#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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They look like ironhead squats

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or Votaan

nova scaffold
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yeah they look fucking horrible

arctic talon
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the old squat aesthetic got sent to the fucking retconian

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for the best

storm jungle
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I didnt, longlegs, perish

nova scaffold
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thank got they got eaten by space roach

storm jungle
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Tyranids?

nova scaffold
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yes

crystal forum
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what is your fascination with roaches

spare osprey
storm jungle
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learn their name KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
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tbf they don't even follow the old aesthetic

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lol

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like

crystal forum
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i have never heard a living being call nids roaches

arctic talon
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They literally aren't following the old aesthetic

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the same way the drukhari in 5e aren't based on the 3e drukhari aesthetic beyond like

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basic ideas

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imo

spare osprey
storm jungle
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this was back whe nlike

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GW were cockteasing squats hard

nova scaffold
storm jungle
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and i still dont get the meth connection

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lol

arctic talon
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like nah lol

dapper gyro
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Love to see ammunition belt, but the gun uses magazine.

arctic talon
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The armor is completely dif

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along with the helmet

crystal forum
arctic talon
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Imo if they had done all the future LoV and Ironhead stuff

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I wouldn't mind

crystal forum
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it's straight up a space marine model

arctic talon
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lol

crystal forum
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it's a HH one too

storm jungle
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it isnt

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you do know like

crystal forum
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one of those mark 3 marines have it

nova scaffold
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bruh not one weapons look good with squats

storm jungle
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bolters pre-date the Imperium right

arctic talon
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as for where Grendl Grendlsen got it from shrugpriest

nova scaffold
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they all look bad

crystal forum
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shush dilara

storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
arctic talon
vagrant fox
storm jungle
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mfer

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that lore is older tha nmost people here

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😭

arctic talon
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any lore before 5e is new

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smh

nova scaffold
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oh MY GOD

spare osprey
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what in the hell

arctic talon
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any lore before I started was old/j

nova scaffold
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THEY HAVE TRAINS

storm jungle
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New fan discovers old minis moment

arctic talon
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only in EPIC

nova scaffold
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and tf is this

storm jungle
nova scaffold
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the green shitfuck8000

spare osprey
arctic talon
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Colossus was guard yeah

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though its not canon? I think?

arctic talon
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I know the capitol imperialis is canon lol

storm jungle
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it got replaced i think

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yeah that lol

arctic talon
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the Capitol Imperialis is a better looking version

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of the idea imo

vagrant fox
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Epic was deeply unserious and very cool

storm jungle
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tbh

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its literally a box

spare osprey
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beautiful

storm jungle
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on treads

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kinda hard to fuck it up

arctic talon
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yeah

nova scaffold
crystal forum
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colossus is mentioned in fall of cadia

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very passingly

arctic talon
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hats the tank

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not the siege engine

nova scaffold
arctic talon
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this fucker

crystal forum
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nah i think it meant the siege things

nova scaffold
crystal forum
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they're described as land behemoths or something

arctic talon
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oh huh

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weird

nova scaffold
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it just vaporized anything

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just gone

arctic talon
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I forgot they turned this poor display mini into an IF mini for heresy lol

dapper gyro
arctic talon
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I think its based on it

crystal forum
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good for you

arctic talon
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maybe

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a lot of the FW vehicles are much more obviously based on something

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lol

crystal forum
storm jungle
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Its better that you know Jay

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just incase

spare osprey
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there's a big uni wars vehicle i wish had art

potent dragon
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@warped lark can rejects become ultramarines?

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if they perform well

spare osprey
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Gun-crawlers? think thas the name

storm jungle
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they arent teenagers

nova scaffold
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ngl i dont like the votaan vehicles because it looks goofy

potent dragon
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merit based

crystal forum
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dilara he clearly asked that specific person

vagrant fox
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too old

storm jungle
crystal forum
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which we have never seen here

arctic talon
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They'll just die

dapper gyro
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They need to be trained from young.

arctic talon
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the process is best done on kids

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or preteens

potent dragon
dapper gyro
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Otherwise, geneseed rejection.

arctic talon
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or very early teens

storm jungle
arctic talon
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besides

potent dragon
arctic talon
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becoming a marine is ass

potent dragon
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there has to be some regulation

storm jungle
arctic talon
nova scaffold
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it looks nothing like warhammer at all

arctic talon
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LOL

potent dragon
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bruh

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we need reforms

vagrant fox
potent dragon
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i vote for new changes

crystal forum
storm jungle
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you do realise like

dapper gyro
storm jungle
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not all of 40k is gothic junkyard explosions right

arctic talon
spare osprey
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even then, they're full of over the top shit

arctic talon
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THEY WILL WORK OR DIE

nova scaffold
spare osprey
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and cultural voo doo

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yay giant ai

crystal forum
storm jungle
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votann are their own culture too

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lol

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so that point makes no sense

nova scaffold
arctic talon
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yeah the LoV splintered off

storm jungle
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they arent imperium

arctic talon
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pre DAOT

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lol

crystal forum
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN STILL

arctic talon
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they aren't humans really

nova scaffold
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they look goofy

arctic talon
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They don't consider themselves human

storm jungle
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It looks fine

dapper gyro
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Votann is kind of human before all of the bad shit happened.

vagrant fox
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It's fine, variety is the spice of life

crystal forum
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very descriptive

dapper gyro
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The current Imperium is backward.

nova scaffold
storm jungle
nova scaffold
dapper gyro
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So they go back to gothic style, while Votann stays stylist.

crystal forum
nova scaffold
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i do like imperium and tau astetics

spare osprey
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not a ratling situation

dapper gyro
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Like, why would Votann put a fucking church on a mech?

spare osprey
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yeah just put a stag on that shit

crystal forum
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votaan literally look like space vikings

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how is that not regressive

warped lark
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but the answer is what other people said like absolutely not lmao

nova scaffold
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tbh im more of a quar fan then warhammer tbh

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because warhammer is expensive and i cant do skin tone

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at all

storm jungle
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🫡

warped lark
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thanks, carry on

crystal forum
storm jungle
potent dragon
potent dragon
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because.

nova scaffold
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like bro thats their thing

potent dragon
crystal forum
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that is not why i complained

potent dragon
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if you offered better healthcare and worker comp

nova scaffold
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like what is wrong with this

potent dragon
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maybe that can solve heretics better than marines can

crystal forum
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the characters are trash

potent dragon
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😭

crystal forum
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i hate cute shit meant to look gruesome

nova scaffold
storm jungle
nova scaffold
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they supose to have long snoot because they eat bugs

crystal forum
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i dont care what they are

nova scaffold
crystal forum
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all of them what dont you understand

potent dragon
nova scaffold
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is basically like hating warhammer because is too much sade of dark even tho you got bunch of factions but you lumped them together

crystal forum
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i wouldn't like warhammer if i hated the aesthetic

storm jungle
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sven ffs just kill him

crystal forum
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and plenty of people hate 40k's aesthetic

nova scaffold
storm jungle
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all the reason you need broski

nova scaffold
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is he racist to ant eaters?

vagrant fox
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I am

storm jungle
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probably, its Jay

nova scaffold
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like hes actually a massive ant

crystal forum
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this person joined 2 days ago and has been talking about fucking multicolored ant eaters non stop

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they dont even know what a votaan is

nova scaffold
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that what a giant ants will say

storm jungle
crystal forum
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ITS 40k RELATED

nova scaffold
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we know your propaganda

storm jungle
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my honest reaction

vagrant fox
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Guard is lame and boring tho

crystal forum
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this bored game is literally guard adjacent

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just look at it

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it just looks worse

nova scaffold
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he just a hater and most likely a 5 ft tall ant pretending to be a human

crystal forum
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you laugh dilara but you won't be in 2 weeks when the chat is still full of this fuckoff game

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quar

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what kind of name even is that

vagrant fox
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That's why the block function exists

nova scaffold
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quar is a species name

storm jungle
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ok Astra Militarum

crystal forum
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guard rules idk what else to say

nova scaffold
vagrant fox
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Space marines are cooler and more lore relevant ☝️ 🤓

crystal forum
nova scaffold
crystal forum
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the guard, notorious for not having tanks, men and artillery all jammed together on the battleground

crystal forum
nocturne crest
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Odd question, but if the genesis chapter are the ultramarines' spare tire, what about 1st founding chapters?

nova scaffold
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like after the horus heresy, the tanks formations are not allowed to mix with infantry

crystal forum
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what's the genesis chapter

crystal forum
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how would that even make sense

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that's some scouring lore type shit

nova scaffold
nocturne crest
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Ultramarine successor chapter that let the ultramarines take their tech marines and space marine pyskers if they need them.

crystal forum
nocturne crest
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Exactly.

nova scaffold
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anyone else not allowed to do so

crystal forum
nova scaffold
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because of paranoid

nocturne crest
# spare osprey wdym

If the Imperial fists or blood angels had a chapter they could take specific members to refill their numbers, who would it be.

crystal forum
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dont dark angels do that for all their successors

spare osprey
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war of the beast

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whole chapter got obliterated, they needed to rebuild from the geneseed and ranks of every one of their successors

nocturne crest
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Nah, they changed that.

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I think, they changed it so that some Imperial fists survived it.

crystal forum
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i hope they change all war of the beast lore

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and make it so it never happened

warped lark
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lol

spare osprey
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least not from anything i've heard

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koorland was the last and then they had to rebuild it

warped lark
vagrant fox
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I don't think other first founding chapters have a whole reserve company in the form of a whole chapter as the Ultramarines do with the Genesis Chapter
Dark Angels is basically just a legion in disguise and the Blood Angels drew neophytes from a bunch of successors

warped lark
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roboute guilliman:

crystal forum
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armageddon didn't need to kill 100000000 space marines to have a convincing ork story

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(it's because guard is more fun)

warped lark
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yeah they like just saying "and then like a billion space marine chapters all lost their lives in the greatest catastophe since the last greatest cataclysm since the great heresy"

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"the emperor is spinning in his grave"

crystal forum
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it's really just the war of the beast that's like that

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for absolutely no plot reason

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the beast is super unimportant in lore

nocturne crest
crystal forum
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we dont even have art of the beast

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like how bad can it get

hallow plover
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Don't you worry it'll come

crystal forum
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god i hope not

hallow plover
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We have the scouring first

crystal forum
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we still need gazgul to come back

vagrant fox
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I could forgive wotb if it was funny but it's not even vaguely

hallow plover
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Then they'll work their way all the way up to the 41st millenium

dapper gyro
crystal forum
dapper gyro
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This is the whole thing with Primaris IF are closer to the OG IF than the "first born" IF.

hallow plover
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Gw has a release plan for the next century

crystal forum
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i do like how everything between the scouring and dark imperium is just completely irrelevant to modern 40k

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like the past 20 years of 40k lore prior to primaris have not mattered

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i joined during 8th so i just dont get it

arctic talon
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The only lore that mattered was all super recent stuff chronologically

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lol

opaque coyote
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God Nihilus sounds so interesting

winter vessel
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from grimdank. Not one who frequents that subreddit, but i did get a kick out of this post

opaque coyote
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also mrs.puff for white scars

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Also this piece of fanart is fucking awesome

By SanshiroIV

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"None shall touch the emperor, not even you!"

dire loom
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@opaque coyote you have something for everything and everyone for all occasions. Lol

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Based

sturdy sedge
dire loom
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Simpler times

winter vessel
# opaque coyote also mrs.puff for white scars

White Scar Chaplain: "The road, boy! get back on the road!" Neophyte: "Gotta pass the test. GOTTA PASS" driving an assault bike with the Chaplain riding in the side car while hitting a dozen chapter serfs

crystal forum
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😪

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imagine having your founding chapter's most distinguishing trait being a type of weapon

opaque coyote
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🖐🏻

tough haven
tough haven
tough haven
opaque coyote
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splitting up the Imperium

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Would allow more interesting factions

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Variations of the Imperium cult

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Xenos like Eldar/T'au go from "minor annoyance in the grand scheme"

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to "oh god they're gonna destroy this entire mini kingdom"

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Since now it's split apart

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I only think the books about Lion attempting to return back actually take place there?

tough haven
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Yeah in my current setting Aeldari and imperium only survive by having a tenuous and clandestine ceasefire between the two races

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Through a rogue trader house

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It isn’t widely known

opaque coyote
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"Okay let's just kill them"

tough haven
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Imperium presence as a whole just thinks they don’t stomp the xenos because we don’t know where they are/bigger fish to fry

opaque coyote
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I think I remember something from the fanfic known as the "All Guardsman Party"

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where they had like an inbetween space between T'au and Imperium space that has a bunch of independent planets.

tough haven
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The situation is even so dire orks have begun to be sanctioned as mercenaries increasingly more frequently

opaque coyote
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And due to the Imperium having bigger fish to fry. The planets are essentially a mix of T'au and Imperium.

tough haven
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Sounds neat

opaque coyote
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With the cultures basically mixing

opaque coyote
tough haven
opaque coyote
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Also the Guardsmen being confused about there being things like... proper food.

tough haven
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They need every bit of help they can

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Haven’t introduced the tau yet

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Mostly cause I haven’t figured out to make them interesting that isn’t Aeldari analogue

opaque coyote
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Like

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Somehow more crazy than the status quo

opaque coyote
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That are still Emperor worshipping

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Just

tough haven
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The shrine world in the system is a shitshow

opaque coyote
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fucking crazy to the point where you can mistake it for a chaos cult

tough haven
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Basically gang warfare all the time

opaque coyote
tough haven
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Food crisis doesn’t help

opaque coyote
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yum yum

tough haven
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Like the nurgle cult that claims to have a remedy for the blight affecting the fish population (it’s a oceanic world)

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The cure is accepting nurgle into your heart so you never need to eat again

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You aren’t cured of hunger however

opaque coyote
tough haven
opaque coyote
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instead of being bloated

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it's skinny zombies basically

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or fast zombie looking mfs

tough haven
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Yup

opaque coyote
tough haven
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The local space marine chapter and sororitas order have just been gunning down everything that’s halfway sus

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But this cult has managed to survive

opaque coyote
tough haven
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Chaos is barely even a threat on the shrine world

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Besides this nurgle cult it’s only minor groups

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But with what you said about cults getting crazier in the nihilus, the genestealer cults are able to easily slip under detection by just appearing as eccentric zealots

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Especially when they continue to wipe out heretical cults for the imperium

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They’re unironically the most active group trying to wipe out the nurglites

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Partially to take out the competition, and partly to exonerate themselves

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Even once the cult is wiped out, they’ll maintain the facade of the cult still existing so they seem useful

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All praise the Monarch Transcendent!

opaque coyote
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for the time being anyways

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i can imagine the sisters definitely being extremely stressed

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"Are they a chaos cult or just fellow zealots?"

tough haven
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Any day

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GSC is far harder to uproot in this instance

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Who knows how far they’ve spread

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Especially since the party refuses to fucking step foot on this worldb

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I get that the necron threat on the forge world is dire, but honestly they’re less immediate once the party halted their current efforts to wake

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That’s not even mentioning the Ork WAAAAGH! That’s currently occupying and consuming the entirety of the only agri world in system

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Shits fucked

opaque coyote
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all they need is a hat

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and now they look exactly like a regular person

tough haven
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Kill all hat havers

opaque coyote
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or a wig

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or idk

tough haven
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Kill anyone with hair

opaque coyote
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actually can't they just cut off their weird uh

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thing?

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idk what to even call it

dapper gyro
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Gsc SoB when?

opaque coyote
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like can't they surgically remove it?

opaque coyote
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honestly

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that sounds like a cool idea

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imagine dual wielding bolters

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with two arms holding one

tough haven
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Here’s my escalation stages for orks

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We’ve reached tier 1.5/2 if the party keeps giving them free reign

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
tough haven
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Orks:
0. Not fightin’ time (yet), The orks are too busy feuding amongst themselves and dealing with defending their hulk from genestealers to be much of a threat to the system.

  1. WAAGH! The orks make their first assault to fix up their hulk and try to pillage gubbins and what not, and krump some Humies along the way! mostly just a few boyz, though it won’t stay that way for long.
  2. WAAAAGH! With their raid successful and their hulk a little bit more Orky, they decide that another planets gotta have the bits they need, and they krumped the first one easy enough! Lots more boyz, an’ more types of em too!
  3. WAAAAAAGH! Now with another piece of their hulk working, they can move! (Sorta) Da Boss uses the hulk to attack yet more worlds and get some proper dakka for ‘is new kroozer! There’s loads and loads of boyz now, and we’z even got enough spare parts to have loads more wagons and tanks and stuff!
  4. WAAAAAAAAAGH! Now that the kroozer has more dakka (could use some more though) we can nearly do a proper WAAAAAGH! We’z got all sorts of gitz now, and loads and loads of all sorts of mek built fings too!
  5. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
    Now that the kroozer is fully built an’ ready to go, we’z can krump the rest of them bugeye boyz, then the rest of the gitz in da system, then go fight whatever’s on the other side of Gork’s Grin!
opaque coyote
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I do want to make some 40k ocs in general

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Had an idea of a Ex-Hospitaller Nurgle Worshipper

tough haven
opaque coyote
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Basically, loved one gets terminal illness

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no cure

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would do any deal

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...

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they get the deal

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loved one still has terminal illness btw, but they're just

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alive

tough haven
opaque coyote
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well "alive"

tough haven
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Necrons:
0. Unawakened, only minor autonomous protocols (prior to events of campaign)

  1. Triggered, proximity alerts and attempted breaches awaken defensive units like wraiths, larger amounts of scarabs, acanthrites and the like, with a few interspersed warriors marked for early awakening in such a scenario.
  2. Stirring, with continued and increased resistance from the planets inhabitants, the tomb complex awakens more of its warriors, along with set elites such as immortals to assess the situation, and begins proper awakening protocols.
  3. Roused, having assessed the situation as dire, with vermin on the planet, the tomb complex begins rolling out proper offensive strikes to defend itself and repel invaders, with more specialized units and possibly vehicles.
  4. Aware, the tomb is nearly fully active now and is repelling invaders with near maximum efficiency, with its near entire complement of units
  5. Awakened, with the tomb fully active and it’s invaders eradicated or rendered neutralized as a threat, the tomb mobilizes its full might to unite the remaining necron forces in the system, and to eradicate the unclean life forms inhabiting it according to the Doctrines of War
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And here’s GSC

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Genestealer Cult:
0. Dormant, the cult lies inactive, lying in wait for the perfect moment to begin

  1. Vector, the cult begins to use propaganda, feigned benevolence, and fervor against enemies of the imperium, to attract adherents and gain favor with the local authorities, the cult will avoid active confrontation at this time but will largely be using simple brood brothers if necessary.
  2. Prodromal, the cult steps up their attempts to integrate higher into the upper ranks of the world, along with the local ecclesiarchy, along with spreading in popularity with the common folk. More pronounced mutations become available, along with more specialized variants.
  3. Infection, the cult has now infiltrated the majority of the planet, and has a firm grip on its people, and is incredibly difficult to root out, powerful monsters such as abberants are present in large numbers, alongside pure strains
  4. Outbreak, The cult has now spread through multiple vectors to several planets and is approaching critical mass and is spreading exponentially, only the most decisive action can halt them now, Purestrains and aberrations are now a common sight in the dark places of such planets
  5. Pandemic, the cult has reached critical mass and is openly revolting in their day of Transcendence, unless eradicated immediately Tyranid incursion will be imminent, all of the cult’s assets are present and active to the fullest extent
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Sorry for the big blocks of text

opaque coyote
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Tyranids come down

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actually that's probably pointless since by that point the whole area is cooked

tough haven
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That’s end of setting pretty much

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If any reach 6 it’s game over

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Or one last desperate chance

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So it’s a balancing act

opaque coyote
tough haven
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Cause time spent on one faction gives the others time to grow strong

opaque coyote
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Due to the cult being confident in their day of transcedence. Their bases are now open and obvious.

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But there is a time limit.

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If you basically pull a mini kryptman on like all of their bases, they go down two stages.

sharp pollen
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i heard lion el jonson is taking some control and he doesnt like what the blue guy is doing

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rbout

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i fucking forgot KEKW_ogryn

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and lion is like taking some land and men, and all

storm jungle
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Hes planet hopping

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so does that count

sharp pollen
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like i should know what that means

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bhopping

storm jungle
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it means hopping from planet to planet

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maybe use some sense

sharp pollen
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well that i know that he does some stuff but why does that matter

storm jungle
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because you mentioned the stuff you assume hes doing

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hence why someone would add to the context

sharp pollen
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youtube lore video

storm jungle
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Get to it, consumer

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🫡

sharp pollen
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that actually could be just a theory, not an info

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i was not listening very carefully so whatever

storm jungle
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checks out

sharp pollen
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but still civil war in the imperium could be interesting

hexed orchid
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Last I heard, the Lion was just happy Gorillaman was alive lol

sharp pollen
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also heard theories about how some primarchs could become again loyal

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dont remember anything tho

celest dome
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The Traitor one ?

sharp pollen
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yes

storm jungle
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Theres not really any presedence for it so

celest dome
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No chance they're damned

storm jungle
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Yeah that

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also like its a huge insult to their chaos fanbase

hexed orchid
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There's been some suggestion that Mortarion might come back but it's massive cope

storm jungle
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Basically yeah

sharp pollen
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yeah, for Mortarion

sour hornet
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Ultra cope

storm jungle
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also no sane Death Guard fan or GW representative would do it, its an awful idea

celest dome
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I'd love to see Mortarion leave Nurgle and become a Primarch of a legion loyal to Isha, but that's Fanfiction realm

hexed orchid
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You know they won't do it because of mini sales

sour hornet
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I hate primarchs coming back because its just a way for GW to jerk off the Imperium for more models

storm jungle
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making a mass murdering chaos primarch into a loyalist one is braindead

sour hornet
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but they gotta bring back chadgatai khan

hexed orchid
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Unless they split him in two or something 🤔

Crazier things have happened

storm jungle
sour hornet
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Tell me about it lmao

storm jungle
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Lmfao real

hexed orchid
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Then they can sell two minis of the same character

storm jungle
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ive been a fan since like the early 2000's so its awful to see

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something-something ruined mah 40k

pine wedge
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the entire galaxy being reduced to "what is this small handful of characters gonna do next???" for the main narrative is a tragedy for sure

sour hornet
#

The whole plague war thing with Guiliman vs. Mortarion reminded me of a DC comic series lmao

storm jungle
#

I thought this was a setting of escapism!!!!

storm jungle
#

its as is Batman is about ot fight Darkseid

#

OH NO WHOS GONNA DIE

#

No one dies

#

DAMN, SHOCKED

sour hornet
#

😭 😭

storm jungle
pine wedge
#

the worst part is that it works. primarch slop sells like crazy, the average customer loves it.

storm jungle
#

Yeah unfortunately this.

#

theres a reason 30k/hh has essentially ruined the fandom

#

people do NOTHING but talk about primarchs

paper haven
#

Batman never kills anyone and never dies

storm jungle
sour hornet
storm jungle
#

Yeah and people still defend it

pine wedge
storm jungle
#

HE LITERALLY GETS RESURRECTED MID-BATTLE

sour hornet
#

its also happened to the khan for no reason

paper haven
storm jungle
sour hornet
#

🥀 🥀 🥀

paper haven
#

Hahaha

storm jungle
#

like

#

Mortarion actually kills the Khan

#

....why?

#

we know hes not gonna die?

#

what are you doing lmao

paper haven
pine wedge
#

wait khan died?

storm jungle
#

SEE

#

lmao

#

also hold on lemme get it

sour hornet
#

When is Mortarion going to kill a primarch and they actually fucking die?kebab

pine wedge
#

never

paper haven
#

Never

sour hornet
#

fighting morty

paper haven
#

Get wrecked morty

pine wedge
#

they killed a primarch once before and i think GW's feelings about the matter are basically

hexed orchid
sour hornet
#

morty straight up kills him with his scythe

storm jungle
paper haven
#

Grey knights, bully that daemon Primarch

storm jungle
#

he spends the rest of the series in a coma

#

and is totally dead-dead

paper haven
#

Nah, he'll be fine

sour hornet
#

they later take khans body back and they revive him

paper haven
#

Warhammer is like Marvel

sour hornet
#

using super DAOT tech

paper haven
#

They never can do anything too drastic

sour hornet
#

"WE CAN REBUILD HIM" ass plotline

#

🥀

paper haven
#

We HaVe ThE tEcHnOlOgY

storm jungle
#

you guys should see him in Era of Ruin

#

he laments over Horus being dead

#

and re-sleeps

pine wedge
paper haven
#

Look how they massacred my boy

pine wedge
#

"nah put rowboat in a stasis field, we'll figure it out 10k years from now."

paper haven
#

Stop thinking

pine wedge
#

but this is dumb, i thought khan just disappeared into the webway or smth

#

why does he suddenly spend some time being dead-dead-not-dead

paper haven
#

Just consume product and get excited for next product

storm jungle
#

^

#

they just temporarily kill him during the siege

#

and then have him be ok before it ends

paper haven
#

It's ten thousand years

#

He can do more than one thing

pine wedge
#

does morty's scythe have special killy killer killing properties? or is it just a scythe

arctic talon
#

He’s in the clown zone

arctic talon
#

But before that it’s just a fancy power scythe lol

sour hornet
#

Its pretty garbage as a weapon. He impales Khan and doesn't kill him permanently, he "kills" G-man with it like twice for no effect.

arctic talon
#

Tbf scythes are awful weapons

#

lol

paper haven
#

The death guy can't kill anyone important

storm jungle
#

dont forget when Garou gets stabbed by it he drags himself up it to stab Mortarion in the neck

???????

#

THATS NOT HOW SCYTHES WORK

arctic talon
#

Writers just think it’s a sword

#

Ig

#

Idfk

sour hornet
#

He also kills a bunch of no-name GK with it, but then just gets ultramogged by Kaldor Draigo

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Mortarion is the #1 jobber of the daemon primarchs

arctic talon
#

lol

storm jungle
#

"almost"

#

he still doesnt

arctic talon
#

No shit

#

Different from draigo instantly obliterating him like in 5e though

pine wedge
#

this is why the loyalist primarchs returning is terrible for the narrative. the whole point of daemon primarchs in the warp and no loyalist primarchs around was emphasizing the precarious position and moral decay and the glory days are definitely over over vibe of the imperium

arctic talon
#

Mortarion exists to job

#

Lll

pine wedge
#

now we have primarch vs primarch novels but nobody can ever die and it's just so pointless.

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

There’s like been 1

#

In modern 40k

sour hornet
#

If I got sent back into the warp with the name of the master of the guy who killed me literally carved until my heart, that would count as losing.

arctic talon
#

I don’t count 30k

#

lol

hexed orchid
sour hornet
#

Not even a primarch vro 🥀 🥀 🥀

arctic talon
#

Ig 2 for Lion vs Angron which is a paragraph in a campaign book

#

Which is just Lion running for his life while everything else shoots at angron

#

lol

#

So I don’t even count that

pine wedge
sour hornet
pine wedge
#

nah g-man and primaris were introduced 18 months ago, tops. get outta here with that.

arctic talon
#

We’ve had 1 primarch v primarch book in 40k

#

Since 8e

#

Nah

#

I know what it feels like to be old

sour hornet
#

The best 40k stories are self contained and about units we dont care about so people can actually die

pine wedge
#

what even is the passage of time

arctic talon
#

You too shall feel the sands of time

pine wedge
#

8 years??? jesus

arctic talon
#

It’s been 10 years since 7e

#

Sorry it’s like 7 and a half years

#

Since primaris

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

Primaris have been around

#

For almost 8 years

#

In any case I think the reception to the

celest dome
#

I don't really care about Primarch cause they mostly take SM fight/books KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
#

Mortarion Guilliman thing in 40k

#

Prolly put GW off from doing more

sour hornet
#

Thankfully

arctic talon
#

Primarch v primarch slop fights novels

sour hornet
#

it pointless when you know people aren't going to die

#

Its just not GWs style

pine wedge
#

lijah cuu killing colm corbec and try again bragg is peak 40k fiction and nobody can tell me otherwise. i was genuinely upset when i read that. like a sinking feeling in my stomach. that's what 40k should be about.

#

just making people feel miserable.

paper haven
#

What's the most recent change that everyone is angry about?

arctic talon
#

I think Lions internal monologue of how screws he is if he tries to fight Angron as he runs from Angron is hilarious

sour hornet
#

they couldn't even kill cadians when the planet exploded

arctic talon
paper haven
#

I can never keep track

arctic talon
#

Ig

#

Idfk

paper haven
arctic talon
#

Terminus decree isn’t a change to lore

#

It’s just an addition to existing lore

pine wedge
arctic talon
#

So that doesn’t count

#

It’s literally just female custodes

pine wedge
#

oh yeah terminus decree is being gigamemed

arctic talon
#

That’s the only retcon in recent history

arctic talon
#

So I don’t count it personally

pine wedge
#

people can be upset about things other than retcons

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

But they said change

pine wedge
#

why is that a criteria

#

lol

arctic talon
#

I take change as retcon

#

Tbh

pine wedge
#

an addition is also a change

arctic talon
#

Not existing lore advancing

sour hornet
# arctic talon Idfk

I began typing something about Eldar lore changes, but started laughing at the idea of the fanbase giving a shit about eldar

pine wedge
#

anything that ever happens is a change

arctic talon
#

And worded like shit

#

Wraithbone becomes physical material

#

Once it materializes in reality

#

The usage of Ore is still shit

#

But eldar don’t need to mine

arctic talon
pine wedge
#

i dont think i ever knew what wraithbone was previously

arctic talon
#

It’s just

pine wedge
#

beyond eldar handwavium

arctic talon
#

Solidified warp stuff

#

That is no longer warp stuff

#

It gets called a psychic “plastic”

#

In any case the wraithbone thing

#

Changed literally nothing

#

If anything I blame the person who leaked the codex cropping like shit

#

And not having the entire chunk of text

#

Which might have been intentional lol

arctic talon
# pine wedge beyond eldar handwavium

Bonesinger sings a specific way -> warp stuff begins crystallizing and solidified -> once enough forms bonesinger sings a specific way again and it becomes an actual physical thing rather then just crystallized warp stuff

median star
arctic talon
#

Tbf they’re like

#

Zombies lol

#

Sentient zombies granted, but there’s something very wrong with them from what little we’ve see

pine wedge
# arctic talon Primarch v primarch ~~slop~~ fights novels

okay fair enough then but i was also thinking about angron's whole arc of omens thing. just anything involving primarchs is immediately a snoozefest because they will never die anyway. but now that i typed that out i realize that important characters never die in general so maybe it doesnt make a difference.

median star
#

nah theyll be fine just uh whatever for the love of the emperor dont let them leave medusa

arctic talon
#

That’s why gathering storm is the only actual campaign book that surprised me

#

Because they just killed actual characters with minis lol

#

But I’m not a fan of named character books generally

#

The new crusade books have been good about avoiding named characters being involved with the plot aside from background stuff mostly

pine wedge
#

right, the minis. i'm mostly a game player and book reader so i approach the setting from a different angle, but having a mini for a cool character only for them to die in the story probably sucks

arctic talon
#

Tbh, it’s fine since GW lets you keep using them

#

Unless the mini is really old

#

Then rip mini

#

Daedoleus the techarcheologist died within the year he was introduced

#

But his mini is still produced by GW

queen laurel
#

sell that sweet sweet plastic crack

arctic talon
#

Though he got hit with a different foul spell, the curse of generification lol

#

A rare spell that mostly occurs in WHFB and AoS

arctic talon
#

But AoS has ironically killed a good bit of named characters

#

In their setting

#

Lady of vines got her goddamn head torn off

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

And the Blades of Khorne dude died

queen laurel
#

you know sylvaneth

arctic talon
#

I think she’s dead man lol

#

They even generified her mini

#

Wait sorry wrong sylvaneth who got their head torn off

queen laurel
median star
#

also i was talkin abt a book where their was a loyalist nightlord that had joined into ravenguard and was fighting alpha legion finally found his name kasati nuon he and an loyalist iron warrior also w the ravenguard then got sent back to terra and presumably died during the siege

arctic talon
#

I was thinking of the arch revenant

#

She also got her head torn off and hasn’t been seen since lol

#

Drunati

#

Who totally wasn’t a dark elf from whfb

#

Ignore the fact she enjoyed impaling people and feeding them to her sprites while they were alive

#

actually that’s just normal sylvaneth behavior

queen laurel
#

That's still not like as insane as Drycha

arctic talon
#

Tbf

#

The fact she felt like she was doing something she did in a past life while doing that

#

Is the only reason I think she might be made out of a dark elf

arctic talon
queen laurel
median star
#

do any of yall agree w the theory sevatar became a grey knight

arctic talon
#

I mean he was a proto GK

#

So imo yes

median star
#

i think itd be funny if not 1 but 2 nightlords were some of the first grey knights

queen laurel
#

fighting

misty vector
#

A little bit of warpstone snuff to calm the nerves

sacred bluff
#

IM FUCKING BUYING

storm jungle
raven stone
#

Interesting note about the Japanese (which, in this case, uses the one written script that borrows a LOT from written Chinese)…or it is simplified Chinese (Damn getting rusty)

#

The term “Primarch” used can be literally read as “Original Base Genetic Tmeplate”

#

The full term is “The Original Base Genetic Template of the 4th Legion”

dapper gyro
median star
sacred ginkgo
#

What (if anything) served as inspiration for the Astronomicon and the Navigators
Just finished reading another thing with “space lighthouse and limited lineage of people who can see it” and I want to know how far the concept can be traced back

median star
#

also mr.pert sure has a lot of gold and decorations to be known as one of the no nonsense kind of guys

sacred ginkgo
#

Neat

storm jungle
#

down to the genetics nonsense, looking like monsters the more they age, people not being able to see their true forms, etc

#

they are one of the more blatant bits of stolen stuff lol

sacred ginkgo
#

What was their reference point thing to navigate by in dune

storm jungle
#

Uhh using spice and travelling wayships which actively mutate them

#

AND having it as a "commerce"

#

thus every human group/house being reliant on them for FTL travel

sacred ginkgo
#

I meant like astronomicon equivalent, or is that from elsewhere

celest dome
#

I'm not sure if there was a Spice Lighthouse

storm jungle
#

The astronomican is pretty original, its just a big lighthouse

sacred ginkgo
#

Neat

#

Just finished reading the entirety of Isles of Emberdark in one sitting (7 hours) and wanted to know where the navigators and space lighthouse thing came from because it also appears there

storm jungle
#

Yeah its not exactly a super niche idea

#

FTL being reliant on some core structure/point is a pretty general sci-fi trope

sacred ginkgo
#

I just wanted to know if there was a specific place to point at for starting the idea

#

Otherwise

#

Amazing book

storm jungle
#

Im alas not that much of a sci-fi nerd to know an origin point

sacred ginkgo
#

I will continue to glaze Brandon Sanderson until I die

median star
storm jungle
raven stone
# median star

Most common and relatable story of adult employed life

#

Even as someone who likes their job

hallow saddle
#

Me

radiant lance
#

How can I become more insufferable?
I want to get into law

#

Should I start using arch Linux too?

misty vector
#

Get a cybertruck

green loom
#

@arctic talon new book from Dominion Gensis guy

shadow plover
#

real shit?

#

interested

wet sandal
#

and a new space wolves book

#

im eating good

green loom
#

Red Talons, Tallarn Leman Russ Crew, and another Night Lord short story

#

Collins is the biggest one here looks like

#

Martyr's Tomb, Eidolon, Helbrecht, Void king etc.

rocky gale
#

"hirsute" Do they have Abnett writing WarCom articles now

queen laurel
#

First the kill team now this

#

Interesting

vagrant fox
#

the woke wins again

queen laurel
vagrant fox
#

back in my day in 4/5e you'd be lucky to see a woman in the background

wet sandal
#

dominion genesis had a female mc as well

vagrant fox
#

I don't know these authors, are they any good?

wet sandal
#

the guy's last name is beer, how bad could he be

#

and his writing is nice too i guess

rocky gale
#

I'm glad she just looks like a regular Necron

#

and not the fandom interpretation of what a female necron looks like

wet sandal
queen laurel
wet sandal
#

i will never forgive the deceiver for this

rocky gale
queen laurel
wet sandal
#

you're the one talking about shagging

#

i just like it when women

queen laurel
#

And well you know old necrons aren't exactly paragons of morality

wet sandal
#

god forbid a man do anything, jeez

queen laurel
wet sandal
#

exactly

storm jungle
#

WHO COMES UP WITH THESE NAMES

#

"Tomb World"

#

what fucking next Necron™ ?

rocky gale
#

points at Krieg

queen laurel
#

"Looks at grotsnik*

wet sandal
#

"but in fact, they were on a... tomb world"

queen laurel
green loom
#

This world is a world of tombs....
A tomb world even...

wet sandal
#

a cemetery celestial body

vagrant fox
#

As it features as the title of the novel, much like novels named after characters I hardly expect the actual tomb world to be in it

hallow saddle
hallow plover
celest dome
#

Didn't we get a book named Forgeworld ?

storm jungle
#

we also got a book named:

#
  • Deathworld
#

and

#
  • Deathworlder
rocky gale
#

"Black Legion" Thousand Sons on the cover, literally unreadable

shadow plover
#

well at least he is in black and gold

celest dome
storm jungle
#

cannot read any of these

#

get these text objects out of my sight!!!!

proven needle
storm jungle
#

yeah 1 Thousand Years or something

#

i think its good that we finally got a mainline novel with a femcron main character

#

most people still dont realise female necrons are a thing lol

rocky gale
#

Has to be one of the most interesting looking cover arts for a 40k novel I've seen, but I've never heard anything about it

proven needle
storm jungle
storm jungle
#

Shut up!!!

storm jungle
#

the author is obsessed with making the Warp/paranormal stuff in his own corner of 40k confusing for the sake of confusing

#

Mid 🗣️

#

all its fans must be lashed on the streets

shadow plover
#

calling something interesting mid, peak dilara..

storm jungle
#

You'd know Mr Spoiler

#

also not taking this from someone that likes 343 Halo

#

kill him!

sacred bluff
#

i worry i won't find a knight/titan novel as good as assassinorum kingmaker

shadow plover
#

I will not listen Infinite slander from someone who likes cod

storm jungle
#

Titan you can

#

Knight uhhh yeah you wont 💀

#

theres barely any Knight stuff out there as is

sacred bluff
#

i read peak too early blubbers

storm jungle
#

😔

sacred bluff
#

what are good titan novels

shadow plover
#

Titanicus

#

(surprise)

sacred bluff
vagrant fox
#

yea titanicus

wet sandal
#

All the knight content is in mechanicus books

shadow plover
#

I do think Mortis is pretty good too, people don't like it for the fact that it is a Titanicus book in the middle of the siege

vagrant fox
#

Priests of Mars has some, I forget if it's good but I don't remember disliking it

sacred bluff
#

i enjoyed mortis far more than people made it out to be

#

definitely not the worst siege book

#

that falls to the lost and the damned

wet sandal
#

Dominios genesis had a knigh pilot as one of the leading characters, Servants of the Machine-God is like half about knights

#

At this point whenever I'm trying to read peak (mechanicus content) I'm annoyed to see knightslop

#

And it's not even that bad, but goddamn I just want mechanicus shit in my mechanicus books

vagrant fox
#

Storm of Iron for titans I think there was one called Warlord also?

#

It'd be nice to see more wack and esoteric mechanicus inner workings in some novels

sacred bluff
#

no more clankers

storm jungle
#

hey

#

clankers are cool

wet sandal
#

I'd be satisfied with more mechanicus books at least being written from a perspective of an actual mechanicus member

sacred bluff
storm jungle
storm jungle
#

Reading Mortis

#

Skip pages every time a knight/titan shows up

wet sandal
#

Trve

storm jungle
#

Im not even memeing

#

made the book way more bearable

#

fucking titan/knightslop

#

Every Knight/Titan book be like:
"UAAAGH THE TITAN/KNIGHT, ITS NOT LISTENING TO MEEEEeeee ok nevermind its under control now."

vagrant fox
#

Entirely valid but the words engine kill are mad cool

storm jungle
#

The amount of mechslop outweighs it

#

"UAAAH CANT CONTROL IT IM GONNA... IMMA.. IM GONNA ADEPTUS TITANUCS AUAGHH-"

languid meadow
#

Sounds like someone can't control it

wet sandal
#

Tbh I would almost like it better if the knight/titan content was bad. Just skip it and be done with it. But half the time it's actually decent, and I'm sort of invested. I don't want to be invested in mecha shit, I want to read more about hexagrammatic noospheric communication

storm jungle
#

Same

#

like it doesnt help that titanslop is SO fucking overhyped in the fandom too

#

giant robots are cool but every single titan novel/chapter is the exact same shit

#

If I gotta hear about how the princeps feels like a giant god controlling a big robot for the 1094045th time im gonna go berserk

wet sandal
#

There's a very easy solution the leading magi have desived some years ago

#

Just ignore the fandom lmao

#

I hear a lot of things about how fans of X and Y are cringe, but it's much less of a problem if you don't interact with them

vagrant fox
#

just don't read as many titan novels 7head

#

I don't particularly care for mechs at all outside of 40k but even then I've only read a few novels with them that I can remember

wet sandal
vagrant fox
#

I'm just talking shit to avoid coursework, it's entirely valid

#

I'd also rather read about noosphere shitposting rather than the same thing over and over

storm jungle
wet sandal
#

i'm managing

storm jungle
#

I go anywhere, its titanslop

#

Also its kinda hard to ignore a fandom im actively in so

wet sandal
vagrant fox
#

It could be worse, you could be browsing grimdank

queen laurel
#

You chose this path witch hunter whatever happens now happens

rocky gale
#

Can't escape it, final episode of Kill Lupercal today

#

I wonder if they'll finally kill him

storm jungle
#

LMAO

vagrant fox
#

definitely this time yea

storm jungle
#

FUCK SAKES

wet sandal
#

"Kill Lupercal"

looks inside
he's alive

vagrant fox
#

Horus was actually killed and the Emperor fought Alpharious 🤓

rocky gale
#

The emperor was just fighting Horus Aximand

storm jungle
#

As a person that has watched the “show” its some of the most empty filler shit imaginable.

Sienna’s VA does a great performance tho

#

But still 3-episode slop

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Oh shit 10 year anniversay of AoS

storm jungle
#

And they stretch it to like 2 months

rocky gale
#

Surprised they're not doing anything special, GW loves special events

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Just looks like a recap

queen laurel
#

Well better than nothing

#

Even if a recap is rather minimal

rocky gale
#

Oh it's a recap of 1st edition, later we'll get a recap of 2nd edition

#

So maybe it will lead to something

#

Recap each edition and then show us something new

queen laurel
vagrant fox
#

disrespectful use of å aos is ruined

rocky gale
#

Bro hates angstrom's

vagrant fox
#

It's just a letter in scandi languages so it goes from misthavn to like misthoouvn

winged jacinth
#

"Armored bulldozer" is its own class of vehicles for combat engineering lol

languid meadow
#

God I hate the killdozer and the people who idolize it

#

"I get all my info from YouTubers and never check anything myself" supremes

winged jacinth
#

"I don't want to redo my sewage system to bring it up to code and connect in the right place better knock down a bunch of buildings then shoot myself"

queen laurel
#

But unfortunately people will be people

winged jacinth
#

Not even justified anger and hatred

#

Libertarian brainrot telling him he shouldn't need to comply with a system's rules to use it

storm jungle
#

You can have a lot more better reasons to hate the government.

#

(they provide plenty)