserved to get bullied for being a whale
like you need to get called slurs for paying for a company with a ceo being a shitty guy
tbh I think your deserve to loose your money if your playing with a squid game skin on COD
cod isnt even fun anymore it is such a lost cause
yeah
idk why people still hang to it
CoD cringe
mentally ill addicts and mf with stckholm syndrom
or the funny hard R that is perfect to call them
like you got people who is spastic and cant focus
like they will spaz out if they cant move or swap weapons for 0.0001 seconds
like these hyper sweats who call casual "trash" meanwhile too scared to play ranked
i hate them
imagine a buntch of them run to you and rip off your pants and ran away
who has more aura
im biased for Homer
gork and mork
Need this to be in the game

good question
wdym question, its a truth bomb
will a quar become a ogryn friend because he made food for him
like make a dish for him as a thank you
This time, it is a yes.
^
Though, it is 50/50. Some orgryn just eats everything.
But some other, smarter ones, do know to appreciate.
you just see a 10ft tall orgyn become happy after a gwynt cook gave him a beetle stew
btw how you rate the gwynts uniforms
i like the drip and the fact that they are one of few units that can use shotguns
and yes its a 6 barrel shotgun
and also has a pillow strapped on the stock
ngl is pretty funny that you got one guy in quar that just has a record player
wtf is this
a womble?
is a gwynt chef
its a ant eater
oh
All timer gif ngl
you got also a crusader cook
Skibidi o skibidi, who is the rizziest of them all.
i will curb stomp you for that
Please
I am up for work in 4 hours, at this point death is a preferred alternative
God I wish I had a job I'd be so good at it
almost alike
i know lore wise the fidwogger miners are known for being the best
they fight underground a lot
which is why they have shotguns unlike most guardsmen
sapper and assult role
they're one of several elite krieg units
oh they are alike
by elite i mean they managed to survive a few battles
and they get slightly better gear
meanwhile to be a fidwog miner is to be experinced in training and be a rhyfler for years
so technically fiddy are more experinced
especially in experinced
during vraks the krieg engineers were involved in sabotaging enemy tunneling attempts
and even managed to breach some bunkers using tunnels themselves
they way they're dressed and equipped is akin to WW1 trench raiding parties
meanwhile fidwog miner do use the tactic of digging under a trenches and blow it up with sheer amount of explosive
and practically do the same
they do go behind enemy line and sabotage
lets talk about the weapons and equipment
like the shotguns
like whats the differnece aganst the Twyrf FF-10
its a drum mag fed automatic 10 gauge shotgun
the difference is the krieg one doesn't have pointless fluff lore. it just looks cool and is a shotgun
sometimes a equipment is important for a rhyfler
:D
well the FF10 is slightly better due to the drum mag is removable
this lore is mostly outdated
since it also stated that the engineers have a dual hose gas mask
hm
which is true for the 2007 models
thats a advantage since fidwogger miners dont have gas mask
but not this year's release
also most of them are orgininally just regular miners that is trained alot
i prefer the older models
ok i got to ask, where are these anteater people from?
cogget club is lovely
quar
wtf is quar?
DONT ASK YOU FOOL
quar is like warhammer but you not suffering from the price gauge
basically is a world is in war due to the royalist ruling class system
yeah
you got 15mm and 28mm
the 15mm is metal
the 28mm is newer and you got plastic or resin
the 15mm is only avliable from zombiesmith
the plastic release is available in wargame Atlantic
whats the diffrenece
you know, i just realized they gave this shotgun a tube magazine even though it has a revolver thing
nah it might be a a gas piston
since its automatic
they leaned more into the trench raider aspect with the new models
like armor and trench coats
arent the grenediers the more trench raider/storm trooper memembers of the DKOK?
we talking about miners
i know
also i prefer how the older ones are more faceless. i dont get the concept of making kriegers of all things have personality
we debate on whos better, a fidwog miner vs a kreig miners
this looks more like a grenedier to me
the new engineer team looks like a rejected kill team
so yeah how you think of fidwogger miners
i dont care about them
btw they got a update
now is more red just to make it easier to identify as fidwog due to they are mistaken for different factions
yup. it's like combat engineers were streamlined to look like grenadiers
or the veteran squad
you not a fan because of it
it's just another faction losing individuality
Im ngl I think its just the paint job
Maybe im just annoyed you said krieg and losing individuality in the same sentence though
do warhammer bits work with quar bit?
They have the grenadier skull plate on the gas mask. Which makes sense sorta since the engineers are part of the DKOK regimental storm trooper corp
Regarding the paint job the green grenadiers are another regiment from the poster child one
Bcs they got released after the poster child regiment in vraks got sent to a penal legion lol
Yeah you're right I just wanted to disagree
I am somewhat not happy with krieg after the 10th launch for imperial guard
They’re very whatever to me
lol
The new krieg minis are fine imo, my only real complaint is the armor the engineers have now
It’s really bulky
I like them I'm just salty that the entire 10th launch for guard was dedicated to krieg
combat engineer and heavy gunner models are lowk fire tho
11e is gona be all catachan lul
And then Idfk what GW’s gona do after that
Reasonable
In any case I genuinely don’t know what GW’s gona do after they refresh the “core” 3
Probably introduce more fuck ass book characters
astra militarum is like a crossover episode lmfao
The gaunts ghosts! They showed up with ursula cred? AND THEN LORD SOLARS HERE? What's next, Minka Lesk???
It would be better of they let each regiment has a specialty squad, rather than the half ass separation between regiments at the moment.
Like Krieg already has combat engineer squad, which also fit their siege warfare theme.
Catachan could be some skirmish, similar the the countless SM units.
I'd prefer if regiments were seperate entities frankly
Nah, too much of overlap and difficult to balance.
It also makes them less original.
I don't think its healthy for an entire year of guard to be dedicated to a specific regiment however that be me opinion, yarghe
Just look at the SM overall... Unless you are some big name chapter with significant rule different, like BT, DW and GK, most are just SM of different colour.
I mean yeah but the fluff is different no?
And?
You don't feel like fluff rules are important?
If you take on the fluff, guard regiments works together all the time and each of them do their strongest suit on the field.
And so, having specialty squad dedicated to each regiment makes even more sense.
Well yeah but my argument is purely I dont like that guard players might wait a year to get a batch of units that aren't applicable to their army
yeah im not against that
that's cool
i admit im a brickwall that's just annoyed about not getting any cool new vehicles for my cadians
Well, you wrote that you want guard to be separated entirely... well... that's what exactly GW is doing, 1 guard team/edition...
seperate in the sense that we can have a krieg release and a cadian release
one specific regiment getting all the new models is disappointing, wouldn't happen if they were released as their own thing I believe. But I recongize its unrealistic.
Making different stuff for each guard cost way more than something like SM, which can just be recoloured.
Hence why I suggest 1 or 2 squads per regiment, then you play as a combined troops.
Killteams or maybe minor regiment upgrade sprues like they do for spacemarine shoulder pads
to an extent i think the recent string of big releases for guard has built some unrealistic expectations for future guard stuff, the rogal dorn will probably remain the singularly biggest actual new thing we get outside of the plastic refreshes and characters on horses
I wouldnt mind some plastic forgeworld rereleases though, Salamander Command/Scout Tank and Colossus Bombard come to mind as simple kits that could have meaningfully distinct datasheets
love those forgeworld paintjobs too
Gw will bring back the ragnarok instead of the dorn trust me bro
Thats exactly what I mean we have options
I mean to be fair the cadian refresh was truly amazing. I really am just a little unnecessarily peeved that I got no new toys
Like come on fellas we can do a big krieg release and maybe an updated tempestor prime!
Ikr its so annoying
Because I LOVE the aquilons but I know thats my rations for the decade
The thing is that if they give Cadian something, that's something less for other regiments. Then you will hear cry from the other guy.
It is a no winning situation for GW..
Thats relatively true, but I draw the exception at the fact that the cadians are a relatively generalized unit lore wise
As least compared to the krieg or catachan, yknow etc
So a unit for cadians is a unit for a lot of separate regiments
It'd be funny if Big E stood up to go to the toilet and then Grey Knights turned up to beat the shit out of him
big E farting will cause the grey knights too close to be knocked unconscious
yooooo
found one 15mm quar for 1 dollar
You can just show them a picture of Leman Russ and they will leave
"We will call him if you try anything" - Custodes
what?
they would lose to a single R-VR
i imagine a senario when the space wolfs and fidwogs met and somehow get alone because they both alcoholic
I would imagine that if space wolves and carcharodons met they would just awkwardly stand in silence with each other
seeing as theyre both furries but one is more scaly lol
and carcs are probably anti social to the point where the dont know to how to start a conversation lmao
their is many quar factions and i wonder which regiments do work well wit quars
like will creeven work with kreig?
due to they are good at trench works
but they dont use same tactics
like they sometimes do use the conbine arms
"Daughters of Khaine"
Looks inside
Men
or just not use same equipments
||Yes I know they're mostly slaves and shit I just wanted to make a meme||
their is few tractors that would be nice for the imperium to use like the Mogyn Light Tractor
like it perhaps useful since it goes same speed both directions
basically like a light spg
also in quar standard is ancient
which is used for 9 decades since its first time in service
sadly its rather suffer from reliabillity issue
fun fact
How do I look yellow man?
the ailthean is actually based off the mogyn suspention and tracks
They just look like this
they can look forward
because they all are ant eaters
their is diff versions of the ailthean that is just a supply and mg carrier
yoo @iron lantern
wanna hear something funny
the ailthean is the most advanced tractor but it has a funny flaw
since it was overweight it had to make a sacrafice
which is the fact that they cant turn the turret and move at the same time
because they had to disconnect the engine from the tract and reconnect to the turret drive to move the turret
and no they dont reset the positions so the driver had to trust the commander when it comes with directions
Can Imperium in its current state win against all-out Necron?
Nope.
nah
If necrons ever full awoke the Imperium would get steamrolled, this has been a plot point forever
i dont think anyone can win all out against necrons

they got a dynasty whos got a hologram board that can for example blow up any single planet in the galaxy
although
I have a hard time visualizing like the bipedal necron types fighting in melee
I know they can
I just cant picture them doing twirling or whatever
They dont twirl yeah
your average warrior or immortal is clumsy but strong
Warriors just smash/kill you with the gauss blades
This yeah
its why you got actually scary fast melee units for crons
gun-based necrons job is to just walk forward in phalanxes and shoot
basically terminators
Yep lol
but from that one movie with the liquid terminator guy
classic.
hey that's enough to win melee fights in this universe
I wonder what Warhammer 100k will look like 😂
The Eldar would win even in their current state I believe 🙏 😔
Necron is probably the only "real" faction left fighting against Tyranids.
Even Necrons don't want the nids to eat everything else because who's left to rule over then
they want subjects
slaves
Imagine Necron winning 40k and just go back to sleep 
I MEAN subjects
- Wake up
- Purged the Milky Way
- Got bored
- Go back to sleep
we are not CA, say SLAVES with the HARD s
CA?
creative assembly
Necrons become Mass effect Reapers
Walk up and purge the galaxy every now and then
I'm not sure current Imperium can win against anyone going all out
Its basically Necrons, Orks and Tyranids.
Great there discussing slavery again
Not even chaos
If chaos united nobody could take them down
Ok maybe them
Yeah i wouldnt argue but we have thing slike the Pariah Nexus which kinda negate it
also BFG2 where they outright close the Eye of Terror
?????
which isnt canon obviously but its basically a "they could do it if they wanted"
To be fair
the dynasty in charge of that is a responsible one
they wouldnt willy nilly blow planets up
lol
Yeah but if chaos is becoming a problem I'm pretty sure the responsibility is gonna kick in
Listen man I forget about the skeletons in the closet sometimes
I just woke up it's like 4am here
Which is why you shouldnt give the Orrery to me
id blow up any planet that disagreed with me like a just ruler

you mean like a....discord mod

dilara has already blown up two planets(chatters) that gave me stuff to read it's sheer tyranny
Im trying to add another ram to my system, does anyone know if it has to be the exact same model again or can it just be same generation and speed
Earth would've been disintegrated if you have access to it
Good riddance tbh

fine but you can no longer listen to Jesper Kyd
you propose to change you get the consequence
its an exclusively beneficial change 
call it like planet Keanu
no reason to keep calling it planet earth
70% of the planet isnt even earth
call it planet hydro
Yeah but you proposed to change so in return you get something
You's disrespecting the hard work earthworms do
who?
our planet is called dirt for their glory
we can call them hydroworms
Eels are weird I don't respect that
Is it crazy to think that IRL humanity 40k will probably be more OP than 40k Necron. I mean look at the technological progress in the past 100 years. Assuming we are alive and thriving by then, we will likely be Forerunner or Xeelee level.
Probably not.
We are very likely to die on this planet lol
Humans usually invent nothing that changes our way of life in a huge way unless we are actively threatened or its just way to late to do anything about it
You want optimism, loo kat how we cant even share a single bit of rock now
If we expand and make colonies to mars and the moon people will probably revolt and secede from us there too.
People like Musk say right now that people that couldnt pay for void voyages could pay their debt through what is essentially indentured servitude (aka literally slavery)

You want happiness and optimism just spread it to people/folk around you, the world is just a way messier place than we can really dwell or do something about it on unfortunately.
The Expanse moment
That reminds me of weyland yutani in Alien Romulus
"Sorry, there's inflation. Go wage another 10 years and we might let you get off world. Also you rent is due on your hab unit."
Literally the setting at the start of The Expanse, Earth colonises solar system, best and brightest go to the Martian terraforming project, poorest and desperate go out into the Asteroid belts and become miners. Problem is Earth owns everything. Mars gets into a position to claim independence, so it and Earth now equally claim the Asteroid belt as theirs, while the people born out there over generations in space are unable to live on a planet with gravity and are basically trapped working there while Earth and Mars gets all the resources and profit.
Yea and martians have the fantasy that they could somehow set foot on earth and wage a ground war lol
I should read the last book eventually
Good ole Revanchism
Isnt that the plot of infinite warfare, and red faction, and all tomorrows
And... a bunch of gundam shows?
Earth responds negatively to their declaration of independence, forcing them to militarise and delaying their terraforming project
Yea, but the Expanse is cooler
Isn't the martian terraforming a false hope thing?
If I remember it was doomed to fail
Na it was possible, they just kinda give up on near the end because of what happens
The lack of magnetic shield for the planet meant they could never grow anything because of radiations
Can't remember if it's in the books, but in the show they mention in one of the later seasons that the project had advanced to the point where the planet had a magnetosphere
and they talked about it potentially having it's own aurora borealis
It is treated as a doomed to fail thing, but it's more due to attitude
Like a lot of the younger people born on Mars don't really care about the project and are perfectly fine living in Domed cities
I might be misremembering it... i've read these novels as they came out back then
and then after the Ring incident it becomes an even lesser priority
Was trying to avoid spoilers
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Yes and I was trying not to say that because it's a spoiler
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Hence I was vague about the Ring incident, where someone who knew would know what I was talking about but people who haven't seen it wouldn't
Here. The black bars shall protect future readers from my foolish self
We can't even unify people on earth to do anything right now...
At this point I think even with an external alien threat we wouldn't even be able to unify
I really don’t get the jet 2 holiday meme, I get it’s put over unfortunate things, but unless there’s a layer of context I’m not getting, it’s just playing an ad over a meme
Yeah its just a stupid meme
Yea it's an annoying advert that was played so often in the UK that's it's drilled into our subconscious. Then we turned it into an ironic meme
Anyway new Killteam leak
Brand new full Sisters Killteam, not just an upgrade Sprue
Bro why are necrons bringing shards of a god on a skirmish where they have a chance to only fight these guys 💀
I think the Nightbringer is going to be there as a like Neutral enemy both sides are trying to kill
Like the last Killteam box had extra Nids in it and rules for a Co-op Killteam game mode where both sides worked together to hunt down the Nids
I hope so because
So maybe it's like that but both sides are fighting while trying to kill it
That is crazy work to put the shard of a god in a skirmish game
I find how hive cities are layered cities stacked on top of each more interesting after I've seen some visual evidence in dt
With all the large ceilings on top with the fans
When you're "outdoors"
Or like, even in clandestium gloriana
The proper surface of atoma is all the desert hourglass stuff right
Yeah that's just inside the hive skin which is in tatters
You can see scaffolding and panels for it in some of the areas
You're probably confusing the book with reality where terraforming mars is a multi-layered impossibility
Tfw musks nuke the icecaps idea would provide 1% of an atmosphere which solar wind would blow away within the decade
What's a hive skin
The outer shell of the hive
You cant just call it the wall because there's a trillion walls
Oh..so the hourglass isn't even on the surface?
It sort of is?
The skin has huge holes in it which is where all the sand came from
Is there another hive layer on top of the hourglass i guess is what I mean
I think tertium is supposed to have atmospheric shielding too but who knows how long that's been broken
On top? Yes
Its on the exterior edge of the mid-hive
There's like a protective screen around it but its where landers and stuff were meant to enter the hive
But it's still in the city, there's a wall around it that's cracked and so the sand is coming in from outside?
Yeah kinda more like a screen?
Atoma is a hellscape of radioactive dust storms and the skin is for keeping that out
Oh there's more layers on top
Damn
Oh yeah we've never even seen the spire
I thought the hourglass was the topmost layer and thus exposed to the elements
Throneside is like the top of midhive i think
The hive is kinda cone shaped so i guess there isnt stuff directly above most of the hourglass
But I guess I'm assuming good chunk of the hive is underground relative to atomas surface but I think it's more accurate to assume the hive is building upward relative to it
Its unclear but there are dozens of floors above and below where we've seen
The torrent isnt even the real underhive it gets worse lol
Well, with hourglass we can assume it's above "sea" level right
Since sand is blowing in
Yeah
And it's not underground at least
Its where lifter ships are supposed to dock and interact with the hive, you can look down at a few points we're very high up
Hive city is insane, when you consider all the train yards too
Tertium is the size of a country but stacked on itself 100 times
I think it had a population of like, 3 billion? Before uh, you know lol
Population: less
Also it's funny when you go to the more posh looking maps, like throneside
And you look up and see a big skybox and see another ceiling at the top
With the giant ventilation fans
Yeah throneside is like a bourgeois district
The nobles live in the spire even farther up
Im... not sure? I think its in between areas on a floor?
Its hidden in something like an enormous cooling system
It reminds me of the place in coruscant , you know like the area where Palpatine and dooku had their secret meetings
Like a big factory hub with just pipes and stuff
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Ah i guess its between floors vertically not between areas laterally
Im still pretty sure its a giant cooling duct
It's crazy that it's so super cooled, you're basically in like a giant computer processor and your like a microbe that found it's way to the 1 inch area where the cooling happens
Its probably between two floors of foundries and manufactories and probably doesn't cover the whole cross section of the hive
But yeah stuff doesn't just... get cold
I think someone guesstimate-calculated the base of the hive to be ~100 km based on artwork. It's a bit big
If anything a hive would need extensive cooling or the heat of human life would turn the inner hive into an oven
Not to mention braking trains and stuff
So surface of atoma is radiated wasteland?
The london subway tunnels have been steadily heating up for their whole existence which i think is a decent comparison
Its for sure a wasteland of dust and sand im pretty sure its radioactive
Because radiation is good for bones
We know there are two hives but we're in tertium so a third one might have had an... accident
Side product of 40k industry, don't worry about it
I remember lines about radiation on hourglass missions
Also there's a spire reaching to the top of the hive right, I wonder if there's a balcony there with a nice view 
i know forge worlds have shitty atmospheres but usually that's just toxic chemicals
anyways this is why everybody should use steel legion uniforms
I suppose if it doesn't have an ozone layer anymore the UV radiation is popping off, but I don't think that's what meant by radiation
i don't understand why that would be the case since the imperium doesn't really use nuclear power or nuclear weapons that often
It's really cool to use atomics to dig with, it's rad as fuck
krieg was unique in being irradiated because nukes were actually used
The imperium regularly uses atomics
Or maybe xenos lived there millenia ago and blew each other to bits
tbf the lexicanum doesn't mention any real radiation but I seem to recall a voice line from the game mentioning it
They're just no good for books
as weapons?
Yeah
why would nukes be used on atoma
Or maybe there's a single artifact somewhere on the planet that's radiated everything
Admech
We dunno, tbh, there's another entire hive city we don't know anything about afaik
i think the uniform of the atoma wastelander guys mentions it
They use it for power and have crazy industrial accidents too but you said they don't use them for warfare and that's objectively not true
i said not that often. you dont see nukes used a lot
I mean I wouldn't go into the wastes, irradiated or not
I remember them mentioning who's in charge of the city
Some noble family or the other
The navy has a comical five hundred and sixty gigaton missile
yeah so it's just normal industrial toxic waste
like armageddon
Like i said i wasnt sure about radiation but i think masozi does give you a line about radiation coming through the hive skin but it could be solar
Also
Was the ragged king some crime lord like Jabba the Hutt who got ran out by the nurgle lovers
LMAO
i cant read taco
Remember when the iron warriors tried to fire a nuke at vulkan and it somehow didn't work out
Somehow
Primarchs are magic, don't have to explain anything
Basically, a petty gangboss who controlled a zone
vortex missiles are cooler
A nightbringer fragment in killteam is a bit wack but I'm not against it
why explode things when you can remove them from existence
Also Raptors(generic but painted NL) and def new SoB minis
just based on the posing
Stalemateish?
I wonder if they are expanding physically or there are pockets of them all over the city
We honestly don't know that much about the ragged king outside his interactions with zola
chaos wins just by existing
There's nonspecific lines of battle all over
Pay off the cops and make the normie plebs pay out the ass for water they need to live, sounds like a sensible racket to me
Lorewise its already over for tertium lol
an upstanding hive business
An infestation this bad i think the imperium would normally give up on even with the factories and stuff
nah the factorums are too valuable
But we have poxer singing turned off and stuff so its gucci
Also I've noticed they added new voicelines with the admonition cult, like the mysterious voice guys and they gave the corruptor eye demon a name
It's nice to know that's it's apparently just one entity
That's all over the place
That's been hinted at / mentioned in passing for a while
With some of the things going on in the wang supplement things look a bit bad but the Imperium works slowly so we got plenny of time 
Various lines about it having worked its way all throughout the hive
i hope we get upper hive missions
Sobs look nice tbf
i want to kill hive nobles
I dunno what the plan is for the corruptor lol it seems a little unsolveable
Maybe they can shrive it one day or something
bit sus wanting to attack your superiors
We already killed rinda and rodin 
superiors? we're inquisitorial agents 
You got nurgle worshippers, traitor guard regiment, cultists, a big daemon, some beasts of nurgle here and there. All on single planet ?? That's quite tame by imperium standards
tertium's situation is pretty bad by normal standards
traitors openly attacking is not usually the norm
The situation is also a lot better than it should be tbh
Are femboys still a thing in the 40k universe?
slaanesh
If they send like....one more loyalist guardsmen regiment they could probably get the upper hand
The poxwalker infestation is miraculously not out of hand among other things

