#40k-lore-chat

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spare osprey
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the bombs fall anyways he'll have plenty of fun then

crystal forum
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it's literally the one game where the main character absolutely could have avoided the situation

opaque coyote
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If I remember correctly.

Her old weakness was being tied up by a man, voluntarily, with her own lasso.

paper haven
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He's gonna have a very difficult life

opaque coyote
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Something something "If you give the Patriarchy the power, they will abuse it"

crystal forum
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and there's 3 bottles of medicine in the entire country

dapper gyro
celest dome
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Join the Police 💀

dapper gyro
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
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Although tbf Wonder Woman had the same role as Superman so she wasn't really meant to be that complicated

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Just a way to get more feminists

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And also probably awaken something in many peo-

paper haven
dapper gyro
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Brother, FC3 Jason kills almost all non american/white people.

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It is an auto pass for ICE selection.

young pecan
crystal forum
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the game not even punishing you for killing people on your side

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peak far cry

paper haven
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Yeah but his willingness to fight things that can fight back will mean he will get bored rather quickly

young pecan
crystal forum
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jason is pretty clearly mentally broken by the end

opaque coyote
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Considering that America literally gets nuked in Far cry 5.

Probably having PTSD flashbacks to the island

paper haven
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You know how Vaas is in that dlc?

crystal forum
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because 6 had to come out

paper haven
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That's Jason

crystal forum
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and then everybody forgot 6

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also primal

opaque coyote
paper haven
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Which one was 6 again?

opaque coyote
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CALL OF DUTY

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DO YOU FUCKING HEAR ME

crystal forum
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post apocalypse

paper haven
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Even now, somehow

young pecan
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All I know is in 4 there's a dictator who's sort of not a dictator and the entire game's events could have been avoided and had a peaceful ending by just staying put like you were told to at the start

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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wait no im thinking of new dawn

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the completely forgotten game

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6 is the one with giancarlo

spare osprey
crystal forum
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playing gus as usual

paper haven
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This is fine

opaque coyote
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But even then he's also a cutthroat businessman

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But a different type from Gus

spare osprey
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he's done other stuff, it's honestly just him getting type casted since

opaque coyote
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Less Lex Luthor

More...

Elon Musk

crystal forum
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i hope the far cry is in like siberia or some shit

paper haven
crystal forum
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midwest US was extremely boring

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cuba was meh

opaque coyote
paper haven
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Back to Africa

opaque coyote
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He is a huge asshole

paper haven
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The promised land

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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far cry 2

storm jungle
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shut up

spare osprey
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peak peak

crystal forum
spare osprey
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ONLY YOUUUU

storm jungle
crystal forum
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boring scenery

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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what else can you ask for

opaque coyote
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"KEEP YOUR RIFLE BY YOUR SIDE"

storm jungle
spare osprey
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the music BANGED

storm jungle
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aka be stuck in your head

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and indoctrinate you

crystal forum
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i can murder americans in real life dilara

storm jungle
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its great

dapper gyro
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But bad americans win... therefore it is a bad game.

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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i want my game to let me murder more diverse people

spare osprey
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i straight up have like 3 of them in my playlist

opaque coyote
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Such as

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White man

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White woman

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...

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Uh

spare osprey
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and also own a bear

opaque coyote
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Bear

paper haven
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I'm sure there are other races present

paper haven
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And they are equally killable

opaque coyote
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But also much more entertaining in interaction

spare osprey
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yknow i haven't touched far cry 6 but from afar

crystal forum
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"i'm not bigoted, i kill all people equally"
-postal dude

paper haven
opaque coyote
spare osprey
crystal forum
spare osprey
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plot wise that is

opaque coyote
paper haven
crystal forum
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4 started the just cause trend

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the wingsuit in 3 didnt help

paper haven
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Wingsuits are death traps

crystal forum
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wdym it's a primary form of transportation according to just cause

celest dome
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I quite liked the Far Cry in America+Post Apocalypse sequel

paper haven
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Because of all the neon paint?

crystal forum
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see this is because you're european

dapper gyro
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The best Far Cry is Blood Dragon.

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Anyone says otherwise are heretic.

celest dome
crystal forum
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we get to see post apocalypse america in real life

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it gets boring

celest dome
spare osprey
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how bout we talk about the REAL best far cry villain

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best written character in fiction

crystal forum
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first primal mention on the internet in 5 years

paper haven
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Never played that one

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Ignored

celest dome
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Honestly a Far Cry set in Russia could work, or in the Balkan KEKW_ogryn

spare osprey
paper haven
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Far Cry: Ukraine

spare osprey
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and i had to drop it lmao

crystal forum
storm jungle
crystal forum
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far cry is not known to play it safe with the setting

storm jungle
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what other regional dictatorship state is there left?

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We did pirate islands

dapper gyro
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Drone strike every 5 minutes.

storm jungle
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We did himalayan rebel territory

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We did pre-revolution cuban state

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We did africa

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We did rural america

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theres literally only post-soviet state left as a choice lol

young pecan
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Only rural is a dictatorship?

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Could've fooled me

paper haven
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My favorite level is the one where you have to huddle in an improvised dugout during a 12 hour artillery barrage

storm jungle
dapper gyro
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There is even a Far Cry DLC for Vietnam...

spare osprey
crystal forum
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far cry 1 is basically vietnam

spare osprey
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we need to go where no far cry game has gone before

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Dallas

languid meadow
dapper gyro
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What is that shit stain?

celest dome
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Though some of the themes have already covered

paper haven
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North Korea

languid meadow
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lmfao

crystal forum
paper haven
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Fuck

languid meadow
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Burma farcry

dapper gyro
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Far Cry x AssCreed

crystal forum
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pakistan far cry

arctic talon
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Does north korea count as post soviet lol

celest dome
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Far Cry Birghimahm

paper haven
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India/Pakistan

crystal forum
dapper gyro
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Hold on, AssCreed and Far Cry shares the same universe, no?

crystal forum
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no they dont

paper haven
celest dome
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Are they even the same company ?

spare osprey
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all video games ever share a universe, industry secret

crystal forum
paper haven
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Ubisoft makes both

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Oh how the mighty have fallen

dapper gyro
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Ubisoft Montreal, too...

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So sad...

paper haven
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Far Cry: Three Kingdoms

crystal forum
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we're going back in time now

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far cry: soviet revolution

paper haven
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Primal did it first

dapper gyro
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Further Cry

crystal forum
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far cry: afghanistan (soviet)

celest dome
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Far Cry but set in the Ottoman Conquest of the Balkan (honestly an Assassin Creed game set in it could be cool, even have some Dracula stuff)

dapper gyro
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Far Crier

paper haven
crystal forum
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far cry: afghanistan (american)

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a whole series on afghanistan

paper haven
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It's all extremely similar

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We're falling into a formula again

crystal forum
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i would play a far cry in east asia

dapper gyro
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Blood Dragon is so dumb yet so good.

storm jungle
dapper gyro
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Retro futuristic banger

paper haven
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Isn't far cry 4 in East Asia?

storm jungle
crystal forum
celest dome
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Far Cry 40k, you play as a normal dude who got infected by the GSC kiss KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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Kyrat is like a small micro-nation in it

paper haven
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Rip

crystal forum
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it could take place in asian plains instead

paper haven
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Far Cry: GSC

crystal forum
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the villain is vaas with a wig and augment eye

paper haven
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You think it's a far cry game but halfway through it turns into Space Marine 3

dapper gyro
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See, if any girl or guy tries to kiss me, I automatically assume that they are a gene steeler.

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Nothing is too safe.

crystal forum
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because you never get kissed?

paper haven
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Can't be too careful

crystal forum
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jeans eater sound pretty hot ngl

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look at that tongue

paper haven
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Like that jeans commercial?

crystal forum
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no, gene steeler

paper haven
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Ohh

young pecan
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Read jeans and reminded me of that awful Sydney Sweeney ad

crystal forum
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full name eugene

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last name steeler

paper haven
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That's the name of it

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She made a pun or something right? People got mad.

nocturne crest
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Silly question, but is the eye slit on dreadnoughts just glass or is it something else?

paper haven
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You can shoot through it

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All I know

dapper gyro
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Yes, it can be stabbed as well.

paper haven
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According to the Raptor animation they literally are just two pieces of glass

dapper gyro
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Which one?

crystal forum
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the dread still feels like they're using their own body

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so they're not looking out of an eyeslit

young pecan
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Are the cameras particularly hard to break?

crystal forum
young pecan
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I feel like cameras are pretty sensitive to breaking

crystal forum
celest dome
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No less than eyes

paper haven
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I've also seen it just be a little slit in the metal and the marine inside looks through it

late verge
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random hc: chainswords were actually industrial tools during the DAoT that the imperium just happened to find very useful for tearing people apart and were thus retrofitted them into weapons

crystal forum
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being a dread is not pleasant

late verge
crystal forum
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it's a tabletop thing for nerds

paper haven
spare osprey
paper haven
spare osprey
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armoring of an UM

late verge
dapper gyro
spare osprey
late verge
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as opposed to some earlier stuff that basically had them looking through a fucking slit in the armor 😭

crystal forum
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i know for a fact that dreadnoughts feel the machine as if it's their body

spare osprey
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like look at say

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a contemptor

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dude's a bit below the head

paper haven
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I've seen dreadnoughts be fully sealed in their sarcophagus, and can only see when hooked up to the chassis through cameras

dapper gyro
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I remember some lore about them got stab in the window and dies...

paper haven
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And also ones where his head is just sticking out the top

crystal forum
dapper gyro
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But not all dread model are the same.

crystal forum
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they dont have a visible sarcophagus like 40k box dreads and primaris ones do

dapper gyro
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The custode dread... good luck.

paper haven
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In the blood ravens animation, it's a slit he looks through

spare osprey
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but yeah nothing about marines make sense

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tank size

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HH dread size

paper haven
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What am I looking at here?

crystal forum
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he killed a thing

spare osprey
paper haven
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Is that- ok yeah

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Huh

crystal forum
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OH

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the angle is just fucked

paper haven
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There it is

spare osprey
dapper gyro
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This guy would definitely get stab.

paper haven
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Look at the little slit

spare osprey
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if you notice most of his head is a skull

paper haven
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He's got a window

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He can see all of like 30 degrees

crystal forum
# spare osprey

and this was supposed to be a higher tech than 40k dreads lol

spare osprey
crystal forum
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i wonder what the saturnine lore will be

paper haven
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Modern tanks have camera sights and back up view ports maybe dreadnaughts use something similar?

crystal forum
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probably wont get much lore like the deredeo did

spare osprey
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like if a levi drives you insane

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i'm amazed these things can even shoot weapons

dapper gyro
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How about open face dreadnought?

crystal forum
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insanity

spare osprey
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wulfen specific

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and technically IH

crystal forum
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i really dont like box dreads'

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i like how more mobile the primaris ones look

storm jungle
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Bad take

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next

celest dome
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The boxy ones are cute

crystal forum
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i dont like my death machine being cute

dapper gyro
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You are cute

crystal forum
storm jungle
crystal forum
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you can tell by the smell of mayo fries and chocolate

spare osprey
dapper gyro
vagrant fox
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I am uwugryn

crystal forum
nocturne crest
young pecan
crystal forum
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for my HH army

young pecan
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Do it

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And post results

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:^)

crystal forum
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ah damn i thought i had already made a IH logo

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my terminal lumbago is acting up (laziness)

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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moules frites remain superior

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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mussels and fries

opaque coyote
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Never tried it

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Doesn't look bad though

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Unnatural combo to my American (tm) senses tho

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If I ever go to France, maybe I will try

winter pine
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me and the other slaves to darkness when Abaddon rips the False Emperor off his golden throne (we're cheering and having a great time)

sour hornet
nocturne crest
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So odd question, but would anyone be for or against more T'au empire having more splinter factions, like the farsight enclaves?

arctic talon
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Imo there’s 0 need for it

winged jacinth
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they dont get enough attention to sustain more than one splinter

vagrant fox
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More splinter factions would be nice but it's not necessary at all

winged jacinth
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tau content cant afford to be spread any thinner imo lol

vagrant fox
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tau are wack anyways rip bozos

crystal forum
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just rewatched alien covenant

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man romulus is really the only good alien movie of the 21st century

opaque coyote
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Smh

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You got Imperial Knight sized aliens and you don't slap on a railgun and armor?

winged jacinth
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yeah they've got way more now and we still know like nothing about any of them besides the kroot

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like the vespids still dont have much lore afaik lol

opaque coyote
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Giant ass sword

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Railgun on shoulder

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Fighting Imperial Knights

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Do you know how fucking awesome that would be

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Pacific Rim type shit

winged jacinth
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do we know they dont

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lexicanum cites the codex as them fighting superheavy combat walkers

opaque coyote
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True

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We need them as models bro

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Do you know how sick that would be

arctic talon
opaque coyote
arctic talon
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But it’s all basic

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Vespids are simplistic

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So they don’t really know more

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They’re a hivemind(like an irl one) with Queens of the hives

winged jacinth
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the demiurg just being squats keeping a low profile was a nice timesave for them

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and it makes total sense its lore im happy with

arctic talon
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Yeah

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I think my main issue with Tau auxiliary lore is

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I’m just more interested in the Tau(race)

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Lmao

opaque coyote
winged jacinth
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theres so many auxillaries they probably wont get to any of them now lol

arctic talon
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The Kroot are the only one that have really catches my interest

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Elemental council shows it

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There’s a good bit of meat to tau lore

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It’s just all quite dry

opaque coyote
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Juicy juicy Xeno meat

opaque coyote
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Thick

arctic talon
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Tau have prolly the most developed knowledge of their society

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In terms of xenos

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Imo

winged jacinth
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the tau could do with attention, they're ripe for good novels, but i think tau novels might feel kinda un-40k-ey

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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Nah

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Elemental council is super 40ky lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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And it’s a tau book

winged jacinth
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a tau novel would almost feel more like star trek but beset by evil

tough haven
arctic talon
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You have an air caste pilot doing a kamikaze

winged jacinth
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i need to read elemental council

opaque coyote
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Same

winged jacinth
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i played tau many years ago when i played miniatures at all

opaque coyote
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Or some mundane part of their society

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A cop working with a Gue'vesa partner

winged jacinth
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we dont get that enough for 40k in general

vagrant fox
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Deathwatch, the novel, was pretty 40key despite the Tau featuring a lot. Man they were assholes in their own way too

arctic talon
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Elemental council is genuinely so insanely good lol

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Same with Peter’s dark coil stuff

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The Greater Evil is good

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As is the deathwatch and water caste one

winged jacinth
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the novels people love are disproportionately set behind the front lines

arctic talon
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I forgot the name of

opaque coyote
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They win and take over

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...

arctic talon
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They usually just demolish the hives

opaque coyote
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What the fuck do they do with it

arctic talon
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And relocate the population

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Btw

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We have an answer

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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but no one reads tau lore

arctic talon
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They don’t care where they send them

winged jacinth
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yeah like legit what do you do with a hive lol you cant fix it

vagrant fox
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what a waste of a perfectly shitty hive

arctic talon
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They just send them to the ass end of nowhere

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lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Oh

opaque coyote
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Or enough people

arctic talon
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They don’t get them all

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lol

opaque coyote
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Ah

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The good old

arctic talon
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They just issue a general evacuation order

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And state they’re blowing up the hive

opaque coyote
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"Get the fuck out, we're nuking your house"

arctic talon
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If you don’t leave by the deadline

winged jacinth
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the tau arent like, saints lol

arctic talon
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They gave you the chance to leave

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Now get bulldozed nerd

winged jacinth
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they're just nice relative to the setting

opaque coyote
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Like beyond just it being kinda shit to live in

winged jacinth
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hotbed of disorder, unfamiliar territory full of new potentially rebellious subjects, and yeah literally falling apart

opaque coyote
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Well kinda is a understatement

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But like wouldn't you want to at least get some of the recent paperwork

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At least

winged jacinth
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tau tech is good enough they probably dont get much use out of the manufactories or the cogitator banks

opaque coyote
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Or ransack the noble area

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Or just their storage of resources. Like Lasguns

winged jacinth
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yeah they probably grab important stuff but they dont occupy the hive

opaque coyote
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Announce the general evacuation

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Since you still need to go around and say

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"GET OUT OR MOVE"

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And then maybe there would be conflict like

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Gangers shooting at these evacuation announcements

winged jacinth
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tau having real computers helps out with a lot of that

arctic talon
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Tau build shit fast

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To redevelop the world

arctic talon
winged jacinth
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yeah the imperial infrastructure really isnt very useful to the tau

arctic talon
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The tau are like a proper sci fi empire for city building

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Everything is prefabs

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The one big thing the tau keep from hives

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Is usually the power sources

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Which are far better then the usual Tau generators

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Aside from that the rest gets scrapped and destroyed

winged jacinth
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yeah those are usually archaeotech cool stuff

arctic talon
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But they break everything down for resources

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They can

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And then prefabs

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In any case the Tau are experts on cultural genocide lol

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They’ve optimized the shit out of it

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Like any good imperialist empire

winged jacinth
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are they still doing the pheromone slavery stuff that had been hinted at i always thought that was kinda lame

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i think making them grimdark through thoroughness of assimilation is a cool way to go

arctic talon
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Because the dude making the original entries was a necron lord

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Fucking with the imperium

winged jacinth
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good lol

arctic talon
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But the tau just do good ol fashioned propaganda

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By god it’s a lot of propaganda

winged jacinth
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i like the tau's grimdarkness being an open part of them instead of a dark secret

arctic talon
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There’s a water caste character

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In I forgot which book

winged jacinth
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they really did kinda take the people calling them space communists and go "alright the height of Stalin's reign in the USSR there you go" huh

arctic talon
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And she’s super proud about all the propaganda material that her home sept produces lol

winged jacinth
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i need to catch up on the tau lore

arctic talon
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They have FTL now finally

winged jacinth
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right now im pirating the merck index which is 250 mb

vagrant fox
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Isn't there one tau that gets told to off themselves and they do it before they really realize what they're doing

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by some ethereal or whatever

arctic talon
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Yeah

winged jacinth
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they started using the drives that tore the nexus the way the guy who made them told them to? lol

vagrant fox
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It makes me wonder if it's heavy indoctrination or subtle mindfuckery

arctic talon
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There’s also a very young ethereal who questions the entire caste system

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And he gets told to shut up by his mentor

winged jacinth
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"please dont use too many at once"
"ok so we're gonna send the whole fleet at once"

arctic talon
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And to stop that line of thought

arctic talon
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But you can see how they drill in

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Everyone is afraid of stepping out of line beyond just drinking the kool-aid

vagrant fox
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I should get around to reading it more in depth, but I'm lazy

arctic talon
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The only time Tau start really opposing the usual cultural norms and the greater good being enforced is in war often

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Stress and anger causes them to lose that fear

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Castes being forced to interact regularly makes them ask more questions about their society and system

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Ect.

winged jacinth
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thats part of why they have one splinter faction i think, its mostly a binary of following the status quo or not without finer detail

arctic talon
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Yeah, Farsight ironically only opposes some of the greater good dogma and the restriction of caste roles

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Aside from that he’s uh, pretty much just tau empire 2

young pecan
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Would it be accurate to say that the lows of the Imperium are lower than the lows of the T'au, but the achievable highs are higher than the T'au?

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On an individual level depending on their status at the very least I feel like that's true

crystal forum
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you cant really achieve that high as a pleb in the imperium

winged jacinth
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if you're one of very very very few highly privledged in the imperium you enjoy all the fruits of a galaxy worth of slave labor

crystal forum
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what's the difference between being born an ethereal and being born a rich noble

celest willow
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What does “suffer not the mutant” mean

crystal forum
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as in, kill all mutants

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suffer as in suffering from their presence

celest willow
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I thought suffer not was like it should be mercy killing them due to their suffering

crystal forum
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oh no no no

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you're supposed to actively hate the mutant

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and not have mercy

winged jacinth
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its a ye olde phrasing

celest willow
young pecan
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I mean more as in high ranking officials like inquisitors

celest willow
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So ig it is context based or something

young pecan
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Being a pleb is part of the "lower lows" of the Imperium that I said

winged jacinth
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nah its a general commandment against the existence of mutants (unless they're useful like with witches)

crystal forum
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and abhumans

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but even then the imperium wants you to hate them all

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ogryns and psykers

celest willow
arctic talon
celest willow
young pecan
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Kill a mutant
Dropkick a mutant baby
Incinerate a mutant
Steal a mutant's food

arctic talon
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It means kill all mutants

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Basically

crystal forum
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oh hey apparently it comes from the bible

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Exodus 22:18
King James Version
18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

winged jacinth
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yeah i thought it was biblical

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thats a king james era phrasing

celest willow
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But ye I get it now

arctic talon
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Yeah the mutants in Darktide are uh

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Artificially induced

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By the green goo

celest willow
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Tbh they don’t really look uh healthy

winged jacinth
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thats nurgle for ya!

celest willow
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Nah man nurgle is cool ignore the loyalist scum and their heretical “hygiene”

crystal forum
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what is hard to understand here

celest willow
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You funny silly man

crystal forum
celest willow
winged jacinth
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it basically means dont indulge them in the luxury of existing

celest willow
crystal forum
celest willow
winged jacinth
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its very archaic but to suffer someone is basically like
"ill suffer your antics" "i'll put up with your antics" its tolerating something distateful

crystal forum
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you're straight up making shit up

celest willow
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Go google bare

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Maybe am spelling it wrong but bare means tolerate

winged jacinth
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bear

crystal forum
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do you mean bearing???

winged jacinth
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synonymous with carry (typically implying some kind of weight to the thing being carried)

celest willow
young pecan
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It's bear but yes it is synonymous

winged jacinth
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it might be like, metaphorical weight though

celest willow
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Welp imma sleep now it is 5 AM and am going insane

crystal forum
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you still can't use bear in the same context as suffer here

arctic talon
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Go bed

celest willow
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Peace and thank you internet people

winged jacinth
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yeah its just grammatically incorrect

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the sentiment isnt wrong

young pecan
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It's usable but a little off

winged jacinth
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dont put up with em! (unless they're useful and breed true then they're actually abhumans not mutants)

crystal forum
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burn the heretics

winged jacinth
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(unless you're a radical hereticus inquisitor)

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that one doesnt get the same carveouts as mutant and witch lol

crystal forum
winged jacinth
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honestly the single biggest threat to an inquisitors life is probably other inquisitors

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not like a majority but the biggest slice of the pie

crystal forum
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just stay loyalist

winged jacinth
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then you get killed by either the heretic inquisitors or other loyalists who are convinced you've failed the purity test

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it seems like being a largely unaccountable agent of god seems to go to their heads

crystal forum
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they're not stupid

winged jacinth
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nah you always clash and thats what the book is about KEKW_ogryn

crystal forum
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that's just eisenhorn

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always finding himself in the biggest evil plot of the century

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by accident

winged jacinth
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i was gonna say they probably get assassinated a lot but that would just set off a big investigation

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so the biggest risk might actually be their field

crystal forum
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seems fun though

young pecan
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Osma making it his life mission to game end Eisenhorn, even after failing the first time

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What, decades prior?

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Assassinate the Lord Inquisitor or whatever that seat is just to kill Eisenhorn

paper haven
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Eisenhorn just keeps finding universe ending evil plots

sacred bluff
#

do custodian dreadnoughts not get tired like space marine ones

arctic talon
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They do

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just less

opaque coyote
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Because although it's mostly Custodes who have been

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Majorly damaged to near death

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There are some who are like

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"MY REACTION SPEED IS 0.001 ms SLOWER. PUT ME IN THE DREADNOUGHT NOW."

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"Dude you aren't even 500 years ol-"

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"DREADNOUGHT."

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So at least one of them are probably some guy who got a paper cut and decided

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"it's dreadnought time"

median star
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i talked to eternal about it earlier in regards to the clans of the iron hands instead of having companies each clan has their own dedicated like everything so this means terminators arent limited soley to first company for them (clan avernii) are their any other chapters that also have this dynamic of allowing terminators to others besides first company

opaque coyote
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Apparently the Leagues of Votann have a fucking

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Bolt Shotgun

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How the fuck does that even work

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And more importantly, when can we use one

dapper gyro
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Probably works like the Executioner Shotgun of the Arbites.

tough haven
lofty mason
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How strong and efficient is the industrial base of the Imperium? The Galactic Empire has Kuat Drive yards which is basically their main place that churns out massive numbers of ships.

arctic talon
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Kuat in terms of scale

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is nothing unusual for the major forgeworlds

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every major forgeworld has an orbital shipyard

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Every major naval base also has massive shipyards

opaque coyote
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Fucking enormous even

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Efficient?

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Uhhhhhhhh-

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Efficient enough to keep the Imperium alive

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But you're probably gonna have some late shipments

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Or maybe some really early ones, in fact, maybe they'll appear before you even ordered them

arctic talon
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Skill issue

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jokes aside 40k's industrial output is comically high

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due to how forgeworlds work

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Its an entire world, billions to trillions of people

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all making shit

opaque coyote
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It is fucking enormous

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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well

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again

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they can invent new shit

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its just a religous clusterfuck

opaque coyote
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"Hey guys, look I invented a new patter-"

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"YOU SHOULD SERVITORIZE YOURSELF NOW"

opaque coyote
sharp pollen
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if it has a name - very strong

lofty mason
arctic talon
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anyways point being Kuat is just 2 orbital rings

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*rings

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they can pump out a bunch of hsit

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they also have Rothana

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iirc no?

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but star wars has this weird thing

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where they pigeonhole for production

opaque coyote
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The humble forge world:

storm jungle
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Well that also depends

arctic talon
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star wars's major shipyards are like

storm jungle
#

contrary to popular belief the Imperium can and will stop sending men to warzones if it bears no fruit lol

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and relegate it to like a slow crawl of reinforcements (sometimes taking decades or a century)

lofty mason
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It's also funny that they might produce the same exact things from like 5,000 years ago. (yeah, Warhammer is really bad at the scale of time).

arctic talon
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Kuat, Corelia, Fondor and Mon Calamari

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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STOP SAYING KUAT

arctic talon
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no

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fuck you

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Kuat

opaque coyote
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"Hey we haven't clogged the meat grinder."

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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"Maybe we should stop?"

storm jungle
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Its not really clogging

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its more the Administratum seeing the warzone not worth the effort

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which is like, yeah fair lol

opaque coyote
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Yeah I know that the Imperium is

Still an empire that requires management

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Contrary to popular belief

opaque coyote
lofty mason
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How much does a Lasgun costs? Did GW every mention it anywhere? I reckon that since IoM mass-producing them on a scale beyond human comprehension a single Lasgun probably costs like $10 KEKW_ogryn

opaque coyote
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I can imagine like soldiers being sent even after orders to retreat have been rewritten

opaque coyote
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Because it's underneath a pile of other mundane requests

storm jungle
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like

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theres no definitive answer to these general questions

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everything in 40k is different and dependant lol

opaque coyote
lofty mason
storm jungle
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lasguns are just sci-fi AK-47's

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theres cheap variants, theres mediate variants and theres expensive variants

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it all varies

lofty mason
opaque coyote
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Often criticized for being too small for a galactic empire

queen laurel
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they do not go down the specifics of this shit

lofty mason
opaque coyote
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Another example is the Flash apparently thinking as fast as an attosecond.

And yet despite that speed, he definitely isn't that quick of a thinker at times

lofty mason
opaque coyote
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Well

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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It depends (tm)

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I think there's an option to get an Ogryn scribe backstory in darktide

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Who copies down stuff accurately despite not knowing how to read

opaque coyote
median star
lament shoal
storm jungle
normal light
plush mason
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the lasgun is the standard weapon of the guard because it is easy to make and ship

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just about any world with a decent level of industrial development can make them and the charge packs are vastly easier to store and transfer than bullets

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the imperium's manufacturing is also fueled by a chattel slavery system so even if the workers are paid they are paid a slave wage in ether local currency or full on company town style manufactorim credits that are only accepted at the stores in the manufactorim they are paid out from

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tldr everything made in the imperium is technically worthless as it has no monetary value outside the planet it was made

arctic talon
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paying your menials

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Looks like someone’s not slave pilled enough

plush mason
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i never said they where paid well

opaque coyote
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Train people since it literally shoots a laser

plush mason
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yeah

opaque coyote
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And finally, the ammo is easily renewable.

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Putting a Lasgun mag(?) on a fireplace can recharge it (TOP 10 TRICKS YOU DON'T KNOW - WatchMojo.com)

plush mason
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dont let the engiseer see you do that

opaque coyote
plush mason
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yeah but it does damage the pack iirc, lowers the charge life time

opaque coyote
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So you're probably only doing it if you're like

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Deserted or something

plush mason
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cut off and got no other option yeah

opaque coyote
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The only flaw is that you probably want something more powerful if you're up against like

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Idk

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Tyranids

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Orks

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Daemons

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Unless again, group, in which case they'll die by a million laser beams

plush mason
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yeah, lasguns are very good small arms, they are still small arms and you will need something a lot beefer to deal with bigger threats

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ngl the guard would be beyond hell to fight, master of static warfare their bases are literal death traps surrounded by flat open ground with no cover to speak of

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and each soldier is armed with a fast firing semi auto battle rifle that has 0 recoil and like 100+ rounds

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and there is like 30k of them just in the front trench alone

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it makes me wonder what the rumored TW40k game will be like ngl

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the guard would just be total war empire on steroids

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and built for corner camping even worse than dwarves or cathay

gaunt lily
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the real issue with putting a cost on a lasgun is the fact that the Emperium has no unified currency KEKW_ogryn

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supposedly so long as your planet isnt so regressed and backwards you dont even know what metal working is making and maintaining lasguns should be doable, if you live next to a forgeworld then you might as well be drowning in them

plush mason
#

like for all the jokes and memes about the imperium's rulers being inbreed idiots the reality is the high lords are frankly very competent, but they are stuck with the most broken system you can think of and everything is so fucked they have no hope of keeping anything in order for very long

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which is likely why most of them just give up and do the bare minimum needed to keep their high status

valid needle
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No

nova scaffold
valid needle
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A chapter can function without librarians but is effectively dead in the water without their other psykers.

celest dome
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What? No

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Do you mean Astropath and Navigator ?

gaunt lily
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astropaths are psykers tbf

valid needle
misty vector
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Wouldnt say they are really part of the chapters

valid needle
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But if a chapter is fleet based, they don’t really have a fleet without them and effectively can’t operate anymore.

gaunt lily
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likewise if a chapter is planet based without them they cant leave their planet, or make long range communications to others

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its like saying the munitorum isnt really part of an imperial guard regiment, when they provide the personnel to manage most of the administation and supply duties including processing the requests for supplies and managing the supply convoys that bring them... and also providing the commissars

nova scaffold
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ayo

gaunt lily
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like yes theyre not part of the regiment/chapter itself but little in the imperium can operate in isolation

nova scaffold
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can i talk about horse names

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like why do horses always get the goofiest name

gaunt lily
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why can pet names be stupid? because people are

nova scaffold
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if i reincarnation as a race horse and my owner named me "Hatsune miku stinky feet" ill make sure anyone who bet on me become chapter 11 bankrupt

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like be horribly inconsistent

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atlease number 4 is affordable

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because who TF buys a horse named "kidslooktouchable"

nova scaffold
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oh btw grass wonder is dead

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@gaunt lily i forgot to remind you

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all the horses the horse girls based off in Uma is gonna die

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all the horses because turns out they only live in 30 years

gaunt lily
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ok? I dont play Uma but i thought the mortality of horses was a given

nova scaffold
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they're goofy

celest dome
# valid needle Those are psykers yes

Astropath are, but are only needed for long range communication, they're still able to do stuff, either by joining bigger fleets, or by using shorter range communication systems

celest dome
nova scaffold
celest dome
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it's part of the reason why

nova scaffold
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thiers a slim chance that someone named a horse "Hitlermissingtesticles"

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you know its the apocalypse

celest dome
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Possibly Offensive to certain cultures so probably not

plush mason
nova scaffold
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SAY THE NAME

plush mason
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no thanks discord might ban me

nova scaffold
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if they do, they won't be on the news to begin with

plush mason
#

automod exists sadly

nova scaffold
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until the investors are throwing a tantrum

plush mason
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or the payment processors

nova scaffold
nocturne crest
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I wonder if the imperium has a national sport.

nova scaffold
nocturne crest
#

I wonder if space marines can punt grenades like they're footballs.

nova scaffold
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i mean they can toss it as a high velocity water balloon

storm jungle
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Well thats not a worrying case of redflags at all.

median star
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so is it ever stated what happened to the planet that the iron cage took place on they turn it into a memorial or something or is just just some place now

storm jungle
rocky gale
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Typical Imperial Fist L

median star
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so the inquisition just red tapped the whole ass planet

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what gamers

storm jungle
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Gestapo Moment

rocky gale
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"No you don't understand I deliberately ordered all my loyal sons who would do whatever I told them to go and die on purpose (they did it because they were so loyal), I had to do it because they wouldn't have followed my orders to adhere to the Codex otherwise." Rogal "Dumbass" Dorn

storm jungle
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Wait until they rewrite all that shit

median star
storm jungle
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and make it so that it was some epic MCU-ass brave last stand the Fists did

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and how the Iron Warriors suck 2000x

storm jungle
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this is just you being lazy

median star
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yes do pride my self at being passable on some 40k knowledge but not as quizzical as some here

storm jungle
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Its not quizzical to just look up stuff on lexi

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get out of my office

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you're fired

median star
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no no its not but u r be_YAYYY

storm jungle
#

never

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🫡

median star
storm jungle
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So true oomfie

nocturne crest
#

So what are the chances that GW will go back to the iron cage at some point?

sour hornet
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Bro

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Callidus assassins are wild

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remember when that one assassin vored a baby whole like a python ?

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sick

dapper gyro
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Sounds like you want to be that baby.

median star
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in a sm2 lobby and hearing a space wolf and black templar complain about ultra marines

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holy mother of chud its getting worse

storm jungle
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🫡

storm jungle
#

They announced the Scouring series like last month

nocturne crest
#

I mean, like a second event taking place on the Iron Cage.

plush mason
#

in the modern timeline?

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as in 40k

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maybe if Dorn and or Peter turbo comes back

rocky gale
#

It would be pretty funny if they readded Perturabo and Dorn back to the game with Perturabo rebuilding the Iron Cage and issuing a second challenge.

plush mason
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Gman looking at Dorn after hearing about it

rocky gale
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Gman "Don't fucking fall for it a second time"

Dorn:

plush mason
#

yup

sacred bluff
# storm jungle

it says 400 weren't recovered, but does it say how many fist actually died?

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i can't wait to read it in the new series

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let adb, abnett, or rath write it 🙏🏻

nocturne crest
rocky gale
#

Well actually there's two possibilities, either Dorn returns to face the challenge of the Iron Cage, or Perturabo has imprisoned Dorn in it's centre and challenges the Imperial Fists and their successors to come get him.

storm jungle
#

The Iron Cage as a lore event is older than most people on this server

sacred bluff
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i want 40k perturabo

celest dome
#

I want 40k Perturabo, ||so that he get the same amount of losses as Mortarion||

rocky gale
#

I can see it, it's the second possibility, Dorn's imprisoned, Pert taunts him as his legion gets slaughtered (Guilliman can't assist this time because Pert said if anyone other than the Fists showed up he'd execute Dorn. Seeing his sons suffering again in the Iron Cage Dorn breaks himself free and fights Perturabo, Guilliman learns that Dorn has broken free and commits additional forces to the battle forcing the Iron Warriors to flee once again.

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IF claim it as a win because they recovered Dorn, IF claim it as a win because they killed lots of Fists again

hallow plover
#

For the epic launch of a new edition of course

valid needle
celest dome
#

"our legion"
💀

valid needle
#

Which is about right because we only had enough for 5 chapters including BT but I doubt they were much over guillimans limit by then.

valid needle
#

If you play a chapter on TT it’s your chapter lol

tough haven
#

“Listen here buddy, we’re going to eviscerate you”

tough haven
dapper gyro
storm jungle
valid needle
storm jungle
shadow plover
storm jungle
#

also calling me a "bigot" off the bat is uhh 🤨

forest orbit
#

Truly a black templar fan moment

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damn us black templar fans, WE RUINED THE BLACK TEMPLARS

storm jungle
#

LMFAO

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Im not saying anything

valid needle
shadow plover
#

tourists huh

forest orbit
#

can they try to not be weird fascists

valid needle
forest orbit
valid needle
forest orbit
#

I dont go roleplaying and calling people "tourists", thats cringe af

celest dome
#

I really doubt that the part of the community that caused a bad name to the Black Templars and the DKoK can be qualified as Tourist 💀

forest orbit
#

^

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Its just a weak excuse, longtime fans can also be awful people

valid needle
celest dome
#

Just cause I've got Heretical in my name doesn't mean i'm roleplaying staregryn

sacred bluff
valid needle
sacred bluff
#

so you were fine with the female custodes in the tithes episode

valid needle
#

Yes

sacred bluff
#

okay

valid needle
#

Although blowing up a world of civvies was a bit harsh

sacred bluff
#

to prevent the spread of xenos

valid needle
#

Yes yes the greater good and all that

storm jungle
#

They shouldnt have been born poor

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🫡

dapper gyro
#

People are chill, it is just that many of the people with similar profiles do role play and act as if 40K is their life and therefore their personality that usually turns out to have bad take.

storm jungle
#

ı MEAN

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Well yes

dapper gyro
#

And the insult right at the start doesn't help the case...

forest orbit
#

What insult

dapper gyro
#

Not you, go away, shoo shoo.

forest orbit
#

Uh no

valid needle
forest orbit
#

literally almost 99% of space marine pfp here turn out to be weird chuds lol

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I dont really blame the mods for being cautious

sharp pollen
#

what if we get noise marine pfp guy

celest dome
#

With a higher percentage for the Black Templar 💀

queen laurel
forest orbit
#

mostly because they dont cope as being "good guys"

queen laurel
forest orbit
#

and ive been in this hobby since like the original war for armageddon codex came out lol

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so like I kinda know my way around tbh

celest dome
valid needle
misty vector
#

chaos is the truth fr fr

queen laurel
forest orbit
valid needle
vagrant fox
#

no doubt the imperial are the good guys because they're funniest

storm jungle
#

they would never do any freaky sex stuff

green loom
queen laurel
#

yeah right

dapper gyro
#

Imperial has literal pleasure worlds...

celest dome
#

Remember the Servitor toy, and the implication of Servitor brothels 💀

nocturne crest
#

And don't they give noble children lobotomised people to work as toys?

spring cairn
#

i mean they're not necessarily centered around the freaky kind of pleasure

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plenty are but

dapper gyro
#

Or how about cultist assassins and the assassin temples...

nocturne crest
#

Why?

dapper gyro
misty vector
#

Surely imperials would never live in excess

spring cairn
#

can a man not get laid at the hotel

celest cedar
storm jungle
#

the amount of creepy fucked up shit rich people do in real life?

celest dome
storm jungle
#

why is anyone shocked by this lol

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yeah exactly

storm jungle
#

Yeah I repeat it a lot because its unfortunately kinda easy to forget.

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remember, if they could, most of those people would make us actual servitors lol

nocturne crest
#

That's horrifyingly true.

spring cairn
#

no such thing

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don't you know about trickle down economics

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they love us

dapper gyro
#

We just talked about the Orange and the Rat the other day...

nocturne crest
#

What they trickle down is piss.

spring cairn
#

not even piss

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piss filtered thru shit

storm jungle
#

aptly put lol

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"You get stressed at work? Its okay we installed a small room where you can go into cry and scream before getting back to work"