Arguable.
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
dapper gyro
Made a lot of EV, but also has many many bad takes.
storm jungle
Musk really doesnt do any "good" things
Lex actively fixes America mostly as a nation with LexCorp lol
opaque coyote
All Star Superman.
Goated comic book and the movie is actually a decent adaptation.
Not perfect but it did well trying to fit a comic series into a movie
storm jungle
All Star Superman.
Goated comic book and the movie is actually a decent adaptat...
Yeah thats the one
languid meadow
I mean the only thing I can say about musk doing good things is making EVs popular and getting people reinterested into space again.
near wasp
Arguably EVs are worse for the environment
storm jungle
yeah that
opaque coyote
Yeah thats the one
Yeah the movie ending is so much better than the comic.
storm jungle
and even that is like "well duh"
opaque coyote
But that's pretty much the only better part arguably
dapper gyro
He did make EV more appealing, helped other car manufacturers on that front.
outer wave
The most Musk has done as of recent is make Grok trans
opaque coyote
But that's more a problem with the medium
dapper gyro
Arguably EVs are worse for the environment
Depend on where you live, with which kind of energy you get from.
opaque coyote
~~The most Musk has done as of recent is make Grok trans~~
I feel bad for the kids Musk has
near wasp
Depend on where you live, with which kind of energy you get from.
Just purely based on how destructive lithium mining is
opaque coyote
He is basically an Emperor tier Dad.
opaque coyote
One of his kids became trans.
He instantly disowned them
outer wave
I feel bad for the kids Musk has
Its awful, I hope they grow up to be okay individuals
spare osprey
And that was to be a human shield
opaque coyote
And called her infected by the woke mind virus
opaque coyote
And that was to be a human shield
...God damn the Emperor is a better dad than Elon Musk
dapper gyro
Just purely based on how destructive lithium mining is
Same thing could be said for so many things.
opaque coyote
How the fuck do you fuck up that badly
paper haven
Apparently it's not that difficult
dapper gyro
Hydro electric literally destroy living places.
spare osprey
And called her infected by the woke mind virus
Ye Vivian. Honestly worst part about it is all she want’s to have Elon detached from her name. But it’s all you see
opaque coyote
Hell at least the Emperor has the excuse of literally being separated from humanity due to being an immortal god being.
Elon Musk isn't a God being.
dapper gyro
It is really down to if the good outweight the bad.
languid meadow
I need more nuclear power
near wasp
Wish people weren't so terrified of nuclear power
languid meadow
thank fuck they're building more reactors here
opaque coyote
Ye Vivian. Honestly worst part about it is all she want’s to have Elon detached ...
I feel bad for Vivian. I hope she lives a good life away from her sperm donor
spare osprey
Same
outer wave
And called her infected by the woke mind virus
Worse than that, he actively said she was killed by the woke mind virus
paper haven
Probably for the best
near wasp
But of course a few dumbfucks who don't know how to build a reactor and then disengaged all the safety protocols to test it ruined nuclear power for everybody.
opaque coyote
Wish people weren't so terrified of nuclear power
Honestly I get why people are scared.
But at the same time we got much better disposal and manager methods
I don't think it should be a main source of power. But I definitely think it should be more widespread
Like we should still invest in renewables but we should use nuclear to help substitute for many areas.
Until we get reliable renewable
near wasp
Nuclear should already be the main source imo
paper haven
Nuclear power rarely goes awry but when it does, it really goes awry
opaque coyote
Nuclear should already be the main source imo
I think that it should be a major secondary but not 100% main.
Mainly because humans always find a way to
Fuck up horribly
languid meadow
Yall hyped for that reactor on the moon
How many kids did he touch to promise such a thing
crazy ass distraction
outer wave
Yall hyped for that reactor on the moon
How the fuck are you guys gonna bring power back down to the states
near wasp
I think that it should be a major secondary but not 100% main.
Mainly because h...
No rbmk!
opaque coyote
How the fuck are you guys gonna bring power back down to the states
We're cooked
outer wave
How many kids did he touch to promise such a thing
Im sure about 30 of the senate's
spare osprey
How many kids did he touch to promise such a thing
Genuinely he’s on every fucking page
opaque coyote
Genuinely he’s on every fucking page
Wasn't this announced like two years ago
spare osprey
Like wdym
outer wave
We're cooked
Hey, hopefully this means the government and any associated businesses collapse together
opaque coyote
I distinctly remember NASA announcing they were going back to the moon
languid meadow
I distinctly remember NASA announcing they were going back to the moon
Artemis which was gonna have the first women on the moon
but nowwwww
spare osprey
Ya
opaque coyote
How the fuck are they gonna get a reactor to the moon
languid meadow
idk if it's gonna get cancelled due to "woke, DEI"
opaque coyote
They got more than half their budget cut
languid meadow
or whatever
opaque coyote
idk if it's gonna get cancelled due to "woke, DEI"
Bro they deleted mentions of a black WW2 hero
languid meadow
yeah it's fucked
opaque coyote
Because they track global warming
Also is useful for many farmers to predict weather.
languid meadow
btw we have 6 years left of the ISS
paper haven
Why the hell would you build a nuclear reactor on the moon?
languid meadow
which sucks
spare osprey
Bro they deleted mentions of a black WW2 hero
They also just had a “glitch” on the library of congress website which deleted two parts of the constitution
opaque coyote
Trump fucks over farmers yet again
spare osprey
They also just had a “glitch” on the library of congress website which deleted t...
The specific ones giving you the right to fight unlawful detainment
dapper gyro
But yeah, I hate Muskrat with every single fibre of my body.
opaque coyote
Why the hell would you build a nuclear reactor on the moon?
Omega-3 is abundant in the Moon.
A rare material on Earth that's useful for power shenangians
Supposedly better than Oil
paper haven
Omega-3 is abundant in the Moon.
A rare material on Earth that's useful for pow...
Sure but it's on the moon
paper haven
Far as I know, power isn't wireless
opaque coyote
I think I named a fucking vitamin instead
paper haven
Tesla coil
That's an arc. You still need a connection and the moon is pretty far away
opaque coyote
Far as I know, power isn't wireless
Fuck if I know man
Just listing what they would use theoretically
languid meadow
It would be a great resource but like
near wasp
You named the oil you get from fish
languid meadow
we can't do fusion consistently enough
near wasp
Yet
near wasp
XD
paper haven
I can maybe understand mining it one the moon but a power plant?
opaque coyote
I can maybe understand mining it one the moon but a power plant?
The moon is useful.
The problem is that Uhhh
We have bigger problems currently
near wasp
There was a fusion reaction recently that supposedly was energy positive
languid meadow
yeah it didn't last long but it's a big step
opaque coyote
I think we need to fix that
outer wave
The moon is useful.
The problem is that Uhhh
We have bigger problems currently
I'd rather we fix our issues on this planet first before moving anywhere else, even to the moon
opaque coyote
yeah it didn't last long but it's a big step
Fusion power by 2050 trust-
languid meadow
I'd rather we fix our issues on this planet first before moving anywhere else, e...
the thing is the moon might be key to fixing our problems
due to Helium-3
near wasp
Can we stop talking about our shitty political landscape though. I deal with this shit daily
paper haven
I'm voting we focus our resources and energy to fixing earth bound problems
opaque coyote
I'd rather we fix our issues on this planet first before moving anywhere else, e...
Tbf we got a lot of materials we use now from space exploration.
So it helps fix our major problems.
But we definitely need to focus on the social aspects for a bit
opaque coyote
Y'know the funniest thing is that
paper haven
Au natural
outer wave
Tbf we got a lot of materials we use now from space exploration.
So it helps fi...
Thing is, I guarantee rich people are just gonna use it to just leave first and do whatever, leaving the rest of us with all of their issues
paper haven
Thing is, I guarantee rich people are just gonna use it to just leave first and ...
I'm ok with them moving to the moon
opaque coyote
Thing is, I guarantee rich people are just gonna use it to just leave first and ...
Maybe, but space colonization is difficult.
For rich people to move away, it needs to be comfortable first.
paper haven
They'll die trying to get to Mars
outer wave
I mean where will they go?
Yo momma--
Not sure, but I guess the moon as Dylan mentioned
opaque coyote
And if we have multiple colonies that are stable
languid meadow
after more than a year of living there their bodies would prob fucking collapse
languid meadow
I don't think we'll ever get space colonies for prob centuries, like actual ones and not research bases.
near wasp
Venus might be more terraformible than mars or luna
languid meadow
Right now when it comes to space it should be with the focus are harnessing the resources there to fix earth and prepare for the future
opaque coyote
I don't think we'll ever get space colonies for prob centuries, like actual ones...
Because seriously, even the theoretical settling conditions are difficult.
You need to handle severe isolation, exercise constantly, it's pretty fucking stressful.
Living in what's essentially a college dorm room
languid meadow
yeah
opaque coyote
WW2 submarine level conditions
paper haven
Except somehow more dangerous
outer wave
Because seriously, even the theoretical settling conditions are difficult.
You ...
Good point on the exercise, most of these people would probably rot before they could do much of anything in a year
near wasp
Idk why nobodies come up with a business model for mining astroids yet
languid meadow
yeah the only reason astronauts come back down with minimal difficulty is because they're required to work out every day
paper haven
Living at the bottom of the ocean would be more feasible
languid meadow
even then it's still a pain back on earth
opaque coyote
Basically the people on the colony would need to be brave, strong, and smart. Willing to accept the possibility of dying horribly due to a problem.
outer wave
~~Also apologies for making you deal with our topic despite your complaint @near wasp ~~
dapper gyro
Basically the people on the colony would need to be brave, strong, and smart. Wi...
Space horror movies...
opaque coyote
Good point on the exercise, most of these people would probably rot before they ...
Also need constant rotations
And due to the moon/Mars going dark. They need to get away before that
Since then they lose their main source of power
Yeah but I assume we'll use robots.
And even one small asteroid would be so much more profitable than years of mining on Earth.
near wasp
Also giv access to more "rare earth" metals
opaque coyote
So even if it takes 16 years to go there and back. If the asteroid is decently big. Then it's basically a treasure of resources.
opaque coyote
Space horror movies...
I mean basically
Except there's no monster
Just you and your crew
Hopefully you all get along
It's like having roommates except they'll never go away for months
near wasp
So even if it takes 16 years to go there and back. If the asteroid is decently b...
Took the probes like 90 days
opaque coyote
Took the probes like 90 days
Nvm then
That's a fucking profitable resource right there
opaque coyote
But like nobodies even trying
Nah we totally need African children to mine cobalt
It is necessary
Tbf part of the problem is getting the Asteroid to us
near wasp
Something something job market
opaque coyote
Which is definitely more difficult
I know one solution proposed is literally just hurling it into the ocean
To be picked up
Which is funny as fuck to think about
near wasp
Can you imagine the pirates
opaque coyote
Can you imagine the pirates
... honestly you have given me an idea for a story
Modern pirates but for asteroids
Ransoming big rocks for a big payday
opaque coyote
We couldn't free drop though
Yeah probably but it's funnier to imagine us just
"okay we're near the atmosphere..
YEET"
near wasp
Then tsunami galore
opaque coyote
I mean if it's near a beach
Then that would happen
If it's in the middle of the ocean probably not
near wasp
Nope even if it's deep ocean it can cause tsunami
opaque coyote
...
rocky gale
Venus might be more terraformible than mars or luna
But people always forget that a day on Venus is 243 earth days
opaque coyote
But people always forget that a day on Venus is 243 earth days
"Has a day passed?"
"Yeah."
"Great! So Darktide must have gotten a Mechanicus Class."
"... nnnnope."
"Melta gun?"
"Nah, just the trusty plasma rifle"
rocky gale
Funnily a day on Venus is longer than a year on Venus
opaque coyote
"you mother f-"
rocky gale
243 in a day, 224 in a year
rocky gale
Yea
opaque coyote
Yeah makes sense
rocky gale
So it orbits the sun faster than it's rotating on it's axis
opaque coyote
Honestly if there is one entertaining thought
Imagine playing video games with like established space colonies
"Bro why does he have 900 ping"
"He's playing from the Moon"
Realistically each planet would have their own internet
...
If we ever get that far.
Honestly if there is one irrational hope
I hope to live long enough to the point where going to the moon is like
Equivalent to using an airplane to go to another country
nocturne zephyr
Fellas
rocky gale
Realistically each planet would have their own internet
Yea like even if we have lightspeed internet, there would still be at best (depending on relative positioning) a 2 minute delay on any transmission.
Range is like 2-14 minutes depending on relative orbits
3-15 for Mars
nova scaffold
is thier a vehicle that is kinda stupid but yall like it
opaque coyote
Yea like even if we have lightspeed internet, there would still be at best (depe...
Again I still have that fic idea where the Imperium has a galaxy wide internet somehow
No idea how it would work but it's supposed to be kinda shitposty
So
Eh
Idk I just want to see what would an Imperium YouTube would look like
nova scaffold
ngl i already feel in love with that already
like the ikyth and the ghrykyn is cool even though its just massive
opaque coyote
"TODAY, I HAVE 10,000,000 CHILDREN WITH CANCER. THEY MUST FIGHT EACH OTHER IN A BATTLE ROYALE! WINNER WILL GET A FREE SURGERY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN THE INQUISTION!"
- Mr. Beast(man)
Also had a cute idea of a Sister of Battle in a deathwatch Inquistor retinue
Reviewing weapons
Including Xenos ones
Don't worry, she applied 10 purity seals it's safe
Kinda in the format of Forgotten weapons, but with an added segment where she tries out the guns
...
On live targets
nova scaffold
like its dumb but i want one
opaque coyote
like its dumb but i want one
...why does the main gun look like a cock and balls
nova scaffold
btw the driver seat is at the back
nova scaffold
...why does the main gun look like a cock and balls
thats a short barrel howitzer
opaque coyote
thats a short barrel howitzer
It's a cock and balls howitzer
nova scaffold
It has two balls underneath it
its a recoil damper
opaque coyote
You cannot change my mind
It's a cock and balls
This is now permanent
Don't try and change my mind with
"Logic"
And
nova scaffold
its actually massive so yeah it completely takes up all the interior space
opaque coyote
"Reasonable arguments"
opaque coyote
its actually massive so yeah it completely takes up all the interior space
Ah
It's a grower
nova scaffold
i wonder in a scenario of a xeno race save a astarties from a ork attack
will it like reduce the chance of getting exterminated?
opaque coyote
i wonder in a scenario of a xeno race save a astarties from a ork attack
Astartes are probably the #1 hater of any type of xenos
Like y'know Chaos SMs?
They still refuse to work with any type of Xenos
nova scaffold
the one on drug
opaque coyote
They literally sold their souls to super hell
nova scaffold
space aids
opaque coyote
And they still hate Xenos so much that they would rather die
Than work with them
The T'au also have them as KoS as a result
nova scaffold
like that one raven is so much of a chad that he died from cringe
like straight up commands his heart to stop
opaque coyote
Yeah pretty much.
If it was a bunch of guardsmen
...
Maybe they would conveniently
Look the other way
But it's a 50/50 shot
nova scaffold
competitive racist
nova scaffold
Depends but 90% of the time
what about the 10%?
opaque coyote
what about the 10%?
Some Inquistors have Eldar in their retinue
It actually depends
misty vector
there are more radical inquisitors who would trade with xenos
opaque coyote
Rogue Traders also are much more accepting
Generally
Still a 50/50 shot but they really care more about money than racism
nova scaffold
there are more radical inquisitors who would trade with xenos
because they have critical thinking skills and not on space crack
dapper gyro
Some of Inquisitor and even Admech work with Xenos because that's how they get their hand on some items.
opaque coyote
because they have critical thinking skills and not on space crack
Eh some of them still are on space crack.
dapper gyro
Just killing them won't get you needed info and gears.
nova scaffold
Some of Inquisitor and even Admech work with Xenos because that's how they get t...
stc?
dapper gyro
Non human tech
nova scaffold
Eh some of them still are on space crack.
the finest one blessed by the imperium
opaque coyote
There are a lot of minor Ordos in the Inquistion. Pretty much different philosophies
opaque coyote
stc?
STCs are basically 3D printers... but on steroids.
You ask them to say make a tank made out wood and lint. They will make a tank out of wood and lint.
Most of them are lost and gone unfortunately.
However, there does remain STC fragments. Essentially blueprints from STCs.
dapper gyro
Like, the BW, despite being xenos hunters, they need xenos tech to increase their effectiveness, and you don't just kill for it.
Like many doctrine in real life, if your gear will fall to the enemy, you destroy it. Xenos do that, too.
nova scaffold
Non human tech
i imagine a high up inquisition was saved from a heretic sniper and look at the guy who saved him
and thats the guy
opaque coyote
and thats the guy
Again I think it could work if they were classified as Abhuman
I mean
They have human skin tone
Arms and legs
Their faces just look weird
nova scaffold
Arms and legs
if they recognize the god emperor as thier god then a yes
opaque coyote
if they recognize the god emperor as thier god then a yes
Yeah just do that
And make them abhumans
Ez
nova scaffold
opaque coyote
Need to make a slur for them though
Very important
The Imperium is still very racist towards Abhumans
But uh
At least they won't kill them
...unless if it's a black templar
nova scaffold
atlease they are useful
opaque coyote
Then they probably would
But Black Templars are seen as crazy
Even within the Imperium
Which is an accomplishment
paper haven
Because they are
nova scaffold
final boss of racism
opaque coyote
final boss of racism
Yeah basically
They got saved by some shark abhumans
...
They immediately massacred them
There is also an excerpt where a guardsman went up to one of them to say hi
Problem is that he got differently colored eyes. That's literally it.
So he immediately got his skull crushed
Again, they are considered insane even by their peers
I love them for that
dapper gyro
weaponized autism...
nova scaffold
paper haven
As Rogal Dorn said: "They are absolute lunatics."
nova scaffold
so yeah thats a good ending for quars if they get classified as abhumans
they may be second class
opaque coyote
so yeah thats a good ending for quars if they get classified as abhumans
It's either
Abhumans or join the T'au.
nova scaffold
but still better
dapper gyro
It is funny that in general, the BT in the BW are nicer than most.
opaque coyote
It is funny that in general, the BT in the BW are nicer than most.
"Never ask a black templar whether their wife is a Xeno or not."
Seriously what's with white supremacists and having like different race wives like how tf
paper haven
Tau women prefer human men
dapper gyro
To be fair for those guys, not all of them are insane and BW is a good way to get away while staying honoured.
nova scaffold
wanna talk about which quar vehcles works the best for the astra imperium
opaque coyote
wanna talk about which quar vehcles works the best for the astra imperium
I mean
I assume they're gonna be replaced with like
Whatever fuckass material the rest are made of
Right?
Plasteel and all that shit
If it's the box tanks, I'm sorry man but they're cooked
paper haven
What a cool and useful design. Time to make it worse
nova scaffold
like in the mean time when its apart of the astra militarum
opaque coyote
like in the mean time when its apart of the astra militarum
Assuming same design just different materials
Like whatever space ahh tech the rest of the Imperium's gear are made out of
nova scaffold
the best design currently is the ailthean from the crusader
its a reliable infantry support
paper haven
Just a silly lil guy
opaque coyote
the best design currently is the ailthean from the crusader
...gonna be honest here.
Although I think Jay is a bit too mean to you.
That design is cooked even by Imperium standards
...
nova scaffold
basically like a m8 hmc irl
paper haven
It can block a few lascannon shots
opaque coyote
I don't even know what's the point of these MFS btw
Why do they have stilts
Was he bullied for being 5'4"?
paper haven
I'm assuming some kind of mountainous terrain scout unit?
nova scaffold
It can block a few lascannon shots
thier is cargo carrier version
opaque coyote
I'm assuming some kind of mountainous terrain scout unit?
Bro how is he gonna climb a rock let alone a mountain
paper haven
Bro how is he gonna climb a rock let alone a mountain
Long legs
paper haven
It works well for uneven terrain
opaque coyote
He's gonna fall like a dumbass
nova scaffold
my favorite crusader equipment is the afir TK3 15mm anti material rifle
paper haven
Oh, if they don't bend then I have no idea
opaque coyote
"I've fallen... And I can't get up" ahh
opaque coyote
my favorite crusader equipment is the afir TK3 15mm anti material rifle
That gun design is probably the worst thing I have ever seen.
Perfect.
nova scaffold
is a mix between a wz 35 and a ptrs
dapper gyro
Bullpup bolt action...
paper haven
What even are these things?
dapper gyro
Even worse then...
opaque coyote
is semi auto
Honestly I can't even comprehend how that thing even works
nova scaffold
basically the Russian 14.5 on meth
dapper gyro
There is the M82A2, but that thing is meh.
nova scaffold
Honestly I can't even comprehend how that thing even works
basically a toggle lock action
opaque coyote
...
paper haven
I'm sure it is both practical and safe
dapper gyro
14.5mm is not that impressive to be honest.
opaque coyote
14.5mm is not that impressive to be honest.
Yeah
Make it shoot a larger bullet
That explodes
paper haven
More dakka
opaque coyote
Bare minimum for Imperium
dapper gyro
Useless you bring on the 14.5x114 ADPS that the Chinese has.
paper haven
Stop trying to make 14.5 work, China
dapper gyro
Yeah
Make it shoot a larger bullet
It already does. Most 14.5mm AT rounds are API.
nova scaffold
14.5mm is not that impressive to be honest.
is like that but the case is longer and way hotter
opaque coyote
More dakka
Also on a completely unrelated note.
Cyberpunk has like intentionally dumb design choices (most of the time)
And I love it
Like most of the guns are based off of flawed prototypes
dapper gyro
Also, bigger bore is not necessary better.
paper haven
Also on a completely unrelated note.
Cyberpunk has like intentionally dumb desi...
I like how weird the weapons look
opaque coyote
Magazine fed revolver moment
paper haven
Mataba
dapper gyro
The Ukrainian uses 14.5x114 case with 12.7 browning bullet, it results in something even stronger.
paper haven
Slide operated revolver
opaque coyote
I like how weird the weapons look
Also I fucking laughed when the fucking magazine fed revolver's first sentence in it's description was that it
"Harkens back to the Wild West.'
Shows
A) how cooked the history books must be in that universe
nova scaffold
so yeah in a scenario of quars become apart of the Astra militarum, i wonder what they look like
opaque coyote
B) WHAT FUCKING WILD WEST
paper haven
Also I fucking laughed when the fucking magazine fed revolver's first sentence i...
They mean the holo vid wild West movies
opaque coyote
I remember when shootouts happen with an AK-47
paper haven
I assume
opaque coyote
They mean the holo vid wild West movies
💀
I think the only thing in 2077 that is unintentional is that the overture literally pours out the whole bullet
dapper gyro
Yeah
Make it shoot a larger bullet
Some heavy stubber in 40K uses some 7.7mm which is about the same as many real life rounds...
opaque coyote
Like I am 95% sure that's a mistake
dapper gyro
Yes, it is.
nova scaffold
paper haven
Those bullets aren't what gets shot out of the barrel, duh
opaque coyote
Most of CP2077 are very fun though.
No you DID THE ACRONYM
NAAUURRR-
Cod Points moment
opaque coyote
Jokes aside, I think the balancing in Cyberpunk is wonky.
It has the same problem I have with FO4.
dapper gyro
opaque coyote
At least there's a lore reason this time but it still kinda sucks
Some enemies are way too tanky
dapper gyro
No you DID THE ACRONYM
Yes, because cyberpunk is a genre itself.
paper haven
That's why I spec into maxing out crit damage
dapper gyro
CP2077 is specific.
opaque coyote
I don't care how many implants you have. You should be FUCKING DEAD WHEN I PUMPED 15 ANTI MATERIAL ROUNDS INTO YOUR HEAD-
paper haven
Only the bosses become bullet sponges, which is still a problem but what can ya do?
opaque coyote
That's why I spec into maxing out crit damage
Also the SMGs kinda suck
Except like
The war crime one
paper haven
Also the SMGs kinda suck
I used the overture pretty much exclusively
opaque coyote
I mean it makes sense but also I don't think it's a thing that needs to be realistic
Also there are only two LMGs
Which sucks
paper haven
We need more LMGs
opaque coyote
Real
opaque coyote
Also something that I really want, though I actually understand why they haven't put it in the game
Duel wielding
With how underpowered the SMGs and the semi auto pistols are
I can't help but think
"Wouldn't it be better if I duel wielded them?"
paper haven
I feel like it should be in the game
dapper gyro
With how underpowered the SMGs and the semi auto pistols are
Wot? The Nue is strong as hell.
My favourite handgun.
opaque coyote
Wot? The Nue is strong as hell.
Fine *most of the semi auto pistols
Still though duel wielding
Seems perfect for Cyberpunk
dapper gyro
The M10AF is also pretty good as a full auto pistol.
For SMG, power SMGs sucks, but the smart ones are awesome.
paper haven
I want to like the smart guns
opaque coyote
Problem is that dual wielding is notoriously hard to balance
opaque coyote
I want to like the smart guns
Yeah I'm not really into the smart guns
dapper gyro
Problem is that dual wielding is notoriously hard to balance
Halo needlers moment...
nova scaffold
btw the ailtean and the chyweethl had a update with new weapons
dapper gyro
I like smart weapons in 2077.
nova scaffold
dapper gyro
Because they are ridicuous, therefore fun.
opaque coyote
I like smart weapons in 2077.
I also wish the power weapons didn't have a perk that is...
Questionable.
nova scaffold
you got a tri barrel hmg and a long gun for the ailthean
paper haven
Pew
dapper gyro
There is that smart shotgun that shoots explosive micro missile.
opaque coyote
I feel like penetrating through walls would've made more sense
dapper gyro
Literally a cluster bomb shot.
paper haven
Anti material weapons penetrate material when?
dapper gyro
The Grad does shoot through walls.
opaque coyote
I also like how smart guns can be non-lethal.
Ngl, although it's probably pointless, I do wish non-lethal was a bigger thing.
dapper gyro
You can use Ping to see the enemies then just spam the Grad.
opaque coyote
If only because it sounds funny to do a non-lethal playthrough
dapper gyro
The SOR-22 can also shoot through wall, but the damage is meh.
opaque coyote
"YOU PUT HIM IN A COMA. HIS BRAIN IMPLANTS FRIED YOU GONK!"
paper haven
I don't think going non lethal has any effect
opaque coyote
"I didn't kill him tho"
opaque coyote
I don't think going non lethal has any effect
It doesn't unless if you're doing the cyberpsycho questline
paper haven
God I wish there was a faction system
opaque coyote
Which tbh is actually fun. I just wish it wasn't so easy to accidentally murder them
dapper gyro
But I think that's a smart gun thing
Tech weapons. Most of them can ignore walls.
opaque coyote
God I wish there was a faction system
Okay something that definitely needs to be in the sequel is
Street cred being
Like
Impactful
When you have high street cred. You should have low level enemies run away
Or be like
"I don't want no trouble man.'
Like you've made such a name for yourself that people are actually scared.
And think twice about fighting you
dapper gyro
Weapons in perks in CP2077 needs a lot of testing to know which do what. Otherwise, taking at face value, it is not exactly the most interesting.
opaque coyote
Tech weapons. Most of them can ignore walls.
Yeah ngl I feel like
Power weapons should have ignored walls instead.
Tech weapons
...
Idk
Uhh
Actually tech should get the ricochet thing.
But it also actually homes in on enemies
So instead of needing to calculate the trajectory
Just have it be somewhat nearby
Kinda more of a smart gun thing but it would actually make it useful
Also something that I actually don't like is the tier system
Or the fact that you can't remove weapon mods
Like
Why Projekt red
Why??
Thank god for mods so that I can remove my mods
dapper gyro
Yeah ngl I feel like
Power weapons should have ignored walls instead.
Tech wea...
The ricochet is horrible, but base power weapons are stronger than tech.
Without charging, most tech are just worse power weapons.
opaque coyote
The ricochet is horrible, but base power weapons are stronger than tech.
I feel like if the ricochet had homing properties it'd probably be better.
But that sounds like smart gun territory
dapper gyro
I feel like if the ricochet had homing properties it'd probably be better.
But ...
There is a perk for that.
nova scaffold
do yall got adivce on painting this since i wanna paint this because i ordered it
opaque coyote
There is a perk for that.
Should be default smh
nova scaffold
like what scheme i should do
opaque coyote
do yall got adivce on painting this since i wanna paint this because i ordered ...
I am unfortunately not in the painting figures department.
Cause I like having food to eat
Deino
Pls
dapper gyro
Tech shotgun suck ass, power shotgun is so much better.
opaque coyote
Tech shotgun suck ass, power shotgun is so much better.
Real.
Nekomata is satisfying AF though
nova scaffold
Tech shotgun suck ass, power shotgun is so much better.
you got suggestion for painting scheme
i wanna make it uniqe
dapper gyro
i wanna make it uniqe
Caunter Camo Scheme
nova scaffold
Caunter Camo Scheme
show
nova scaffold
i dont have any of these colors
sacred ginkgo
You don’t need the exact color
nova scaffold
oh
sacred ginkgo
Just make the pattern out of something else or mix something similar
nova scaffold
just make it close enough
dapper gyro
It is yellow/tape, light green and grey.
Sometimes the grey is replaced with blue.
Or light green is changed with terracotta.
dapper gyro
Camouflage is called "pattern", because there will always be different colour set for the same pattern.
nova scaffold
or just green
dapper gyro
You wanted something unique...
nova scaffold
yeah i just show you examples of standard easky colors for tanks
just for a example or comparisons
dapper gyro
If you want WW1/2 style, Flecktarn is combat proven for over 100 years.
nova scaffold
how you do flecktarn?
nova scaffold
i never done dots before
dapper gyro
Take a base colour, then do dots of colours.
nova scaffold
like i had to one dot at a time
dapper gyro
Army green is a good base colours.
dapper gyro
like i had to one dot at a time
You can make the dots bigger.
dapper gyro
Yes
nova scaffold
its even more painful since the easky tank i bought is large
sacred ginkgo
you can just do the "bottom color" as rattlecan or primer if you have it in that color
near wasp
I feel like a sevitor at work today, except I'm not even lobomized
dapper gyro
you can just do the "bottom color" as rattlecan or primer if you have it in that...
That's what I meant by base colour. The dots are not that bad to do.
It is quicker than you thought.
My tank with German late WW2 improvised pattern.
nova scaffold
i also order the easky auto ped
dapper gyro
There are historical tank with that pattern... which is a go ham and easy.
nova scaffold
the funny thing is that its confirm that it still goes even if they get split in half
basically like this
nova scaffold
i also order the easky auto ped
yoo @sacred ginkgo should i add shark theeth or something else
mossy peak
how often do parts of hive cities collapse
nova scaffold
nova scaffold
go with your gut
i tried
on the first chyweethl
but it was a failure
because i was suprised how dark is german gray
storm jungle
Yeah that looks like a pretty good WW1-esque vehicle id say lol
nova scaffold
Yeah that looks like a pretty good WW1-esque vehicle id say lol
it supose to be gray
it didnt look good
the standard color is blue
but you can give it camo
storm jungle
yeah thats pretty good still imo
nova scaffold
storm jungle
spare osprey
Ye and the two others
crystal forum
https://imgur.com/a/qoNVx31
GRUDGE MENTIONED!!!!!!!!
spare osprey
Tbf I don’t know if they’re new but they’re still dope
storm jungle
Tbf I don’t know if they’re new but they’re still dope
All 3 are new minus the one with the Kahl raising the axe against the hive tyrant
I know this as the expert 40k art autist
crystal forum
any steeljack art?
crystal forum
ffs why even add the coolest votaan unit ever and not make art
storm jungle
These are new
storm jungle
ffs why even add the coolest votaan unit ever and not make art
Might be in the codex, we'll see
crystal forum
imagine a book taking place in the galactic core
arguably a more interesting setting than nihilus
spare osprey
These are new
Niceee
Also I don’t think I mentioned this here
But an ai artist tried to get me to commission them lmao
storm jungle
Lmao awful
crystal forum
damn
spare osprey
I should mention
That is only for a half body
arctic talon
These are new
Maybe someday we’ll get the giant hover vehicle as a super heavy(probably not)
Maybe a smaller version of it lol
storm jungle
We'll see, they really like sneaking in Votann spacecraft, aircraft and vehicles into the back of these pieces lol
crystal forum
that thing is way too big
crystal forum
that's huge
storm jungle
"huge"
arctic talon
Not that huge
storm jungle
its 40k
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
like
arctic talon
Not an actual Ordinatus
storm jungle
size is not a matter of objection, im sorry
paper haven
Size isn't real
arctic talon
The one vehicle we are 100% never getting a full scale mini of
arctic talon
lol
All vehicles are scaled differently
From infantry for GW systems
Which is really funny
crystal forum
The one vehicle we are 100% never getting a full scale mini of
and imperator titans
i dont think votaan would get something so big for tabletop
arctic talon
For full scale it’s also a big maybe
storm jungle
GW has shown they dgaf about non-space marine big vehicles
crystal forum
As an epic scale thing
*imperialis 
arctic talon
Tbh the reason why is because titans sell like shit
arctic talon
GW has shown they dgaf about non-space marine big vehicles
They don’t care about the big marine ones either lol
storm jungle
They don’t care about the big marine ones either lol
me when aeronautica
arctic talon
I can count the number of times I’ve seen the marine super heavies irl
crystal forum
who tf would buy a titan
storm jungle
rich people
arctic talon
>me when aeronautica <:CatEvil:1118651361932873778>
God Aeronautica was cool
storm jungle
God Aeronautica was cool
Removing literally everyone but the Imperium is hilarious ngl, like what the hell lmao
arctic talon
Removing literally everyone but the Imperium is hilarious ngl, like what the hel...
Imperium wasn’t even the best selling stuff for Aeronautica btw
lol
crystal forum
they made it sound like aeronautica units would be usable in imperialis
storm jungle
LMAO
arctic talon
they made it sound like aeronautica units would be usable in imperialis
They are
Just
Not a large chunk of them
crystal forum
like 10% of them
arctic talon
It’s like 2
Of the
Fucking 10+ imperial planes
lol
Aeronautica being killed was a travesty
Really cool system
crystal forum
now it's lumped in with HH
arctic talon
We know it got killed because of Imperialis
Same with Titanicus
Which I’m kind of mad about
crystal forum
and they treat imperialis news as HH news
crystal forum
im sorry GW but heresy thursday is for actual HH news
arctic talon
Aeronautica was the only small scale non heresy stuff
lol
anyways Imperialis is doing fine
Mostly
rose thorn
*imperialis <:NerdyDog:1217642051248849036>
wrong, it says epic scale on the box
arctic talon
to my displeasure
crystal forum
wrong, it says epic scale on the box
you own one?
arctic talon
because imperialis basically killed 2 systems I really enjoyed
arctic talon
you own one?
The reboxed planes say epic scale
rose thorn
you own one?
no but there is liek 50 of them at my lgs
spare osprey
For your entertainment
crystal forum
NO PROOF
rose thorn
this looks liek ai- oh
spare osprey
AI art jump scare
It’s actually the only thing he didn’t trace, yet he put it on his PRICE LIST
crystal forum
what's a 3d full body
arctic talon
2 factions from completion
crystal forum
is it a model
spare osprey
Anyways give me Aeronautica back GW
Speaking of that, I actually just went to my hobby shop
spare osprey
Speaking of that, I actually just went to my hobby shop
And they have minis for it
arctic talon
Neat
spare osprey
Eldar and guard
arctic talon
Tbh there’s a lot of printable Aeronautica stuff
arctic talon
Eldar and guard
guard
What a faction you are in Aeronautica
Actual torment nexus
You only get access to valks
spare osprey
what's a 3d full body
I lowk have no idea
arctic talon
And AA batteries
crystal forum
ok but guard planes look the coolest
rose thorn
auronatica
spare osprey
I lowk have no idea
I would’ve messed with him if he wasn’t a “pay upfront” person
arctic talon
wasnt there sapce marines, eldar, custodies, tau, and guard?
Aeronautica faction list is in order of release dates: Ork, Navy, Guard, Tau, Space marines, Eldar, Necrons
crystal forum
I lowk have no idea
if he's asking for commissions then he's not doing good
rose thorn
Aeronautica faction list is in order of release dates: Ork, Navy, Guard, Tau, Sp...
oh necrons didn tknow that
i swore there was custodies ships in it
arctic talon
Necrons got the final bit
arctic talon
i swore there was custodies ships in it
There are
But they aren’t really a functional faction
rose thorn
lol
crystal forum
those AA platforms look cool
spare osprey
if he's asking for commissions then he's not doing good
Mhm. He actually kept begging when I said no
crystal forum
and they prove that basilisks can be AA
spare osprey
Mhm. He actually kept begging when I said no
Smth along the lines of “oh I’m having a discount and you can pay in halves”
arctic talon
But also like, if you want hyper elite
Just play Necrons
lol
You don’t need to pay the dropship tax
And you get to be the most elite faction in the game
crystal forum
Smth along the lines of “oh I’m having a discount and you can pay in halves”
HA so that's his tactic. the prices are all fake since he just gives everybody a discount and it makes it look like a better deal
lamest shit ever
crypto bro behavior
also illegal in the US
paper haven
The hell is that commission list?
spare osprey
The hell is that commission list?
Who knows
Here’s one of those $260 pieces btw
Like get FUCKED lmao
paper haven
That looks traced
spare osprey
That looks traced
It is
He does an ai prompt then just traces over it
And if it’s too fucked he “fixes” it with other stuff
Look at the bolter specifically
paper haven
That is disgusting
spare osprey
Extremely
paper haven
The bolter doesn't have a magazine
paper haven
The perspective makes him look stunted because the copied image has a different pose
outer wave
Yeah
paper haven
260 bucks and that's supposed to be a discount
spare osprey
Yeeeep
spare osprey
And if it’s too fucked he “fixes” it with other stuff
Oh another case of this
outer wave
Who is this guy?
spare osprey
Who is this guy?
outer wave
I see
spare osprey
Oh another case of this
Check out the banner
paper haven
Because he drew the legs straight
paper haven
The banner is an exact copy
outer wave
Id be kinda mad if I paid 260 for that
spare osprey
Id be kinda mad if I paid 260 for that
That’s exactly what I’m talkin about
paper haven
And he asks for payment before it's completed?
opaque coyote
Yeah the feet especially look uncanny. Like it feels like the AI prompt interpreted it as if the space marine was shoved into the snow
spare osprey
Like if you wanna be an ai scammer you CANNOT have your stuff be that expensive
opaque coyote
But for some reason, he didn't even like
spare osprey
Dude’s a rookie
opaque coyote
Made the full feet
spare osprey
Dude’s a rookie
You make it seem like you’re an aspiring artist, so your stuff isn’t that great but the prices are good and ppl will support you
opaque coyote
The helmet also has no 3d shape
spare osprey
Go like $60. But you’re acting like you got professional stuff
opaque coyote
At all
spare osprey
Cmon man
paper haven
AI art doesn't understand how light works
spare osprey
Here’s my favorite
dapper gyro
I want to puke.
opaque coyote
Here’s my favorite
That poor green space marine is getting his leg fused with the sand
Also look at that "bolter" in the background
paper haven
The sand is eating that marine
spare osprey
That poor green space marine is getting his leg fused with the sand
He also can’t decide if he’s behind or in front of mr bootleg sanguinius
opaque coyote
Bro I would've preferred actual stick figures ngl
paper haven
He also can’t decide if he’s behind or in front of mr bootleg sanguinius
Oh God I just noticed that
opaque coyote
Also there is nothing actually wrong with it but bootleg Sanguinius's face made me laugh
He just looks so pissed
Looks like he accidentally stepped on dog poop
paper haven
What's that skull thing on his belt?
spare osprey
Also there’s one that is an outlier from the rest
opaque coyote
Oh dear
spare osprey
Because it’s the only one I don’t THINK has ai
I legit just think it’s a mini drawn over
dapper gyro
It is a bj mask.
paper haven
The details are mushy
arctic talon
I legit just think it’s a mini drawn over
That’s literally the display mini
But fucked up lol
opaque coyote
I legit just think it’s a mini drawn over
...that is literally a mini.
Also there is
arctic talon
The arms are dif
opaque coyote
Zero pixels
paper haven
Saturnine armor mentioned
spare osprey
On his profile he’s got like actual sketches
dapper gyro
One of those custodes Terminator?
spare osprey
So he can seem normal
opaque coyote
On his profile he’s got like actual sketches
Show
paper haven
He doesn’t display any of these on his profile
Huge red flag
spare osprey
Not great ones
dapper gyro
Ok
paper haven
280 dollars
dapper gyro
Can we stop this horror?
opaque coyote
Not great ones
I mean it isn't bad.
But $280???
dapper gyro
This is worse than chaos, moving on.
spare osprey
I mean it isn't bad.
But $280???
Yeaaa
spare osprey
Can we stop this horror?
Fair lol
paper haven
I'm joking I don't know how much he would charge for this
opaque coyote
This is worse than chaos, moving on.
This is why the Imperium hates abominable intelligences
paper haven
The Emperor was wise to forbid it
dapper gyro
Because he saw the truth.
opaque coyote
Some of these profiles outright steal art btw
So
Maybe it isn't even his sketches
Could possibly be somebody else's
paper haven
I hadn't even considered that
Shows how naive I am, assuming an AI art scammer wouldn't steal art
crystal forum
I'm joking I don't know how much he would charge for this
i'd pay 40 bucks
paper haven
Still too much
crystal forum
for a full size
crystal forum
Shows how naive I am, assuming an AI art scammer wouldn't steal art
just ask them to show sketches
super easy way to tell
paper haven
Sketches are a good giveaway
crystal forum
also if an "experienced" artist doesn't give different payment levels depending on shading and extra characters then it's most likely bullshit
outer wave
Here’s my favorite
Why are those marines so different in comparison to the main figure?
sacred ginkgo
Because it’s not actual art
outer wave
I know but its annoying that he didn't even bother to try and keep the marines consistent
sacred ginkgo
Just noticed the 80’s art bolter in the background on a Primaris
crystal forum
Why are those marines so different in comparison to the main figure?
traced probably
outer wave
Thats not even tracing, its actively just copying the original image while trying to perfect any imperfections
crystal forum
that is the definition of tracing
spare osprey
I know but its annoying that he didn't even bother to try and keep the marines c...
It’s what you get when you ask ai for marines
Scuffed
crystal forum
tracing is barely an art form in itself
rotoscoping is the closest you can get to high effort tracing
outer wave
that is the definition of tracing
You can trace and not simply copy the original image
Like tracing a character, but then coloring them in differently or putting them in a different background
Or tracing a pose, but putting your own stuff on the pose to make a character, rather than simply making the same thing as the tracee
crystal forum
it's still pretty lazy artistically
combined with AI and you can hardly call it artistic
outer wave
Not disagreeing with you there
crystal forum
this artist will never learn or improve
outer wave
Using AI in your art or just using AI is already sketchy at best
potent dragon
Using AI in your art or just using AI is already sketchy at best
what if i train my own AI to make art
is that considered art
crystal forum
no
sacred ginkgo
You’re just making infinite slop based on your own work
With the sample size required for it to be decent you might as well just not
nova scaffold
Not great ones
that should be a crinimal offense for being 280 bucks
crystal forum
You’re just making infinite slop based on your own work
that's assuming they meant training on their art instead of just training an LLM on random art
crisp heath
You could just start drawing yourself for like 50% of the effort
sacred ginkgo
that's assuming they meant training on their art instead of just training an LLM...
Which is theft for zero benefit
crystal forum
yep
sacred ginkgo
Apparently clanker is coming back into style as a slur against AI in general
crystal forum
time to create a Software Engineers vs artists arc
you know you can be an artist and an engineer right
potent dragon
potent dragon
you know you can be an artist and an engineer right
artists use warp magic
outer wave
Apparently clanker is coming back into style as a slur against AI in general
Finally, the real slurs are coming back
sacred ginkgo
you know you can be an artist and an engineer right
They can produce the finest of all art, solutions composed entirely of zip ties and duct tape
crystal forum
you might learn something if you branch out a bit
outer wave
AI will be the emperor's ultimate weapon
No wonder why hes a corpse
sacred ginkgo
AI will be the emperor's ultimate weapon
Do they know?
potent dragon
No wonder why hes a corpse
we dont talk about that
nova scaffold
can we talk about the worst game we play
crisp heath
Just remeber to be patient and have grace with yourself and anything is possible
You can literally teach yourself
It's free real estate
crystal forum
They can produce the finest of all art, solutions composed entirely of zip ties ...
i make tabletop models with an engineering software 
sacred ginkgo
Solidworks?
crystal forum
that's the one yeah
potent dragon
i make tabletop models with an engineering software <:shrug:870836954239995915>
do you work as an artist?
outer wave
can we talk about the worst game we play
Recently? Its not that recent, but Fiesta Online cements to me the worst MMO experience I've had to deal with
sacred ginkgo
I use prefer onshape but I should try solidworks
crystal forum
do you work as an artist?
no, i work with electronics design
artistic stuff is what i do for fun
potent dragon
😳
crisp heath
Yeah I just sketch for fun
nova scaffold
Recently? Its not that recent, but Fiesta Online cements to me the worst MMO exp...
to me is cod bo6 because explain how a game in the year 2025 feels like its 2016 in a bad way, also i want my refund after i learned that the ceo of tryarch is a fucking horrible person for not paying their workers, leave them bearly anything to eat. and cheated on his wife with a woman from thailand that look 12