40k-lore-chat

[dapper gyro]

With chained feet...

[storm jungle]

bro these devs man

[dapper gyro]

Stop thinking

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

they should have put Luke in a speedo for his summer costume

I mean what

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-5852846

[queen laurel]

That's the capcom woman's specialty because they made this new character that is a 6'8 and 269 lbs spartan lady

[fervent gull]

Does grenadier guardsman support normal guardsman like the 6th's grenadiers does?

Or are they a separate branch like scions?

[arctic talon]

For DKOK?

no

they're a seperate group

They're regimental stormtroopers

[fervent gull]

What is DKOK btw?

[arctic talon]

Death Korps of Krieg

I'm assuming you mean that for grenadiers

[arctic talon]

all the weights in SF make no sense

lol

Akuma is like 190 pounds

[queen laurel]

Death korps of krieg

[fervent gull]

Yeah I saw a krieg grenadier on the wiki page

[storm jungle]

yeah the stormtroopers of the 6th are the Scab Gunners

[fervent gull]

I thought every regiment had grenadiers

[storm jungle]

stormtroopers are an old concept for guard regiments GW kinda entirely abandoned for branding reasons

[arctic talon]

oh you mean grenadiers

as in like

people who throw grenades

no those would be assigned squad roles mostly

[arctic talon]

Jamie is my favorite iteration of any drunken master because his jacket blows open when he gets drunk

[dapper gyro]

Fahkumram in Tekken 8 is as tall as an SM, lol.

[plush mason]

dont the guard have grenade launchers? i dont see them outside of dow1 really

[arctic talon]

They do yeah

they're special weapons

[storm jungle]

Yeah again just not shown for uhhh

[arctic talon]

but a grenadier in squad is different from a Grenade launcher

[storm jungle]

tabletop recognisably mostly

[arctic talon]

Dilara its literally on the weapon sprue for Cadians

[storm jungle]

yeah those are stormtroopers

[fervent gull]

Metro situation

[storm jungle]

I didnt even see it, post

[fervent gull]

Will text after some time

[queen laurel]

i mean Capcom is like, OK so our poison guy was not working well let's make it into a lady

[storm jungle]

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATT

[dapper gyro]

AKI is so eh.

[storm jungle]

nah

[plush mason]

her victory animation is something else

[storm jungle]

shes peak character design

[arctic talon]

Aki is fun

[storm jungle]

I love how much of a cute creep she is

[arctic talon]

her name is technically A.K.I which is even funnier

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/aki-street-fighter-shaking-shiver-me-timbers-she-got-me-like-gif-12954323100776603106

[arctic talon]

we still don't know wtf F.A.N.G stands for

[storm jungle]

me forcing a person to read the lexi

[arctic talon]

truth nuke

[storm jungle]

(their entire body is paralyzed)

[arctic talon]

oh also F.A.N.G got a redesign in 6

and looks better imo

[plush mason]

do you also shout "my magnum opus" when you do that?

[dapper gyro]

Grenadier has many meanings, even in real life.

[arctic talon]

the tighter suit helps

[dapper gyro]

Too bad SF6 doesn't have cloth code like SF5.

[queen laurel]

So what is he doing now that shadaloo is gone

[dapper gyro]

That cloth code was a big selling point.

[arctic talon]

trying to revive Bison and some psycho power stuff

also selling medicine

[plush mason]

all this talk of fighting games reminded me that Sony is launching a new fight stick controller

[queen laurel]

well that's good i think for him anyway

[arctic talon]

idk lol

[crystal forum]

god i wish this channel was about another ip so i could talk about non 40k stuff with the lads i enjoy

[fervent gull]

Metro finally resurfaced I'm back

[arctic talon]

welcome back

[fervent gull]

So no grenadiers now?

[arctic talon]

but regarding the bombers in the Moebian Sixth they seem to just be normal squad embeded grenadiers

[arctic talon]

no they exist still

GW just doesn't mention most regimental stormtroopers now

lol

[dapper gyro]

Tempestus Scion literally means Storm Trooper...

[fervent gull]

Hmmm

[storm jungle]

Yeah because uh

when you search for stormtroopers

[queen laurel]

we were literally talking about fighting games just now

[storm jungle]

you instantly get linked to non-Warhammer content

which is one of the reaasons why The Big Rebranding™ happened

[dapper gyro]

They used the Tempestus Scion name for a reason.

[arctic talon]

We only get Kasrkin, catachan devils, DKOK grenadiers, Royal volpones, Ork hunter firesweep teams, and Armaggedon Steel Legion stormtroopers

[crystal forum]

they're actually cadian stormtroopers

[arctic talon]

I'm assuming

when we get more lore

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

they're renaming Armaggedon steel legion stormtroopers lol

[storm jungle]

basically the concept exists

but like

GW ever barely invested in it as is

lol

[arctic talon]

yeah

GW had like

[fervent gull]

Okay I get it

[arctic talon]

negative fucking lore for them

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

it was ALL KASRKIN LORE BABY

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

[arctic talon]

YOU ALL LOVE CADIANS DON'T YA

[crystal forum]

i want to eat a cadian

[arctic talon]

and then the 3e metal kasrkin mould got stolen

Rip Kasrkin mould

[dapper gyro]

Catachan is "Devil" everything.

[arctic talon]

we did find out what happened to you at least

shit ended up on ebay a few years ago

[dapper gyro]

And Krieger uses all of the old terms.

[crystal forum]

please tell me FBI did something

[celest dome]

I thought that the Armageddon Ork Hunters were the Karskin equivalent

[arctic talon]

Nah

the Ork hunters are a seperate regiment

from the same planet

[fervent gull]

🍿

[arctic talon]

don't think about it too hard

[storm jungle]

Ork Hunters are a special sub-regiment yeah

[crystal forum]

where's the top regiment

[arctic talon]

They have a stormtrooper squad called a firesweep squad

[storm jungle]

also was going through the kasrkin lexi page

Lmao I can HEAR the Cadian seething/racism

[arctic talon]

the Cadians would

be

SO racist lol

[storm jungle]

They actually are in the novels

[crystal forum]

what the fuck tallarn

[arctic talon]

well yeah

[storm jungle]

they literally call themselves "pureblooded cadians"

and like

[arctic talon]

regiments often grab dregs

[storm jungle]

look down on these people

[crystal forum]

cadia is stealing other regiment troops now

[arctic talon]

from dead regiments

yes

this has been a thing

since 2e

all the regiments do this

[storm jungle]

Wokedia....

[crystal forum]

how about you string some sentences like you string code bozo

[arctic talon]

I hope you stub your toe for 5000 years

[storm jungle]

but yeah regiments can refill using non-natives, its why regimental identity is a big thing to some to the point of like... actual racism/ethicity

which i guess kinda still applies for planets?

especially if we use our modicum of countries IRL lol

[arctic talon]

Me watching the catachan go on about how pure their blood is

[storm jungle]

its kinda like how our Turkish president is like

"YEAH ITS ALL THE SYRIANS FAULT"

[queen laurel]

I just called that guy a slur

what Slur

CADIAN

[storm jungle]

We literally look the same

[fervent gull]

Dilara no

Please

[storm jungle]

Too late

[fervent gull]

I dont want to hear him on 40k lore chat too 😭

[storm jungle]

Mandated Edict: Vodaphone recharger

[fervent gull]

Ban esims

[dapper gyro]

In 40K earth, there is a regiment made from every other regiment together, lol.

Terran Redemptionists

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Terran_Redemptionists

[fervent gull]

Looks cool af

All in one

[dapper gyro]

On Tekken earlier, this guy is 7'5" barefoot, the size of a fucking SM. So damn over the top. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tekken/images/f/ff/Fahk_Tekken_8_Render_Full.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20250709233521&path-prefix=en

[storm jungle]

Mmm yes

a fine specimen

[dapper gyro]

His shoulders are SM pauldron ready.

[plush mason]

those ropes look like muay thai fighting ropes

[dapper gyro]

In game, he is from Thailand.

Replace an older Muay Thai character named Bruce, who is American.

[plush mason]

so he does use muay thai

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it probably would be considered tech Heresy to actually make it ergonomic

"YOU DIDN'T GET THE PATTERN FROM THE STC?"

"...bro I literally just added a stock to it. It's for the Arbite-"

"SERVITORIZATION WILL BE A MERCY COMPARED TO WHAT I WILL DO WITH YOU."

insert screams of the tortured and damned here

Cawl whistling in the background

Although now I'm wondering what a Bolter made for baseline humans would be like

[vagrant fox]

more or less the same

[radiant lance]

I honestly forgot the terminus decree was a thing for a while but left as one of those loose end plot hooks or whatever

[storm jungle]

pretty much my reaction

people are gonna move on from this shit in ike 2 weeks

literally a nothing-burger lol

[radiant lance]

Such is the power of the Terminus Decree that it is to be opened only in humanity's darkest hour, when all hope for the race is lost. What happens once the box is opened and the decree is spoken by the Supreme Grand Master is infinitely dangerous and will either save mankind from certain defeat or doom it to oblivion for all eternity. In this capacity it is the ultimate sanction of the Grey Knights, to be used only as a last resort, when all other options have failed.[1]
And then Kaldor Draigo said "you better sit your silly ass back down"

The word of power of "sit"
good dog

[arctic talon]

There’s many situations when the info in the box isn’t useful

Which is even funnier

[radiant lance]

The original description was way more interesting than "well, time to put him back on the chair"

[arctic talon]

That adds to it imo

[arctic talon]

The mystery better

But meh

The reveal is very w/e

[storm jungle]

^

prob even shorter since theres not much queer elements to grift on with this lore 😔

[radiant lance]

Imagine the nids like right outside the solar system, Draigo pulls out the box as a trump card, and then he just reads *sit yo silly ass back down"

[arctic talon]

“Fuck this is useless”

[storm jungle]

They'd just find some other way to defeat them

Like

people need to realise

this universe works on comic book logic lol

[radiant lance]

Draigo when opening the box to fight off a nid invasion right outside terra

[storm jungle]

basically peak form of 40k

[radiant lance]

Grimderp

[storm jungle]

Its not

lol

[radiant lance]

I also recently learned the Ordo Chronos started a civil war because Robot Gillman wanted a new calendar

And there's a minor Ordo that is there to prevent people from learning how the inquisition was formed
And another Ordo that wants to learn how the inquisition was formed

[storm jungle]

Yes. Thats the Imperium.

[radiant lance]

I really just have a love-hate relationship with the lore

"load bearing walls have been banned from this city"

[storm jungle]

I mean

is that a problem

[radiant lance]

cries in civil engineering

[storm jungle]

human stupidity has no limits

[sacred ginkgo]

I’d say it’s limited by the tools available to enact it

Which we of course have boundless capacity to create

[radiant lance]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/s/V9Y0LEM9ps

Read this take

What if.... the Grey Knights move in full chapter strength to get the Emperor back on the throne only to be absolutely obliterated by the defenses of Terra, the Custodes and the Sisters of Silence. You'd have hundreds of the strongest psykers and purest souls in the entire universe dying in rapid succession. Almost like the old lore about the Emperor being birthed from the mass ritualistic suicides of the ancient shaman. Boom, Starchild prophecy- Emperor is reborn out of the Grey Knights' unwitting sacrifice.

It's my new head canon just to have a semblance of "yeah this has some logic to it"

[storm jungle]

Okay so like

[radiant lance]

And then GW squats the sister of silence, grey knights, and custodes, and we make a new IP --- Age of Jimmy

[storm jungle]

the entry says IF it come sdown to it

they can literally just fucking show up and say what they are here to do and see where that goes too you know lol

[radiant lance]

It's 40k
They're gonna shoot each other as per imperium fashion

[storm jungle]

Not really.

We got no idea what they can or will do.

As ever yall mfers jump to the most weirdest conclusions to whinge about stuff.

Nothing is gonna come out of this.

People will forget it in 2 weeks.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-smoking-blunt-blehskibidi-gif-4336732105413285679

[sacred ginkgo]

At least it’s an entire paragraph of lore

And not 1 line

It can always be worse

[radiant lance]

Or the hilarious time it was literally just one word --- "she"

And thus begins the 40k fandom age of strife

Also, no one will convince me from believing that the lost primarchs were two women, and Papi Emps struck them from history because he got really fucking sick of the mommy memes

[plush mason]

i like this take

[storm jungle]

New meme is forged

[raven stone]

Some comic artist kind of covered this take

[queen laurel]

how is the emperor RETURNING considered humanity's darkest hour

it's kind of funny

[storm jungle]

idfk

[raven stone]

Yea the lore for Terminus Decree is weird

It isn't the end of the world

But weird

[arctic talon]

Chaos god ascension maybe

Who tf knows

The emperor clearly had an idea

A horrid one lol

[plush mason]

the Dark King

plus the new eye of terror that would form where Terra is

[raven stone]

I mean to be fair, Coming Back Wrong is a common horror theme

[plush mason]

yup

[raven stone]

And it can be construed the Terminus Decree is designed for that

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-dance-tf2-soldier-tf2-gif-1291566749022407892

[raven stone]

But whoever wrote the lore paragraph expressed it badly lol

[plush mason]

it is yeah, a contingency plan

so like

[arctic talon]

Def

[queen laurel]

It is very funny to read how he considered him returning and giving humanity a chance its darkest hour

[plush mason]

the SOS and Custodians would likely help the GK carry it out

[arctic talon]

Tbh depending on the situation the custodes might not

At the end of the day it’s open to interpretation how he’d come back wrong imo

[plush mason]

wasnt the Dark King the fate he was trying to avoid per the end and the death?

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its basically inevitable

he will get born anew one day

[arctic talon]

^

The dark king already exist at some point in time

[plush mason]

and thus stuff like the terminus decree

[arctic talon]

Samus’s existence proves it

Despite Samus being

Awful as a character

[queen laurel]

and when that happens we will get warhammer 40K age of the emperor

[arctic talon]

He is proof the dark king is born

[plush mason]

a complete hellmary contingency plan that has little hope of success and just a way to try and hold off the inevitable

[raven stone]

On a less serious note

The Decree also exists because you can bet

If Emps Came Back Wrong

90% of Imperium would be like "but we can't kill the Emperor that is Heresy"

[plush mason]

"come back wrong" implies he can come back right at all, the dark king is how he comes back end of story

[arctic talon]

He could come back in another way in theory

The shards coming back together which uh

Isn’t gona happen lol

[storm jungle]

it might

but like

in 20-30 IRL years

lol

[raven stone]

...I see my attempt to joke about Imperium having a theological/philosophical aneurysm should Emps turn against humanity has failed :p

[plush mason]

bro has a 99.999% chance of coming back as the ultimate evil so ofc he tried his best to make the 0.001% chance outcome happen

[queen laurel]

Still though GW still can't keep a secret

eventually everything will be revealed in a matter of years

[plush mason]

when ever they want to move the plot forward yeah

[raven stone]

And it will mostly feel disappointing, either because it really is badly written, OR fandom hyped the secret up a bit too much. Or both.

[plush mason]

for feel 40k rules need an end times like reset for some reason

yup

[raven stone]

Bring on the Eastern/Western Roman Empire era I say

Now that Imperium is split in two anyways

[plush mason]

didnt they already kinda do that

[raven stone]

Not completely yet

We only started

Have yet to get like two capitals

Or greater divergence of culture

[plush mason]

well nihilus basically just skipped ahead to the fall of the western empire

[raven stone]

Man they don't advertise that far enough then lol

The marketing made it more like forgettable Marine Slop sadly (no offence to Nihilus lore likers)

[plush mason]

afaik its just chaos and xenos running amuck and the few imperial forces barely holding on

[raven stone]

But yea if Terra is Rome we have yet to see 40k's version of Constantinople (apologies for bad spelling)

Most likely gonna be Lion in charge unless they cook up someone else

[plush mason]

its not Rome its Constantinople

because Sanctis is the eastern roman empire

basically

[raven stone]

...man I am getting out of touch with the analogies lol

But you get the point

[plush mason]

yeah

and like i said nihilus just skipped ahead to the point where rome fell and the western empire just became a bunch of warring states

[raven stone]

Oof

Yea big missed opportunity there lore wise

Would have been interesting to see two different Imperiums - just enough to not hate each other but different enough to find each other strange/slightly heretical

[paper haven]

Starting to see a lot of terminus decree memes floating around.

[storm jungle]

Heres the only good one

[plush mason]

facts

[queen laurel]

The fandom does have the attention span of an ork

But you know they will just save this in the bad lore memory banks

And will bring it up in the future every time they say GW is going bad or some ****

[plush mason]

idk, they stopped talking about the femstodies fairly quickly

the tithes series being well liked over all helped ofc

[queen laurel]

i said save this in the bad lore memory banks to use for later

they forget about it but there are still some people that yammer about it

[plush mason]

the grifters arent willing to talk shit about stuff that is too popular

[gaunt lily]

tbf an imperial schism could still be made from the imperium being split in two now that the blood angels have regency over nihilus

knowing what it means to be cut from the emperors light and knowing they cant rely on Terra and Sanctus to easily aid them from across the rift should inevitably result in deviations and plans

cue the Terran high lords getting pissy about a percieved lack of faith, not having full control etc and you could absolutely manufacture a soft imperial civil war

the writers probably wont but still

[plush mason]

hm, did getting cut off from half the resources of the imperium lead to sudden and mass supply shortages on Terra?

[gaunt lily]

most trade is localised i think

with the exception of any unobtanium things that come from one specific planet, but those would be specialties rather than critical bread and butter supply stuff

[raven stone]

Yea, given how warp travel ironically limits travelling across the Imperium per se

With a pilgrimage to Terra said to take a lifetime

The most disrupted trade routes would be the ones smack bang in the middle of where the right opened.

There would be secondary disruptions with those worlds directly affected, but beyond that the cascade impact should gradually decrease.

[storm jungle]

When traffic even jams/stops above the orbit of the planet millions die of starvation lol

[plush mason]

true

[raven stone]

Only in 40k XD.

But realistically, even in other sci fi settings, yea, if you have no way to transport the stuff from the ship to the ground, starvation is still gonna be a problem.

Looks at Outriders the game lore

[rocky gale]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/dpjkoxo7/saturnine-terminator-construction-advice-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-your-new-tactical-dreadnought-armour/

Huh a guide on how to build them on WarCom

A dramatic change

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beesly-theyre-the-same-picture-the-same-picture-they-are-the-same-picture-gif-20830121

[celest dome]

Did, did they pick the wrong picture to put them in the post ?

[shadow plover]

To be fair head direction does massively affect the feel of the model but these pictures aren't the best to demonstrate that

[plush mason]

that is true

[surreal nest]

Yeah I'm honestly over it. Every single day is a new grift for warhammer fans who don't read any of the lore to get furious over something that somebody told them is actually really stupid

I genuinely think warhammer fans have the inability to interpret media. Anytime there's a vague lore addition it's the worst possible conclusion these morons cling onto

[plush mason]

media literacy has long been non existent in the internet

[surreal nest]

Completely fair point

[queen laurel]

That's just Internet in general

[celest dome]

Not just warhammer fans sadly

[queen laurel]

People can't focus or look for details

nowadays

[surreal nest]

It's a rough reminder

[plush mason]

too much info and too much proof that you cant trust any source

so people just run with whatever they agree with and dont think beyond that

[surreal nest]

It's tragic

I'm not gonna say GW doesn't do crazy shit that makes lore cry, but I really don't think the grey knight lore is bad at all. It's still vague enough to inspire discussion

[plush mason]

its literally just a oh shit button

that will most likely never get used

[surreal nest]

A lot of people are reading that and saying stuff like "how would the GK besiege terra" and its like why are u so stupid

what if like terra gets crazy demon shit and GK arrive amid the chaos we dont fucking know

[plush mason]

yeah people are jumping to the conclusion they would have to

[surreal nest]

No fr

[plush mason]

hell depending on how it happens the custodians and the sos would help them kill/trap the emperor

[surreal nest]

There are so many possibilities just chalking it up to "GK wouldn't survive trying to randomly walk into terra yelling bad emperor bad!" is so cringe

[plush mason]

yeah

[surreal nest]

I'm honestly excited to see if it eventually leads to something it got me pondering

[storm jungle]

If it isnt women its "they are changing the lore!"

says the man whos been in the "hobby" for like 1 year

[plush mason]

40k has a problem of fanon being passed off as canon on various subreddits/other forums i have found, makes things kinda difficult

[surreal nest]

Man that whole custodes outrage made me so fucking angry it was terrible. The fact that they treat a retcon as "gaslighting"

[raven stone]

Helping even less is when GW, at times, just takes (some) of it and makes it Canon.

OK so they are not the only ones who do that but when you do it in a very direct way...

[surreal nest]

Like sure man I guess the rogal dorn battle tank existing during cadia suddenly is gaslighting too!

[plush mason]

yup

[queen laurel]

You should have seen their reaction to the wraith bone changes

[surreal nest]

Let me hear it

[storm jungle]

GW's way of handling it was clunky but one reaction I saw kinda summed it up.

"Wait so, big women are being added to 40k, and people are mad about this? Man warhammer fans are deranged."

[queen laurel]

it was literally a nothing burger change

Apparently you can just now find these things lying around instead of having to use psychic power to solidify them and apparently that's enough to get them really angry

Even though you can ignore the whole finding them lying around on a random planet type beat

[surreal nest]

Yeah I absolutely agree there were a million different ways to handle it, ita a shame outrage addicts can't actually criticize something without screaming about marginalized groups in their hobby!

[surreal nest]

Thats so on par for warhammer fans omg

[raven stone]

As a weird tangent, as much as I do not care for women custodes, some people do have weird lines about what cannot be treated as fetishism source media

Even I have such quirks, but in my case, nothing to do with gender, more just "fetishism don't gel with 40k tone in general"

[queen laurel]

This entire thing is apparently enough for them to go ballistic on GW for a good minute

[surreal nest]

The world is sunshine and lollipops to me when I'm listening to audio books or reading new lore updates in kicking my feet smiling loving it

[queen laurel]

even though it's literally so forgettable of a change you can ignore it

[plush mason]

so like, they still have witch hunters in age of sigmar? are they still officially called the templars of sigmar?

[surreal nest]

Holy shit its insanity

"They basically said then the emperor rose!!!!"

First 40k community ive seen that actually digests the lore and is normal good job friends

[plush mason]

it helps having mods that actually read the books/play the tt

able to prune the bad apples

[storm jungle]

Cant as ever wait for people to stop talking about this in 1-2 weeks like nothing happened

🙏

[surreal nest]

I've gotten into the habit of blocking people/content creators who are overtly farming outrage media and its been so fucking peaceful

[plush mason]

the best option imo

[green loom]

You don't need the rift

The imperium splinters and fucks itself nonstop

Always has

[gaunt lily]

yeah thats more the imperial lords warring states within the wider imperium rather than the imperium divided though

ala east and west rome

granted so long as guilliman doesnt get distracted such a schism probably wouldnt happen despite the imperium being literally split in two

[storm jungle]

I only started doing that earlier this year

the block feature is not used enough

[gaunt lily]

the amount of outrage stuff youtube pushes is outrageous, pun intended

i fear for people who live off youtube shorts

[vagrant fox]

You gotta prune and curate your online experience, as much as you can anyways

[plush mason]

yup

like a garden, if you dont maintain it it will be quickly overrun with nothing but weeds

[storm jungle]

^

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-pyro-team-fortress-burn-in-flame-fire-gif-15811879

that is good but also i just do this

[plush mason]

well that is a way to prune

so it works

[raven stone]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgnmel8l5ko.amp

Night Lords: laughing

[young pecan]

I curate my online experience to be as much mentally-detrimental truth nuking as possible

It. Works great

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-eye-twitch-twitching-gif-4770864

[winged jacinth]

I always miss good stuff when im busy...

"Why are the eldar such assholes"
The species of alien witches talking to the theocracy who's top two commandments are killing aliens and witches:

[stiff crest]

orks are the better eldar anyway

old and wise

[dapper gyro]

What are we mad about today?

[vagrant fox]

I don't know, how about the old ones

[nocturne crest]

I've spent the day wondering what people would say if exodites became playable, but they got Human cultists.

[wet sandal]

another army is the last thing 40k needs

[arctic talon]

I’d rather GW chill on army releases for a while

[wet sandal]

we have like 4 armies that have half the units they should

[arctic talon]

And fucking bulk out existing armies

LoV, 3 of the cult legions, Dark Eldar

All have pathetically small ranges in comparison

GSC also maybe need a shot in the arm

Harlrequins not an army anymore

Rip to a real one

[queen laurel]

LoV did get stufff so 3 of the cult legions, Dark Eldar should be next

[arctic talon]

Not enough

Ima be real

[queen laurel]

Yeah but since they got stuff already we have to wait for a while until for the next batch again

[arctic talon]

None of the factions that get their own codex should have less stuff then a codex supplement lol

[arctic talon]

Which is why I don’t want a new army next edition

I want them to focus on bulking out the existing armies

[queen laurel]

yeah true

[arctic talon]

Besides if we were to get another eldar army I’d want corsairs

[queen laurel]

Bulking up armies would be great

[celest dome]

Why would Exodites need human cultists ?

[arctic talon]

To make them hordey/j

[celest dome]

In that case why not just give them some Raptors

Small dino to work as fast horde blobs

[nocturne crest]

Because mon'keighs are cheaper

[rose thorn]

You guys see the new warcom article

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/dpjkoxo7/saturnine-terminator-construction-advice-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-your-new-tactical-dreadnought-armour/

[queen laurel]

Yeah we did

Larmy posted it here

[rose thorn]

They really, really, ran out of ideas huh

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, I still think they should have put that silly bolter gun above the head on the model.

[rose thorn]

Next week how about how we decided on printing for the box

[storm jungle]

Maybe later lol

i like it

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, I'm waiting for the article to show all the models in the saturnite boxset in 2nd founding chapter colours.

We've had GW showing off some MK 2/3 in pre-primarch legion colours.

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-on-to-knees-pornacore-gif-9240309648637971053

[gaunt lily]

i would actually really like some sort of GSC heavy weapons team equivalent

[arctic talon]

would be nice

A bunch of Acolytes(?) with heavy mining gear

hell give them a mega sized melta cutter as well

[gaunt lily]

i still remember in 8th when taking brood brothers was easier and it felt like everyone borrowed atleast one heavy weapons team for mortars just for the utility lol

but yeah you could get some really interesting profiles out of HWT+junky mining equipment

[arctic talon]

Mining laser

on meth

Have 2 modes, the normal firing mode that the current one has

and some sort of high intensity one

[gaunt lily]

i mean ridgerunner has heavy mining laser, originally the mining laser was lascannon equivelent

apparently a non astartes running around with a lascannon wasnt acceptable so they nerfed it

[arctic talon]

I want an even bigger one

I know it was a las cannon equivelent back in the day because I was on the receiving end repeatedly

It’s a shame it got nerfed

[nocturne crest]

Would it make sense for GSC to weaponise Ambulls?

[arctic talon]

No point

[nocturne crest]

Wait, the Ambots

[gaunt lily]

maybe? i feel like it would be easier for them to infect some ogryns

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Can also just like

[queen laurel]

also Abominants I'm pretty sure is already enough muscle

[arctic talon]

Have an abominant

Yeah

[gaunt lily]

but what if abominant, but thicker

so long as GSC doesnt get another character it should be interesting

[nocturne crest]

GSC tech-priest subfaction

[celest dome]

Malstrain

[gaunt lily]

feels kinda bad that they nerfed magus and then added big brain magus with the psyker powers magus shouldve had

[celest dome]

I want the GSC to get an ULM (ultra light airplane)

[queen laurel]

that's cult of the bladed cog my guy

[gaunt lily]

but yeah i could imagine some kind of improvised dustbin mortar for indirect fire, a juiced up mining laser or autocannon for traditional shooting and then some kind of thermal lance as a short range multi-melta/heavy flamer equivalent/hybrid?

[arctic talon]

Would be cool

[gaunt lily]

combined with cult ambush deep strike shenanigans i could imagine it adding a bit more depth to cult shooting in combination with the usual neophytes and ridgerunners

dark eldar seems to be up for new models soon it feels like

[languid meadow]

I would love to see what genestealer infected skitarii look like

wicked premise

[queen laurel]

Yeah it would be sick

[opaque coyote]

What would be the Warhammer version of this

[storm jungle]

CRANE NOOOOO

[tough haven]

Never will see it cause it’s xenos

[tough haven]

The Homophobic space marine when the the Psychomancer says “I don’t need my nightmare shroud for this” and starts to make out with the plasmancer

[paper haven]

I don't think space Marines can be homophobic. They don't seem to understand sexuality at all, so two guys kissing will have the same impact as anyone else, almost none. Perhaps some mild confusion.

[cursive ice]

it strengthens their brotherhood

(spartan reference)

[storm jungle]

Me when I tell chuds who idolize people like spartans what they got up to in their off-time

😭

[dapper gyro]

Even if they are, what are they going to do? Kill the human? They already do that.

[paper haven]

I've actually heard people argue that those relationships were consenting.

[storm jungle]

God

💀

like im sure SOME were but majority hell nah

dominance and being stuff like the "giver" to a male lover were like very creepy societal things back then, im pretty sure spartans to some extent probaby still carried that principle too

[dapper gyro]

Same vibe as oil wrestling

I wonder if there is any Ottoman inspired chapter doing that.

[nocturne crest]

Same!

[paper haven]

My perfect warrior society when they lose most of their citizens in a single battle

But they were totally badass guys trust

[opaque coyote]

Spartan MFS be like

"Only men can receive my seed."

It is rumored that the Emperor was there taking notes.

[storm jungle]

Legit the biggest cope of the century

"Oh they held off the persian army for days"

cool, they still got slaughtered

and they were awful people, so fuck em

[paper haven]

Still lost the war

Actually, I think Persia did wind up losing the war but because all of Greece stopped fighting each other long enough to fight them

[opaque coyote]

Also ignores the fact that a lot of the soldiers were volunteers from Athens

Like much more than the Spartan warriors

[dapper gyro]

Volunteers from the neighborhood cities. Athens was still doing the negotiation.

[storm jungle]

Yeah people just act like Spartans did a big chunk of it when like no

[dapper gyro]

Athens was also far away, it takes days to send messages.

And apparently, the actual Marathon ran from Sparta to Athens to warn the Athenians about the defeat.

Brother was running for his life literally.

Correction, it was for Sparta seeking help from Athens.

So they kind of know that the are fighting a losing battle.

[paper haven]

Too many people think 300 is historically accurate

[cursive ice]

greek statue profile pictures are a plague on society

[paper haven]

Who lets their king die in an opening skirmish?

[storm jungle]

Thats another thing I love

the ENTIRE saga of the 300 is told by a spartan to hype up the rest of greece, its why people dont realise the persians in the movie look like monsters and the Immortals are depicted like monstrous orcs

its to demonize them as an invading foreign entity lol

or why the hunchbook looks like the way he does lmao

[cursive ice]

wow didnt know that was enough of a problem for someone to make art regarding it

[paper haven]

Because he's a traitorous degenerate

[dapper gyro]

The Hunch was an actual soldier who betrayed the city though.

[vagrant fox]

being morally evil just does that to you

[paper haven]

His weak breeding evident in his mutated form

[languid meadow]

This is like 3-4ish years old iirc? but yeah it came about around the height of the statue pfps

[near wasp]

[storm jungle]

Yeah but im pretty sure we got no confirmation if he was even an actual hunchback or not

[paper haven]

Not like us Spartans, who are perfect and noble am I right, fellow Spartans?

[storm jungle]

its not unusual in historical documents for the scriptors to demonize another side by giving depictions like that

[languid meadow]

ANOTHER 1000 BABIES TO THE CLIFF ! !

[storm jungle]

its an entire thing, you can google "statue pfp users" for a whole trove of it lol

[spring cairn]

witts is awesome he did a lot of cool art in the mordhau server

i knew he based like that

[dapper gyro]

I mean, if he was part of the Spartan troop, I don't think he would be a hunch.

Spartan Hoplites are like the elite, greek statues looking people.

[languid meadow]

Carthago Delenda Est, they be feeding kids to Baal !

[paper haven]

The fall of the Roman Empire is only a tragedy because I was born too late to ambush Roman legionaries in the black forest and sack Rome itself

[cursive ice]

Crazy, I minimize my time on social platforms but there was a small period where I used twitter a bit a year or so ago and they were always super insufferable and saying a lot of historically inaccurate shit

[dapper gyro]

Also, 300 are just the 300 hoplites. There are so many other troops of Sparta, not even counting other cities.

[languid meadow]

yeah they're still around but not as prevalent

[spring cairn]

such a shame most people think about these statues as monochrome, when they were painted and looked 10 times cooler in their prime

[languid meadow]

Yeah it fucking sucks.... even really historical accurate shows and movies refuse to have them painted. So most people still think they are monochrome eyesores.

[spring cairn]

the greeks painted most of their infrastructure aswell

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[languid meadow]

HBOs Rome had the city be relatively colourful at least

[storm jungle]

This literally looks like a painting

[spring cairn]

so stuff like the pantheon was actually p colourful

[storm jungle]

thats how good the set/costume design was

[spring cairn]

looks p good

[dapper gyro]

Also because many things in Rome were preserved much better than Classic Greece.

So we have good reference.

[paper haven]

The past was in black and white don't you watch the old movies GOD

[spring cairn]

you know what's peak

ancient ships

with the googly eyes and shit

awesome

[dapper gyro]

I see in Sepia.

[spring cairn]

with the big ramming piece on the front

modern ships WISH they had this much swag

[paper haven]

Instead they have missiles

[spring cairn]

lame and boring

[paper haven]

Not as aesthetically pleasing, I admit

But pretty effective

[spring cairn]

there's nothing intimate in warfare anymore

[dapper gyro]

Ranged weapons are just superior.

[spring cairn]

we have truly fallen

[paper haven]

You're right. If I can't bludgeon a man to death with a club and then get crushed by a war elephant there really just isn't a point to war

[spring cairn]

back then you had to thrust your sword inside another man

we lost the homo-erotic subtext

we lost peak

[paper haven]

The Spartans liked doing that

[spring cairn]

thrusting, ramming, slashing, grappling, wrestling, bashing...

now it's just shoot, shoot and shoot

what's the point

https://tenor.com/view/sad-steam-steam-sad-gif-9524752141311518885

[jade holly]

Fellas

I can die happy

Darksider 4 was just announced

[paper haven]

Good point. Die after you know it will be made but before it comes out and disappoints you

[jade holly]

Four player coop please

[languid meadow]

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[vagrant fox]

Coming up with a craftworld name that isn't just bastardising gaelic has to be one of the most difficult things imaginable

[tough haven]

Craftworld Lagosha

Pulled out the first thing I thought of

[tough haven]

Grey knights vs one (1) sister of silence

[languid meadow]

the rage bait will continue until moral improves

[nocturne crest]

Would anyone be for or against the Blood Ravens being replaced as the main SM representation in the next Dawn of War game?

[storm jungle]

Blood Ravens are the posterbows of DoW

they were entirely made up for the games to begin with

so they got a legacy positon

[median star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136292421211258932/1369707080268775495/ezgif-26955dee68e4a5.gif

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/indrick-boreale-dance-dawn-of-war-warhammer40k-warhammer40000-danceing-gif-20659219

[nocturne crest]

So that's a no then.

[tough haven]

How did their stealing shit lore come about

is it stated in the games? I never saw anything about it

[nocturne crest]

Second game.

[arctic talon]

Second game had a bunch of loot

[tough haven]

Ah, thats why

I avoided 2nd and third games like the plague

cause they just arent it

[crystal forum]

there's 2 types of 40k casuals

those who found the setting from dawn of war and those who found it from space marine 1

[humble shoal]

What if I found it from a cool looking cover at a barnes and noble

[crystal forum]

then you're not a casual

[humble shoal]

Shiet

[storm jungle]

Get him

[languid meadow]

Waiter Waiter more flanderization of factions

[wet sandal]

shovels
bottom text

[crystal forum]

ned flanders?

[rose thorn]

Hey does Kyria Draxus have a book they are in?

[median star]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ironstone do the macanicus have an equivalent to this

[sour hornet]

im flustered

[radiant lance]

Is the emperor good in bed?

[opaque coyote]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CeJwrOwyp2Q?si=9RGOkyt3aXLbOmQT

[opaque coyote]

Basically it's just them having artifacts from

Other space marine chapters

With zero explanation on how they are there

So people started joking about the Blood Ravens being kleptomaniacs

I still have zero idea why, but it's one of like three "old repeated fandom jokes" I still chuckle at

But we got Trazyn as the kleptomaniac now

[opaque coyote]

I am the second type. Space Marine 1 was fun as shit

Surprised still that it actually holds up graphically

It isn't Halo 4 levels of "What type of fucking magic did you guys do to make the game look this good on a fucking Xbox 360?"

But it's there mainly because style

[storm jungle]

Shes barely in anything mostly

[opaque coyote]

Also uh

Murdering Orks is fun

[storm jungle]

even her lexi is scarce since nobody adds her stuff lmao

[opaque coyote]

Some of the kills are still like absolutely brutal

I distinctly remember one where Titus literally shoves a chainsword into an Ork's stomach and the Ork just jitters due to it

[crystal forum]

it's that easy with you?

notes taken for next encounter

[opaque coyote]

And that's why people fall to Khorne because it is fun as shit

Now I haven't bought SM2 yet unfortunately

Mainly because I have an entire backlog of video games

And college

It's like the pile of shame

Except jokes on you. I will never get one because I have zero friends that are interested in 40k

Mainly because we all agree that it'd take a lot of money

Honestly besides the story being lame

I feel like a criticism I have with SM1 is the jump pack

I remember it being kinda clunky

Also the Thunder Hammer

Although tbf that is part of the point

Still used it a lot though because smacking people with a big fucking hammer compensates for clunkiness

[median star]

sm2s alright but its alure can wearoff p quickly

[opaque coyote]

Probably. I mean I'm not expecting much

Just another gorey "I KILL XENO THEN CHAOS"

Tjing

I already saw the story

It's uh

Yeah it's still boring as shit

Tbf I doubt anybody who played the first one was expecting a riveting and revolutionary story

[wet wigeon]

Whats SM1?

[opaque coyote]

But still, SM1 at least seemed like the writers were trying.

[opaque coyote]

Space Marine 1

[jade holly]

Space Marine 1

[opaque coyote]

The 40k video game

[wet wigeon]

Oh the 3rd person shooter

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[wet wigeon]

Woth the orks

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[wet wigeon]

Ehh dont lile 3rd person shooters that much

[opaque coyote]

SM2, I feel like the writers just kinda were just going along with the motions

[wet wigeon]

Only one i ever realy liked was days gone

[opaque coyote]

Since SM1 had some set up

And there was an attempt

While SM2 story writing just seems like

"Yeah uh Tyranids and then Chaos yeah"

Basically I admire it if there was an attempt and then faceplanted

Rather than

"Why even bother trying?"

Like you can feel the difference even if the result is the same

Does that make sense?

Please tell me I'm not crazy in this instance

[rose thorn]

Aw :(

[dapper gyro]

I see SM2 is more fan service than gameplay.

[crystal forum]

thank god we get to enjoy these cutting remarks every so often

[arctic talon]

She’s exclusively a rulebook character tbh

Her lore is just scattered among rulebooks and supplements

[pale coral]

The fact that the beast of Nurgle just wants friends but can’t understand that they are killing everyone they want to befriend

And then they go to into a deep depression where they pokemon evolve in a swamp

Is just really funny

[sturdy sedge]

Kek

[queen laurel]

Average marvel rivals game

[opaque coyote]

I genuinely have a question.

How bullet proof is a space marine without their armor

[sacred ginkgo]

How bullet proof is a gorilla

With more blood than it should have

[opaque coyote]

I think that if you tried to shoot a gorilla with a 9mm, you're probably fucked.

Same with a space marine. Probably would only take superficial damage

[sacred ginkgo]

There’s your answer

[opaque coyote]

But I kinda wonder what caliber would be needed to be sure

For both a gorilla and SM

Actually would bears be a better comparison?

[sacred ginkgo]

Just aim higher and hope you hit their skull right

Bears have a different muscle/fat distribution

And much different skin

For something with four legs I’d go with a moose

[opaque coyote]

Apparently if you fired a low caliber round at a gorilla's head it would literally just bounce off

[celest dome]

Their bones will stop some bullets, but not their skins

[sacred ginkgo]

The dangerous part is they won’t stop unless you shoot them somewhere that absolutely partially/totally disables them

People will shut down if you shoot them near somewhere important

A marine will keep going, even if they bleed out after they get you

[opaque coyote]

I remember an excerpt that had a dude manage to throw a spear at through Space Marines neck.

because the MF was helmetless

But also that the SM still fucking murdered the guy that threw the spear before he died

Which is some early resident evil zombie level bullshit

[celest dome]

The SM wasn't missing a helmet, the spear just went through the neck armour (weaker as its a joint)

And not sure if it was said to be thrown though

[opaque coyote]

True but it was certainly in there

[celest dome]

Why so

[opaque coyote]

I don't think it tells how long it took for him to die either

Give me a sec let me find the excerpt

"Killed ten months ago, shortly after you left. Slain by a human, of all things. An unlucky thrust with a wooden spear.’ Argel Tal tapped two fingertips against his neck. ‘Tore out most of his throat, laid it bare to the bone. I’ve never seen anything like it. Blood of the gods, I’d have laughed if it hadn’t been so pathetically tragic. He bled out before the Apothecaries could reach him, still trying to shout the whole time.’

[celest dome]

thrust

Not thrown

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I thought it was thrown

Turns out my memory was wrong

Also

"Argel Tal had seen it himself. Sar Fareth had gripped the human’s shoulder and leg, and pulled. The result came away in three bloody pieces before the Chaplain died."

So the Chaplain got most of his throat torn out. But still managed to trisect the guy before he died

...well that is

Terrifying

Honestly, I doubt much could disable a marine enough before your death.

Either way, that stone age level mf probably is in Vahalla

[opaque coyote]

Some other instances of Marines dying to non-heavy weapons include.

• In Siege of Casselax, an iron warrior died due to being trapped in rubble, and a slave basically repeatedly cutting his neck open over and over.

• In Pharos a few Night Lords died to some baseline humans with improvised weapons and small arms

This one is entirely unrelated to the topic but I find it funny.

• In Space Wolf, Vrotwulf died while polishing his bolt pistol due to it misfiring and turning his head into a chunky mess. Remember to unload your gun before you clean, kids.

[tired quiver]

Is there a lore reason why guardsmen have that little tab on the back of their armor?

[opaque coyote]

Show pic

[tired quiver]

This

What does it even do?

[celest dome]

The Admech doesn't know

[opaque coyote]

Could be a way to attach something?

[celest dome]

Backpack yes

[opaque coyote]

Looking up how bulletproof vests work

Apparently they have tabs used for attaching equipment

Usually a MOLLE (Modular Lightweight Load-carrying Equipment)

So maybe that?

Either that or it could be used to store dog tags/ID

After all Guardsmen need a way for their bodies to be identified

[cyan merlin]

Oh I actually know things about body armor
On the mini it’s sifi nonsense

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I am assuming it's probably just

"Thing there"

"Yes shape cool'

I guess I'm just trying to make up justifications

[celest dome]

Depend

A lot are just working physical jobs

[median star]

i dont remember the specifics but their was a marine whos whole thing was jumping under tanks and planting bombs to blow then up he tried it on a grav tank and was promptly pancaked

[lofty mason]

Also, if you have to worship on Chaos god, what would it be?

[celest dome]

Khorne

Or Tzeentch

[queen laurel]

Khorne

[celest dome]

Honestly would love to be a Magister turned to Khorne, having to claw the blessings and show that being a Magister doesn't make you a coward and that I deserve Khorne's attentio

[queen laurel]

i just wanna hit people with axes

[fervent gull]

How does an IG regiment in low orbit deploy to a planet? With mass valkriyes?

[celest dome]

Grav Chutes

Planetary Shuttles

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tetrarch_Heavy_Lander

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Devourer_Dropship

[median star]

was it never a problem amongst nightlord w all the flensed people they kept around and 'trophies' they like to adorn their armor w that theyd stink literally

[storm jungle]

No

lol

[misty vector]

Supposedly many of the normal space marines stink too

[storm jungle]

"Would total unhinged psychopaths be bothered by the smell of the people they kill"

idk go ask them

[sharp pollen]

i doubt he would be able to ask top irl politicians...

[stiff crest]

Oh man i missed the 300 discussion.

Its a very fun Comic Adaptation

Kickstarted Zack snyders DC career

[storm jungle]

For mostly the worse

https://tenor.com/view/wonder-woman-no-stop-gif-21382215

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/enough-champagne-death-nile-gal-gif-26477045

[sacred bluff]

Watchmen was goated

[crisp heath]

I found Dr Manhattan a bit distracting

[stiff crest]

I have a deep Respect for Zack snyders and the snyderverse

Not defending His questionable quality movies but he does His thing

[crisp heath]

Not like that @crystal forum 😭

[crystal forum]

too late

it has been recorded and archived

[vagrant fox]

zenis gazer 🫵

[stiff crest]

Gazer

[rocky gale]

Bro couldn't get his eyes off of Dr Manhattan's Long Island

[crystal forum]

a weapon to surpass the fat man

[crisp heath]

😭 why couldn't they just leave that bit out

[vagrant fox]

It's just a lil thang, every dude walking around naked got one

[storm jungle]

stop making fun of dr manhattan's SCHLONG

[stiff crest]

Just dont Look at the balls

[crisp heath]

Doesn't mean we need to see it

[vagrant fox]

If I was mister manhattan I'd make sure mine was warm temperature sized for real

[stiff crest]

The true glowstick

[storm jungle]

The human body is nothing to be ashamed of

https://tenor.com/view/chad-3letter-name-gif-21340898

nvm steroids

[crisp heath]

[rocky gale]

If I was Dr Manhattan I'd probably make myself not look like a glowing blue guy.

[stiff crest]

Why?

[rocky gale]

I don't want to look like a glowing blue guy

[stiff crest]

So the blue glowing sphere it is

Or cube

[crisp heath]

What color would u pick

[spring cairn]

ourple

[stiff crest]

Can dr Manhattan Change His color tho?

[rocky gale]

Ohh glowing purple would be cool

He could be Mr Lean

[spring cairn]

ourple guy

[crisp heath]

I mean he'd still have to glow right

[spring cairn]

hur hur hur hur

[crisp heath]

That's his whole stihck

[spring cairn]

i think his whole thing is that he's literally god

[vagrant fox]

isn't his gimmick the whole cherenkov radiation

[stiff crest]

True also the blue is Like the blue glow when the deamoncore shuts completly

[crisp heath]

That's right he put him self into a reactor core

Big dummy

[stiff crest]

So the only thing he can Change might be His form

[rocky gale]

Yea but he can make anyone see him as anything he wants

[crisp heath]

He's bringing back the blue man group

[spring cairn]

i think i'd beat him in a 1v1

low diff

[stiff crest]

Says the Bro which rohrschachesque pfp

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-kills-you-dr-manhattan-evaporate-obliterate-gif-4966053562478921479

[crystal forum]

not my type but i feel honored to have the right

did you hear that steve jobs died of ligma

[stiff crest]

Whos steve jobs

[crystal forum]

ligma balls

[stiff crest]

[rose thorn]

mannnn, she’s cool wtf. 500 more Esienhorn books.

[fervent gull]

Can I say this is the navy's version of valkyrie?

In DoW IG the guard was always using valkryies for transport

That was in a small scale tho

[rocky gale]

It's a tad bigger than a Valkyrie

It's used to transport 5 thousand guardsmen from ship to surface

[celest dome]

Valk is only 12 passenger (or 4 ogryn)

And most don't have Void seals

[remote widget]

If the space frogs had just given out some SPF 50. None of this mess would have happened

[arctic talon]

her arm mounted creature is gona eat you for that one

[arctic talon]

def not lol

the Navies Valkyrie is uh

the valkyrie

[gaunt lily]

yeah valkyries are part of the imperial navys Aeronautica Imperialis, excluding like one specific regiment i can think of all imperial guard regiments using valkyries need to have an imperial navy tactical wing attached

one of those anti heresy changes to prevent regiments having organic air assets

that said I dont really know how the Dropships fit into the Imperial Navy organisation, are they just dedicated transports permanently assigned to transport that specific regiment/company? or are the regiments kept on larger warships and only loaded onto the Dropships to be ferried to the surface? in which case how do they board them? Also how big are they?

The logistics of actually landing an imperial force on a planet feels oddly under explored, not having a book about a space D-day equivalent feels like a missed opportunity

[dapper gyro]

Because if they go deep into logistic, the setting will be way more grounded and eliminate the fantasy factor.

Like in Starship Trooper, which goes more into logistic. If you actual read the book and not some internet citation, their power armour is pretty shit. The main gun has 30 round with 4 spare magazines. The Mobile Infantry were fighting threats way weaker than them.

The suit is a weapon platform for nuke and propaganda. It destroys tanks... in commercials.

[gaunt lily]

Blessed be the imperial armor books, discoverer of logistics

yes i did just spend the last 30 mins transcribing this lol

TLDR the regiments were boarded into transports specifically arranged for the invasion and get transferred into company sized landing crafts for the decent from low orbit

the tallarn 17th consisting of about 10000 personnel was distributed across 3 transports, which considering its a chonker of a regiment compared to the others depicted in the campaign makes sense

being unable to land more than 1 regiment at once was a limitation due to the lack of landing craft, no specific transport or landing craft classes were mentioned but it suggests transports like the Tetrarch or Devourer that are also capable of landing arent ubiquitous

[dapper gyro]

Regiment size in 40K varies quite a bit, in some case it is magnitude levels.

[gaunt lily]

yeah the examples of kreig seige regiments also come from imperial armor books, but most examples of regiments are around 2-8k from what ive seen

[dapper gyro]

Also, putting a whole regiment in 1 transport would lead to a 1 hit sweep of said regiment.

[gaunt lily]

honestly it makes sense to just build a bunch of transports that can carry 3-4k troops, can fit a small regiment fine and just issue more for bigger ones

considering company sizes are surpisingly standardised in regiments, company sized landing craft are a lot easier to define

[gaunt lily]

the pages before the Imperial guard landings covered the Raptors SM chapter conducting a raid to neutralise the planetary defence missile silo precisely because it posed such a big risk for the transports which if lost could severely cripple the invasion before it really began

[storm jungle]

God I miss Imperial Armor

literally covering the most pointless details like its some real life invasion is peak

[gaunt lily]

they read like history books, its great

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats all thanks to Alan Bligh

once he died that entire wing of Forgeworld went with him

sucks man

[gaunt lily]

very tragic loss

[storm jungle]

yeah you can still see its effects today on modern HH

The new non-black book stuff just has zero visuals, lore or cool stuff in them

[gaunt lily]

he and the forgeworld team had such a nice creative direction

[storm jungle]

Genuinely

[arctic talon]

Bligh’s imperial armor stuff is the best of the lot

My only regret regarding anything he’s done is he never finished his final one

Oh also weirdly tall people ig

[storm jungle]

Fires of Cyraxus, sigh

[arctic talon]

Bligh likes tall people

lol

[storm jungle]

the fact that people still talk about shit like Vraks goes to show how legendary it is imo, his work lives on as his legacy ironically lol

[arctic talon]

but yeah the only non Bligh Imperial ARmor

that imo is remotely comparable to his

[storm jungle]

what is it

[arctic talon]

the anphelion project

lol

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

I was just double checking he didn't write that one

LOL

[storm jungle]

YEA WAS GONNA SAY

I think its prob because Anph is like

REALLY REALLY basic as a concept/execution

its still great

but when you say Bligh didnt write it yeah its noticable

at the end of the day tho its imperials fucking around a small jurassic park tyranid complex

[arctic talon]

also tbh my favorite IA book in terms of the actual like

[gaunt lily]

the modelling master class books are also really good references

[arctic talon]

scenarios and gameplay is The Doom of Mymeara

[storm jungle]

Same

[storm jungle]

100%

[arctic talon]

the story of The Doom of Mymeara is cool, the missions in it for you to run are fun as well

[storm jungle]

Imperial Armor is great in the sense of reminding people that not everything in 40k is gigantic big battles.

Theres entire wars fought over dumb reasons lol

[arctic talon]

me when

*oil

Thats literally one of the imperial armour books

its about fucking Oil

its the ork one iirc

[storm jungle]

Anphelion is also funny in that regard

"Sorry Inquisitor. This entire thing was a test, die well I guess lol lmao"

"WHAT."

[arctic talon]

FUCK

[storm jungle]

That twist took me like 2-3 re-reads to get

[arctic talon]

its such a good twist

[storm jungle]

because iirc yeah the entire thing was to train/provide future material for Space Marine chapters that are expertised in fighting Nids?

[arctic talon]

bcs its really fucking funny

the entire thing was an Inqusitorial thing to funnel stuff into the Red Scorps and their own stormtrooper stuff yeah

[gaunt lily]

Cadia, Kreig and Armageddon is what people think about because theyre iconic pivotal wars, but then they assume all wars are like those when the reason theyre so iconic is that by 40k standards theyre extreme

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly

[gaunt lily]

imagine if every war was as intense as the 13th black crusade lmao

[storm jungle]

ikr

Vraks meanwhile all spawned from a dumbass cardinal lol

i told people like

"You do realise Chaos influence came WAY later right."

and they go "Wait what"

[arctic talon]

yeah no vraks starting off as normal

before slowly degenerating

is funny

I lowkey would have rather no chaos gotten involved

because it would be even funnier

[languid meadow]

Nope sorry Chaos has to be the root of every problem

that or nids

[storm jungle]

^

[gaunt lily]

i still find that blood angels chapter master nuking his home planet because it was thinking about democracy is funny as hell

[storm jungle]

Its not a root in this case but they literally take the stage and uproot the cardinal yeah

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately we must make Hector "the Aurafarmer" Rex a reality

[languid meadow]

I just want a good old fashioned civil war

is that so much to ask for

[arctic talon]

Well it wans't the source of the problem

Chaos literally Co-opted it

lol