#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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Yeah the slavic ones

celest dome
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I wonder if they're meant to reference on Ulrika (As she became mostly beast like during the ET)

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Well, the FEC does have Ushoran in the group

rocky gale
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Expansive lore

rose thorn
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Huh I wonder who controls the court of the eyeless queen….

rocky gale
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Soulblight has Von Carstien, Nulahmian, Avengorii, Kastelai and Vrykos

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Von Carsteins are the same, Nulahmian are the Lahmians, Kastelai are the new Blood Dragons

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So Vrykos and Avengorii are basically replacements for Necarch and Strigoi in their roster

surreal nest
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what the fuck is this

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i love it

queen laurel
surreal nest
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That is such a warhammer vehicle

shadow plover
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fat fuck on tracks

queen laurel
surreal nest
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That seems like it would definitely do it

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i'd love a model for that

fervent gull
# queen laurel Colossus Bombard

I love how most artillery vehicles in the IG are some bigass arty cannon and some chimera chassis slapped together in like ork logic lol

vagrant fox
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rip ragnarok heavy tank you were too beautiful for this world

nova scaffold
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haya @queen laurel

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im back

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hru green ternamator head buddy

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is everyone in this chat sleeping?

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helo?

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btw i got plans

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like im thinking on how to paint this?

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im thinking about these colors

celest dome
queen laurel
shrewd depot
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That is a disappointing barrel situation

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All that gun meat and it just ends in this tiiiiiny tesla coil

celest dome
queen laurel
queen laurel
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What the hell

nova scaffold
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so yeah thats the colors imma use for Easkovite armored vehicles

shrewd depot
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I know 'naval' warfare isn't exactly a thing in 40k, but I'd love some spider boats for the mechanicus

queen laurel
shrewd depot
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I mean, it is. Its just space boats now

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Space is just ocean+

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But you can't really do spider ships in space the way I'm thinking

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Tho I'm sure the Tyranids have some spider ships

celest dome
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Are you a fan of Supreme Commander ?

shrewd depot
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This man gets me

celest dome
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I do, I truly do

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The Cybran are such a cool faction

nova scaffold
shrewd depot
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Definitely where I got my first taste of 'machine over man'

gaunt lily
queen laurel
nova scaffold
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but in physical 15mm release it has blue color on pannels

surreal nest
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Spy vs spy looking miniatures

nova scaffold
surreal nest
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My ignorance is palpable

nova scaffold
shrewd depot
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Somewhere, at some point in time, fucking anteaters fought for the Imperium

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God I love 40k when its truly silly

queen laurel
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That's quar

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different setting

nova scaffold
gaunt lily
nova scaffold
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quar is like warhammer but you not spending 45 per 5 vets

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like you get 24 solders per 40 bucks

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in plastic release

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and you got different resin tanks

celest dome
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Are they monopose ?

nova scaffold
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?

nova scaffold
queen laurel
celest dome
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Are the miniature in different pieces that have only 1 way to be assembled ?

nova scaffold
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it got different arms

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and heads

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and the best part is that you can kitbash different units

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and you can print the arms and you can get plastic release

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see

nova scaffold
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current you got crusader 24 packs, coftyrans 24 packs, coftyrans specialist/command, crusader specialist/command and the fidwogs

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if you wanna start quar i recommend you to get fidwogs because you get 12 fidwoggers and 2 fynrydhads escort tractors @celest dome

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how you think

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you can get the plastic release in wargame Atlantic

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many other sets and the older metal 15mm

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and if you want stl to print it for cheaper

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go to myminifactory

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got it

celest dome
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I'm certainly not planning on doing that, sorry

nova scaffold
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i like to talk about quar

surreal nest
nova scaffold
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its my spirit animal

nova scaffold
nova scaffold
nova scaffold
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the RCC carbine ammo which is .33 caliber do exist

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kinda

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well the closest thing is the 33 winchester which is 8.5mm

dapper gyro
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There are a handful of .33 and .338 ammunition since the later 1800s.

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And if you did deep enough, you can pretty much find something similar to whatever you want them to somewhere in history.

nova scaffold
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or wanna tell me which side BIG E falls on

dapper gyro
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You see the Russian history of the early 20th century?

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A dream of utopia turned into a dictatorship...

nova scaffold
nova scaffold
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the yaegir looks like they all are fat lmao

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i know because the armor under a trench coat

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but its just goofy

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i know they gonna beat my ass but i still gonna call them obese leprechaun

raven stone
raven stone
# nova scaffold who are you

I used to run by "InsaneInquisitor", but then was told it wasn't really going to work for an online first meeting with someone. So I went with Display Name as a joke.

Then the string of numbers is just the Darktide FatShark code :p

nova scaffold
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ok

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you heard of quar

raven stone
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I saw it mentioned, not deeply aware of them admittedly

nova scaffold
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the lore and rules of quar are free

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in zombiesmith an wargame Atlantic

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in pdf form

raven stone
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Ah ok, nice

nova scaffold
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btw their is technically 2 version of quar game wise

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the 28mm and 15mm

raven stone
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much like the size morphing Astartes miniatures I see

nova scaffold
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so yeah quars are actually ant eaters

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idk why people constantly mistook them for worms

raven stone
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I was wondering what they were. I thought they were moles XD

nova scaffold
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how you mistook them for moles

raven stone
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Or maybe I am using the wrong animal name lol

raven stone
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Must be the snout

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That and I was only going by minis and had no idea the lore existed as a PDF before tonight lol

nova scaffold
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their snoots are long

nova scaffold
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since their is different options

raven stone
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Sadly no, busy with a long delayed project

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Due to house moving

nova scaffold
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oof

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so can i reccomend you options

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like the best options is fidwogs since you get 12 rhyflers and 2 Fynrydhad escort tractors

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for less then 40 bucks compared to warhammer

raven stone
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Well, I will keep this interesting choice in mind. Right now want to get started on some long desired Imperial Agent conversions...

nova scaffold
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i reccomend watching from mishmash channel

terse kestrel
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Does Fenris have a viking Guard army?

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Or viking planetary defence force

storm jungle
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they got these, which are essentially just more better equipped serfs, not really guardsmen-esque

nova scaffold
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i got goofy question

storm jungle
nova scaffold
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since like my friend and i gonna combine warhammer and quar

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i wonder

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how much is too much units for a space marine team can handle

dapper gyro
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Pretty sure she will write "It depends".

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Then refuse to answer

storm jungle
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I do answer it you dipshit lol

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tf you want me to do when someone asks "Muhammed Ali or Mike Tyson"

storm jungle
dapper gyro
storm jungle
dapper gyro
nova scaffold
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imma tell him their is no limit on how much he can bring

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but i will not tell about that

sacred bluff
storm jungle
nova scaffold
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basically like 10 kids vs 1 billion wasp

nova scaffold
storm jungle
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🫡

nova scaffold
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basically 6 guys but 1 gun

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and easky tactic of conbine arms and blitz the shit out of him

storm jungle
nova scaffold
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just make sure he is absolutely gob smacked from the blitz

nova scaffold
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ill prob drive the one guy who is running zombiesmith

storm jungle
nova scaffold
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like the entire store is run by one guy

nova scaffold
storm jungle
nova scaffold
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oh

storm jungle
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not interested in tabletop

nova scaffold
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im currently thinking on how do i paint it

nova scaffold
nova scaffold
storm jungle
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Yeah I legit got no idea sorry

nova scaffold
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is ok

storm jungle
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im not into minis or know much about em

nova scaffold
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i just need to hear some opinions

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since i sometimes not trust my own ideas

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because it do backfired horribly

storm jungle
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well blue panels/grey undertones sounds good tbh, go for it id say

nova scaffold
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sore

nova scaffold
dapper gyro
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You do airbrush?

nova scaffold
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my house ventalation is bad

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because the house is over 100 years old

nova scaffold
dapper gyro
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Don't get that box then. Those are very messy to work with brushes.

nova scaffold
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and i usually brush on and works well

dapper gyro
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If it works for you, awesome. Just careful of the fume, because the Air colour line is pretty toxic.

nova scaffold
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and put the bendy pipe out the window

nova scaffold
dapper gyro
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I don't know. You can let your imagination fly high.

nova scaffold
dapper gyro
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Fun fact, imagination can be learnt.

nova scaffold
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since i dont imagine it

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since well idk why

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especially my ideas in reality is just a ripoff of something i heard or witnessed

nova scaffold
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hm

dapper gyro
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It is ok to take idea from elsewhere and modify it to your liking.

nova scaffold
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i do worry that i might steal ideas

dapper gyro
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Even in nature, convergent evolution is a thing.

nova scaffold
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oki

nova scaffold
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like get much easky force as possible

dapper gyro
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I don't play table top... I only play video games and read fluffs.

nova scaffold
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just to be like a 3 kids vs 5 billion wasp on crack

nova scaffold
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which he has warhammer army

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but imma not tell him that im getting easky army

terse kestrel
nova scaffold
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so yeah im probally get houndreds of Easkovite and tractors

storm jungle
green loom
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Fenris doesn't really have organized guard

nova scaffold
green loom
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That was another planet in system but it got blown up

nova scaffold
green loom
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Fenris itself has the tribes

wet sandal
green loom
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And the space wolves

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And that's about it

dapper gyro
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What a waste of beer...

wet sandal
storm jungle
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mmmm

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beer

dapper gyro
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Beer wasted, she is wasted, no fun...

storm jungle
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all women all fun

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get this guy out of the bar 🗣️

outer wave
nova scaffold
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who here has a warhammer army?

wet sandal
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wait you don't? btfo poser

nova scaffold
wet sandal
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/s

nova scaffold
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?

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im confused

storm jungle
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its a joke dingus

nova scaffold
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oh

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:(

storm jungle
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:]

green loom
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I have like

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A squad of intercessors

outer wave
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I have 2 models

wet sandal
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i have a 3d printer and a gorillion points worth of unpainted models

outer wave
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I'd love to use my lil brother's 3D printer

wet sandal
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i'm painting a ballistus arm rn

outer wave
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But I got no idea how to use it

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Also it's his

dapper gyro
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Isn't 3d printed ones are illegal to play in official?

wet sandal
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i'm not playing official any time soon

outer wave
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Imagine actually playing the game

wet sandal
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it's actually quite fun

outer wave
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I imagine it is

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Its just that every time I look in, I see people complaining about nerfs and points cost and how awful some new units are

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Not to mention the actual expenses going into it

dapper gyro
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It is fun, but it is not for poor people like me.

outer wave
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Yee

wet sandal
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as a very wise man once said, warhammer is like drugs, except drugs are cheaper and more socially acceptable

dapper gyro
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In fact, if you spend on weeb, you get more friends.

arctic talon
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but technically yeah

dapper gyro
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I was in a anime con the other day and my local tabletop store had a booth. They offers 5$/marine mini that you can paint yourself with their paints.

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Sound good until I did a price assessment...

wet sandal
dapper gyro
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Exactly... it is free at their store.

sacred ginkgo
wet sandal
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my store does that all year round

green loom
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5 bucks sounds fine for that at an event tbh

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Knowers get it free

dapper gyro
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Canadian $

green loom
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Isn't that less than 5 bucks

dapper gyro
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😢

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Outside of events, their store has a full spue for 5$.

iron lantern
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Can't help but feel bad for Rubric Marines. Sure they are Heretics but wasn't there fault they got curse of binding in their armor

green loom
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It wasn't their fault they got turned into defective murder warriors either

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Marines are pretty sad when you think about it

summer mural
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The rubrics actually did no wrong

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They were also just good at being marines when they were crusading

storm jungle
storm jungle
crisp heath
storm jungle
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Tizca 😩

wet sandal
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who got the worse deal, tsons who got rubricked against their will or death guard who got nurglified against their will

storm jungle
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Death Guard even with chaos shit actively enjoy their position

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Rubrics cant do anything, they are automatons with trapped souls lol

crisp heath
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I think the dg have a much nicer god 🤔

storm jungle
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Nurgle at least actively manipulates the Death Guard to accept the inevitability of life/decay/death and be uncaring or jolly about it

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Rubrics are uhhh

wet sandal
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are rubrick cognisant of their state?

storm jungle
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They arent aware of anything.

wet sandal
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doesnt sound so bad

storm jungle
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their soul/conciousness essentially exist in a limbo

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it's just an endless whispering fever dream

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This is how they see the world

wet sandal
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well there are cases when death guard are cutoff from nurgles influence, and experience the horror of their state full force

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arguably feeling pretty much nothing is preferable

storm jungle
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Well yeah but they still are aware

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Rubrics are just fucking roombas with bolters

crisp heath
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Tzeetch pranked them so hard

storm jungle
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like, literally not even joking

wet sandal
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personally i would rather be a pinch of dust than asmongold

paper haven
wet sandal
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to the person who got turned into a rubrick, what their former shell is doing is irrelevant, roombas or not

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but saturation bombing an imperial city with mustard gas does sound like a fun activity to do with the boys

storm jungle
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Now you get it

wet sandal
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i mean sure, i'd rather not fight the Long War, but if i am fighting it i might as well have a swarm of 2kg flies buzzing around me

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plus death guard objectively have the most aura out of all the traitor legions, and i'm not just talking about pestilence

summer mural
winter vessel
opaque coyote
# storm jungle I wonder what they think on this

Usually it's either that or

"I don't know my name. I don't remember what I look like. My body... where is my body? Did I even have one? I tried to scream for help but nothing arose. Somebody please help me before I disappear again."

opaque coyote
# storm jungle

Seriously though this implies that they remember a bit whenever somebody says something related to them

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like their name

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Which kinda fucking sucks since the descriptions basically have the equivalent of like

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You're drowning, somebody brings you back to the surface

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only to let go and continue to drown because you're unable to swim

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It's an eternal state of dementia with no end, periods of lucidity slipping away like trying to grasp at a waterfall.

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It's up there in the "Fates worse than death" tierlist

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...actually making a 40k tierlist of "fates worse than death" would be funny as shit

wet sandal
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Death isn't a particularly pleasant affair in 40k either, considering your soul is verifiably real and bad things certainly can happen to it after you die

opaque coyote
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like a calm disappation rather than

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idk

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"Oh god everything is agony"

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I like to think that reincarnation is a thing in 40k. Purely because the Eldar used to do it.

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It's just that they could control it before the warp became chaotic

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Also it's because it would theoretically be funny if some mutant dies

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and they're like

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"Ah finally... the pain is over"

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...

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and then they get born as some random native xeno moments before an imperium invasion

nova scaffold
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oh hai @opaque coyote hru

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hru

thick cedar
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Can a psyker basically manipulate reality in any way they want if theyre powerful enough?

opaque coyote
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See: The Emperor

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He's a Psyker

thick cedar
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or simple stuff like imagine theyre holding a lightbulb and it will shine simply because they demanded it

opaque coyote
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A very very powerful one

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Other examples include

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Malcador

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Magnus

thick cedar
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Can they do other wild shit? Like if a psyker wanted to recreate that murder piano from mario 64, could they?

opaque coyote
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I think Magnus also moved an entire imperium ship using telekinesis

thick cedar
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I remember hearing a story about how magnus destroyed a fleet simply because he made a side comment about how he wished it wasnt there or something

opaque coyote
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I think there's a psyker power chart somewhere

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this is fanmade but I think it works

thick cedar
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Its a pretty easy to understand chart

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So alphas are like Hercules, demi-gods. Alpha plus are like full on gods?

opaque coyote
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Then again, Psyker scales are also inconsistent

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The Scale itself was made for the Inquistor novels

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...

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who then promptly ignored it

opaque coyote
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Psykers (with the exception of the emperor and malcador)

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also specialize in different things

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For example, Ahriman is powerful, but his main skill is in his telepathy and foresight.

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He was a seer, not a war mage. He can still fucking turn you inside out and then turn the remains to ash.

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But he can't do it to a Titan

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In the end, it kinda depends on the writer.

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...so basically the result of most powerscaling convos.

thick cedar
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I heard psykers "specialize" in powers based on their personality or something

opaque coyote
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Basically they're equivalent to studies

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If you're more interested in telepathy, you go for telepathy

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Although in general, since Psykers draw energy from the warp, the more powerful you are, the more shit you can do.

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Essentially having easily imaginable and shapeable "spells" allows them to cast shit easier.

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Depending on the power level of the Psyker, the higher the "battery" you have. A psyker can burn out if they cast too much stuff.

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Which usually causes bad things since daemons see a free meal

arctic talon
thick cedar
arctic talon
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Yeah

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Sorta

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It’s mostly mentality and training

dire loom
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They can control their powers better than most.

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Not summoning a deamon at random is another factor.

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Still funny when they explode though still. Lol

celest dome
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Our Psyker aren't that strong, they're not using the same level of power as a Primaris Psyker

shadow plover
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Your run of the mill battle psyker

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The fact there are so many is the wild part

dire loom
dire loom
shadow plover
dire loom
opaque coyote
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"This better not be a fucking peril this better not be a-"

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immediately gets mind defenses slammed by daemons

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"IN THE EMPEROR'S NAME COULD YOU GUYS LEAVE ME ALONE FOR TWO SECONDS."

shadow plover
opaque coyote
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prudes

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imagine having things constantly claw at your head 24/7

shadow plover
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True true

dapper gyro
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Canonically, Darktide psyker has a somewhat hard time against orgyn foe, they are really not that powerful.

opaque coyote
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I think they usually have the power to like destroy a city

dapper gyro
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Deamonhost power varies greatly as well.

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But yes, it is not a 4 dudes job.

opaque coyote
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smh

dapper gyro
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Also, from the canon point of view, the rejects only ever meet 2 monstrosities.

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One in the factory/train map, the other is dark communion.

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The 1st one, after you disable the AA guns, some air support is supposed to come in to help you out.

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But again, gameplay reason.

celest dome
opaque coyote
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eh not really

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closest I can find though

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I think Plaguebearers usually only have one horn

sturdy sedge
celest dome
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Nurgling have Cow horns, Plaguebearers have bones one.
GUO have wood ones

opaque coyote
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the horns kinda look sorta wood like

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either those seals must be REALLY good or the GUO doesn't really have his heart in it

celest dome
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Or the process doesn't let the deamon express a lot of its power

opaque coyote
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considering that the host also has like a lot of physical mutations, it must've been a while

misty vector
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i think theres just a lot of variables in the power of a daemonhost based on the demon, the person and the bindings

storm jungle
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^

misty vector
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(though of course, every daemonhost we see in the game is the exact same)

celest dome
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Due to gameplay reason

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Well gameplay and finite dev time

opaque coyote
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since the daemonhost teleports away when they kill somebody

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also because it's funny

celest dome
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Well, that doesn't always work when you sometime have double DH active

celest dome
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I hope we get monster variants at some point

opaque coyote
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...still funny to imagine though

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"HELLO."

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"OH BY THE EMPEROR DIDN'T WE JUST KILL YOU."

celest dome
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A ranged DH that is weaker but will throw balls of plague fire and teleport away after a couple of seconds

opaque coyote
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"IT WAS OF LITTLE CONSEQUENCE."

opaque coyote
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I don't think the game would be fun if the entire level just blew up

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Idk it's just funny to imagine the cult not being able to bind any greater daemons or anything

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so they just gave up and binded a nurgling instead

celest dome
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Deamonhost are only as strong as the power that the Deamon is able to channel through to the material realm

opaque coyote
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Are Daemonhosts like

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trapping the daemon?

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Or more like a puppet for them to control

shadow plover
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trapping one

celest dome
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Puppets

opaque coyote
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Yeah a lot of them don't seem to treat it like a big deal tho

celest dome
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They're basically a meat-suit for the Deamon

opaque coyote
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You'd think they would be madder if you trapped them.

shadow plover
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they're under the control of whomever bound them to the body

celest dome
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Like Possession, but with shackles

opaque coyote
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Well significantly madder than they already are

celest dome
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It really depend on who and why the Deamonhost is made

opaque coyote
celest dome
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Like Inquisitor do it to trap and use, Cults do it to have the power and mind of a Greater Deamon when they can't summon them

opaque coyote
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all the right sigils and such

shadow plover
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Pretty sure a daemonhost is not a willing daemon inhabiting the body

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they're trapped to the body against their will

opaque coyote
celest dome
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Or use as power source

opaque coyote
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problem is that uh

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it's in a meatsack

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and might be used as a battery

opaque coyote
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"Why have you trapped me..."

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"I need to charge my phone"

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"Are you fucking serious rn"

storm jungle
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at the end of the day its entirely based on exorcism practices so any rule goes really

opaque coyote
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Idk I just like that type of exorcist ahh possession style shit

opaque coyote
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smh

surreal nest
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genuine question, how do space wolves players exist

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who does this faction appeal to

celest dome
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I don't think the Wulfen are really popular even for the SW players

surreal nest
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Even the bloodclaw hairstyles are hideous

celest dome
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There used to be a dude here that was really into SW to the point of glazing over their flaws

surreal nest
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Although I guess I will admit I actually have never seen somebody choose those heads

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disney villain looking ass

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top right head is the best GW head model I've ever seen though so I'll take back my flame and go away

storm jungle
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Its the same reason people love Knight + Samurai slop, these 3 are the holy cultural trinity engrossed/consumed by western and other media

surreal nest
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That is extremely fair, but I do like deathwing at the same time

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i think they did a good job with their recent knights

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though i understand it also ironically used to be a native american represented legion that got overtaken by white european arthurian vibes

storm jungle
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Its because the knight aesthetics in fiction are usually not that over-exposed or at least done well because even IRL they got some modicum of restraint-ish.

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Vikings are all about flamboyance + fiction/media flanderizing them more than what they already were

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hence the horned helmet berserker image VS irl where they are just in helmets with chainmail and just look like bearded blokes etc

storm jungle
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Lmao yeah pretty much

surreal nest
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The irony in space wolves players practically being sheep!

surreal nest
# storm jungle

call me mr contrarian but I prefer the realistic hobo chainmail drip

storm jungle
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nah its absolutely fair

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theres some IRL viking creations where they legit look amazing, chainamil is also an absolute minimalist drip choice

surreal nest
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i am also one of those historical gear shitters so i cant pretend im not biased

storm jungle
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its why scabs are also extremely drippy

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chainmail armor/cloth over semi-reasonable flak armor is a great look

surreal nest
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i love and and i mean love how 40k utilizes fucking chainmail

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i have never seen a sci fi universe use it

storm jungle
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Yeah its mostly because almost no sci-fi universe has fantasy elements like 40k does

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where people rightfully even argue 40k is fantasy in space, not space with fantasy elements

surreal nest
#

fantasy in space makes so much sense its not even funny

storm jungle
#

Yep especially due to 40k's origin

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it was a shoot-off of Warhammer Fantasy

surreal nest
#

fantasy was first right?

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yup

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thats so cool\

storm jungle
#

yeah exactly

sacred ginkgo
#

Reminded me that despite knowing how to make beskar chainmail, the mandalorions just don’t because removing most armor joint weaknesses is overrated apparently

surreal nest
#

i am an avid starwars disliker but i do love me some mandos

#

not like those conservative grifters that scream about the new ones I just cant get into it as a universe

storm jungle
#

Star Wars is good it just kinda suffers from bad media portrayals

#

also watch Andor staregryn

sacred ginkgo
#

Andor is so fucking good

storm jungle
#

ANDOR GANG RISE UP

surreal nest
#

you will never guess what i have set up already

#

i was actually about to watch it because i stole my friends disney plus

storm jungle
#

LMAO BASED

#

Yeah Andor is like a fucking cultural milestone for star wars i think

sacred ginkgo
#

Marathon the entire thing and then rogue one

storm jungle
#

the show about the most "who?" character being the most legendary star wars media since the original trilogy

surreal nest
#

Ok I actually loved rogue one

storm jungle
#

A lot of people did tbh

#

also actually fun fact

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the creator of rogue one Gilroy who also heads the show made painstakingly sure almost everything from the show is accurate to where Cassian ends up in Rogue One

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

like ridiculously so, makes watching the film after the show a fucking great experienc

storm jungle
#

wait until you see the leadup to it in S2

#

it actually is a rare tv scene where i teared up in its aftermath, its really close to home in this age too

surreal nest
#

the movies never made the empire seem really, i guess realistically evil? just cartoonish. But that made me uncomfortable

#

like oooo i blow up your planet ooooo

storm jungle
#

Yeah you'll see a ton of that realistic evil in Andor

sacred ginkgo
storm jungle
#

from cultural erosion, oppressing the populace, slave labor, executions, etc

#

its VERY proper WW2 Nazi Germany

surreal nest
#

I'm actually really excited at the idea of getting more into starwars' politics. That side always interested me

storm jungle
#

Yeah you'll love Andor for that too, it explores about every mundane side of the rebellion

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from the highest defector politicians to the lowliest rebels etc

surreal nest
#

I found it really intersesting how the Republic basically commited a false flag operation against the CIS to grab more power

sacred ginkgo
#

Also real rebellion stuff like “please we need money right now please”

surreal nest
#

or the guy whatever

storm jungle
#

^

#

Yeah Palpatine played everyone lol

#

as ever, extremely relevant

surreal nest
#

Is the mandalorian also slop? worth a watch at all?

storm jungle
#

Season 1 yes

#

after that it goes into slop unfortunately

surreal nest
#

Figured

#

I saw bill bur in an episode and I was like ok buddy

sacred ginkgo
#

Mandalorian started good then he became a hero

#

Instead of one of the last survivors of a dead race just trying to not to die

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

Yeah basically the show was another case of "wow people actually wanna see the dirty unexplored morally grey/black side of star wars and watch this thing? Huh"

To

"Anyway lets turn it into a brand-wagon to promote our other shows and make the main Mando guy a fucking superhero."

surreal nest
#

idk if hes an antihero

storm jungle
#

He is at the start

#

then he just becomes a hero because marketing

surreal nest
#

Yeah that's tragic

storm jungle
#

and we cant have kids not like our semi-asshole protagonist

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lol

sacred ginkgo
#

He’s just morally flexible at the beginning so he can eat

storm jungle
#

Yeah that

#

he only does what he does because bounty hunters need money lol

sacred ginkgo
#

He has morals but a job is a job

surreal nest
#

I love that dynamic, sad to hear that they abandoned it

storm jungle
#

Yeah again bandwagon for other shows until it becomes meaningless

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its why people are glad Andor is just 2 seasons

#

very clear beginning, middle and end, kinda spoilers but not really but the show ends JUST as Cassian is going onto that one planet to meet the informant in Rogue One

#

its legit perfect

sacred ginkgo
#

Wasn’t every arc of season 2 supposed to be a season

#

At some point

scenic bolt
#

andor was also written by people who had some amount of disdain for SW

storm jungle
#

^ lmao

storm jungle
scenic bolt
#

filoni wouldnt have been able to write andor

storm jungle
#

its immensely difficult

surreal nest
#

It sucks that not liking starwars puts you in the implied position of the people who think the last jedi is symbolism for the great replacement theory lmfao

#

but im definitely a little bit excited to watch andor

storm jungle
#

Lmfao fuck sakes

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

it turned a literal murdering badass dickhead to a public hero

sacred ginkgo
storm jungle
queen laurel
surreal nest
#

I'm cool with that tbh

storm jungle
#

yeah just making sure

#

some fucking idiots got the attention span of a rock for these things

#

"where muh lightsabres"

surreal nest
#

breaking bad and dexter are my two favorite pieces of media in history feel free to sue me

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
#

The only thing I can remember of book of boba fett is like

#

His water bed thing

sacred ginkgo
#

And the Mario kart scene

queen laurel
surreal nest
#

I actually got so angry when I found out dexter got removed from netflix and now I gotta get paramount

#

also finding out that I have like 3 different dexter shows to get through

storm jungle
#

Me when I found out Daredevil Born Again is good so I gotta finish the original show's S3 I never watched

#

💀

surreal nest
#

I dont fuck with marvel they made me angry when they canceled Luke Cage

storm jungle
#

DUDE, REAL

surreal nest
#

unironically the best superhero media i have ever seen

sacred ginkgo
queen laurel
storm jungle
#

its not mandatory but it adds a lot more weight to it

sacred ginkgo
#

It made more then enough sense so it was fine

queen laurel
#

I have not seen every gumball episode

storm jungle
#

Fisk is such a fucking piece of shit

#

"No way they'd let a literal criminal into an government office"

sacred ginkgo
#

Where have I heard that line before

storm jungle
#

Who knows staregryn

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
#

Several places actually

storm jungle
surreal nest
#

just realized that by essence of stealing disney plus I can now re-watch luke cage vs bushmaster

storm jungle
#

"No more body cams, no more due process"

sacred ginkgo
#

Wrong coast for that bit

storm jungle
surreal nest
#

yeah so anyways I hope space wolves players have an itch at their mid-back region when they're trying to sleep

storm jungle
#

Same

#

they deserve nothing

surreal nest
#

I wonder if the space wolf community was outraged when they saw the non white marine heads in the new kit

sacred ginkgo
#

The wrong part of it was

surreal nest
#

I cant fault the community as a whole, we have astra militarum players who like Krieg

sacred ginkgo
#

Doesn’t fenris have old ass 90’s lore that talks about dark skinned native populations on the planet

surreal nest
#

I guarantee you they would have

sacred ginkgo
#

Like

surreal nest
#

I remember the cadian women outrage in the new kit. Not really an outrage as a couple of people screaming as loud as they could

scenic bolt
#

implying those types actually read lore and dont consume it through political commentary channels

sacred ginkgo
#

What ever will we do

scenic bolt
surreal nest
#

i love you guys so much I love my shitting on GW tourist chud convention

#

whenever i feel bad about being surronded by morons in my hobby this channel is my safespace

queen laurel
surreal nest
storm jungle
#

I had a few people thank me here for keeping the place clean of chuds in general which kinda says a lot for most other 40k servers where they just do nothing to contain these issues.

scenic bolt
#

the it's not my problem unless it's illegal school of moderation

storm jungle
#

Pretty much yeah, or like not banning users who are just assholes but tip-toe the rules.

#

It takes awhile here too solely because its an official discord but like still lol

scenic bolt
#

the sm2 discord was pretty bad until they hired a CM

sacred ginkgo
#

I’d imagine

#

Is the Helldivers discord habitable at this point

scenic bolt
#

it's still had its moments

#

you only got to see channel rule pins to know what hell hath wrought

storm jungle
#

I gotta hear this

scenic bolt
#

like there are memes where even posting it is immediate permaban no questions asked because of the history of the meme's use within the server

#

that's permabanable

storm jungle
scenic bolt
#

because it was used for sexual harassment of women

sacred ginkgo
#

Space marine players

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I will never understand

scenic bolt
#

oh that was hd2 mb

sacred ginkgo
#

Oh

scenic bolt
#

no sm2 was the mod team was like

sacred ginkgo
#

Helldivers players

#

I will never understand

scenic bolt
#

their chief mod posted a bit about how if a man wants to mutilate themselves and call them a woman I wont stop them but that wont stop me thinking less of them, this was prerelease

storm jungle
#

russian devs

sacred ginkgo
#

What the actual fuck

#

How were they not fired on the spot

scenic bolt
#

they got a CM like 2 weeks later and the guy stepped back

storm jungle
scenic bolt
#

but was still a mod for a couple months

storm jungle
#

hating queer people is like a past time for them

#

we instantly slam down on that shit in comparison lol

sacred ginkgo
#

hating queer people is like a past time for them
If tavi is a reasonable sample size

surreal nest
#

It's a good and bad quality because now I can't go into general chat and take my rage out at people who call things woke 🙁

#

too peaceful! too agreeable!

scenic bolt
#

that whole affair happened like a month before launch

surreal nest
scenic bolt
#

so it was in the marketing buildup when people started onboarding into the server

storm jungle
#

because they are fucking stupid lol

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
surreal nest
#

Like as a whole fine, I actually enjoy the game. But holy fuck I cannot stand the playerbase 99% of the time

scenic bolt
#

that guy iirc was russian himself too

storm jungle
#

the most overwanked faction in fiction

sacred ginkgo
surreal nest
#

The amount of times I've seen dumbass space marine 2 fans start recounting their meme lore and arguing about how UMM ACTUALLY WORLD EATERS DONT USE GUNS AND AND SALAMANDER SNIPER SKIN IS OUT OF CHARACTER

#

Like no!

#

no buddy!

#

shut the fuck up!

sacred ginkgo
#

Kharn has a plasma pistol

surreal nest
#

LITERALLY

storm jungle
#

THE NEW WORLD EATERS CODEX LITERALLY HAS A WARBAND DEVOTED TO USING RANGED WEAPONRY

#

😭

surreal nest
#

But they fucking think that every fucking faction is just a one note meme

sacred ginkgo
#

It kills people

scenic bolt
#

(or that kyras was a khornate psyker)

surreal nest
#

It genuinely actually pisses me off

sacred ginkgo
#

As long as you aren’t hiding like a bitch while you shoot people Khorne is cool with it

storm jungle
#

yeah melee just gets more glaze for Khorne but largely he doesnt care lol

storm jungle
surreal nest
#

Literally doesn't give a fuck

storm jungle
#

most of these people dont even read any lore

surreal nest
#

It really bothers me that they then try to argue about it

#

it really does

storm jungle
#

if you want proper brain damage go read most 40k youtube sections

surreal nest
#

im not a very well read person but I know my strengths and knowledge and discuss to my limit

storm jungle
#

"astartesastartesastartes"
"titanstitanstitans"
"henrycavillhenrycavillhenrycavill"
"GWBADGWBADGWBAD"

surreal nest
storm jungle
scenic bolt
#

it's like valraks but replacing the childlike glee he puts on for distillate of r/grimdank sweat

surreal nest
#

i watched a beta video way way way back then where a content creator was playing as a sniper black templar and they complained it wasn't lore accurate

#

yeah man you are right black templars never use anything ever

storm jungle
#

Oh god do not get me started

#

theres people that get mad that theres an indian cadian sergeant in the game as a minor character

sacred ginkgo
#

What even are the black Templar “faction tactics”

scenic bolt
#

(and a woman to boot)

surreal nest
queen laurel
#

a khorne daemon auto cannon

sacred ginkgo
scenic bolt
surreal nest
surreal nest
storm jungle
storm jungle
sacred ginkgo
#

I don’t remember what she looked like very well

storm jungle
#

Yep lol

sacred ginkgo
#

I played that game once

storm jungle
#

Down to the exact page number

scenic bolt
#

fandom is bad, it's got almost 0 moderation

surreal nest
#

That is actually so awesome, I'm glad I've been sticking to Lex then

sacred ginkgo
#

Fandom my beloathed

scenic bolt
#

I remember reading one page on fandom about the world eaters when it started mentioning the BACKROOMS OF ALL FUCKING THINGS

surreal nest
#

It's so fun to scroll through lex and just click on random shit and learn fun facts

sacred ginkgo
#

I have a plug-in specifically designed to redirect to real wikis

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

me and my friend Rabs also regularly edit some pages for neat lore bits

scenic bolt
storm jungle
#

like reminding people ogryn slave legions exist

queen laurel
scenic bolt
#

necromunda is where the fun stuff happens

queen laurel
#

Like they know it's a dumb part of lore but they know it's a part of lore so they just word it like this

storm jungle
queen laurel
#

it's contradictory but you can just you know ignore it

storm jungle
#

BASED DAWI STRIKE AGAIN

surreal nest
#

badass

scenic bolt
#

25% success rate on creating ogryn psykers, better than space marine success rates. Back alley Ghast Docs stay winning.

surreal nest
#

ok wait are votann actually the same squat abhumans or just dwarfs by chance

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

id highly suggest reading their lore on lexi

#

its very good

surreal nest
#

so votann xenos but necromunda squats abhuman?

storm jungle
#

Alright so

#

lemme write a bit

queen laurel
#

The ones from the galactic core and are cloned are called kin

scenic bolt
#

votanns also really underdeveloped, cause they got the lore when their codex came out a few years ago, and not a whole tonafterwards

queen laurel
#

Gav strikes again

sacred ginkgo
#

Don’t they have like

#

1

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
#

Is it good

queen laurel
#

you tell me

queen laurel
#

it was not good

shadow plover
#

I'm probably 75% through it now and it hasn't been terrible

storm jungle
# surreal nest so votann xenos but necromunda squats abhuman?
    1. For marketing reasons the entire race of the squats have been dubbed as the Leagues of Votann (after the big AI coreframes that build/help their civilization) with the League part being the commercial megacorp-esque conclaves and nations in space they run which is actually a thing from old lore. The Votann refere to themselves generally as The Kin. The term "squat" is still a thing but its treated more as an insult/slur by humans to them.
    1. So basically the old squat lore is still somewhat canon just largely edited to make sense with the current 40k setting, so its why they got an aesthetic overhaul among other things as well as some bigger lore changes. They still have the thing of being original human colonists who settled in the galactic core that just kinda became dwarves but now they are so seperate from humanity + have become a clone race from the Ancestor Cores that create them, they still got a ton of individuality among other things but thats a topic you should read on your own.
    1. The lore of the Nids also eating a great majority of their homeworlds in the core is also still there, it was just chalked up to poor imperial record keeping regarding what actually happened to them, they are still a proper galactic power to some extent but stick to their own devices, they are more numerous than Tau/Eldar but are below humanity in numbers
    1. They are technically considered "xenos" due to being extremely seperated from humanity + a great majority of the Imperium also doesnt know their true origin but will hire them as mercs and other commerce related stuff, but obviously it changes from League to League on the matters of operation.
    1. The Necromunda Votann are called "squats" by most people but they've adopted the name to some extent as well. They lost their Votann Core (the big AI ancestor box that micro-manages an entire League) during their first settlement into Munda so have devolved to reproducing the old fashioned way and founding an entire monopoly on their own behalf as dawi due, becoming a proper civilization on the planet that a lot of the Imperial hives/people rely on for prospecting and other big money grindsets
#

Their lore is legit great but can seem very confusing until you actually read it, trust me I went through it when I wanted to homebrew my own League, its much more sensible when you do it lol

queen laurel
#

@surreal nest if you're wondering what an ancestor core is

surreal nest
#

I really like it just from that very well written summary

#

Thank you!!

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

No worries, they are badass as fuck

surreal nest
#

My friend loves his Votann so much and I can't wait to now shit on his lore beasts with my Tsons

queen laurel
surreal nest
#

i am so excited for the chaos dwarf launch

#

someone fr gotta hold me back

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

I was not the biggest fan of them at launch but theyve really grown on me

shadow plover
#

I am MIFFED that the new Votann release didn't get a box set

surreal nest
#

I am very much a dwarf enjoyer, would love to get their killteams

sacred ginkgo
surreal nest
shadow plover
#

The Combat Patrol is fine but I've got all the models from it already waiting

#

I wanted the new models

scenic bolt
#

I just remember when their army was just coming out the pre-release form was so obviously broken they were pre-emptively banned from most major tournaments

surreal nest
#

jerk you better paint this and send it to this discord

shadow plover
#

One day I will

scenic bolt
#

so GW had to nerf the votann before their actual launch

storm jungle
#

THE THRICE-DEVOURED

shadow plover
#

but that's like a year from now probably

#

The triple vored

surreal nest
#

That's actually really weird that the Votann didnt get a battle box?

queen laurel
#

i can be happy about that

surreal nest
#

I genuinely cant believe that Tsons got robots and that was it

shadow plover
#

that lone standing eldar sticks out like a sore thumb from that picture collage lmao

sacred ginkgo
storm jungle
sacred ginkgo
#

Tiny little child arm clutching the greatsword

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

Lewis Jones man, hes great

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

they legit look like a horde of monsters

queen laurel
#

i'm also too lazy to bother finding a picture

surreal nest
#

I just hung this one up on my wall

storm jungle
#

Based as hell

storm jungle
#

thats also Jones

storm jungle
sacred ginkgo
#

“Humans can’t use full size bolters they would die”

storm jungle
sacred ginkgo
#

I know

#

I have it downloaded

storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

damn 😩

surreal nest
#

I can't wait to grow my wall of filth

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
#

Also just a gif of a dude mag dumping a Barrett because the recoil is comperable

storm jungle
queen laurel
#

jk

surreal nest
#

that space marine poster is holographic!

#

also i accidentally spilled a gallon of orange fanta on my skaventide poster 🙁

scenic bolt
#

are those halo flashpoint minis

surreal nest
#

my painting pile is genuinely weird

#

i got historical minis, terminators, chaos, skaven, guardmen, and Tau

#

and halo

sacred ginkgo
#

Not really weird, just a painter pile over an army builder pile

surreal nest
#

i am in fact an army builder

#

i just get so bored

surreal nest
scenic bolt
#

no I've only looked at it but my local group is pretty soundly 40k/aos players

#

tried shopping them on other game systems/settings but nada

surreal nest
#

Dang man that sucks. I'm in the same boat, but I have very curious friends who I have introduced a disgusting amount of wargames too

#

I really wish I had an actual scene for Halo near me. The game is super tight

#

I'm trying to get involved with more Tabletop Simulator war games, it's so interesting

scenic bolt
#

yea Ive used TTS a lot, more for other game aside from 40k/wfb/aos since thats more readily available in person

surreal nest
#

It is such an under appreciated piece of technology

plush mason
celest dome
queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Looks like some sort of infected/corrupted creature

celest dome
#

Fox or squirrel tail ?

rocky gale
#

More Kurnothi but with barkskin?

celest dome
#

Doesn't look horse like though

rocky gale
#

Leg matches

#

Could be wolf

queen laurel
#

unless it's another faction that use a wolf

celest dome
#

I'm staying on Fox or Squirrel, either as Sprites for Wood Elf/Sylvaneth or for some Bloodbowl Halfling

rocky gale
#

Leg doesn't match for Squirrel and don't think the tail matches for fox

#

Fox tails are basically cylinders

valid needle
#

One tactic is full on orbital bombardment closely followed by drop pod and thunder hawk assault. Another major one when the terrain is allowing of it is full armoured assault.

summer mural
#

Imagine dt zealots but just MORE

#

And also if they were space marines

queen laurel
summer mural
#

Not true

#

All of them are psychotic cultists

queen laurel
valid needle
#

Also yes that’s meme lore

summer mural
#

The best kind. thumbsup_ogryn

queen laurel
valid needle
#

I can grab you a pic out of our codex which states our main tactics if you like

queen laurel
summer mural
#

Just send me the best sigismund pic you got

valid needle
#

We are heavily melee focused chapter based on honour and face to face combat but BT employ and use every type of soldier and tactic needed to win a battle.

terse kestrel
# surreal nest yesm

Halo Flashpoint seems pretty cool, but I dont know how you'd get games, you already have to travel an hour oone way for warhammer games in canada

valid needle
#

Gimme a min

gaunt lily
#

since we're posting 40k artworks I like how this one draws the landing craft uwugryn

valid needle
#

@queen laurel

gaunt lily
#

a picture tells 1000 words, quite literally KEKW_ogryn

valid needle
#

So yeah, whilst melee and honour duels are a big part of BT. They do employ many other tactics including drop pod and thunderhawk shock assaults and full armour mobilisations.

#

And snipers

gaunt lily
#

Drop pod assaults but Deathstorms were retired into legends Sitgryn

#

since they went to the effort to make a new drop pod model for 40k it wouldve been nice if theyd made it a dual purpose model

storm jungle
#

like they are basically psychos that sometimes have some resemblence of order, Warzone Armageddon has a great bit where Helbrech just goes nuts and decides to kill innocent/guilty in a firestorm during a war in the hive at one point, its great

summer mural
#

I like helbrechts aesthetic ngl

#

He looks like the Zealot

storm jungle
#

Yeah their modern design is great, there was a recent post from like 2 weeks ago that touches on it iirc, hold on

languid meadow
#

I'm gonna explode

#

ODST in helldivers is real

summer mural
#

Wot

#

Like..

#

The Nathan Fillion odsts?

languid meadow
#

yes

summer mural
languid meadow
#

1:13

summer mural
#

Lmaoo

languid meadow
#

also there's a mysterious sound that is Vergils ping but reversed

summer mural
#

Odsts are great and all, but why did they do this

#

Seems kinda random for hd

languid meadow
#

Xbox is getting helldivers

summer mural
#

Oh

#

Ofc

languid meadow
#

which is kind of a big deal since it was a Sony exclusive

storm jungle
#

ODST also constantly gets referenced by the fandom since Shitdivers do their gimmick, its a no-brainer

languid meadow
#

Arrowhead set limits on collabs and ODSTs were in that limit

summer mural
#

Yeah Sony practically slapped their name across the game every chance they got

storm jungle
#

I love the unique way the Chapter is organised and their special units such as Crusader squads, Sword Brethren, and the Emperor’s Champion. Villains (which, let’s face it, they definitely are) who think they’re heroes are always interesting to me, and the Templars’ self-righteous brutality was quite appealing in this sense – they are ruthless, single-minded, mean… and among the most epic protagonists of the Warhammer 40,000 setting!

#

Calling them villains is very funny

#

I hope no one got upset by this

#

cough

summer mural
#

I'm enraged

languid meadow
#

woke creator.......

storm jungle
#

LMFAO

languid meadow
#

my only grip with the collab is that it introduced people to halo (idk how they didn't know beforehand) and they have such shit takes on the covenant

storm jungle
#

I mean no shit, its the Helldivers fandom

#

its nothing but braindead takes