#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
humble shoal
late verge
Does 40k exist in that universe lol
opaque coyote
Idk
I guess it depends on how many adjectives of "War" and "Hammer" you can make
I also find it funny how
Warhammer refers to Sigmar and his hammer
But for 40k, it's basically meaningless
crystal forum
i dont usually say this but this is a dumb question
please shun yourself into a corner for 30 minutes
late verge
i dont usually say this but this is a dumb question
I don't usually say this but you are a dumb
dapper gyro
Oi, lets not make an arm race out of this.
crystal forum
I don't usually say this but you are a dumb
bot
paper haven
What are we angry about today lads?
wet sandal
What are we angry about today lads?
i find the weather highly disagreeable
paper haven
Fuck the weather
dapper gyro
Psyker should be able to control weather, right?
crystal forum
i find the weather highly disagreeable
where you at
britain?
it's just been fucking wood fire smoke here
i feel like im in a kiln
every summer
late verge
butt
crystal forum
cinder pivot
dapper gyro
Why...
opaque coyote
https://preview.redd.it/b79z806djiqd1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2a...
Imagine being the hive mind
reading some "unaware" psyker's mind as they foolishly try to connect to you
...
only to get this photo beamed to all of your consciousnesses
outer wave
Imagine the Norn Queen getting some Guiliman buns like that
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
Oh yeah and also
Another 40k sitcom idea
It's Guilliman trying to deal with a problem in the Imperium
sharp pollen
is ordo chronos even a real thing
sharp pollen
cause making things up just for the meme is bad
opaque coyote
Basically they did exist
They disappeared
But now they pop in and out
sharp pollen
i mean huge things
opaque coyote
It is quite literally unknown whether they actually do exist or not
And also yes, there is a civil war about the date
opaque coyote
i mean huge things
Basically it's called the Chronostrife.
Guilliman tried to make a new dating system for the Imperium so that everything could be consistent
This caused a civil war within the Ordo Chronos that's apparently still ongoing
opaque coyote
Well he did.
Unfortunately after he fucking died, things got out of hand.
Apparently living in different systems makes time a complicated topic
So some people legit think it's still like
The 39th millennium
sharp pollen
would you kindly stop using these big ass
gaps
its annoying
and hurts eyes
sharp pollen
eat ass
opaque coyote
Jk I'll try my best to not have gaps
opaque coyote
Also it doesn't help that warp travel can be rather inconsistent at times. You can (rarely) travel backwards in time by accident, or arrive years in the future.
This all makes time rather confusing, and is the entire reason why the Ordos Chronos exists.
plush mason
Also it doesn't help that warp travel can be rather inconsistent at times. You c...
i wouldnt even say rarely, more like uncommon
its the stated reason for ordo chrono to exist in fact, because some of these talking time paradoxes could mess shit up if the inquisition isnt careful
opaque coyote
its the stated reason for ordo chrono to exist in fact, because some of these ta...
Fuck the Alpha Legion, how much shit did the Chronos change or keep on track?
plush mason
no one knows
they have fucked with the timeline so much they both made themselves all powerful and non existent
opaque coyote
Yeah I think they literally disappear for millenia and then just suddenly reappear.
opaque coyote
Also one Ordos Chronos Inquistor literally is an old man that wants to steal his younger body
And use it for himself.
plush mason
there is also that one interrogator they left behind that has been using a ship to try and travel back before he got left, and has killed his other selves uncountable times in the process
opaque coyote
I imagine some Ordo Chronos Inquistor tried to travel back to prevent the Emperor from being
Throne'd.
But I doubt the Chaos Gods would allow that.
Especially since they don't care about time.
sturdy sedge
Oh yeah and also
lofty mason
The Imperium be like, “We’re protecting humanity”, while having the most human kill count will never not be funny.
opaque coyote
The Imperium be like, *“We’re protecting humanity”*, while having the most human...
Also while destroying any possible alternative.
RIP Interex
opaque coyote
Also while destroying any possible alternative.
I think people forget this part a lot of the time
It isn't that the Imperium is the last hope by default
It's that the Imperium murdered any other avenues for humanity to thrive
Tripped on itself
And now it is the last hope because every other option was killed by them. And it's also constantly tripping on its own face.
And it will remain the last hope no matter what
Tbf some of the civilizations were somehow worse than the Imperium
But some were definitely better
median star
it woulve always devolved into an endgame of chaos,orks, probably tyranids ontop of necrons either way and even with the cohesion the imperium somewhat has now things are not going great
wet sandal
opaque coyote
So I found a meme that is
Circle jerky but still funny to me
So
💀
Also Draco technically counts even though he technically isn't canon
And the DA that followed Cypher
green loom
And the DA that followed Cypher
And the admech
queen laurel
I mean it's technically true
many times they have been slipped up by just whatever the hell
sacred bluff
all those blood games for nothing
ornate estuary
And the DA that followed Cypher
And John grammaticus and his entire band of friends. And that entire platoon of the alpha legion...
Fuck the entire palace is basically Swiss cheese
remote widget
How many pre-heresy custodes are left? Besides the obvious ONE are there any mentions
crisp heath
<a:Comfy:846790362344718336>
I love this chanel
green loom
how big was the emperors ship
It was, vaguely, large
rocky gale
Big enough to generate it's own gravity
languid meadow
Dark Heresy Skitarii model
rocky gale
Have they said if it's a guy or a girl yet?
arctic talon
They haven't
rocky gale
Hmm
languid meadow
Enby techpriest.....
rocky gale
Possibly
languid meadow
Do you think this one is gonna be a murder psycho like Pasqal
limpid granite
Prolly not
arctic talon
Do you think this one is gonna be a murder psycho like Pasqal
Murder psycho? imo no
Actual psycho? yes
limpid granite
Imagine you can romance the kroot and anton zerbe just exiles you on the spot
outer wave
Imagine a harem of your companions
queen laurel
Imagine a harem of your companions
you want to end up on the floor with bullet holes?
outer wave
If I'm going out, I'm going out on my terms
languid meadow
I rather die standing than on my knees
limpid granite
I rather die standing than on my knees
Do you think well get 2 space marine companions again
Owlcat did say they regret that you get companions later in the game in rogue trader
languid meadow
I mean I'm betting for a night lord one
queen laurel
Do you think well get 2 space marine companions again
A loyalist marine in dark heresy as a companion I don't think because we do have a big guy
limpid granite
Maybe imperial fist night lords
queen laurel
COGG is the obligatory multiple tile companion
limpid granite
Ogryn does provide the tank stuff that a marine has
languid meadow
I don't think we'll get a loyalist space marine
winged jacinth
En par with Marziapn
languid meadow
and if we do I bet they'll be deathwatch
queen laurel
and if we do I bet they'll be deathwatch
welp that's immediately two companions off your team if you decide to bring him in
languid meadow
I think it depends on how they want to do them
limpid granite
Deathwatch uses necron technology
languid meadow
since they learned from Ulfar
limpid granite
So they are tolerant of xenos
languid meadow
Not all the time very rarely
limpid granite
Not all the time very rarely
The phaseblade yeah
queen laurel
So they are tolerant of xenos
it depends but i can see them making this one more tolerant
queen laurel
Their entire existence is trained on xenos hunting after all
So it's very hard to get along on the thing you're trained to kill
limpid granite
It would be a cool thing if you needed to pass speech checks to make certain companions work together
winged jacinth
Yeah they are literally the military arm of the ordo xenos
winged jacinth
It would be a cool thing if you needed to pass speech checks to make certain com...
Save scum city lol
limpid granite
Itl provide some roleplay flair
winged jacinth
Rogue trader already struggled enough with wanting you to fellowshipmax for solo conversations and if you can use the party i think it would feel like nonsense
green loom
Dark Heresy Skitarii model
Once again Owlcat graphics leaping a few more miles
limpid granite
Dark heresy looks amazing graphically
surreal nest
I am going to kiss the kroot.
limpid granite
dapper gyro
How do you even kiss that lower jaw?
surreal nest
With effort
misty vector
with love
languid meadow
Kroot love is only for the strong
limpid granite
Kroot love is only for the strong
If a kroot thinks you look like a snack you should run
rose thorn
Can’t believe LoV have like, actual faction rules
late verge
How do you even kiss that lower jaw?
The indomitable human spirit finds a way
rocky gale
Can’t believe LoV have like, actual faction rules
and they're both thematic and cool
Rather than just being a Dwarf meme
languid meadow
Another LoV W
rocky gale
Doubled the size of their roster, every model is a banger, cool new rules.
Votann sweep
Forget year of Chaos, it's the year of Dwarf
queen laurel
Forget year of Chaos, it's the year of Dwarf
That's what I've been saying and the chaos dwarves reveals too?
the stunties sweeped this time
storm jungle
queen laurel
Stunties deserve everything though
bro called him a slur and said they deserve everything he's a little confused
languid meadow
Welcome back Lyndon B. Johnson
celest dome
I'll be honest, any setting that has Dwarfs offended over being called short is somewhat dumb
"I'm not short, you're tall, your tallness just make you ill suited for the mines and easier for the knife ears to shoot you"
storm jungle
tbh it kinda works to show the fragile personality lol
rocky gale
Votann release was peak, Kharadon release was pretty good, Chorf release is peak. Now if the rumours about Cities of Sigmar getting a Duardin release wave is true then it truly will be the year of the Dwarf
celest dome
LotR Dwarf release 🙏
outer wave
tbh it kinda works to show the fragile personality lol
Yeah, its a bit silly, but it works in favor of Warhammer Dwarfs due to their pettiness and possible insecurities
queen laurel
tbh it kinda works to show the fragile personality lol
For how much they boast about being a tough race they sure have very fragile personalities
storm jungle
thats basically the point yeah
outer wave
They're so hard headed that small insults break their composure easily
languid meadow
rocky gale
For how much they boast about being a tough race they sure have very fragile per...
||Men..||
rose thorn
Forget year of Chaos, it's the year of Dwarf
Frrr, fyreslayers are likely to get a major update
celest dome
Good they need it
queen laurel
Frrr, fyreslayers are likely to get a major update
them and Bonesplitterz
rocky gale
They are more likely to get ported to Old World like the Beastmen did
queen laurel
I might like Barbarians but their barbarian look is quite outdated
rose thorn
They are more likely to get ported to Old World like the Beastmen did
In the article announcing that beastmen are going to old world, they said they weren’t sure what to do with bone splittaz 
rocky gale
Hmmm
queen laurel
They didn’t want to put them in old world for some reason
yeah the old world rulebook doesn't even have them
rose thorn
Maybe next edition AOS they will get a new identity
celest dome
iirc there were some problems back when BF was still going about the Savage Orcs being meant to be African tribal armies, might be why they're hesitating on bringing those back
queen laurel
iirc there were some problems back when BF was still going about the Savage Orcs...
They're not OK with that but orc slaves called the black orcs are fine?
rose thorn
rose thorn
Aren’t the black orcs also just a bunch of bandits or something
That’s how I heard them last described
celest dome
Black Orcs are modified Iron orcs that the Chaos Dwarf created, and used as slaves and warrior armies.
But they rebelled and now are fighting for their own side
queen laurel
yeah they were basically a result of experimentation of the chaos dwarves
queen laurel
Black Orcs are modified Iron orcs that the Chaos Dwarf created, and used as slav...
OK but like orcs destined to be slaves being called black orcs are
certainly a choice
rose thorn
LMAO
queen laurel
I am genuinely surprised they didn't bring the savage orcs back
If they can bring back something like that
celest dome
I wonder if it's not just a difference of one being in lore (so isn't as visible at a cursory glance), and the other being art+minis
queen laurel
I wonder if it's not just a difference of one being in lore (so isn't as visible...
also i'm like
95% sure
savage orcs are not mentioned in the arcane journal
opaque coyote
YEAAAAAA
winged jacinth
OK but like orcs destined to be slaves being called black orcs are
I think its a reference to the black orcs of mordor, which has similar connotative problems
queen laurel
I think its a reference to the black orcs of mordor, which has similar connotati...
Yeah but that doesn't lessen the you know problems
hey i love the way they look but you know you have to point out the obvious
winged jacinth
Yeah honestly the tolkien orcs are even more problematic?
Like they're made via the evil corruption of (white, afaik) elves
storm jungle
tbh he never meant it in that context
black/darkness is something humans are afraid of as a visual thing ala shadows and whatnot
winged jacinth
Yeah it was so long ago he likely did not consider it
queen laurel
Yeah this sort of stuff is what he kinda had in mind
yeah but unfortunately people will pick up different things in their understanding
winged jacinth
And also he was prone to not noticing his own subtexts like when frodo and sam have to cross the area that is DEFINITELY NOT inspired by the WWI trench combat he saw
Only tons of dead soldiers rotting in the mud etc
celest dome
Wasn't it somewhat part of the point though ?
winged jacinth
LOTR has a very literal form of the light=good thing
rocky gale
Tolkien didn't intend a lot of things with his characterisations of the orcs, but he later acknowledged that there were problematic aspects and talked about having regrets in how he wrote the orcs.
storm jungle
^
celest dome
Mordor+Isengard being basically the vice of the Great war
winged jacinth
Wasn't it somewhat part of the point though ?
He vehemently denied any connection
storm jungle
Tolkien didn't intend a lot of things with his characterisations of the orcs, bu...
That alone makes him better than most authors yeah
he just never really got around to fixing it due to age and stuff
celest dome
He vehemently denied any connection
Huh, I thought it was meant to
storm jungle
to be fair
authors/creators always sometimes deny outright connection while its obviously portraying something you think it is
queen laurel
That alone makes him better than most authors yeah
Hey he admits he is wrong and regrets it that's good enough for me
winged jacinth
there definitely was a connection he just refused to acknowledge it
storm jungle
^
winged jacinth
probably because he didnt want to think about it
storm jungle
its like the new Superman movie with Boravia/Jarhanpur
winged jacinth
if i had been in the trenches of the great war i'd probably also try to not think about it
storm jungle
yeah that too lol
rocky gale
Like he talked about how the orcs being inherently evil or being incapable of good because of how they were made goes against the nature of the world he created.
storm jungle
I do like how as bad as the Rings of Power is they try to humanize the orcs and everyone got mad about it
kinda says a lot imo
winged jacinth
the orcs were intentional modifications to be the way they are
kinda like 40k orks in that way lol
storm jungle
lol yeah
40k orks got a lot more humble beginnings in comparison and are a lot more one-dimensional morally
also just physically CANNOT stop being evil
winged jacinth
we're getting into the silmarilion weeds but orcs were created by melkor as a perversion of elves and humans because he didnt have the divine flame required to actually create a new species
so he wanted his own people, but he had to make them from other people first
hobbits are human and the dwarves uh... happened???
storm jungle
yeah "Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt"
queen laurel
also just physically CANNOT stop being evil
again old ones, you need to follow Doofensmirtz in the self destruct button
rocky gale
Dwarves were made by one of the other Valar
winged jacinth
anything that can talk that isnt human/hobbit/elf/dwarf/orc is probably an angel of some variety
dapper gyro
Orc in LotR is more like chaos daemons than Ork.
Are you going to tell chaos deamon to stop hitting you?
winged jacinth
Dwarves were made by one of the other Valar
sooort of... they're considered the children of the mountain ainur (whatever his name was) but they just kinda emerged from the stone without his intent iirc
queen laurel
yeah "Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt"
evil can't create my ass, i am CREATING weapons for profit
winged jacinth
also the dwarf kings couldnt be controlled by the rings because their rockish nature made them too immutable for sauron to influence lol
"ally your kingdom to me"
"did you say something about increasing the size of my gold pile?"
(as a result the dwarf king rings iirc all ended up in dragon hordes)
winged jacinth
basically heresy against khorne
queen laurel
No blood, no gore, everyone looks clean and sterile
yeah now that you say
for a khorne art
it is not that violent looking
winged jacinth
i cant imagine khorne marines go into battle without pre-bloodying their equipment
dapper gyro
Are those random sm or gk?
winged jacinth
(and the force glaive)
storm jungle
oh right
queen laurel
Mood, but its just an artist thing
yeah i always expect something around this type of dirty
arctic talon
anyway <@255478624851853312> source pls
Idfk the source
Apparently the crusade book
winged jacinth
its so british that the reason hobbits make good ringbearers is they go "ultimate power? seems like a real hassle" but they still care enough about the world to go do the quest
unlike the dwarves or tom who similarly dont care, but dont care so much they're unlikely to keep track of it
i wonder what happened to tom in the later ages
opaque coyote
Apparently somebody found this gem on Facebook
winged jacinth
the elves faded in the 4th age and the dwarves faded in the 5th age
storm jungle
Idfk the source
wdym you dont know YOU POSTED IT
storm jungle
yeah facebook 40k users are all piecees of shit
also I LOVE how they use the fucking GI Cobra symbol AND the Galactic Empire logo
WHAT DOES COBRA HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING
THEY ARE TERRORISTS
winged jacinth
i think cobra commander would do well in the astra militarum
opaque coyote
yeah facebook 40k users are all piecees of shit
I mean I am half sure this is fake. A Facebook 40k post would be way more unaware.
At the same time though it's funny
arctic talon
wdym you dont know YOU POSTED IT
Someone posted it on a random discord channel I’m in smh
storm jungle
Someone posted it on a random discord channel I’m in smh
damn
opaque coyote
chud 40k fans can be really daft
If only because of the baby tyranid
storm jungle
alright ill take it
arctic talon
In the hobbying section of the 40k server
rocky gale
its so british that the reason hobbits make good ringbearers is they go "ultimat...
and when the ring tried to corrupt Sam it promised him the power to turn all of middle earth into a Garden and Sam just thought "That's too big a garden for me" so the ring promised the power to turn all of the people of Middle Earth into gardeners to tend it for him but Sam just thought "The joy of Gardens is doing it yourself"
opaque coyote
chud 40k fans can be really daft
The funniest part is that it would be 100% accurate if you replaced the Tyranids with like
T'au
Eldar (of the Craftworld variety)
storm jungle
Literally lol
queen laurel
Literally lol
People who defend the imperium are a different breed
winged jacinth
the tyranids keep shooting their babies at me 🙁
rocky gale
I mean I am half sure this is fake. A Facebook 40k post would be way more unawar...
I dunno, I saw some similar shit earlier with people complaining about the hobby becoming popular and saying "A popular hobby is a fortress with an open gate"
opaque coyote
Literally lol
Also somebody commented this underneath the post.
Unironically my wife’s opinion about my space marine killing her cute ‘buggies’.
“Why are you killing them they’re just so cute!”
“They tried to eat me babe.”
“Well just let them eat you what’s the problem?”
queen laurel
I dunno, I saw some similar shit earlier with people complaining about the hobby...
Bro no way they pulled out the dawn of war quote
celest dome
Also somebody commented this underneath the post.
> Unironically my wife’s opin...
Their wife is a better person than most in the community
winged jacinth
we must assault the hobby using MULTIPLE DEFENSIVE DEEP STRIKES, the codex strategy known as STEEL REHN
opaque coyote
Women are attracted to Tyranids. I suppose because it shows their inner desire to consume endlessly and conquer.
Something something Jean Stealer
storm jungle
I dunno, I saw some similar shit earlier with people complaining about the hobby...
Thats one of the really popular "quotes" by those people yeah
winged jacinth
honestly i wouldnt defend the tyranids its not like it bothers them if you kill them
storm jungle
honestly i wouldnt defend the tyranids its not like it bothers them if you kill ...
its basically cope
like
"you say the imperium is bad and defend shit like the tyranids"
no?
winged jacinth
gaunt gets shot
turned into goop
goop turned into another gaunt
storm jungle
Nobody does that
opaque coyote
honestly i wouldnt defend the tyranids its not like it bothers them if you kill ...
There are innocent babies that need feeding smh
They're just hungry
storm jungle
Aha of course
I do use warhammer instagram a lot for art harvesting
they post some HD shit from new codexes usually
(especially ones that never get posted online)
queen laurel
"you say the imperium is bad and defend shit like the tyranids"
I mean defending tyranids is like defending a gun they are literally evolved and made to be weapons that can't feel
opaque coyote
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085667218584506599/1402017667422093432/I...
Why does one of the SMs only have one horn.
I can't even see a broken off horn or anything
queen laurel
so nothing to defend there
opaque coyote
No
winged jacinth
I mean defending tyranids is like defending a gun they are literally evolved and...
especially since the ones that have any kind of identity seem to keep them intact between deaths lol
opaque coyote
Due to it being near the backpack
winged jacinth
like if you kill the swarmlord the next swarmlord will remember
opaque coyote
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085667218584506599/1402017667422093432/I...
Gonna sound like a dumbass but is this ai?
...God I feel like a fucking Interrogator
"HERESY. HERESY EVERYWHERE!!"
"ARE YOU THE HORUS HERESY???"
winged jacinth
no but it does look like it was composited
arctic talon
Gonna sound like a dumbass but is this ai?
...God I feel like a fucking Interro...
No
opaque coyote
no but it does look like it was composited
Yeah that's probably why
opaque coyote
Again, I feel like a Zealot
"YOU HAVE 6 TOES? MUTATION."
BLAM
Sorry just
It gets harder to differentiate at times
winged jacinth
its got a bit of a weird mix of level of detail but nothing too rare
arctic talon
Official 40k artists always have something fucky lol
winged jacinth
it looks like they drew a background, 4 pairs of grey knights fighting stuff, then composed them in photoshop
arctic talon
Yeah
spare osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085667218584506599/1402017667422093432/I...
See I enjoy this, because that world eater doesn’t have a jump pack. He’s just fucking throwing himself
barren prawn
I dont even remember
celest dome
remember our debate about scholam?
Did people think they did ?
barren prawn
ye
celest dome
(though you can pick it in the creation menu)
barren prawn
(though you can pick it in the creation menu)
yeah could be a unique line
celest dome
Wait do Psyker get to pcik the Scholla
barren prawn
im pretty sure sanctioned psykers do
barren prawn
pretty sure i heard it in one of cains books
celest dome
They'd go through their own training systems, overseen by the Astra Telepathica
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854
Fix your brain
queen laurel
Fix your brain
that is like asking a minotaur marine not to kill civillians
opaque coyote
that is like asking a minotaur marine not to kill civillians
"Yeah I can be trusted with the baby. Just give him to me! Trust me! Just give me the baby! Just give ME THE BABY!"
- Average Marines Malevolent
barren prawn
fine forget everything i said
celest dome
fine forget everything i said
queen laurel
fine forget everything i said
https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-wrong-person-forget-i-said-that-forget-it-last-night-gif-4828677
nova scaffold
so yeah @celest dome if you wonder what im talking about in the wrong chat
this is a quar, they are ant eaters and this case imma just use this as example on which space marine chapter will not use a recently discovered xeno species into a kickball
like the black templuar see them and be like
storm jungle
this is a quar, they are ant eaters and this case imma just use this as example ...
I hate to be that guy but none of them. Space Marines are brainwashed fascist child soldiers, they are outright psycho-indoctrinated to kill aliens and "traitors" alike.
No smart alien species would also ever fight for the Imperium, its basically nazi germany in space, they consider the existence alone of aliens as a crime
Even if they did, the moment another Imperial faction saw a Chapter fighting with aliens they'd call for both of their extermination/censure.
queen laurel
I hate to be that guy but none of them. Space Marines are brainwashed fascist ch...
don't forget the ordo xenos WOULD eradicate them if they try that shit
nova scaffold
well each chapter is different like salamanders are nicest unless you are not a human
or have skin when the night lords got thier first
storm jungle
well each chapter is different like salamanders are nicest unless you are not a ...
Yeah but they are again all brainwashed monsters.
Salamanders are also not really nice
they have destroyed countless alien species and got a specific Company to burn imperial worlds whos populaces rise up in riots/revolutions
they are essentially hypocrites
nova scaffold
Yeah but they are again all brainwashed monsters.
the raptors are different because they are capable of making a reasonable ideas
like not yelling at 500 decidable
queen laurel
well each chapter is different like salamanders are nicest unless you are not a ...
salamanders are better than the average marine but, not by much
nova scaffold
salamanders are better than the average marine but, not by much
on morality
opaque coyote
I hate to be that guy but none of them. Space Marines are brainwashed fascist ch...
Brainwashing so strong, even Chaos Space Marines literally still hate Xenos
queen laurel
they have anti riot squads that have flamethrowers
nova scaffold
Brainwashing so strong, even Chaos Space Marines literally still hate Xenos
is just compedotive racism
storm jungle
the raptors are different because they are capable of making a reasonable ideas
Yeah, for humans.
opaque coyote
Like even after selling their souls to the four fucking super satans
storm jungle
They still serve an awful regime
queen laurel
yeah that
storm jungle
and dont lift a hand to help the imperium's populace
Space Marines are not good guys. None of them are.
opaque coyote
They still serve an awful regime
Salamanders do the bare minimum of "trying to not shoot the child running away from the Tyranids"
nova scaffold
i mean if the recently discovered xeno does not fumbled like attack first or not reconizing big E as the god emperoro
queen laurel
is just compedotive racism
i am sorry dude but you're tackling morality on super soldiers that serve an empire that has this on the propaganda list
opaque coyote
i mean if the recently discovered xeno does not fumbled like attack first or not...
Nah any Xeno is instantly on the genocide list
Any type of Xeno
It doesn't matter how good or bad they are
green loom
i mean if the recently discovered xeno does not fumbled like attack first or not...
They get murdered
queen laurel
the only xenos they would tolerate are animals they could exploit
rocky gale
Yea, there's plenty of peaceful friendly xenos who laid out the welcome party to the Imperium and got genocided.
opaque coyote
Yea, there's plenty of peaceful friendly xenos who laid out the welcome party to...
Their existence is considered a crime.
An assault on all five senses.
nova scaffold
Nah any Xeno is instantly on the genocide list
jokaero:
green loom
They're considered animals
green loom
Generally
nova scaffold
that's an animal xeno
a sick ass one tho, the one that basically a living mystory box that will make anything
green loom
The only good example of a non animal one is the one that got harvested to extinction for an immortality thing
nova scaffold
like a ring that shoot a deleting laser
storm jungle
Jokaero also still get attacked in other imperial spaces, the only reason they arnet wiped out is because they can actually defend themselves with OP weaponry
green loom
well each chapter is different like salamanders are nicest unless you are not a ...
The Salamanders are, decidedly, not nice
dapper gyro
I missed the Sally talks... But recently, some Sally fans are insufferable.
opaque coyote
Jokaero also *still* get attacked in other imperial spaces, the only reason they...
Basically there are a couple of exceptions. But they're either extremely local, hidden, or temporary
Generally, the best an average Xenos could hope from the Imperium is that they get ignored.
dapper gyro
They started with Sally because of the "nice good guy". However, if you point out to them that Sally did a lot of stupid shit, they start to defend Sally's action...
green loom
They actually get even worse in the context of them rescuing civilians
Because they rescue them so they can be forced back into the slave mines
dapper gyro
So they unknowingly get corrupted.
opaque coyote
Oh
nova scaffold
so yeah out of anyone in the imperium, like which one that is lease likely to "rip ass first. ask logical question later"
opaque coyote
Salamanders?
green loom
so yeah out of anyone in the imperium, like which one that is lease likely to "r...
Basically none of them
opaque coyote
so yeah out of anyone in the imperium, like which one that is lease likely to "r...
Uhhhh
None of them.
queen laurel
so yeah out of anyone in the imperium, like which one that is lease likely to "r...
none
queen laurel
we are not kidding
green loom
The odd one that has a decent head on their shoulders
queen laurel
they are crazy
green loom
Guilliman does it because he's smart, but he still hates aliens because that's like... a foundational belief he fought for in the Old Imperium lol
shadow plover
Rogue Traders basically
opaque coyote
yeah they cooked
Literally it's genocide first, ask questions never.
The Imperium basically kept Slaanesh alive by accident purely because they couldn't hold back on attacking the Eldar for 0.01 seconds while they were doing a ritual to potentially kill a Chaos God.
The Eldar even told them directly.
dapper gyro
Anyhow, it is easy to tell if a BT fan is doing a sacrasm, but it is impossible to know if Sally fan is being an ignorant devil.
opaque coyote
"Hey we're doing a ritual to kill Slaanesh. Can you stop trying to kill us for just a little bit?"
...
And then a space marine began firing at them anyways
And then the rest followed
It literally costed them nothing to just wait and see btw
nova scaffold
they are crazy
imagine being some privative xeno and when you see a inquisition said "ew cringe" and proceed to glassed the fucking planet
spawn camping
opaque coyote
imagine being some privative xeno and when you see a inquisition said "ew cring...
Nah glassing a planet is a waste.
You'll just be forced onto a conveyer belt towards a pit of lava while you and your family get tortured along the way.
This actually happened btw
I'm not even memeing.
nova scaffold
Nah glassing a planet is a waste.
You'll just be forced onto a conveyer belt to...
i think you might be not a fan of the imperium
opaque coyote
They literally put a bunch of Xenos on a conveyer belt and forced them to march towards a pit of lava.
opaque coyote
i think you might be not a fan of the imperium
Nah fucking love it.
nova scaffold
Nah fucking love it.
lmao
opaque coyote
SUPER FASCISM IS FUN!!
queen laurel
i think you might be not a fan of the imperium
it's OK to like it but you have to acknowledge the wrongs
nova scaffold
you witnessed fucked up shit and your first though "HEEEELLLLL YEAHHHHH"
queen laurel
i love orks but they are war mongering maniacs
opaque coyote
The Imperium is essentially described as the worst regime in mankind's history.
And I fucking love it.
opaque coyote
you witnessed fucked up shit and your first though "HEEEELLLLL YEAHHHHH"
To be fair. Every character in 40k is basically a war criminal
storm jungle
i think you might be not a fan of the imperium
Thats not a bad thing tbh lol
nova scaffold
To be fair. Every character in 40k is basically a war criminal
being kind is cringe, gotta punt a eldar child like a football
opaque coyote
It's not about what's the morally best character, it's about your favorite character that uses the Geneva convention as fancy toilet paper!
nova scaffold
<:ArbiGooo:1386403868392292436>
dapper gyro
The Geneva convention only applies to people who signed it.
nova scaffold
dapper gyro
Also, many people make up rules that are not in that convention...
Like not shooting people with 12.7 or bigger caliber... Lol
Or stab people with a sharp or triangle bayonet.
opaque coyote
Like not shooting people with 12.7 or bigger caliber... Lol
Honestly some of the rules are probably impossible to follow in a warzone.
Like how tf do you not shoot people with a 12.7 caliber round or higher?
Would using an anti-tank rifle against a tank go against the rules?
nova scaffold
and you wont get bullied by GW in lore or able to afford it
opaque coyote
is a wargame that is like warhammer but reverse
Haven't heard of it. Detail it
This isn't a request.
It is a demand
storm jungle
and you wont get bullied by GW in lore or able to afford it
wdym "bullied in lore"
nova scaffold
wdym "bullied in lore"
remeber when the wraith bone get retconed
storm jungle
remeber when the wraith bone get retconed
Thats basically nothing
and just grifters bitching for the sake of bitching
hallow plover
remeber when the wraith bone get retconed
wdym. always has been minerals
storm jungle
its got 30 years of proper lore behind it and most people just ignored it (including me)
hallow plover
storm jungle
also like
its flat out wrong
hence why everyone ignores it
its not a big deal lol
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/fat-dog-obese-waddle-door-gif-6798346527002746712
Well well well if it ain't the beer drinker himself
nova scaffold
Haven't heard of it. Detail it
well quar is a ant eaters that lived in a planet that has no birds
opaque coyote
remeber when the wraith bone get retconed
Eh not really.
Wraithbone is basically varied in terms of process. They basically just added another way Eldar can make it.
queen laurel
its got 30 years of proper lore behind it and most people just ignored it (inclu...
In the first place in universe i'm pretty sure it's much more efficient to make wraith bone using warp energy
nova scaffold
Eh not really.
Wraithbone is basically varied in terms of process. They basical...
it was cool untill they made it sound lame
queen laurel
Than establishing mining outpost
opaque coyote
I mean it's material you literally fucking sing to make it
hallow plover
it was cool untill they made it sound lame
just ignore the parts you don't like 🤷♂️
queen laurel
Again it's nothing burger of a change
storm jungle
^
opaque coyote
Imagine belting out Metallica to make bulletproof material
nova scaffold
like its a material that you made it from the warp by bonesingers
opaque coyote
like its a material that you made it from the warp by bonesingers
That still applies
queen laurel
like its a material that you made it from the warp by bonesingers
And it's still that
Again in universe i am sure it is much more efficient doing that
opaque coyote
It's just that now there's another process
It's like how there's multiple ways to make steel
With differing quality
Same with wraithbone
Either via the warp or by shoving shit in it
viral halo
nova scaffold
anyways @opaque coyote this is the world map if you want to see about quar
if you want
opaque coyote
Oh yeah for a random fact.
Stalin was actually a fan of Western movies.
He also liked Pepsi
dapper gyro
Honestly some of the rules are probably impossible to follow in a warzone.
Like...
It is a fake rule. Since artillery, close air support and many other things rain down on troops.
nova scaffold
and its separated by 2 factions . the crusader and the royalist
opaque coyote
It is a fake rule. Since artillery, close air support and many other things rain...
Yeah ngl some parts of the Geneva convention I'm like
"Did... Did they forget that guns exist?'
nova scaffold
the royalist arnt evil but they want to end the war peacefully but want the crusader gone because it threaten the first family
opaque coyote
There is nothing about gun caliber.
Damn no wonder nobody follows that shit
It's basically lip service
dapper gyro
Btw, the fact that 40K shotgun is still 12 gauge is funny to me.
nova scaffold
and the crusader want the world to be free and want the first family not be in power
so you got that laati
dapper gyro
However, that means the metal casing of 12 gauge could be used for bolter 0.75cal.
nova scaffold
after all these quars want one thing and one thing only
opaque coyote
Btw, the fact that 40K shotgun is still 12 gauge is funny to me.
An idea that I had for 40k is for Flechette shotguns.
Because it sounds funny
nova scaffold
just basically a normal life
opaque coyote
so you got that laati
Yeah this is interesting
Reminds me of the French vs British war
That lasted like 200 years
nova scaffold
Reminds me of the French vs British war
the blue one is coftyran and the red is the gwynts
celest dome
An idea that I had for 40k is for Flechette shotguns.
Flechette do exist for Shotguns in lore, and you have cross ow shotgun too
dapper gyro
Fléchette is always a thing. One of the blessing for shotgun in darktide called "fléchette".
opaque coyote
Flechette do exist for Shotguns in lore, and you have cross ow shotgun too
Yeah I was thinking that Flechette shotguns would probably be used more in 40k because armor piercing is important.
nova scaffold
the qwynts are a principality inside coftyrans but they have the power since coftyrans are in debt
nova scaffold
Yeah I was thinking that Flechette shotguns would probably be used more in 40k b...
ngl i dont like flechette
dapper gyro
Or be Russian and use 23mm/4 gauge, which is bigger than most fictional shotgun bore.
winged jacinth
Flechettes don't really make sense for a military (outside tanks) you just use a specialized weapon that does what you want without mucking around with a sabot
sacred ginkgo
Or be Russian and use 23mm/4 gauge, which is bigger than most fictional shotgun ...
I ❤️ riot shotguns
rocky gale
https://tenor.com/view/12gauge-confetti-round-gif-26406626
That's the guy who was testing a Barret 50cal when it exploded
dapper gyro
I ❤️ riot shotguns
Of course a SoB fan
winged jacinth
Flechette as bleed was kinda an odd choice if anything you'll bleed a lot less than from a shot shell
nova scaffold
Or be Russian and use 23mm/4 gauge, which is bigger than most fictional shotgun ...
yoo wanna hear something funny
like about quar weaponary
rocky gale
That's the guy who was testing a Barret 50cal when it exploded
Tore his neck open and he had to shove his own thumb into his artery to stop the bleeding.
dapper gyro
That's the guy who was testing a Barret 50cal when it exploded
It was a Serbu single shot. Otherwise, Barrett would have lost all of its contracts.
dapper gyro
Serbu is a different and smaller company, dude makes guns in his warehouse.
Also it was faulty ammunition
Even Barrett after that incident said that their guns are not made to be abused like that, it is just unsafe in general.
dapper gyro
like about quar weaponary
Table top game weapons can do a lot of things.
nova scaffold
Table top game weapons can do a lot of things.
you know the standard crusader rifle shoots 50 cal and the heavy rifle shoots 20mm and its anti infantry and infantry
dapper gyro
Back in the musket days and slightly after, big bores were common.
You know, one of the original Gatling gun version is 1" (25mm).
This was the time before tanks, so guess what they used it on...
nova scaffold
hay deino wanna hear a fun fact about quars
dapper gyro
Man, you can try, but I won't buy your game.
nova scaffold
Man, you can try, but I won't buy your game.
i just love quar
its enjoyable and the lore is pretty enjoyable to read
and i have alot of armies
dapper gyro
I can only keep up with semi mainstream stuff (40K used to be that).
nova scaffold
I can only keep up with semi mainstream stuff (40K used to be that).
its mainstream warhammer is
nova scaffold
Man, you can try, but I won't buy your game.
btw i didnt made the game lol
dapper gyro
You know, I'm bored, so shoot it.
crystal forum
you know the standard crusader rifle shoots 50 cal and the heavy rifle shoots 20...
what kind of fanart bullshit is this
you can tell it's fanart from the low effort drawing and disproportional amount of lore text
rocky gale
Seems like that's their official artstyle
winged jacinth
Back in the musket days and slightly after, big bores were common.
Before we worked out really high breech pressures to get our bullets moving really fast it was really the only way to put more energy downrange
Also anti-fouling powder
The bigger your bore the more fouling you can tolerate
spare osprey
Seems like that's their official artstyle
this feels like it's from another dimension
i kinda love it
nova scaffold
You know, I'm bored, so shoot it.
fidwogs are 10% shorter then normal quars
short kings
nova scaffold
this feels like it's from another dimension
yeah and the best part is that theirs alot to learn
spare osprey
you just said the word fidwog
nova scaffold
you can tell it's fanart from the low effort drawing and disproportional amount ...
thats offical art from the book made by the arthor
nova scaffold
you just said the word fidwog
thats the name
crystal forum
well it sucks
nova scaffold
they are named fidwog
spare osprey
thats the name
that is amazing
nova scaffold
well it sucks
thats mean
crystal forum
ok
nova scaffold
is just water color style
crystal forum
it sucks no matter the style
some children's book type shit
looks worse in model form
nova scaffold
i mean water art style do generally look like that
like its basicaly just how the shading and water color be like
is basically like how warhammer dont make anything bright exept for the astarties and eldari armor
crystal forum
yes it's bad thanks for explaining
nova scaffold
like sometime it dont work
crystal forum
and the whole helmet hiding the eyes to make it cuter thing is so overdone
storm jungle
for context @nova scaffold Jay can be rude as a joke, if he acts like that punch him in the face
🫡
nova scaffold
like theirs a really good reason why devorce papers isnt in comic sans
nova scaffold
his takes are TRASH
like deadass hes mad over a style of art
rocky gale
It's not an Imperial Guard tank so he's going to hate it
nova scaffold
why be unhappy over art style
nova scaffold
It's not an Imperial Guard tank so he's going to hate it
lol
crystal forum
It's not an Imperial Guard tank so he's going to hate it
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO INTERJECT
storm jungle
like deadass hes mad over a style of art
Hes not mad, its mostly a bit
nova scaffold
you have no right for talking shit over my beloved quars
storm jungle
Kill him. NOW.
crystal forum
i will come back more annoying
storm jungle
It's not an Imperial Guard tank so he's going to hate it
Also this lol
nova scaffold
mods! smack his balls
dapper gyro
It is an interesting choice of art style.
nova scaffold
like how he straight up unhappy over a art style
dapper gyro
Light hearted look, yet brutal theme.
winged jacinth
I like the dissonance it looks like a Scandinavian storybook
dapper gyro
https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-femscout-cbt-heavy-gif-23757029
He might enjoy it...
storm jungle
half of these look like guard vehicles so i automatically like it
spring cairn
i don't mind the artstyle personally just not a big fan of the worm creatures thing
dapper gyro
It does look like some one trying to normalize brutality of war... which is questionable for me personally. Though, I do see the appeal.
nova scaffold
i don't mind the artstyle personally just not a big fan of the worm creatures th...
those are ant eaters
they eat bugs
winged jacinth
Come on jay
I cant find a pic but there was a legendary genius lyrics annotation on some wacky bar in a jay-z song that just said "come on, jay"
sacred bluff
for context <@698973702456344597> Jay can be rude as a joke, if he acts like tha...
wow, dilara advocating for violence against the gays...
nova scaffold
we need to shave it and paint it blue
winged jacinth
Do you think that world is the same world as arthur the aardvark
winged jacinth
Or anteater or whatever arthur was
dapper gyro
Im more of a semi realistic fiction fluff kind of guy.
winged jacinth
Maybe horror and violence is happening far away and they don't hear because they're kids...
nova scaffold
Or anteater or whatever arthur was
arthur is a aardvark
btw alwyd is pretty bussin
storm jungle
wow, dilara advocating for violence against the gays...
rocky gale
It's kinda messed up that the first Arthur book was about how people bullied him for his long nose and had him coming to accept his nose as being part of him rather than wanting to "Fix it" and then in all the later designs they just gave him a normal nose
winged jacinth
Got a nose job, he caved
nova scaffold
It's kinda messed up that the first Arthur book was about how people bullied him...
thanks i hate flaccid arthur
rocky gale
The first book literally has him going to get a nose job but then deciding against it
spare osprey
i like the baeliog tractor
they remind me of like
nova scaffold
its looks so ass lmao
sour hornet
Inquisitor me being interviewed after Dark Heresy drops
rocky gale
"Originally known as Handsome Jack" oh no
jade holly
nova scaffold
too larmoth
you heard the fydrydhad cout tractor, its actually peak because it is basically toyota prius of tanks
like i have 4
its good but it has issues
like its called centipede because you need all limbs to actually use it well
like you need both feet for moving, one hand for gear shift and other to man the turret and move the turret
beside having joint pain from all limbs
its pretty good
@rocky gale btw funny thing
its made to protect the larger Morfyd Armored Carriage
each quars is slightly under 5ft tall if they exist
dapper gyro
So comical
nova scaffold
So comical
btw the reason why it has massive tracks is because creeven is vary muddy
so it will bog down if its tracks too thin
nova scaffold
So comical
so how you think of many quar tractors
i love it because its nothing like you see
dapper gyro
opaque coyote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_bulldozer
I think the god of all tanks
The Bob Semple Tank
Was basically tractor with metal and guns added to it. It was basically made with the shit Bob Semple had lying around. And in a country like New Zealand with like zero industry base. It's actually kinda impressive.
Unfortunately part of the many problems was the fact that the tractor engine simply wasn't built to hold tons of riveted steel and machine guns along with a person. It was basically a pathetic piece of dogshit. It was laughed out of ever being put into mass production
But honestly? It's still better than no tank at all tbh
It was basically a panic build in case Japan invaded New Zealand I believe
And they had all the right to panic
Luckily Japan was not interested
opaque coyote
But honestly? It's still better than no tank at all tbh
Like Bob Semple basically had the task of
"Hey, make a tank out of a tractor and some sheet metal and machine guns. We have zero factories. Oh btw, there's a possibility that an empire that literally cannibalizes people will attack us one day. Good luck."
dapper gyro
It is a mobile pillbox, but barely able to withstand anything stronger than 7.62 "full power".
opaque coyote
Yes, the Imperial Japanese officers literally ate dead soldiers. Apparently it was some type of ritual to gain their power or something.
JFK was almost eaten
I wish I made that shit up. It sounds like propaganda but it
It really wasn't unfortunately.
opaque coyote
It is a mobile pillbox, but barely able to withstand anything stronger than 7.62...
True. But at the same time, try fighting Imperial Japanese soldiers without any vehicles. In flat plains.
Ain't denying that it was shit though
But also shit is better than constipation
nocturne crest
Reminds me of this:
dapper gyro
Reminds me of this:
That's the tank that Laati was describing.
nocturne crest
Nah, this is the Disston tank, made before the Bob Semple.
Huh. I just remembered the Siegfried tank exists.
dapper gyro
Nah, this is the Disston tank, made before the Bob Semple.
It is the same thing with extra plate.
The corrugated is addon.
Wikipedia 1st picture have it half corrugated right there for you.
nocturne crest
I see.
dapper gyro
The picture you get is from some personal blog, that often time they give the wrong identification.
But to be fair, at the time, many place tried to create things from similar design. Sometimes are copy with minor modification.
The UK Tetrarch got its concept copied by many countries for light support and recce vehicles.
paper haven
Tank is being generous here
opaque coyote
Tank is being generous here
I mean does the Killdozer count as a tank?
paper haven
I mean does the Killdozer count as a tank?
More of an armored car, I'd say
paper haven
No gun
paper haven
No, the killdozer
paper haven
The Bob Simple had like 4 brens, which technically counts as being armed
opaque coyote
Were these ever put into production?
Yeah it was denied for obvious reasons
Bob Semple basically said
"Alright then, you guys got anything better?"
(they didn't)
Although luckily enough, Imperial Japan kinda were too busy to ever give New Zealand more than a glance.
crisp heath
We have bunkers on the coast line all around nz set up for the jappense there still there
Iv been to the big one in wellington
opaque coyote
Tbf imagine being a Japanese soldier and then you see a bunch of Kiwi's charging in with the Bob Semple tank
The Japanese didn't really invest that much in tanks either. But tbf they still had them so
opaque coyote
There tanks would have run circles around it
Probably but once you meet a country insane enough to use glorified tractors as APCs. You know it isn't gonna be an easy fight
That's for sure
crisp heath
Nzs firepower comes from our artillery
opaque coyote
Then again the Japanese were also crazy back then. Still are now but they've mostly mellowed out.
...except in the work and social culture department
When you have a specific word for people dying from overworking. There is a fucking problem
arctic talon
Japan's tanks were pretty good for when they were used
at least the doctrine
they just became horribly out of date
crisp heath
They were but the maori battalion was famous for how they fought , I think even if they made it here they would have been in trouble
opaque coyote
Japan's tanks were pretty good for when they were used
Yeah they weren't bad honestly. None of the Japanese weapons were.
The only real issue was that they decided to actually use them.
crisp heath
Japan had really really nice planes
opaque coyote
Japan had really really nice planes
Something that I learned was that Kamikaze pilots were actually valued.
crisp heath
Those Mitsubishis were incredibly built
crisp heath
They only did it as a last resort
They never went there w the intention of doing that
opaque coyote
But regardless, they were often very well trained and could fly back if the opportunity was
Bad
opaque coyote
They never went there w the intention of doing that
Unfortunately no, there definitely were Kamikaze units with the full intention of doing that. Kamikaze pilots was an actual rank.
Yes the Japanese were that insane.
crisp heath
I think alot of it is myth and exaggeration
opaque coyote
From a pure logistics view, it made sense. One pilot and one plane for potentially capsizing an entire ship is a good trade off
crisp heath
I know it happened but I don't see the value when usually they would be shot down long before they could
opaque coyote
I think alot of it is myth and exaggeration
crisp heath
Unless maybe you had a whole squad trying to do this?
opaque coyote
I think alot of it is myth and exaggeration
Part of it was due to Japanese culture at the time. Surrender was considered the worst fucking thing you could ever do.
Parents encouraged their kids to only come back in a body bag.
And that if they came back alive, it would bring dishonor to their family.
crisp heath
Man the pacific front was a mess
Did you know the US actually was going to invade Japan?
The same way they did at the Normandy beaches
languid meadow
That's what happens when an empire is completely taken over by their military and also have a death cult religion
crisp heath
They nuked it because they would lose too many of their boys
languid meadow
The nukes were many things
opaque coyote
Unless maybe you had a whole squad trying to do this?
Correct!
crisp heath
Because Japan could have 10 men holding a hill and they would be able to kill many more Americans so the logistics just decided to bomb the city's
opaque coyote
They had Kamikaze squads.
languid meadow
The reasons ranged from showing Japan and the world that the US could do this and has this. It was to push Japan to surrender since one the invasion would cost hundreds of thousands of civilian lives and thousands of American lives
crisp heath
The Germans used to do something similar on the eastern front they would have a man who volunteered to man a mg he would be given heaps of food and snacks and the rest would leave and his job would be to slow the Russians down
Thats Grim
opaque coyote
They nuked it because they would lose too many of their boys
Partially because of that.
Partially because the nukes were originally made for Nazi Germany.
Gotta use it somewhere
crisp heath
I didn't know this !
opaque coyote
Yeah, but by the time they were done, Nazi Germany was basically fucking dead.
So they switched targets
crisp heath
They realised they could just release the Russians on them
opaque coyote
Another reason why Japan surrendered was because of Manchuria
Basically the Russians were invading
So they had two nukes, and the Russians coming after them
crisp heath
After the war ended the Russians kept taking land for about 5-6 months the red army just didn't stop marching
opaque coyote
It also helps that the Japanese just wanted the Emperor to keep... existing. While the Nazi's pretty much accepted no such thing. It was that they'd get their 1000 year Reich (Lmao) or die.
crisp heath
The nazis would have most likely done what happened w Russia to Japan
languid meadow
Reminder that Kyoto was one of the original 5 targets but it was taken off due to one of the guys in charge of picking the targets had his honeymoon there
opaque coyote
Reminder that Kyoto was one of the original 5 targets but it was taken off due t...
Tbf I do want to visit Kyoto
I do want to go to Japan for a vacation. Sounds nice.
Never want to work there though would rather be homeless
crisp heath
Everyone seems to forget at the start of ww2 Russia and Germany were kinda allies
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
Everyone seems to forget at the start of ww2 Russia and Germany were kinda allie...
Nah less that more "I won't kill you for now"
Both Stalin and Hitler knew that they would eventually backstab each other
crisp heath
Yeah
opaque coyote
The reason why Stalin went into his room after he heard Hitler betrayed him wasn't because he was shocked by the betrayal.
But that he just wasn't in a good position at the moment.
languid meadow
one of Nazism's core tenants is Bolsheviks should be killed, that's why I hate when people say "Germany would've won if they didn't attack the Soviet Union" WELL THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE NAZIS AND THE WAR WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A THING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
opaque coyote
one of Nazism's core tenants is Bolsheviks should be killed, that's why I hate w...
Basically the only way Germany would have won
Is if they weren't Nazis.
...or they found ancient Jewish technology
One or the other
crisp heath
So many people don't actually understand what they were its so painful
languid meadow
Yeah all of the scenarios people suggest would not make them Nazis and at that point the war wouldn't have happened, since then we would need to go all the way back to the 20s-30s and possibly even earlier to stop the rise of the Nazis. Which at that point just make a more interesting ALT timeline
crisp heath
I had someone tryna deny all the eastern Europe genocide because those people are "white"
I know
U can't make this up
opaque coyote
There are some crazy alternative delusions
opaque coyote
I had someone tryna deny all the eastern Europe genocide because those people ar...
The funniest part is that the Nazi's stopped doing stuff like archaeology because they kept finding stuff that proved that Aryans didn't do a lot of technological advancement
languid meadow
If you want WW2 to happen but no Nazis just go look at Kaiserreich or something
dire loom
We humans don't need much to start a war tbh.
languid meadow
The funniest part is that the Nazi's stopped doing stuff like archaeology becaus...
”Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It's bad enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone ax he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these revelations.”
dire loom
It could literally be over a can of beans..
Humanity will find a way to declare war on itself for whatever reasons.
languid meadow
Aryans are Indo-Iranians iirc
crisp heath
Sometimes we do it for money
opaque coyote
Aryans are Indo-Iranians iirc
Now that
Is the funniest fucking joke.
Try telling a Neo-Nazi rhat
dire loom
Once only one nation remains, they'll still fight themselves.
There is only WAR.
Simple as
crisp heath
It's like someone tried to tell me thar ancient Greeks were white and blonde hair
dire loom
Imperium is one perfect example of only one big main human faction, but still has game of thrones levels of infighting etc.
languid meadow
They would deny up and down because being a Nazi and even more so a Neo-Nazi requires some serious mental disassociation, their view of reality is fundamentally different from ours.
crisp heath
I was like dude their in tbe Mediterranean
languid meadow
Stupid fucking streamers complaining about BF6 has led me to find an beautiful gun
opaque coyote
How is BF6 anyways
languid meadow
https://youtu.be/ClT_91TkDjQ?si=ZOu9eu4Pq15uRVHA This is the gun they're complaing about in BF6 for "having no recoil"
languid meadow
How is BF6 anyways
Looks good so far, the open beta is the 9th - 10th iirc
and another one next week
opaque coyote
Looks good so far, the open beta is the 9th - 10th iirc
Hopefully it isn't dogshit like uh
The previous one
💀
What era is it in btw
Modern?
languid meadow
2027
languid meadow
the only thing that seems to be a bit futuristic is the lil class gadgets but those have always been a bit wacky in every era of BF
opaque coyote
Also another thing I am confused about in general is
Why are most pvp shooters that are futuristic are generally kinda just
Uncreative with the guns
languid meadow
I think Infinite warfare was kind of cool
opaque coyote
It's like 2168, and yet you choose to make the M16 but with more shit added onto it and with blue bullets
Where the fuck are the wacky shit
opaque coyote
Some guns from Infinite Warfare were cool looking
dire loom
Any M8 niche enjoyers out there?
opaque coyote
Any M8 niche enjoyers out there?
Sorry
But the whar
languid meadow
WE WERE ROBBED
languid meadow
Starfield gets a lot of shit for weapon design and rightfully so, BUTTTTT the mag guns are so good and well made ngl
This is a real future gun
opaque coyote
Where the fuck are the wacky shit
Personally I just wish we got weapons that are basically 40k tier.
Like if you're gonna have it take place in the future? Why not have it be shit like Bolters?
Where are the plasma guns?