40k-lore-chat

[summer mural]

Something I appreciate about black Templars is how awful it must be to be a xenos or heretic fighting them

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are basically psychopaths

as much as the books try to make them sympathetic

which is like lmao

[languid meadow]

i assume it's the same as normal marines but they run at you more instead of shooting you

[summer mural]

People needed to be introduced to halo ?

I guess hd2 is pretty casually popular

Makes sense

Well

Does it

[storm jungle]

Casually popular is a good way to describe it yeah

[summer mural]

Ah idc anyway

It's just like

[languid meadow]

going from the black templar minis to the bret ones they have up was a flashbang

[summer mural]

I never thought I'd hear there's a generation of people who got introduced to Halo through helldivers 2

[languid meadow]

no warhammer I'm not playing Bretonnia

[summer mural]

Ohhh

[storm jungle]

playdough

[summer mural]

Did old world get more stuff

Like beastmen

And acceptable saurus models

[languid meadow]

I've not seen a lick about either of them for old world

[summer mural]

What's the last thing they got

[rocky gale]

But they made a whole 2 new models for them

[summer mural]

The old world that is

Also I'm enjoying the arbitrator voicelines in dt, I bought the class a few days ago

And I took the maul voice ofc

It's beautiful

Like honey being poured in my ears

[arctic talon]

No

nothing new this month

[summer mural]

especially when he starts yelling in the most hateful, guttural voice you've ever heard , sublime stuff like " QUAIL BLOCKFODDER!!"

[languid meadow]

last announcement OW got was tomb kings stuff back in mid july

Aren't the only "New" old world factions Empire, Cathay, Bretonnia, Tomb Kings, and High Elves?

hold on

I'm missing a couple

all I know is that lizardmen don't seem to be on that rn

[summer mural]

Well fair enough

[summer mural]

I've kinda lost interest in fantasy and aos for now

It'll come back to me later

Rn I got time to game, so I'm finishing stuff off my list

[languid meadow]

I did miss the big one that is Warriors of Chaos

I had to fight the site for over 10 mins

but here

[valid needle]

I love when he breaks the neck of that coward guardsman who wants to run away

[storm jungle]

I love the part where he says he'll die on Armageddon

(spoilers he doesnt)

[valid needle]

Not that time

Maybe in Helsreach Part 2 the sequel

You know what, make helsreach its own series like Horus heresy.

27 wars for helsreach.

[queen laurel]

breaking news new torture method just dropped

[forest orbit]

I had enough space marine slop for awhile i think

[valid needle]

You get to read Grimaldus saying this is our city in every single book.

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-fortress-soldier-gif-10140929324912630828

[valid needle]

The 26 time hero of helsreach

[forest orbit]

I saw some in the group im in who did, we black templar fans cannot beat these allegations 💀

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[forest orbit]

At least it wasnt as bad as when they got upset for the space wolf reveals having dark skinned minis

love this fandom 🙏

[queen laurel]

the PFP debuff will always stay viable

[forest orbit]

Entire reason I keep it tbh

[surreal nest]

This is sick ngl

The ODST tease i mean

Its lowk probably gonna be like a 30 dollar armor set

[storm jungle]

Lmao DUDE

[surreal nest]

The people who kitbash their miniatures by just adding a krieg head onto it lowk irritate me for some reason

I keep seeing that

[valid needle]

I love joining a server and immediately getting called a Racist Fascist Far right Nazi lover, before I’ve even spoke.

[summer mural]

LOL

The ogryn thinks the Lex is a person

[surreal nest]

I have only ever encountered one Black Templar fan that deserved their reputation tbh

[valid needle]

There definitely is those types in the fandom

[surreal nest]

Dude thought he was oppressed and talked about how he was going to get canceled for revealing to people he liked black templars

[storm jungle]

Almost like theres a reason for that

your profile also again doesnt help, no offense

[surreal nest]

While also dropping competitive racism

[forest orbit]

^

I get the complaints because I face them too

but acting like a poor victim when you consider the shit our side of the fandom does in comparison is a bit funny

[valid needle]

I mean judging someone because they have an SM2 clan in their profile is a bit harsh

It’s like an EC fan joining and me immediately saying they are a sex pervert

[storm jungle]

Its very eyebrow raising, especially when most banned chud users here have the exact same kind of profile layout

[forest orbit]

👆

Its to the point that I use templar in my name so I can show people that im actually not the average BT fan

[valid needle]

I know lots of normal people who put video game clans in their profile though

[storm jungle]

I mean its not just that though

alot of weird fans put tons of weird astartes roleplay stuff in their profile lol

[forest orbit]

Yeah theres a very valid argument for this tbh

so again its kinda warranted to be at least leery of it

idk why this is so hard to get

[valid needle]

I see that argument but then are they bad people because they are just bad people or is the hobby people have in common the problem?

[forest orbit]

They are bad people because they are bad people

literally almost 90% of the BT fandom I met are weird nazis, racists or sexists

[rocky gale]

and Iron Cross is also a common dog whistle, so it's just a lot of overlapping red flags

[forest orbit]

I know it shouldnt set the norm but its a very worrying trend

[valid needle]

It’s not an iron cross

[rocky gale]

I know

It's the Maltese cross

But people confuse the two

[gaunt lily]

no but its haha funny crusades deus vult kinda people

[forest orbit]

Yeah its still a dogwhistle, nobody is saying you cant have it but dont be surprised when people are sus of you for it lol

its like guys who get aquila tattoos then get weirded out when people think they are fascist

[valid needle]

I feel like BT get most of the racists to be fair but I feel like that’s down to maybe the cross and the reputation, racists hear oh these fans are super racist and so they believe that fandom is for them. I hate the racists in my fandom as much as anyone else and it upsets me it’s name is ruined by them.

[forest orbit]

Its down to racist/fascist users being obsessed with templars

thats kinda it tbh

[rocky gale]

Like I have this pfp knowing people are going to tell me how much they hate the character that I like, I don't take it personally.

[forest orbit]

also missing the joke that the BTs are based on them for the reason that they are massive racist genocidal maniacs

[storm jungle]

Maddie did no wrong 🫡

[languid meadow]

Glory to noxus

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/arcane-arcane-season-2-maddie-maddie-nolan-gif-8566488352702804073

[rocky gale]

Yea Cait cheated on her, Maddie's justified

[valid needle]

Don’t tell the racists BT aren’t based on the knights templar they won’t believe you

[storm jungle]

She'd never dome her ex-girlfriend in the head

[queen laurel]

her death was peakthough

[gaunt lily]

i mean she shot herself, thats a bit of an oopsie

[forest orbit]

Dont worry ive seen it firsthand lol

but basically yeah disliking/not trusting BT fans is very understandable imo

as long as cordiality makes any possible future mistake clear and that theres no ill intent then thats fine

[summer mural]

I don't trust fans of anything

[gaunt lily]

unfortunately those kinds of people arent very media literate, they gravitate towards looks and vibes, kreig suffers in the same way

[forest orbit]

People were wary of me here before I made clear I dont hate gay people or am a racist in any capacity lol

[summer mural]

In fact I don't trust anyone at all

Now what is this about

Ih

Oh

Black templars

[languid meadow]

Iron hands catching strays

Only if eternal was here

[vagrant fox]

I don't really know how to formulate it, but with warhammer being about your guys I suspect people with that sort of leaning just gravitate towards Black Templars and Krieg naturally
It's unfortunate, I really do like both of them

[languid meadow]

I miss him for days like this

[summer mural]

I miss Sigismund

I wish he was still alive

[vagrant fox]

rip eternal deserved it less than kaggen

[queen laurel]

He was a good guy to talk to when he wasn't shoving down his point down your throat

unfortunately he just happens to look for an argument anywhere

[summer mural]

Kaggen got banned?

[vagrant fox]

yea

[valid needle]

It’s the racists joining my fandom and ruining it that upset me most and I’m sure it’s the same for other normal BTs. At least the ones who aren’t pushed away by the racists and reputation.

[queen laurel]

Yeah he got atomized

[summer mural]

What did he do, so I can..avoid it

[languid meadow]

Yeah understandable it fucking sucks watching the evils join and ruin stuff for normal people

[valid needle]

I like BT because they are actually highly honour and face to face melee combat based.

[languid meadow]

As long as you're a good person however it's easier to block out the unjust hate that comes your way

[rocky gale]

I like Blood Angels because they're hot and they eat people

Same reason for Flesh Eater Courts

[vagrant fox]

don't go around starting shit and then defend assholery I suppose

[sour hornet]

I love Maddie no cap, she did nothing wrong

[summer mural]

Well

[valid needle]

Sometimes you just need to eat a dude

[queen laurel]

i like orks and ironjawz because they express my desire to hit something in the head so hard it smashes into a pancake

[vagrant fox]

Sometimes you gotta eat some brains

[sour hornet]

I love dreadanon

[forest orbit]

He went on like

a pro-imperialist/pro-corporate rant for 4 hours

[queen laurel]

he is like eternal if you remove the good bits

[summer mural]

Like..about rl or the imperium of man

[forest orbit]

IRL

[vagrant fox]

rl

[forest orbit]

it was really uhhh weird

[queen laurel]

at least with eternal i can say he was fun to talk to when he was be normal

[summer mural]

...lol..

[vagrant fox]

It's funny if you defend assholes in warhammer because they're funny

not so much real life

[sour hornet]

glazing corporatism for free is insane work

[queen laurel]

yeah he was crazy

[storm jungle]

😔

[rocky gale]

Yea it was like real "pull yourself by your bootstraps, American Dream is for winners and anyone who doesn't make it is a loser who didn't try hard enough." type shit

[storm jungle]

He was also talking about shit like

"Im brown and I never once saw racism in the US."

Posts selfie of his arm

literally the whitest skin ever

💀

[sour hornet]

💀 💀 💀

[storm jungle]

GETOU-

[vagrant fox]

I often can't decide if I like Flesh Tearers or Black Templars most for loyalist space marines 🤔

[storm jungle]

Yes.

Im more of a Flesh Eaters fan though

[summer mural]

Flesh tearers for good old gabe

[sour hornet]

banning isnt enough I need him put in the contraption

[queen laurel]

literally says he's brown the skin color came out like this

[vagrant fox]

The Stromark Civil War incident is just the funniest thing I don't know why

[storm jungle]

it cannot beat when the Iron Hands wiped out like 95% of a planet for not giving them recruits

then they realise it was due to dark eldar raids

and they are like

"Damn."

[summer mural]

[sour hornet]

The Iron Hands are...

[vagrant fox]

Iron Hands are a funny bunch it's true, it's hard to beat

[summer mural]

40k lore is so funny I can never take it seriously

[sour hornet]

...definitely a chapter of space marines, one of the ones that exist, for sure.

Im trying to be charitable

They kinda just are assholes, suck, and dont do much

[winged jacinth]

i think black templars are cool because i like the black and white color scheme and like space marines with shields

[summer mural]

Unless you have the voice of the arbites Maul personality

[winged jacinth]

we need an emote of a happy ogryn in a pinwheel cap

[storm jungle]

Its one of the reasons why I miss Eternal ngl, you say one bad thing about Iron Hands and he would start typing like crazy or copypaste some lore-note nobody is gonna read and be like

"They dont suck. You guys just dont read the lore!!!"

Yeah imagine, peope not reading up on a faction they dont care about, crazy

[queen laurel]

it was fun to get on the verbal fist fights on him once in a while

[storm jungle]

Real. Hes still on r40klore fighting people

[vagrant fox]

It was a blessed lore bounty about things I didn't care about

[winged jacinth]

i like iron hands because the whole point of space marines is biological enhancement and then they just get mechanical bits you could put on anyone

[storm jungle]

I saw him on a post yesterday on an iron hands thread lmao

[celest dome]

In fairness, you can't really say a faction suck if you haven't read its lore I guess

[queen laurel]

A warrior knows no rest I suppose

[storm jungle]

Yeah I suppose, but he kinda took it to childish levels

[sour hornet]

Eternal comprises the entirety of the Iron Hands' defense team.

[storm jungle]

people make fun of Ferrus' name?

"WELL, OTHER PRIMARCHS GOT SILLY NAMES TOO, WE GET IT"

Cool, its still dumb

[winged jacinth]

get my acid spit gland implanted
immediately have my jaw replaced

[queen laurel]

war

[celest dome]

Me when that Quar dude is posting...

[summer mural]

Why do the primarchs have silly names, is there some reason for that from back in the day

[queen laurel]

Sven is certainly an interesting guy

[winged jacinth]

back in the day mostly

[celest dome]

He is

[vagrant fox]

I remember posting a dead iron hands to see if Eternal would react and he certainly did, it was great

[queen laurel]

i have never seen someone love quar so much

[celest dome]

Honestly seem like a swell person

[queen laurel]

oh yeah 100%

[celest dome]

But Quar is really not interesting to me

[queen laurel]

he's very enthusiastic about it

[winged jacinth]

most of the primarch names fall into 2 camps, silly reference/joke or extremely blunt

[storm jungle]

Its due to; jokes aside; their names literally being come up from back when 40k was made by some blokes as a small team that were not taking the setting seriously and having fun with it.

Its why so many of the names got the effect of "We came up with this in a pub while having drinks."

[sour hornet]

Truly he is Ferrus Manus' strongest soldier, who else among us would descend into hell reddit to fight lore grognards for free?

[celest dome]

There used to be a guy that acted like Eternal but for the Space Wolf

[winged jacinth]

like the blood angels guy is named bloodguy

[vagrant fox]

I get the impression they were a bunch of really clever guys just shitposting up a setting

[summer mural]

Yeah I figured it's some ancient British humour for kids or something like that

[celest dome]

I wonder if they're still here

[storm jungle]

They are

they just dont write anymore

also i guess because we realised they were just joking

[winged jacinth]

death guard guy is named deathguy

[valid needle]

I 100% support the orphan flayer parent killer legion called the Nightlords, but in real life I would never support that sort of thing.

[valid needle]

Just flip a coin

[sour hornet]

You wouldn't understand the grindset

[queen laurel]

Why do you think I'm still clean of anarchist charges

[summer mural]

No like, mortarion is fine, it's thematic, but those brits were clearly making fun of the French drunk out of their mind when they named guilliman

[winged jacinth]

guy from lava planet is named after the roman forge god

[summer mural]

Or ferrus manus

[winged jacinth]

mortarion is a good name its just very blunt

[storm jungle]

They are all fine i think because its just comic book superhero names

its why its okay to make fun of them

[winged jacinth]

most of the blunt names are actually pretty solid

[sour hornet]

I like Raven Guard, but "Corvus Corax?"

[storm jungle]

Yeah tho for example I legit like Leman Russ, that is at least actually kinda unique/has some thought but into it

[sour hornet]

Crow Crow?

[storm jungle]

Raven Raven ahhh

[sour hornet]

Bruh

[summer mural]

At least Constantin valdor is an appropriately powerful name

[winged jacinth]

the leader of the iron hands having iron hands and being named iron hands...

[vagrant fox]

I'll just go by vibes depending on what flavour of warcrime I want that day

[queen laurel]

man it's almost as bad as that superhero from the boys called Black noir

[winged jacinth]

ferrus is probably the worst offender

Lion el'Johnson is a good reference name

gulliman is... south african??

[rocky gale]

Sanguinius is funny because he is both optimistic in bad or difficult situations and related to blood

[summer mural]

Plus it's well established by this point that the emperors real name is Anathema Skywalker

[valid needle]

Leman is a funny and likeable man

[sour hornet]

Angron for the angry dude?

[winged jacinth]

games workshop should have considered giving gulliman a first name people could pronounce from reading lol

[sour hornet]

💀

[winged jacinth]

angron overly on the nose yeah lol

[valid needle]

Peter Turbo is best name in all of warhammer universe.

[sour hornet]

Fulgrim is alright

[summer mural]

They could have named him Jeanne Pierre Guilluiame

[sour hornet]

Eww

[celest dome]

Huh that's funny, "Sanguin" in French mean someone that get angry quite easily (Oh apparently it's just lots of emotion, not negatives ones)

[winged jacinth]

i like when the primarchs are given names that reflect events that happen much later in their lives

[sour hornet]

French

[median star]

nono im here to just not nearly as knowledgeable

[winged jacinth]

like ferrus mannus wasnt BORN with the iron hands

he just happened to get hands to match his name

angron wasnt always angry

[sour hornet]

Unprecedented: a SECOND Iron Hands fan confirmed to exist for the first time.

[dapper gyro]

It is "Crow Raven"... You might not care, but crow and raven are 2 quite different birds.

[rocky gale]

So his name references, blood, his attitude and the Black Rage

[winged jacinth]

until they put the angry device in his head...

[summer mural]

And mortarion wasn't always....morbin?

[vagrant fox]

I read that Angron is derived from a greek word meaning something like savage, but I've also read it's angry ron Idk man

[median star]

dozens of us

[sour hornet]

I don't believe it

[median star]

something something deeds endure

[vagrant fox]

yea this one, early GW people were very educated so I could believe it but I have no idea if it's true

[summer mural]

At least khan is cool, as always...

[celest dome]

Iron Hand could be cool, but they'd need way more work in the likes of the Space Wolf

[median star]

i dont think ferrus will ever be cooler then the actual chapter itself imo

[summer mural]

Also

Ciaphas Cain is a dope name

[median star]

impossible its been prophesized that abaddon will be coming back for round 2 on medusa to finally take us out of the setting

[languid meadow]

[median star]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-game-of-thrones-mountain-oberyn-gif-19272603

[languid meadow]

You're very hateful for no reason but then I remember you're old so

[gaunt lily]

tbf iron hands could be really cool if they had more special vehicles and weapons to reflect their technical competence

[median star]

proof

[gaunt lily]

as it is iron hands just feel like space marines but we didnt actually need those augmentations really

[median star]

off the top of my head they did have their own terminator pattern that got sent to nothing burger town

[gaunt lily]

nothing burger town, devourer of cool ideas

[median star]

also their bionics and ability and willingness to augment to the extent they do means their full on loss of a marine is a good bit lower then most chapters

[valid needle]

He prefers “Caw Caw”

[sour hornet]

we need to kill ralsei

[valid needle]

No it’s Darth Neoth

[languid meadow]

Still crazy to me that we're now past the events of Bo2

[languid meadow]

Thanking Toby for chapter 4 since it shot evil ralsei theory and left it to die in a ditch

[median star]

ralsei is the antichrist

[languid meadow]

Your constant bait and insincerity makes you less human

https://fxtwitter.com/HubPointless/status/1955292285249212574

PointlessHub (@HubPointless)

Halo 2 (2004)

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This movie is so dogshit man we're never getting another good WotW movie

[storm jungle]

Okay so like what i dotn get is

is this a promotion FOR the movie or is the entire movie just Ice Cube yelling at the camera in a vlogger style kind of thing

[outer wave]

I kinda agree with the notion that this movie is just Ice Cube being stuck in a room

[storm jungle]

Wait so like is it that or not?

[outer wave]

Which could be kind of a cool concept if it werent for all the bad publicity and probable shit writing

[gaunt lily]

apparently the movie literally is shot like its a zoom meeting

[storm jungle]

Ah yeah ive seen a few movies like that

worst part is it CAN be done really fucking well

I remember one where the entire movie is a dad trying to find where his kidnapped daughter is and its almost entirely done through a web-browser, it was really good

this though uhhh 💀

[gaunt lily]

hes supposed to be a defence analyst locked in his office

[languid meadow]

that's the movie

[storm jungle]

Ice Cube

Defense analyst

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cube-war-of-the-worlds-funny-meme-shock-gif-12717878889778132743

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[languid meadow]

this is his reaction to his son dying btw

[gaunt lily]

movie about alien invasion, never leave a dudes office

[storm jungle]

I mean

[queen laurel]

he Looks like he planned the assassination

[gaunt lily]

he never realised it would be so easy

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[outer wave]

Fuck thats awful

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/Browntable_Ent/status/1953311534857240956

Mauricio | Browntable is Reborn (@Browntable_Ent)

THIS CAN'T BE A REAL MOVIE

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[outer wave]

He looks too confused than devastated while confused

[queen laurel]

Why does this movie feel like it should be A TV show like the visuals just give that vibe

the effects looks like one of those things you would see in like the flash show

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/TasteSubjective/status/1953120061087986043 ok one last clip but this is my fav one

Taste Subjective (@TasteSubjective)

@iHunter69 @HubPointless

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FxTwitter · Aug 6, 2025, 3:44 PM

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[queen laurel]

DID THE LITERAL PRESIDENT JUST SAY THAT

[languid meadow]

yes

[queen laurel]

Bro

That was one of the most ass dialogues i have heard

[outer wave]

Why does he say it as if there are multiple worlds involved? Its just war of the world

[queen laurel]

i think he's talking about the world of the aliens and our world

[outer wave]

Its really forced

Fair fair

[storm jungle]

Secretary of Defense playing golf is so fucking good

[dapper gyro]

The movie is so fucking dumb.

[languid meadow]

it's also amazon propaganda

[storm jungle]

dont tell me

that during the movie

amazon packages still get delivered or something

[dapper gyro]

1 guy can control the entire media and national surveillance...

[storm jungle]

i will fucking SCREAM

[dapper gyro]

You can scream now.

[storm jungle]

No I gotta know first

[outer wave]

Amazon delivers ammunition to the soldiers via drones and truck and saves the day

[languid meadow]

they play a pivotal part plus there's a delivery driver who is happy with his job, no complaints.

[outer wave]

BRUH

[storm jungle]

OH MY FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

[storm jungle]

AUGHHHHHHHHHH

[dapper gyro]

A USB key, using Amazon Prime same day shipping...

[storm jungle]

KILL ME

[outer wave]

That was a joke

But I could see it

[storm jungle]

I COULDNT EVEN TELL

[queen laurel]

BRO A LITERAL ALIEN INVASION AND HE IS HAPPY

[dapper gyro]

Gladly giving you the big E's mercy.

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/NebsGoodTakes/status/1953123906082226657

Neb | 🏳️‍🌈 (@NebsGoodTakes)

War of the Worlds (2025)

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[outer wave]

He's happy that Amazon or him will inevitably be vaporized by the aliens, freeing him from work

[outer wave]

God that editing is so ASS

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/NebsGoodTakes/status/1953546692487524506

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War of the Worlds (2025)

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FxTwitter · Aug 7, 2025, 8:00 PM

here's him dying

[storm jungle]

sdfsdfdsfdsfdsfdfs

[dapper gyro]

@storm jungle If you don't give a fuck about spoiler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fhLdREPEF4

[queen laurel]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IT LOOKS SO SHIT

[dapper gyro]

It has to be really bad for that guy to make a new Pitch Meeting nowadays.

[outer wave]

That man is dying and you're laughing at him

😔

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/104fUNBeqcY?si=DP0FneGoY__hkQMl

[languid meadow]

dog shit tripod design as well

[opaque coyote]

Aliens on zoom ahh

[queen laurel]

I'M AN ORK

[outer wave]

I KNOW BUT THAT MAN IS DYING

[storm jungle]

God this just makes me wanna watch the mid-2000's remake

[outer wave]

The editing is killing him more than the actual threat

[storm jungle]

that movie legit gave me nightmares/chills

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-worlds-fighting-machine-gif-15165324

[storm jungle]

also the tripods were horrifying in it

[languid meadow]

The dread this movie inflicted on me as a kid was insane

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^

[queen laurel]

why do the tripods in the ice cube version look like power ranger enemies

genuinely why

like the old one it looked terrifying

[opaque coyote]

Clearly this is exactly what H.G Wells envisioned in 1898

https://youtu.be/jTmLmaVtSR8?si=0h2qVeoHOsLjBDXl

[queen laurel]

This one

[storm jungle]

This part was the one that still gives me chills, even now.

[outer wave]

They do have that toy like look

[storm jungle]

like, seeing that thing pop from the back of the hill

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-worlds-ice-cube-join-the-rebellion-disruptor-smug-gif-9197881505386225266

[storm jungle]

spot everyone, then do the horn

and everyone just starts RUNNING

Fucking hell man

[queen laurel]

bro the bacteria are the MVP of this fight

[languid meadow]

the harvesting scene

fuck

We're never getting this back

[opaque coyote]

The horn was a fantastic design choice

[storm jungle]

100%

its pure terror

great psychological effect as well

[dapper gyro]

WotW 2005 is made by Steven fucking Spielberg.

Even in his worst movies are still 7/10.

[languid meadow]

while the pre 2000s designs are cool in a retro way idk man the 2005 ones are so good

and the BBC ones

[storm jungle]

Its because they are simple

[languid meadow]

hold on

[storm jungle]

its like smooth carapace-esque

its very minimalist

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/-V3Iqd3WbVg?si=SE4dA80zl5kpaCzN

[storm jungle]

YEAH THAT SCENE

[languid meadow]

I love how they look like organic

with the membrane canopy

[storm jungle]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kQ43y2

heres a movie accurate design

[rocky gale]

Apparently there's a scene where they're trying to bribe a guy to do something and he's just like "no, no, no" until they offer him an Amazon gift card and then he's interested.

[storm jungle]

I totalyl forgot the like

octo-toes

[queen laurel]

Why do they want to harvest humans again

[languid meadow]

Ok so while we're glazing WotW I would like to talk about the BBC series that aired

[queen laurel]

And kill us all

[languid meadow]

it's not the best but it's closer to the broadcast iirc

https://youtu.be/UXUFHimIEP4?si=u-djp8Ja9oF_XISO

[queen laurel]

I forgot it's been a while

[languid meadow]

This scene is awesome

WW1 era dreadnaughts my beloved

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

I DO know they use human biomatter for terraforming

otherwise cant remember

[opaque coyote]

There are also basically two classes of tripod seen in the movie

[queen laurel]

welp good enough

[opaque coyote]

Commander tripods and normal/Harvester ones

The horn is basically communication

[rocky gale]

Does this version have Thunderchild, all the modern versions leave out Thunderchild

[opaque coyote]

So in that Ferry scene, the horn was most likely a signal for the other tripod to begin trapping them

[languid meadow]

It's been years but I don't think so

[rocky gale]

Damn

[dapper gyro]

In the 2005 Spielberg movie, the tripod can't harvest more energy than compare to the energy spent, so their force shield eventually rant out, which is their short coming.

Also, military in the 2005 are actually competent, fighting a new and outclassing enemy.

[rocky gale]

Thunderchild was the MVP, it defended a refugee ferry and won a 3v1 vs the Tripods

[dapper gyro]

Yet, when one of the commander at the end heard a suggestion, which made sense, the dude called his troops right the way to disable a tripod.

[opaque coyote]

I think the 2005 movie had the ferry part.

Considering it's limited POV, maybe thunder child did happen

Just not seen

[languid meadow]

while the 2020 BBC version isn't great... it still kept to the book/broadcast more, I like both the 2005 and 2020 versions

which makes the 2025 version just so depressing

[dapper gyro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCHHv7ojfiw

Military commander listening to civilian suggestion, that's smarter than 90% of the movie military.

[rocky gale]

Thunderchild being an absolute chad manages to destroy one of the Tripods with it's guns before it's weapons are disabled by a Heat Ray, it then proceeds to ram and destroy a second one, then while attempting to ram the third it finally explodes destroying both it and the final Tripod.

[languid meadow]

War of the worlds is the only type of humanity fuck yeah I enjoy

I need us to get kicked in the balls before triumph

[dapper gyro]

It also help that the desperation and cooperation happened.

It is not much of "bad guys are other humans" thing.

Also, in all of them, it happened fast.

[green loom]

"Thas a lot"

[languid meadow]

I can neither confirm or deny this but apparently they were told to use real war footage and put tripods in.....

for some of the scenes

holy shit

From the movie

[queen laurel]

bro

no way

[dapper gyro]

It is a cheesey cheap movie after all.

[lofty lion]

that mmovie was so bad

like there is genuily no good thing, too much shit happening at once, its unironicaly one of the worst movie i've seen not kidding, its a miracle to make something this bad

[lofty lion]

actually, its a bit more sinister

they used to real life footage to recreate them in 3D

but like on 1:1, they literaly just recreate real life footage, its fucked up

why

[queen laurel]

it's one thing to use real life as a basis using actual FOOTAGE However

that one is just not right in any capacity

[lofty lion]

idk, both are mega fucked up in that context

its like trying to cover your step but not actually

at one point there is a vid of a plane crashing down and explosing

[queen laurel]

i'm talking about like inspirations and stuff not actual straight up use

[lofty lion]

oh ok

[queen laurel]

There's the difference between inspiration and just taking something with no regard for the origin

[lofty lion]

yeah thats mega fucked up

this movie is wrong on so many level, but i have a good review focusing on the ..... opinions of the movie, its short and good
https://letterboxd.com/slipni/film/war-of-the-worlds-2025/

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[queen laurel]

like again you can take inspiration from real life that's normal, many fictional settings do that but if you take just something in real life and just paste it on the movie with no regard to the concept of morality and origin

[sour hornet]

real and true

[queen laurel]

That's just wrong

[sour hornet]

hes so positive it inspires me

to be evil

[queen laurel]

i mean you don't have to you're already a scumbag

[lofty lion]

yeah absolutely

and the movie put on that brainrot censorship on top of it

disgusting

ngl im really curious about the behind the scene

[sour hornet]

What are you talking about? I am without flaw.

[lofty lion]

i want to understand how you create something that fail on all front

the editing is nauseating btw

[queen laurel]

yeah yeah yeah miquella the kind it's without flaw you lick feet and because you like that person you are absolved of your sins I've heard that already get some original material

[queen laurel]

straight up looks like a TV show and that is not a compliment and that is not a compliment

i feel like i'm watching a badly edited TV show just seeing the clips

[languid meadow]

rage baiting Kris by doing snowgrave

[lofty lion]

nah thats too mean, tv show know basic editing

here i had to pause the movie multiple time to read what was on screen

[sour hornet]

This is unfounded slander by someone envious of my own grandeur.

Kindly Miquella is without flaw though.

[lofty lion]

a friend of mine had a theory, that this movie was made for a phone audience

wich

make sens given how everything is zoomed in

[queen laurel]

I do not care about grand zog or whatever i will literally hit you with an axe and break your spine

[lofty lion]

but idk if the peoples behind this are smart enough for this

[sour hornet]

im getting my bad ending whether Kris wants it or not

[queen laurel]

also I'm pretty sure most people would watch this stuff on like big screens anyway so why go with that market?

[sour hornet]

If you accepted his charm into your life you would be much happier.

[queen laurel]

OK then time to test your faith I'm gonna send you to the garth ennis room

[sour hornet]

I would rather be waterboarded.

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the guy is weird. I know it's hypocritical but seriously I cannot get a good grasp on him

He often hates superheroes like Captain America and yet loves Superman

Which is weird considering he created The Boys comics

Then again, Homelander actually isn't that much of an asshole compared to the other superheroes in the Boys comic.

To be fair, the bar is somewhere in hell, and comic Homelander is still a horrible horrible person

But he's somehow... less of a heinous asshole compared to the show?

Probably his favoritism showing ngl.

The pictures where he ate babies, he literally never did it, apparently it was Black Noir who is a clone of him yadayadayada

God the boys comic is so fucking stupid even for a comic

[rocky gale]

Yea it's typical Garth Ennis

[opaque coyote]

In general, despite the show having dips in quality at times. It still made all of the concepts work.

Except Hughie. He's just abused no matter what.

He deserves better man.

[opaque coyote]

The animated short series was pretty good though

Minus the one with the living poop

That was

That was fucking shit

Literally

Garth Ennis needs a fucking ironclad leash

The shit he writes is genuinely concerning at times

Although he is kinda self aware also.

[rocky gale]

Like Crossed

[opaque coyote]

That doesn't make it better but at least it's funny

💀

[opaque coyote]

He has a lot of good ideas

Just

Bad to mid execution

I do actually like Comic Honelander's costume design more. I kinda wish they kept the eagle pauldron for the show

Well they did

But it would've been interesting if it was more exaggerated

Also kinda miss the weird chain cape

[opaque coyote]

Square ahh thighs though

This is mostly nitpicking though

Antony Starr is great. But honestly, I don't think I can meet him IRL without feeling slightly scared

[rocky gale]

Holy shit they actually made a Crossed movie

[vagrant fox]

grody

[celest dome]

Is this the Crossed I'm thinking of ? 💀

[rocky gale]

The Garth Ennis "Zombie" comic

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[opaque coyote]

Y'know

The worst part is that it's a cool idea

I think only one other piece of media did something similar and that's The Crazies

And the remake is actually goated

The original is also good

The remake and the original are of two different perspectives

The original is on the government end

The panic, trying to manage, etc

[celest dome]

Crossed is just gore porn

[opaque coyote]

The remake are a group of civilians

[celest dome]

and worse

[rocky gale]

Holy shit I just read the cast list, they actually cast someone as Horsecock, they're doing the original run

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I know.

It's just that the idea that

Like

A pandemic goes around that instead of turning people mindless

They just turn psychopathic and violent

Is interesting

[rocky gale]

With such brilliant writing as Horsecock, the guy who beats people to death with a horse cock which shouting "Horsecock"

[opaque coyote]

40k is one step away

From that at times

Iron Hands has an Iron Hand who leads a group of people under the name Iron Hand

Where they all replace their hands with Iron Hands

[rocky gale]

Call me when the start beating people to death with iron cocks

[celest dome]

Hm hm...

Make peenis into robot

[hallow saddle]

they dont even make stuff out of iron anyway

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/makepenisintorobot-tts-gif-22309103

[surreal nest]

I think the criticism is about the horse cock villain 💔

[hallow saddle]

they aint using cast iron guns and shit

theyre obsessed with metaphorical iron

[opaque coyote]

Just need to rename Ferrus Manus to

Ferrus Mentula or something

[opaque coyote]

40k needs that fr

[raven stone]

…the Iron Cocks Chapter.
Successor Chapter of the Iron Hands.

You heard it here first, folks!

(What, their symbol is a rooster, what are you thinking about :p )

I’m sorry I am just going a little bit barmy.

Fucking work…

[celest dome]

Would the Iron Cock Primarch have joined Fulgrim ?

[raven stone]

But what if they were actually Iron Warrior successors

Y’know

For being a bunch of…

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I am warming up to the Iron Warriors

Their designs are cool and I like the general idea

Post 30k specifically

Their 30k versions are kinda boring

[raven stone]

I mean, good on you in all honesty

Worked to death and overlooked is a very relatable frustration

Compared to the rest of the Chaos loons

[opaque coyote]

Apparently they set up shot in the Nihilus sector

...

Again Nihilus sounds like a gold mine for stories

How many books actually take place there?

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I can get pert's struggles on some level

It doesn't excuse any of his behavior

And he's still a bitch

But I get it

[raven stone]

It’s a common enough feeling.

When you throw everything at some takes and still get overlooked.

Or you just feel like you are overworked for no recognition.

I kind of get that on a romantic level, given my fruitless and barren results in that endeavour

But yea, also agreed how he vents is…

…very much No Bueno.

[opaque coyote]

Most of the Primarchs are like that

Except Mortarion. I argue bro never even had the chance

How do you get three shitty parental figures IN A ROW

[raven stone]

Rotten luck indeed.

[celest dome]

3 ?

I remember 2

[opaque coyote]

His adoptive dad was a huge dick that basically abused him and killed any relationship he got

The Emperor is the Emperor

And finally Nurgle who is the Patron God of Abuse.

Among many many other things

[celest dome]

Oh right didn't count Nurgle

Fair

[opaque coyote]

Like I just feel bad for him

Genuinely

[celest dome]

True

[opaque coyote]

It hits a bit too close to some second hand experiences

[celest dome]

It's the only Primarch that I'd try to save tbf

[opaque coyote]

He didn't even join Chaos via trickery or out of self-interest. He just... was blackmailed into doing it. He didn't even want to.

[celest dome]

Magnus is a know it all that had been warned
Fulgrim, Curze and Perturabo are just dickheads and i would not go close to them

Alpharius/Omegon I wouldn't understand their deal anyway

[opaque coyote]

Like Magnus, it was his own fault.

Perturabo, you know how much of an asshole he is.

Angron takes out his trauma too much into others.

[celest dome]

Angron deserve to have his finale mercy

It was already too late

[opaque coyote]

But Mortarion? I don't think "Join me or your legion will suffer a fate worse than death for eternity"

Is a choice

Like he kept trying to give them the "Emperor's peace" but he literally couldn't end their suffering

He was also suffering as well

So it's either suffer with 150 different types of infections

Or join Nurgle

All because of Typhus

Who admittedly has a sick (ba dum tss) design

Seriously I basically took inspiration from his design for a shitty highschool painting

But he is also only second to Erebus

[paper haven]

Typhus really was a dick head

[opaque coyote]

Only reason why he isn't worse is due to fucking over less people

[dapper gyro]

Angron could still think, so his decision is still his.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's why although I feel pity for Angron. Angron is still an asshole

[paper haven]

Angron was too far gone

[opaque coyote]

He had every chance to at least not be a complete dickhead?

Still failed

[dapper gyro]

I have empathy for people in harsh lives. Nevertheless, Angron had his choice.

[paper haven]

Without the nails he probably would have done different

[opaque coyote]

Could've at least prevented your sons from nailing each other

[dapper gyro]

It is just GW bad writing.

They don't want Angron to be justifiable.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I know people like to make fanfics and theories about what if Angron didn't have his nails.

But honestly, what if Angron was just slightly less of a dick? Still having his nails but trying his best still.

If he didn't give up to his anger even as it was taking over

[paper haven]

Hard to say, the nails effected Angron differently

[dapper gyro]

Some of his WE had the nail, but still loyal...

[opaque coyote]

True. The WE nails and his are much different

Still would be interesting to have an Angron with even a bit of his compassion left though

Or at least caring about his sons enough to say

"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?? STOP HAMMERING THAT SHIT INTO YOUR SKULLS?? ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID???"

[vagrant fox]

Arguably when just breathing and thinking is painful as long as you're not killing it's hard to resist, Angron was a dunce though

[paper haven]

The Emperor kind of ruined that chance

[opaque coyote]

Kinda. Honestly that's just bad writing

Like it literally costs 0

Nilch

To give Angron some soldiers

"Go fuck em up son"

Even on a purely pragmatic sense

[paper haven]

If he had conquered his planet with the original gladiator army and his sons, I think things would have been very different

[opaque coyote]

Building trust is important

[dapper gyro]

Yet, only 1 guy decided that his life is suffering and ended his own.

[paper haven]

Technically Angron attempted suicide one time

[opaque coyote]

Again, not saying his pain wasn't real or valid.

But just like how trauma is. That doesn't excuse passing it into other people

[opaque coyote]

Honestly considering the Primarchs have regeneration. He probably did try multiple times

But failed every time

Because they can survive a lot

...

[dapper gyro]

Nah, they can be killed.

[paper haven]

Well his method was suicide by dinosaur but he kept killing the dinosaurs

[dapper gyro]

If they survived their attempts, it is because they didn't try hard enough.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik. But it would still take a lot

I think Fulgrim before becoming a Daemon survived a lot of bullshit

[dapper gyro]

So the dude didn't even try... Lol.

[paper haven]

More like passive suicidal attempts than eating a bolter shell

[opaque coyote]

Yeah honestly, on some level, I think the nails prevents suicide

Like think about it

Why would you want your gladiators to kill themselves?

That wouldn't be entertaining

[dapper gyro]

Man, is this nail sentient?

[paper haven]

No but the people that have them are

[opaque coyote]

Also it could just like suddenly increase the instinct to live

Or self preservation

[dapper gyro]

Seem like those gladiator patrols have tech well beyond the imperium.

[opaque coyote]

It's similar to how we can't bite off our fingers

Despite being fully capable of doing it

[paper haven]

At least, I don't think the nails are sentient, it is archeotech afterall

[opaque coyote]

All you have to do is apply that to other stuff

Try pointing a gun at yourself?

You physically can't anymore

Stabbing? Automatically misses

Etc.

[dapper gyro]

I mean... Primarch's bolters are pretty strong...

[paper haven]

The aggression response goes past conscious thought

it's automatic

[opaque coyote]

True, but I also think that on some level, it also increases the instinct to not hurt yourself.

Specifically yourself

[paper haven]

Could be

[opaque coyote]

This is probably just headcanon

But it would explain why Angron never tried to just

Stick an iron in his mouth and pull the trigger

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-2077-johnny-silverhand-keanu-reeves-deal-with-it-gif-12532344591050720691

Would fit his tragedy

He is physically unable to try and kill himself

[paper haven]

My interpretation is that he views it as cowardly

[opaque coyote]

Only able to do so via battle

And it's not like he can ask anybody to do it for him

[paper haven]

If he died in battle, that would be fine

[opaque coyote]

His sons would refuse

Good luck trying to get a Custodes to shoot him

Etc.

[vagrant fox]

Actual suicide would be dishonourable to his gladiator brethren per angrons words, iirc. Gotta die in battle I suppose, impossible as it is

[opaque coyote]

So he can only do passive suicide things

[dapper gyro]

Why does6he fight the sun?

[opaque coyote]

For some reason I am finding it funny to imagine Angron begging for a random Custodes to kill him

"COME ON PLEASE. IT WOULD JUST BE ONE SHOT TO THE CRANIUM."

"No."

"HURRY BEFORE THE NAILS BITE AGAIN. JUST FUCKING SHOOT ME."

"Nah. Do it yourself."

"I FUCCCKING CAN'T!!"

"Why?"

"I DON'T KNOOWWWWWW JUST FUCKING DO IT."

"Nah. Now excuse me I gotta get my coffee."

"AAAAAAAAAAAHHH-"

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-warhammer40k-warhammer-berserker-gif-16784535

[opaque coyote]

Also I am drinking a large coffee at 2 pm

This is clearly a good idea

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-hunchback-turn-cukurukuk-gif-15693050314819858264

[paper haven]

Same decision making as Angron

[opaque coyote]

Nah

More like Fulgrim

"Ooo random rusty Xeno sword. I hope nothing bad happen-"

"Y'know, flaying people sounds like a good way to pass the time."

[opaque coyote]

Might be a weird thing. But one of the few fan theories (although this one is obviously disproven because of the HH books) that I like

Is the idea that Fulgrim just got trapped in the painting and the Daemon is in full control

Idk why I find the idea neat

I just like it

Still like our snek boy though

[dapper gyro]

Clonegrim is interesting, what happens if heeet Clonegnus?

[paper haven]

Amazing

[arctic talon]

If it’s one of biles perfect clones it’ll likely be just like sanguinius.

The same way Clonegrim was just like fulgrim, though they way they both went chaosy was different

Clonegrim was very much going along the “same” path

[vagrant fox]

But, you see, the fandom keeps wanking loyalist clonegrim

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda wish that he at least was falling into something different

Like not Slaanesh

Idk it just seems kinda a bit lame to literally having him fall to the same God

Like part of the reason why he fell is by accident

Like have Clonegrim fall to Nurgle because he feels depressed that he can't change his fate

For example

Slaanesh I know you're the god of excess but you can't just have two pet snakes

You just can't

Smh

Also on an extremely off topic note

Can I just mention that I think The Thing has one thing (ba dum tss) that I don't think any similar infections or monsters did?

The genuine fear of not knowing.

Like usually any infection or whatever either have the victims be mindless or aware and screaming for death

And that's not a bad trope.

Both are scary in their own right

But I think the scariest part about The Thing is that for any of the victims. You don't know if they're aware they're infected or not

Whether they're just pretending, or if they genuinely don't know only for the Thing to just burst out of them

And all of the characters are genuinely scared whether they're infected or not. Especially in that infamous blood test scene.

It goes to show that the Unknown is far more scarier than any type of answer

Are the victims of the Thing alive? Are they being controlled? Are they even aware they are?

Are they part of a hive mind now? Lobotomized to be willing pawns? Or are they screaming for help. Help that nobody can hear? Or do they just not know?

We don't know. And that's infinitely more terrifying than if we did

All the characters know and all we know is that somebody is infected. And that they're a danger.

And I don't think many pieces of media manage to capture the same amount of paranoia and dread that the Thing ever had

[dire loom]

Maybe we'll get a Eldar Mercenary Sah?

[opaque coyote]

...to be honest that would be goated. But probably not.

Lore wise, Darktide is all about low level grunts doing dirty work. And an Eldar mercenary is usually rather powerful

Besides, Mechanicus would be much better

[dire loom]

Something similar to that one dark Eldar dude from Rogue Trader would be peak.

[opaque coyote]

Basically if you matched an average Eldar with like zero training

With an extremely train guardsman

[dire loom]

Plus duel wielding

[opaque coyote]

Put them in a boxing match

...

The Eldar will win

[dire loom]

Dark Mechanicum*

[opaque coyote]

Like unless if the guardsman got that Black Library branded plot armor.

[dire loom]

Jokes aside, yes. Something similar to that one Tech Priest from Rogue Trader too.

[opaque coyote]

Also because Mechanicus weapons would be fun to use

[dire loom]

The engineseer should voice act one of the VOs too.

Peak

[opaque coyote]

Like imagine slapping a large amount of fodder with mechadendrites

"MOVE BITCH GET OUT THE WAY"

[dire loom]

Plasma and gauss, plus melta and vaporizer weapons would be cool.

Ion too

True that lol

[arctic talon]

Fulgrim explicitly would have fallen to slaanesh with or without the blade due to his ego

Even before the Clonegrim stuff was made real

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik, I just think that it's a good chance for a mix up

Doesn't really matter since well, he's not really important and he's also part of Trazyn's collection now.

But idk there's some cool things you can do

Falling to Slaanesh again is just lame to me lmao

I do remember seeing a comic where OG Fulgrim and Clonegrim fought. And OG Fulgrim basically broke him physically and mentally

It was a cool idea

[crystal forum]

fulgrim would have fallen to chaos if horus just asked

he was already selfish and corruptable before the blade

[opaque coyote]

Definitely. I think that maybe the god could've been different depending on how things are going.

Selfishness just seems to be a general trait that makes it easier to corrupt.

[nova scaffold]

do the imperium has half tracks?

[humble salmon]

great now im imagining guilliman in a k-truck

[nova scaffold]

hear me out

[humble salmon]

[nova scaffold]

is my favorite contraptions

i have it in 28mm

[humble salmon]

SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE GUILIMAN IN ONE OF THOSE THINGS

[nova scaffold]

hear me out

[nova scaffold]

rate easky tractor

[crystal forum]

it has a 4x4 tracked truck

[nova scaffold]

technically its not a half tracks

[crystal forum]

i didn't say it was

[nova scaffold]

its technically fully tracked

not a half track

[nova scaffold]

also i imagine the gun fired by accident when troops getting through the door

[crystal forum]

it can also have the autocannons on top

open top option for the taurox prime

driver on the left because the british can't drive

featuring a very weird looking pintle storm bolter

not my favorite guard vehicle

there's a concerning lack of wheels in the entire faction

it's like votaan stole all the rubber

[surreal nest]

Helldivers 2 community manager unironically claimed that the new fortnite season was very similar to helldivers, and basically said it was obviously inspired by them. Its a "we have helldivers at home"

Ive never seen a game company sniff their own farts that hard, Witchhunter Dilara was right lmfao

[opaque coyote]

It's either that or that community manager sucks

Probably both

[surreal nest]

Yeah i imagine the developers are well informed enough to know their entire game is starship troopers. Like even down to the forms and politics lmfao

Its just so annoying

[shadow plover]

I just saw someone post an orbital strike on fortnite and saying this probably was a scrapped helldivers collab

[surreal nest]

Dude I just saw that

And then they posted a clip of a scene of propaganda of a soldier on a mountain of bugs and they said it was a copy of helldivers

BROTHER PLEASE HELLDIVERS DID NOT INVENT SPACE PROPAGANDA AND BUGS

[opaque coyote]

What do you mean citizen? Super Earth totally invented Space Pro- Truth!

Now then, go fight for democracy.

(that is controlled by AI)

((...God this is becoming more real and I hate it))

[dapper gyro]

Young people don't even know what StarCraft is nowadays.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they haven't made another game in years

I barely know what it is

I know it exists

[dapper gyro]

It was the bug vs men game.

Oh know, you are one of them.

[opaque coyote]

Bug vs Men is surprisingly popular

I think it existed even before starship troopers

I think the 1950s scifi movies started it

[dapper gyro]

Yes, it did.

[opaque coyote]

With like the giant ants and shit

[dapper gyro]

Most helldiver 2 players don't even know what helldiver 1 is...

[tough haven]

Random shitpost I found

https://youtu.be/iCB-RnfQg5M?si=Q6F2llV8Ey9DzTUz

[surreal nest]

This is the worst thing I have ever listened to and yet I can't turn it off

Have I been corrupted?

[plush mason]

the brainrot has claimed you

[plush mason]

bug vs men vs big blue dudes

and tbf at least Blizzard didnt go "what if warcraft but in space"

what they ended up with was very much just "we have warhammer 40k at home" though

[dapper gyro]

I wouldn't call it "warhammer at home".

Both arts and designs direction are very different.

[queen laurel]

yeah it has similarities but you know

It's different enough

[summer mural]

i dont even know what 2 is

i do however know what killing floor 2 is

quite well

[queen laurel]

Like the similarities of Terran, protoss, and zerg to imperium, eldar and tyranids is gonna always echo but like they have differences you don't confuse them anyway

A lot of the setting is completely different

[raven stone]

Morning

Metaphorical pain at work

[plush mason]

the terrans are the most unique

protos are just eldar with funny legs and the zergs are just full on tyranids

[dapper gyro]

Terran is space cowboys more than space knight.

[plush mason]

yup

[queen laurel]

Awesome vehicles too

[dapper gyro]

Protoss talk through mind, they don't even have mouth.

Also energy blade instead of blade with neon...

[plush mason]

the fact the marines are canonically all reformed criminals is also really neat

[dapper gyro]

Not even reformed, they are repurposed criminal.

The suit is their prison cell.

[plush mason]

they are a highly psychic race with crystal tech

[plush mason]

nah that was only for Titus

or whatever his name was

[dapper gyro]

People who think of it as "just copy 40k are borderline blind".

[dapper gyro]

Tychus

[plush mason]

yeah

[dapper gyro]

But it applies to the majority of the marines.

[plush mason]

the normal marines are reformed criminals

[arctic talon]

The only thing based on warhammer 100% directly was the original warcraft

[plush mason]

and the suits can be taken off whenever

[arctic talon]

before Bliz couldn't get the license

but warcraft 1 is ass so it doesn't matter

[plush mason]

yeah its why i said what they ended up with was "40k at home" its not but it very much feels like it

[arctic talon]

a lot of the terran infantry are "reformed" criminals lol

[plush mason]

all the marines and firebats

[arctic talon]

Reapers as well

[queen laurel]

but they do have normal marine volunteers right

[arctic talon]

yes

[dapper gyro]

Marines are also heavy infantry

[arctic talon]

but its most common for the Dominion to use "reformed"(read: brainwashed) criminals

[dapper gyro]

They have light infantry, aka troopers. However, they are not in the game.

[arctic talon]

They're in the campaign and co-op

ig

lol

[plush mason]

and the confederacy before them iirc

[dapper gyro]

Yeah, they are in Mengks unit in Coop.

[arctic talon]

also in Covert ops

these dudes lol

[dapper gyro]

Canonically, they are the base infantry unit.

[arctic talon]

their actual portrait looks much better

[dapper gyro]

And Marines is deployed when shit hit the fan.

[arctic talon]

like just from a design asset

tbh there's no situations in SC2

[plush mason]

which is why both games dont use them as such lol

[arctic talon]

where we'd deploy troopers

lol

in like the Terran campaign

[plush mason]

blizzard loves leaving stuff like that out of the games

[dapper gyro]

The old model is just a dude with normal helmet, lol.

[arctic talon]

tbh

if its redundent

it doesn't matter

thats Blizzards thing for SC2

[queen laurel]

these guys are ingame

[arctic talon]

they tried to avoid redundancy as much as possible

those are the Mengsk troopers

[queen laurel]

They are in the newest commander

[arctic talon]

which are dif

technically

[dapper gyro]

It is what elite and I talking of.

[arctic talon]

there's some variation in unit mass and crap but it doesn't really matter

[plush mason]

they are citizen milita basically

[arctic talon]

There's also actual trained soldiers

but Mengsk's in Co-op are a civilian milita yeah

[dapper gyro]

Even the weapon swap of those troopers was originally in the alpha of SC2.

For the normal marines.

[arctic talon]

tbh

It would have been interesting

if we had gotten some of the alpha ideas

not the alpha mother ship

[queen laurel]

hey those civilians can win against god's strongest soldier so i don't know why bringing that up will matter

[arctic talon]

the anti attack aura was cool ig

[dapper gyro]

Tychus with gatling used to be "upgraded machinegun" Marines.

[queen laurel]

[arctic talon]

but the fucking

black hole on the alpha mothership

instantly killing everything was

[queen laurel]

i need to get mengk in coop

[dapper gyro]

The shoulder missile AA marines was an upgrade, one of the character in the campaign picture has those.

[arctic talon]

its the engineer dude

I think

[dapper gyro]

Then the flame marines, which is basically SC1 Firebat.

[arctic talon]

swann?

SC2 firebats have a weird windup

which makes them total ass lol

thank god most modded campaigns remove it