40k-lore-chat

[golden imp]

So in the realm of khrone. Is training over there just straight up to the death or do they know how to not kill each other when showing them how to fight

[storm jungle]

Its literally hell.

take a guess

[vagrant fox]

it's the coolest realm imaginable, the ground is creatine for you to eat so you can get mad huge from all the fighting exercise you do

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[golden imp]

Well in some of the gaunts ghosts books they were talking about some chaos faction of soldiers and spoke of them as well drilled and disciplined

[storm jungle]

Yeah because they are in the material realm

not super-hell

[golden imp]

Ahh

I’m understanding it now

I was wondering if it was like khrone respawning you after a training fight between too astartes

[storm jungle]

no they are just traitor guard, they train like normal soldiers just with a tinge of chaos

[rocky gale]

Little guy got hands

[queen laurel]

His special ability is just literally

Reasonable crash out

[rocky gale]

and he can revive on death

[queen laurel]

Hey he survived getting devoured by tyranids

If he doesn't have a comeback to life mechanic i would be pissed

[rocky gale]

He hits stronger than Drazhar

[queen laurel]

Okay so this guy is like a melee monster

That you want to carefully shoot because he literally goes closer and closer the more you do

[rocky gale]

Did some checking and he could quiet easily wipe a 5 man squad of Heavy Intercessors in a single attack round.

5 attacks vs 5 models, hits on a 2+, 12 S vs 6 T so wounds on a 2+, -3 AP so their save is 6+ and 3 damage vs 3 wounds.

[raven stone]

…He inherited the 3rd Edition Black Templars trick…

Way back with Codex Armegeddon

The BT advances towards enemy lines when they fail morale lol

[plush mason]

POV: the average beat in a hive city

[raven stone]

https://youtu.be/yX7-FgakFSo?feature=shared

[rose thorn]

omg they gave each of the founding chapters a tag on warcom

[arctic talon]

RAAAAAAH SYLVANETH

[queen laurel]

Oh hey you saw it

[arctic talon]

Most obvious rumor engine in a while

[queen laurel]

You think it's a mage

It looks like it's a staff

[celest dome]

Ghyran Magister for Old World

[arctic talon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

It’ll be sylvaneth trust

It’s got the spiral

[celest dome]

Your greed exceed yourself, it's obviously a new Dwarf faction

[crystal forum]

is that a mole rat

[celest dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1401992025380753619/tumblr_owue0he7k91s1oat1o1_640.webp

[plush mason]

just a giant rat i think

[hallow plover]

Isha model for 40k

[celest dome]

It's a reference on the Cawdor Rat I think

[crystal forum]

terrifying

[hallow plover]

She's out of the basement

[queen laurel]

speaking of, i just found out warhammer fantasy has a nice giant

Halagrundsor the Horrible

this man is goated

[celest dome]

New rpg edition, new stuff

[rose thorn]

I don’t think it’s Sylvaneth, our staffs don’t look like that

[rocky gale]

New Dryads

[celest dome]

Kinda feel Caster-ish

though

Treemenmaybe ?

[crystal forum]

i bet an ogryn would be able to join arbites if they weren't so dumb

although i can imagine a story of an arbites precinct on some remote planet using ogryns as "deputies"

[arctic talon]

RPGs don’t have influence on GW’s release schedule

If it’s empire stuff then it’s out of order

Imo

It’s more likely to be some caster though yeah

[celest dome]

No, was just trying to say that it's new lore, not that it meant that it'll have any bearing on miniature or anything like that

[celest dome]

Arbites don't really value Abhuman, but having Ogryn as auxilia would be fair play

[crystal forum]

cato

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/ShinyGroundon/status/1952743429961564335 Ok I had to see this now you guys have to as well

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[winter vessel]

kinda reminds me of that old pet mobile game where you take care of a triangle shaped creature named POU. but in this case it looks mutated

[queen laurel]

it's just routine for me to see horrible stuff like this

[green loom]

I love my bigot artists fr

[rocky gale]

Artist drama?

[median star]

you think pert does anything besides bed rot on medringard

maybe he learned how to goon

[winter vessel]

Torn between watching two movies today. Either Fantastic Four or The Naked Gun

[tough haven]

Naked gun 100%

[outer wave]

Naked Gun

[prime seal]

if they ever meet again it wouldn't be pretty for cato

[green loom]

Oh wait wth siggy in chat

Crazy

[opaque coyote]

Logo change moment

[raven stone]

All corporations losing their artistic side

Reminds me of that Incredibles meme

[shrewd depot]

GM has murdered their artistic ability

[raven stone]

With all logos being simplified

[opaque coyote]

Enshittification moment

[shrewd depot]

And then shot anyone else who tries

[raven stone]

The only thing remotely artistic left is your freedom to convert and paint

And even then

Don't expect the play rules to accommodate for that

Because TOURNEY WAACs have to milk the system for any win they can...

[prime seal]

shit happened a loooooong time ago

[opaque coyote]

Are you a killing machine that is a Nazi

Or a machine that kills Nazis.

That is the question (tm)

[normal bluff]

What do you all make of guilliman's return, alongside primaris? Think present 40k is going in a good direction?

[prime seal]

if you're mentally sound it stops being one cause you only have 1 answer

[prime seal]

grimdark is when all the heroes come back to fight the big bad

[normal bluff]

Hm

I personally grow in distaste each day no matter how much i try to look the other way

[vagrant fox]

It's more or less the opposite of what I want but what can you do ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[queen laurel]

it was fine but then you know the other returning primarks

ehh

not my favorite choices but what can you do

GW decides what direction the setting goes

At the end of the day it's not that deal breaking

[shrewd depot]

40k, at least in my mind, should haven't an 'end'. The entire point of it is that humanity is stuck in this dark age of scifi, trying to advance that or bring old legends back kinda just makes 40k another boring scifi

[vagrant fox]

As long as I get to play in my sandbox where these things don't matter it's fine

[normal bluff]

It's ultimately this for me but to a greater extent due to the aforementioned growing distaste

[shrewd depot]

What they should do is come out with Warhammer 100k

[celest dome]

That's more Noble-dark than grimdark

[prime seal]

??? didnt you just say it shouldnt have an end?

[normal bluff]

Abandoning dark age plot line and slow burn was not the best, at least imo

Not to mention

Primaris themselves

[shrewd depot]

Exactly, so we fuck off into the future more time than 40k has even existed for and do new shit

[prime seal]

no you dont get it

[queen laurel]

there is always one thing i have put my mind in a fictional setting it is liable to change the whims of the creator and therefore you should be too attached to it

i love warhammer orks and stuff but if they do unnecessary weird Lore change that doesn't really fit my style I can't really do anything about it and just you know accept it and ignore it

[prime seal]

making a 100k would imply and would need the ending to 40k as a base

the base for 40k is the ending of the horus heresy

[shrewd depot]

Just do it Warhammer Fantasy style

You don't need to end 40k

[prime seal]

you could do a warhammer sci fi

issue is

[shrewd depot]

Warhammer is already scifi

[prime seal]

we already have a warhammer sci fi

exactly

so you cant

[shrewd depot]

Warhammer 100k would be like, these factions long after things have ended and begun again. New Gods, new races (though obviously keep humanity) and kinda just evolve the current cast

[prime seal]

way too big

too much stuff to work with

not happening

[shrewd depot]

I mean

[prime seal]

wym i mean

[normal bluff]

Yeah. I guess as someone who absolutely loves past 40k so much it's harder. I find myself saying meh at what it is, just sticking to my classics. I'm content with earlier editions, do not need more. It's like, why would i take interest in new stuff that is simply trying to mimic what once used to be... when i can just have what once used to be. With how large 40k is, it's not like i'll ever have to care about running out of content. Other than that, it's just "I don't agree with where this is going but i have nowhere else to go and i live for this"

[shrewd depot]

Thats why 40k and Age of Sigmar have been going for like, 40 years

You need time to build a universe

[prime seal]

40k has 10 times the content of age of sigmar

[storm jungle]

This basically yeah

[surreal nest]

i can take a guess as to why

[shrewd depot]

Not expecting Warhammer 100k to pop out next year or something lmao

[storm jungle]

warhammer as an IP has survived because it changes

[shrewd depot]

But it was an answer to 'where would you want 40k to go'

[gaunt lily]

sounds like something GW would do to reboot 40k tbh

[storm jungle]

it needs to adapt to the times

and thats been doing pretty good so far lol

[prime seal]

💸

[shrewd depot]

Oh yeh

[surreal nest]

or the fact that 40k has existed for 50 years but sure!

[normal bluff]

I'd say it's done more good for the company itself than the fanbase. But i cannot blame them because well, they will want to make the most profit, and keep relevancy, of course.

[storm jungle]

(or more like its just been around way longer)

[shrewd depot]

People act like 40k has been big its entire life time

[prime seal]

^^^^^^

[shrewd depot]

Nah, this shit only got popular like, 10 years ago or something

Popular in the mainstream sense

[storm jungle]

The "fanbase" kinda thinks itself more important than they really are is the thing. The people who keep warhammer running as an IP aka just pay money and play the tabletop dont care about any of this stuff as an example

its a very long rabbit hole of stuff lol

[surreal nest]

shitty outrage memes??? in my lore chat???

[opaque coyote]

More likely than you think

[normal bluff]

Ehhh kinda? If you like 40k that much you are almost always bound to blow money on GW's merchandise (speaking from experience) but i see your point. At the end of the day though again, it's a sad truth that revolves around money more than passion for the fantasy. And i do like said fanbase being the way it is, i want my franchise to be full of dedicated hobbyists at the end of the day, they give it soul

[shrewd depot]

You can have both.

[storm jungle]

^

[shrewd depot]

One is not mutually exclusive to the other, and Warhammer is actually one of the few IPs that does cater to more than just its core audience

We've got the black library for fucksake

[storm jungle]

Ive been in the hobby for way over 13 years its pretty much always has been that. Hobbyists is what keeps the warhammer settings going, people who read the lore and just kinda complain every 2 weeks dont really contribute anything to the general thing.

[opaque coyote]

But I almost enjoy my self loathing and anger

[surreal nest]

i appreciate warhammer for not appeasing the grifters and just doing things that make them mad (not being racist)

[normal bluff]

Not saying you can't, but GW has admittedly been catering wayyy more to said profits with time. Again, i do not blame them

[queen laurel]

they are a war gaming company first lore maker second

[opaque coyote]

Yeah generally it's mostly the hobbyists that contribute the most

[shrewd depot]

What is killing 40k imo is its shifting toward 'tacticool' Call of Duty style storytelling and design, looking at Primaris and their shitty excess panel lines, and GW's insane desire to murder community projects like cosplay

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah, again its going good/big for a reason. People bitch when a new range GW releases has something other than male miniature heads in it and act like its the end of the world

[surreal nest]

Vast majority of these dumbass outrage glue sniffers don't even participate in the hobby its snoring fest

[storm jungle]

"Let me complain about how the terminus decree is ruining the lore"

Forgets after 2 weeks

also has joined the fandom a month ago

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-gif-26490082

[surreal nest]

40k is dying due to panel lines

[normal bluff]

Of course, but then again lore is a big part of what warhammer is. Although by this point most stuff is built on inconsistencies which is, whatever. Again, not complaining. I find my own place just fine. I only wish i could still physically purchase older products, not having to work so hard for them. (As previously stated, i do stick to much older 40k)

[gaunt lily]

Primaris felt like a soft reboot for spacemarines, in that sense I dont really care because space marines are still space marines with a model refresh, Guillimans return I do like simply because they actually did his return well, his character makes sense and brings a new perspective to the setting thats actually interesting to read
things changed but nothing really changes

[shrewd depot]

Straight up, yes. Its a shift in artstyle, the whole atmosphere of 40k. Primaris and their new vehicles look brand new, they look shiny and futuristic. That is not 40k and not what makes it unique.

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[storm jungle]

It is but again a great portion of the fanbase are just here for tabletop, the lore changing largely means nothing to them, the Primaris shakeup was very big but people have just entirely moved over it at this point, and I say this as someone that absolutely dislikes them lol

[normal bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[shrewd depot]

40k's entire deal is that its a hyper advanced universe being run by backwards savages and zealots.

[storm jungle]

most just accept the "Eh whatever i dont care" mindset at this rate

[surreal nest]

I think you can be unhappy with the new changes without thinking it's collapsing the franchise but ok

[storm jungle]

^

basically this

Primaris are not great but unfortunately people buy them. A lot.

[surreal nest]

Really can't agree with 40k being anywhere near killed or dying in any word at all

[storm jungle]

so it has clearly worked

[shrewd depot]

I mean, the bigger issue is quite clearly the fucking cease and desist orders going out to cosplayers and community members

Rather than the fucking panel lines

[queen laurel]

They are still making them to this day so they are making Moolah with it

[celest dome]

Primaris was wanted by the miniature artist iirc

[storm jungle]

its the same as how how Warhammer Fantasy being have to be killed years ago because it very much was just a useless money sink

[surreal nest]

You said it not me

[normal bluff]

You are just like me then. It's fine though we still find our own place regardless, 30k is big enough, and i still have my holy 4th edition BT codex at the end of the day

[shrewd depot]

Yes, and clearly you didn't realise that one was more important to keeping 40k healthy than the other

[rocky gale]

It's kinda ridiculous to say Primaris killed/is killing 40k when GW is reaching record profits for like the 10th year in a row

[queen laurel]

And people still get mad at aos ignoring that fact too

It was a dying setting

[shrewd depot]

Killing 40k =/= lossing GW money

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^

Warhammer has never been more popular/mainstream

[shrewd depot]

GW has done a fucking Class A job of making money

[rocky gale]

More money means more people are buying, which means it's not dieing

[surreal nest]

So in other words they arent dying

[shrewd depot]

And making itself completely safe and boring

[storm jungle]

I wouldnt really say that

[normal bluff]

On one end, streamlining is the death of a niche

[celest dome]

And people like to ignore that before there was no plan for an AoS, when Storm of Chaos happened it was it, they were planning on shelving the fantasy side and letting it to rest

[storm jungle]

Its really not

40k is still the same as it was tbh

now you just got more toys at the forefront

(which was basically how it was back then too)

[queen laurel]

Unfortunately the fans made grimgor kick archeon in the nards

[surreal nest]

I generally don't appreciate the new warhammer fans that just play the video games and try to argue the lore

It actually gets me frothing

[shrewd depot]

So: The thing that got me into 40k was the design of the Space Marine. This fucking weirdly proportioned ass dude with full on shields as shoulder pads, wielding this ridiculously chunky gun and shouting the most insane bullshit I've ever heard

[normal bluff]

Community wise? Definitely not imo, tabletop yes, lore and design, ehhhhh? Not really

[shrewd depot]

Now I get this Halo Spartan ass motherfucker talking about tactical elements n' shit

[storm jungle]

The community is still the same tbh

you got

new fans

nice fans

[surreal nest]

Old man angrily yells at sky now that his miniatures dont have vomit inducing proportions

[queen laurel]

i was gonna go new fans nice fans kanye west but that works

[shrewd depot]

I'm 25 lmao

[storm jungle]

25 is pretty old

im sorry mister

(im 32)

[shrewd depot]

But nah like

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-rock-angry-upset-furious-mad-gif-15028253

[celest dome]

decrepit

[normal bluff]

These ones are EVERYWHERE but i guess GW made it that way

[queen laurel]

says the lady older than the administrator in team fortress

[shrewd depot]

Every science fiction universe can be this ultra clean, futuristic style that just blends into one another

40k doesn't have that, and GW is trying to make it so

[opaque coyote]

We can all agree that GW killing community projects is something to actually be outraged about

"YOU WANT TO DRESS UP AS A GUARDSMAN?"

BLAM

[storm jungle]

Well yeah obviously, they are what brings them in mostly

[storm jungle]

Okay so

this is just absolutely wrong, they arent

thats just the primaris

40k still has a very fuck ugly gothic style

[shrewd depot]

Show me a gothic Primaris unit

[surreal nest]

the new warhammer plus miniatures are a good example

[spare osprey]

Yeah I see ppl complain about 40k’s style nowadays

Especially the art

And I’m like

[normal bluff]

Hot take: Firstborn porportions are amazing, people forget that FB figurines are not scaled well.

[spare osprey]

Have you ever owned a recent codex

Like the art nowadays is AMAZING

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats john blanche

[shrewd depot]

Clean and sanitary VS chaotic and gothic

[storm jungle]

firstborn also had ugly clean art in the past too

lemme get it

[normal bluff]

My beloved

[surreal nest]

that teardrop goes hard

[shrewd depot]

Proportions are wjhatever really, just keep the shoulder pads fucking massive

[storm jungle]

Also primaris

[spare osprey]

It really is just the minis im ngl

Like DA primaris art is gorgeously detailed

[shrewd depot]

This is vibing with the old stuff a little, I'll agree

[surreal nest]

crazy art

[normal bluff]

Speaking of, the newer DA models could be worse honestly

Let me show you one second

[storm jungle]

🗣️

[normal bluff]

Got this yesterday

[storm jungle]

CINEMA

[surreal nest]

new dark angles are so good

[shrewd depot]

Cleeeaaan marines

[surreal nest]

ANGLES

[shrewd depot]

Where are my fucking incense and robes

Where's my war trophies and skulls

[storm jungle]

[normal bluff]

BT and DA have been my go to forever

[shrewd depot]

Where's the Stuff

[shrewd depot]

Yes, I already said that one was good

[surreal nest]

Not every space marine is going to be a trophy case lol

[shrewd depot]

Because it has Stuff

[languid meadow]

God I love 8th edition art

[shrewd depot]

Literally every marine should be a walking shrine

That is the entire point of this universe

[surreal nest]

No it isn't what

[shrewd depot]

They perform pointless ceremoniously to put on the fucking armour

[surreal nest]

There's so many chapters that don't even like unnecessary adornments are they anti warhammer

[normal bluff]

Disagree here, if everyone was a walking shrine the idea of veterancy and valour rewards would be ruined

[normal bluff]

Iron hands the most blaring obvious

Anyways thing is

[surreal nest]

raptors my beloved

[shrewd depot]

See: But Ironhands have other things going on

[normal bluff]

Yes walking shrines but walking shrines when they earn it

[shrewd depot]

They have fucking insane mechanical shit and wires going on

[rocky gale]

The setting is clean and non-gothic now guys

[normal bluff]

Captains, chapter champions

[storm jungle]

PEAK.

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

excellent choices

[surreal nest]

I LOVE THE CADIA STANDS ART

i have the box right next to me

[storm jungle]

thats one of my favs

it makes the guard look like freaks/monsters

[shrewd depot]

Top right and bottom right are dogwater

[storm jungle]

YOU

[spare osprey]

Death

Execution

[storm jungle]

YOU CALL THE GSC 9TH EDITION ART DOGWATER?

[storm jungle]

bro

someone execute this man

[rocky gale]

Bait

[shrewd depot]

Genestealers are w/e, they aren't my vibe but the art isn't actually that bad

[winter vessel]

I still like how they maintain its gruesomeness but it’s more vibrant with the color

[shrewd depot]

Bottom right however is actually the smoothest thing I've ever seen

Where is the texture

[gaunt lily]

reject modern gothic aesthetic, return to the real old style of 40k art

[spare osprey]

[shrewd depot]

And those are sisters of battle right there, where the fuck is their stuff

[surreal nest]

I got my cadia stands box for 70 bucks unopened

that artwork gave me tears

flashbacks

[storm jungle]

Lewis Jones is a god

love my spikes

place them everywhere, at once

[gaunt lily]

best codex i never used

[shrewd depot]

I don't know what you guys aren't seeing when I look at old 40k and new stuff

There's a 'blur' there's a mess to it

New 40k is just too like... Iunno, well made???

[surreal nest]

ok literally same

hard cover copy and I never used it

thanks GW for releasing cadians at the end of 9th

[shrewd depot]

Not being able to tell what half the shit hanging off a marine's waist is, is kinda better than being able to pick out every type of grenade and piece of equipment

Iunno, I think thats what I prefer

[storm jungle]

but like

[queen laurel]

You're the type of guy that has a very specific standards that is like contrary to most people, but saying the setting is losing its main charm just off of that is rather

[storm jungle]

they cannot detail all that stuff

its a waste of time lol

[surreal nest]

I don't enjoy an over designed marine

[storm jungle]

(this is a thing in old 40k art too)

Its way better to be stylistic

[surreal nest]

this goes hard

[shrewd depot]

Thats probably more apt to what I'm trying to say:

Old 40k has style

New 40k simply doesn't imo

[surreal nest]

its a good thing we are allowed to have opinions even if they're not backed by reason ❤️

[shrewd depot]

At least when it comes to the mainline shit, the Primaris n' all their new stuff

[storm jungle]

It deffo does

[storm jungle]

its just a matter of cherrypicking

like I said old 40k art also had very basic bad artworks

[gaunt lily]

tbf im not entirely sure what youre arguing, if youre arguing art then thats down to the artist more than the decade, weve seen enough examples posted of clean and gritty art from all over the place

[surreal nest]

thousand sons 10th codex anyone?

[opaque coyote]

That one picture of Horus that had him looking like a Ogryn

[queen laurel]

boy do we know

[storm jungle]

THE GOAT

🗣️

im not a fan of all the 10th edition codex covers

but some still slap

(its hard to beat 9th edition)

[surreal nest]

fuck the astra militarum one

[storm jungle]

god I hate that one

[surreal nest]

I don't understand why GW decided to give Krieg degens an entire codex and battleforce its bullshit

[storm jungle]

"Lets just slap krieg running to the side on it"

[queen laurel]

They also do not hold back with novel covers

[storm jungle]

$$$

Unfortunately lol

krieg slop sells

one of the worst codex covers ive seen

[surreal nest]

literally

its just slop perfect description

[storm jungle]

^

Krieg deffo made them tons of money with the releases

its prob why they all got their own unique units and shit

the fucking fat bastard

[shrewd depot]

That covers bad but Krieg do have a cool look to them

[surreal nest]

amazing to see my GENERALIZED CADIAN ARMY get zero new units and it all goes to some fuckass SIDE REGIMENT

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-arrgh-mr-krabs-flying-dutchman-treasure-hunt-gif-10613794766816553895

[queen laurel]

You have to admit though the miniatures slap like if I say they don't I am lying to myself

[surreal nest]

I love the krieg engineers I wont front

[shrewd depot]

I mean, isn't that the point? Cadians are the 'basic' regiment that all others follow, then you get special ones like Krieg

What could you add to Cadians that wouldn't be used by a specialised regiment instead

[surreal nest]

Yeah so its crazy that THE astra militarum got nothing but Krieg got everything

[shrewd depot]

I mean

[surreal nest]

krieg should have been their own army

[shrewd depot]

Thats... Silly?

They're IG

[surreal nest]

imagine if a big space marine release codex came out and it was all blood angels reveals

[shrewd depot]

Didn't we get that? I distinctly remember Blood Angels being the only fucking chapter for a while

[surreal nest]

Not at all

[shrewd depot]

Or was that just all other media

[surreal nest]

I mean the whole general reveal for the space marine line

[gaunt lily]

tbf ive seen some pretty cool cadian conversions of kreig units like these cadian engineers

[surreal nest]

krieg should have been their own reveal, not the entire guardsmen

[surreal nest]

These go so hard

[storm jungle]

Killkillkill!!!

[queen laurel]

Space marines get codex supplements which are basically just an army subclass so krieg could just be that

[shrewd depot]

Wait so fuuucking no other regiments got anything? The Catachans n' shit?

[shrewd depot]

Yeh but they're a 'new' army right? They share rules?

[surreal nest]

It was literally just a krieg reveal for the "astra militarum" grand reveal

[shrewd depot]

Thats weak of GW

[surreal nest]

So basically we normal not krieg slop heads got no new toys

but we got that new temptus scion killteam so its okay i guess

[shrewd depot]

Exceeeeept you can play the Krieg units in your regular army?

[surreal nest]

It doesnt look right to me

[shrewd depot]

Because Krieg isn't a separate army with different rules?

Right?

[surreal nest]

i think they have their own detachment

[queen laurel]

they are marines but they have their own rules their own models you will basically play them as a different army

[shrewd depot]

Like I don't play table top, I just collect the minis, but isn't that the point?

[surreal nest]

but its astra militarum overall

krieg artstyle just conflicts with imperial guard as a whole

[shrewd depot]

See this is where I'm probably like, 3 editions out of date on half correct information

[shrewd depot]

Astra Militarum's artstyle maybe

Not IG

[opaque coyote]

We taught an eldar the intricacy of running the Imperium and he killed himself!

[surreal nest]

ah the same thing twice

[shrewd depot]

And I do view them as different entities after the name change lmao

[opaque coyote]

Why is there a cat and a dog

[shrewd depot]

I forget why they did that, was it because of Japan?

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/2nmSHpFLjew?si=aTxdooPAyZ3M5EbB hell people literally run them as a separate army

[gaunt lily]

a lot of people collecting imperial guard like to make their own regiment, so having a bunch of guys from a clearly different regiment be 1/3rd of your army can be annoying

that said ive always considered guard to be non specific, my take the cadian/catachan/krieg datasheets is that they are just archetypes and theres nothing stopping you from convering equivelents that fit your regiments aesthetic... except time and effort and money

[queen laurel]

because they are treated as a separate army

[shrewd depot]

Exactly

[gaunt lily]

it would be like having 1/3rd of your space marines be painted like a different chapter

[shrewd depot]

Just convert the Krieg models into regular IG

Keep the equipment or whatever thats required to run them as the unit

[surreal nest]

I agree with that 100%, that was definitely their intention and people get blown up over their dumbass niche little regiments not getting personalized units

not you

[surreal nest]

i meant this

i disagree with you heavily i will not buy krieg

[shrewd depot]

https://tenor.com/view/math-confused-gif-21641306

[surreal nest]

i bought krieg once and cut them to pieces and turned them into Valhallans

[rose thorn]

[gaunt lily]

i dont think ill ever have a model in my army i wont have taken a tiny saw and greenstuff too lmao

[surreal nest]

noble

[shrewd depot]

I've always kinda felt like 40k was just barbie's for boys

[surreal nest]

but my one attempt at green stuff sculpting made me mad so I stopped

[shrewd depot]

Like I paint my figures how I like, put on the weapons and armour I want

[queen laurel]

yes Mags i know you pop a vein every time space wolves are mentioned no worries i get it

[storm jungle]

It basically was, 40k for a long time was heavily marketed largley towards boys with the "big men with big guns" stuff

[gaunt lily]

tbf when i say greenstuff, its mostly gap filling and smoothing over hack jobs

[opaque coyote]

40k is worse because there is no Ken

Kenough is Kenough

[surreal nest]

Fair very fair

[shrewd depot]

False

Sly Marbo

[opaque coyote]

Fair point

[surreal nest]

I greenstuffed ushankas and scarfs and I cant fucking stand it

[opaque coyote]

Although tbh, I think MLP makes more sense

[shrewd depot]

Tru

Truuuu

[opaque coyote]

Since there is apparently severe racism in MLP

[shrewd depot]

Wait fuck

[opaque coyote]

Like

In lore

[shrewd depot]

I have a chaos star tattoo

Is that my fucking cutie mark

[surreal nest]

i believe it in the fanbase as well truthfully

[shrewd depot]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-art-caida-ultramundo-inframundo-gif-18751034

[opaque coyote]

The fucking multi-colored ponies were so racist that they literally created evil spirits

[rocky gale]

Sanguinius is Kenough

[opaque coyote]

Apparently that is actual lore

[gaunt lily]

pete the wargamer made it look so easy

[opaque coyote]

Hmmm

You do make a fair point

[rocky gale]

"Not because I can win, but because it is right"

[surreal nest]

No seriously he really did. But the worst part is I was following his video for the NEW cadian heads

so i was like why the fuck are his head sculpts so big

[rocky gale]

Is basically "I'm Kenough"

[queen laurel]

larmoth i found this basic ass meme somewhere, is this accurate

[rocky gale]

Sounds terrible for the economy

[queen laurel]

incorrect then

[opaque coyote]

He was a T'au boy

She was a Drukhari girl...

[rocky gale]

Reminds me, I saw an absolutely baller Drukhari OC earlier

[queen laurel]

jesus

[rocky gale]

OC by The Pale Duke, Art by Bella Bergolts

[queen laurel]

that is cool

[gaunt lily]

the imperium doesnt want you to know this but the slaves on their planets are free, you can just take them home, i have 458 slaves

[opaque coyote]

Bro is aura farming

Also...

[winter vessel]

apparently the woman who started the whole Primarch Girlfriend movement on Grimdank a couple months back has cancer.

[opaque coyote]

Oh damn fr?

That's actually sad

[queen laurel]

why am i not suprised all, Lunty

[winter vessel]

yeah. ill see if i can find the post.

[queen laurel]

yes Lunty is my nickname for you

[winter vessel]

https://www.reddit.com/user/Sweet_older-Sister/comments/1mi7gk3/cancer_won/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

damn shame

[opaque coyote]

Lunty Da Teethsmasha

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this just

...

I don't really know what exactly to say this shit is just sad

[queen laurel]

That's all you have to say

[winter vessel]

the entirety of the Primarch GF discord server are sending their condolences to her. Truly an awful way to go

[queen laurel]

no fluff no extra no nothing it's sad and unfortunate

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[surreal nest]

probably the most depressing thing I have ever read. Speaking in past tense of the life they lived is soul wrenching

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/alone-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-sad-coffee-alone-gif-9534162778223036968

[spare osprey]

took me a sec to find it and only in horrid quality

better quality but cuts off a ton

[shrewd depot]

Das very good

Wish it was black in the top and bottom instead of white, but I do like that

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/naocara-gif-951861008809332010

he doesn't say hell yeah once in this scene why is this a gif

[vagrant fox]

here's also some radass art

[fervent gull]

Is this an ork pilot?

[queen laurel]

Nope

[fervent gull]

What is it?

[queen laurel]

Hey sigcheese what is this art about

[storm jungle]

Im 99% sure its a marine

[vagrant fox]

Adeptus Titanicus 1988 I believe

my brain don't work

[fervent gull]

Is this a chaos titan crewman?

He does look anything but human

[vagrant fox]

Wil Rees art just sort of looks like that

[storm jungle]

Not enough fleshy bits

its definitely Imperium

reminder that Imperials can have about as many fuck ugly techno-nightmare design gimmicks

[queen laurel]

Yeah many of them can look like a tangled up back wiring of a computer

[fervent gull]

Doesnt heretecs also share the view of flesh is weak as admech?

[storm jungle]

Depends on the person

[fervent gull]

Its funny we can pinpoint a character's faction just by his nightmarish state

[storm jungle]

Yep

the Inquisition has some really good freaky artworks like this, hold on

[fervent gull]

Inquisition always humours us

Lets see

[storm jungle]

theres some real freaky shit in these pics

[fervent gull]

Average tuesday for the inquisition I guess

I can smell the pictures

Also dilara maybe you know this

I dont use vpn rn but I can use discord strangely

You know anything about it?

[storm jungle]

Honestly I dont, im so used to opening a VPN whenever i boot my PC up that im not sure if they've removed the bans still yet or not

I asusme if they did they'd announce it but 💀

[fervent gull]

No no the ban is still valid

[vagrant fox]

big fan of this one, the juxtaposition of the bottom left to the grandiosity of everything else 🤙

[fervent gull]

But I cant still understand how I can log into discord without vpn

[storm jungle]

Yeah then its very likely a bug

remember the turkish government really doesnt do these things properly

its why we can bypass it so easily

[fervent gull]

My wi fi found a bug hell yeah 🤙

[storm jungle]

The regiment banner bearers kneeling on the right is great, I like how the yeven cheekily added a Tanith guy on the right lol

[storm jungle]

IT MIGHT unfuck itself so just keep that in mind

because ive seen what you mean happen a few times

[fervent gull]

Oh yeah I forgot about today's news... they dont have a good security dont they

[fervent gull]

Hope it doesnt soon

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a regular thing

it was the same deal when they also blocked other social media sites in the past

people just bypass them through very simple or rudimentary means

[fervent gull]

Is the one with the banner a guardsman?

And where is he in that picture?

[storm jungle]

Yeah notice the dude on the far upper left

they are basically kneeling in a procession of other regiments in like some honor ritual

as for the tanith guy its THE rightest dude on the bottom right

[fervent gull]

Why are they kneeling to that guy?

[storm jungle]

Probably some important military figure/bigshot

so they are basically honoring themselves with their regiment flags while waiting for his word or something, its just background art so we dont have the full context but you can mostly get that meaning out of it

[fervent gull]

Do regiment banner bearers do this often?

[storm jungle]

Yeah a regiment banner is a very important thing, its entirely for morale/their culture essentially

Almos tall armies in history (even now) do it

[fervent gull]

RAAAAAAAAAH

[storm jungle]

[fervent gull]

But I havent seen this one

Wonder what those lines mean

[fervent gull]

I had seen on ultramarines movie that company banner had a lightning effect when encountered with a daemon, does IG regiment banner also can make something like that?

Or like a buff item on an rpg game

[storm jungle]

Uhh I THINK so? 40k is filled with magic bullshit so it wouldnt surprise me

[fervent gull]

Imagine if the banner bearer used the banner like the flag on helldivers 2

It would be sick

[storm jungle]

Yeah that has happened in lore dont worry

[fervent gull]

Holy shit

The chad banner bearer on my imagination is lore cannon

Cool

[vagrant fox]

Man it's nice seeing Karl Kopinski recovering from his stroke, his art is just about as good as ever

[storm jungle]

Same, its always good to see

the support he got helped too i hope lol

[rocky gale]

Damn did you guys get hit with a bullshit ban as well?

[storm jungle]

Yeah ours 🇹🇷 was over "We gotta protect kids"

[rocky gale]

Same

[storm jungle]

lmao

[rocky gale]

Now we need to provide photographic ID to access anything that could be considered "Adult"

[storm jungle]

Yeah ours isnt that bad because like I said above the Turkish government is very lazy with bans.

We just boot a VPN and its done lol

[rocky gale]

We can do the same, but because people are doing that the government is talking about trying to ban VPN's

[outer wave]

Been hearing about talk of banning VPNs yeah

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

these fucking Suits man

[rocky gale]

and we've had members of the government going on the news and saying if you're using a VPN you support pedophiles

[outer wave]

Thats wild

[rocky gale]

Wild times

[outer wave]

I wonder if things like Tor Browser can bypass that

[storm jungle]

The cope is insane

[rocky gale]

Petition to overturn the Ban has almost 500k signatures and the government response was "We don't plan on doing that"

[static wren]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

engerland

[rocky gale]

I'm not English

[static wren]

not engerland

[vagrant fox]

Danish politicians keep pushing for banning encrypted messaging apps and chat surveillance, then it gets shot down and then they try again
it's making me cringe

[rocky gale]

Although it is English rules

[gaunt lily]

tbf the response was to 10k signatures, 100k means it gets debated in parliment which they havent had a chance to do yet

[rocky gale]

I'm in the part of Ireland that England still owns

[gaunt lily]

500k means they should have a good idea of how people are going to vote if they dont do something about it

[storm jungle]

Lets be honest

even if it did, they'd still ignore/deny the notion

[rocky gale]

It's the fact every party in the UK opposes the Ban except Labour and the Tory's

[gaunt lily]

its just funny seeing just about every other party slap repealing it on their manefestos

[rocky gale]

Labour could have easily ditched this because it was a Tory law that was passed, but they didn't

They're just allergic to being popular

[gaunt lily]

unironically

they need to learn to not die on stupid hills

[outer wave]

Why is it that popular parties always go:

Best option but decide on dumb actions rather than what the people want.
Unironically not good for anyone but the top 1%.

[static wren]

I think you answered your question

[gaunt lily]

tbf in this case it was an internet law written by old people, it was never going to be good

[outer wave]

Ngl current day is I think the time Ive seen the most hatred for the 1% and the government

[young pecan]

And it's only getting higher, thank fuck

[outer wave]

True!!!

But it needs to be directed properly IMO because Im sure people on the right also hate the 1%, but are usually thrown at anyone else but the right kinds of people

[hexed sluice]

yo! any lore experts awake? Got a question about Necromundan Scalies. Specifically, are they brutes, or are they semi-agile?

[outer wave]

I think Cacti would know this, but not sure if he's awake

That said, Im sort of leaning to the former with this

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Scalies

[young pecan]

They hate the 1% except for the 1% that hates da librals

Soooo not reaaaaally

It does need to be directed well though

[hexed sluice]

Thanks! I am sort of considering trying ask for Scalies as another DLC class, if only so that we could have access to Necromundan style weaponry

[outer wave]

Kinda, but they're being directed away from the actual ones that are causing today's issues and just sending them to the lesser 1%ers, or ones that sort of represent what the people would like to see

[outer wave]

Dont see why we wouldnt have access to some of the necromundan weaponry, it could come out with Fall's update

[young pecan]

I think it's okay to be upset at multiple different ones

Like yeah, Sydney Sweeney isn't particularly influential or impactful, but she still made a dogwhistle ad as a registered Repub.

I think public shaming sends a good message that it isn't tolerated by anyone with any media literacy at all

[outer wave]

True true

I cant see most of the shit coming out now being sustainable in the long run, whether US government related or UK or otherwise

[nova scaffold]

nothing funnier than the emperor of man is the only person defending the football pads

[nocturne crest]

Thing is, the people in the government use VPN as well, and they claim it's a public expense, meaning taxes pay for it.

[storm jungle]

Oh nah yeah if theres any bigger hypocrite following a ban of anything in a country its the politicians lol

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that anybody talking against it

They're just accused of being a pedophile

Wanting privacy == YOU WANT TO TOUCH CHILDREN

Also the fact that banning VPNs are uh

[storm jungle]

It goes far back yeah

[opaque coyote]

Well China, even with it's gigantic ass internet firewall, can't do it.

[storm jungle]

"WE ARE BANNING ALCOHOL."

Cue every politician stocking up on wine/whiskey

[opaque coyote]

On a lighter news

This is totally how it works bro trust me

I got it from James Workshop himself

I actually like the redesign for the "Saturnine" (technically not a redesign if you're a snob but eh)

Still stupid looking but in a better way if that makes sense

Sometimes there is gear that is good

But looks kinda dumb

Or just is dumb and looks dumb

[nova scaffold]

remember when the law is supposed to protect children and yet you got police bullying civilians for talking about thier experience?

[dapper gyro]

Hot take, I like gravis armour more than terminator armour.

[nova scaffold]

i imagine the Drukhari bully a Saturnine armor users by being on thier black

basically like putting sticky notes on a body builders back

thier desperate solutions for to get them off their back is just be a whomp

it probably killed the Drukhari

but its stuck

[dapper gyro]

Visa refusing "adult" payment might not hold for long considering a not insignificant amount of money they made from adult content.

It would be like Tumblr and Only fans when they said they would stop adult content all over again.

Because despite everything, this society runs on money.

[nova scaffold]

visa meanwhile literally do nothing with all the zoo and CP stuff happening for Long time exposed by whistleblower

like they do all that to "protect the brand"

basically unfair rules

[nocturne crest]

Iirc, even Rockstar has said they might be looking at alternative pay processors because of this shit with Visa and Mastercard.

[crystal forum]

you cant win against money

[nova scaffold]

atlease they getting karma

like they are buckling from the pressure

hopefully the backtrack

[crystal forum]

they aren't

it's international payment processors not some small company

[nova scaffold]

the Japanese government and the us government gonna punish them

[crystal forum]

they wont

especially not the US

this is the banking industry

[nova scaffold]

any moment if the credit card company is pushing too far

or else the ceo is gonna experience what the ceo of United healthcare did

[crystal forum]

visa has been sued more times than i can count

and lost many times

they do not care

they just pay the millions in court fees and keep doing what they do

[nova scaffold]

have hope

[crystal forum]

you literally cant win against the banking industry

nobody can

[outer wave]

You gotta do a tremendous amount to win against banking companies

[nova scaffold]

if a small group of sad pedophile who claimed to be "feminist" cause many games to be gone from massive gaming sites them thousand of gamers nonstop pressure will

[outer wave]

I dont doubt that, but issue is that those groups are likely funded by some fellows

Which is probably(?) why they had any influence

We as a people are pretty divided right now and its pretty hard to have influence monetary wise when we cant really trust one another

[nova scaffold]

can we talk about something in lighter topic

like quar

[opaque coyote]

Probably but tbh Saturnine looks like something you'd use in defense

Like you're defending a base

Got a Saturnine SM in the middle of the hallway. The fuck would you do?

[crystal forum]

you're the one who brought up the topic

[nova scaffold]

oh

sorry

[opaque coyote]

Fucking nothing unless if you've got a god damn plasma gun

[outer wave]

Its a cynical take and thats coming from someone that wants to believe in people. People are starting to turn away a bit from the big wig propaganda stuff, but it'll take more.

[opaque coyote]

And good luck trying to get a shot off while you're suppressed by DAKKA

[opaque coyote]

I feel like America rn is a powder keg waiting to explode

[crystal forum]

i hope america stops existing

[opaque coyote]

The more cynical side of me wants it to explode already.

But also I like having things like

Food and a consistent living area

[outer wave]

It wont last the way its going for sure

Which might be for the better in some aspects? Assuming it doesnt get innocents killed in the process

[opaque coyote]

Either way, we got the lamest Dystopia

[outer wave]

But it likely will

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Our fucking gestapo equivalent look like jackasses

Where's the cybernetics

Or the power armor?

[crystal forum]

what's with the sudden doomerism. the loss of zorn games on steam wont be the death nail of civilization

[outer wave]

Yeah they cant fascist very well

Anyway, definitely look on the bright things in life, because there's many good things happening right now.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that part won't be the end or anything.

But it is however, very fucking lame.

[outer wave]

Its hard I realize

[nova scaffold]

yall wanna hear about easky?

[crystal forum]

no

[opaque coyote]

Fuck it sure

Info dump that shit

We're all autistic here it's 40k

[vagrant fox]

I have a different diagnosis ☝️ 🤓

[opaque coyote]

My psychologist unironically said that every person he saw play DnD or any tabletop was likely to have autism

[crystal forum]

alcoholism

[opaque coyote]

And ngl

He's probably right

[outer wave]

He's definitely right

[vagrant fox]

I haven't had any alcohol in months I'm cured

[nova scaffold]

BASICALLY easky is a liberated land that was a monarchy but it was liberated by the crusade and become a strong fighting force during the fidwog FOD western campaign

[crystal forum]

can we talk about trench crusade instead for the love of god

this is so lame

[nova scaffold]

its effective due to they utilized conbine arm

[nova scaffold]

no

[vagrant fox]

Trench Crusade more like lame crusade 👎

[opaque coyote]

Trench cumsade.

Has it got out of beta yet

[crystal forum]

did they add a new faction

[opaque coyote]

This is a genuine question btw

[nova scaffold]

its so ass that literally it tell the customers to make up the lore because they cant make a good lore

[crystal forum]

wolf has been my main source of information for trench crusade

[crystal forum]

why are you even here damn

that's literally most 40k lore

[nova scaffold]

im talking about easky, you talking about trench crusade which is not 40k

im gonna talk about cool ass tanks

and vehicles they use

[crystal forum]

joined 2 days ago and has ONLY been talking about some autistic world builder game

literally why are you here

[languid meadow]

I posted path of the beast stuff earlier but no one responded

[nova scaffold]

also because @opaque coyote asked for it

[vagrant fox]

I don't know I saw a model that combined with the models gave me strange vibes, truly minigamers are wack

[opaque coyote]

I like seeing people hyperfixate

Even if I have zero idea on what they're talking about

[crystal forum]

i dont and thats why i have you ignored laati

[opaque coyote]

I treat others the way I want to be treated

[nova scaffold]

so yeah the ghrykyn is basically a land ship but carried troops that goes 55kphand reliable

basically a massive m113 but its armor isnt ass

and made from soda cans

[crystal forum]

do you even know any 40k lore

[opaque coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286771128223797320/1339880089189351425/convert.gif

[nova scaffold]

yes on 40%

like the great family argument

[opaque coyote]

Tbf half the time we don't even talk about 40k

[nova scaffold]

vraks being a rebel teen and backfired badly

[nova scaffold]

this channel is just basically general

[crystal forum]

that's because we've already talked about most of the lore

[nova scaffold]

or maybe a quar channel

[opaque coyote]

True

[arctic talon]

Fine

[opaque coyote]

I just like listening to people

[arctic talon]

We can start doing obscure rulebook lore

[crystal forum]

oh god please wolf

[nova scaffold]

you see the apc easky has

fun fact

[arctic talon]

Who wants to talk about the lore in cities of death chat

Anyone

[crystal forum]

ffs not aos lore

[arctic talon]

It’s not AoS

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

It’s 40k

[nova scaffold]

they have versons with artillery guns glued on the front

[crystal forum]

what's cities of death

[arctic talon]

Cities of death is a 40k supplement for urban warfare

[crystal forum]

is it new

[arctic talon]

No

It’s from 7e and 8e/9e

Oh also 3e

For the original iteration

Which wasn’t called cities of death

[crystal forum]

how is it different from normal rules

[arctic talon]

Buildings matter a ton, city crossfire, movement in rubble vs asphalt, flyer issues in dense urban zones

Ect.

[vagrant fox]

40k editions are only good if they almost kill gw I've decided, so the 3e one gets a pass

[arctic talon]

LOL

So 7e as well right?

[vagrant fox]

Well yea true

[crystal forum]

we might be on our way there with HH

[arctic talon]

Nah

Heresy is a side game

Much smaller audience and profit then 40k

[vagrant fox]

Space Marines and primarchs print too much money

[arctic talon]

Heresy isn’t even in the top 5 biggest tabletop war games

[crystal forum]

man

[vagrant fox]

Now a true full year of xenos might get us there

[arctic talon]

GW holding spots 1 and 3

Go fucking insane btw

lol

Crazy market dominance

[crystal forum]

it's also a pretty tiny market

[nova scaffold]

yoo @opaque coyote you got a fav quar tractors

[vagrant fox]

What's 2nd, bolt action with those wackass models?

[opaque coyote]

No I don't know this table top game that much

I just listened to you

[crystal forum]

god what a weird unit

[arctic talon]

40k
battle tech
age of sigmar
Bolt Action
star wars legion

thats the top 5

[nova scaffold]

on the bright side, the lore and rules are free to get at wargames Atlantic and zombiesmith

[nova scaffold]

why his head is tiny

[arctic talon]

it an ironkin torso

in big body

[crystal forum]

do you know what a votaan is

[nova scaffold]

dwarfs?

[arctic talon]

they took this dude

[vagrant fox]

I always forget battle tech is popular, it doesn't seem like it half the time

[arctic talon]

but modified his body basicially lol

[nocturne crest]

Replaceable and add a few bits and you got a very robotic iron hands.

[arctic talon]

But yes the Leagues of Votaan are basicially dwarfs

[nova scaffold]

but they betray the imperium and joined the tau just to make their vehicles and armor look stupid

[crystal forum]

i just want the gun tbh

it's fucking huge

[arctic talon]

Not how that works

[crystal forum]

i hate how the steeljack guns kinda look like space marine shit

stop doing this to me GW

[nova scaffold]

like why the votaans vehicles looks like a bettles with a plasma guns on the back

[nova scaffold]

i belived that they was the squats before the meth up cockroaches at most of them

the remaming ones just become its own group which is the league of votaan

[arctic talon]

No

[dapper gyro]

Star Wars Legion is meh... nevertheless, good to see that it does good.

[storm jungle]

Because its NASA-punk

[arctic talon]

other way around

gimme a bit

[storm jungle]

its the advanced sci-fi aesthetic

[arctic talon]

let me finish something and I'll type the lore out

[storm jungle]

because uhhh votann arent backwards morons

[crystal forum]

they are

[nova scaffold]

the squats ate the meth roach?!

[storm jungle]

they arent

[storm jungle]

tf is a "meth roach"

[dapper gyro]

Votann is quality over quantity.

[crystal forum]

that can be said for half the factions in the game

[storm jungle]

I mean no it cant

[nova scaffold]

these

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

Tyranids?

what lol

[arctic talon]

Squats are descendent from the Leagues of Votaan

[nova scaffold]

yes

[vagrant fox]

Votann more like stinky boys born in tubes worshipping a lagging computer 👎

[dapper gyro]

Literally "If we give elite non super human power armour".

[arctic talon]

And then the nids ate them

lol

[crystal forum]

necron, tau, eldar

[storm jungle]

Thats the Imperium 😔

[arctic talon]

the leagues of votaan are the progenitors

[storm jungle]

"all factions"

mfer you list 3

[crystal forum]

i said half

[nova scaffold]

i love calling the tyranids "meth roach" because they are scuffed and want one thing

[arctic talon]

the way squats looked

from 1e also

aren't canon

lol

thank fuck

because god they were ugly

[nova scaffold]

because the meth roachs ate them

[storm jungle]

THATS NOT EVEN THE HALF 😭

40k has like 8 core factions

[arctic talon]

Not why they got discontinued

[storm jungle]

considering its one of the reasons why they got entirely abandoned I dont blame the guys at GW tbh

[crystal forum]

dark eldar

that's 4

[storm jungle]

no

[nova scaffold]

why

[storm jungle]

Because their aesthetic sucked

[arctic talon]

Ugly, sold horribly, everyone hated them

[nova scaffold]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

and it was awful

lol

[arctic talon]

yeah ima be real with you

[outer wave]

I wanna be as thick as that left guy

[arctic talon]

Squats pre LoV and Ironhead squats

were ass

[nova scaffold]

that fat robot looks like a metal ball

[arctic talon]

So GJ on GW lol

[dapper gyro]

They belong to another dimension.

[arctic talon]

thats not a robot btw, thats a Squat lol

[crystal forum]

none of us were alive when squats were models

[dapper gyro]

They removed the female SM though.

[crystal forum]

except ancient dilara

[nova scaffold]

hes just fat and small

[vagrant fox]

I am fond of the biker squats in my memory tbf

[arctic talon]

Tbf those also sold like shit

[nova scaffold]

is that a plasma gun on his head

[storm jungle]

talk about a glowup

[arctic talon]

I think its a melta lol

[dapper gyro]

Well... it was the 80s, a product of its time.

[crystal forum]

why is the plastic so shiny

[storm jungle]

its this thing called light

pretty nuts

[vagrant fox]

Nottingham radiation

[arctic talon]

Same unit btw lol

[storm jungle]

I do legit love how like

they incorporated the animal motif to the back-mantles

[crystal forum]

people legit prefer old models like that

[nova scaffold]

every time it fires

[crystal forum]

grandpa needs to be put to sleep permanently

[arctic talon]

same unit btw LOL

[vagrant fox]

They're almost tolerable if my exhaustion from dwarfposting wasn't projected on to the votann

[arctic talon]

ngl

LoV are like

not generic dwarfs in terms of everything

so gj

[storm jungle]

nobody asked umgi

[arctic talon]

GW

ig

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

They're not even uber racist

smh

[crystal forum]

i would have wanted more generic dwarves

[storm jungle]

well

[arctic talon]

NOT MY GW DWARFS

[storm jungle]

they are

depends on the League

[arctic talon]

Look

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

I'm talking about the 2 poster children

if we wana talk about the racist leagues sure

LOL

[spare osprey]

do 30k squats look like oldhammer squats or votaan

[crystal forum]

40k is becoming less racist. it's so over

[arctic talon]

Both

Well

[vagrant fox]

I did, dwarfmoid